He can get that arrogant & having Calvinist ears, you don’t hear what’s correct anyway!

It sure will make for a very interesting debate come March.

@jeremiahharris5002 I'm just hoping white actually responds with some substance. If not it'll just be a frustrating waste of time I feel.

God wants all men to be saved first Timothy 2:4, second peter 3:9! God, predestines groups or plurals only, never individuals. Ephesians 1 -2 points: “ us and we” are pre-destined never “you and I“! And 11 times in 11 verses from 3-14 you have to remain “in Christ“ (in him, in whom) to be predestined! Romans 9:1-3 Paul is talking about the nation of Israel, all the way to the end of chapter 11 ! So, “Jacob, I loved, Esau I hated“ is genesis 25:23 “there are two nations in your womb“! It’s talking about ‘Nations,’ not individuals in the whole context of those three chapters! Stop taking it out of context, along with Ephesians 1! Of course, we have the story of Jacob and Esau and how Esau despised his birthright ! So God truly does love all people, he truly did make hell for the devil and his angels just as Matthew 25:41 says ! Even the 42 youths, mauled by the 2 bears, was because they mocked Elijah‘s rapture, a.k.a. the resurrection , they were saying “go on up Baldy “ ; and ALL their prophets just recently Were killed by Elijah and they should’ve known to stop worshiping Baal! Bethel was the headquarters of Baal worship, where this took place! 490 priests got killed by Elijah, There was no Priests around,; should’ve been a gigantic clue. So God never arbitrarily and haphazardly deals with any human being ! His love cannot be measured says Romans 8! But if you’re a Calvinist, it’s “his love cannot be measured , (Wink, wink)“! Come out of the false belief system of Calvinism ! Now you have no excuse because you cannot out argue this, let’s hear you try! Read Matthew 25 the parable of the Calvinists, a.k.a. talents ! Where the guy buried his talent calling God,- somebody who doesn’t judge rightly & he was thrown into hell as a result! He had the wrong view of God, & So Will a Calvinist, they’ll have a callous view of God & The love of Christs sacrificial death on the cross!

Very very well said BROTHER. Brilliant!

@@robertrodrigues7319 Study the, eloquent & ineloquent word of God . Heaven and earth will pass away, but God‘s word will never pass away, it’s eternal! Jesus is eternal, Jesus is the word of God!

Sounds a little narcissistic on James White's part.

@@jjphank Yea it’s pretty bad when the doctrine you believe leaves no other option than to believe that God is the author of sin! There is no Gospel under Calvinism. If you are of the elect than you were never in danger of going to hell. If you are not of the elect you never had a Savior, and there is no good news. We read the Gospel in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

Yes, every conversation with a Calvinist eventually ends with "you don't understand Calvinism" and the misapplied accusation, "Who are you, oh man, to question God?"... When it is not God, but Calvinism in question. 🤔 But this has always been true of Calvinism. Spurgeon's famous quote, “Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else.” covers it. The implication is that unless you are preaching Calvinism, you are not preaching the Gospel. The fact is a Calvinist cannot critically consider their theology has any chance of being incorrect. They are too emotionally and ideologically committed to it and the thought they might be wrong is too painful. They allow themselves to become much more comfortable with the "tension" and "mystery" it brings them, and the ability to resign themselves to saying "I have nothing to do with it, it's all God"... A perfect 'Rocking Chair' religion, IMO.🤷🏻‍♂

Scripture helps>> God wants all men to be saved first Timothy 2:4, second peter 3:9! God, predestines groups or plurals only, never individuals. Ephesians 1 -2 points: “ us and we” are pre-destined never “you and I“! And 11 times in 11 verses from 3-14 you have to remain “in Christ“ (in him, in whom) to be predestined! Romans 9:1-3 Paul is talking about the nation of Israel, all the way to the end of chapter 11 ! So, “Jacob, I loved, Esau I hated“ is genesis 25:23 “there are two nations in your womb“! It’s talking about ‘Nations,’ not individuals in the whole context of those three chapters! Stop taking it out of context, along with Ephesians 1! Of course, we have the story of Jacob and Esau and how Esau despised his birthright ! So God truly does love all people, he truly did make hell for the devil and his angels just as Matthew 25:41 says ! Even the 42 youths, mauled by the 2 bears, was because they mocked Elijah‘s rapture, a.k.a. the resurrection , they were saying “go on up Baldy “ ; and ALL their prophets just recently Were killed by Elijah and they should’ve known to stop worshiping Baal! Bethel was the headquarters of Baal worship, where this took place! 490 priests got killed by Elijah, There was no Priests around,; should’ve been a gigantic clue. So God never arbitrarily and haphazardly deals with any human being ! His love cannot be measured says Romans 8! But if you’re a Calvinist, it’s “his love cannot be measured , (Wink, wink)“! Come out of the false belief system of Calvinism ! Now you have no excuse because you cannot out argue this, let’s hear you try! Read Matthew 25 the parable of the Calvinists, a.k.a. talents ! Where the guy buried his talent calling God,- somebody who doesn’t judge rightly & he was thrown into hell as a result! He had the wrong view of God, & So Will a Calvinist, they’ll have a callous view of God & The love of Christs sacrificial death on the cross!

So doesnt it also mean that whenever White criticizes Leighton it wil also make White as cricizer of God's ordination, since Leighton's criticism is also has been iniated by God ? The most crazy thing is in calvinism BOTH SIDES are opposing God when they are debating each other !

For someone skeptical of Dr. Fauci, he’s got a lot in common with him.

Question begging and ad hominem are the beans and bullets of Calvinist argumentation.

God also determined the Calvinists to get mad at Leighton's use of the phrase, which God also decreed! Does that mean that God decreed Calvinists to be mad at Him?

Yes! Every thought, deed, word, action, intuition, bend of the will, and sinful inclination. Determinism should be a deal breaker for everyone.

I like especially the allegory of the doctor predetermining the patient will die because he determines the patient won't take his medication so the doctors doesn't prescribe it. That really explained Calvinism to me!

You guys just don’t understand what decree means. I can give a simple illustration that proves God decrees everything simply based on his attributes. You guys just think decree means he’s forcing people to do everything they do. It’s not the case. We have a freewill and creaturely volition we just only choose to use it to do evil things. In which case God is free to either; allow it, restrain it, or turn it around all together by changing our nature or convicting our conscience. I’ll provide my illustration in a second that leighton himself has refused to respond to and every interaction in these comments has failed to deal with.

Here we go, all we have to do is apply God’s attributes to any situation. We’ll use the example of a pedophile since libertarians like to use that to try and refute Calvinists.. okay, if he rapes a little girl, God is omniscient which means he knows about it before it even happens. He’s omnipresent which means he’s there before and during the wicked act. He’s omnipotent which means he has the power to stop it (even if you say he refuses to interfere with freewill, he could still stop the man’s heart or even make him unbearably sick before he has the chance to do it). And so it inevitably follows that He is making a conscious decision to allow this to happen since he is CHOOSING not to stop it. Now the question is what do we do with that…it appears you guys would rather say that it’s out of God’s hands somehow even though you’re not an open theist as far as I know. While my answer is that God has a holy and just purpose in allowing this to happen even if we don’t know what that purpose is. The best answer a libertarian has is that he allows it solely because he gave us freewill but allowing a rape simply because you have too much respect for the rapist’s freewill is not a sufficient reason. Now you guys try get up and arms about God decreeing whatsoever comes to pass but that’s exactly what he’s doing in this case and that applies ti every other situation to ever take place. So it’s important to note that I’m not saying God is forcing this man to commit the rape… he’s simply allowing the man to do what he wants with his own freewill according to the sinful nature he has apart from God. But without this divulging into an argument about the nature of Calvinism and compatibilism I’d like to hear your own positive explanation since it’s clear based on my example that even in your system God is making a real decision to allow that specific act of evil. Does he have a reason or not? And is it just that he loves the rapist so much and has so much respect for his freewill that he refuses to save the helpless victim? Or is God just as helpless as she is in that situation? I’m truly curious what your answer is. Thank you

Because Leighton doesn’t let up, eventually white has to express what he REALLY means. he can’t hide it behind redefined terms and Word salad

White is and has always been a heretic. Calvinism is heresy

I saw somewhere that she’s still pretty new to the faith. If that’s true, we should give her a little extra grace, as young Christians are full of zeal but still have to learn wisdom

I’m always here if you wanna interact with a Calvinist without getting blocked lol. I can’t get anyone on here to respond to me.

I've never been blocked by anyone (as far as I know.) I feel like I'm a mamby pamby wuss.

You gotta work on your game.

@@quinnpeterson2716 I wonder why you don't respond to me. Have you blocked me? It's been two weeks since you last engaged with me and you seem to be ignoring me in the comments of this video.

I have a problem with your theology too and that is this As believeing in The Gospel is ultimately depended upon my free will So God has no control over my date of birth , place of birth, my body's shape at birth , my gender etc as these things effect my free will As if I am a Hindu or Muslim it is very difficult for me to to believe in Jesus as they also have a way of salvation compared to if I am born at Christian home And if I would have born at the time of Jesus I think I would have believed I am wrong in all these if I choose all these

And one more thing free will only work if all the people would have same amount of time on earth as not all people believe the same day they here some even at their 90 s

@@vikasdiwakar2348 I appreciate that you are thinking!! It all comes down to this basic word that means so much....LOVE. For true love to exist free will must exist as well. If we do not have free will we are all "robots" controlled by our Maker who picks some "robots" He likes and most He doesn't like. Keep thinking!! Appreciate you.

@@jolookstothestars6358 and what about my question it happens all the time whenever I ask something You guys say we are not robot analogy Simple question who controls our birthdays , places an all

@@jolookstothestars6358 plzz answer me and my second question if you will answer that I have one more And that's it If you will answer all of those convincingly I will leave my thology

It's crazy that you say that. I just got blocked by a calvinist on X (formerly twitter) for calling her out on constantly pontificating calvinist talking points without any ability to defend her beliefs during pushback. She blocked me within 1 min.

@@MrMarkovka11 The way they respond makes me think it's an emotional thing with them. In other words if they let go of their calvinistic view then they have to blame themselves rather than blaming God. In other words, they want to believe they're Christians without repentance.

I’ll gladly interact with you kind sir! 😃

⁠@@quinnpeterson2716 don’t know if he’s gonna get back to you, but in the meantime: God wants all men to be saved first Timothy 2:4, second peter 3:9! God, predestines groups or plurals only, never individuals. Ephesians 1 -2 points: “ us and we” are pre-destined never “you and I“! And 11 times in 11 verses from 3-14 you have to remain “in Christ“ (in him, in whom) to be predestined! Romans 9:1-3 Paul is talking about the nation of Israel, all the way to the end of chapter 11 ! So, “Jacob, I loved, Esau I hated“ is genesis 25:23 “there are two nations in your womb“! It’s talking about ‘Nations,’ not individuals in the whole context of those three chapters! Stop taking it out of context, along with Ephesians 1! Of course, we have the story of Jacob and Esau and how Esau despised his birthright ! So God truly does love all people, he truly did make hell for the devil and his angels just as Matthew 25:41 says ! Even the 42 youths, mauled by the 2 bears, was because they mocked Elijah‘s rapture, a.k.a. the resurrection , they were saying “go on up Baldy “ ; and ALL their prophets just recently Were killed by Elijah and they should’ve known to stop worshiping Baal! Bethel was the headquarters of Baal worship, where this took place! 490 priests got killed by Elijah, There was no Priests around,; should’ve been a gigantic clue. So God never arbitrarily and haphazardly deals with any human being ! His love cannot be measured says Romans 8! But if you’re a Calvinist, it’s “his love cannot be measured , (Wink, wink)“! Come out of the false belief system of Calvinism ! Now you have no excuse because you cannot out argue this, let’s hear you try! Read Matthew 25 the parable of the Calvinists, a.k.a. talents ! Where the guy buried his talent calling God,- somebody who doesn’t judge rightly & he was thrown into hell as a result! He had the wrong view of God, & So Will a Calvinist, they’ll have a callous view of God & The love of Christs sacrificial death on the cross!

@@martingagnon7631 which part of Calvinism do you disagree with the most?

But wait a second God had a desire What was it He wants all to be saved But Not all Not many Not even 50:50 Not even few But very very few will be saved According to scripture less than 1/4 Then it's clear His desire failed Not God because he is God but his desire failed badly

False! His desire is to save everyone in the way that He decides to save people. “By Grace through Faith.” Faith is the condition. His desire is not to unconditionally and irresistibly make everyone saved. You question beg your own false belief before hand so that you could come up with that false conclusion……..

@@JohnK557 but it is His desire anyway And what about his another desire as he wish no one to perish It would be a tough decision to allow the servant to send majority into hellfire He might have tears in his eyes You are just ignoring your own theology when Answering this question not being consistent

@@JohnK557 he has a condition but he desires all to believe doesn't he?? He doesn't force but has a desire But only few believed But Satan wanted many not to believe and he got succeeded How would you answer that Satan wanted to have many and he Got?? Satan won

@@vikasdiwakar2348 No, you didn’t address anything I said. Are you able to desire that someone loves you while also not desiring to make them love you? Wouldn’t it mean more to you if they chose to love you?

@sharonlouise9759 Because decree doesn’t mean what leighton insists it means. You guys all think decree means God forces neutral people to do wicked things or good things. It’s not the case. Calvinists believe we have human volition and freewill in a sense we just think our natures are enslaved to sin. So God has the authority to take our wicked intentions and either allow, restrain, or repurpose them for good by giving us new hearts or convicting our conscience. Just like in Job, God decreed that Satan would go this far and no farther. But he didn’t force satan to attack Job. But to answer your question, I’ll do so with my own question. I think the real thing to ask is why would you pray for God’s will to be done if you don’t think he’s allowed to mess with our wills and choices? And if you believe he’s trying his hardest to save every person, why would you ever pray about someone’s salvation? Are you asking him to try harder than he already is?

@@quinnpeterson2716 decree literally means “an order usually having the force of law” according to Merriam-Webster, so Leighton is using the word decree correctly. You have a different definition of decree, and others have pointed out that other Calvinists unapologetically mean it in the proper defining way. You either have to accept the definition and defend it with the proper definition or admit that you do not agree with this part of Calvinism. You cannot change the definition to meet your theology.

@@quinnpeterson2716 I would have appreciated an answer to my question. Your questions do not answer my question.

@@sharonlouise9759 the answer to your question is simply that we don’t believe God wills is to sin by forcing us to sin. We believe that He wills us to sin in the sense that He gave us volition, we choose to sin, and He’s there in every specific case of sin either allowing it or not allowing it. He could have stopped it and chose not to. Which you shouldn’t have a problem with because that’s your view already, isn’t it? You just believe that He never stops it. Which is crazy cause He does all over in the Bible. Even with Satan. If you hold to all the attributes of God the Bible gives us, you must think that He is present in every situation of sin and capable of stopping it since He’s omnipresent and omnipotent.. so if He doesn’t stop it that means he made a choice not to and since he’s holy he had to have a reason for not stopping it. That’s all we mean by saying He ordains whatsoever comes to pass. Now can you answer my question?

@@quinnpeterson2716 I have a different theology than you have. Man is created in the image of God and part of that entails God giving us free will. Free will, as in Adam's case wasn't simply to name the animals, but a free will that could make moral choices. By nature of having a free will that can make moral choices, Adam and Eve needed to make one. I am sure that there are those that God has stopped from following through with evil that they wanted to commit. But in order for the evil that men commit to be judged by God then they need to exercise their free wills by making those moral choices. I do not believe in determinism. I do not believe that God's prescriptive will is for me to "not" lie, but in His secret will He predetermined and decreed that I would lie. I am a believer and every moral choice I make whether it be righteous or evil is all on me because I am making the choice. I do not look to God to supernaturally step in and remove that choice from me. I do not look at God and see Him as someway implicated because He didn't step in and stop something horrible from happening. Neither do I believe that God is incapable of "stopping" all kinds of things. I am sure that there is "evil' that He has stopped. I simply don't believe that God has decreed whatsoever things come to pass. I do not believe in determinism.

Can the desire of God change???

@@vikasdiwakar2348 ??

@@jass0033 I just asked if Gods desire change or not like he desired that all the Jews would believe in him but they didn't if this can change by time or not As he also Says I want all people to be saved will he withdraw it anyday Basically what I am curious to know is that If God's desire is eternal or not as I have read somewhere that God never changes Does his desire also not change??

@@vikasdiwakar2348 I’m not sure if this answers your question or not, but I believe God always has desired for all man to be saved. But he will never make someone believe. Pray about it and search the scripture.

@@jass0033 yes and he says I don't want any to perish And has no pressure in the death of the wicked Then how will he send the majority of the people to the hell having that desires if desire is eternal He will send them it's true but they are many but he desires not even one to go to hell But many will go to hell and few to heaven I have a problem understanding this

sociology 😂

This brings to my head an interesting thought: That under Calvinists though there is no obedient person since all do only what God determined them to do.

If Calvinists were honest about their doctrine: "There is no obedience or disobedience! There is only -Zuul- God's Decrees!"

You are absolutely correct… . In calvie land, Peter should be praised for his determined obedience in denying Christ three times ..

Decree does not mean God is taking a well meaning man and forcing him to hate Him. It just means God has the authority to change it and if He chooses not to, that’s still decreeing it. Just like with Job. God decreed that Satan would go thus far and no farther. That doesn’t mean He forced satan to attack Job. But anytime. Calvinist points this out, Leighton calls it “a distinction without a difference.” Even though, clearly, there is a major difference between forcing someone to sin or making the authoritative choice to allow, restrain, or redeem their intentions. Everyone has a freewill in that they are capable of choosing what they want to do. We are just slaves to sin because all we want to do is sin. Leighton just ignores our distinctions so he can make more videos.

​@@quinnpeterson2716 distinction without a difference still applies even to your Job example. God decreed before the world began that we should have a sinful nature and that we cannot do otherwise no matter what, unless God chooses you to do otherwise. In Calvinism, before the world began, God decreed that Satan would bring the evil in Job's life, therefore yes God would be responsible for the evil in Job's life and not Satan

I too admire your patience with him and the other Calvinists. I fear I couldn't be so gracious. Before I educated myself about Calvinism, I struggled with a great fear of this angry, vengeful god who would condemn babies to hell. I worked for many years as an advocate for disabled children and adults. It horrified me that many thought that babies and adults with intellectual disabilities rendering them incapable of understanding the gospel through no fault of their own, would be condemned to hell. I lived with a sense of dread feeling I was probably not one of the elect.

I love it when James White goes into the Greek. He simply winds up affirming that I've understood the text properly!

Yeah leighton’s a stinker

Who art thou that answereth back to God who decreed JW to turn off comments? When I encounter Calvinists there is a general sense of a lack of curiosity but rather an aim to discredit the opposing view by hook or crook.

He knows he could lose subscribers if they're exposed to opposing views on his own channel. It's a measure designed to keep the numbers from changing too quickly. Think of it in terms of not shooting yourself in the foot.

@@AndrewKeifer I spend more time on here than on James white’s videos and you haven’t convinced me yet, Andrew 😉 lol

@@quinnpeterson2716 relaitively speaking, there's very few of you guys on these videos, so that would make you the exception, not the rule. 🙂

@@AndrewKeifer haha I get it I’m just messing around. Let me know what you think of those quotes I posted in the other comment thing. I feel like they almost have to give you a different idea of Calvinism with how clearly they lay out the difference between what I believe and what most people seem to think I believe about providence.

Yes, well said.

I believe he has said he hired someone on Fiverr to perform it.

On Calvinism, the universe is a puppet show contrived and controlled in every minute detail BY God FOR God. God is the only acter/actor and the only audience. No other is really there. Not only are none of us a real boy, we aren’t even off the strings. Therefore we aren’t even there at all.

@@Zomfoo - Don't forget, for His glory . . in His own eyes ; )

God wants all men to be saved first Timothy 2:4, second peter 3:9! God, predestines groups or plurals only, never individuals. Ephesians 1 -2 points: “ us and we” are pre-destined never “you and I“! And 11 times in 11 verses from 3-14 you have to remain “in Christ“ (in him, in whom) to be predestined! Romans 9:1-3 Paul is talking about the nation of Israel, all the way to the end of chapter 11 ! So, “Jacob, I loved, Esau I hated“ is genesis 25:23 “there are two nations in your womb“! It’s talking about ‘Nations,’ not individuals in the whole context of those three chapters! Stop taking it out of context, along with Ephesians 1! Of course, we have the story of Jacob and Esau and how Esau despised his birthright ! So God truly does love all people, he truly did make hell for the devil and his angels just as Matthew 25:41 says ! Even the 42 youths, mauled by the 2 bears, was because they mocked Elijah‘s rapture, a.k.a. the resurrection , they were saying “go on up Baldy “ ; and ALL their prophets just recently Were killed by Elijah and they should’ve known to stop worshiping Baal! Bethel was the headquarters of Baal worship, where this took place! 490 priests got killed by Elijah, There was no Priests around,; should’ve been a gigantic clue. So God never arbitrarily and haphazardly deals with any human being ! His love cannot be measured says Romans 8! But if you’re a Calvinist, it’s “his love cannot be measured , (Wink, wink)“! Come out of the false belief system of Calvinism ! Now you have no excuse because you cannot out argue this, let’s hear you try! Read Matthew 25 the parable of the Calvinists, a.k.a. talents ! Where the guy buried his talent calling God,- somebody who doesn’t judge rightly & he was thrown into hell as a result! He had the wrong view of God, & So Will a Calvinist, they’ll have a callous view of God & The love of Christs sacrificial death on the cross!

@@jjphank - OK, you convinced me ; )

@@johnknight3529 all the scripture defeats Calvinism; I’m undefeated as well since starting apologetics several years ago on KZfaq!

Lol....well, did you WANT incense and chanting? Cause that's gonna cost extra!!

Indeed. The Calvinist "Giants of the Faith" (or, as I like to call them, the "Dead Calvinists on Pedestals"/"DCPs") are merely their equivalents of Roman Catholic "Saints" or pagan "Demigods".

@@DamonNomad82 Agree. They are much overrated. The same for St. Augustine who introduced many errors. And I'm tired of pastors quoting (St.) C.S. Lewis (who was probably a closet Catholic) as though he was a giant of the faith.

A Protestant hero of the past, the first Lutheran in fact, spoke thusly: "When Judas hanged himself, so that his guts ripped, and as happens to those that are hanged, his bladder burst, then the Jews had their golden cans and silver bowls ready, to catch the Judas piss...and afterwards together they ate the sh!t and drank..." One could do better than that for a hero. Howard Stern would be a step up towards civil discourse and decency.

@@williammarinelli2363 I had not heard that quote before. And they have largely hidden the most shocking things the "first Lutheran" wrote, especially about the Jews.

Satan always looks for the weak link/s in each individual. We all have at least 'one'😎. And Satan has many tools from which to pick which are just right for the job. He's been at it since the beginning. Calvinism is a tool. A perfect trap, devised to separate believers from trusting that God loves them, personally. It often attracts a certain type who find it hard to resist the temptation to 'know' something which others do not. It can be a seduction too much to resist. Also, there are those willing to follow and trust someone else making that claim. It's really very clever and offers the perfect plausible deniability... because "God did it to them" and they had nothing to do with it🤷🏻‍♂. They just don't know why he hasn't 'done it' to you. They 'hope' he planned to, but if not, you'll simply bust hell wide open without a prayer.... for no other reason than to bring God more glory🤔🤔 It's insidious.

Ortlund is probably a CINO: Calvinist In Name Only

@@R.L.KRANESCHRADTT _"It often attracts a certain type who find it hard to resist the temptation to 'know' something which others do not."_ This is very insightful. It's especially potent against the younger generations who weren't taught a lick of critical thinking in school all the way up through college. It's as if they think that holding to logically contradictory views is somehow a means of challenging authority and this is part of the engine driving this most recent resurgence of Calvinism. The "young, restless and reformed" crowd.

I know some people love these debates. I don't need to watch them because I have now found peace know that God is love for us all who come to him and does not elect some of us at random to burn in hell for his own glory.

@@cynthiaadkins-zj9ut Of course, The Holy Spirit can do truly amazing things to us, including bringing us inner peace and strength, real happiness even. - About the debate... I just hope and pray daily that Dr. (Leighton) Flowers wins. What would be the point of Soteriology 101 after a defeat? - No pressure 🙂.

🤣🤣✌️

Yep these reformed types do nothing but quote their heroes! Repulsive.

Especially that hero of their’s named Jesus. They like to use him a lot… so frustrating They be like, “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him and I will raise him up at the last day.” “You did not choose me but I chose you.” “Unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” “You must be born of the water and the spirit.” -“I will remove your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh and I will cause you to walk in my statutes.” “The wind blows where it will, you hear the sound of it but do not know where it comes from..so it is with everyone who is born of the spirit.” Who can go to heaven? “With man it is impossible. But with God all things are possible.” “I do not pray for the world, but for those you have given me out of the world.” It’s so stupid I just always tell them to come see me when they get some real arguments

You're not even a trinitarian. Why should any Christian take you seriously?

🤣🤣 Nice one!

Calvinism is not a theology it is a (false) methodology of biblical interpitations.

Just like John McArthur did with Alana(x- calvinist) It was the worst thing he has ever said about another believer in my opinion.

I’ve never seen such sappy fan boys on a KZfaq channel lol. Just gassing him up. I don’t think either of them need to repent for pride they are simply adults having a grown up discussion lol

Yep, much money to be made in Reformed culture. The books, oh, my, the books...the speaking tours, it just goes on. Filthy lucre Calvinism is.

Can the desire of God change???

God desires all to be saved and not even one to perish Then it would be very difficult for him to allow these huge number of people to go to hell Is there same scenario when scripture, specially Lord Jesus described the end times and the day of judgement I see a complete different Jesus there Using harsh words to them Instead giving reason like you did not believed that's why I won't open the door instead he says I never knew you And some other scenarios like The parable of wheat and tares

​@@vikasdiwakar2348 _"God desires all to be saved and not even one to perish"_ True as He made clear in 2 Peter 3:9, but most Calvinists believe that Jesus was NOT being genuine in that passage. _"Then it would be very difficult for him to allow these huge number of people to go to hell"_ This would be true if God decided to save everyone by force which is not the case according to the Bible. _"I see a complete different Jesus there..."_ Indeed most Calvinists serve a complete different Jesus; definitely not the one in 2 Peter 3:9.

@@gk.4102 may I know your understanding on the parable of wheat and tares

@@vikasdiwakar2348 The world is made up of 2 kinds of people: children of God (i.e. those who freely follow God) and children of Satan (i.e. those who freely follow Satan). The point of the parable is that Judgement will happen at the appointed time (end of the age) and not before. This is a parable, hence it's not a one-to-one representative of reality. That's why there is a saying "All analogies break down at some point". That's why we focus on the POINT of the analogy and not the analogy itself. For example: The parable says that the enemy sneaked in to sow bad seed when the owner was sleeping (i.e. distracted), but we know God doesn't sleep nor slumber. Another example: Seeds are what they're from inception and can't change, but we know people can change from following Satan to God or vice-versa.

Right, what are they rebelling against?