DIY Air Compressor After Cooler / Dryer

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Venom Chris

Venom Chris

4 жыл бұрын

UPDATE-READ! After making this video I found that running the air from the pump into the Transmission Cooler Radiator then into the Copper Wort Chiller gave a much better outcome. Do not run it into the Copper Wort chiller first! The Copper tubing will get extremely hot!
This was my first try at this and it is working really well. I may try putting the bucket of water with the coil in it, into a Mini Refrigerator to see how that works. For now it is working great.
Here is a parts list:
Transmission Cooler: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
Cooler Mount Kit: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
1/2" X 50FT Wort Chiller- B/O price $80: www.ebay.com/itm/1-2-x-50-Cop...
Hydraulic Sealant: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
6 Pieces 8an Flare to 1/2" NPT: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
PTFE Line and fittings: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07...
5 Gallon Bucket and Lid: Walmart
My compressor had 5/8" Compression fittings using 1/2" Copper Pipe. So I used a piece of copper pipe with a 5/8" compression fitting on one end and a 1/2" copper slip on to 1/2" NPT Female thread. Check your compressor pump output and input for your correct size. I got the plumbing fittings at Lowes.

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@Did625
@Did625 3 жыл бұрын
Very impressive and well thought out. My only reservation is the need for a drop line drain after the copper tubing before the oil cooler. If not you are sending back into the oil cooler all of that condensation. Great job. Thanks I plan to duplicate your idea
@immanutt4442
@immanutt4442 Жыл бұрын
By far one of the best tutorials on air compressor condensation removal that I have seen ... thanks a mint Sir !!!
@anonimous2451
@anonimous2451 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I did mine exactly opposite using the radiator first, then 2 auto draining HF Water Separators like you have after the small one. Then I ran the output of those into the tank, output of tank to a custom made 2" Rigid Pipe additional Separator and Desiccant Dryer, back to a 3 in line filter assembly that I swapped the the micro particulate to the last position to catch any desiccant dust leaving the trap area, then to my lines with dual feeds with a gate valve. 1 is totally clean dry air, the other one is an oiler tank for my air tools. The clean dryed air is used for Painting and a Plasma Table. Not a fish eye in site. My next project is to build a vapor blasting cabinet, with glass beads and a water feed with a dust bunny catcher like on your cabinet. The reason I used Rigid pipe is my compressor is rated for 200 PSI and rigid pipe is good up to 300 PSI. The Desiccant Viewing windows (1 top /1 bottom) is rated at 250 PSI.
@PaulThomas-qo9vy
@PaulThomas-qo9vy Жыл бұрын
I agree that the hot air should #1): go thru a fan cooled oil cooler to cool air to near ambient temp., then #2): to a water seperator, #3) next to the ice water cooled copper coil, #4): another water seperator, #5): a coalescing filter for any oil vapor/particles, #6): then into the tank. It's a mistake to send hot air firt thru the water cooled coil, then warm it back up with ambient air. No! Each cooler should progressively cool the air more & more, & remove moisture after each cooler so less & less water has to be dealt with. Progression leads to high efficiency moisture removal & very dry air in the tank.
@anonimous2451
@anonimous2451 Жыл бұрын
@@PaulThomas-qo9vy Redundant coils is completely unnecessary and chilled coils work well to reduce temps but then you have the hassle of the Water and adding more Ice. I don't have time during the day to swap out a bucket of ICE every 30 mins and mine does not have that. I have ZERO literally ZERO water droplets out of the lines. IF you want true conditioned air I would recommend you buy an air line cooler. If you got $1,000 laying around doing nothing. The way it is I got almost that in my setup already and IF I knew that going in I woulda already have bought it in the first place. You do not need to step down the air temp. Use a laser temp guage and measure the temp outta your compressor head (around 240-300* F) and then out of your Separator like I did and the temp is literally 77 degrees. That is absolutely FINE unless you live at the North Pole, then you get free ice anyway............
@ichooselife9033
@ichooselife9033 4 жыл бұрын
You went all out on this. I like it. The only thing I would change, and someone below mentioned it; The restrictions cause by all the coolers/radiators. I would double up. Large compressor lines feeding 2 cooling system lines so air volume is not as hindered. Or just save for an air dryer
@paulmanhart9755
@paulmanhart9755 2 жыл бұрын
Good idea with the copper coil. However, there is no way for the water to get out of the coils. You need to come down with the first coil and go into a tee fitting. On the other side of the tee, you connect the tubing and come back up, winding in the opposite direction. You end up with a double helix. Air enters the top and coils down, connecting to the left side of a tee. Then from the right side, you coil back up and out the top. At the bottom of the tee you put a copper tube and ball valve that sticks out the bottom of the bucket. This way, the water that condenses will flow down in both coils and exit at the bottom. I designed this several years ago and I’m using an 8” PVC pipe to hold the water and double helix. The pipe ends are sealed with discs of PVC foam and secured with long bolts that connect top and bottom on the outside. I run 50/50 water antifreeze through the PVC pipe and it circulates through a radiator in a mini fridge. It works very well. Wish I could send a drawing. But you need a drain at the bottom of your coil at the very least.
@venomchris5818
@venomchris5818 2 жыл бұрын
I would tend to agree with you and I figured I would need a drain valve on the bottom of the coil. I figured if the system worked I would add the drain valve. Once i saw that it worked great, I used it for a few weeks and then disassembled it and the coil was bone dry. I put it back together and it has been 2 years now. The Auto Drain Water Separator installed right before the tank removes an incredible amount of water. Every now and then I hit the drain on the second water separator and the valve on the bottom of the tank. I have yet to see any moisture other than a slight vapor mist for a second in the second water separator and no moisture at all from the bottom of the tank. So I never installed the drain valve and it has been working perfectly for over two years. The only change I made is that it was better to run the line through the radiator first and then to the coil as mentioned in the description. The thing I do find strange is the the water in the bucket after two years is still incredibly clean and has not evaporated more than about an inch.
@restoblast1387
@restoblast1387 4 жыл бұрын
Looks great Chris, yes the fridge, would make a huge difference, I'm on the east coast of Australia and back in the 70's to the 90's many workshops used to run drinking water in the same way through a fridge and you could have cold water like a keg, you can run a filter too & it's nice on a hot day, same principle. I look forward to seeing how you go, my compressor has a inbuilt drier & then 2 water traps after that in the lines, i just have clear hose, so you can monitor what comes out. 👍
@venomchris5818
@venomchris5818 4 жыл бұрын
I am going to try the fridge... :)
@pentearmacaco
@pentearmacaco 3 жыл бұрын
I loved your solution. It is really hard core! You are using the heat transfer properties of water being 24x that of air to make a much more efficient heat removal compared with some of the vertical pipe systems people have done. As others have mentioned, I'd add a trap at the bottom of the copper coil, and maybe put your auto drain on that. It would reduce any water that your final filter would need to take care of. I doubt your compressor tank would collect any water - could be done manually. I haven't done any calculations but a copper coil from HD with a 1/2" ID offers a low pressure loss. I'll try without the oil cooler first since that adds about $130 to the project. A bit of salt in the bucket would keep stuff from growing in it.
@toddpaulsen1396
@toddpaulsen1396 4 жыл бұрын
Great system. I want to put one in for my everlast plasma cutter.
@karljay7473
@karljay7473 3 жыл бұрын
Great system, seems like getting the copper tube very hot was the whole point and having it in water should remove the most heat. One interesting thing is how much water would be released once it expands into the tank. I think the colder the air going into the tank, the more water would be released once it expand into the tank. The think about releasing the water into the tank is that it's released into the compressed air that's already in the tank. So as the tank goes up in pressure, it's less effective. Having a release tank prior to the main tank solve this. You'd have to have a water separator before the main storage tank.
@NathanNostaw
@NathanNostaw 2 жыл бұрын
Ive been planing something along similar design ideas, but never thought about the distilation gear. I have a 20,000L water tank under my workshop which I could run copper lines through and it would cool the air down to no more than 20degC. Thanks for the tips.
@CarltonFlowers
@CarltonFlowers 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, and you just gave me some new ideas! I am trying to design my own system for my body shop right now. I like the idea of mounting the radiator behind the fan on the compressor, using the energy already being spent to lower the heat of the air. I looked at some copper coils at Lowe's, and they have a 10' coil for around $25, and a 20' coil for about $45. I had also thought about submerging the coil in a bucket. My only reservation is, where does the condensed water go from that point? I would add a drop leg after the coil, with a petcock valve or the automatic water separator valve like what you've done. But I REALLY like the idea of using a refrigerator. I have converted a 5,500 sq ft garage into my current body shop, and it used to have 1,000 sq ft as an apartment. I converted the apartment space into my paint booth (where the living room and bedroom were). There's a kitchen off to the left of this space, right in the middle, and I have a working fridge. I could plumb my line right to the fridge, and back out to the wall. The only thing I need to do is figure out how you could drill the holes in the fridge and seal them up. That's my next task! I think I would probably put the coil inside of the fridge, or the freezer perhaps. Then I could run the output to a drop leg and put the water trap at the bottom. Great video!
@IzziedeD
@IzziedeD 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Carlton, what setup did you finally end up with?
@imkindofabigdeal4308
@imkindofabigdeal4308 2 жыл бұрын
I picked up a cheap 10" radiator fan and 12V power supply to mount to the same Derale 15300 oil cooler. Very efficient - wired into the motor contactor on the compressor it only runs when the compressor is on. $35 for both plus some wire. Get's air really close to ambient before hitting the water separator. Works like a charm and super clean/compact.
@CarltonFlowers
@CarltonFlowers 2 жыл бұрын
@@imkindofabigdeal4308 That's really cool! Just a regular 12V power supply? I am going to try this. I like the idea of wiring the fan to the compressor, to where it's only on when the compressor is running. Thanks for the update!
@joer8486
@joer8486 2 жыл бұрын
Great job Venom Chris! Can you provide a link for the water separator that automatically drains when the compressor stops? Thanks.
@charliebeck1448
@charliebeck1448 3 жыл бұрын
If you didn’t want to disturb any pipes on your compressor I bet it would work good on the opposite end of your compressor where the air exits the compressor. I have same air compressor and have a fan blowing directly on the head of the pump and I’m going to do the same rig as you got there but on the opposite end where the air leaves the tank. So with the fan blowing directly on the head of the pump and the chiller on the exit side of the tank between the exit point and air line I think it will work just great. Just my opinion all thoughts welcome
@erichughes6119
@erichughes6119 4 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to do mine. The fitting going into the tank and the one coming out of the pump are males and were connected to each other with copper tubing and female compression nuts on each end. How do you convert the compression to npt? I have a male compression need to adapt to a male npt. I keep buying fittings that don't fit. The copper tubing supplied on the compressor is 1/2 inch but smaller than the 1/2 inch pipe I bought so how did you sweat those together?
@SMOKEY-JAYS-DIESEL
@SMOKEY-JAYS-DIESEL Жыл бұрын
Awesome setup but you definitely did not need to add a transmission cooler. That's actually warming up the air!! by the time it goes through all that copper tubing in the 5 gallon water bucket It's cold your home never heat that bucket of water up. You would have to run that compressor non-stop all day
@Clemson88
@Clemson88 2 жыл бұрын
Clean and fill two milk jugs water and freeze them. Put one in the center of that coil in the morning and perhaps replace it at lunch with the other. It's almost free and you can forego the purchase of the tiny fridge.
@TheDWZemke
@TheDWZemke 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job Chris! I do not know the answer so do not think I am just being a smart.... guy.. when the hot air is coming out of the compressor with moisture in it and then the coolers create condisation in the pipes. The condisation then via gravity flows to the lowest location. Maybe the bottom of the coil? Other than blowing it out how do you setup a gravity / automatic blowout system?
@rogerd4523
@rogerd4523 4 жыл бұрын
TheDWZemke, the condensate that builds up in the pipe will always be blown with the air until it meets some type of separator, which he has installed before the receiver tank. The receiver tank will act as a separator as well, hence the drain valve on the bottom of the tank. Hope that helps.
@hiseminencetheholymacdiarmada
@hiseminencetheholymacdiarmada 4 жыл бұрын
How do you plan on getting water out of the copper coil? I would imagine that even with everything you’ve got upstream of it, you will get some condensate n there and it will need a place to go. I work HVAC/R so my thought would have been to braze in some sort of simple drain valve at the lowest point on the coil.
@rogerd4523
@rogerd4523 4 жыл бұрын
John, the condensate will be blown out of the line via air pressure. Condensate will always flow until it is released somewhere, hopefully not at the end of the line where the air is being used. Why separator is used and drains on the receiver tank (which acts as the final separator).
@martinwarford9945
@martinwarford9945 Жыл бұрын
@@rogerd4523 Rotate your coil to a horizontal position with the outlet at the low point, add water separator between coil and oil cooler to remove water before oil cooler for better separation.
@ZEOPHYTE72
@ZEOPHYTE72 11 ай бұрын
Could you have routed the 1/4” drain off of the primary moisture separator into the 5 gal bucket rather than onto the floor?
@radishfever
@radishfever 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure if thus is an issue. You have air running through that copper coil in the bucket. How does the water condensing inside the copper coil drain? If the air entered the top of the coil and exited via gravity this into a tee with a downward dog leg that had a auto drain. Then you could drain most of the water before it ever hit the separator ✌️
@smkyg
@smkyg 3 жыл бұрын
i wonder that. all the condensed trapped into the coil and pushed onto the water trap. i think it's not so serious since the air cooled and the chance of water condensing low. maybe a little water in that system
@glytch5
@glytch5 3 жыл бұрын
Can you say... overkill? lol. I live in NYS and it does get super humid in the summer. I use a 10 foot single run of 1/2 inch copper, and then about another 8 feet worth of a cupper U shape with a drain, then up to a two stage filter and I get just about no water at all... How the heck do you need all of this?
@1conu593
@1conu593 10 ай бұрын
Just wonder why you are concerned about humidity with wet sand blasting ? Or maybe you’re also painting or dry blasting ?
@venomchris5818
@venomchris5818 10 ай бұрын
I also do Dry Sand Blasting and painting....
@charliebeck1448
@charliebeck1448 3 жыл бұрын
Did anyone ever use refrigeration copper y bends instead of 90s and tees to make a compressor air dryer just wondering if it would work
@ronaldcrowder404
@ronaldcrowder404 Жыл бұрын
On the copper in the bucket have you got any pin holes from copper fibrating or is wear minimal there ? Just curious
@venomchris5818
@venomchris5818 Жыл бұрын
To this day no wear... Just changed the water twice to check on the copper..
@ronaldcrowder404
@ronaldcrowder404 Жыл бұрын
@venomchris5818 absolutely awesome that was my only worry with that . I was in heating and ac for 20 yrs and countless times I have seen pin holes where a plastic wire tie wore a hole just from vibration. Thanks again!! Awesome job !!
@ralphparker
@ralphparker 4 жыл бұрын
What are the temps at the bucket exit and the fin cooler exit? I'm thinking you should have used the fin cooler first and the bucket cooler second. The fin cooler brings the temp to ambient then the bucket gets it even cooler. Make sure the fin cooler isn't heating the air back up to ambient temp. You could try just keeping fresh water in the bucket, its probably cheaper than running a fridge which may not be powerful enough anyway. Second, how fast does the water in the bucket heat up? Just drop a 2 liter bottle of ice in the bucket see how long that last. My theory is that once you've cooled the compressor air to 70 F, and extract the condensated moisture out, you've got most of it out already. I really like your approach. Installing the cooler and separator before the tank gets the moisture out more efficiently that the videos that install a tubing separator system after the tank. Thanks for the video.
@venomchris5818
@venomchris5818 4 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct... I had changed to the order you described the next day. I have also put some shock absorbers to the hose lines to cut down on vibration.
@worldburger
@worldburger 4 жыл бұрын
Venom Chris you put shock absorbers where exactly?
@charliebeck1448
@charliebeck1448 3 жыл бұрын
Oh also forgot might fill the bucket with windshield wash so it don’t freeze in the winter time what your thought on. It
@coorslighticecold
@coorslighticecold 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job ! Was wondering how long the pressure valve bleeds out now with all the extended plumming? Gona do my compresser trying to fiqure the best method.
@venomchris5818
@venomchris5818 4 жыл бұрын
The valve bleeds for about 10 to 15 seconds, which does not seem long until it is actually happening... lol... Also not sure if you saw my other comment... I changed the flow and now go into the transmission cooler first and then to the copper coil.. That works much better...
@coorslighticecold
@coorslighticecold 4 жыл бұрын
@@venomchris5818 I wonder if anyone has tried putting a inline check valve between the pump & trans cooler ? I might try that.
@anthonyrochon3907
@anthonyrochon3907 2 жыл бұрын
The link for the coil on ebay is not functional anymore. Any other alternative placrs for that coil?
@venomchris5818
@venomchris5818 2 жыл бұрын
www.ebay.com/itm/290457502092
@firmbutton6485
@firmbutton6485 4 жыл бұрын
I have a spare freezer, I gonna do the same, fill a big tank with water and have pipe run through it.
@JeffZiegler76
@JeffZiegler76 2 жыл бұрын
How do you empty the water at the bottom of the coil?
@venomchris5818
@venomchris5818 2 жыл бұрын
I never have.. Been using it for years and works just as good as the day I built it.
@OldManYoungMind
@OldManYoungMind 4 жыл бұрын
All those fittings by your compressor are offer no buffering for the viberation. In other words down the road your going to have a failure at that point. You need a vibration damper of some sort.
@venomchris5818
@venomchris5818 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about that.. Thanks for confirming.. Any good ideas on simple solutions?
@OldManYoungMind
@OldManYoungMind 4 жыл бұрын
@@venomchris5818 When I put in my AIr cooling system (DIY System) I used a barbed fitting straight out of the compressor that connects to a HD Rubber hose and it is clamped in place on the fitting. It's been in service for 3 years without an issue. They do make special fittings called vibration damping hose but they are pricey.
@imkindofabigdeal4308
@imkindofabigdeal4308 2 жыл бұрын
@@venomchris5818 +1 on the hose vs copper. Hose Power (a Bridgestone company) is a national chain and will make custom hoses with whatever connectors you need. I'm using the same Derale cooler. They made 3 braided stainless, PTFE hoses rated to 500 degrees with connectors for about $120. Not bad for a really clean install and a minimum of connection failure points.
@georgespangler1517
@georgespangler1517 4 жыл бұрын
I feel it's better to have one stage compressor because a 2 stage compressor heats air up twice,,it will boost your pressure but not your CFMs.
@rogerd4523
@rogerd4523 4 жыл бұрын
George, two stage compressors almost always have an intercooler to cool between stages. I would be hesitant to buy a two stage compressor without one, if you can even buy one without said cooler.
@imkindofabigdeal4308
@imkindofabigdeal4308 2 жыл бұрын
@@rogerd4523 Roger that Roger. My two stage has an intercooler. And fills the 80 gallon tank very quickly. Two stage compressors usually run an industrial motor that operates at a lower RPM - quieter and more reliable. With an aftercooler mounted, my input to the water separator is just slightly above ambient and my tank barely has any water in it (vs tons before the install).
@kainduran3480
@kainduran3480 4 жыл бұрын
How about some ice in the bucket .... a 32ounze frozen cup...
@1957kwick
@1957kwick 4 жыл бұрын
I will do you one better I wouldn’t fill that bucket with water. I would use antifreeze because the water will get stagnant after a while the antifreeze won’t . Plus it’ll cool way better than the water just a suggestion.🛠
@kumaquattro
@kumaquattro 3 жыл бұрын
Glenn, your suggestion is not correct, water cools and dissipates heat better than full strength anti-freeze . If anti-freeze was better, why don't cars use undiluted anti-freeze ???
@davewood406
@davewood406 4 жыл бұрын
I think that coil in the bucket is going to prove more trouble than it's worth. I don't think a small fridge or even a big one has the BTUs to move enough heat to keep up. That's even before you figure a way to transfer the heat out of the bucket water into the refrigerator. A radiator and fan inside the refrigerator? You mentioned already being strapped for space. So let's say you solve the heat moving capacity and heat transfer problem. You'll likely be well outside of the refrigerators designed duty cycle. It will die in short order. My bet is, you would be better served by getting rid of the bucket coil and just getting more air over the trans cooler. Worst case adding another trans cooler as well.
@venomchris5818
@venomchris5818 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, it is working incredibly well.. I had to change the flow direction. I now go into the radiator first, then to the bucket.. I have no water entering my tank now.. The automatic drain on the bottom of the tank is always dry....
@davewood406
@davewood406 4 жыл бұрын
@@venomchris5818 Kinda what I'm saying is that I bet after that bucket coil water gets warm, it's probably not doing much work in the system, the trans cooler is doing most of the heavy lifting. Might even be ok without the bucket and water, just leave it to the open air, with the coil dry, you could flip it upside down so that it drains any condensate that collects in there... All the other after cooler builds on youtube with a trans cooler setup seem not to need much else besides the drains/separators. Mostly I would worry about that bucket being one more thing to worry about, could harbor mosquitos, mold/algae or ultimately the coil sitting in water would corrode eventually. Don't get me wrong, it's nice work and the distiller coil is an interesting idea, I'm just spitballing issues I can imagine...
@davewood406
@davewood406 4 жыл бұрын
Again, I see how it is to put your work up for criticism on youtube. I don't want to sound like I'm bashing what you've done here, just thinking out loud.
@venomchris5818
@venomchris5818 4 жыл бұрын
@@davewood406 I welcome all criticism and ideas.. I will say, First I tried the set up with just the trans cooler it did work very well. Although I was still seeing a small amount of water in the second water separator and a small amount in the tank. I then added the coil in the bucket. At first I put it before the trans cooler and it worked very well but the coil got extremely hot. I then put the coil after the trans cooler and that works the best. The coil does not get more than cool to luke warm and I never see even a mist come out of automatic tank valve on the bottom. The secondary water separator barely ever has anything in it and if it does , it is a mist that lasts maybe a second. The coil in the bucket great improves the system. And the bucket of water is room temperature to start every day whether it is cold or hot out. I have checked the temperature at the end of a work day and it appears the water has ample time to cool between cycles.
@code3responsevideos872
@code3responsevideos872 4 жыл бұрын
Dave Wood why couldn’t he use the bucket (if he put it in a fridge) after the tank but before the hose. I read that refrigerated dryers are used after the tank but before the tool. That serves a much better purpose to give ample time for the air to cool before cooling it and separating out the water. You could easily cool the air from ambient (using aftercooler) to 40 degrees threw a fridge with water in a bucket.
@glockman8091
@glockman8091 Жыл бұрын
You could also put ice in your bucket.
@georgespangler1517
@georgespangler1517 4 жыл бұрын
I did mine 2 years ago with 1/2 coil copper tubing from my pump to tank,, I was going to use condener,,but noticed the restriction of air flow from reducing from 1/2 piping on compressor to the 3/8 tubing in condener,, your going to create backflow to your compressor head and shorten it's life...
@georgespangler1517
@georgespangler1517 4 жыл бұрын
And you just reduced your CFM s by 1/3 with your restrictions
@chvydrptop
@chvydrptop 3 жыл бұрын
How so?
@kainduran3480
@kainduran3480 3 жыл бұрын
Fill the bucket with ice...
@libertymart9954
@libertymart9954 3 жыл бұрын
Cut a port in the top of the bucket itself. Install a small 110 v fan ( like some in small soda coolers) wire the fan to the pressure switch so it comes on with the compressor. Drill a few vent holes around the bottom of the bucket. Should eliminate the need for water cooling
@SMOKEY-JAYS-DIESEL
@SMOKEY-JAYS-DIESEL Жыл бұрын
Lmao 🤣🤣 refrigerator 🤷🏻‍♂️ You might as well put some beer through that copper tube also if you're going to refrigerate that air
@323desi
@323desi 4 жыл бұрын
contact info?
@georgespangler1517
@georgespangler1517 3 жыл бұрын
Your lines are to thin diameter,,,never go less then it was intended for,,the cooler looks to be 3/8,, and people don't realize 2 stage gives you high pressure not volume,,, I always use one stage,,2 stage compresses air twice making air hotter and resulting in more condensation,, I just used the 1/2 copper coils from head to separator to tank.and dropped my temperature from 170 to 90 degrees and no more condensation that concurred when hot air enter cooler tank. The is traveling so fast the water really does nothing. And if you try blowing air through transmission cooler as I did you will see the restricted flow as I did,,and all it will do as put strain on compressor head and with the back pressure,,,many are having head gasket problems doing what you did as well as shortening the life span.
@imkindofabigdeal4308
@imkindofabigdeal4308 2 жыл бұрын
Heat is generated by compression - basic thermodynamics. The extra mass and intercoolers on a two stage would be spreading that heat out but I don't see how compressing air to a fixed PSI can generate more heat depending on compressor type. My two stage has an intercooler between stages and another cooler after the 2nd stage and I'd guess has more effective heat management than a single stage.
@georgespangler1517
@georgespangler1517 2 жыл бұрын
@@imkindofabigdeal4308 only stands to reason if you compress air twice it's going to get hotter, easily determined by checking tempeture at each cylinder, l have, and is why 2 stage come with a coolers and single don't, not to mention there louder, ask yourself why would even want to if you don't have too, my single stage was set up for 155 psi that I would never need so I backed it down to 130 and it fills the 60 gallon tank in 90 seconds less time that will extend life years,, but you do you and I'll do me and I'm sure my setup will be around longer with less problems, believe me I weighed this out well being around compressors all my life just don't make sense to have to repump air to achieve what you can at once. Even a honest compressor manufacturer will tell you a single stage will out last 2 stage with less funtion and noise.
@georgespangler1517
@georgespangler1517 2 жыл бұрын
@@imkindofabigdeal4308 hot air is more dence and needs to be cooled before second stage to be more affective to repump, l can see where 2 stage would be better where much higher pressure is needed over 150 psi, but for volume single is best way to go
@imkindofabigdeal4308
@imkindofabigdeal4308 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgespangler1517 You probably meant hot air is less dense. A two stage is not "repumping" it is just a higher pressure stage. It isn't like the first stage goes to 150 and then the second stage starts again from zero.
@georgespangler1517
@georgespangler1517 2 жыл бұрын
@@imkindofabigdeal4308 yes,less dence,, first stage is usually to 60 psi and second boosts it up from there. I had 2 stage a friend gave me and switched to single when it through a rod, and I have a 4 cylinder old speedair I restored it's a beast puts out 36 CFM,, my single puts out 12 CFM at 90 psi 3.5 horse power,, where I would of had to had 5 hp to get 17 CFM 2 stage .. and took up alot of space and was really loud
@linzenmeyer
@linzenmeyer 4 жыл бұрын
Super overkill and super expensive.
@hbseth1867
@hbseth1867 4 жыл бұрын
Man, you really need to Google "KISS Method" before you touch another tool
@horscategorie
@horscategorie 3 жыл бұрын
Just put a fan on the radiator. The wort chiller is great for brewing beer, but long term my bet is you will develop stagnant water, mosquitoes, and other issues mentioned above. This has been done before - look at the PC industry. Want to cool something hot? They have tried it... Heat pipes, water cooling, huge conductive radiators passive or active with fans. Best bang for the buck? Radiator with a fan with a heat pipe... essentially what a transmission cooler is on a larger scale only add a fan. Hell, have two radiators, or three... just do it in parallel not series, and sandwich a fan between them.
@imkindofabigdeal4308
@imkindofabigdeal4308 2 жыл бұрын
@@horscategorie Yep. And you have a whole lot of cooling capacity with all that ambient air vs water heating up. I'm getting to just a few degrees above ambient on the water separator inlet using the same Derale cooler and a 10" radiator fan wired into the motor contactor. The fan and power supply cost under $40 and works like a charm. Clean install too.
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