Waypoint Survival has a heatingstove that uses sterno. Looks like there are commercial versions. Also Slim Potatohead used an ammo box to make a pellet stove forhis A-Liner. Just some other ideas. I like the candles!
@sameaston13018 ай бұрын
Really interested in seeing how that works in sub-freezing temps. I'm sure you are too! Very "cool" 😁👍
@NowhereBoundAdventures8 ай бұрын
Thanks Sam! 😎
@CallSignGino7 ай бұрын
I have a Propex heater in mine. Works great.
@johngoodin34452 ай бұрын
One thing you might want to consider. Use the ammo box and make a Giant Crisco candle out of it. You fill the ammo box 2/3 with vegetable shortening. Shove six to eight wicks down thru the shortening. Rather than using a heat sink use a Sterling heat engine. the Sterling heat engine looks like a small desk fan. it gets its power from the heat itself and helps to recirculate the heat without any electricity.
@NowhereBoundAdventures2 ай бұрын
Great suggestions!
@teripittman2 ай бұрын
And for those folks concerned about ventilation, we put a cast iron lid from a cookstove on the burner in our Airstream. Cracked a window by the bed and slept fine.
@BackcountryNomad3 ай бұрын
What a dynamite idea I have seen other people do candle heaters with terracotta pots I just subscribed looking forward to seeing more
@NowhereBoundAdventures3 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@george0r5103 ай бұрын
tHE HEATER IDEA IS WONDERFUL. IT REALLY DOES WORK. A SUGGESTION, USE A TRAY-STYLE PAN UNDER YOUR HEATER. IT WILL KEEP YOUR STOVE FROM FALLING OVER, AND IT WAS KEEP A MESS OF BEES WAX GETTING EVERYWHERE. IT WILL ENSURE YOU DO NOT HAVE A FIRE ALSO, AS IT WILL CATCH THE WAX IN A SITUATION IF IT SPILLS.
@Mity_Moose8 ай бұрын
Dude! I have to comment here my concern about asphyxiation. I would definitely redesign that into enclosed box and have a vent tube off the top going through the roof or the wall and a vent tube out the bottom coming up tho the floor. That way there is no concern about the candles, noxious fumes in such a small space. Great idea, but please be careful.
@NowhereBoundAdventures8 ай бұрын
That is why I went with beeswax candles. They actually purify the air. Four candles consume about the same amount of oxygen as a human, so I’m not worried about asphyxiation. I also have a carbon monoxide detector in the camper. I appreciate the concern! Thanks for the comment and for watching! Peace.
@susie98934 ай бұрын
Really like this idea but please do a video testing it's performance in sub zero camping conditions. Thanks
@NowhereBoundAdventures4 ай бұрын
I certainly will, but it's going to have to wait about 9 months 😃
@susie98934 ай бұрын
@@NowhereBoundAdventures thanks. I'll keep an eye out
@johngoodin34452 ай бұрын
One safety recommendation I would make would be to tape it down with some kind of miracle tape. The same kind as shown on TV that advertises to hold up to 40 pounds.
@mikem20553 ай бұрын
I know its four months since you posted this video but hopefully youll see this. May I add a suggestion, install a flat head screw to screw in the candles so that the box will be stabilized. Great video and I will try this out since I dont have to use fuel and buy lots of candles for cheap!
@NowhereBoundAdventures3 ай бұрын
That's a great suggestion! The box is actually recessed on the bottom center so the self-tappers had plenty of clearance to keep the bottom flat. Thanks for watching!
@DustinHawks_Gradient7 ай бұрын
Another great video! thanks for sharing.
@NowhereBoundAdventures7 ай бұрын
Thanks Dustin!
@stevepoole19538 ай бұрын
Pretty cool idea!
@NowhereBoundAdventures8 ай бұрын
Thanks Steve!
@user-dg8tn4jh8y8 ай бұрын
Oh i need one!
@jessys98687 ай бұрын
Interesting concept, not sure if it would be warm enough for me but pretty cool!
@NowhereBoundAdventures7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@larchlarch98518 ай бұрын
Great idea
@NowhereBoundAdventures8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@erichmmiiiable7 ай бұрын
I would add steel cable and hang it from the ceiling out of the way and no tip over risk
@NowhereBoundAdventures7 ай бұрын
Great observation! I’ll be adding a board to the bottom for that purpose. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!
@susie98934 ай бұрын
@@NowhereBoundAdventuresI feel like you addressed that pretty well with the screws that hold the candles in place, but I don't have any pets that might knock it over But the wood platform would address any issues with melting the resting surface
@susie98934 ай бұрын
I think having this as close to the floor is the best option - don't forget that heat rises so pretty useless having it up near the ceiling. That's where you put aircon (cos cold air sinks)
@dannybaumback39234 ай бұрын
Hi, Great idea, can you tell me where you purchased your heat sink please? Thanks Danny
@NowhereBoundAdventures4 ай бұрын
Thanks! I bought it on amazon, just searched for “heat sink”.
Good try, but by time you crack your window to bring fresh air in and expel the CO2, you are probably going to be colder. On the other hand there is a psychological effect of having a fire, and this would help with that. I was in cold weather survival training a long time ago and the trainer recommended a slow burning candle since you will feel better when you have a flame to see. Make sure to use a CO2 detector. CO2 is going to be more of an issue that CO. 12v electric blanket along with a warm hat to wear at night will keep you pretty warm, particularly with some nice warm blankets or a cold weather sleeping bag. There are folks that sleep on the ground with a sleeping bag alone. Having something to warm the camper up first thing in the morning is probably more important, since it is hard to get out of bed when it is 40 degrees colder outside of the covers.
@NowhereBoundAdventures7 ай бұрын
All valid points! When I did some research I learned that 4 candle flames consume about the same amount of oxygen as a human being, and likewise produce the same CO2. Therefor I'm not too concerned about CO2. The ambient light definitely adds a comfort level. Between this heater, the dog's body heat and my own, plus the other items you mentioned, I think we'll be in good shape. We'll be testing it out in the wilderness about a week from now, and I'll be making a video of that trip. Stay tuned and thanks for watching!
@scottbradford1928 ай бұрын
cute project. why not use a buddy heater or a mini butane heater?
@NowhereBoundAdventures8 ай бұрын
Thanks! Buddy heater is too hot for such a small space. Can’t really let it run all night. I haven’t tried mini-butane, I might look into it!
@astrodoc41638 ай бұрын
How fast do the candles burn?
@NowhereBoundAdventures8 ай бұрын
They claim to last 12-15 hours. We’ll see….
@stevemueller73768 ай бұрын
winner winner
@NowhereBoundAdventures8 ай бұрын
😁
@Nomadiccamping8 ай бұрын
Have you tried the buddy heater on pilot only
@NowhereBoundAdventures8 ай бұрын
Yes I have!
@elelegidosf97073 ай бұрын
There is no point in adding the aluminum heat sink. The final objective is to heat the air in the camper, and all the heat sink does is add an extra, unnecessary step - the heat from the candles heats the heat sink, which in turn heats the air. Without the heat sink, the heat from the candles would simply heat the air.
@NowhereBoundAdventures3 ай бұрын
I respectfully disagree. While the heat from the candles does radiate, the heat sink transfers the heat to the air molecules more efficiently by providing more surface area for the air to contact. That’s the theory anyway (I haven’t tested it). Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!
@elelegidosf97073 ай бұрын
The heat sink does indeed convect heat out into the air around it. But where did that heat come from in the first place? Answer: it came from the hot air under the heat sink, which rose from the candle below. The transfer is air-to-heat sink-to-air: we might as well skip the intermediate step and remove the heat sink from the system so that the heat simply remains in the air. To explain further, from the conservation of energy, we know that energy cannot be created or destroyed. And we know that the _only_ source of heat for the heat sink is the candle. Due to the conservation of energy, the heat sink _cannot_ emit more heat into the air around it than it received from air around it. If it did, then you would have discovered an infinite supply of free energy and you would have solved the world's energy crisis. Alas, ye cannae beat the laws of physics, Jim. Given that the heat sink cannot give out more energy than it received (if it did then its temperature would decrease until it reached absolute zero), its net effect on the heat in the system is zero. The heat sink cannot transfer more energy into air around it than it received from the air around it. It's as simple as that. An analogy would be pouring the water from a full 1-gallon bucket into a second 1-gallon bucket, and then pouring the water from the second bucket into a third 1-gallon bucket. The first bucket represents the hot combustion gases of the candle, the second bucket represents the heat sink, and third bucket represents the air around and above the heat sink. By pouring water from the first bucket into the second bucket, and then from the second bucket into the third, I would not be adding any more water into the system, and the water would not be transferred more or less efficiently - all I would be doing is transferring water from one container to another. I could eliminate the second bucket (the heat sink) from the process, by pouring the water from the first bucket into the third bucket, and the result would be the same. No water (heat) is added, anywhere, to the system and, two buckets or three (heat sink or no heat sink), the amount of water (or heat) in the system is the same. Bottom line, the heat sink cannot output more heat from itself than was input into it. I'd love it if it could (I would split the discovery of unlimited free energy with you and we'd both be trillionaires), but unfortunately it's not possible.
@NowhereBoundAdventures3 ай бұрын
@@elelegidosf9707 I understand what you are saying. However, I believe the heat sink distributes and radiates the heat into the air around it more quickly and evenly than just the candles alone. Again, just a theory, but that is the reason that I chose to use it. The difference might be marginal but it was worth trying!
@elelegidosf97073 ай бұрын
@NowhereBoundAdventures The difference between not using a heat sink and using one in terms of the air temperature inside the camper will not be marginal - there won't be any difference at all, for the reasons mentioned above. There are 2, and only 2, methods of increasing the temperature in a space: (1) by increasing the amount of heat created in / transferred into the space and (2) decreasing the heat lost from the space. Adding a heat sink does neither of these (because it is not a heat source and it does not prevent heat loss) and therefore it has no effect on the air temperature in the space. Neither does the heat sink transfer the heat into the air more quickly. In fact, it does the opposite, given that the heat has to be transferred _from_ the air into the heat sink in the first place in order to heat it up. The heat sink will distribute the heat to the air slightly more evenly, but only in the small area immediately around the heat sink, and there will be no effect on the temperature in the room. Consider the fact that a large saucepan (which is, in fact, a heat sink) will distribute the heat from a gas burner over a slightly larger area than just the burner alone. However, in terms of heating up the kitchen, it makes no difference to the room temperature if you put a large saucepan on a lit stove, or a small saucepan, or no saucepan at all. The reason? Putting the saucepan on top of the burner adds no extra heat to the system. You may be getting confused because of the fact that radiators _are_ effective at transferring heat from one medium to another for example from water to air in the case of central heating systems, or in the case of vehicle radiators, by means of enlarging the interface area between the water and the air. However, there is no benefit in transferring heat from air into a radiator and then reversing that heat flow back out of the radiator into the exact same air. Again, there are only two ways of increasing the amount of heat in a space: (1) by increasing the amount of heat created in or transferred into the space or (2) decreasing the heat lost from the space. Adding a heat sink does neither of these, and therefore has no effect on the heat in the space.