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Saberspark

Saberspark

Жыл бұрын

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@vinnythewebsurfer
@vinnythewebsurfer Жыл бұрын
One hell of a book having to learn back in school. “All animals are equals but some are more equal”
@Funnypants
@Funnypants Жыл бұрын
"Four legs good, two legs better!"
@OZARKS08
@OZARKS08 Жыл бұрын
NO ANIMAL SHALL SLEEP IN A BED! with sheets
@Bluejoltyt
@Bluejoltyt Жыл бұрын
NO ANIMAL SHALL DRINK ALCOHOL!! to access…
@rockythepiratequeen
@rockythepiratequeen Жыл бұрын
All animals are born equal but some are born more equal than others.... dang now that's a quote!!!
@Crimsonlee2XX
@Crimsonlee2XX Жыл бұрын
NO ANIMAL SHALL KILL ANOTHER ANIMAL Without just cause…
@mrchoochooguy4045
@mrchoochooguy4045 Жыл бұрын
Just for an idea of how dark this story is In the original novel, not sure about the film (haven't watched it yet) Boxer (the horse mentioned here) worked so hard for the pigs (the tyrants) that he injured himself so hard he needed early retirement (edit: just remembered from a comment, he was kept working well past his promised retirement by the pigs, so probably more a late retirement). The pigs instead sent him to be killed and turned into glue, to get money to buy some more beer for themselves.
@davispo7550
@davispo7550 Жыл бұрын
I've read that he's supposed to represent either A) Manual labourers (who are not sufficiently cared for by the state) B) China (who became communist shortly after the book's writing and whose radical fervour later caused widespread famine and hardship) [unlikely as all these events happened after publication, but it's interesting given the 1900 Boxer rebellion there and parallels with Maoist China and Stalinist USSR]
@snakewithapen5489
@snakewithapen5489 Жыл бұрын
​@Davis Po most likely laborers who pledge themselves to a state that they will not see a return from before they die. Boxer is an interesting name coincidence though
@LumaMars
@LumaMars Жыл бұрын
@@davispo7550 Boxer and clover were meant to represent the middle class workers of society Clover a middle class working woman and mother And Boxer a hard working man for his country
@Grimfang999
@Grimfang999 Жыл бұрын
@@LumaMars Its a little more than this. He represents the working class yes, but much more specifically he represented the ideological spirit of socialism. A single-minded devotion to the people and community around themselves, inspiring all others around them to be better people and ensure each others wellbeing. Even in injury he fought on, all the way until he collapsed, staggering through even as things got worse. Upon his execution, there was nothing left of the socialist ideal, only a state of slaves to a new master.
@MelonHere20
@MelonHere20 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I remember that! I read the whole book but I only ever watched a little bit of the film
@b_crystals
@b_crystals 7 ай бұрын
“The animals looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again, but it was already impossible to tell which was which”
@Lady-T3A
@Lady-T3A 2 ай бұрын
My class just got done reading the book but good God that paragraph still sticks with me. The pigs, who they were meant to look up to and respect more than anyone, only for them to turn on them and become the very thing that they were meant to fight against to the point they the pigs and humans don't even have that many differences.
@toastboast1368
@toastboast1368 Жыл бұрын
Boxer and Benjamin were my fav characters, so I was honestly sad for Benjamin that he had no best friend anymore lol.
@user-xu2yq1zd6t
@user-xu2yq1zd6t Жыл бұрын
if you watch the movie boxer works so hard only to get injured and basically no rest
@fuzzywheezledoodlers
@fuzzywheezledoodlers Ай бұрын
Bro I so loved Mollie and Snowball, too bad they were both ditched early on
@bensspaceagency4606
@bensspaceagency4606 Жыл бұрын
“...And they looked from man to pig, and from pig to man, and from man to pig again and could not tell which was which.” (Kinda paraphrased)
@s7robin105
@s7robin105 Жыл бұрын
In short, the pigs (Soviet Leaders) were the same type of evil as the farmers (capitalists) and so a new revolution was needed to once again free the animals (workers) and create a alternative (This is where Orwell's libertarian socialist Ideals come in)
@blademaster4361
@blademaster4361 Жыл бұрын
You know the revolution took a wrong turn when you can't tell the difference between the communist and the capitalist
@zackbuildit88
@zackbuildit88 Жыл бұрын
​@@blademaster4361 when both sides become authoritarian, does the extremism they pick even matter?
@blademaster4361
@blademaster4361 Жыл бұрын
@@zackbuildit88 Make no mistake, authoritarianism doesn't come from both sides. The goal of the Russian Revolution was not to create the Soviet Union, it was to create a society of equals, whatever that would have looked like. Unfortunately, getting there from scratch is a tricky business
@zackbuildit88
@zackbuildit88 Жыл бұрын
@@blademaster4361 authoritarianism is an independent but related feature of nation to its economic policies. At the peak of the cold war, both Russia and the United States were highly authoritarian despite having directly opposite economic policies, simply because taking either system to the theoretical extreme requires authoritarianism in some capacity
@Jirwemthegreat
@Jirwemthegreat Жыл бұрын
This cartoon was actually my first exposure to Orwell.
@Ivegotsomewater81
@Ivegotsomewater81 Жыл бұрын
Mine was the 1984 novel. I loved it
@Shortyginger
@Shortyginger Жыл бұрын
Same here
@MP_POLO
@MP_POLO Жыл бұрын
same
@MorbSquad420
@MorbSquad420 Жыл бұрын
Same
@magicdawn1973
@magicdawn1973 Жыл бұрын
Mine was the 1984 novel, which was boring and confusing at the time so I actually never finished it
@Cybersaurus5783
@Cybersaurus5783 Жыл бұрын
My history teacher played this in class and im pretty sure 70% percent of the entire class was traumatized
@mariaf.v.dossantos2593
@mariaf.v.dossantos2593 9 ай бұрын
I like your history teacher 😂 Just today my class had a debate over this book in class, our teacher asked us to discuss it
@Bitterwarp
@Bitterwarp 7 ай бұрын
Well my teacher hasn’t played it but i seen 6th or 7th grade do freaking projects about that movie so im in 5th my innocence will die soon
@Patriot2814
@Patriot2814 6 ай бұрын
Why even would she💀
@Cybersaurus5783
@Cybersaurus5783 6 ай бұрын
@@Patriot2814 *he
@nathanodonovan6708
@nathanodonovan6708 Жыл бұрын
Orwell was himself a socialist, but he was also anti-authoritarian. His issue was mostly with Stalinism and the perversion of communist ideals following the Russian Revolution, rather than being anti-Communist as an ideology.
@Casual-Yohoho-Enjoyer
@Casual-Yohoho-Enjoyer Жыл бұрын
Isn't that impressive how throughout history we've created so many ideas that could be heaven and turned them all into hell? Monarchy, socialism, capitalism, they're all so perfect on paper but the moment you add humans to the equation it all goes downhill
@dandydanthedapperman7797
@dandydanthedapperman7797 Жыл бұрын
@@Casual-Yohoho-Enjoyer yep, that’s why every scifi ever has the robots decide to murder humanity. Even if we did create ai to run the world, the programmers would take advantage of it. It’s deal with the government you ended up getting because the grass is always greener(can vary)
@Taschip
@Taschip Жыл бұрын
Not based
@comrademax5302
@comrademax5302 Жыл бұрын
Orwell worked with the british government to imprison other socialists
@pellabologna
@pellabologna 10 ай бұрын
​@Casual-Yohoho-Enjoyer lol 2 of those are totally dysfunctional on paper, because they both cannot truly be democratic and serve the interests of the people. Capital always will sway over voting, and monarchies don't allow it. Capitalist hierarchies are akin to monarchies but built around finance. Socialism is the democratization of everything.
@REDACTEDbox
@REDACTEDbox Жыл бұрын
i read the book in high school, i had no idea they made it into a legitimate animated film
@leatherfoot11
@leatherfoot11 Жыл бұрын
I watched the abimated film back in high school.
@jacobcox4565
@jacobcox4565 Жыл бұрын
They also made a live action adaptation.
@choreani
@choreani Жыл бұрын
Not only an animated film, but a live action one too And dang they are both damning
@MrGamelover23
@MrGamelover23 Жыл бұрын
My class got to experience both.
@henryca03
@henryca03 Жыл бұрын
The live action version had Kelsey Grammar and Patrick Stewart as part of the voice cast, voicing Snowball and Napoleon respectively.
@lulufan100
@lulufan100 Жыл бұрын
The only part that absolutely terrified me as a kid was the pigs starting to walk. It just felt so wrong and unnatural
@Jangobadass
@Jangobadass Жыл бұрын
That's the point, bro.
@lulufan100
@lulufan100 Жыл бұрын
I know lol, it worked
@AnarchoTak
@AnarchoTak Жыл бұрын
it's CIA propaganda
@s7robin105
@s7robin105 Жыл бұрын
@@Jangobadass Its not the point for it to feel unnatural its meant to show the leaders becoming as corrupt as what they replaced.
@s7robin105
@s7robin105 Жыл бұрын
@@AnarchoTak Its BAD propaganda because it never says the capitalists (farmers) were right or better. It merely states a new better revolution is needed. They never go back to the farmers in the book or movie
@verminsupreme6801
@verminsupreme6801 Жыл бұрын
It’s very disingenuous to merely call it an anti communism psyop. Animal farm isn’t a criticism of communism, it is a criticism of authoritarianism. If anything, it promotes socialism as its critiques of authoritarianism can be applied to un checked capitalism and corporatism.
@michaelmartinek7408
@michaelmartinek7408 Жыл бұрын
If anything, it follows stalinism closer than communism, but yes, you are 100% right.
@gutgunstig7061
@gutgunstig7061 Жыл бұрын
I think people ignore the fact that in the beginning, the animals "free" themselves from an oppressive sytsem. Were the humans also a metaphor for communism? Maybe they represent another system that is bad, that usually comes before the revolution?
@lucker6181
@lucker6181 Жыл бұрын
No. It doesnt promote socialism lmao
@michaelmartinek7408
@michaelmartinek7408 Жыл бұрын
@@lucker6181 $10 says you can't define socialism. Btw George Orwell was a socialist.
@comrademax5302
@comrademax5302 Жыл бұрын
​@@michaelmartinek7408 does a socialist rat on his comrades to the british government?
@candlestixsmixedwithtrixs
@candlestixsmixedwithtrixs Жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness I remember my sister finding this in the kids section of the library when we were in elementary. We were watching it at night before we went to bed, and when Snowball’s death scene started happening, I started screaming and crying so bad. I have no idea how that movie made its way into the kids section, but that thing did not need to go ahead and freak my poor younger self like that.
@redline1916
@redline1916 Жыл бұрын
Regardless of the CIA being involved, it definitely has some awareness towards more than just communism.
@dansmith1661
@dansmith1661 Жыл бұрын
The CIA will support Communists to defeat Democratically elected leaders.
@fabioviti7384
@fabioviti7384 Жыл бұрын
stalinism*
@casperheath5672
@casperheath5672 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering what the CIA had to do with it, I read and watched the story, and I was certain it was only based off the revolution. Was I not getting something from the movie? Cause the book definitely didn't have ties into the CIA.
@SOAVGaming
@SOAVGaming Жыл бұрын
@@casperheath5672 this short definitely didn't have much insight to the actual political beliefs of Orwell. It's probably in his mind and fair to assume that Orwell was a anti-communist and this work was anti-communist in nature because it came out around the cold-war, but like all works of Orwell the leading theme is always "the righteous revolution went bad because a tyrant took over" this is because Orwell wasn't a anti-communist, but rather a Anarchistic Communist who hated the Soviet Union and authoritarian communism. It's strange honestly how this was allowed to be produced given that fact, since it's implied that before the revolution things were just the same level of suffering. But Ayn Rand managed to get a film based on her books shown in Mussolini's Italy, history doesn't have to be believable.
@casperheath5672
@casperheath5672 Жыл бұрын
@@SOAVGaming thank you
@UltimateDragonX9999
@UltimateDragonX9999 Жыл бұрын
Craziest thing about this film is that it came out in 1954, the same year the very first Godzilla film released In Japan.
@thedrewster0408
@thedrewster0408 Жыл бұрын
Also I think this was also the first animated film made in Britain.
@thelegendaryarceus5618
@thelegendaryarceus5618 7 ай бұрын
​@@thedrewster0408no, it isn't. However, it's the first British animated movie to gain an international release
@DatDrawingKid011
@DatDrawingKid011 2 ай бұрын
@@thelegendaryarceus5618Then what was the first?
@thelegendaryarceus5618
@thelegendaryarceus5618 2 ай бұрын
@@DatDrawingKid011 Dolly's Toys, made in 1901
@Crux___
@Crux___ Жыл бұрын
Bro my class practically begged our English teacher to put this on after we finished reading the book. We basically spent the whole 2 hour period watching it, good times
@1234JohnstoneStudios
@1234JohnstoneStudios Жыл бұрын
My mum actually put this on for me to watch for History class last year, and once it finished, I was just sitting there, trying to comprehend what I just witnessed
@spaghetti5914
@spaghetti5914 Жыл бұрын
I remember being 7 and my parents getting this movie for me, thinking it was a kid's cartoon. The scene with the horse traumatized me for years. I don't know how, but my 7 year old self believed that the horse was gonna be sent to be executed, skinned alive and turned into food for the pigs. Maybe a mistranslation in my language's dub made it more gruesome sounding(if it even was dubbed, I may have simply sat down and tried to understand the plot while the movie was in English)
@willausterman3104
@willausterman3104 Жыл бұрын
I mean he was boiled and turned into glue so you were not too far off
@genericname2747
@genericname2747 Жыл бұрын
Another victim of parents assuming an animated animal movie is kid friendly.
@arturoaguilar6002
@arturoaguilar6002 Жыл бұрын
@@willausterman3104 And the pigs got whisky in exchange, so it was very close to the same thing with extra steps.
@TankswillRule
@TankswillRule Жыл бұрын
I was traumatized by The brave little toaster and Osmosis Jones. Both i been told are not scary.. lol
@genericname2747
@genericname2747 Жыл бұрын
@@TankswillRule Those people are wrong. They're super scary
@arturoaguilar6002
@arturoaguilar6002 Жыл бұрын
I find hilarious that the cartoon creators felt that the pigs moving into the human's house, walking on two legs and being fully clothed was way too subtle to get the point across; so they had the pigs' faces literally morph into human faces for a moment at the end. XD
@GreebleClown
@GreebleClown Жыл бұрын
That’s directly from the book: the animals looking through the window looked from man to pig to man and couldn’t tell the difference. The End. (Seriously, that’s the ending.)
@ein_blinde_Nashorn
@ein_blinde_Nashorn Жыл бұрын
That’s literally what happened under communistic rule in Russia. They weren’t liberators, they were just as tyrannical as the previous governments.
@vasconcelos7356
@vasconcelos7356 Жыл бұрын
That's straight from the book tho
@hannibalburgers477
@hannibalburgers477 Жыл бұрын
That horse being sent to de camp: 😏😏😏
@cmendoza1094
@cmendoza1094 Жыл бұрын
It’s for children and those with infantile minds. They are the ones we need to teach and protect
@nuyabuisness7526
@nuyabuisness7526 Жыл бұрын
Kids in school are really given books like this, and 1984 and still come out thinking communism is a good idea.
@guardianofthehill
@guardianofthehill 2 ай бұрын
Simple Ametican dualist thinking. The American kids grow up in a hyper-capitalist system of greed and decadence, grow disillusioned with it, but then, because they grew up in America, where everything is turned into a dualist good-bad divide, they started to support Communism because in the hyper-capitalist system, Communism was the boogeyman. So when they start to consider Capitalism the boogeyman, the "bad" option, they start to believe that Communism is the "good option". Despite the fact that both hyper-capitalism and communism are bad options. All this, just because political nuance doesn't really exist in America, just Us vs Them nonsense. Really frustrates me as a German when I see ignorant Americans start to support Communism or Fascism simply because "But other side worse!"
@nightmarexgaming120
@nightmarexgaming120 2 ай бұрын
Orwell was literally a socialist. The antagonist of the books isn’t communism its authoritarianism. Animal Farm is a critique of how Stalin run the USSR. 1984 is about warning of the dangers of the lives of the people being controlled by the state.
@mr_eclipse5774
@mr_eclipse5774 Жыл бұрын
I’ve spent an entire semester learning this for ELA, seeing SaberSpark cover this madness would be amazing.
@cmendoza1094
@cmendoza1094 Жыл бұрын
What’s ELA
@mr_eclipse5774
@mr_eclipse5774 Жыл бұрын
@@cmendoza1094English language arts or something like that.
@timesnewlogan2032
@timesnewlogan2032 Жыл бұрын
Friendly reminder that Snowball would have been only MILDLY better than Napoleon, according to Orwell himself.
@Noperare
@Noperare Жыл бұрын
Considering Snowball represents Trotsky, the only reason he is praised is because he didn't got the chance to commit all the atrocities that would be inevitable for the Soviet Union.
@timesnewlogan2032
@timesnewlogan2032 Жыл бұрын
@@Noperare Exactly. Animal Farm is one of the largest causes of the “Clean Trotsky” myth, despite Orwell’s own words.
@fabioviti7384
@fabioviti7384 Жыл бұрын
I mean, orwell was an anarchist/socialist; he didn't liked the soviet union in general because he got fucked up in Spain since Stalin refused to help. tho we should remember that, historically speaking, troski is leagues above Stalin in basically everything and wouldn't have been a dictator, doesn't matter what orwell said
@timesnewlogan2032
@timesnewlogan2032 Жыл бұрын
@@fabioviti7384 I wouldn't be so sure. His ideals of Permanent Revolution likely would have kicked off a world war to spread the revolution, and who knows how many more would have died as a result?
@unaihmg9352
@unaihmg9352 Жыл бұрын
Well Orwell was a terrible human being here us an Orwell quote on Hitler: 'I should like to put it on record that I have never been able to dislike Hitler. Ever since he came to power "
@Tevildo
@Tevildo Жыл бұрын
1954? I though it was from the 70's. Even more impressive technically, in that case.
@snerttt
@snerttt Жыл бұрын
Yeah it cost about $4 million (with inflation)
@pootislord3112
@pootislord3112 Жыл бұрын
sweet CIA propaganda money
@jr2904
@jr2904 Жыл бұрын
​@@pootislord3112 this propaganda served a great purpose
@pootislord3112
@pootislord3112 Жыл бұрын
@@jr2904 Of spreading propaganda?
@peteynutt4104
@peteynutt4104 Жыл бұрын
​@@pootislord3112 Orwell is not propoganda
@justinbhardwaj1467
@justinbhardwaj1467 Жыл бұрын
This video is the first time I had ever heard about animal farm, now I have read the entire book, and watched the movie, and I just want to say thanks for introducing me to a great book and even better author l! 😊
@Reginald_Ritmo
@Reginald_Ritmo Жыл бұрын
The funniest part is that George Orwell was a Social Democrat. A lot of people took the books message further than Orwell hoped, including the movie team.
@wolfae2837
@wolfae2837 Жыл бұрын
He wasn’t a social Democrat, he was a full socialist. He just hated the USSR because it wasn’t the proper form of socialism in his eyes because it was authoritarian. He criticized capitalism just as much. He fought for the Republicans during the Spanish Civil War, alongside communists and anarchists (the political kind that wants communal support not the super villain kind)
@picollojr9009
@picollojr9009 Жыл бұрын
​@@wolfae2837 it never is propper yet it always turns out the same way
@wolfae2837
@wolfae2837 Жыл бұрын
@@picollojr9009 That's just historically ignorant. Just because things have been a way, doesn't mean it can only be that way. Effectively, what Orwell and others are pushing for is a completely different ideology, just with a similar name. The US or USSR stopped any non-USSR nation from coming around
@bullrun2772
@bullrun2772 Жыл бұрын
I guess your just your just being abitch
@bullrun2772
@bullrun2772 Жыл бұрын
@@wolfae2837 hated it because it was communist
@flywashere
@flywashere Жыл бұрын
When I was in high-school they had me watch this in my history class. We were all shocked because we never seen a cartoon this graphic and dark. The history teacher I had was closing his eyes constantly and then started crying in horror. Especially when the dogs kill the farm animals and they had the bloody writing. My teacher said it was just as Fucking dark as the hands in the 1930 all quiet as the western front Edit:he was also constantly apologizing for show this movie to us. Even though we were watching it for educational purposes. 2nd Edit:he actually did swear when we finished it
@TheRockyCrowe
@TheRockyCrowe Жыл бұрын
I had the same experience in middle school 😂, this movie was one of the first memorable experiences I had seeing animation used to depict such unfiltered brutality. And with anthro characters on top of that. It inspired me to appreciate the art form even more. Also led me down the rabbit hole of Orwellian fiction. Lol
@TheFreakJessie
@TheFreakJessie Жыл бұрын
I also watch it too. Except we watch it in senior year and that was around the beginning of Covid.
@djaccountisbfisbx3880
@djaccountisbfisbx3880 Жыл бұрын
Are you sure you aren’t mistaking this movie for a different one? I watched it recently and I don’t think Animal Farm movie or book are dark to the point where it could be compared to All Quiet on the Western Front.
@Hdrgnprxd
@Hdrgnprxd Жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, where are you from? I remember my dad showing me this when I was twelve and while it impressed me quite a lot I didn't found it that disturbing at all. Same when two years later I was reading the book for school and my class was rewatching the movie and it didn't disturbed anyone. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I live in a post soviet country and by that age kids just strug it as "yup, it matches what our parents told us"
@joecope9935
@joecope9935 Жыл бұрын
@@Hdrgnprxd Yeah. People who are already wet are less bothered by the rain. For a lot of kids growing up in a wealthy suburban neighborhood or in some small rural town in the USA, it's pretty shocking to be confronted with the reality of how hard life can be in other places in the world or in other times in history.
@momozimunya4015
@momozimunya4015 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Disney was scared to make adaptation about it
@maevblog9955
@maevblog9955 Жыл бұрын
Would disney actually do that?
@revolvency
@revolvency Жыл бұрын
As it should
@guilhermeteodosio40
@guilhermeteodosio40 Жыл бұрын
Well, they weren't scared of making racist depictions of asians, indians and blacks though💀
@maevblog9955
@maevblog9955 Жыл бұрын
@@guilhermeteodosio40 Disney regrets that now
@guilhermeteodosio40
@guilhermeteodosio40 Жыл бұрын
@@maevblog9955 they should
@amfvideos6810
@amfvideos6810 Жыл бұрын
The book was one of the best books i've ever read, truly enlightening
@justsomeguywithamustach
@justsomeguywithamustach Жыл бұрын
I remember this book when i read it in school they called their government "animalism" and my friend said it should be called "bestiality"
@Gamma5232
@Gamma5232 Жыл бұрын
Read it a few years ago. An excellent book about the dangers of authoritarianism, and how it can evolve out of something good.
@dansmith1661
@dansmith1661 Жыл бұрын
It was never something good. It was a foreign group who undermined a country and killed it leader.
@anubisgodofdeath420
@anubisgodofdeath420 Жыл бұрын
I remember reading and researching this book as a project for middle school, it really impacted my perspective of the world after reading it
@divebombexpert2619
@divebombexpert2619 Жыл бұрын
I had a similar thing with 1984.
@kyubeycoobie3568
@kyubeycoobie3568 Жыл бұрын
That's literally why the CIA made this movie Literally the purpose and effect of propaganda
@melonsauce1474
@melonsauce1474 Жыл бұрын
The story of the horse is what some people go through in the US.
@CavemanCrafts86
@CavemanCrafts86 Жыл бұрын
​@@kyubeycoobie3568he's talking about the book, not the movie. Besides, Orwell was proven 100% right.
@Fresh_Mayo_Productions
@Fresh_Mayo_Productions 8 ай бұрын
Me and my dad read this book recently, we liked it and we were wondering if there was a movie about it. I guess that there is! Thank you!
@madgoat2125
@madgoat2125 Жыл бұрын
holy dhit he actually covered it my friends are all obsessed with keeping the fandom for it alive im scared blease help
@_BubblGum_
@_BubblGum_ Жыл бұрын
lmao
@madgoat2125
@madgoat2125 Жыл бұрын
@@_BubblGum_ please help me
@gircakes2
@gircakes2 11 ай бұрын
Dude I loved the book when I read it for school in middle school. Makes me feel less weird knowing there is a fandom for it.
@nightmarexgaming120
@nightmarexgaming120 2 ай бұрын
I don’t think fans of George Orwell are going away anytime soon
@MorbSquad420
@MorbSquad420 Жыл бұрын
I read the book & watched the movie in high school. It's a really good book & I highly recommend it
@memerindisguise
@memerindisguise Жыл бұрын
Ikr and boxer god done dirty
@wyren925
@wyren925 Жыл бұрын
you have just re-awakened my childhood memory and trauma of this movie thx, love your vids
@Kehman86
@Kehman86 Жыл бұрын
Same
@El_Pendrive.
@El_Pendrive. Жыл бұрын
I have this book! It's amazing, I can't recommend it enough
@enderbragen1659
@enderbragen1659 Жыл бұрын
Man I remember this book... it was dark but it did its job
@NarfoOnTheNet
@NarfoOnTheNet Жыл бұрын
I remember talking to my mother about this. She insisted on saying "it's just talking animals" Btw I have read the book. Twice.
@hedge1247
@hedge1247 Жыл бұрын
Can't believe this was so popular George Orwell made a book about it
@spudgebeethoven6495
@spudgebeethoven6495 Жыл бұрын
Bro this was such a good book. It took me a while to get through, but the ending was such a shock. Totally worth the time though. I honestly don't think I would have read this if I was in public school growing up. This is one reason I'm really glad I was homeschooled.
@tutorialtime403
@tutorialtime403 8 күн бұрын
Our 3rd grade teacher showed us this movie in class,she said it was a FUN HAPPY MOVIE WITH WHOLESOME MESSAGES!The next parent teacher meeting was chaos 😂
@Silverstonegamergirl
@Silverstonegamergirl Жыл бұрын
I read this book in middle school and we were shown a live action movie (though it had a different ending) I feel like it would’ve been more effective if we as middle schoolers knew about the rise of the communism and Russia and the Soviet Union but it wasn’t really well taught other than “USA good ussr bad”. All I know is that scene of them tricking the horse into thinking he was going to a hospital instead of a glue factory will forever haunt me…
@Anonymous_Individual
@Anonymous_Individual Жыл бұрын
Same thing happened here! Although we were given history lessons about soviet Russia at the same time so it made a lot more sense.
@Carmiineh
@Carmiineh Жыл бұрын
Well USA it's not great either compared xD
@handsomeboi3767
@handsomeboi3767 Жыл бұрын
How else could they have explained it to you guys? The ussr was a fascist dictatorship.
@Carmiineh
@Carmiineh Жыл бұрын
@@handsomeboi3767 Not facist, but a dictatorship of the proletariat. A fascist dictatorship was Nazist German. Not surprised that you got confused x)
@dylanroemmele906
@dylanroemmele906 Жыл бұрын
@@Carmiineh Nazi Germany was not Fascist, it was National Socialist. The german NatSoc was created in 1919, Mussolini’s Fascists came about in 1921. There are little similarities between the 2.
@j.h.5277
@j.h.5277 Жыл бұрын
Honestly the story had legs regardless of the CIAs involvement.
@shorewall
@shorewall Жыл бұрын
It's a story that everyone should hear, because it applies to more than just communism.
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
Because its regardless from orwella very outspoken socialist. Even why its a fable is probably to avoid censorship of the red scare, as "just an animal fable and totally kiddie stuff"
@Daniel-wy2kx
@Daniel-wy2kx Жыл бұрын
@@marocat4749 it’s literally a critique of communism and Stalinism, there’s no way it was getting censored by the US
@melonsauce1474
@melonsauce1474 Жыл бұрын
​@@Daniel-wy2kx Its funny that a lot of the issues pointed out are present in capitalism.
@melonsauce1474
@melonsauce1474 Жыл бұрын
​@@shorewall capitalism? I mean no one's retiring at the age they expect and billionaires have all the power and resources.
@BBPapercraftII
@BBPapercraftII 11 ай бұрын
I have seen this movie for a school project since we have read the Animal Farm book, definetly surprised me, and was not was I was expecting, especially with the different ending
@chaoswithinoneaxolotl6567
@chaoswithinoneaxolotl6567 Жыл бұрын
Let’s go- I’m reading the book currently in my school right now and it’s really cool in my opinion. I think we might see this after reading this. I’m so excited
@saborevolutionarychief6458
@saborevolutionarychief6458 Жыл бұрын
I remember reading Animal Farm after learning about the Russian Revolution in my history class. The irony of me reading the book in English class right after learning that. Anyways, I watched your review about the movie and everything seems pretty accurate to the book strangely…Except for the ending. I guess they wanted to give it a “good” ending despite the ending of the book being dark and bleak, trying to send a message rather than a clear conclusion.
@MachPotato
@MachPotato Жыл бұрын
That's not irony, it's coincidence. They are commonly confused. Irony is when something that when something is expected to occur, the opposite happens while coincidence is simply two similar things happening in quick succession with no clear connection
@saborevolutionarychief6458
@saborevolutionarychief6458 Жыл бұрын
@@MachPotato ….Okay? Had nothing to do with my point, but uh…Alrighty, I guess.
@MachPotato
@MachPotato Жыл бұрын
@@saborevolutionarychief6458 I just meant to correct your use of "irony" so you don't use it wrong in the future
@saborevolutionarychief6458
@saborevolutionarychief6458 Жыл бұрын
@@MachPotato Thanks for being concerned, then? I’m just confused because I wasn’t expecting a reply correcting me, but okay.
@shadoeboi212
@shadoeboi212 Жыл бұрын
the ending was changed at the behest of CIA investors
@dustinsearle4672
@dustinsearle4672 Жыл бұрын
This movie and book are awesome I have to say 1984 is the GOAT of Orwell but this is a really good quick read
@MxCheefah
@MxCheefah Жыл бұрын
Orwell was a racist, plagiarist and rapist.
@camelopardalis84
@camelopardalis84 Жыл бұрын
Orwell was a horrible man who put horrible ideas based on his horrible views in his horrible writing.
@HenrythePaleoGuy
@HenrythePaleoGuy Жыл бұрын
@@camelopardalis84 Can you explain, lol
@camelopardalis84
@camelopardalis84 Жыл бұрын
@@HenrythePaleoGuy I'd rather point you towards a video: "George Orwell was a terrible human being" by Hakim. You don't have to like him or agree all that much with his overall views to see he has a point. Well, several, actually.
@HenrythePaleoGuy
@HenrythePaleoGuy Жыл бұрын
@@camelopardalis84 That video is pretty shit. It glosses over and misrepresents a ton of his actual positions, and given he's a tankie, it's more so Hakim not liking him because Orwell hated Stalinists and by extension the USSR. The same Stalinists who sided with the fascists in Spain over the anarchists there.
@salemtyphonos
@salemtyphonos Жыл бұрын
as someone who read the book then watched the movie in 5th grade at school i can say it’s all a fever dream of red scare
@lunisangelo2148
@lunisangelo2148 Жыл бұрын
You know its shocking that I watched this movie at 6 and cant remembered anything but vivid scene and now you reminded of it completely
@tiramisudragon
@tiramisudragon Жыл бұрын
The book Animal Farm lives rent-free in my head. And I haven't read that book since high school.
@asafupps
@asafupps Жыл бұрын
Should I be concerned?
@lukewarmmess5123
@lukewarmmess5123 Жыл бұрын
My dad played this for me and my brothers when we were kids. My six year old brain was so traumatized lol
@aaron-gz
@aaron-gz Жыл бұрын
Why tho Was he political? Did he just think "oh, cartoon = kid friendly"
@andreafraustoz
@andreafraustoz Жыл бұрын
What's worse s that he dubs that scene as death camp
@ashkitt7719
@ashkitt7719 Жыл бұрын
Guessing he's MAGA now
@Very_Silly_Individual
@Very_Silly_Individual Жыл бұрын
Is your dad by any chance extremely based? Or did he just accidently show you something he should have?
@maevblog9955
@maevblog9955 Жыл бұрын
​@@aaron-gz because it is a cartoon about farm animals
@fuxkag3908
@fuxkag3908 Жыл бұрын
George Orwells Animal Farm Book was one hell of a Book "All Animals are equal but some are more equal"
@orungechiken
@orungechiken 9 күн бұрын
in the original novel, the book ends with napoleon becoming like mr jones and its just very depressing, meanwhile in the 1955 movie, benjamin upstarts a rebellion and successfully kill napoleon with a happier ending i guess 🤷‍♂️
@kitkattanimates
@kitkattanimates Жыл бұрын
This movie is honestly so wild to watch because the tone flips so abruptly. Like, one second the animals are in a goofy fight with the farmers, knocking them on their buts with silly sound effects. The next, several dead animals are bleeding out on the ground under an ominous, grey sky. It's like the movie can't decide whether it's for kids or not.
@phabiorules
@phabiorules Жыл бұрын
I haven’t see, it but could that tonal shift be intentional? Like them fighting the farmers is supposed to represent stories of glory in war being a sense of pride, while minimizing the cold reality of how terrible violence is and the cost it has? Like at a young age, Americans are taught about Washington crossing the Delaware and Americans beating the British, but we aren’t taught about how gruesome the conflict truly was. I know there is a film called “in this corner of the world” which is very similar in that despite it taking place in wartime Japan, is pretty happy until the scene about the atomic bomb.
@kitkattanimates
@kitkattanimates Жыл бұрын
@@phabiorules Possibly, but it's just so jarring either way.
@therobustempyrean1436
@therobustempyrean1436 Жыл бұрын
Okay, but a good children's story can have dark, and grim themes in it. Like C.S. Lewis said, "A children's story that can only be enjoyed by children is not a good children's story in the slightest".
@kitkattanimates
@kitkattanimates Жыл бұрын
@therobustempyrean1436 That's true, but it was still so jarring. Caught me way off guard lol. It got *really* dark sometimes, too. Like, I wouldn't want any kids under 12 seeing it.
@aiiiia9971
@aiiiia9971 Жыл бұрын
Watched this movie many times as a kid. May seem a bit much for a child but it was very insightful and educational. Human nature is scary... easier to grapple with using cartoon animals
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
I think that was when he was heavenly censored due the redscare, and orwell being very loud, outspoken socialist, so much he insulted the bureaucrats, because it was not enough. So yeah, its"just a childrens fable" for sake to bypass censorship likely. Oh animals, or animation ignored,not new. Through actually societial commentary s dealt way brutally honest in fantasy usually so , you arent wrong
@DaPeanutButter
@DaPeanutButter Жыл бұрын
There's also an album based on the book called Animals by Pink Floyd. The songs are titled Pigs on The Wing (Part 1), Dogs, Pigs (3 Different Ones), Sheep, and Pigs on The Wing (Part 2)
@torpedokai4264
@torpedokai4264 Жыл бұрын
This movie single handedly got me through 8th grade language arts when we started reading and learning about it
@lordbee5972
@lordbee5972 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, the book is NOT anti communist (or Marxist). it’s core ideals are manly anti-authoritarian, and show the dangers of allowing a group complete control over a nation.
@chey7691
@chey7691 Жыл бұрын
To keep the books on the shelf of our "free" nation of the USA, it HAD to be satire or framed as critical of things they (the feds) are paranoid about to stay on the shelves. So people usually get told it's about the "dangers" of communism, when it just features it. You aren't wrong though it's definitely anti-authoritarian at it's core, and a stab at greed for power or money in politics.
@ShiftylittleDemon
@ShiftylittleDemon Жыл бұрын
THIS I was gonna say this too, but the book isn't against communism at all The part where the pigs start to look like men is basically showing how the communist leaders became the new oppressive bourgeoise as they became more authoritarian (I think I worded that right) It was anti soviet union and stalin, not anti communist
@peteynutt4104
@peteynutt4104 Жыл бұрын
​@@ShiftylittleDemoncommunism will never work
@merchuegrandmasterthortono8159
@merchuegrandmasterthortono8159 Жыл бұрын
It is absolutely anti-Marxist. Orwell was an anticommunist bastard who gave lists of suspected radicals, especially if they were black or Jewish, to the British authorities and spent almost the entirety of World War II fearmongering about some imaginary Stalinist bogeyman when the Soviets where fighting for their lives against fascism. This book is pure anti-communist cope, and its no wonder that the animated version was made using funding from the CIA.
@MrRawrCEO
@MrRawrCEO Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately most folk who watch this (and read 1984) will just use it to reinforce whatever beliefs they already hold. And ignore how all encompassing and all important the lesson truly is.
@arhr2713
@arhr2713 Жыл бұрын
Just to be clear, animal farm was an amazing book and so is the movie
@ninetailedfox8022
@ninetailedfox8022 Жыл бұрын
I am reading it again and its shine is still intact 60 years later
@FOX1MX
@FOX1MX Жыл бұрын
I had this book in 8th grade of primary school (In Poland btw) As I was and still am a huge history fan I kinda liked it and the movie in it self is well animated. Although my classmates couldn't agree less...
@nikosnikos5082
@nikosnikos5082 Жыл бұрын
"anti-communist agenda of the cia" well that's rather insulting to Orwell
@thelegendaryarceus5618
@thelegendaryarceus5618 7 ай бұрын
He was probably talking about the movie specifically, which the C.I.A. did support as a anti-communist movie
@linkxmidna57
@linkxmidna57 Жыл бұрын
This was such a good movie and the scene where the horse was sent away was so heart-wrenching. That donkey’s tearful brays were also very sad to listen to. I’m also not a hater of the ending despite its “happier” fate.
@divebombexpert2619
@divebombexpert2619 Жыл бұрын
How come you don't hate the ending?
@SM-ys8lw
@SM-ys8lw Жыл бұрын
I haven't watch it just read it the ending was pretty dark no? I mean the pigs turned into humans, and continued there oprression of the farm
@communistskeletonpiss
@communistskeletonpiss Жыл бұрын
I love the book for it's anti-authoritarian message and advocacy for education, but i hate how it's used as anti communist propaganda. The problem with some of the "communist" revolutions was that they weren't actually communist, they used a term that more people were comfortable with to hide the fact they were actually starting more dictatorial regimes, and instead of the US pointing out the lies, they just villainized communism as well.
@TheRealNormanBates
@TheRealNormanBates Жыл бұрын
Well, it’s no different than how capitalism is villainized by wealthy Hollywood leftists, despite their capitalist lifestyles. The bottom line is: is there truth to the message? When does something become a valid philosophical argument and something insidiously Orwellian? Communism _has_ proven to be evil because wealthy people use the promise of shared collective power to form a system purposefully designed to control people like pigs on a farm (which I find the idea of the pigs being the villains in *Animal Farm* kind of funny, considering how they are treated in real life). I like how *Animal Farm* is ambiguous enough that it doesn’t have to be _just_ Communism that is evil, but straightforward enough that even a kid can figure out that *anyone* who supports a system that revolves around “rules for thee, but not for me” is evil.
@Saltasaur
@Saltasaur Жыл бұрын
Username checks out.
@melonsauce1474
@melonsauce1474 Жыл бұрын
​@@Saltasaur George Orwell was a socialist and anti-captilism.
@the_VHS_system2411
@the_VHS_system2411 3 ай бұрын
My history teacher in my old school showed this to us for one term, absolutely insane
@ColorInversion
@ColorInversion Жыл бұрын
I remember watching Steve review's review about it when I was a kid, scared the hell out of me.
@Vabdlc
@Vabdlc Жыл бұрын
When this movie released it must have been a... Party in the CIA
@nocturnenugget
@nocturnenugget Жыл бұрын
Animal farm doesn't actually have an anti leftist rhetoric Its just anti Stalin Snowball is often portrayed as being the more moral one than napoleon Snowball is also representing Trotsky, who was a very very radical communist, it's simply Orwell romanticizing Trotsky and calling Stalin a tyrant and a traitor for betraying the initial values of the Russian revolution, as set about by Lenin, or old major in the book/film
@AnarchoTak
@AnarchoTak Жыл бұрын
wow you're the only one in this comment section with a brain. however I disagree it is anti leftist cuz it paints that all leftism leads to corruption and unnatural. it's anti Communist propaganda. it doesn't go into any of the nuances.
@nocturnenugget
@nocturnenugget Жыл бұрын
@@AnarchoTak not exactly, keep in mind Orwell himself was quite left leaning, not a communist per say but certainly had some very left leaning sympathies, the book if anything is trying to say that Lenin's ideas were good, but Stalin was a power hungry maniac, and that Trotsky was the one who would have carried out Lenin's vision, and tbh, it was somewhat typical of more left wing commentators who also didn't like Stalin to Saintify Trotsky, so no it's not entirely anti communist, ig one could say it's anti Stalin era communism? It's a bit hard to tell
@Saltasaur
@Saltasaur Жыл бұрын
Trotsky would have carried out just as many atrocities. He had goals of expansionism and irredentism for the Union and likely would have tried to conquer Eastern Europe.
@nocturnenugget
@nocturnenugget Жыл бұрын
@@Saltasaur oh yeah absolutely, Trotsky was completely out of his mind, not defending him at all, but it was just quite common for anti Stalin left leaning people at the time to romanticize a USSR under Trotsky as having been closer to Lenin's vision
@dansmith1661
@dansmith1661 Жыл бұрын
The Russian revolution was ECHOESforeigners funded by the bankers, to murder the family of a beloved Russian monarch. They tried the same in Germany and Hitler said no. Constant terrorism in Germany until those people got sent away.
@microsplat250
@microsplat250 12 күн бұрын
Ngl this soundtrack like one of my waky ass dreams
@KillerCaitie
@KillerCaitie Жыл бұрын
I saw this movie as a very young child. It happened to come on after a movie I was watching, and since it was another cartoon, I watched it. Most of it went over my little head of course as I was 4 or 5 or so at the time, but I remember enough that the thumbnail alone told me what movie this was. I remember that scene.
@eletvizviz-redux
@eletvizviz-redux Жыл бұрын
as someone who actually read the book i can say its a great read and everyone should read it
@shorewall
@shorewall Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's very accessible.
@eletvizviz-redux
@eletvizviz-redux Жыл бұрын
@@shorewall i cant tell if this is sarcasm or not
@shorewall
@shorewall Жыл бұрын
@@eletvizviz-redux I meant it. I usually think that political fables and allegories are very dense, but Animal Farm is easily understood. It's more like a parable. You can easily grasp the surface story, but the more you know about history and human nature, the more you get out of it. Compare to 1984, which is also by Orwell, and that is a hard read.
@shorewall
@shorewall Жыл бұрын
@@eletvizviz-redux I meant it. I usually think that political fables and allegories are very dense, but Animal Farm is easily understood. It's more like a parable. You can easily grasp the surface story, but the more you know about history and human nature, the more you get out of it. Compare to 1984, which is also by Orwell, and that is a hard read.
@eletvizviz-redux
@eletvizviz-redux Жыл бұрын
@@shorewall i actually am reading 1984 right now for my second time, animal farm is definitely a story about stalin when he was gaining power in russia
@TheGuardianssorrow
@TheGuardianssorrow Жыл бұрын
The book isn’t about communism and I really wish more people would finally realize this. Orwell even stated it’s not about communism.
@MadameSomnambule
@MadameSomnambule Жыл бұрын
That's what I'm thinking. The pigs remind me less of the working class communists and more of right wing fascists in the modern era, some of which are working class themselves. The whole "all animals are equal, but some are more equal to others" is more in line with right wing talking points than leftist or Marxist ones.
@Saltasaur
@Saltasaur Жыл бұрын
Huh, strange that everything in the film aligns perfectly with the events that formed the Soviet Union. HMMMMMMMM.
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
​​@@Saltasaurs said,itsnot about communism, its about avery sympathic shown good ideology perverted by greedy pigs. Especially stalin. Look up communist ideas, and compare it to stain(or even the udssr), and how they match up. As was said, its not about commun7sm, its about misguided or greedy pigs perverting it. And putin with the stalin worship used, agigns with that as well.
@ItsJustDoctor
@ItsJustDoctor Жыл бұрын
@@Saltasaur because Orwell really hated Stalin
@puffena9013
@puffena9013 Жыл бұрын
@@Saltasaur well yes, because it’s directly based off the rise of Stalinism from Leninism, to the point where many characters are intended to be 1:1 stand-ins for actual people like Stalin and Lenin. But Orwell was a Marxist socialist, and his critiques of Stalinism did not come from a hatred of communism (by all accounts he could himself be labeled a communist) but from a critique of the state capitalist authoritarian structure of the Leninist and Stalinist USSR post-revolution.
@thetwistedsamurai
@thetwistedsamurai Жыл бұрын
Films like this is why I get kind of upset over the argument "if you like anthro characters you have to be a furry". No. They're fantastic for storytelling.
@quindilon3633
@quindilon3633 Жыл бұрын
Wow, what a coincidence for this to show up! My class just got done with animal farm recently!
@provider-of-guardians7964
@provider-of-guardians7964 Жыл бұрын
Read the book for school when I was a teenager - I was so depressed over what happened to Boxer and just the book as a whole that I could never bring myself to watch the film (even if it does have a happier ending)
@Very_Silly_Individual
@Very_Silly_Individual Жыл бұрын
The ending of the book leaves a lot to be wanted. The movie makes sure to finish what it started
@riotkitty
@riotkitty Жыл бұрын
I didn’t realize this ever got an animated movie. Interesting, the book is very good so maybe I’ll check this out.
@roosh1986
@roosh1986 Жыл бұрын
How long have I gone for, not knowing that one of my favourite classics had a film to go with it?
@_little_byrd_-0v0-
@_little_byrd_-0v0- 6 ай бұрын
I feel like all the old books we read in school were weird, like to kill a mockingbird and grapes of wrath. But my two favorites I genuinely like and own to this day were animal farm and lord of the flies (grapes of wrath had some good parts but I didn’t care for most of it). As a teen I actually liked how dark and chaotic these books were, especially with the deeper meanings they were trying to show about humanity
@Pleia_Ds
@Pleia_Ds Жыл бұрын
Animal Farm actually shows what leads to 1984-middle class + lower class yeet the upper class but the middles just turn into the new tyrant uppers while the lowers get the shaft, then the cycle repeats every couple generations
@meoowowwmeoeomowmow
@meoowowwmeoeomowmow Жыл бұрын
animal farm is so good i actually cant express enough how much i love it
@TheSpy149
@TheSpy149 Жыл бұрын
My aunt got this for me and my siblings when we were not even double digits…. Scarred us
@_EmiliaV_
@_EmiliaV_ 19 күн бұрын
Currently learning about this in school and this definitely seems like something you'd cover on your channel. I was right
@thomasobrien1841
@thomasobrien1841 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: this movie was actually the first animated film to be released in Britain
@bernardomarkuskampffdemelo4323
@bernardomarkuskampffdemelo4323 Жыл бұрын
Something that i find very curious about the original book, is that some see it as anticapitalist, while others see it as anticommunist
@HereTakeAFlower
@HereTakeAFlower Жыл бұрын
It's pretty clearly anti-both, tbf. It's a stern warning against the excesses that power allows when it's concentrated in the hand of a small elite with themselves as their own only priority and moderators.
@karmak58
@karmak58 Жыл бұрын
You also get my half-assed summer assignment I did in the latter half of band camp for freshman year.
@pennyforyourthots
@pennyforyourthots Жыл бұрын
Something interesting worth noting: animal farm is specifically a critique of the Soviets, not socialism as a whole. George Orwell himself was a Democratic socialist who aligned himself with the Spanish anarchists in the Spanish civil war. The book is more a critique of the Soviets from the perspective of a different branch of socialist ideology, rather than a critique of socialism in general. Make of that what you will, but I think it makes the analysis of the story much more interesting when you realize it's not just generic anti-communism, but specifically and ideological dispute between two different branches of socialist ideology (especially when Spanish anarchists were putting a lot of tension with the Soviets during the civil war. If I remember correctly the Soviet Union basically pulled out and abandoned them). It's also worth noting that the ending of the film is different. The book has a much more pessimistic end where the pigs are seen as indistinguishable from their former human Masters (an allegory for, what in the mind of an anarchist would be a centralized State replacing another centralized state rather than any sort of meaningful change). In the film, Napoleon is overthrown with the outside help of humans who buy the farm. If you take the humans at the beginning of the film as an allegory for tsarist Russia, then humans returning to overthrow Napoleon can be seen as a different system (presumably American capitalism) replacing the Soviet Union with what the American audience would have seen as be more positive alternative. Of course, since the humans were the initial bad guys that Napoleon replaced, you can also read this as a cyclical revolution of a status quo that changes, but always sucks for the people living under it (which is probably not the intended message). Honestly, it's a very interesting story when you know the history behind it. It often gets boiled down to generic anti-communism, especially by Americans heavily influenced by the Red scare, so once you learn the history of its author you realize how much more nuanced it actually is.
@randomfoxyboi8687
@randomfoxyboi8687 Жыл бұрын
One of the few books we read in School that I genuinely enjoyed reading
@goldh2o543
@goldh2o543 Жыл бұрын
I would like to add, provided you're going to go over Animal Farm, that Orwell was critiquing Leninism and Stalinism in Animal Farm, and not communism broadly. It was meant to be about Authoritarians hijacking a workers revolution because the workers never had a chance to be educated. Orwell himself was actually anti-capitalist. It just so happens that the US Government saw it as a convenient piece to claim was critiquing communism in general, when that was never the point of it.
@CountSpartula
@CountSpartula Жыл бұрын
Except it serves well to critique communism as well. All routes to communism lead through authoritarian waters.
@goldh2o543
@goldh2o543 Жыл бұрын
@@CountSpartula That's the propagandistic shit that the US government wants to push. Mercantile and Feudal nations said all sorts of false shit about capitalism back when it was new too, because they knew capitalism was a better system for the people than mercantilism and feudalism. Same goes for socialism and communism.
@CountSpartula
@CountSpartula Жыл бұрын
@@goldh2o543 One problem with that: Its a false equivalence. No one has ever committed genocides in the name of Capitalism, not with proper state support behind them. Communism, and all the routes to it on the other hand have so much evidence as to their crimes against humanity that we're still digging up bodies. And still making them, for that matter, in the nations that are still trying it. Capitalism may enable terrible people to do terrible things, but its on a vastly lesser scale than that of everyone who ever attempted a go at Communism. And unlike the routes to Communism, it doesn't suppress genuinely good people either. The reason is simple: Capitalism does not justify anything that is not in the service of cementing the right to private property, of which it requires to exist. Communism however presents a complex utopic plan for the future and not only incentivizes a very specific lenses to view the world in, most importantly it presents a target for people. Is it any wonder why everyone except Capitalists require an outgroup to struggle against or be wary of? Not if you've actually read the texts at the foundation of it all.
@puffena9013
@puffena9013 Жыл бұрын
@@CountSpartula well that’s just nonsense. For example, look Chile, they had a democratically supported Marxist president come into power after overthrowing a dictatorship. Then the US funded a military revolt against him and placed a brutal murderous dictator in charge, but that sounds to me like an evil of capitalism far more than one of communism.
@CountSpartula
@CountSpartula Жыл бұрын
@@puffena9013 Your abilities of spotting the exception and attempting to present it as the rule is unparalleled.
@saquial
@saquial Жыл бұрын
I read Animal Farm after reading 1984, both are really good!
@snakeaddict2810
@snakeaddict2810 Жыл бұрын
I used to watch this movie all the time as a kid lol. It always made me cry, but I liked it
@sceptile61
@sceptile61 Жыл бұрын
Furry Fandom be like:
@2luvanime4ever
@2luvanime4ever Жыл бұрын
In high school we were forced to watch this while reading the actual book and I am still disturbed by the horse going to the glue factory scene. I think about that every once in a while.
@TheRealNormanBates
@TheRealNormanBates Жыл бұрын
“Forced”
@2luvanime4ever
@2luvanime4ever Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealNormanBates yeah like we’d come to class and the teacher would put it on for the whole class period and that’s all we’d do while answering questions she provided. It was brutal.
@chris.3711
@chris.3711 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the communist party comrade. Comply or... well... just comply.
@Whyareyouherethough
@Whyareyouherethough Жыл бұрын
Oh my I have this movie as a DVD and when I first saw it as a kid it honestly traumatized me
@woshyyyyyyyyy
@woshyyyyyyyyy 5 ай бұрын
my uncle recommended me this book when I was 13, it is a literal masterpiece! its simple yet not quite writing with subtle changes in the animals thinking is really believable would recommend :D
@cursorguy
@cursorguy Жыл бұрын
Honestly an Animal Farm movie sounds kinda badass
@kowaretatc8611
@kowaretatc8611 Жыл бұрын
I remember reading this in secondary Forgot what year but tbh Loved it ^^
@GetMeMoreGuns
@GetMeMoreGuns Жыл бұрын
I just had this as my assigned reading book for English class haha. Thank GOD i'm done with it.
@alexcrazy1492
@alexcrazy1492 Жыл бұрын
Having finished the book for school last week I have to say, while the book was better it’s allegorical to the Russian revolution to such an extent that having any allegories, it’s pointless
@theeskrungly
@theeskrungly Жыл бұрын
'Don't put politics into kids films' Also them:
@vampzara
@vampzara 7 ай бұрын
its not a kids film tho 😭
@thelegendaryarceus5618
@thelegendaryarceus5618 7 ай бұрын
It isn't a kids' film
@eko9554
@eko9554 Ай бұрын
More like “don’t put politics in movies”
@fatherted776
@fatherted776 Жыл бұрын
I was an active Communist sympathizer in Middle School, until I read 1984 and Animal Farm. After that I became a hardline Conservative
@puffena9013
@puffena9013 Жыл бұрын
That’s funny considering Orwell was a known Marxist socialist and active hater of conservativism
@vareeshordo5204
@vareeshordo5204 Жыл бұрын
That's crazy how a socialist turned you into a conservative
@melonsauce1474
@melonsauce1474 Жыл бұрын
RIP* since this is anti authoritarianism not anti-communist. The author was a socialist but USA thought it would be great as anti commie propaganda. They got you.
@fatherted776
@fatherted776 Жыл бұрын
@@melonsauce1474 A socialist stopped the rise of Communism. It's kinda poetic in a way; the greatest threat to mankind stopped by it's follower's own incompetence.
@thisiswhatilike54
@thisiswhatilike54 Жыл бұрын
@@melonsauce1474 I don’t recall who said it and I may be phrasing it incorrectly, but it’s been said most right-leaning websites and discussion threads have little to no moderation, whereas it’s the opposite for left-leaning, because leftist ideas (in this case, communism/socialism/Leninism/Marxism) require strict moderation just to exist. You’re the one who’s been got.
@Retroboy-qb4li
@Retroboy-qb4li Жыл бұрын
I haven't seen this movie, but something really funny to me is that a ranking channel described the scene where the cows stomp the pigs to death scene as "when the cows do not look like nice cows" 🤣🤣
@B.E.N_
@B.E.N_ Жыл бұрын
When I was like 8 and a total bookworm I saw the book translated to my language on the shelf at home and I thought it was a really long children's book and had nothing else to read I read it, it was surprisingly easy for an 8 year old to understand most of the ideas it was communicating.
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