Thoughts on the Finale?

Honestly I'm glad Simon finally reached some sort of closure, after all the guys been through, he seriously needed it. And meanwhile: lich becomes a tetris block. 💀

I love the fact that even though there's magic in her world now, Fionna is appreciating the normal parts of life. It's great.

No matter anyone says, I'm just glad baby Finn is safe

I don't think GBetty was trying to criticize Simon. They were both human and did what they thought was best in order to find their happiness. If Simon knew better, he would have done better. I think Betty was actually trying to say "I sacrificed a ton for you and don't regret it because I think you ARE worth it, and your life has value. If not for yourself, try to do it for me." Of course, the message was sliiightly dilluted by Betty becoming an omnipotent omniscient being and therefore reducing her time with Simon to "an experience" but the love was still there.

I think the line that makes Shermy and Beth make the most sense is when Beth only explains the problem because she assumes that Simon is a child

I ADORE the fact that Fionna finally has a world with fantasy and adventure, but throughout this entire montage, we see her doing slice-of-life things and just hanging out with her friends. Perfect encapsulation of her arc.

Personally, I took the fact that Jay and Little Destiny moved to Fionna's world as confirmation that Farmworld Finn survived his ecounter with the Scarab. I dont believe that Jay would abandon his siblings so nonchalantly if his father was dead and I dont think that Prismo would help Scarab out if he did ended up killing someone who was not an anomaly. Still, I think it would be more fitting if Prismo send OG Finn, along with Farmworld and Baby Finn (maybe the tank as well) to help Fionna just so we could have all the versions fighting together in one shot.

It was so interesting to see how The Lich was just another lonely yet obsessed character who didn't understand their object of obsession outside of their own selfish desires.

It's heavily contextually implied that Farmworld Finn is fine. Everywhere else blood was used to depict dangerous wounds. There was no blood plus Scarab wasn't really on a killing spree until the end. It just doesn't make any sense to assume he is dead or even injured.

I'd like to use the excuse "it's not about the destination, it's about the journey" when talking about this finale. My feelings are basically that I'm willing to let the ending slide since literally the rest of the episodes were absolutely a masterpiece, each and one of them.

The shermy thing has deeper meaning than you realize. Betty trapped Simon in a time loop to protect him. The book/game was written by simon thousands of years before shermy. Simon learned his lesson then writes the book and the cycle never ends

It’s really weird that Fiona’s normalizing touch never came up in the finale. That really felt like it was building up to something.

It may have took a long ass time but our boy Simon has finally gets a conclusion to his story after what? A decade

I think, with the ending, Fionna accepting her world was more than just the Scarab destroying it all. I think it was more so due to the fact that most of the worlds she's seen have gone to shit. She also had the dream of her world being a dark, twisted nightmare rather than the fantasy she wanted. She also watched as others suffered/would suffer so that she can get her world. All the people that died on her journey because of her actions. There's also the fact that many of the people were happy with their world as it was. She just didn't want to sacrifice others anymore and would rather accept her world instead. I personally see it as a logical conclusion for her.

You know, when Fionna made that wish and blew on the dandelion-world thing and it spread out and got absorbed by everyone, it might have been better if some of the human characters became their fantasy counterparts. Like they sort get to be what they really want, to be who they really are like Cake, either as a normal human or their Ooo magical counterpart. Also, totally agree with you on the Farmworld characters and Baby Finn. It would have been better if they did not leave their worlds/came to Fionna's world. It's very jarring that they're here.

Shermy and Beth in my opinion being used in Fionna and Cake was a smart move because, for me, I don't think a show for them alone would be that great, just ok.

I think what Golbetty wanted was to stop Simon from making the same mistakes she made. It wasn't about calling him out for being a bad boyfriend (it was more complicated than that), but to show him where those self-sacrificing tendencies can lead you. The moment Simon realized "I have value beyond what my sacrifice can bring others", the cycle was broken.

My biggest issue with the finale is that Fionna didn't actually learn to appreciate her world, she just learned to fear others. She arrives at the conclusion that her world is good not because she learns to see the beautiful parts over the course of the series or realizes she's homesick for it while out in the multiverse, but by repeatedly being shown horrific alternate realities until she becomes too traumatized to want adventure anymore. Kind of a weird way to go about an arc that's supposed to be about seeing the beauty in life.

I don't get why everybody expected the ending to be emotionally destroying. I am actually a little tired of animated endings that try way too hard to emotionally destroy their audience.

Honestly I think the only reason Fionna and Cake's arc feels off is because it's meant to be open-ended, there's a possibility of a next season but the creators just decided to make it end like that in the case that there isn't cause they likely already have something planned for the things like how come the other people in that town didn't have a choice in wanting to be normal or magical Shermy & Beth's part was pretty great honestly, considering the fact that if you watch when they found the book for the crown Simon said 'This world's petrikov' wrote the book, it makes the most sense that Betty sent him to the future and still thinking that it's a different world. He essentially gave himself the realization that Betty wanted, so it wasn't just an unnecessary camio just so they could put Shermy & Beth into the finale

I’m hoping that all the characters that were brought into Fionna’s world are there as an way to give Season 2 a reason to revisit the worlds we left behind.

Legit canonical universes are made from people’s wishes. Fionna and Cake’s world was unauthorized because it wasn’t made from a wish, but from Prismo’s own creative expression. However, with Fionna blowing her universe-dandelion thing, she made a wish. Now her world is finally tied to a wish, thus making it canonical and legit.

I'm glad someone finally pointed out that jay essentially either left his now orphan brothers and sister behind or and note this still bad. His dad survived who is mostly a guarantee permanent brain damaged person with his youngest siblings to try and take care of him

I’m so happy that Simon finally got some real closure. He still has some work to do since he is going to therapy, but I know he will have a happy ending.

I think the dissonance between the Simon arc and the Fionna and Cake arc makes some 'out-of-universe' sense when we take into account that thing we heard about how this show apparently used a lot from the proposed Simon-focused episode of Distant Lands that never got made. It feels like this conclusion to Simon's arc is something that the writers have had in mind and really locked in for a long time now, possibly even during the writing of Adventure Time itself considering Betty's Mars episode. Whereas it seems like Fionna's and Cake's arc was conceived largely just for this show.

Really the best way for the show to end was to show what each universe looks like during the montage, showing vampire world, baby world, litch world, farm word, things like that

Comment time: 1. Considering Fionna and pals were worried magic coming back would affect them negatively, them choosing to seemingly stay normal, while allowing people from other dimensions to stay might've been an attempt at a healthier compromise. 2. Until proven otherwise, I'm guessing Betty helped Simon and Fionna make her universe canon via the dandelion. 3. Maybe we'll learn what happened to Farmworld and Vampire World in season 2 if we get it? 4. Fionna has a giantess fantasy. Damn, where do I find a girl like that?!

The finale of Fionna and Cake was baked with love! 😍

I'm happy someone FINALY acknowledges the fact that Fionna and Cake where the only ones who got to choose there forms and everyone else have to deal with the fact they lost their old personalities and existence.

For me the best way to explain it is This finale felt like a season finale, not a series. This show has been doing really well so I hope there will be a season 2, as there are still questions i feel could be touched upon. I also want a series about Adult finn because the man is hurting.

Tbh, as a person who didn't watch adventure time all that much, the metaphor worked for me because I had no previous knowledge of their relationship before this show. I didn't even know who a betty was before watching Fiona and Cake.

Fern and FP together I think is incredible. FP definitely has a type Anyways, I think Fionna's arc, especially in this finale, is intended to be a parallel to the fans that grew up with Adventure Time. For me, Adventure Time was always a source of comfort and wonder, and so having a character that longs for that fantasy from childhood/another world is a perfect parallel to what some of us look for in our escapism in shows like this. To have Fionna accept her reality as is was a bit of a bummer in some ways, but the idea of still being able to find magic even in the mundane is something Fionna learned to accept and appreciate, and the show encourages fans to do the same in their own lives. Overall, it was bittersweet and a little underwhelming in some regards, but I think it's a beautiful message that they did an incredible job portraying.

Episode 8 had me like "Okay but I have CONCERNS" 9 and 10 had me very relieved at how they were like "No, that's good, you should feel that way about their relationship, that's the moral of the story"

I see DJ Flame is keeping that mentality of “opposites attract” that Flame Princess had with Finn when she thought he was a water elemental. 😊 Honestly a cute ship.

The show may had provide closure for Simon but for Fiona I don't think it's escapism, she was made as a counterpart to Finn and the show felt like it scared her away from doing any more adventures. Like it's only for boys like Finn and Jake to enjoy. And Cake has the mindset of a regular house cat that can talk and walk with no equal footing with an owner and pet relationship. If there's a season 2, I'm fine with it taking place in the city as a slice of life but continue to go on adventures. Also I would like them regaining their original memories at some point and Fiona regaining her adventurous spirit or at show her being heroic and help people in need to show that she never lost it. As for Cake, I hope her owner and pet dynamic change, her character has a lot of room to grow I would love to see her make flapjacks for Fiona again.

I have 100% convinced myself that Farmworld Finn's anti-piercing vampire resistant hat saved him from a puncture. Also this is our boy Finn we're talking about, no blood, no body, no deaths here.

I easily feel this show could have been extended a few episodes and I felt a bit empty by the ending. Literally watching the last episode i was like "theres no way its ending here". After the Ice Prince dying Fionna is depressed and never does any "adventuring". Yes, I know, this is a different world/reality/dimension, its suppose to be relatible. But literally the entire premise was Fionna NOT liking her normal life and each Finn carnation having that sense of fight and adventure in them. Cake does all the heavy lifting (literally) in the later half and Fionna is given plot armor strawberries to help save the day. Idk, i get this was suppose to be different than adventure time, but the way it was advertised i thought we were getting the fionna and cake we saw previously in the end. Was that just me? The art, music, and relationship of the characters i love but the story arc for Fionna specifically felt cheated.

One of the aspects abt Simon being put into Shermy’s body is that we’re essentially seeing Jake again finally for the first time in this series (properly at least, not counting different dimensions) since he reincarnated into Beth. I feel like a reincarnation of Jake really is the best character to finally make Simon fully realize that him and Betty didn’t have a perfect relationship, especially with him having reached the 50th dead world previously making Beth an even more zen and wise version of him than ever.

While I feel Simon’s story has concluded, I feel like Fionna and Cake’s is just beginning. That’s why I feel a Season 2 is on the horizon. Others have noted this but this really felt more like Simon Petrikov Future than it did Fionna & Cake. That’s not to say the two didn’t have their moments, I just feel like the bigger heavy hitters are being saved for later.

I had the same thoughts about Fionna and Cake’s side of the ending, it definitely didn’t 100% land for me. I’m glad Simon’s ending was as great as it was

I think the reason they left so many open endings for Fiona is so they had an opportunity to explore them if they are green lit for season 2; whereas for Simon, this is truly an ending to his story.

Hope we get more mini series like this every once in a while. It would also be a great way to check in on characters that didn't get conclusions. Like maybe in the next season we see FarmFinn receiving medical care, what happened to the vampire universe, does the Litch's depression extend to all of them, mabye there can be a whole arc with that new universe Scrabby made and it gives the the FC people the ability to switch between their magical and non magical selves, there could be a whole identity crisis arc over it: who am I now that i DO have options? Maybe Simon has some latent magical ice powers from wearing the crown for so long? There's so many ideas that could be explored!

The twist of The Lich's true condition truly amazed me. Bravo to the team that worked on the show🔥✍️

I think the ending should have been that when Simon is trying to get back to Ooo, he ends up back in Prismo's time room, where he makes a wish on Prismo that Fionna and Cake's world becomes a part of the multiverse proper, and since everyone gets one wish, and we know Prismo couldn't bring Betty back for Simon, he's probably owed one. I think that would have tied everything up a bit better, and it would have paid off Prismo saying he thought he could do something just before Simon and the girls started jumping realities in the first place.

MANNNN it WOULD have been cool if some people became magical and other people chose to remain as their city-selves

Love the use of a dandelion You know the meaning of blowing an dandelion

I think the main reason its flawed is because they didnt know if season 2 would come to pass, so they thought to try and give it a decent end incase but leave it open

My immediate thought when Jay and Destiny asked to stay was wondering what happened to Jay’s family. We never had any follow up on if Farmworld Finn died or not plus the fates of his siblings were left up in the air.

I'd like to think that the seemingly underbaked finale is just a gateway for future seasons, with certain setups and unanswered questions. fingers crossed that's the case

The book that Shermy/Simon read in the future is actually written by himself. Simon says explicitly "The Simon of this reality also wrote a book about antique artifacts". Its just probably that our Simon later in his life after the incident with Golbetty wrote that book knowing that 1000+ years in the future Shermy/Simon would read it.

Im so glad they had Casper and Nova to develop Simon!

Would’ve been nice if Farmworld Finn and the others came. Also I wonder how Simon would’ve reacted to meeting a version of Betty that was driven mad by the crown instead.

Thank you! You literally voiced every thought I had on the finale myself. Simon's arc was great, but Fionna and Cake's was. . .fun, but problematic. I think I would have felt differently if we saw a few people changing their forms in the background, and the ending montage showed a mishmash of human versions of familiar characters and others who had opted to become their more magical versions (like, I can understand Fern staying human, but I would have loved to have seen BMO running around as their. . . non-inanimate appliance self), and then the implications of Jay's abandoning his family is chilling at best. : /

this show is a relief for the soul

I think this ending shines more like a season finale rather than a series finale.

I'm really glad you had the same thoughts I had. The ending bothered me with how no one else got a choice except for her and cake. Why would cake be the only magical being? What about other animals? Other people? What about the people they took the magic from? Did they revert back or are they just perpetually a normal object forever? Also, I understand what they were doing with Scarab- but I kinda wish he got some sort of redemption or at least make us feel like he deserved one. I don't see what's wrong with wanting to do your job and do it right and being frustrated that everyone else is just letting Fionna and Cake hop around killing people. It's so frustrating to have a well liked coworker that can get away with anything but you do what you're suppose to and you're seen as stuck up. You start doing what they're doing and everyone calls you out for it...but people seriously didn't care that Prismo was just ignoring his duties and putting universes in danger?.. I don't like that they didn't touch on that at all. The ending super bothered me when the farmworld teens show up and just- stay?? Like you said, what about Finn? Jay's siblings? Are we going to get a reboot in this universe where baby Finn tries to make the world magic again? I didn't like that they were "sent to help" but didn't really do much. It felt rushed and I haven't been able to put my finger much on why besides the loose ends that I noticed or the things they decided to gloss over. I believe they left it open for a series where maybe they explore different universes per season. I refuse to believe they just forgot about these open ends. I overall understand that not everything can be magical and that sometimes you need to come to terms in your own life to be happy and stay grounded but when you know magical worlds actually exist I feel like it would make it kind of hard to want to let go entirely of those fantasies.

Jay doesn't seem sad, so that sorta implies Finn isn't dead

I feel like a way to easily fix the problem with the finale would be for a lot of the characters to become magical if they want in the dandelion scene, and for them to fight back together. Then, in the montage they could show Simon hanging out with Marcy and jays family all chilling in Fionna world.

I'm not going to lie, I was a little disappointed that Prismo's back-up wasn't OG Finn and Huntress Wizard to tag team with Fionna and Cake to curbstomp the Scarab.

I feel like the last episode was written in that way to simultaneously have potential for a season two if fans demanded it enough while also giving an okay bittersweet ending if there isn’t a chance to get one

honestly, on top of being a fun callback, sending simon to the future confirms she doesnt experience time linearly so she has had to sit with an infinite understanding of their situation while watching their time together over and over again with her ex banging on her door for twelve years while he has every opportunity to use the life she Gave him to take care of himself and those around him better, and the end of the show is just that.. getting a little better one day at a time. Goddamn i love this show

YES, I had to go to work after finishing the show and all this was the only thing I could think of!

that flame prince and fern, i'll be looking for lots of fanart in the near future

I'm really satisfied with this conclusion. And if this is where the series ends i'm happy with that too.

i sobbed when i saw that Simon and Fiona could still talk to one another via text. i genuinely didn't expect so it broke me lmao

i really dont know what more you could possibly want from an ending, like it was such an amazing conclusion

yesss love the end and love your videos

Fionna & cake... it has a lot of potential but it kinda feels clunky in comparison to Adventure Time. There were some great ideas that just needed a little more time to breathe and focus.

Im just saying the promotion and soundtrack says its season 1

With how eager this show has been to show blood, and how Farmworld Finn didn’t have so much as a stain on his hat, I feel like that makes it most likely he got a concussion more than anything. Maybe his hat has padding or something And besides, it’s like Little Destiny says, they have working toilets, they kinda just wanna enjoy this functioning world while they can

Rebecca Sugar casually never knowing how to write a satisfying finale trend continues

I think Fionna and Cake's ending feels underwhelming is because Simon's crushed our feelings. They both have their problems, but Simon's one had been prepared for years and a ton of episodes. Fionna and Cake... we know them only for ten episodes. We don’t have time to create an ending on the long run. We need someghubg effective. And what is effective? A big fight between the protagonist and the antagonist. We came back to what was Adventure Time in the first place: a fun adventure with a great hero against a scary bad guy. Personally, I really appreciate Fionna's ending. Because I relate more to her than Simon? Because the trope of "fantasy is not what you need" talks to me more than "don’t let your partner sacrifice themselves all the time for you"? Maybe. But it's a normal, fun, ending. An ending fitting what Fionna and Cake had been during these ten episodes. (And I really like Scarab's ending too because I felt bad for him the whole show. He was just doing his job!)

I assumed Jay and Destiny showing up meant that Finn survived and is with his siblings. Jay and Destiny just are now exploring on their own is all.

Look. I take J & LD appearing in Fionna world as a confirmation that Farm Finn ain’t dead. He would probably have stayed if FF died, and probably would have said something like “after my dad died…”. Also, he was “impaled” with no blood? While wearing a vampire resistant hat. He’s fine.

I really like the idea that what it means to be canon is for the magic of a universe to be broadly distributed. Kind of says death of the author stuff, like "what is improtant and real about this work is what matters to the fans".

Marcy and Simon should have had 1 finale scene

I'm confused why everyone thinks farm world finn died. This series hasn't been shy about showing blood, yet when he was "impaled" there wasn't even a drop. Also I'm sure jay would be a lot more upset and not leave his siblings if his dad had just died😂

Thank fuck. Someone finally acknowledging some of the strange narrative choices about Fiona and cakes ending. I’ve been seeing so much content on how awesome and perfect Simons arc was and how they loved him and Betty’s ending and that’s awesome, I love seeing that stuff but I’ve been waiting soooo long for someone to actually acknowledge the rest of the ending and share my feelings about it.

Loved this and can't wait For more

I feel like they could've done so much more with Fionna in terms of character development/existential horror, but they stuck too closely to making her arc parallel Simon's, even when it didn't always make sense for her/her world's lore.

I think Flame prince and Fern are cute. So far I like the fan name for female Fern which is Flora!

First…also love your videos they always make me laugh keep up the good work 💛

I felt like we needed one more episode!! 😢

i feel like it should have still ended with their world becoming magic again, would be really cool to see.

This show felt like it was ending just as it was starting

I really hope we get more. This one season was so, *so* damn good I need more.

Considering that this is a show that accepts blood and gore, when Finn was "impaled" in the head, there was no blood.

i genuinely think this series was supposed to be just about simon, but the executives wanted a fionna and cake series. so they're kind of an after thought

I kinda disagree with how you feel about Fionna and Cake's end. The idea is that they want all this magic and adventure and stuff, but they didn't understand that all that magic comes hand in hand with tragedy, war, and death. There is no perfect wonderful magic universe where you can fight monsters and stuff. All of Adventure Time was showing us how the world of season 1 was far more complex and tragic than we thought.

Thank you for saying the exact flaw and questions of the finale.

I'm staying with the thought that Jay staying in fionna world pretty much confirms that farmworld finn survived. I'm 100% sure he wouldn't leave his siblings alone if their dad died.

I do admit Simon getting into Shermy's body is...probably the most random thing to do. It's welcome and fits AT well, but it sure creates this accidential nightmare fuel of him hijacking a young kid's body via GOLBetty, like...yeah. With that said, I honestly find Fiona and Cake's arc satisfactory, though. Anyways, time to go back simping for Puertorican Hunter. They're hot.

I think we can all agree that Simon’s arc was perfect. I can appreciate the choices book, b/c, even if the viewer didn’t need it spelled out for them, Simon did. He needed to realize that the imbalance in their relationship is what led to these outcomes. Also, I kinda wish the denizens of Fionna World got their memories of the magic back. Let them all realize that their dreams were in fact part memory, & let them see how they were. This creates a unique situation where everyone would get to choose what they want to be when Fionna makes her wish. Like Cake, they could choose to be magic & change to those forms, or choose to stay normal & keep living as they were. For people like Marshall, this would be a good option. It would also show that their world is now something new. It’s not Prismo’s fanfic, nor the de-magiced world they were forced into. It’s a mix & its own thing.

This is the earliest I have been to a video

I was mad about jay and LD abandoning jays orphaned siblings, but my head cannon is jays willingness to leave his family is proof that farm finn is still around to take care of them

To be honest, I'm not entirely sure how Simon's two lessons mesh: learning to find a reason to live and that his relationship with Betty was slightly unhealthy. Both are good lessons, but do they sync with each other? Also, I like only one thing about Farm World staying here. "You have real toilets here". What a silly dumb joke, yet a simple practical acknowledgment that while we can dream of adventure, ordinary life has unquestionable advantage, like safety and comfort.

Season 2 is the dream

“I’m gonna rewatch this show for the rest of my life”PRETTY MUCH

Great video