Thanks for correcting! Yeah, that's 100% correct. I should have said NES.

No they had pay sony phillips

@@rustymixer2886 the royalties for that would have been a fraction of what they were paying Hudson. NEC signed a real bad deal with Hudson. Remember to that NEC was awash in their own patents and would have been able to negotiate more favorable terms with Sony and Phillips.

@jeremygregorio7472 yeah looking back sony was smart they owned cds, chips inside damn near every 16 bit console so they made chips cds etc developed some sega cd games learning code didnt have to pay anybody except good 3rd parties more than sega and nintendo, genius tactic

@jeremygregorio7472 Phillips drop the ball big time they co owned cds had some nintendo ip and failed with system over game fun tactic, sony did opposite

I feel hucard was nec version of sega card mark 3 knockoff

Also, can be used as a mirror

Correct. The "reflective area" I referred to in the video is the transition between the two.

@@ZygalStudios much respect to a fellow nerd! :-). I like your videos because they always teach me something. Thanks… I hope your channel grows greatly.

This is pretty much the core of it, yeah. That being said, at the time SEGA weren't exactly wrong in their assumption about Sony, prior to the actual release of the PS1 there was a fair bit of skepticism that Sony could pull the whole thing off and not end up another Phillips CD-i or 3DO.

@@seanmckelvey6618 what saved Sony is there deep pockets, longtivity and having their own manufacturing. Microsoft followed sony blueprint to create the xbox and was sucessfull.

Plus, not cheaper manufacturing cost but more storage space. Nintendo tried to utilize magnetic disk with the DD. However, the maximum storage was limited to 64 MB compare to other disk makers with larger storages disk like SyQuest, Orb, Jazz, lomega, superdisk, and Sony.

I think it's more like the winner were the memory cards, it's just now they're inside the consoles.

And cloud gaming will be where gaming goes to die

When all gaming goes to the cloud...the industry will crash and burn. The future of gaming is very bleak indeed.

I wish they opted to using magnetic disk especially magnetic optical disc or DD (with larger storage like the zip disks) which is more secure than rom carts and cds.

There were many Sega CD and Turbo CD games that would not have been possible on carts. Obviously anything with FMV or voice acting. Snatcher is a great game on both of those systems that could not have been done on carts.

@@BurritoKingdom also, added game features as well. Most of the cd games would've been short and cut down cart games with missing content. Sega dropped the ball with arcade ports to the Sega cd especially nigh striker, snk and midway arcade ports.

This isn't true at all. From FMV based games to titles with levels of scaling/rotation/sprite warping well beyond mode 7's capabilities on the Snes or the many software solutions used on the Genesis to get said effects. That also includes games that were many, many times bigger than a cart like Castlevania Rondo of Blood or any Neo Geo AES title. The advent of CD ROM technology on the 16-bit consoles was one of the most important things that happened to the industry at large. Without it Sony and Sega wouldn't have had the experience with the technology to push the 32-bit machines as they did. Those growing pains had to come somewhere which in all likelihood would mean we might even be a generation behind today.

@@Sinn0100 you need to think about the memory in the CD console. If you have a cartridge you can access the ROM so fast it's practically memory. But that ROM was very expensive. Every CD based system has a chunk of RAM that exists to replace that ROM. On the Sega CD that was 6 MB or 1.5 MB give or take. Strider with 2 MB more than that. 6 MB just wasn't enough RAM to replace the benefits of having cartridge ROM. The problem isn't just load times. You couldn't do a game like super Street fighter 2 on the Sega CD. There's a reason why the Street fighter 2 ports on the PC engine with a cartridge game and not a CD game.

@@jeremygregorio7472 Okay...you have to remember in 1989-1994 (16-bit supported CD ROM games) no console accept the Neo Geo AES could replicate the arcades of which you speak of. This was still a time when you got "like the arcades." Developers learned how to operate within these constraints while console manufacturers created ways to overcome them. This is why the Sega Saturn and Sony Playstation were able to push games as hard as they did. When memory constraints began happening in the 5th generation...Sega was prepared for it with their expansion carts. In one generation (because of the Sega CD) they were able to replicate arcade perfect ports of Neo Geo fighting games. Let's not forget that Sony was a partner with Sega in the creation of the Sega CD and they developed quite a few games for it as well. This enabled them to create a console that was solely based on 3D polygonal gaming (something that was said to be impossible by both Sega and Nintendo). That does not happen with a cart based system. Have you seen the awful N64 Final Fantasy VII tech demo? There is a reason Square jumped ship because the CD format was superior for their needs. Lastly, cart based systems were faster than their CD ROM counterparts in some aspects...not all. There is another reason Square left Nintendo for Sony. The N64 could not render the high poly count FFVII needed at a regular frame rate. The Playstation was really good at pushing massive amounts of data quite a bit faster than the N64 (despite having load times). Square not only moved Final Fantasy but every single project they were working on. That was all because Nintendo decided to go with the severely dated cartridge. Let's not forget the N64DD and 4MB expansion pack either...

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That's actually not true. Most games released today do not require an online connection to play. Case in point, I am playing Final Fantasy XVI on our PS5 and it never needs to be connected to the internet to play. We had a storm last night that knocked our wifi out and I had no issues playing at all. My fiancee was able to continue playing Front Mission 1st on our Switch without the internet as well. 99.9% of all 8th generation games are on disc and are not games as a service like Destiny. 70% of all 9th generation games feature the game on disc. Most of those can be played without updating. As a game collector I test every single game we get by turning the wifi off and installing the game. The only ones that refuse to work are those that download the entire game online and games as a service like Diablo IV. I have tested countless games using this method across the 8th generation Xbox One/One X/PS4/PSPRO/Switch and 9th generation Series X/PS5 *disc. Question- Why would you compare Destiny 2 (games as a service) to normal games?

bingo, the SPC700 (SNES's sound chip) was Sony's first entry into the console hardware market. Fun story: Ken Kutaragi (often quoted as "father of playstation") made an agreement with Nintendo for Sony to provide an advanced sound chip it before getting permission to deal with them from his boss :) The PS1 sound chip is largely an evolution of what was seen in the SNES's SPC700. Meanwhile, Nintendo just had the GPU use some of its muscle to make sound in N64, so from what understood, you kinda had to balance between good graphics or good sound. The GBA also just used its CPU (PCM) + the old 8bit GB CPU (PSG) both piping through a DAC to make sound (which is why many GBA games sound way worse than SNES). It wasn't into GCN and DS that Nintendo made proper sound chips again for their hardware. Its not like Sony was the only sound hardware vendor in town though (though Sega was pretty close with Yamaha, there were others) so really no clue why they went that route for the N64/GBA other than Nintendo being Nintendo

All about digital files and cloud technology now.

Are SD Cards not just more advanced versions of these cartridges? 🤔

@@NB-1 You are right, but I think cartridges are more convenient for extending hardware per game title without depending on expansion ports, and CD-ROMs always have to use expansion ports. My question is: Whether hardware expansion through cartridges is a reason for resistance to migration to CD-ROMs?

@@vahidheidari9616 sega was smart to add the cart slot to the Saturn for expansion purposes like memory, ram and ect. Also, ps1 could've done the same since memory card slot is in similar size as the pce rom cards. Potentially it can used expansion purpose similar to the Saturn. Ram cards was a missed opportunity for ps1 games. Plus, the n64 expansion pak was another great idea and had potential to do hardware expansion as the ps1 memory card slot.

Someone told me all about this in a dream once 😀😅 You know it's funny, the older I get the more I realize the less I know. I've been an engineer for almost a decade and have been dinking around with game development for about the same time.

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