Playstation is a winner for people who play flat screen games aswell. For VR Quest wins

Probably the most sensible thing I’ve read and helped me make up my mind to get the kids (myself) the psvr2 for Christmas.

@@thehound1359 Cool, glad i can help! Enjoy your future PSVR 2, it's bloody amazing!

@@cipri198zero Flat games look better on Quest 3 using VD, VorpX, or Steam Link

I disagree. Even if you have a PS5 that definitely doesn't make the decision obvious. The psvr plays games. That's it. The quest has ar experiences, can be used as a desktop, and can play games. Most importantly you don't have to be connected to anything. I personally have 0 interest in a headset that requires you to be plugged into something. You can use the quest in any room of your house and can take it with you anywhere. The psvr has the OLED screens which will sometimes have better colors. That's pretty much the main positive.

yep, between my PSVR2, Quest 3, and high-end VR PC, I have all my bases covered. :)

I wish I could just wirelessly' connect my Quest 3 to my PS5 instead. The Q3's sleeker slim form factor, far greater comfort when using the Elite Strap+Silicone User Interface(PSVR2 kills the bridge of my nose.), Pancake clarity, clearer peripheral vision, LARGE sweet spot, the fact that it's wireless which is an absolute game changer for stand-up VR, has ring-less controllers, better motion tracking, incredible blur-free motion clarity, a numbered IPD dial, no god rays, or OLED mura, extremely minimal glare, while also having the edge in resolution, EASILY make it the winner in my eyes, WHEN connected to a high end PC(RTX4090, and soon to be 5090 ;). PSVR2 however, has greater black levels and richer vibrant colours, eye tracking & FR for more power, superior controller haptics, and is also rocking adaptive triggers. And of course, much more power thanks to the PS5 and soon to be PS5 Pro Enhanced. This is a far more popular, practical, in and out/convenient, affordable, money making method of getting high end VR experiences. PC by comparison feels like a dead end, essentially an uuber niche ghost town that will never be anything but. Quest 3 Pro which will be landing sometime in 2025 will in fact have a micro-oled display so that solves Q3's black levels and colour issues. ;) Anyways, the PSVR2 in most ways feels like a 5+ year old outdated headset with too many blemishes that have been made more glaringly obvious after owning the Q3 since Christmas. But lets get real here for a second, PC VR is stupidly niche and will never explode. It's too expensive, confusing, anti-plug in play and can feel like a mini ritual getting a game up and running. Too many friction points. I don't even like factoring it to be honest. It's basically Stand alone Quest 3 Vs PSVR2+PS5 at this point. If only Sony or MS allowed Quest 3 to wirelessy(or wired) connect to either console for more power. :P That would be a game changer instead of being 2.5 generations behind in graphical power with every 3-year Meta Quest headset release. Because lets face it, Sony most likely will NOT give the PSVR2 the proper revision it deserves.

Exactly games are all I care about

yeah but how we can compare a device? Probably not by specs, yes. But people needs comparison to choose something

yep. I'm hoping the RE 4 remake will be available for VR soon.

Ask and you shall receive!@@turgrodan1018

@@turgrodan1018 See you in 1 week. Should be well worth the wait!

Same, I like cables too. Is consistent, no need to worry about battery life etc…

You can play all the latest resident evil games in vr re2 re3 re7 revillage re4 remake on the quest 3 with a PC aswell as a crap tone of other games especially with pray dogs unreal engine injector being able to play pretty much any unreal game but if your happy with the blurriness of the psvr2 and being stuck on a cable aswell as not as much to play then what evs floats ya boat

well, it needs both, theres no need for good software, if i cant stand certain points of the hardware.

I have both. I’ve always told people I would pay for the PSVR2 just for GT7 alone. That game and the VR Headset has changed Console Racing.

You need to get a gaming PC if you don't already own one. Quest 3 is an amazing wireless PCVR headset

Agreed! Until Quest 3 can play Gran Turismo 7 VR or similar PSVR2 wins all day over Quest 3. I haven't even seen PCVR come close to a game that looks as good and runs as smooth as GT7 on my Reverb G2 and Index with a 3080ti. PSVR2 has only been out for 8 months people! How many games have been made exclusively for the Quest 3 again? Quest 3 is using a mobile phone processor and graphics chipset...peeps forget about this and its NEVER brought up when comparing. PS5 is pretty much a super optimized gaming desktop with a 3070ti in it. PCVR can never be as optimized as a console...NEVER.

Quest 3 easily takes the crown for me, by a land slide. It's incredible. I have both, but the PSVR2 feels too cumbersome, dated in ways, I hate that it's tethered to a cable, can't stand the fresnel lenses and their tiny sweet spot(etc) and it has no VR eco system, making it feel like an isolating, niche, more shut off half baked depressing experience. Sony dropped the ball, and wasn't all in, clearly. I think Resident Evil Village and RE4 VR mode are incredible, and the headset is worth owning just for those and a few more titles like Moss Book 2 if you don't have a gaming PC, but eh. The Quest 3 on the other hand feels like one big universal collective livelier cheerful experience thanks to it's wonderful UI, game page profiles and reviews, overall presentation and it even including those incredible VR animation shorts and diaromas that are constantly being submitted by artists and animators , plus the freedom you feel from wireless portable VR is game changing(Ya, i skipped Quest 2), it's premium slim compact form factor and ring-less contorllers are fantastic as well, and the pancake lenses most importantly are amazing. the 2064x2208 + Pancake lenses clarity, Ultra smooth CRT motion, and lack of any weird OLED filter and mura make the image look that much crisp, sharper and cleaner. If only it had OLED-black levels, richer vibrant colours, the VR2's superior haptics 'and' adaptive triggers, plus eye tracking & foveated rendering for better game performance. And I've got to say, the Quest 3 makes a wonderful companion piece to the Switch OLED. That's the way I'm rolling right now. Still need to finish up RE4: VR Mode on PSVR2, and i'm sure i'll dive into Vertigo 2 at some point. I just hope Sony whips out a revision fast, because as is, PSVR2 doesn't have a chance at succeeding no matter how many heavy hitters it gets. But back to Q3, the officail Elite Strap, Silicone interface/Light shield and charging dock are all a must. I just wish i could do away with the top head strap thingy', but it's needed since the front visor is still a little on the heavy side to do being a wireless stand alone.

Fresnel lenses are nowhere near as good as pancake lenses so that alone is an absolute deal breaker. I own a Quest 2 and a PS5 so my choices are between Quest 3 or PSVR2 for my next VR headset but as PSVR2 uses Fresnel lenses like Quest 2 I doubt I'll ever get one unless it goes on a deep discount. Fresnel is last gen tech in a $500 headset.

@acurisur ya, the pancake lenses are great, just throw on headset and I never have to adjust since the sweet spot is huge, quest 3 and Asgards Wrath 2 has been the best gaming experience I have ever had.

Nobody ever points out the difference in motion between the two. PSVR2 has good motion clarity only when the VR Brightness slider dial is cranked down to zero, but then you're left with a miserably dim picture. Quest 3 by default on the other hand is brighter with even smoother motion, it's amazing. Combined with the higher resolution, zero god rays, minimal glare, no oled mura, large sweet spot and pancake clarity make it a big step above PSVR2. Resident Evil 4 on Quest 3, even without any Q3 update(They really need to bump the resolution up to 2064x2208 already) already produces a much more consistent clearer sharper image than PSVR2's RE4 VR Mode. On PSVR2, RE4 remake really suffers during many of the larger out door areas. They just don't look good, due to the resolution drop and at times, washed out HDR effect.

@@80sHolic7 That's pretty awesome to hear! I'll have to try RE4 again now I have a Quest 3

It powered by the SnapdragonXR2 Gen 2 platform. It flies along nicely.

Thank you, glad you enjoyed the video. Ya prices are sort of important! lol

Horizon most over rated stupid game

@@User_92020VR version yes this very stupid game, but not for Horizon Forbidden West it's beautiful game

And it’s amazing

It’s something else

Same here I have both also and I think the PlayStation VR2 is better for VR games because of the headset rumble and adaptive triggers and the Quest 3 is a multi media beast I use it more than I use the PSVR2 I use it more for KZfaq as I use the Quest 3 internet browser to watch my KZfaq videos as you can have it in Mixed Reality and the official KZfaq VR app doesn’t have Mixed Reality functions

Mixed reality is a gimmick. I play VR to escape the real world, don’t bring the real world to my games.

Definitely not a gimmick. Eventually you'll be able to change the textures of your walls and floors, and add objects to emulate different scenarios, like caves, forests, dungeons, horror locations, etc. It's gonna get crazy

@@darthvaderthegamecat - It's a gimmick if you play things like First Encounters - the packed in Quest 3 game. It absolutely is NOT a gimmick when you come to realise how it can be used. Let me give you some use case examples. Okay so I play Eleven Table Tennis and I am worried about my dog walking into the room, and kicking the dog by accident or stepping on her. Also in Thrill of the Fight I am worried about accidentally punching the wall/breaking my controllers. On FoVR Bowling I am worried about smacking my hand when I run up to bowl on a table near my play space. On LesMills Body Combat I am worried again about hitting objects near me. On First Person Tennis, I am worried about going to serve and hitting my ceiling. ^ I have done all these things in the past, whacked my hands into a table, nearly broke controllers by hitting a book case, hit the ceiling, bumped into my dog. ^ None of this can happen again. In Eleven Table tennis I see the table and my room, I see if the dog comes into my room or near me, the way anyone would be playing real table tennis. On the bowling I can see the bowling lane and also see my table, this gives me confidence to really run up and hurl my ten pin bowling ball, knowing exactly where the table is and isn't. On First person tennis, my ball toss/ball goes through the ceiling and as it falls back into the room I hit it, and not my ceiling lol. On LesMills and thrilll of the fight I punch the targets harder and with more accuracy, confident that I am nowhere near anything that would smash the controllers. Then there are games where I have mapped out my entire house. I have one game where I run around through the kitchen and up the stairs etc, and there are terrorist like dudes and I shoot them, but they are running around my real house and I can see everything and turn a corner and kill guys in my real environment, it's mind blowing and my whole house is the play space. I have a horror game that works the same way, that changes aspects of my real rooms and puts monsters into my house. ^ They are NOT gimmicks!!!

Same here, my psvr2 catches a lot of dirt now.

Don't man I got burned by it, there's a few great games but the lenses suck and screen is worse than quest 3

Do it! The PSVR2 is awesome!

@Jdb63 I just got it. I was not impressed by it. PSVR2 isn't as clear as Quest 3. Quest 3 is better than PSVR2 in all categories except the OLED. But, GT7 is amazing in PSVR2!

@agonyp2643 dang bro if only u saw my comment I maybe could've saved u 600 bucks

@@agonyp2643 Give it some time, I was really bummed about it at first too but you'll learn how to get the headset to sit at the sweetspot without thinking pretty fast. If you get it set up just right the clarity should be relatively close to the Quest 3 towards the center of the lenses, but with a lot brighter vibrant visuals. There's plenty of advantages it has over the Quest 3 that you'll start to notice

Sony has a great product that no other console platform has, they need to lean on it a little more. I was very disappointed that the new Astro game mentioned nothing of VR support and what is up with still not provided a way to buy th controllers separately.

right, so what I meant was, PSVR2's FOV of 110 on paper, is further enhanced by the ability to bring the visor closer to the eyes. With Quest 3, even though the FOV is 110 on paper, the facial interface is so big that it feels smaller than that. I guess that would be a good clarification to make :D

@@DiscoVRTetiana So if someone comes out with a low profile facial interface, possibly in combination with a halo head strap like the BoboVR, then this would no longer be a negative? In fact I think I've seen at least one youtuber that totally removes the facial interface when using the BoboVR M3 in mixed reality mode.

@@shuflie So, the BoboVR M3 has a limitation for adjusting lenses closer to the face. The power and audio jacks prevent the display from being moved closer. Removing the facial interface or getting a lower profile gasket will have zero effect of FOV.

Did she mention ps5 give u a bad home console with 1000 of games ?

@@Slyfox1775 1000s of $70 games, yeah. Games on Quest 3 are a lot cheaper.

😂

Might aswell buy a new one then 🤔

Limited library however there really good games

I have both and while they both have their unique benefits, I think you've made a right choice. Quest store + PCVR store will definitely give you a lot of games

Yup I miss my quest. So many good games on quest and also social apps like bigscreen

My situation exactly. There's room for both

@@FunTimes.7 no one care what your talking about so just keep your wise cracks to yourself

Well said

Do people really use mixed reality long term? wow

Firewall Ultra is a crap

Those amazing 1st party tech demos by Sony vs full AAA games such as Asgard’s wrath 2. Not to mention quest 3 has the full q2 library and all the full pcvr library as well.

@@chan13153RE8, GT7 are tech demos to you? Asgards Wrath is AA without question. But by default CAPCOM is a triple A studio. Get your facts right.

​@chan13153 tech demos? 😋 get out of here. You just named 1 game for quest (and it's not even out yet). Look at what psvr 2 has brought. Gt7, horizon, switchback, synapse, resident evil 8, resident evil 4 is coming (not the GameCube port), vertigo 2 is coming, .... No pc support, sure. But more and more pcvr devs are bringing their games over reportedly. And you need a pretty beefy pc to be able to play high end vr. For psvr 2 you just need a ps5.

@@ElephantTrap RE4vr looks good but not much else. HorizonVR is a big disappointment. On rails combat and climbing simulator, firewall ultra has auto aim and button ADS (Half assed VR game), GT7 is the best game and its a flatscreen conversion of just. a racing game. Switchback= literal on rails tech demo. Most of sony's offering has not been very good. Problem is sony doesnt know how to make a good VR game. Most of there offering is very limiting in some degree when it comes to controls which ruin the experience. HorizonVR is literally the est example. Great graphics, but combat being on rails totally ruins it.

You mean using a computer many people already have.

@@rickz7461 most people don’t have a gaming pc which will run 1,000-1500 at least. Regardless, it has to be figured into total cost just like a ps5 has to be figured into cost which is half the cost of a gaming pc. Also, with a console there is no configuration or compatibility issues it is already optimized. I have many friends who have pc and even though graphics are excellent they have had issues where they have had to take time to optimize and using airlink or virtual desktop can take a bit of manual optimization. If you enjoy tinkering with settings to get that optimal settings then thats great but a lot of people just want to turn on their headset and play. To each their own and if you have the time and a pc to play vr then thats great and i am sure its amazing. Not to mention mods which add to the experience.However, for a fair comparison you have to factor in the additional cost and possible extra setup time. Every way you play vr has its pros and cons and whichever works best for you is great.

Or using a ps5 many people already have😉

you dont need a 1500+ computer to play vr its not 2015 anymore

@@Blobby192 What's the most affordable GPU that can run VR?

Or a quest 3 with a pc....you get even a super badass gaming machine

"DoNt fOrgEt" with a pc youll get much better graphics and an even better bad ass system for 2d gaming.. *yawn*

There are not enough, yes. But also we can add that GT7 and RE8\RE4 remakes are just ports. Without proper VR treatment. May be RE8 is closest to true VR game, and even then there's strange cutscenes with floating hands

You make good points, but, to me, and this is just my opinion,@@MrKinein, but it's actually irrelevant whether GT7 especially is a port or not. What matters is the end result, and for me the end result is that GT7 is the best VR driving experience that currently exists.

@@PeteOlivaGlad for you. I think with wheel it is an awesome game! Can you say what you like there's the most? I have the game and the headset but never sucked in

I can't see screen door effect on any of them...

then you eighter dont know what to look for, or your visus is not as good as mine. i heard people say the same thing about the index, which i really cant understand because its so obvious@@MrKinein

@@dharkbizkitMay be I don't know what to look for. I notice mura though, and it's kinda distracting.

Strangely enough the lenses of the Quest 3 caused me to notice the screen door effect MORE. Fresnels tend to mute the effect for me.

And re8 and upcoming re4

PSVR2 is killing it with game titles

And the walking dead saints and sinners 1 and 2 the best versions are on psvr2

@@chrisrogers548 I just picked up chapter 2 earlier this week! It’s incredible!

Song in the smoke best version is on psvr 2, no man's sky best version on psvr 2, switchback, synapse, horizon (excellent game for newcomers to vr), ....

I’m sure many questers share your feeling! Quest 3 is so hard not to love

Just plug in a USB cable

META stopped requiring you to link a FB account end of last year. This isn’t an issue.

@@BossMan302 Great, doesn't change the fact that anyone can report you as underaged and lock your account in VR... and meta won't help you unless your solution fits into their automated resolution steps. I've learned how to work with the VR now, it's all good.

And it feels trash

I never make it a habbit so I do not notice it. It always awesome thing for me, the haptics. However I use Quest 3 more often

Maybe with a Rift S. Quest 3 eats a slow GPU up not being a native headset. You will have a lot of stuttering and artifacts.

You excluded Quest 3 PCVR options. Yet OLED screen and better haptics are nice adition, yeah.

I wouldn't mind the cable if the PSVR2 mura and crappy fresnel lenses were fixed. Oh, and the lack of any off-ear audio is just ridiculous.

Disagree. Logically nobody buys a 800p oled screen over a 1080p lcd (this comparison is a little tame compared to fresnel and pancake lenses thus strengthens my point) Therefore color contrast shouldn't take precedence over edge to edge clarity. Being tied to 2 platforms not only is good for diverse library and titles but ensures the device is futureproof, after it's lifespan games will not be compatible to the psvr2 but can't say the same for the MQ3. PS Subscription for online play is also a detriment to longevity and cost after it's lifespan servers are gonna close. you can't say the same for pcvr/quest platform. Speaking from experience as a ps4 psvr1 owner my cv1 rift is more relevant.

Same, I own both as well. Wouldn’t have it any other way.

💯. I have both and love both, but the GAMING experience on PSVR2 is a level above. The Q3 is great for social games, watching movies, doing work, and playing a few exclusives

@@Jdb63 it's only "a lvl above" to you because you dont do pcvr assetto corsa mods/forza horizon/DCS/Ms flight sim in vr.

@@Vimm57 We're talking about Quest 3 vs PSVR2 here, not $1500 PCs, which I do have for the record.

Yes. via PCVR (steam link or air link)

@@mkc11267 Thanks! I'm an Serries X Gamer, but might have to get a Quest 3 then! :)

You can buy different headstraps and faceplates to eliminate that.

@@Watchmyarm Sure, but at the moment, all I see is cheap junk. Meta's own battery strap was recalled because it doesn't work, and even the well-reviewed Bobo strap has problems with a buzzing battery (probably because they didn't engineer it correctly). They may be a small improvement, but it's really just putting lipstick on a pig.

They have a headstrap called Aubika which is super comfortable ......I would look at other straps to be honest ​@@TheExtraTerrestrial

but there are a lot more sides to this story really, not only the ecosystem one.

Apparently, Sony just announced they're working on PC support for the PSVR2.

Bigscreen Beyond may be what you are looking for? Near sunglasses size and Micro-oled screen, but costly. Would love to demo one but since they are custom facial inteface might be difficult.

Yeah this changes things because now PSVR2 can not only give all the Playstation experiences but all that PC stuff That Quest can play as well. Hearing that it made me check PSVR2 again and it seems right now is on sale so I jumped on it. Being able to experience those great Playstation titles and at the same time play Half-life Alyx on it is just amazing. The cables are still an issue though but sorry to say the 2hours at best Quest manages are not something that makes me see it as true wireless.

Horizon is trash, il sell it to you for $4

@@User_92020 you'll see me your Playstation account for $4? What other games on it?

@@User_92020 kinda irrelevant to my OP but ok

I think you can but it just looks like you have big screen in front of you instead of looking like you are in the game.

@@SIPEROTHthat’s why it’s called a flatscreen

@@MrKinein No, I really like the G2. It's quite comfy, the picture quality is good and the sound solution is really good either. It has two not that good sides though. First the Controller tracking and second the WMR software. It's not that bad that I couldn't live with it though. The Quest 2 I only use in standalone mode. Some PCVR games I can play with it. Some others like Stormland look really bad because of compression. Eventually I'll buy a Quest3 but for now I'm happy with the Headsets I have. PSVR2 is my main headset right now though.

@@MartinSchmuckVRNice! I like PSVR 2 but I am shocked of the prices for a game, it's too much for me. Steam is better

@@MrKinein the prices are higher. That's true. I don't buy the most PS5 or PSVR2 games directly at release though. Normaly there are good offers when the games go on sale after few month. Compared to a gaming PC you save a lot of money on the hardware though. My gaming PC cost about 5 times as much as my Playstation.

NMS though was looking like shit for a long time in PSVR2 before it was patched out. And there are some games that caught same things, probably most of the games needs foveated rendering to be on par with PCVR. I think having both headsets is an overkill (I have both by the way). And also I think Quest 2.5 will not be the thing as you think. I bet it will be MXR first, and will not have pancake lenses. For you probably quest 2.5 or quest 3 will be overkill, if you want to upgrade in a year, may be you should consider new PCVR native headset

Thank you 😜

That was really a C+ level game on the whole, but I will also say they did so well creating an environment, I never forgot it. It would be something to walk through those forests in VR.

Definitely not c+ for me, more like b+

What kind of games are you playing? And do you play any competitive games? Or just solo type stuff?

If gaming is feeling a bit tired for you, VR will definitely spice things up.

@@TroublezAhead00 mostly solo games! Shooters especially!

30% off any game shows up like one a month for me on meta

Two things having pros and cons is exactly why you compare them. What are you talking about? You want to only compare things that are exactly the same? lol

@@coltynstone-lamontagne and for Playstation store it can be 50%, 75% or sometimes even higher. It depends on how old is the game in store. Quest store is way greedier with thier sales. I think 30% is almost nothing. However this thing works only for old titles.

What do you think of the Beyond?

@@Chadman03elantra It's great! It's got a micro-OLED display and is super light. It makes VR a totally different experience than any of the other headsets because you don't feel any weight shifting around on your head and can move it around naturally - There's nothing else like it. The Crystal has better lenses and a little bit higher resolution but the Beyond is really stunning when you get in night time or high shadow environments...I use it almost exclusively now.

You have to try pancake lenses to see the difference

​@@BadHostilePancake lenses are nice, but in my point of view not necessary to have a good a experience. But for beginners the large sweetspot is surely a benefit.

I dont have any problems with my psvr 2 it isn't blurry or anything the clarity is excrllent

Excellent even

More an issue of horrendously small sweet spot. Picture is clear in center of vision, with headset perfectly positioned. Move the headset 5mm out of position, and image is horrible. Quest 3 doesn't have that problem.

you don't need to be directly in front of your tv, but probably in 3 meters.

@@MrKinein but that is space I don't have. I have a table and a sofa in front of the TV.

@@Johanneslol11 Then yeah, no chance for PSVR2 sadly! Though I'm glad you are enjoying Quest 3. Why you watch youtube on it? is it more convenient? I thought it is uncomfortable for this interactions...

PSVR2 can connect with PC now so it will be interesting to see how things develop.

I'll get a Quest 4 if it can match my PSVR 1 graphically without the need to buy a $1K+ PC.....til then I'll stick with Sony