No you dont

Here take this 🤡

Even if they steal? Even if they pawn your shit? Even if they secretly write down your credit cards and max them out? Even if they take a loan out in your name and never pay it? Even if they use your car and get in a hit and run? Even when they lie about having a job? I DID help family.

Why exactly tho why does someone have to help the family that doesn't help you ? Are you gonna answer?

got another joke?

True thats what i was thinking too

Bingo!

The crazy thing is, some KNOW they’re the ones doing this, and some others LET their ego keep them in the dark. Responsibility vs. blame is a greate video on the YT actualized.org channel. There are so many resources and knowledge out there(free!) so there isn’t an excuse.

Good for you

What's wrong in helping family? Lot of people give donations to unknown people. But it's ur life it's ur choice.

That’s actually profound! I like that one

I agree with it, but if is a narcissistic family, community, and so on. That thing could change, depends on the context and the info you had.

So true

Your right

100%

I absolutely love you Abby...your spoon skills and not afraid of recording the teeth video!!! Love from Georgia!!!

Don't be afraid of the stigma.

​@@JoshuaFluke1 Hey man. Very fucked up what you're going through. A big part of the reason why most professional athletes end up broke is exactly this kind of thing. Their families and those around them expect to have the good life and for them to maintain and spoil them, and it's not easy to maintain a village, even if you're a millionaire, especially when the going gets tough (which it will). It's also hard to get your shit in order if the people you are supporting don't have their shit in order. I think you should watch the movie What's Eating Gilbert Grape if you haven't already. It's about this exact kind of situation where one guy has to burden the weight of his entire family which only leads to resentment and the further degeneration of their relationship. It also offers some glimmer of hope on how to escape this kind of trap, and move on from it. Really think you'd get a lot of value from it.

Once i met a guy at a gas station in jacksonville. He had a guitar on his back and struck up a little conversation. He told me about how he played with the "spoon lady" and seemed so proud of it. I thought it was kinda weird but i looked up "spoon lady" when i got home and now im jealous of him lol.

@@JoshuaFluke1 those last texts sent to you mom were gross. Unfortunately when she is gone, that's what you will have to look back on. I can say from experience (& I've gone thru stuff with family that is beyond disturbing), that no matter what, it's not worth it. Fix it while you still can. Not with $, but whatever else.. or regret will be there waiting at the end. ✌🏼&💚💛💚

really dude?

@@nadir2k yes it is

@@nadir2k 100000%

@@nadir2k 1000000%

Yes. I had too

Amen!!

There you go!

It would be a funny situation if someone had parents as irresponsible and manipulative and abusive as his but who had all the money they needed. I mean, many probably do, but his situation may make someone think that only money can cause problems like this.

That person who needs "help" can go get a job too btw

I always say that. People always get hung up on blood. Doesn't make them family

You use the term UNCONDITIONAL love yet apparently you place conditions on loving your dad? Not saying hes innocent of anything or that you are wrong, only that your logic is flawed.

@@russellswonderfullyweirdwo8493lmaooo your comment makes zero sense

@@russellswonderfullyweirdwo8493 please re read the foolery you wrote

@@iversonlopez8538 Unconditional love means theres no conditions. Yet shes obviously placed conditions on loving her father. So she expects love unconditionally but is unwilling to love that way herself. Whats so hard about that. FLAWED LOGIC, but at least she has logic.

Your comment sent chills down my spine.

Yeah

I don't have a job yet but I'm going to do the same. Money brings out the evil in a person.

This is facts, thankfully I only have witnessed other people learn this rather then having to learn through experience.

the other option is forcing the kid to sign complete control of their bank accounts over to them. then forcibly remove him from the equation, society today will just chalk it up to suicide.

Thats a lighter way of seeing it haha

Patrick M....That's an astute summary in a nutshell. Profound yet simple. He is definitely a legend. Courageous in the face of painful grief.

Indeed. Many cannot truly even imagine the utter strength (& toll) it takes. Stay safe & be well. #HiddenAbuse #DoctorRamani #LifeCode "B.A.I.T.E.R.S." #LisaARomano #PsychopathFree #Manipulation #GREYROCK #NoContact

That's normal. His, and his offspring if he so chooses to have any. He owes his elders nothing whatsoever.

As someone that had been here: not a legend. Masochistic? Yeah. There is nothing legendary about hurting yourself over and over again. Getting out of it: that's a good thing.

@William Mills Agreed. I'm tired of seeing politics everywhere I go. It's not healthy. Libertarian here

(lobster heriarchy)

@@Accidentlly0nPurpose how's your wife's boyfriend doing?

@@Accidentlly0nPurpose Why, and how, do so many manage to turn everything into a political comment???!!! I'm sick of it. I detest politics. It breeds mistrust, destroys lives and tears families and friends apart. It kills people too. Inc those whom risk their lives daily to save those such as yours! If what recently occurred in Capitol Hill has not taught anyone anything about the dangers of politics, (religion elsewhere too), then it is a double tragedy from a profoundly powerful horrific lesson unlearned. Why does every individual have their individuality erased by the grouping into two sides? Why are people either on Left or Right? What ever happened to the middle and balance? It must be very wobbly and tiring deciding which leg to stand on. I agree with William Mills and others stating this is not the place for a political post. Were it not for recent events, I would have ignored it. But there is no "lol". There is nothing funny. And I just had to address it....sorry about that to others though!

@@pleaseenteranamelol711 Sure it's not the Patriarchy (Dr Jordan Peterson)?

It is a crime. It's Financial Abuse

@@alexandrapower6445 PFFFFFFFFT! No one held a gun to his head. He's finally wised up, but cannot claim abuse. He WAS the better person, until he started spillin tea on youtube.

@@russellswonderfullyweirdwo8493 No one needs to hold a gun to your head. There are different weapons like using the suicide of a friend as emotional leverage to get you to "save" the other person. Or just because you are too kind and feel you really should help before you eventually realise you really should not. In the UK, financial behaviour as this is legally classified as abuse if using emotional leverage, (Inc religion), and/or against a vulnerable person. Maybe US is different. It's not am offence if a cheque bounces in UK But I understand it is total opposite in US? Everywhere is different. But it's still financial abuse Yes he escaped despite the initial obvious pain in doing so. That takes courage to walk away from when they meant so much to through life. Only to betray you. But it takes something really bad to push you to that extreme anyway. He did good. And him "spilling it all over KZfaq" is not only good for him emotionally and financially, (not continuing to lose money because of them by giving it to a therapist instead), but is helping others too. So many thinking it was only them, now realise differently. Anything helping another is good

@@alexandrapower6445 Oh your in the UK nuff said. Yeah sorry two wrongs dont make a right. They were greedy yes, he helped them more than I personally would have, that was his choice. But as much as they used him for money, he's doing the same with pity clout. EXCEPT they never publicly defamed him. Maybe someone should help them make a youtube channel. REALLY get some youtube drama going for clicks and sympathy...

@@russellswonderfullyweirdwo8493 I am unsure what ".. from UK."nuff said" implies, if anything at all? I don't make such comments to those elsewhere. I'm unsure what the "two" wrongs are otherwise I would agree. Defamation necessitates slander or libel. False or manipulated allegations for the purpose of destroying a person's true character. There is no defamation because he evidenced everything with text communication screenshots. He has not lied or stated anything not evidenced. As you stated earlier, he eventually "came to his senses" and did the sensible thing. You don't agree with him talking about a subject which is usually kept silent. There's nothing wrong in having an opinion. You're fully entitled to yours and don't need anyone telling you otherwise. My opinion is that he has opened up a subject which is helping many whom thought they were alone. Plus he's expressing the emotions of it all from Day 1 to final acceptance. He's not just saving a fortune on useless therapy but is additionally helping others on this painful subject too. That's just mine, and many others opinion. You have a right to think differently too. It does not necessitate disparaging comments. Yes. I am from UK. And it feels the same to experience here as it does to those in US. It helps to hear another's experience. If it was not substantiated with evidence, then that would be an entirely different story and I have absolutely no doubt that they would have sued him in a heartbeat were that the case. Only the evidence proves they haven't a leg to stand in. They're horrible, greedy people with no compassion. What is far worse to me personally is not money it's that they revealed total absence of care re his mental or physical health. Were he a working horse, they'd have been flogging it until it took its last step. Then left it to die or shot it. No longer useful to them. I get why some think as you do. But many out there are helped when realising it's not just them and their feelings are validated. Or they learn what they have to do and what to expect to feel when doing so. That has to be better than keeping silent. They don't deserve anonymity over helping others. As long as it's not criminal, they do not get to decide how he chooses to deal with his pain. I do think the girlfriend and best friend story take it into a different category though. It serves no purpose other than to sadly detract from the originality and importance of the financial one. But we all make mistakes and he's suffered a lot of betrayal, but I hope he stays kind and rises above it outside of the family one.

Spot on.

Exactly what I was thinking!

Keep it going bro, good shit on your recovery. 💯

Being a recovering heroin addict myself, as well as having lazy, entitled family, I can say I've seen people waste this much who are not on drugs. I swore up and down my step sister was on drugs because she had every sign, and only an addict can go through that much money, but they shocked me. It's easy to waste so much money. Great job on staying clean, and congrats on being one of the strongest people in a first world country. Getting clean is nearly impossible, and most can't do it. Keep up the fantastic work!

Agreed

Yeah he needs to distance himself from that mental torture. Poor guy 😰

Yeah he should see a therapist So he gets validation for his thoughts providing the therapist is good.

You can be stronger than them.

This

Therapy is a load of shit he can do it by himself hes a young lad strong minded.

I say this all the time now but it’s a lesson I learned later in life. I wish I knew this at 20, would have saved me many headaches.

This is a bad way, generally speaking there are some times it's best like this kid. But generally family is family no matter what. You wouldn't want your child ghosting you bc you disagree with something they are doing. Your it's parent

@@PhatesDemise Thats why i said generally; but again family is family; Things change when you have children; Period.

That part and most will never understand they will use you until you die and not give a crap about you

@@rockstar-kp2jy family is family is a bunch of garbage when a person is being abused from birth and straight into adulthood

True! I can’t seem to process how ones own parents can be so narcissistic and parasitic with their own son.

@@aaron6968 it's who they are. I recommend alba weinmann the empath narcissist dance

Of course, but he's a liar. He's employed and makes money. We are on his monetized channel right now.

This 100%. I resorted to recording conversations and writing down everything that happened in the moment and then going back to it a week or month later to review what happened. Or how it came about, because in the moment you think you are or *could* be wrong - you are so emotionally invested, but the reality is they are nuts.

@@NationandState isn’t he talking about a point in his life when he was unemployed though? Regardless, nobody deserves to be treated that way

That is exactly what he has done. Without even knowing Josh has provided tremendous support.

I’ve never been in that position, but to me it isn’t that hard to decide, you are your own person and responsible for yourself, helping family is okay to a certain extent, but not when you’re drowning yourself, he cares about his family and it would be best if he took care of himself because that’s what being an adult is about, once you’re 18 you don’t have any responsibilities to no one except the law, when you realize that your family is toxic and taking advantage of you just walk away and don’t look back, leave the door open if they change, but it’s their choice if they do, if they steal then call the police, if they insult you block them, it’s for their own good, they shouldn’t associate their love with how much money their son gives them, maybe later things will change like they always have.

Next time they send you a text asking for money send them back a link to local jobs listed online.

Lol FLW Videos? This is a weird connection 😂

That’s right! Abusive parents, brothers, wives, lovers, friends are everywhere. Nice to help them when they need you but if they abuse you just push the ignore button. So don’t feel bad.

That's absolutely on point.. Great lines

Exactly look forward to move overseas again

The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb.

@@gillypuente1794 ok Karen

@@alexanderespinoza 👁👄👁

Yes. The family that encourage this madness to continue have been conditioned to think this is normal. Don't listen to them. Its inter-generational. That's why its so hard to break out. You don't find any support inside the family for this very reason.

I was wondering why all of his relatives behave like this, but this makes sense.

Dude that helps me so much and it makes sense

Good for you. Sounds like you have broken the cycle of disfunction.

The saying is "the blood of battle is thicker than the water of the womb." Family is not owed.

Hey man, you do sound like you're ok and everything but I hope you don't feel too bad about what happened with your mom. Like pretty much everyone else here I definitely get the bad family dynamics and everything, but that sort of thing can still leave you with some guilt or feeling like maybe you did the wrong thing. You seem happy otherwise though, I'm glad.

They've probably never opened a Bible either 🥴

they cant read what they wont. they would just either ignore or change the topic

thats the point of evangelicals. either take religion to the word like Westboro, Mormons or Jehova Witnesses, or never read the bible at all like these kinds of "Christian" families.

@@johnbilljapaneselove That is not true. Westboro do not represent christianity! I'm sorry if you have had bad experiences with people who profess to be christians. People who really follow Christ follow his example and put others before themself, love their neighbour, are humble and giving. God bless

Exactly. It’s not uncommon for narcissists and manipulators to invoke God to present themselves in a false light. It is absolutely reprehensible. God does not smile on their sin.

Any angst Josh feels from this point forward from his family will be his own fault. You cannot put your hand back on a hot stove and not expect to get burned.

What? Lol

@@detroitbaby161 You kidding me? Something tells me you've never been in a similar situation where you were forced to disown your family for your own well being. To say there would be no angst after that point is simply asinine and borderline sociopathic due to complete lack of empathy. WTF is wrong with you??

@@shadelings You have no idea. I came out of a severely physically and emotionally abusive family. There’s a time when you have to let yourself heal by moving away

@@detroitbaby161 I'm very sorry to hear that. And that's very true about healing but to make such a black and white statement that there should be no more angst/anxiety, etc after the point where one removes oneself from such a toxic familial situation just seems awfully severe to the point of being devoid of empathy.

@Heyjose Yes why is this, who conditioned this or who started this trend?

I have actually seen this sort of problem in a particular cultural group from the Middle East. Whatever family member has money gets sucked dry by the others. And there's lots of shaming if there is any resistance. I won't say the name of the country because I don't know if it is widespread or not, but I've seen it in more than one family from there.

@Joe dIRT- i'm actually a woman. But I'm not too offended. I love the gentility of people holding doors for one another. I will happily hold the door for an older man or woman (though at my age that's getting a little harder to do, LOL). I'll hold it for people carrying packages. I take turns holding the door with my husband, but he loves to do it. but this third wave feminism, it is incredibly toxic. I wasn't all that excited by the second wave, myself. I don't know what brand of Christianity they were raised with, but the kind I was raised well with the kind where husbands and wives bend over backwards to help one another, but you keep your boundaries healthy. Diamonds are OK if you can afford them, but not necessary in any way shape or form. One of my criteria for getting married to anyone was to be able to answer yes to the following question: do I love this man enough to live under a bridge with him? but there seem to be so many gold diggers out there these days. and it sounds like this kids parents both fit that description. And he's all tangled up in it. Well, it does sound like he's trying to get free of it. He has confused love with letting other people take advantage of him. My parents died along time ago, but we've been taking care of my husband's mom all the way till she passed away this year. Financially. And in other ways. But that was a woman who knew how to keep healthy boundaries, she liked to be happy and she didn't like upsetting people. she didn't like asking for more even when she needed it. That's a completely different situation than Joshua has. He has genuinely toxic parents. apparently they both suffer from the inability to handle money properly combined with a complete absence of boundaries around money. Who charges money on other peoples credit cards? Criminals do! and when his parents do criminal things, he can't bring himself to face the facts of it. Hopefully he is getting there. My own mom was very wise about money. You have to keep clean edges. If you loan money to someone, you write up an agreement with an interest rate and an action to be taken if default happens. Even if it's family. Especially if it is family. That way there is no room for misunderstanding, No need for arguments, clean edges. Relationships can stay intact.

@Joe dIRT - you might try the same test before you get involved with another woman. Is she willing to live under a bridge with you if things get bad? Or is she materialistic? And does she expect you to give money to her family? Would she want you to do something stupid like cosign a lease or a car note for a family member? Is she willing to work if for some reason you can't or if your income isn't very big? Does she know how to live on a budget? Will she sign a prenuptial agreement? I hate it when I see men taken to the cleaners by selfish women.

@Joe dIRT - I get what you are saying. It does cut both ways, but the fact that there are so many men being treated like garbage, and the fact that the legal system rewards women and penalizes men in some terrible ways is not ok. One of my favorite people experienced stuff from his ex that had my jaw drop. What was really sad was how moved he was that a female (and a stranger to him at that time) understood and agreed and expressed a little sympathy and understanding of what he was dealing with. Congrats on 10 years, enjoy many more! We just passed 35 years.

Narcissism is a kind of contagious irresponsibility and these people mutually validate each other.

Sounds fucked, is your dad alright tho.

@@onenerdygeek812 thanks for asking. He's doing alright.

@@MC-rw2bk phew. Thats fucked up dude

thats fucked up

sadly this is called parentified. I was victim of it too

Should’ve flushed them down the toilet.

Thank you! Actually, I honestly believe that if I hadn’t cut communication with my family, I wouldn’t be financially stable now. They would have sucked my life down with theirs.

🙏🏼❤️

You’re lucky it’s a sad thing when you’re surrounded by toxic users that have the nerve to say family but their never the ONE so ending their money

He let us work that one out lol

See his latest video

I was going to comment this exact same thing, they have the exact patterns and behaviors.

Thou shalt not take the Lord's name in vain

That’s why we invented god in the first place.

We all do it... Its the use of authority argument, problem is, one might not subscribe to that authority.

@@johnagcaoili9389 I named my buttwipes "God" and "Allah"

@@BichaelStevens very funny. You do you. ​My point about the 2nd commandment was exactly Katie Smith's comment; i.e. I was agreeing with her. For Christians, we believe that humans are created in the "Image of God". As such, we are supposed to represent God to others through virtues. When we sin (lie, steal, kill, et al), we misrepresent God and are not living up to our duties as divine ambassadors. This is even graver when people claim to kill in God's name. This is exactly what's wrong with Joshua's family (grandma in particular). They are using God's name to try and assert unjust control and to steal from him.

mind telling us what did the parents do after he killed himself?

@@pointerariza parasites have to find another host.

@Josef If ur contemplating suicide, then you've already given everything you have except ur own life. They shall not take that too. F that. F them. You have every right now. Undoubtedly. To be your own man. Someone's gotta save u. Where are they? They don't care about u. It's up to you. Be free. Cut off the poison. You can't help them. Help yourself. Take it from someone who has been through it. Stick with yourself for a while. All that weight on ur back has made u strong and it's time to build ur life. Watch out for other vultures trying to fill the void. They can sense the prey animal in u. Give it time on ur own

@@dZorroIII i second your notion with maximum violence!

yeah i have parents and brother like this as well. they always used to put me down. and they kept insulting me. then my wife came into my life and she pushed me to get my post university job. finally i got an offer. and the same parents constantly insulting me and demanding me to give them all my money while they spend their wealth on my brother. they never even spend $5 on a gift for me or my wife. but they keep asking for $300 per month regardless of our situation. and now my wife works and they want her to pay as well. and i couldn't take it anymore so we moved out and we pay way more in rent for the peace of mind that we get living alone together.

Herion for sure.

You do owe your parents because they gave you the ability for life, but if they refuse to treat you like an individual after you are 24, they are hurting the relationship. If your parents treat you with respect and compassion, it is your job to take care of them, when they can’t take care of themselves as they did for you. If they fail to raise you or treat you with respect, you don’t owe them anything. Like all relationships it is a get what you give situation.

@@anonymousguy720 if you want to help them do so, if not, don't. It is still there job to setup a financially secure future for themselves. Children are not retirement plans.

@@anonymousguy720 "Because they give you the ability for life" is not true. I hear this all the time from my parents, and from other parents as well. But that ain't true. Why? Because, those parents always say "I have given you the ability for life" after they have treated their kids like s**t, beat them up badly for no reasons(or just because they are mad at each other, or the father got drunk), etc.... In short, if you can choose your parents, then you do owe them something. If you can't, you don't owe them anything, just because they "give birth" to you. I haven't even mentioned the fact that parents in my country are very irresponsible for their actions. They always say one thing and do another, show their kids bad examples of themselves. But when their kids learned from their examples, the parents always say "We did not teach you to be a bad person", and i was like "Really"????

@@anonymousguy720 The onus isn't on the offspring to care for the needs of the parents, especially at the behest of their psychological and financial detriment. The decision to undergo a pregnancy is not partaken by the one being conceived, therefore they are not complicit in any of the consequences associated with their own procreation. A child is not a lifetime indentured servant to their parents desires, if your motivation for having children is as a future safety net for your own negligence then that's nothing more than exploitation and DCFS needs to abrogate you of your custodial rights.

@@JoshuaFluke1 I'm following you for 2 years, but this is my first time that I'm not agreed with your thoughts.

😂 damn true.

You hit the nail right on the head...narcissists don’t have relationships, they have hostages!

Religious blackmail. Where they don’t act like Christians but expect everyone else to.

Heroin 1000 percent.

turns out , it was lol

1000%

There is nothing wrong with helping parents who can't help themselves but these are people who have proven they have no intentions of taking care of themselves.

100% true.

No one asked to be brought into this world. period.

Thank god decent chicks exist

@@losttale1 definitely. It may seem like there’s only a few sometimes, but I promise we don’t all have the same crazy outlooks on life. 😄

You are all so right. I grew up around a lot of super religious people too who believed that you owed your very life to your parents....I realized that was a very manipulative mindset when I became a parent. The way I see it is if my son wants to help me in my old age, cool, but I could never expect that of him. I don’t think it’s right to think that way at all. Guess it took growing up and starting to think for myself to realize it, as sad as that sounds. It irks me to no end to hear someone try and guilt anyone into ‘owing’ another person anything, especially when a relationship is so obviously toxic. I know that the decision to cut off a toxic family relationship is never an easy decision, I guess I just feel this whole video a lot because I’ve been on both sides of the relationship, as a mom and as a daughter (luckily after years of not speaking my folks and I were able to work it out but that’s not always the case).

@Amanda Anderson exactly!!!

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Damn, I like that.. So true

I guess teachers are nothing but problem makers

@@BichaelStevens teachers are not helping you with nothing in return. They make a salary

@@kingwilliam6817 teachers help twice thrice every tice.

I was thinking this.

Except taxes... Lol

They do sound like narc's. The grandma too.

Any time I've heard a family talk strongly about how family should always be there, it's been from the family members that steal, use, and abuse the families kindness. I don't expect blind loyalty from anyone and I dont need to because I'm not an asshole.

Like he said, there is a difference between help and enabling.

@@angelbrumfield6134 thank you 🙏🏾 !!!! That applies to my own mom as well, she told me weeks ago « I made you so that when you grow up you can take care of me » like I’m a slave and I told her « no that doesn’t work like that ».

@Kitty It's absolutely disgusting how commonplace this kind of behavior and mentality this has become.... These kinds of so called "family" members make me fucking sick

Tell my mom that, she thinks i owe her just because she gave birth to me. Which i didn't ask for

@@slindilengema9389 I know exactly where you're coming from on that one. She's wrong, and if she's going to act that way and have that kind of mentality, then there's no point in trying to say anything to someone like that and you don't owe her shit.

@@slindilengema9389 my mom was the same. There came a point where i had to make that hard decision and cut her off.

No-no-no. Not all given out of kindness. Sometimes obligation and commitment are above of kindness. You don't have to be a kind person to have a kid. It's good if you're kind. Your kid will become a better person. But a basic parent is a responsible parent. That is the most important thing.

All these people are able enough to work. His sister is not in a nursing home. You have a false story in your head .

@@RobertaPeck pretty sure she's referring to what happened to Josh.

@@RobertaPeck no, you've taken her the wrong way

I believe some states consider this as domestic violence as well

@A Southern Bam it’s basically all of the above.

There are plenty of toxic people in this world, and guess what, they belong to families too! They come from somewhere right?

@@VenturiLife What's your point? Just because they belong to a family doesn't mean they're not toxic. Smh 🤦‍♀️

@@neptunes297 lol you didnt get it.

@@neptunes297 that person was coming for people saying family cant be wrong

Joshua doesn't owe anyone an explanation or "proof". It's your life and you make the decisions because YOU will reap the benefits and suffer the consequences, not the baboons in the KZfaq comments section (myself included).

He does though right? He seems to have more resolve too. It's not hard to say he made the right decision.... Holy sheeeit.... • Stole Credit Cards • Took a Loan out in his name • Let Daughter steal car and wreck it (while in Josh's name -- guess who got the bill) • Months of Mooching (Rent + Insurance + CIgarettes + Food [Burgers🤣] + Gas Money + More) • Multiple Trips • Happily Spent his Life Savings • Dad cashed in on multiple people at the same time • So many more

Hey definitely does. Cutting off toxic family is such a huge load off of ones back.

@@thisguy1397 not months. Years

For sure, I just found this channel from the first disowned vid and he looks so much better in this vid, I think clearly less stress in his life.

@@ATSaale so sorry josh so sad. ❤️🙏

@@technofeeliak yes John. It must be agonisingly painful. Parents are the only ones we have even when the world is against us.

@Imran A how do you know it’s sarcasm?

@@maheshpadmanabh6564 parents are not the same for everyone, quite a few are abandoned, or just get abuse from them, as the saying goes "mileage will vary".

@Imran A true yeah I just noticed that

@@maheshpadmanabh6564 sometimes they're the to go against you even before the world does

😂😂 You ain't right.

Lol he's exposing their abuse....everyone needs to expose their abusers. It passes through generations and there is always a scapegoat that is held accountable for others happiness. Its emotional blackmail and these people would see you dead, in exchange for a few bucks.....no empathy. I wouldn't doubt they are druggies....very reminscent of drug addicts.

lol, she just trying to manipulate her grandson using Christianity values which for some reason applies to Josh only

Agree! No way that lady is actually Christian. Just a leach using Christianity to manipulate.

@@joshmeurer9278 Jesus would be twice as hard praying for her to get help, in dissappointment

Sometimes tough love is help

Exactly. They are big fat nasty parasites.

A typical tyrant

Here in Philippines, thats their greatest and shittiest trap card to subdue you.

The Bible is the greatest tool in mankind ever created to gaslight others. In all honesty, I truly believe that's the only reason that our current Religions were created and still remain. They wash each others feet, and give pittance to the tithe to make themselves feel superior, have quotes on hand for any situation with the hypocrisy that the Bible is like Einsteins Theory of Relativity, that for every Bible verse supporting ones argument there's an equal and opposite verse that goes in the opposite direction... Except when it comes to abortion obviously, since it's literally only mentioned in the sense that if your wife sleeps with another man you should stone her till she miscarries. That's it. The Bible says nothing else in regards to abortion. It is a tool used to manipulate people and back it with The Magical Book of Morality. Josh shows it here. He even recited a verse back to his grandmother. And obviously she brushes it off because it doesn't go with her agenda. Don't ever read me a verse from the bible and connect it to how I should live my life. People like Joshua and myself are completely happy to love, care for, and help other people without the 100th revised copy of a book that was written by people who bathed once a week thousands of years ago. It's fucking irrelevant. I don't need to be scared of going to hell to be a Humanitarian. I'm cancelling the Bible. It's a mute point. You heard it here first. You can be spiritual. You can believe in whatever higher power you want. But a book about condemning someone to hell for being gay, with the next line saying if you eat a piece of shrimp you will equally and also be included in those that go to Hell is a book that should be read as fantasy and nothing more. Please, try to gaslight me with lines from a book that talk about stoning people. Old Testament, New Testament, I don't give a fuck. I grew up Catholic, it never made sense. I went to all the classes, obviously my mom never made me an Altar Boy so Bless her.. My mother still considers herself Catholic. Prays to Mary. That's all fine. But she also doesn't ever tell me that I need her god in my life, creating anxiety in me, being afraid of this god... **BUT LOVED TOO** ... It's all in Gods Plan that we've surpassed 300k deaths in America just from the Coronavirus alone.. God loves America, hates children in Uganda, wants kids in Yemen to die from malnutrition. That's his PLAAAAAN. SHUT the fuck up. God has no plan. If there's a god controlling things he's a sick motherfucker. More likely he's a sick motherfucker who made us in his image, spun the earth into motion, and took his hands off the wheel to watch the chaos. There very well may be a spiritual element, or a connection between humans that we can't explain and may never be able to. Or it's electrons in the air. Who knows at this point? Maybe the Earth truly is Gaia and we die, get recycled, and the Earth itself is a living being.. But there aint no mf who looks like us in the sky looking down and blessing anybody. There's luck and maybe some sort of Karma on this Earth, and the only reason I'm adding Karma is going back to Einsteins Theory of Relativity. "Karmic Science" Fuck your Bible verses. I have a bot on Discord that spits bullshit out from the bible when you type +random So now that we have AI that can spout bullshit, we don't need anymore Karens...

@@pretary1845 Man I am so sorry you and many many other people get that impression. Let me be clear the people who use the bible to manipulate will have their fill of the way they have chosen. We can debate the bible all day as you said for every argument for it there exists one against it. I am actually gonna use those words from now on lol that's a very good observation and I am glad I am not the only one who sees it.

@@hc6008 so true ... It fucks with my head