Ditko’s Secret Exposed!

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Hi. We have to talk about Steve Ditko and a hidden portion of his career.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Introduction
1:30 - Once Upon A Time In New York City
5:03 - This Is Bound To Get Interesting
7:39 - Ditko Shrugged
9:42 - A Highly Specialized Conclusion
Sources:
Eric Stanton: Master Fetish Artist by R.C. Harvey. June 04, 2019. The Comics Journal.
www.tcj.com/eric-stanton-mast...
The Art Of Eric Stanton. Edited by Eric Kroll. 1997. Taschen.
Tribute To Steve Ditko. Alter Ego #160. September 2019. TwoMorrows Publishing.
Strange And Stranger: The World Of Steve Ditko by Blake Bell. 2008. Fantagraphics.
BACKGROUND MUSIC:
We Always Thought the Future Would Be Kind of Fun by Chris Zabriskie is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. creativecommons.org/licenses/...
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@termsofusepolice 4 ай бұрын

Given my familiarity with Ditko's independent comics as well as his personal essays the most shocking revelation in this video is Stanton's claim that Steve had a sense of humor.

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

Ha ha ha. Go figure.

@brianewing5530 4 ай бұрын

Hahahahahahhaha

@hank1541 4 ай бұрын

Dude even had a reputation in his family as the “fun uncle” and a bit of a prankster. My favorite Ditko comics are the ones where that shines through, ha

@DANINSKYWOW 4 ай бұрын

I actually was lucky enough to meet and speak with Steve Ditko back in 2012. What surprised me most about him was his mischievous sense of humor. RIP Steve - a true legend!!!

@EricFarwell-gh9pw 4 ай бұрын

I read an Eric Stanton comic because the naked girls and women were drawn hot, then realized that it was horribly mean incest. I never looked at his work again.

@chrisw6164 4 ай бұрын

Legendary science fiction writer Robert Silverberg wrote many spicy novels under a pseudonym in the 50s and 60s. The pay was better. 🤷‍♂️

@bluemooninthedaylight8073 4 ай бұрын

This has always been a thing with pulp entertainment. Pulp writers would write for "spicy" rags, along with westerns, adventure, science fiction, mystery, you name it. You gotta make money somehow.

@Briaaanz 4 ай бұрын

@@bluemooninthedaylight8073 awhile back, i was a member of a writers' group. Some were able to make some money on various stories, but for many(like myself) it was not much. One day, one of the members told us they had sold out and we're making a ton of cash. "What are you writing?" "Lol. Porn"

@dmonvisigoth1651 4 ай бұрын

Gotta have a side hussle, ya dig

@lads.7715 4 ай бұрын

Forrest Ackerman as well

@hank1541 4 ай бұрын

It’s another anecdote, but Russ Maheras mentioned Ditko saying that he thought a big advantage to his art was that he had no set, distinctive style. I can’t help but think with the Stanton stuff that Ditko didn’t realize just how recognizable he was

@divergentthinkingproductions 4 ай бұрын

If true, that lack of self-awareness totally tracks.

@chrisw6164 4 ай бұрын

I was able to recognize Ditko instantaneously when I was 12 years old. I very much disliked his art style at that time. My opinion changed a lot since then, but he IS unmistakable.

@ethansloan 4 ай бұрын

You've probably got the best comics channel on youtube. You deserve way more subscribers.

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

Thank you very much! One day this channel will grow up and get more subscribers. Maybe.

@TitularHeroine 4 ай бұрын

Okay firstly -- you have the *most absolutely perfect* voice to recite the old mantra, "Viewer discretion is advised."

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

Hah! I am available, if anyone wants me to record warnings for their videos. :)

@TitularHeroine 4 ай бұрын

Some *very* tangential thoughts I had while watching: ~Sweeter Gwen's "rival dom" looks very much inspired by cheesecake models of the day, like Betty Page and Tura Satana. It could've just been a common aesthetic. ~When Harry Osborn is sabotaging Peter and Gwen's assignment in lab, the monochrome green color is a neat (probably inadvertent?) foreshadowing of his becoming the Goblin. ~I'll be damned if Sweeter Gwen's abductor D'astardly did not directly inspire the look of the Purple Pie-Man from the old Strawberry Shortcake cartoon in the 80's. That resemblence is uncanny. And f**ed up. Maybe both were influenced by older film tropes. Thank you, Mr. Casavettes; I've really loved every bit of your content I've watched!

@ArchibaldGurnsbach 4 ай бұрын

I hope this is true, Strawberry Shortcake always gave me the creeps.

@TitularHeroine 4 ай бұрын

"hope this is true"😂😂 For some reason I find that really funny!

@user-mg5mv2tn8q 4 ай бұрын

D'astardly is really just a parody of Sir Dystic (Sadistic) D'Arcy, one of the villains from the original Sweet Gwendoline fetish comics by John Willie. And Willie basically designed D'Arcy as a good-natured parody of himself.

@resistancepublishing 4 ай бұрын

Ditko didn’t allow his family members inside his studio when they visited. Considering his religious background, I think Ditko was a bit embarrassed so he hid his involvement with Stanton.

@leroypreston2973 4 ай бұрын

What was his family's religious background?

@leroypreston2973 4 ай бұрын

Was it Presbyterian, methodist,catholic, lutheran, mormon, what?

@resistancepublishing 4 ай бұрын

@@leroypreston2973 steve grew up as a Byzantine catholic in his household. When he lived on his own I’m sure he moved away from that based on the things he would talk about.

@leroypreston2973 4 ай бұрын

@@resistancepublishing got it and thanks. Think even if he moved on to have his own beliefs through Objectivism, he still retained his family's views concerning sexuality?

@leroypreston2973 4 ай бұрын

And/or wouldn't want them to know he worked on smut?

@billyrice5573 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for covering this unsung hero of comics. Your videos always make my day. Keep up the good work, sir.

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! I will continue to make them as long there are people like yourself watching them.

@noneofyourbusiness4616 4 ай бұрын

unsung hero -- presumably you're referring to Eric Stanton

@skeletorthepublicnuisance6707 4 ай бұрын

@@noneofyourbusiness4616 hopefully

@joncarroll2040 4 ай бұрын

I don't know whether its ironic or unsurprising how many legends of Superhero comics were heavily involved in BDSM: see also Joe Shuster and William Moulton Marston.

@jimgillespie6109 4 ай бұрын

As a fan of both artists, I'm glad you made this video. I'd heard much of this before, but your take on this topic (or any other) is always welcome. I just wish I could see the Patreon version. Sigh. Anyway, well done, sir.

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! I really wish I could have uploaded the uncensored version here. To my eyes, it's pretty tasteful. But I know the KZfaq bots would flag it immediately. Image-wise, there's a fair amount of difference. Otherwise, the content of the video is exactly the same. A few audio edits, but that's it.

@donoso1312 4 ай бұрын

This is the absolute best comic book related channel in the planet. I love your focus on creators.

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

Thank you very much! I appreciate that.

@ryaneasterling1556 4 ай бұрын

I do love rabbit holes and looks into obscure history. Great video as always

@oliverortiz5226 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for making this video. Any look into the great Steve Ditko is always appreciated.

@ItsaLaz 4 ай бұрын

Well this ain't gonna show up in Beyond the Spiderverse.

@TitularHeroine 4 ай бұрын

....dammit

@TheCaptainhowdy11 4 ай бұрын

You are the best in comic history and commentary.

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

@RabbiSteve 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for making and sharing this video essay. Always fascinated by anything about Ditko, one of my favorite artists and comics writers of all time. Very interesting stuff. Keep up the good work.

@aristobulus8754 4 ай бұрын

Really interesting deep dive into a fascinating rabbit hole. Always brilliant content from your channel, fascinating stuff!

@Nemo-oj8mb 4 ай бұрын

Man what a deep cut. I’m so glad I came across your channel. Keep it up!

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

Thank you. I'll keep making them if you keep watching. :)

@pauljohnson271 4 ай бұрын

You always deliver such good stuff!!!

@robling1937 4 ай бұрын

This is such a cool exploration! Huge fan.

@andresortiz9558 4 ай бұрын

Now THIS is the quality content I subscribed for

@codemonkeyattack 4 ай бұрын

I just recently found your channel, and I've got to say that the few videos I've watched so far have been fascinating topics that go above and beyond. Great work, looking forward to your future vids and catching up on the previous ones.

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

Welcome aboard. I hope you find a variety of material you enjoy.

@4-a-e 4 ай бұрын

Love channel. Fun and informative. ❤

@deathtone1614 4 ай бұрын

Great video

@ViktorKruger99 4 ай бұрын

I'm glad you are covering this one I remember hearing about Ditko's "true origins" years ago in a podcast but not many people on YT talk about it

@ViktorKruger99 4 ай бұрын

also, some people have pointed out the similarities between spiderman's mask and a gimp mask maybe spiderman's design is not that uncommon nowadays, but back then it did stand out

@squirrel9407 4 ай бұрын

Serendipitously, I'm reading through the Eerie Archives and finding Ditko there more than I had previously realised. It's not surprising he (or other comics artists - Wally Wood would be the most obvious) did this sort of material, purely because it paid well and it was probably more easy to do than complex plots, characters with depth and so on. Another fascinating video essay, thank you.

@wraithstrongopark 4 ай бұрын

well done, i enjoyed this.

@macsnafu 4 ай бұрын

When I saw the title of this video, I figured you must have been talking about the Eric Stanton stuff. Although I guess it's not impossible that Steve still has a secret yet to be discovered.

@reprintranch 4 ай бұрын

Regarding undiscovered secrets, I’ve been arguing for years that Dr. Strange was a reboot of the short-lived Marvel hero Dr. Droom, from early issues of Amazing Adventures. Similar origin story and powers.

@Vicshade 4 ай бұрын

Great video. I love the Ditko content. Given his personal integrity, I wonder if he was also respecting his role as a ghost artist for the work.

@D.S.handle 4 ай бұрын

The art is beautiful.

@markshulusky6680 4 ай бұрын

Fascinating. Your episodes are always totally immersive, regardless of how the subject material may vary. Seriously, I'd love a segment where you cover the "bad girls" of kid comics, ie.: Veronica Lodge, Mayda Munny (from Richie Rich), etc. Just for shits and giggles.

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

You know, that's not a bad idea! Thank you for the suggestion.

@robertopulitano8093 4 ай бұрын

Cant watch right now but I liked and commented for the push. I'll watch as soon I get home, I suspect the naughty topic for the vid jeje 😂

@purpelfais 4 ай бұрын

man i love this channel so much.

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

This channel loves you right back.

@RodrigoGarcia-ze5em 4 ай бұрын

One of the things i like the most about this channel is that it tries to be objective, other comic book youtube channels seem to have problems with their own personal biases, meanwhile SBP puts a lot of effort on being objective.

@RodrigoGarcia-ze5em 4 ай бұрын

@@StrangeBrainParts Hi Strange, i really like your channel, i have a suggestion for a video, an eternal debate on the Green Goblin and Norman Osborn, mainly because both Stan and Steve had their own version of what happened but both of those versions contradict the versions of Roy Thomas (Alter Ego #50, "Rascally Roy Thomas Talks About the 1960s and Early ‘70s", 2005) and John Romita Sr (The Web-Spinner #5, "Rambling with Romita", 1966) amd it seems both creators had memory lakes on that matter and i think it could be an interesting topic for a video.

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion. I will see what I can see.

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

Thank you. I do try to accurately or factually look at whatever the topic may be. And when I am biased that's mentioned upfront. I don't try to hide behind excuses or rhetoric.

@3amapplecam 4 ай бұрын

I’ve never heard of this element of Spider-Man or Ditko’s history, and I’m a lifelong Spider-Man fan. Thanks for the well researched, well written video, it’s a fascinating subject!

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! I thought it was interesting too. I mean, the history. Not necessarily the video I put together. :)

@3amapplecam 4 ай бұрын

@@StrangeBrainParts Don’t sell yourself short, you managed to make a video that includes Spider-Man history AND BDSM, that’s an achievement!

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

Admittedly, it's not something that comes up in Spidey's history. :)

@ascorvinus 4 ай бұрын

I have that Sweeter Gwen book, and honestly, I thought of it principally as a comedy. I remember it being suggestive, but not explicit.

@Skipray_Blastboat 4 ай бұрын

The kinky Ditko stuff looks like Gilbert Hernandez of Love & Rockets fame took some inspiration.

@Sorrelhas 4 ай бұрын

I was expecting some deep stuff, like extremism, maybe dogwhistles in his work, lmao As a fan of manga, anime and JP video games, I'm so used to creators I enjoy having backgrounds in adult content. Yusuke Murata of One Punch Man fame began drawing rawnchy strips for fan magazines, if I'm not mistaken, Kouta Hirano recycled a bunch of stuff from his adult doujin days in Hellsing, and Masami Obari, a respected animator in Japan, is also credited for Angel Blade (more educated people can probably bring up more examples) So many indie games and mobile gatchas hire the talent of R34 artists, and I imagine many of these artists will use the opportunity to boost their careers and get started on more "respected" works

@NOIDEDU 4 ай бұрын

Obari was inspired by his classmate Satoshi Urushihara to become an animator, the ladder would later be known as "the breast master" and did some animation work on the 86 transformers movie. On the other topic, its kinda sad and hypocritical how people see adult ilustrators as something to be embarrassed off, when illustrators in general are known for being horny mfs, I bet every known artist has a folder of nsfw stuff in their archives they did just for fun.

@joshuadoubleday5120 4 ай бұрын

Love the KLF nod at the end

@williamjackson6705 4 ай бұрын

Ditko wasn't the only comics artist to go down that rabbit hole. Golden Age artist Bill Ward & early African American comics artist Gene Bilbrew did a great deal of BDSM art. Archie artist Dan DeCarlo did a lot of adult cartoons for men's magazines as well.

@el.link9897 4 ай бұрын

Your research is so good. You should make a "Life after Superman" video. There's not alot of KZfaq videos covering Siegel and Shuster decline and legal battles with National and your style is fitting in that regard. Keep making videos they're so good. P. S: It's that a Roberto Bolaño reference in your forehead?

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

That's a very good subject! Thank you for the suggestion. As for the reference: It's playing with the notion that I am an AI voice, which some have suggested. :)

@davidkoenig8592 4 ай бұрын

Been paying attention of your channel for a bit now. I think that if the men worked in such close corners as they did (I have that particular Stanton book), there would have HAD to be ideas tossed around and art done for each other. It would have been a natural situation to do so. Like you said though, it is all speculation as there is no hard facts. It is a great topic.

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

I think it's only natural, right? Especially if you got along with someone and respected their opinion. You'd likely be asking for advice or an opinion whenever you were not too sure about what you were doing. It makes sense to anyone who's worked in a collaborative medium.

@zainmudassir2964 4 ай бұрын

Good exposé

@martyemmons3100 4 ай бұрын

The art Ditko did not claim, would fit in with two other comic book art that I appreciate: "Lady Death" by Brian Pulido "F.A.K.K.2" by Simon Bisley I have bought issues of "Lady Death" and Simon Bisley's hard cover "F.A.K.K.2" art. Nothing could detract from Steve Ditko's classic "Spider-Man" and "Dr.Strange" art.

@amanzeihedioha 4 ай бұрын

Please do a Ramon Fradon video one day...🥲

@Thenameless1 4 ай бұрын

I second this.

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

Suggestion taken into consideration!

@joncarroll2040 4 ай бұрын

Thirded. She's easily the most underappreciated golden/silver age artist.

@pulsarstargrave256 4 ай бұрын

From what I vaguely remember, Ditko's response to being accused of being influenced by a "Spiderman" kids' Halloween costume (1958) for his own costume design for Spidey (1962); or working on erotiic comics with a friend and former studio mate (Stanton?); both fell along the lines of...: It's up to the accuser to PROVE it! I wonder what Mr.A would have said about this?

@dakotah7683 4 ай бұрын

The kids custom was bullshit and you'd have to be blind to think it was close to any similarity. The erotic comics were a known thing even in his time.

@pulsarstargrave256 4 ай бұрын

@@dakotah7683 Have you actually seen the "Spiderman" kid costume? Because it doesn't sound like you have. The company even secured the rights with Marvel years later to do an official Spidey Halloween costume. There are quotes on various subjects that were from Ditko's essays, letters and "hearsay" comments from people he had spoken with but the latter are the least reliable due to the elasticity of human memory!

@TitularHeroine 4 ай бұрын

@@pulsarstargrave256I've seen it, the 1960's Ben Cooper one. It's at least plausible.

@dakotah7683 4 ай бұрын

@@pulsarstargrave256 Fucking blind it is then.

@carlgibson285 4 ай бұрын

@@dakotah7683 you'd have to be blind to think there was any similarly? Really? Design-wise, the costumes are almost identical. The only real difference is the colour.

@DoppelgangerShockwave 4 ай бұрын

I love your videos. You always put out such intelligent work. As it pertains to Ditko and Stanton. They have no reason to be ashamed of the adult comics they made. And if anyone doesn't like them, then simply read something else.

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

Thank you very much. And I agree.

@ShinKamaitachi 4 ай бұрын

Maybe Steve needed the money, that's why he did this comic books, was disgusted by what he did, then denied it.

@007megaoof 4 ай бұрын

This is pretty tame compared to the extreme fetishes that are rampant today, but I can see why Steve wouldn’t want people to know about this.

@davidknight2423 4 ай бұрын

It would be interesting if you could do a video focusing on Ditko's work at Warren Magazines. Perhaps his greatest post-Marvel work. I would say evolutionary, in that it continued his growth as an artist.

@dafullclip 4 ай бұрын

If those two creators got along that well, it's more than likely that they shared a common interest in that particular subject. And although this maybe a bit of a stretch, when you think about it, Ditko's Spidey *is* a closeted persona/alter-ego of an emotionally suppressed, angry teen that dons a skin-tight, fetish-esque costume and *does* have a penchant for restraining and photographing his ops in webbing. Spiders are also considered to be "creepy" by most women according to some polls. Anyways, insightful video. Thanks.

@ArchibaldGurnsbach 4 ай бұрын

I'd never heard this before, but of course it makes sense. The number of prominent cartoonists who have turned their hand to this kind of content would shock the prudish, so why not Ditko? Also the quote about Ditko actually laughing warm my heart.

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

Right!? There's very few anecdotes where he's, you know, a human being.

@ArchibaldGurnsbach 4 ай бұрын

@@StrangeBrainParts other than Wally Wood, Ditko has always struck me as one of the saddest stories in the history of comics.

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

Wally Wood's story is pretty damn sad. He deserved a lot better.

@jamestrickingtonIII 4 ай бұрын

Dudes rock!

@ericw8478 4 ай бұрын

Boy have times changed.

@emperorpalpatine6239 4 ай бұрын

Some of the panels undeniably indicate that Ditko was involved in illustration of some of those spicy comic books to some extent. His art style is too recognisable.

@RodrigoGonzalez-tf9cj 4 ай бұрын

INTERESANTE

@DamianMesser 4 ай бұрын

Nice.

@residentgrigo4701 4 ай бұрын

And now Eric Stanton would be a highly regarded artist with award-nominated books at Image with a Substack and or Patreon. There are a few Shounen Jump artists who publically started with hentai and there are examples of mangaka who do Shounen work and porn at the same time.

@williamgeorge2580 4 ай бұрын

I knew this was going to be about his smut era. TBH I think it's a lot better drawn than most of the stuff you can find back then. Heck, a lot of the comic book smut tends to be barely readable even today so it's noteworthy in that respect.

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

That's a good point.

@ArchibaldGurnsbach 4 ай бұрын

I can recommend Rhymes With Lust by Matt Baker, more like an amped up Douglas Sirk movie than smut. Lots of heaving bosoms and light physical abuse, exquisitely drawn

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

I agree with all that! And, if you need a look at it, there's a video somewhere in the archives about it.

@jschap712 4 ай бұрын

I think I've also seen '"Stanton" work where a character had more than a passing resemblance to Harry Osborn.

@KelsaRavenlock 4 ай бұрын

Sounds like he should have been roommates with Marston and giving ideas on Wonder Woman.

@unstopitable 4 ай бұрын

Nice sleuthing, but the "cross-pollination" between the two seems trivial at best. I won't fault you for the click-bait-ish title. Ya gotta do watcha gotta do. Top-notch video, as always.

@flipavila5424 4 ай бұрын

you gotta change that music... kills me everytime

@sk8mike 4 ай бұрын

Steve Ditko was also a conservative guy, who later in life became extremely conservative. So given his disposition it's understandable that he'd be embarrassed to be associated with fetish comics.

@constantinegarganta8364 4 ай бұрын

If you tried to count how many artists and writers put and disguised their fetishes on their work, you have counted everyone, but like 10 people, but that's still too many people that didn't put their fetishes in their work

@TheLegend-uo9tx 4 ай бұрын

Could you do a piece on Dark Horse's "Comics Greatest World" imprint from the 90s, a very underappreciated project

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

I've been compiling information on that very topic! So, that will happen at some point.

@tokukeitaro 4 ай бұрын

@StrangeBrainParts I look forward to it, I too was a fan.

@stevenguitink5947 4 ай бұрын

Given Ditko's fascination with Ayn Rand and given Rand's interest in BDSM-adjacent stuff, I can't say I'm surprised.

@ImCurrentlyNaked 4 ай бұрын

I just imagine he wants to clearly and cleanly separate his name from any association with adult content. Even now, it'd be a little awkward to sell children's products whilst also having adult content. If a kid reads that Ditko worked on something adult related, and was a mega fan of his, he may track it down - which seems like something Ditko would be concerned with, given his strict morals and beliefs. It's interesting though that working on adult content wasn't beneath him, or that he was happy to associate with someone who quite publicly produced it - you'd think adult content would be something that Ditko himself would stand against, but apparently not. Guess he didn't mind adults enjoying their alone time.

@TheChadTI 4 ай бұрын

I love Steve Ditko, I hope there's no terrible revelations in this video. My heart can't take it 😂

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

I don't think there's any terrible revelations. :)

@matthewkeating-od6rl 4 ай бұрын

Ilike.... eric stranton work.

@nohbuddy1 4 ай бұрын

Was Stanton a big fan of Wonder Woman lol

@danzigvssartre 4 ай бұрын

Whenever I see the Zodiac Killer's composite sketch, I always think it looks like Steve Ditko. Needless to say, when I saw the title of this video, I thought the secret exposed might be a much worse secret.

@MegaFROMOUTERSPACE 4 ай бұрын

Eric Stanton was such a sly fox making that NSFW material. No wonder Ditko preferred not to mention this period of his career.

@lanternsown3525 4 ай бұрын

Steve Ditko and Rabbit Holes go hand and hand it's par for the course.

@JungoFunko 4 ай бұрын

so true, haha

@MK7-MephistoKevin777 4 ай бұрын

Well up until now, I thought (and was even told) a long time ago, that ''Eric Stanton Was Steve Ditko'' and all Stanton art was actually by Ditko, Now seeing this, and that Ditko did pencil and ink some of Stanton's work, I can see the connection, and that my friends comment may have been more sarcasm than serious.

@EricFarwell-gh9pw 4 ай бұрын

"Ditko Shrugged" led me to think you would talk about his Objectivism. Ayn Rand's books had a weird way of giving the reader "permission" to misbehave.

@ToneTitan 4 ай бұрын

What is the comic that is pictured in the intro?

@westonlong 4 ай бұрын

This video made me think of Tomi Ungerer.

@docsavage8640 4 ай бұрын

Ditko was a great man and a great artist.

@duncanmilligan-qx1ge 2 ай бұрын

What comic does the first few panels belong too?

@ghostrider88jinetedelfanta31 4 ай бұрын

In the 50's & 60's comics were primarily for children & teenagers. I can see Ditko not wanting to admit, at least publicly, his involvement with such risqué &/fetishist comics. It could have severely limited his ability to get work. Also he might have gotten paid less &/not been credited since he was a "pervert" artist 🎨.

@tompuce84 4 ай бұрын

@jameshanna490 4 ай бұрын

speeking as a fan sd does it realy matter if he did,

@jamesmcclure3907 3 ай бұрын

Didn't some of the early SUPERMAN artists get accused of doing Tijuana Bibles in the 40s and 50s? Usually unsigned, but they could probably pay a bar tab or two.

@leroypreston2973 4 ай бұрын

I would say that Stanton's stuff while NSFW for its time is tame by today's standards. It being more sexy women in sexy outfits with nudity at most but nothing explicit. More softcore by today's standards and there's loads of artists who have done stuff of that level nowadays.

@dakotah7683 4 ай бұрын

This is nothing new and wasn't much of a secret at all. It was a known fact he worked with Stanton and was a decent friend of his for some time. It was most likely done as a favor.

@tonygriego6382 4 ай бұрын

Didn't Joe Schuster work on something similar around that time?

@beastmastreakaninjadar6941 4 ай бұрын

It's really hard to say. It does appear that Ditko did, at least, ink some of that work. But then, having the same teacher and working in the same studio could easily have influenced the work of either of them to occasionally look like that of the other. In a shades of grey perspective, I think he probably did since Stanton's work was mostly just racy while the work of some contemporaries, like Ward, were downright explicit. Btw, has anyone else noticed that Kamala Khan's powers are reminiscent of Shade: The Changing Man's? LOL

@m.scottmcgahan9900 4 ай бұрын

You haven't kicked out the J.A.M.s!

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

They are welcome for as long as they like. :)

@TheSickNeeds 4 ай бұрын

Could you please provide a link to the video where Stan Lee claims that he created all of these characters and wrote all of the stories? Cus if any of this stuff exists you know that Stan Lee would make that claim and then on the seventh day he rested!

@neilthehermit4655 4 ай бұрын

Have you every investigated " Tijuana bibles" ? A friend is a collector and has several he is convinced were drawn by 'famous' comic artists.

@jschap712 4 ай бұрын

My bit of speculation: I wonder if Ditko would have been less reluctant to be associated with Stanton if Stanton had stuck to things like Sweeter Gwen, vs his later, more extreme work. In later years, when Ditko was doing indie work, and had his lasting rep from Spider-Man, I can't see how the past silliness of Sweeter Gwen would hurt his prospects, so I doubt financial or career reasons would be involved. But being associated with an artist who's done things like shemales dominating men, with full frontal nudity? Maybe that was a bit much.

@BCWasbrough 4 ай бұрын

Man, now that I'm famous, I hope nobody finds out I did cheap smut and erotica on the side. Man, wouldn't it be great to discover they did cheap smut and erotica in addition to their regular work? I'm glad times have changed, and creating adult content isn't *as* career-wrecking as it used to be.

@Tysto 4 ай бұрын

It seems like Sweeter Gwen is based on Gwen Stacy & just, you know, sweeter.

@carloscrecelius9597 4 ай бұрын

Steve, you sly dog, lol.

@gapsule2326 4 ай бұрын

Wild how much comics and bdsm intersect.

@tapinewoods3937 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, big babes😎

@franklee6746 Ай бұрын

I thought this was going to explain his secret for making all those tied up girls look so hot.

@user-dk3up2nl1m 4 ай бұрын

I heard Ditko did some sort of bondage comic on the side

@frankandstern8803 4 ай бұрын

GUESS WHAT COMIC BOOK ARTIST AND FANS DONT GIVE A S##T ABOUT.

@mrd5024 4 ай бұрын

You can put the whole video here. You will just not make money on it.

@StrangeBrainParts 4 ай бұрын

It's not really the money. It would get shadow banned and then it would get no views. Which is, in effect, a bad thing for the channel. It's happened before and it takes a while to recover from it.