Pioneer DJ PLX-CRSS12 Review: the DJ Turntable, Redefined? | Beatsource Tech

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Since the original Technics 1200 line was discontinued, there hasn't been a DJ turntable that could truly claim to be the "industry standard," despite a lot of really good contenders on the market. With the PLX-CRSS12, Pioneer DJ is attempting to change that with a hybrid analog and digital design which aims to satisfy turntablists, venues, DVS users, and vinyl die-hards. Mojaxx gives the Pioneer DJ PLX-CRSS12 a detailed review on this episode of #BeatsourceTech.
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0:00 Intro
1:24 Battle-Style Layout
3:39 OLED Display
4:41 Isolation Testing
6:35 Tonearm
7:25 The MAGVEL Clamp
11:40 Pitch Control
12:57 Step Pitch Mode
13:50 Digital DVS Demo
21:06 Pad Controls (Serato)
24:45 Pad Controls (Rekordbox)
26:25 Pricing and Comparisons
29:34 Wrap-Up
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@djkodis
@djkodis 11 ай бұрын
I guess $1400 for a turntable that DOES play records is better than $3000 for a CD player that doesn’t play CDs 😂😂
@MzwakheNgqo
@MzwakheNgqo 11 ай бұрын
Now that you have said that. I feel the pricing is somehow justified.
@DJeMo
@DJeMo 11 ай бұрын
Indeed they removed the most expensive part from the CDJs and added a grand lol
@rashodbacon
@rashodbacon 11 ай бұрын
Well said!
@DJGeorgeDisco
@DJGeorgeDisco 11 ай бұрын
Even cheaper when you consider you only need 1 turntable with instant doubles
@Kypski
@Kypski 11 ай бұрын
haha
@ItsWesSmithYo
@ItsWesSmithYo 11 ай бұрын
If Pioneer gets 12” motorized platters back in clubs they win, period 😎🖤🍭 As a huge fan of the enjoyment of traditional mixing…analog and digital…just wow, crazy they put this amount of effort in…thanks for the deep dive boss 🙌
@ItsWesSmithYo
@ItsWesSmithYo 11 ай бұрын
@@djstuc I left that lollipop emoji for you my friend. Big Hugs 🤗
@DJeMo
@DJeMo 11 ай бұрын
There is no competition in art that's what is wrong with yall, express yourself with no competitive, shit works out better in the end.... Love you
@JL-bu8bz
@JL-bu8bz 11 ай бұрын
Both competitions are good for us, for industries (more jobs) and for the audience. Good New machines always better and good New djs always better too
@buuuuuuuuuuuuuu
@buuuuuuuuuuuuuu 11 ай бұрын
Keep dreaming 😂
@mdzic7628
@mdzic7628 11 ай бұрын
It’ll never happen.
@abumc5104
@abumc5104 11 ай бұрын
Imagine you are a Dj. You will also be booked or have your own party series. What is the most important thing for the guests ? Good music isn't it ? So why keep stepping into the 'money trap', and buy the latest equipment ? If you already got equipment, in this or a similar form. Doesn't it make more sense to discover good new music, buy it and then play it to the guests ? Just my opinion. Sorry, but this isn't a SL1210 MKII 'tank-quality' TECHNICS turntable. Better invest in top music from artists, musicians, producers, remixer, re-editer..., instead of paying X-hundreds & thousands for the latest tech, that even hasn't got the best build quality. As always, again the best overview by Mojaxx about the latest dj tech. Even Pioneer is getting better with their dj tech, still they don't last long. It's overpriced i'd say. In this case, less is more.
@tombyrnerocks
@tombyrnerocks 11 ай бұрын
Yet another review absoslutely smashed to bits Mojaxx 🙌🏻
@1zulul4
@1zulul4 11 ай бұрын
I like your honesty in all your reviews. Never one to sugarcoat the impact to the wallet. Giving a real world cost comparison with other platforms is a highlight
@IamMarkSmith
@IamMarkSmith 11 ай бұрын
This product is a pleasant surprise. With all of the features built into this I feel the price is justified. Thank you for the thorough review, Mojaxx. You really covered all the important details.
@BennyGogz
@BennyGogz 11 ай бұрын
Defo a market for a 45 adapter clamp - great shout on that 👊🏻✊🏻
@djfabiomk2
@djfabiomk2 11 ай бұрын
Excellent Review, congrats dj Mojaxx
@DrudgeAudio
@DrudgeAudio 11 ай бұрын
This is fantastic. Cost is crazy but as you said - there’s no real competition without amalgamating a couple different products, which most of the people who want those features will probably end up doing anyway. Not sure if they will be a big seller to anyone who isn’t a rental company or serious venue, but a lot of pioneer DJ gear seems to be going that way, mainly almost solely due to the price! Great bit of kit, glad they’ve done it. But excited to see the future competition!
@champain7357
@champain7357 11 ай бұрын
Vinyl only guy here. Even I think this is quite interesting device itself (although it is just not for me) and it is really good to see this kind of device developed and released in 2023 where vinyl is almost "retro". I hope it will help to attract some attention of Post 2000 kids playing on all-in-one contollers to vinyl (real or DVS whatever). But what I found from technical point of view here: Mojaxx says about no preamp inside - this is for best sound quality, wires from cartridge directly to RCAs and into your mixer. But at the same time later when describing how internal DVS mode works it is clear that DVS signal is sent via those same Phono wires. So this means there is electrical connection inside the deck to these lines from DVS (controller IC block). And that might affect real vinyl playback with added noise.
@johnnyvergona
@johnnyvergona 11 ай бұрын
"Almost" retro? I'm pretty sure vinyl has been "retro" for a good while now. But I get what you're saying and good point about the possibility of sound degradation. That never occurred to me. But hopefully, the engineers at pioneer have designed these in a way that it has zero effect on sound quality when not engaged.
@OLSKOOLOUTCAST
@OLSKOOLOUTCAST 11 ай бұрын
Mostly vinyl guy here - this device looks great and I'd like to play on this way more than a cdj, however I don't see why the pitch control couldn't have been located in the front somewhere to the left or right of the device so pitch riding could be achieved without one having to reach over the device all night.
@alexwalsh6179
@alexwalsh6179 11 ай бұрын
It's how he has set them up,just turn them round lol
@OLSKOOLOUTCAST
@OLSKOOLOUTCAST 10 ай бұрын
@@alexwalsh6179 that's what I thought but I see the display would b side ways if u turn them around, also would all the writing on it too
@robertschnobert9090
@robertschnobert9090 3 ай бұрын
Why do you call them vinyl? They're called records. I know some kids call them vinyl but if you actually know your stuff you should know the media haha 🌈 ​@@OLSKOOLOUTCAST
@DJStanSteel
@DJStanSteel 11 ай бұрын
Great review as always. I love these and maybe next year will just plunge into getting 2 for home. They sure are sexy and the idea to be able to only have these instead of all the other kits excites me. To be able to play vinyl and use these with digital software is def the ways to go. They look fab!
@djammo8621
@djammo8621 9 ай бұрын
Another great and detailed review. Have been watching a lot of yours recently. I'm sure people would be interested in seeing a 'behind the scenes' video where you show all the kit you use to film and produce your videos with how you normally test and what your studio set up is. Respect
@RedSeventy
@RedSeventy 11 ай бұрын
Best review I'm going to read about this. The final points are so honest and spot on. Now my say: If you already have any of the DVS solutions or another turntables you don't need this unless you are bored and want to try the new toy till you get bored again, which is sadly what a lot of people are about but if you want to introduce yourself in the turntable world coming from other ways of djing, it's maybe better to buy this whole pack and forget about pairing different brand devices to get the same results.
@thedjnamedves
@thedjnamedves 11 ай бұрын
Price wise this makes the most sense for people who don't have turntables yet and want that Phase DJ/Twelves experience. Most in-depth review on the unit this far
@MilanFourTimesEight
@MilanFourTimesEight 11 ай бұрын
Price wise it makes more sense to buy Phase and Reloops 8000
@thedjnamedves
@thedjnamedves 11 ай бұрын
@@MilanFourTimesEight but you have a unit (Phase DJ) which will need replacing every XX years because of the internal battery. Portability wise Phase DJ beats the CRSS12
@thajasondub
@thajasondub 11 ай бұрын
awesome review!!!
@patricevonparis
@patricevonparis 11 ай бұрын
nice one brada Mojaxx excited for zis one
@wikuscombrinck512
@wikuscombrinck512 11 ай бұрын
Really awesome! I really want to have a pair!
@ceeej1290
@ceeej1290 11 ай бұрын
Great review 🙌🙌🙌
@SteveMaggioncalda
@SteveMaggioncalda 11 ай бұрын
another brilliant review. thank you, brother
@jandekok9349
@jandekok9349 11 ай бұрын
And a tip for Pioneer, bring out 2 models, the normal layout model, and a battle layout. because i think the normal layout will be far selling much more ,then the battle layout what is coming now.
@trancevoyagesessions
@trancevoyagesessions Ай бұрын
I’d buy them now if they weren’t configured for battle. Sure you can simple put them facing normally. But the power lead and phono will be at the side facing away from the mixer.. Will the cables even reach? The layout wording will be on its side and as someone with OCD that would drive me nuts 🥜
@DjShaggySrilanka
@DjShaggySrilanka 11 ай бұрын
Looks amazing . I wish Ill own a pair of this soon❤🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
@edvardthomson7264
@edvardthomson7264 11 ай бұрын
Good review all in all... again :) Thanks
@DOPEZ1200
@DOPEZ1200 11 ай бұрын
HERE WE GO YALL
@hot4futureyears2come
@hot4futureyears2come 11 ай бұрын
This is so cool. Great work Pioneer. Also thanks mojaxx. Rane 12 mk2 on DVS is how I use mine.
@suparickyprime
@suparickyprime Ай бұрын
Thank you ! just super helped my choice .....keeping it 12'' Style and Tone arm Available ..happy pioneer pro dj here ! Keep it funky fresh for the future !
@raze94
@raze94 11 ай бұрын
Very thorough review. Thank you
@djlazyboy23
@djlazyboy23 11 ай бұрын
Pioneer for the win again! Nice work fellas! You too Buck!
@trevor_mounts_music
@trevor_mounts_music 11 ай бұрын
I'll just buy phase - hell of a lot cheaper and I can take it with me to gigs and use them with any set of decks 🤷‍♂
@NunyaBusinessEither
@NunyaBusinessEither 11 ай бұрын
I'm already buying a set. But, I'm also going to keep my 1200 MK2's.
@29dj17
@29dj17 11 ай бұрын
Haven’t even watched the video yet and I’m excited. Hope it’s not disappointing lol. Not disappointed at all. Been waiting for new ttbs from pioneer since I’ve had my 1000s since 2015. Price wise, everything is expensive now. This is basically a combination of ttbs, cdjs and controllers all for that price. Will I get it? fudge yes. Also money is not a problem for Mo, he’s just being humble. He’s rich, ignore him 😂. Thanks for the detailed video sir, this really made my morning.
@foodstampz
@foodstampz 11 ай бұрын
Now we need a list of great DJ's that will actually use these features 👌
@viderethevaccinatorfromhol7536
@viderethevaccinatorfromhol7536 11 ай бұрын
Sorry, I am retired.
@JohnEnergy2012
@JohnEnergy2012 11 ай бұрын
Very complete review.... nice.
@GODInTheWax444
@GODInTheWax444 11 ай бұрын
If I could afford it I would buy these in a heartbeat. They look amazing and they are definitely the "top tier" turntable when they hit the shelves. I wish Pioneer had brought them in at $1k though. When you look at the price of a CDJ-3000 though, these are a decent deal for what you get. I'll win the lottery and one of the first things on my list to get will be these bad boys! LOL! Great review Mojaxx!
@djjoeykmusic
@djjoeykmusic 11 ай бұрын
Awesome video Thank you
@DanielleKingdjdinosaur
@DanielleKingdjdinosaur 11 ай бұрын
glad you mentioned the Rane 12 mk 2s which have a time code signal but as you say these also have a tonearm and as i have a lot of vinyl these would be my ultimate deck
@huwwackman_excel
@huwwackman_excel 11 ай бұрын
Amazing decks. Great value for all the tech. Awesome and great review M!
@paddynliamo
@paddynliamo 11 ай бұрын
One thing this doesn't have over technics is how repairable they'll be
@mikeyriv7564
@mikeyriv7564 2 ай бұрын
These things are awesome! I love mine
@blind2heart
@blind2heart 11 ай бұрын
this is sooo sick!
@DJPablotv
@DJPablotv 11 ай бұрын
I'm good I'll stick to my PHASE and my regular turntables. Too Expensive for real.
@RobAlahn
@RobAlahn 10 ай бұрын
GREAT REVIEW! ✊🏽I can’t wait to get my hands on these. The Gaslamp Killer and the anniversary Serato CV flex was a nice in plain sight Easter Egg touch! Looks like Varia Instruments, Breakaweights, Syd Def and my Mastersounds weights are gonna have a new neighbor in the showcase with the Magvel Clamp. I can’t weight!!! 🤣
@8tungBaby
@8tungBaby 11 ай бұрын
I love the Idea they had ! And if I where to buy my first pair of turntables I would love these. But like most Vinyl /DVS Djs I already own a pair of Technics 1200 Mk II (which are proven to be very reliable and easy to service). with my DDj SP1 and Phase (and a Denon DJ DS1 for non Serato mixers) I can play in any Club (that has 2 Turntables and a Mixer) without bringing a ton of equipment. For me the CRSS12 doesn´t offer enough to pay 2800 $ and I don´t understand why they didn´t implement CDJ style MP3 direct import and HID mode via USB. That would´ve made the CRSS 12 something every DJ can work with. I think that would ´ve been very interesting for Club owners. I think like this and at that price point they´re only interesting for Starter Vinyl / DVS DJs that are looking for a new pair of Turntables or extreme gear junkies. or people which don´t have to care for money. But again what a great Idea !
@ianvjones
@ianvjones 11 ай бұрын
So dope!
@Prod.beenie
@Prod.beenie 11 ай бұрын
If these came out 6 months earlier this might have been an option for me before adopting to the Phase family, still a dope product!
@ItsWesSmithYo
@ItsWesSmithYo 11 ай бұрын
Ditto…well I already had 1200’s so probably not yet but I’m pretty psyched we may actually see the form factor back in the club / bar one day…and that when my 1200’s finally croak there’s a modern path…boom dah
@foodstampz
@foodstampz 11 ай бұрын
Same. Pretty wild
@D-One
@D-One 11 ай бұрын
Personally I still prefer Phase, carrying is easy while transporting TT's around is nightmare.
@DJGeorgeDisco
@DJGeorgeDisco 11 ай бұрын
this product just came to market 1 year too late in my opinion. Should have been priced around $1000 max, but hey it is Pioneer....
@djxsquizit
@djxsquizit 11 ай бұрын
Phase is cool but recharging them all the time is a buzz kill.
@tonygardner4077
@tonygardner4077 11 ай бұрын
Love your vid's mate ... chers from NewZealand /)
@mymatedavethedj
@mymatedavethedj 11 ай бұрын
Love it 😍
@djbillybill
@djbillybill 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this amazing vid!!! Not sure if I missed this... Are u able to trigger your dj drops with the pads on the turntable when playing analog vinyl?
@DJSpiderTV
@DJSpiderTV 11 ай бұрын
So dope!! 🔥🔥🔥
@-AC-
@-AC- 11 ай бұрын
I’m very impressed, why wasn’t this available years ago???
@MilanFourTimesEight
@MilanFourTimesEight 11 ай бұрын
it was in the form of Reloop 8000 bundled with Phase
@HarryLoveTV
@HarryLoveTV 11 ай бұрын
Well well well 🤑 I do think the clamp is a very smart addition but the oversight in not including a 45 adapter is a surprising one for a product that has considered so many aspects. I certainly imagine 3rd parties will quickly fill that gap
@simon_100
@simon_100 11 ай бұрын
Based on this review, the best I've seen in recent years. playing vinyl with bass bin feedback in line with the Technics Mk2 is a win, win, win.
@JL-bu8bz
@JL-bu8bz 11 ай бұрын
Are you shure or are you is just a technics lover?
@djxsquizit
@djxsquizit 11 ай бұрын
​@@JL-bu8bzMust likely a Technics ass kisser 😂
@EnochGitongaKimathi
@EnochGitongaKimathi 11 ай бұрын
This was my dream a decade ago. Actually I was hoping the USB was able to carry both audio and control data so you could replace the RCA and do away with them completely, for a neater setup have the mixer act like a USB hub and plug the decks to it via USB so that there is only 1 USB cable going to the computer: 3 modes (RCA Only, RCA+USB, USB Only).
@jsobrino
@jsobrino 11 ай бұрын
you can do that with Phase and any mixer with a USB hub on it, but then you also need the phase controller on your table in addition to the rest of your setup
@thelabby9998
@thelabby9998 11 ай бұрын
The issue with sending everything over usb will be regular vinyls... How do you cut these with the mixer? Digitally? You will need a dedicated mixer or audio interface for audio output so again cables... OTOH if you are going to send "whatever" over usb connection HID is better than audio or better said you can send encoder position from the spindle into usb for later decoding into the app (think in how a regular mouse work) but then you are ditching all the internal power from the turntable and putting it into the dj app which needs to make an unnecessary conversion (digital encoder into playhead control of audio timecode into decoding (audio timecode requires decoding) to manage... playhead? Just convert digital encoder data into playhead movement and avoid any other conversion and you know what? That's what Twelve does... but as I commented in earlier post Mojaxx find it less natural than the audio timecode into app (decoding) approach but that isn't related to HID directly but how dj apps developers coded HID vs Audio timecode and resolution in both cases. Audio timecode (and specially NoiseMap) have a high resolution against digital encoders (Phase is an exception because is earth field magnet one like a compass) making the "feel" of HID solutions worst than audio timecoded based ones. So not a easy problem to solve (sadly)...
@jsobrino
@jsobrino 11 ай бұрын
@@thelabby9998 the digital signal thru usb and the regular vinyl thru rca would be ideal imo
@EnochGitongaKimathi
@EnochGitongaKimathi 11 ай бұрын
@@thelabby9998 There is nothing overly complicated in implemtning a device like the PLX Crss12 to have 3 modes: 1.Digital Only, 2.Hybrid and 3.Analog Only. With Digital Only the USB protocol can be used to send timecode to the DVS. Analog Data is easily converted to Digital Data. This conversion usually happens on the Mixer or a separate Audio Interface. However, there is no reason why the conversion can not be done on the turntable. The Digital Mixer can have a USB-C hub where you plug in the turntables and are able to mix or convert, digital and analog data (if playing an actual vinyl through an analog connection like RCA). Since we have the USB-C port and the RCA ports available on the Turntable, there is absolutely no reason it can't be done. We just need a digital mixer with a USB hub that can accept USB-C alongside the traditional analog connections.
@beatzandwheels
@beatzandwheels 11 ай бұрын
@@EnochGitongaKimathi You should develop one then mate...^^ "digital AND analog data". lol. You still need RCAs to get the analog "data" - its an analog audio signal bruv... to the mixer. Youve written so much and explained so little... ppl like you are really not helping anybody.
@Swiftstyle
@Swiftstyle 11 ай бұрын
Great review Mojax. Do we know if they have reused the PLX motor for this unit? I’m concerned with the torque compensation problems we experienced when applying pressure at lower pitches.
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 11 ай бұрын
They've definitely put work into the performance at the lower end of that 50% range. They heard ya.
@DJFunkyNutti
@DJFunkyNutti 11 ай бұрын
Dope. Things moving so fast. Without money you will be left behind.
@british31
@british31 11 ай бұрын
As an MKII 1200 owner, the little bit about Phase at the end has me looking it up! I got the wheels, time to upgrade!
@robertfleischmann4119
@robertfleischmann4119 11 ай бұрын
Phase is great! I've been spinning vinyl since the 90's and Phase WAS the upgrade that we've been looking for! You'll be impressed.
@emmanueljoya
@emmanueljoya 11 ай бұрын
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Congratulations from Playa del Carmen Mexico
@MrliquidDj
@MrliquidDj 11 ай бұрын
I like your honesty! Instead others where just because came out and it was sent out for review regardless if it is trash or not they speak beautifully about the equipment! Thts why I love this guy! Good example the Opus! When It came out he was really straight fwd with his points n opinions! Thts when He earned my respect and attention! Meanwhile others.... speaking love things! A good example is: they said thar love the position of the pads on previous releases on the equipment! I love how they forget what they said long time ago... then the new equioment was release and now they love the new pads position because the other was in the way and the new one has a better layout!!! Sooo... no matter what... in future releases "the others" would love it regardless in favor to manufactures giving them oppprtunity to review! This guy here! Does bot F care! If you send him something!!!! He will not sugar your ears just because thata what manufactures want to hear! Thnks for your reviews! You are my only guy to go to for dj reviews!
@djrohan_presents
@djrohan_presents 11 ай бұрын
I love the tech innovation aspect of these decks and would love to own them ….but…… I’m struggling to see what problem they solve and who they are targeted at ( other than those with money to burn and GAS). As you pointed out there are cheaper packages that offer 95% of this functionality and I don’t think the new features push the creativity envelope that much. Does the pure vinyl performance stack up to the best of the rest? Thanks for your great reviews as always.
@ItsDJOBie
@ItsDJOBie 11 ай бұрын
Best new piece of hardware since phase
@jeffmireillemckay1077
@jeffmireillemckay1077 2 ай бұрын
Waiting for my first one to arrive. Plan on using with the xz controller
@duczmal
@duczmal 11 ай бұрын
Best review, thnaks!
@GaiusIncognitus
@GaiusIncognitus 11 ай бұрын
Wow. Before i watched this review, I said id rather do rp 8000 and phase (which im literally doing already). Mojaxx genuinely made me respect this machine more than i expected.
@jayt.22
@jayt.22 8 ай бұрын
Great review! May I ask, is there much of a sound difference between analog and digital? You know, like how you can usually tell when someone has just played a record after a digital track, or vice-versa? I know there is a mixer (can't think of the brand) that has an inbuilt compressor that you can tweak. Is that something that would be necessary if one opted to buy one of these units? Thanks for your time!
@EMBEEclassic
@EMBEEclassic 11 ай бұрын
Did they fix the tonearm bearing wobble issues all the Super OEM turntables have? There is a small play if you pull/push on the tonearm.
@Doad1077
@Doad1077 11 ай бұрын
I have a pair of PLX1000 & DDJ RZ as my main home set up and a hardly used DJM 900NXS2 In its box. I am definitely thinking of getting a pair of these breaking out the 900NXS2 as my home set up and bumping the RZ and PLX 1000’s.
@trancevoyagesessions
@trancevoyagesessions Ай бұрын
How are the 1000s?
@scratchgonzo
@scratchgonzo 11 ай бұрын
I'm one of the guys who pinches the spindle to mix, I'd love to see one of these hybrid turntables come out where you can still touch the spindle. Looks like a great unit but I'm sure like every other turntable ever the mk2 will be even better
@johnkiz9310
@johnkiz9310 11 ай бұрын
If you're Fred Flintstone, the 1200 is still king!
@stirlingpickett5253
@stirlingpickett5253 11 ай бұрын
I'm a spindle pincher too and proud of it
@stirlingpickett5253
@stirlingpickett5253 11 ай бұрын
I love my three sets of Technic 1200 turntables
@stirlingpickett5253
@stirlingpickett5253 11 ай бұрын
I love my three sets of Technic 1200 turntables
@stirlingpickett5253
@stirlingpickett5253 11 ай бұрын
I love my three sets of Technic 1200 turntables
@estupedude21
@estupedude21 11 ай бұрын
Wooow... I'm sold
@guillermomiranda_gm
@guillermomiranda_gm 6 ай бұрын
@djcitytv any video coming out soon about the audio quality performance between the DJ PLX-CRSS12 and the technics SL1200 GR as anaglog? Thank you!
@metiendopua
@metiendopua 11 ай бұрын
Always the Bests Reviews!
@bartykutz
@bartykutz 11 ай бұрын
id love to see bars scoop these up as standard gear
@ShineRecordings
@ShineRecordings 11 ай бұрын
can you use any loop function?
@Peter-mo3pr
@Peter-mo3pr 11 ай бұрын
I've been pondering over getting an old refurbished and resprayed paid of 1210's mk2's. Can you tell me how the platter compares with the torque setting in low? I realise the pitch will feel different but I'm used to that now. Thanks for such an extensive review!
@djwoody249
@djwoody249 7 ай бұрын
I'm really thinking of getting these. What I would also need though is a DJ mixer with a really good phono preamp - any recommendations ?
@MichaelRoehr
@MichaelRoehr 11 ай бұрын
Pretty impressive, full stop. Pricey - but expected with Pioneer. I'd love to play around with a set of these, but with someone else's money. *edit* and wow the flexibility of the setup is COOL
@abrahamrios6503
@abrahamrios6503 11 ай бұрын
This is great, I would have a hard time using it. I don't set up my turntables battel style. I use them the way intended. I am not a rough houser (beat juggler), or whatever they are calling it these days. For them, it may be a game changer. I am a blender that uses an analog rotary mixer. The layout doesn't work for me. Really great concept, though. Something I wish the Rane 12 mk2 could do. For now, until I can start my rebuild of Techincs 1200 mk 2, I will stick to my Numark TTX1. They have been a work horse for me for over a decade now!!!! Again, sir, you're the man!!!!! Thanks for keeping us dj informed!!!!!! Loving my Reloop Flux!!!!! I have it going through my Mastersounds Raduis 4V.
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 11 ай бұрын
The layout is the same, it’s only the markings that are rotated! I bet if you used one (non battle style) you’d be absolutely fine on it.
@DjRiderTheDragon
@DjRiderTheDragon 10 ай бұрын
Look good mate
@therealsofiene
@therealsofiene 11 ай бұрын
this is a rane twelve mk2 that that can play real vynil and that costs twice the price. thank you pioneer dj
@djkueba
@djkueba 11 ай бұрын
LFG this looks dope
@skindawg3615
@skindawg3615 11 ай бұрын
I used to put warped records in airing cupboard. It works.
@Naotaku
@Naotaku 11 ай бұрын
This is excellent. Sending DVS audio signals is such an obvious feature, I wonder why nobody’s done it before. It can be easily done with non-spinning jog wheels as well, but these are great turntables. /need 😇
@thelabby9998
@thelabby9998 11 ай бұрын
Denon did it with Hybrid mode and also Phase of course...
@Naotaku
@Naotaku 11 ай бұрын
@@thelabby9998 Phase is native Serato signal? I didn't know that.
@salvaavlas5757
@salvaavlas5757 11 ай бұрын
Still rocking Numark TTX Analog and DVS but this is interesting thxs
@XX-121
@XX-121 11 ай бұрын
i would look at some reloop rp-8000mk2 before this if you're not gonna get tech's. the .02% on the 8000's vs.1% pitch resolution on ttx is really nice and gets a lot closer to technics level of beat matching. (i use to own ttx's) because with this thing for one i wouldn't want to have to deal with battle style layout and also no vinyl dj is gonna want to have to deal with that clamp thing every time you switch records. that would get old real fast. also i'm taking it they have corrected the cogging issue that the plx-1000's have that makes them bad for mixing?
@salvaavlas5757
@salvaavlas5757 11 ай бұрын
@@XX-121 I never needed in my life a 0,02% pitch precision ! At the contrary, the 50% and the key lock is useful !
@XX-121
@XX-121 11 ай бұрын
@@salvaavlas5757 you play records at 50% pitch? i take it you don't play out at clubs
@thegreatgasby4845
@thegreatgasby4845 5 ай бұрын
@thegreatgasby4845 il y a 0 seconde Very interesting review. Thank you very much. Does that mean that the plx crss12 can not play HID via USB only ? Does it only play digital via DVS and RCA ? And second question please : is it definitely unable to control deck 3 and 4 (apart from the pad section) ? Thx again
@djlokey2820
@djlokey2820 11 ай бұрын
My next investment!!!
@mrsaintghdj6518
@mrsaintghdj6518 11 ай бұрын
Nice one
@DJPellevin
@DJPellevin 11 ай бұрын
Will the padcontrols work with a rekordbox produkt like CDJ-3000, XDJ-XZ, Opus Quad etc? Or do you need a computer?
@thisistalay
@thisistalay 11 ай бұрын
1200 all the way!
@andyjohnson9714
@andyjohnson9714 3 ай бұрын
Nice review. How did you get so skinny?
@deejayduy
@deejayduy 11 ай бұрын
Those are dope.. I heard about this 2 years ago when I got the Rane Twelves MKII.. I love the Twelves and they work great!.. I would get the Pioneer but its hella pricey.. i still play vinyl and my 1200mk2 is perfect but this combo turntable/DVS/HID is awesome and super convenient.. But to be honest.. the Twelves still works great since i rarely play vinyl on my gigs.. Maybe wait for the Mk2?
@HotMix5
@HotMix5 6 ай бұрын
Hey Mojaxx, I have a Rotary Mixer and can't get Serato or RB to work... Am I missing something? I can hear a tone and It reads the BPM of the loaded song But I can't get audio to play or make the Waveforms move. I had no issues when connected to a digital mixer but The Master Sounds 4V Mk2 is not working... Please help! Do I need to use a Flux box? Thanks in advance!
@KristianValdini
@KristianValdini 3 ай бұрын
You will need a soundcard (like the Pioneer Interface2) between an analogue mixer and the CRS12's... I have a Mastersounds Radius Two mk2, and noticed they then have a horrible drift when trying to subtly adjust tracks on longer 'blends' (House style) using Rekordbox. Have some new Ortofon Digital mk2 cartridges on the way to see if this issue was just my v.old carts/styli impacting the signal into Rekordbox (hope so!).
@HotMix5
@HotMix5 3 ай бұрын
@@KristianValdini I put in a FLUX box and it works pretty well with Serato. I have the Rekordbox interface but haven't hooked it up yet. Thanks for your response.
@asmkawsar
@asmkawsar 10 ай бұрын
Very detailed review as always 🖤🖤🖤
@jmfbabyj
@jmfbabyj 11 ай бұрын
Love these….
@davidmeredith471
@davidmeredith471 11 ай бұрын
Can you control more than one deck in rekordbox or serato on these using the deck button?
@BKJ-88
@BKJ-88 11 ай бұрын
A non battle style layout would get me interested.
@djchupa69
@djchupa69 11 ай бұрын
When do they hit stores ???? I’m buying immediately
@djferren
@djferren 11 ай бұрын
Pioneer always have had a high price point. But I'm not convinced that it should replace my RP8000mk2. CRSS12 has more going for it, but how much of that is really worth the upgrade. That is the question you have to ask yourself.
@usoygur
@usoygur 11 ай бұрын
i would like to buy rp8000 but i have mk2. is any diffrent for the pitch and tork sensitivity ?
@djferren
@djferren 11 ай бұрын
@@usoygur you can only buy mk2 the mk1 is not in Production anymore
@usoygur
@usoygur 11 ай бұрын
I wanted to ask, if you tried the rp 8000 and the technics 1210 mk, is there a quality difference between them in terms of pitch and torque? i have mk2 now@@djferren
@alfonsolizarazo9806
@alfonsolizarazo9806 11 ай бұрын
RP7000mk2 owner and not convinced either. I do play house and DVS classic style, I’m happy with my gear, it works for me. But I like the fact that this will get more people and artists into vinyl…maybe?
@usoygur
@usoygur 11 ай бұрын
@@alfonsolizarazo9806 When you use a dvs, have you ever had any problems with missing pitch or similar on the rp7000? MK7 or rp7000 can be preferred rather than paying that much money, I have the interface with vinly. Thank you
@craigbishop4644
@craigbishop4644 11 ай бұрын
Are these DVS device unlock for Rekordbox?
@gtubgle
@gtubgle 11 ай бұрын
Pioneer just took over all levels of DJ hardware
@alexg8957
@alexg8957 11 ай бұрын
Thanks to Denon.
@DJFlex1
@DJFlex1 11 ай бұрын
@@alexg8957no bro. Thanks to the SLDZ,
@DJeMo
@DJeMo 11 ай бұрын
There will never be anything like technics turntables, it's been like that since they popped and it ain't ever gonna change...
@jonconnor9601
@jonconnor9601 11 ай бұрын
Mental I had this idea over ten years ago, I went to both Pioneer and various other companies with my designs, even made a seminar at BPM shows, and was basically laughed at, when I wanted a product that could play both my vinyl and digital in one unit with the added extra of enabled own brand design on control disc, goddam should have put a patent on it 😅 Finally, it's here in early form looking forward to testing this
@Divadisco
@Divadisco 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video Mojaxx! I personally regret that the turntable is oriented battle style and that it does not have the 78 rpm function... I'm actually going to buy one deck to complete my two 1210mk2 and this Pioneer would have been the one for me if ir hasn't been for those two points. So I think I will stick with my first idea and purchase a 1210mk7.
@ingenfestbrems
@ingenfestbrems 11 ай бұрын
Plx 1000 yeah. Great deck. I swapped it in for a 1988 technics 1210mk2, just because,, it’s the original.. but i miss the plx1000 it just had the right looks
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