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Divine move 78? it was my trick move -Leesedol- Goproyeonwoo

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Leesedol confessed divine move 78 was actually his trick move!
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@BadukTV
@BadukTV 4 жыл бұрын
It was a divine move in the sense that he created a tsumego that crashed AG. Legend has it, move 78 still bugs AG to this day...
@KimmyR3
@KimmyR3 4 жыл бұрын
DeepMind has already developed AlphaGo Zero which beat AlphaGo (the one Lee Seedol played against) 100-0.
@claudeyaz
@claudeyaz 3 жыл бұрын
Yeh dude. When you beat an AI it doesnt "mentally break it", playing lee sedol was just another way for alpha go to get strong
@lyanbv
@lyanbv 3 жыл бұрын
@@KimmyR3 they should recreate the position and see how AGZ reacts
@arturocalderon1043
@arturocalderon1043 2 жыл бұрын
@@lyanbv It Is probably in His dayabase now so we may never know
@sanderland3487
@sanderland3487 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review! These AIs don't make 'trick moves' though, they assume their opponent is like themselves, so alphago maybe missed the refutation of its own move and thought it was good! :)
@Wtahc
@Wtahc 2 жыл бұрын
where did she say that
@andreacazzaniga8488
@andreacazzaniga8488 4 жыл бұрын
It is not divine, it is human. And that is perhaps the one reason why it worked
@gabrielgonzales5907
@gabrielgonzales5907 4 жыл бұрын
For the show Hikaru no Go, I understand that they simply used real archived pro matches for Sai's games. Naturally Lee Sedol could win against those players. If Alphago's archived matches had been available at the time the manga was written, the authors would have used Alphago's moves as Sai's moves. That would have been great I think.
@AirIUnderwater
@AirIUnderwater 4 жыл бұрын
I was so sad when they took AlphaGo online and named it Master. They should've named it Sai instead. :(
@sebastianbal1008
@sebastianbal1008 Жыл бұрын
it wouldn't have been consistent, since sai was an ancient go player that possesed shusaku his playstyle couldn't be the same as alpha go
@user-yc3fw6vq5n
@user-yc3fw6vq5n Жыл бұрын
@@sebastianbal1008 Umm but sometimes they used modern games for Sai that didn't involve Shusaku
@move7816
@move7816 3 жыл бұрын
Lee Sedol is a hero of mine, I live in the Republic of Ireland, and I would love to be able to buy a Go Board. But you cannot get them in My Country. I hope Lee wins. Peace.
@washizukanorico
@washizukanorico 3 жыл бұрын
You cannot buy a goban in Ireland? Don t you have board games shop in Ireland? I live in paris even twenty years ago in the far suburbs it wasn’t an hard item to get .... I am amazed irland doesn’t t have casual go players... worst case scenario you have Amazon, but I am quite confident you can find a shop selling goban in pretty much any city in western Europe ...
@Sameoldsamold
@Sameoldsamold 4 жыл бұрын
Can we see some of your pros matches?
@goproyeonwoo
@goproyeonwoo 4 жыл бұрын
Sure
@gabrielgonzales5907
@gabrielgonzales5907 4 жыл бұрын
Handol should play against Alphago Zero.
@indiracarlabruni6152
@indiracarlabruni6152 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I'm so curious about Lee Sedol's game!!
@PlantsAndInsects
@PlantsAndInsects 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much :) great video
@stahmd
@stahmd 4 жыл бұрын
Are you going to review Lee Sedol vs Handol match?
@goproyeonwoo
@goproyeonwoo 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I will do that!
@vasundarakrishnan4093
@vasundarakrishnan4093 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. That was a trick move. I cannot believe it.😮
@JedMontesTheDarkXXXHunter
@JedMontesTheDarkXXXHunter Жыл бұрын
That's crazy the AI is fast learning but so did Lee Segol, he won the 4rth and then the 5th was a close fight too.
@Hyrtsi
@Hyrtsi 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I like your content a lot. Just subscribed
@it5617
@it5617 4 жыл бұрын
I like ur videos, thank u!! I started playing go due to Hikaru no go only. In India chess is more popular, hardly anyone plays go. Can u teach more joseki and middle game techniques?
@goproyeonwoo
@goproyeonwoo 4 жыл бұрын
Sure
@it5617
@it5617 4 жыл бұрын
@@goproyeonwoo thank u for the reply. I'm looking forward to learning more from u!! 😊
@omnilliptic5350
@omnilliptic5350 3 жыл бұрын
Your English is superb!
@Ysekai
@Ysekai 3 жыл бұрын
Have you watched the recent Hikaru no Go drama in 36 episodes (it's on KZfaq)? I recommend it :)
@jmm00702
@jmm00702 4 жыл бұрын
no such thing as "bugs" on a neural net AI once its already trained and running, neural nets learn to play just like humans would, they're based on and imitate the human brain neuron chain reactions after all. So basically the nn didnt expect move 78 (as it evald it as a 1/10k probability move), so allowed it, and later didnt find the "solution" because in its 95-depth search it evaluated that solution as an overall loss of the game, no matter by how little points. But yeah thats not a bug, thats just the result of AI not being perfect, and in a game like GO with more board configurations than atoms in the universe, GO might never get solved thus AI will never be perfect at it, thats the reason why neural net AI is even used for it. But this binds it to its neural net: Its just like an extremely strong human player, always having a chance to lose if facing another extremely strong player, or another extremely strong AI
@MelindaGreen
@MelindaGreen 4 жыл бұрын
Lee may be stronger than Sai, but Sai doesn't have a body so he can't get tired which is a big advantage. It is the same with AI. Software is the ghost in the machine.
@eastsidefilmer
@eastsidefilmer 3 жыл бұрын
3:45 beep beep beep 🤣😂🤣
@HoloBoss
@HoloBoss 4 жыл бұрын
You have the best teeth i have ever seen lol
@celso9421
@celso9421 Жыл бұрын
what should i study to become a 1d in pandanet????????
@RustyNPiece
@RustyNPiece 4 жыл бұрын
I remember in the englisch commentary, Michael Redmond, 9p was also sceptical of move 78 because he coudn't see it working out. So, yeah, if you're lucky enough to produce bugs in AI, you'll have a chance at beating them ; )
@ritsukasa
@ritsukasa 4 жыл бұрын
but Michael Redmont ended believing move 78 was working after more moves. And later (same day?) he recorded a 15-min review of the game and missed the refutation (he still tought it was working). There were pros that didnt see the refutation soon during the game and others that saw it.
@hillsideonly
@hillsideonly Жыл бұрын
​@@ritsukasa where can I watch Redmond's review of the game??
@user-yc3fw6vq5n
@user-yc3fw6vq5n Жыл бұрын
6:18 to 6:33 is so funny haha 🤣😂
@Abc-tx5hy
@Abc-tx5hy 4 жыл бұрын
Anytime, Sai can beat Lee Sedol at GO and yeonwoo at DANCE.
@goproyeonwoo
@goproyeonwoo 4 жыл бұрын
hahaha agree with DANCE!
@alexfar9533
@alexfar9533 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know I could like short hair girls, but you are beautiful. Cute nose, lovely lips and eyes. Well done 👍
@kj01a
@kj01a 4 жыл бұрын
$250,000?! I should go pro 🤔
@goproyeonwoo
@goproyeonwoo 4 жыл бұрын
not for all pros like me :p
@kj01a
@kj01a 4 жыл бұрын
@@goproyeonwoo not yet, you mean! 😉
@washizukanorico
@washizukanorico 3 жыл бұрын
Choose another sport, I have heard Messi makes 100 times that every season ...
@honkeykong9592
@honkeykong9592 4 жыл бұрын
No no no you tell lee sedol, i refuse to play AI moves all the time. I bet you nor lee have played mokuhazushi or GoGo since becoming high dans and pros.
@karzimegmusic8437
@karzimegmusic8437 4 жыл бұрын
Is s/he boy or girl?
@washizukanorico
@washizukanorico 3 жыл бұрын
You are a joke, it s quite obvious what she is. Why are you that much bothered anyway? I thought you were here to learn about go
@williamtai6383
@williamtai6383 4 жыл бұрын
Dammit, I wasn't first
@johanjohan6434
@johanjohan6434 3 жыл бұрын
alpha zero 200 alpha go 0 ....... yup baduk god is alpha zero .......
@vladi1Z
@vladi1Z 4 жыл бұрын
With all the respect to Lee Sedol he really doesn't understand AI... It is not the first time he talks about how humans can still surpass AI, which is really ridicules. AI isn't only already far stronger than humans, but the gap will only grow larger and larger. There is no "black box", there is a program which is able to calculate things in an inhuman way and learn from all the games humanity has ever played and draw 'conclusions' from them far more perfectly than a pro could ever dream of.
@jessecox8486
@jessecox8486 3 жыл бұрын
With all due respect to your experience, I don't really believe beating AI is as complicated as everyone's making it out to be. I think we've set ourselves in our ways of how the game's played, and AI is taking advantage of that. A lot of the moves AI pulls have already been discussed, and ditched as "bad" ideas many years ago. With every advantage one has in life, one also has a disadvantage tied to it. And the two usually balance each other out. AIs flaw is its strength. That's just my opinion though.
@alexblickhan5175
@alexblickhan5175 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is that humans can’t calculate thousands of sequences instantly like AIs can so we have to rely on heuristics like “5th line shoulder hit is bad” to aid out ability to calculate, so we have to label some moves as “bad” so that we don’t waste time calculating ridiculous looking moves all the time
@3aeren
@3aeren 3 жыл бұрын
are u a woman?
@6xi_goluwaskle
@6xi_goluwaskle 3 жыл бұрын
First u tell me.. U r girl or boy? Just kidding. 👻
@gabrielgonzales5907
@gabrielgonzales5907 4 жыл бұрын
Who else wants Lee Sedol to take up chess now?
@klaaswijnsma122
@klaaswijnsma122 4 жыл бұрын
Why downgrade? ;0)
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