Disgusting Dual-Pancake Locomotive from eBay - Will it Run?

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SMT Mainline

SMT Mainline

6 ай бұрын

I was browsing eBay and I found an old project locomotive someone had clearly put some effort into. It didn't appear to be in great shape so not many people showed up to the auction and I was able to get the loco for under $10.
After unboxing it, it was clear just how many changes had been made to the loco. It seems like someone combine two mid 80s pancake drives to up the pulling capacity. The wiring was a mess and one of the motors wasn't able to get power anymore.
This is far from the most tricky repair I've done but it did need some TLC to get it running again.

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@Jaxson-to3tb
@Jaxson-to3tb 6 ай бұрын
You could probably send Harrison a destroyed loco, with only a speck of it remaining, and he’d manage to repair it. Amazing work as usual.
@vincentandhimi6990
@vincentandhimi6990 6 ай бұрын
One second it's parts next second it's running
@garysprandel1817
@garysprandel1817 6 ай бұрын
He literally took the lemons of some ( IIRC) Tyco E7s that were smashed to bits in the post and Frankensteined into an absurdly long but functional locomotive.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 6 ай бұрын
Thanks. I have been defeated by a few but I try my best.
@eugenb.8448
@eugenb.8448 6 ай бұрын
@@SMTMainlineIs the PO Box you provided in a video a few years back still the right one? I’d like to donate a bunch of model train stuff I have.
@Benthetrainkid
@Benthetrainkid 6 ай бұрын
They were F7s though@@garysprandel1817
@Different_Letter9835
@Different_Letter9835 6 ай бұрын
It even has realistic smoke effects! Truly one of the most high quality locomotives ever featured on this channel. :P
@maxdragon91
@maxdragon91 6 ай бұрын
The patina on that locomotive would make a great diorama of an old siding with overgrown foliage.
@josephbennett3482
@josephbennett3482 6 ай бұрын
Man right out of the box the locomotive looked pretty cool , the rusty weathered appearance makes it look like it would be a great industrial yard loco such as a steel mill unit or it could even sit idle on a siding with a bunch of scrap and a run down structure , the possibilities are absolutely endless for that beauty.
@tomrogers9467
@tomrogers9467 5 ай бұрын
Mad Max hits the rails!
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe 6 ай бұрын
For a moment there I was afraid one of the motors had the same problem as one of my old Bachmann pancake motors! It ignited itself and burned out in the most literal sense.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 6 ай бұрын
I thought that might have happened for a moment as well. In retrospect, I think one of the pickup wires was shorted badly while it was drifting and started to burn up under 4 amps of power.
@armandoperez7967
@armandoperez7967 6 ай бұрын
Those motors sure do look like the motors found on Bachmann’s train set locomotives. I had a Bachmann F40 and 3 passenger cars painted for Amtrak and the locomotive had one motor that looked exactly like the motors on the FA. The F40 only had the front truck powered. The rear truck was for electrical pickup only. Whoever worked on the FA before must have had a spare locomotive and used another motored truck for the rear. I don’t know if Bachmann still offers these kinds of engines? I know they had higher quality engines with a central motor and all wheel drive but these cost more. Now they have engines with good detail and can motors and even sound.
@harperlarry49
@harperlarry49 6 ай бұрын
The odd ball locomotives always seem to be the most interesting and fun. The dual motors is really interesting/odd. Nice work.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 6 ай бұрын
They are one of a kind. I like how there is only one of each and you never know what you might get.
@kcgrailgilbert8466
@kcgrailgilbert8466 6 ай бұрын
@@SMTMainline wat is that redes thing that u use on ur metal wheels
@casstelles
@casstelles 6 ай бұрын
When the frame was spiced, I bet that they used two Bachmann F9A rear halves to make the frame. This would explain the pancake motors.
@Kanikalion
@Kanikalion 6 ай бұрын
When you pulled that thing open and the Frankenstein was laid bare for all to see... I really did not expect this thing to come back to life, much less come back to life with a vengeance. Well done.
@alanwbelcher
@alanwbelcher 6 ай бұрын
Wow!! Nice save there, SMT! And it even does stunts and has a smoke unit. Plenty of room in there for a sound decoder as well. It looks like someone did a Frankenstein with 2 F-7s. That's an Alco, which would have different trucks; those are EMD style. The stripes on the front look like BN.
@lotsatrains
@lotsatrains 6 ай бұрын
I like it 👍 looks like a rusty old locomotive that’s been sitting in the train yard for many years 😎
@jeffreyeash9720
@jeffreyeash9720 6 ай бұрын
I'm amazed you can get it all put back together another successful operation from Dr Train I enjoy seeing you fix all these engines
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 6 ай бұрын
DUEL pancake motors eh? As in the title. If you can stop the motors fighting each other you might then have a DUAL drive locomotive. LOL. Agree with you about the Athearn alternative. Even in Australia, the blue box Athearns were such good value it amazed me that people sometimes paid extra for the pancake and traction tyre alternatives. Even saving a few bucks for those inferior designd seems false economy in the long term. Just looked at your Life Like Tea Kettle repair. A much superior video than todays Sams Train approah to one he just posted. Could not get it running but his fans are paying over $100 for it on a well known auction site.
@avlisk
@avlisk 6 ай бұрын
The Athearn Blue Box locos are the cockroaches of HO locos. . .nothing can kill them and they will run forever. There's a reason so many designs fell by the wayside and the basic Athearn one lives on today in most new locos. PS Duel is a really fun Spielberg movie from the start of his career. Would make a good modeling project, too.
@paulbervid1610
@paulbervid1610 6 ай бұрын
Outstanding work as always Harrison.
@johnellick7362
@johnellick7362 6 ай бұрын
I look forward to watching you work you magic with those half wrecked locomotives. You do great work. Even at my age I've learned a great deal from watching your repair videos.
@gabemiller4882
@gabemiller4882 6 ай бұрын
Another great restoration on this train engine, Harrison 😊👍👍👍! Keep up the great work! I love it how you fix these diesels and steam locomotive ! 😊😊 Wow , great job , SMT !!
@CommanderDuck-zn8ro
@CommanderDuck-zn8ro 4 ай бұрын
Your repairing videos are really cool, but I can not get my eyes off that amazing setup. Truly a fascinating and realistic scene.
@oskarvalance3041
@oskarvalance3041 6 ай бұрын
Will it run again. That's the million-dollar question. I see these old locos and think no way. But you somehow bring back to life. Very cool. 😎 From Texas
@radarthefox508
@radarthefox508 6 ай бұрын
I've never seen you ever fail to repair any locomotives! its quite amazing really.
@newhavennscale
@newhavennscale 6 ай бұрын
Nice save, SMT! I always enjoy watching you work your magic. Happy Holidays!
@cmdrflake
@cmdrflake 6 ай бұрын
This creature deserves the name Guy Fawkes!
@tomseaman1108
@tomseaman1108 6 ай бұрын
You always amaze me with your talent to repair what many of us would simply scrap!
@Trains-stuff
@Trains-stuff 6 ай бұрын
It’s amazing how you can have something that is basically not running and get it up and going I always love watching your videos When I saw the engine smoking I thought that it was going to blow up 😂 keep up the great work
@whip-its_dad4239
@whip-its_dad4239 6 ай бұрын
The " stunts ' remark gave me a good , thank you . Crazy little engine that you got going .Good work .
@johncloar1692
@johncloar1692 6 ай бұрын
Great turn out for what it is. You done well on this on Harrison. Thanks for taking us a long on this adventure.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 6 ай бұрын
Thanks
@alcopower5710
@alcopower5710 6 ай бұрын
Well done Harrison 👍 you never fail to amaze me with your repair skills
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 6 ай бұрын
Thanks. This reminded me a bit of that dual motor tyco project I saw on your channel a while back.
@ginaklein8964
@ginaklein8964 6 ай бұрын
Very fun video, and still learning from your ability to bring a recked locomotive back to life!!!!!
@thythethy9590
@thythethy9590 6 ай бұрын
Hey Man! Been A While Since I've Checked Out Your Channel, Man It's Grown A lot, Super Duper Proud Of You, keep it up! God bless
@user-yw5ke8cg6c
@user-yw5ke8cg6c 6 ай бұрын
For a second, I was worried this would be the one you couldn't fix. great work Harrison.
@williamsquires3070
@williamsquires3070 6 ай бұрын
I’ll bet someone took two Tyco/Mantua EMD F7s and cut off and combined the front halves (which would explain the incorrect Bloomberg-M/B truck side frames) together, then found an Alco FA body shell to put on it. At least this way, it gives you all-wheel electrical pickup and all the wheels are driven. 😊
@ModelRailwayFan38
@ModelRailwayFan38 6 ай бұрын
13:06 I think Hornby need to introduce this locomotive into their range and make it their “Smokey Joe” 😂
@betsymani2734
@betsymani2734 6 ай бұрын
Harrison is magic with these old locos! He can make any locomotive run if he wants to!
@andrewferguson5653
@andrewferguson5653 6 ай бұрын
Another great restoration, SMT! I agree with you, that wiring was a mess, and what caused the smoke? I was afraid one motor had burned out.
@jimwinchester339
@jimwinchester339 5 ай бұрын
Wow - you really know what you're doing. Kudos and Godspeed.
@keepamericayisraelgreat5708
@keepamericayisraelgreat5708 6 ай бұрын
That was pretty great watching you put back the train together.
@ernesttucker3157
@ernesttucker3157 4 ай бұрын
I couldn't tell if that frame is plastic or metal. Many years ago I belonged to an "O" gage club. A number of our locomotives were originally "O 27" with the center rail power pickup and ran on AC. I did a lot of conversations of those that were actually to scale to "O" gage, two rail DC. Some of these had twin motors. To do this conversion required cutting the frame between the motors. I then inserted a thin phenolic insulating spacer the same thickness of the material that was lost in the cutting. I then used another phenolic block that bridged between the two sections and very carefully screwed it into place, thereby rendering the frame solid again and using a Dremal and a very fine grinding wheel flushed the screw ends with the frame. Note: I drilled and tapped holes in the frame for the screws. The next phase was to remove the drivers and trucks. I then took the wheels from one side and put them on a jewelers lathe and turned the flanges to scale. Then I drilled out the centers of one side and inserted a phenolic plug. Then I knurled the axels. I then drilled out the phenolic to a very tight interference fit and pressed them on to the appropriate side of the truck or axels. Now comes the challenge of the electric rewire. The motors were originally AC so I had to remove the original direction control and wired the motors in parallel where the + and - are attached to the appropriate half of the frame. This was before DCC so all control was track based. So to get appropriate light response diodes were required. But when completed they ran very smoothly and actually ran cooler than the AC.
@antonbruce1241
@antonbruce1241 6 ай бұрын
Harrison, is there any mostly destroyed locomotive you CAN'T fix???? You skills are EXTREMELY IMPRESSIVE!!!
@animalyze7120
@animalyze7120 5 ай бұрын
I've done the double pancake setup on quite a few engines and they always end up working, running flawlessly. Great pulling power especially for brass wheels. I never cut one in half for whatever reason they did but it seems to work lol. Definitely would have purple bathed that unit and repainted it completely. Great video!
@TheKurtsPlaceChannel
@TheKurtsPlaceChannel 6 ай бұрын
Very nice video. Thanks for posting this.
@jasonw2671
@jasonw2671 6 ай бұрын
I’ve never seen a HO scale Alco with scale smoke! lol. Great video as always.
@christopherfriedberg6597
@christopherfriedberg6597 6 ай бұрын
That's really neat ! Excellent repair too !
@w.rustylane5650
@w.rustylane5650 6 ай бұрын
Serenity! We have a runner and a good one at that! Cheers from eastern TN
@roberthubal6278
@roberthubal6278 5 ай бұрын
Not only fun to watch. But excellent maintenance workmanship. Throughly enjoyable ‼️
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Bryson-iy7mg
@Bryson-iy7mg 6 ай бұрын
That’s a nice locomotive and good job working on it
@jacobmaurin7549
@jacobmaurin7549 6 ай бұрын
The red light in the cab as well as the rust makes it look like a ghost train.
@alberthofer679
@alberthofer679 6 ай бұрын
Good job Harrison, You could always take a small aluminum tube the size of your headlight bulb , cut it to fit under the hood up to the headlight, to redirect the headlight so the cab won't be lit up. I used to do this with all my blue box locos and white shell FAs also . Usually the hobby store or hardware store has them for a couple bucks. Use hot glue or Duco cement works great holding them in . Hope this helps.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the idea. It would be good if I could attach the lamp to something so it would quit making uneven light.
@alberthofer679
@alberthofer679 6 ай бұрын
@@SMTMainline I agree... Give it a whirl
@flintersroo4386
@flintersroo4386 6 ай бұрын
I've enjoyed watching you go from an optomistic and hopeful kid full of ignorance and dreams, with nobody telling you that you can't do something. You've made what some adults called mistakes, but your made them learning adventures instead. New skills, new experiences, and much more confidence. You've grown and expanded, and that's what I love about this hobby. You aren't just growing your empire, you're growing as a person. And you share your experiences here online where everyone can benefit. Well done!
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 6 ай бұрын
That's just it. In my older videos it took me a lot longer to figure out problems but trial and error teaches you a lot. I still make mistakes and am learning but things have advanced.
@astein7035
@astein7035 5 ай бұрын
A rare and dying breed of people who love a challenge. I have a LOT of trains I bought on eBay. Got a great deal. I think there were 7 engines of which 3 weren’t working. I was able to fix 2 of the engines. About 30 pieces of track and 2 transformers along with 15 rail cars. NAVY technical training skills sure helped. Great video!
@swiv99
@swiv99 2 ай бұрын
the train whisperer, another successful repair....weathering looks great on it too.
@YourLocalRailfan
@YourLocalRailfan 6 ай бұрын
That thing really looks like it’s seen better days, congrats on 100k as well!
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@YourLocalRailfan
@YourLocalRailfan 6 ай бұрын
@@SMTMainline no problem! I’ve got a 462 pacific much like you repaired 2 years ago coming soon!
@garyrendano4717
@garyrendano4717 6 ай бұрын
pretty cool. glad u got it working :)
@user-MotoTrains1974
@user-MotoTrains1974 6 ай бұрын
Very well done SMT
@RustburgMike
@RustburgMike 6 ай бұрын
Harrison, bringing another Loco back from the dead.
@MozanaRN
@MozanaRN 6 ай бұрын
I would name this locomotive the Smoking Alco! Excellent job getting the ole girl running again.
@MiyuGreer
@MiyuGreer 6 ай бұрын
That loco looks like from some old thriller movie. It looks old and nasty but drives like from hell. It immediately reminded me of truck from the movie Duel (1971).
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 6 ай бұрын
That's so true. The black rusted paint with a frosted windshield has a lot in common with how they made the truck look.
@randallellison6421
@randallellison6421 6 ай бұрын
Pretty sporty locomotive Harrison!
@Lewman211
@Lewman211 6 ай бұрын
That's really not a bad looking locomotive! 🙂
@chrissharp5073
@chrissharp5073 6 ай бұрын
Anothe one retrieved from the great scrapyard in the bin! Great job on this Frankenstein model loco. Your magic touch comes to the fore again. Well done. But when does it go off to the paint shop!!!
@MattKonsol
@MattKonsol 6 ай бұрын
Very amazing Restoration on this alco fa diesel harrison even it had alittle smoke show earlier with the insulation while running it. A model power fa on a bachmann chassis. Very unusual.
@dbtech7914
@dbtech7914 6 ай бұрын
Good job, impressive pulling power for what it is.
@ronaldrondeau7870
@ronaldrondeau7870 6 ай бұрын
Well Harrisson you did it again great runner.
@mr-meek
@mr-meek 6 ай бұрын
12:54 MULTI TRACK DRIFTING!
@Scagguy4014
@Scagguy4014 6 ай бұрын
Every video thumbnail I see I always think “it most likely will run” Then scroll past . Then I think “but what if it doesn’t” Then click the video
@chanwittwer4925
@chanwittwer4925 6 ай бұрын
Hi there, I just stumbled onto your channel, I wanna tell you I find everything interesting 😊
@dundasjunctionmodelr.r-jam8267
@dundasjunctionmodelr.r-jam8267 6 ай бұрын
Harrison notch 8 , cool runner speed record coming
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 6 ай бұрын
It's pretty quick
@bernardbyrd8024
@bernardbyrd8024 6 ай бұрын
I liked the video .loved the rachet comment you were stuntin thanks made my day bro great content Im hooked
@sams2960
@sams2960 6 ай бұрын
free smoke effects 🤣 You are a magician!
@user-qu2dj2ne1l
@user-qu2dj2ne1l 6 ай бұрын
WOW the time you restored locomotive is impresssive
@garysprandel1817
@garysprandel1817 6 ай бұрын
Oh oh you let the magic smoke out. Thought it was odd as the Model Power and IIRC Cox or Lionel HO FA's had the ARR type B trucks not the Blomberg and the MP had a fairly sizable can motor. That frame just struck me as some sort of MacGyvered running gear under a desired shell.
@bigrenegade7121
@bigrenegade7121 6 ай бұрын
Harrison, I know the reason for the wire burning up. Remember this is a dual engine so the wheels on both ends are contact points. When the train jumped the track the back truck landed on the rail next to it. This caused a the wires to short out across the rack lines. You continue to make it move maintained this short till the wires overheated and caught fire. You will have to be careful with running this one at speed in the future for this very reason. A very simple fix would be to put diodes in line with each wire. This will stop the wrong polarity from back feeding down the wire.
@kreika294
@kreika294 6 ай бұрын
Looks like the Marlboro man had one last smoke! 🤣😜
@normancoreyBuildingTrains
@normancoreyBuildingTrains 6 ай бұрын
Great job
@williammcgeehan3424
@williammcgeehan3424 6 ай бұрын
Those stripes on the front mean Burlington Northern.
@bz3020
@bz3020 6 ай бұрын
Nice save,with that red cab light maybe it's supposed to be an evil Halloween engine
@irenecraggs6123
@irenecraggs6123 6 ай бұрын
nice job SMT now you have a custom loco👍
@RaccoonOrSmthin
@RaccoonOrSmthin 6 ай бұрын
I like the look of it, It looks like it's a ghost engine that has been left in a junkyard for years.
@blablametalhead
@blablametalhead 4 ай бұрын
Got a great laugh outta the stunts...... Never seen that on my layout ..... pretty awesome Entertaining as always thanks
@kaikuklik9748
@kaikuklik9748 6 ай бұрын
Nice job 👍🏻 That nasty thing looks a little bit like the F-Unit from "Runaway Train" 😎
@TonyLasagna
@TonyLasagna 6 ай бұрын
Awesome vidya. As always. Not a bad hauler for $10!
@billmoran3812
@billmoran3812 5 ай бұрын
A rusty, crusty FA-1 that runs- a little. Pretty realistic I’d say. I played with the full scale ones, same conditions just big and heavy.
@ceijohn1107
@ceijohn1107 5 ай бұрын
Just shows some good maintenance and a little love can make even a POS run. Good job!
@ronaldstokes4841
@ronaldstokes4841 5 ай бұрын
I'm amazed, Brother... couldn' take my eyes off your work. She's goin' around with power, pullin' freight. One thing... treat 'er right, this beauty needs a paint job. Looks like an old sixties yard switcher with mud-covered livery. Put some lipstick on 'er.
@phidias523
@phidias523 6 ай бұрын
"Roommates with the Marlboro man"... LOLOL!!!
@AstroKnight187
@AstroKnight187 18 күн бұрын
It looks kinda cool! The rust make sure it look like it's seen many better days
@josephscarfo5972
@josephscarfo5972 6 ай бұрын
Hey Harrison, You did an Incredible job Restoring that ALCO FA-1. The Trucks on that Locomotive are EMD Trucks, Not ALCo Trucks. Okay, The Problem with the Smoking Engine is: The Wiring that came with the Locomotive are way too Thin! You have to Solder much of a heavy gauges Wiring. That will solve your problems. 🚂🚂📷🎥
@crsrdash-840b5
@crsrdash-840b5 6 ай бұрын
Great work. Shall we call this a rebuilt model of FA2-DM. Assign it to excursion or switching duties.
@mercuryoak2
@mercuryoak2 6 ай бұрын
It makes you wonder why they used a model power type locomotive and then put some god-awful bachmann drive system in it. You did good at the restoring it. Basically this locomotive looks to be through hell and back . I noticed when you said it might have been around a smoker the way that it smells. It seems while running it wanted to have one last smoke itself. Lol
@michaellindsey8769
@michaellindsey8769 6 ай бұрын
Beautiful job good video
@chrisdaniell2990
@chrisdaniell2990 6 ай бұрын
Would some OxGard in around the centre hole be just as good as the Labelle oil? (I think so)
@robertmunguia6172
@robertmunguia6172 6 ай бұрын
Another job well done 👏 but that wire was a mess
@zachr.8786
@zachr.8786 6 ай бұрын
Good old Dual Torque motors haha she's Moving!
@cjdavis2684
@cjdavis2684 6 ай бұрын
Kind of got worried there a minute or two when the smoke started rolling out. Glad you got that old engine working. Just please consider giving the poor thing a new paint job as it deserves it. lol
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 6 ай бұрын
I think one of the pick up wires shorted badly while it was drifting. I'm glad it was that and not the motor.
@4everdc302
@4everdc302 6 ай бұрын
I've been known to weather a little heavy,but lol.. It's a Mad Max Alco. It's new name. Rachet chapter of the SMT manual.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 6 ай бұрын
Yep, they didn't hold back with making it look rough.
@popcat2214
@popcat2214 6 ай бұрын
It looks like me on Monday mornings😂
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 6 ай бұрын
Oof
@beacash7983
@beacash7983 6 ай бұрын
611 PLEEAASSEE!!!!
@SebastianMerzke
@SebastianMerzke 20 күн бұрын
why does it give me vibes of the ghost truck from the Dual movie, at that high of speed around the corner of the layout near that one house, it looks like it'll come off the rails and demolish the house like you're filming a derailment crash scene in a movie
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 19 күн бұрын
I can see the similarities with the speed and condition of the locomotive.
@16jan1986
@16jan1986 6 ай бұрын
That is beautiful weathering....very popular in Europe...the rad rod of model railroading
@Santaanacanyon
@Santaanacanyon 6 ай бұрын
Harris, have you made any vids on how to swap the trucks on passenger coaches? With brands like ConCor, I cannot for the life of me figure out how to remove the trucks from the bodies.
@chrisgurney2467
@chrisgurney2467 6 ай бұрын
Wouldn't be a proper Alco without a cloud of smoke 😂
@kcgrailgilbert8466
@kcgrailgilbert8466 6 ай бұрын
SMTmain line wat that redes thing u use too clean the metal wheels wit
@MK-of7qw
@MK-of7qw 6 ай бұрын
This Franken-loco is amazing.
How to bring sweets anywhere 😋🍰🍫
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