Should I flash all my Vistas and start using the Goggles 2 as my daily driver? Or stick with the V2 and WTFOS?

I'm still rocking V1 goggles and loving them 😉

Holy shit I'm not updating shit till I watch this again sober tomorrow

@16:25 😂 only flew 3 packs in freezing cold but goggles 2 and vista feels really good! Also running full crossfire locked @150hz. O3 looks crazy good from vids I've been seeing. Thanks for the summary 👊

We should start calling the "Vistas" and the others of that generation "02s". Its an accurate description, and it designates that it is in fact an older tech.

Many thanks. You answered all my questions and more. And some great tips as usual.

I see now; the goggles 2 and the new air unit are exclusive to each other out of the box. Thank you Mr. Bardwell, I have learned something today.

DJI tech is good but its so complicated when you have a lot of different drone (1s whoop,LR 7inch, 5inch, 4inch LR, 1s toothpick) and more if your into fixed wing and rc boats. for me at this time if WALKSNAIL system i simplier and more suited for this hobby paired with ELRS.

Ha! Yeah, FPV is more fun today than ever before..

I love the cake analogy haha

Hi Josh. Just finished watching your video, great info, thank you! Newbie drone owner here. I own the original Mavic Air 1, I have very little flight time on it since purchase, because using my phone as a screen is difficult, so I fly like a granny, lol. Will this goggle be compatible with my unit? I'm still trying to figure out all the variations, and models of the DJI lineup, so I'm confused. I watch tons of you videos, so you are my go to guru for all things drone. Thanks for all of your videos.

Has anyone found disappointing that you lose your drone linking when you switch between V2 Goggles and Goggles 2 and viceversa. Oh well, DJI did exceptionally good with this cross compatibility debunking ALL those influencers that implied DJI was going to obsolete Vistas and Air Units, and gave us even full “Canvas” or whatever the new name is. Thank you Josh again, you’re hands down the Jedi of all related to the FPV world.

i just bought a vista and use v1 goggles. I would have probably updated them to whatever was newest upon receiving it this week only to be super confused when they don't bind.

...... when I first heard about this "compatibility" update I thought it was dumb. Yep, still do and I'm not even affected by it.

I'm satisfied with my 'old' DJI Goggles V2 and Caddx Vista's. WTF OS provides the one missing feature I wanted. I won't be buying any more DJI stuff. DJI is now dead to me. I don't want fewer and fewer features at higher cost with half-assed backwards compatibility. The fact that new DJI firmware doesn't support INAV / Ardupilot is a dealbreaker for me.

Thanks for this video! In your opinion, is it worth upgrading the v2 goggles to these new Googles 2?? I own the Avata, Dji fpv drone, quads with Vistas and OG air units.

I really hope they release an update for the V2 goggles to allow binding to that new firmware. I would consider buying the goggles 2 if I knew I could use my old v2s as spectators for friends

good update for me as I only have analog rn B)

I have 2 V2 goggles, like 20 something Vistas and was going to get the goggles 2 and a few 03 airs when they got backwards compatibility hoping they would all work together seamlessly but now I'm thinking they might be better as separate systems.

More testing! When the update make the V1 Vistas akt lit the O3 AU will the penetration also improve? That would be nice. Sadly i can not use my V1 Goggles together with Goggles 2.... DJI has again managed to create a wedge between the FPV pilots. Two years ago between DJI and everything else (analogue) and today even between their own products V1 and O3. So as long as you fly alone everything is fine, but isn't the hobby just about having fun together?

Thank you! 🥰 Love your work! :D

What a freaking mess, DJI! 😬 Thanks, Joshua!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

You are not alone. I grabbed a pair of the G2 goggles with the Avata and was hoping for eventual backwards compatibility. And now they are! Except I wasn't ready to abandon my V2 goggles. I have a son who also flies with me and was going to finally start updating his drones with DJI vistas as well as have him be able to fly my vista drones with his own goggles so we can have a fun digital drone day! NOT! Now, I realize we will have to split our fleet where he has his drones, and I have mine but, thats not very fun. The fact that we would have to maintain 2 different firmwares for our stable of drones kind of blows. Not to mention, you didn't talk about spectating. The majority of the group I fly with are still on V2 goggles and will probably stick to that. So now they cannot spectate me anymore if Im on the latest firmware with no V2 support correct? Yea, its not just YT influencers. Plenty of us were hoping to expand our options with this update, it seems, in DJI ridiculousness again, they have killed off that possibility. Profit-wise it makes sense but once again makes no sense to the actual pilots that supports them. Just my 2 cents. I think I have been flying as long as you have Joshua so Im happy to have a DJI system like this after years of dealing with analog but seriously, DJI always seems to do something to screw us in the end. Oh well. I have some choices to make. Maybe I sell off the G2s and buy a used pair of V2s and call it a day. But I really love the form factor of the G2s. Everyone talks about the terrible fit, but I guess my face is shaped just right because the G2s fit my face fine.

Dam I would love the V2 googles with the smaller controller.

@DJI please add manual power limits and 8 Raceband channels to all of the Air units, we need it to fly with other pilots using other video transmission systems. thank you.

Is the same video series good to watch with the building the xilo v2 kit you made?

I upgraded the DJI V1 controller to RadioMaster metal Gimbals and love them. The good gimbals won't fit in the DJI Controller 2. And, I don't want the extra weight of separate receivers. I guess I"m stuck with V1.

Bought DJI FPV. Wondering why the update allows the controller 2 to bind but doesn't allow the goggles to connect anymore. Would have been perfect if the controller 2 would work along with the Goggles V2.

Hey Joshua, I actually tried updating my goggles v2 on new software and didn’t work. I tried on the FPV series assistant and that worked. I also have the issue with running macOS, goggles v2 struggle to update but I made a video on that with the solution. I have updated to the latest firmware successfully with that method with my v2 Goggles.

I'm just learning FPV with my dji Avata and want to get into th fpv hobby proper, which new rtf fpv quad should I get to bind with controller 2 & goggles 2?

I’m guessing maybe they don’t have enough flash space to embed both protocol / signal processing in the vistas ?

Great analysis. I love you. First

I have the original Mavic Air. Will these goggles work with it? Or do you recommend some that will work?

With DJI there's always a catch. Still waiting for hdzero.

I have v1 goggles and use eLRS so it’s over $1000 Australian to get the Goggles 2, so don’t see any reason to upgrade currently.

So... I have 3 quads, 3 Vistas, 1 Googles v2 with antenna upgrades, 1200mW hack and so on. I will not change to O3 units because I need to change all the frames and it's not worth it because I'm always use a GoPro Bones (hobbyist cinematic footage and sometimes a little of freestyle) and I'm happy with them, but I'm questioning about this update. If I buy Googles 2 and flash all my Vista units, I will gain more range or penetration? Or will be basically the same that I have now? I mean... the firmware only gave us compatibility, or "unlock" certain RF ability to work more as an O3 unit with a little gain in range and penetration? If we will gain range and penetration only buying Googles 2 using our Vista units, maybe it's worth it. Otherwise, I will keep with all my hardware, because works flawless. You're a great man Joshua, the best KZfaqr and teacher BY FAR. We always learn something with you. Keep the good work!!

I’d love to know the performance difference of 1200mw with the new RF system

If this new firmware makes vista / air unit more like O3, why should v2 not be able to connect, as the V2 are compatible with the O3 Air unit? Seems like a deliberate, and if so malicious choice by Dji to forcebly remove back compatibility with V2?

Im sticking with my v1 goggles on my air units and have goggles 2 only for Avata. If u switch modes back and forth u need to bind them all again. Dont know if u said that or dont

I’m just getting into this. If I have goggles v2, controller 2. Am I better off getting quad with o3 unit?

Sounds like the cheaper V2 Goggles are the best halfway solution

Wish I would have seen this video earlier. I just got V2 goggles, and updated everything. I could not for the life of me bind to my vista.....I had no idea why until I downgraded it.

@JOSHUABARDWELL will the new firmware allow v2 goggles users to use the Grey fpv controller with the Vista? Or does it still remain the same with using the black Mode 2. It would be nice if Vista and the new 03 with the v2 goggles being in sync to use with Grey fpv remote. otherwise you have to carry two controllers.

Full MSP display support for FETtec Alpha as well. Works beautifully!

Wow Dji is one smart company. They purposely do that to force folks to upgrade and buy their new product in a since. I knew there would be a catch to all this compatibilities

Thank dear..one more time!! ..any news If googles 2 are compatibles with dji fpv drone?

lol 😂 why am i not surprised of what will happen

How is the performance difference on the new googles vs V2 with the Vista or original airunit.

Dear Joshua, I have the DJI Goggles V2 and DJI FPV air units. Everything fine. Now I have ordered a DJI O3. Which kind of firmware do You recommend if I would use both air units with the V2 goggles & I like to go long range.? Thanks Elmar

I've been using the black FPV v1 controller and really like it but after they stopped selling it I realized what must be happening and bought TX16S Mark 2 to replace it. Still in process of upgrading all my drones to ELRS and it is an upgrade for sure but I'm still a bit annoyed that DJI effectively turned that controller to scrap with this decision. I had been planning on selling it but who would buy it at this point? Had I known this I would have been faster with ELRS upgrade but as it is the black controller has been great so didn't see a reason. Stupid me. Because of all of this I'm not sure if I'm staying with DJI in the long run. I don't want to end up into a situation where I buy something from them and year later it is obsolete and not supported anymore.

Hi JB! My house got burglarized, they took everything (that includes all my fpv gear) my awesome friend gave me his Stingy V2 with a Caddx Vista rocking a Nebula Pro and my best friend is going to give me a new set of goggles. What should I pick? the Goggles 2 or the FPV V2?

I did this update on one of my Vistas but had to roll it back. I lost video twice and had to disarm, not sure why. It was easy to roll back and flew fine what I was back on the V2 goggles.

hi Joshua nice video.Why you have g2 and v2 goggles?The most people of fpv have one pair of goggles so dji with the firmwares you can choose what you want to use.i dont understand what is the problem.Also the avata drone it is not a custom drone its like a mavic.If people not want the restructions and the laws they can make a diy fpv drone.I dont understand the problem.

I think i’ll upgrade my Vistas for use with goggles 2 and leave my air units on the old one for use with v2s. That way i can feel like i’m still using my old gogs

Will there still be the bind bug while switching between O3, DJI FPV and Vista? If you say the vistas behave like the O3, I still bind them AirUnits?

Will/do the Goggles 2 link to the FPV Live app on the first generation smart controller?

So originally I thought that RID wouldn’t affect the goggles or FPV system, BUT the requirements for an arm signal from a flight controller means DJI intends to challenge any ground vehicle or other use case. I now won’t be surprised if goggles and/or air units start requiring your phone be plugged in to operate…

DJI is the "monkey's paw" of drone companies. Ask them for something and you'll get it...just not what you were expecting.

Thank you JB for the video. Hope i can get some help. I think i might have a problem like so many people, i have a drone with the vista air unit, v2 goggles and black v1 dji controller wich is flying perfectly, and i got a new drone with the O3 air unit with a RadioMaster TX16S controller with ERLS, but here’s my doubt; I didn’t buy the goggles 2, i’m planning on staying with the v2 goggles as long as i can, ¿Will the updates on the v2 goggles or the vista unbind my previous drone from the black controller?

Yeah, this is a huge problem for those who own all those goggles and controllers. 1st world problems!

Man I like the V2 big screen like being at the movies they need 2 models a box oled version for cruising and people who prefer box , push the goggles 2 firmware towards racing faster flying with the smaller screens I really get annoyed with the small round lens like you can never get edges perfect for racing you want just the center clear

I just flew a Vista on the new goggles today. I was sure I had seen the camera orientation on the panel that opens when you slide up on the touch pad. I’m not much of a content creator but not happy that my v1 goggles do not work without flashing back the firmware. This is better than DJI doing nothing but I was hoping I would be able to use the old goggles for audience mode ride alongs. I’m hoping that there will be future updates to the older goggles but it probably will not happen. This B-day cake was gluten free.

So I'm still screwed with my old DJI box type googles except for with my Mavic, right?

I have the V2 goggles and the biggest gripe is getting jittery video recordings while using rocksteady, even though the video live feed is smooth, also did not recognise my TBS crossfire receiver no matter what uart it was on after putting the code in the cli to use the osd, got round this by switching crossfire to sbus. Having to rebind when switching back to use my old vistas is a pain too. Not perfect by a long way

Honestly it could’ve been much worse. I need to know if the penetration on the vista is just as good in 03 mode so I can pull the trigger on the new goggles.

If you wanna record a video with an air unit using the DJI goggles 2, you have to start the recording before taking off, and the video for some reason looks in slow motion and has no OSD.

I saw Ians video and I want to mention the one thing I’ve thought of. If you want to use your older goggles v2 as audience mode for a spectator to use, that makes it annoying.

Did you notice the update for avata that says Remote ID?

people it screws over, people who bought the dji fpv drone combo, i have the v2 goggles and the v2 gray remote and want to bind those 2 products to vista, air units and 03 but i cant without getting goggles 2. I'm annoyed that dji did not consider the v2 and controller 2 to be in the same tech tree even tho they literally come in the dji fpv combo

Good job with the table overview. And a bit of a bummer how they did it. Probably would've been okay if they let the V2 goggles be compatible. Wouldn't mind ditching the black controller but not the v2 goggles. And the goggles 2 should support the fpv drone. So that's still holding me back from getting the Goggles 2, the Avata and the O3.

So if I don't do the update, I can use my V2 Goggles with the new air unit and obvusulsy the original air unit or the Vista unit

Surprise ! DJI pulled a DJI ! Go figure...

Can I also use the DJI Integra Goggles with an old DJI Air Unit?

If the goggles 2 worked with my smart controller and had video out WITHOUT the OSD I'd be swayed a bit more.

So if you upgrade to the new firmware the black Tx controller will not work? If not which controller would you use?

I mean it's a different protocol entirely, I wouldn't really expect them to support everything at once, they're not running Apple M1 chips on these things after all 🤷🏻‍♂️

If the power in a updated vista can not be change, what's the output power? If the the drone is disarm the output power its 25mw? Thanks

DJI makes some great products but, OMG, their software/firmware infrastructure is a complete mess. It feels like every single product is built in a vacuum and then they try to figure out how it works with the rest of the lineup after release.

Hi thanks for the very informing video Do you know if the goggles 2 is compatible with DJI FPV?

C8 on excel chart is any news to be YES in future? Is any upgrade coming about unlock the compatibility to yes on C8? After the firmware to be compatible V2 GOGGLES with Grey V2 Controller?

Has anything changed for the better in the last 5 month's?

As always awesome video, nice to know you could now go backward but with some complexity, As my drones are all vistas in the meantime. only own v2 goggles. I'll stay clear for now till i get the goggles 2. will we see more range on the video signal? once we connect our old vista to the goggles 2, or guessing not possible as O3 has that new module

Does it matter what firmware you have on the controller 2? I updated my goggles and og air unit,binded the goggles and controller,I get video but the controller is not working,in betaflight nothing moves when I move the sticks/buttons.

What about the OG dji fpv drone, does it work with the goggles 2? If I want to loose the v2 goggles for the vistas and want to use goggles 2 for everything can/will it be able to run the potato drone?

What about thr Remote ID issue with the Avata? You didn't mention that I don't think.

Joshua, what do you think? Why didn't DGI make Goggles 2 compatible with DJI FPV drone?

I think the new update should be great, but is the lack of the power hack and upgradeable antennas worth the upgrade? That is my issue going forward.

I was looking to get the googles 2 and keep my googles v2 for people to use for "ride along's". guess not

and..I'm sitting here thinking what the hell googles is better to buy now..V2 or googles 2? I don't want blurry corners like on my old HD2.. any advice?

Does the Kiss FC work with the updated vista OSD? And if it doesn’t, does it at least provide the same information it did with the old system?

Management: How can we increase sales? Sales: Lets make an update that makes (backwards) compatibility so complex and weird that customer gonna buy new stuff. Management: deal!

Can other users with V1 or v2 goggles view flashed AU/vista units in audience mode? It's fun to watch others during FPV meets.

My Vista doesn't output anything through the SBUS port when in Goggles 2 mode while using the V2 transmitter. It doesnt matter whether I have DJI Fast baud or standard mode set. The transmitter is bound, and is showing up on the OSD as it has link, but BF configurator shows no channels moving when I move the sticks.

If i have goggles 2 & o3 on my quad, are my friends (who have v2 goggles & vistas) able to view my o3 in audience mode?

I do not own a drone. I am researching my first drone, a lot of what's being said here is very confusing for me as a complete noob. I have one question that will help me with my initial FPV drone.... will the Goggle's 2 (the new ones) work with either the avatar and the older dji FPV drone?

I still have the DJI FPV drone, why not compatible with the goggles 2 🤷‍♂️

Now I am scratching my my head wondering if the "full power mode" you mentioned in a wing without a flight controller will work with the TBRC HD OSD board. The board emulates a FC in that is sends a arming command via MSP to the VTX. It should work technically speaking but I currently only have V2 Googles. I don't own Goggles 2 and I don't have a 03 airunit yet to test. Anyone who has a new system that flies fixed wing hit me up so I can get a board to you for some R&D and beta testing. We do have a new V2 HD OSD in development that should be out in the new year which adds current sensors and a BEC on the board. Things changing so fast I can't keep up LOL.

I see V2 firmware V01.06.0000 is now the latest. Did they fix the V2 to now work with Vista, Air Units, etc after they are updated ? I am avoiding updating my vistas and Air units because I want to use my V2 goggles for the DJI FPV, all vistas, air units, and O3 air units. And only use Goggles 2 for Avata. When I plugged in my Vista, Assistant started to force an update, and started the download without giving a choice of versions. I unplugged immediately, all all is good. vista still connects to V2s.

Hi, I didn't understand very well but, please let me know if the new Dji Googles 2 are compatible with the Fpv system that is mounted on (OMPHobby ZMO Vtol with Caddx Air Unit and Dji Controller V1). Thanks in advance for your reply.

Thanks for the video Joshua. I wonder how the new DJI protocol behaves with many pilots flying at the same time. It seems that you cannot choose manually your channel. Do you have an idea about that?