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Djokovic Outmatched By Alcaraz In Wimbledon Final | Three Ep. 159

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Three — The Tennis Show

Three — The Tennis Show

Күн бұрын

In a remarkable effort, Novak Djokovic reached the finals of Wimbledon five weeks after having knee surgery. But, Carlos Alcaraz proved to be too much in the final. Join Gill, Amy, and Joel as they dig into Novak's Wimbledon, Rafael Nadal's summer tennis, and the upcoming Olympic Games -- all on the latest edition of "Three -- The Tennis Show."
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Three is a show about Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic. These competitively dominant tennis icons have been a lifeline to millions of fans around the world. We look to tell their stories through discussions of tennis history, tactics, psychology, technique and more.
California-based Joel Drucker has been writing about tennis for nearly 40 years, his work appearing in such outlets as Tennis Channel, Tennis.com, Racquet and a host of general interest media, including the New York Times, HBO, CBS, Cigar Aficionado, Men's Journal and People Magazine. Author of the book, "Jimmy Connors Saved My Life," Joel is also a historian-at-large for the International Tennis Hall of Fame.
Amy Lundy is a reporter whose work has been featured on ESPN, CNN and The Golf Channel. She is Director of Films at The Tennis Congress.
Gill Gross is the host of Monday Match Analysis. His weekly KZfaq show, which analyzes ATP matches and news, has amassed over 5,000 subscribers.
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@angelmatos9143
@angelmatos9143 Ай бұрын
Their 14-minute opening game was a sports moment masterpiece. 😂
@br1729
@br1729 Ай бұрын
Like Hagler-Hearns round 1. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/frJilJVenbWslJs.htmlsi=vjOqF0Xv7twJh13y
@pauljohnson6019
@pauljohnson6019 Ай бұрын
That missed volely from Novak at deuce was what cost him, not saying he would have won the match, but would have made it to the 4th set maybe.
@Spacejuno
@Spacejuno Ай бұрын
@@pauljohnson6019 he would have won one more game and that’s it
@joannemoore3976
@joannemoore3976 Ай бұрын
The BBC commentators falling over themselves to say Alcarath (badly) drove me crazy 🤣🤣
@bradleydavis9502
@bradleydavis9502 Ай бұрын
BBC drives me crazy, period.
@joannemoore3976
@joannemoore3976 Ай бұрын
@@bradleydavis9502 in a word, Andrew Castle 🤣
@globaltempo
@globaltempo Ай бұрын
Well done for BBC commentators trying to pronounce Alcaraz correctly. They're showing respect.They will get there eventually.
@josep9599
@josep9599 Ай бұрын
@@globaltempowhy don’t you show some respect by spelling his name right
@globaltempo
@globaltempo Ай бұрын
@@josep9599 mistake edited. Now, try to pronounce Alcaraz correctly and we will be even.
@ignacioalcon1278
@ignacioalcon1278 Ай бұрын
All my appreciation to Nole for the gratious way he behaves when he looses, I'm a Carlitos' fellow and love the way he treates the boy, it takes a lot of nobility and love for what you do to be that cool in such defeats
@notturno3448
@notturno3448 Ай бұрын
agree
@RedLeggett
@RedLeggett Ай бұрын
Novak is much more humble in defeat than Fed or even Nadal. That was a weakness of theirs Novak doesn't have.
@AMINOMMA
@AMINOMMA Ай бұрын
​@@RedLeggett Why did you have to make it about Rafa and Roger? Just appreciate Nole
@zedearl5181
@zedearl5181 Ай бұрын
Retract the “boy” statement IMMEDIATELY BOY!! He’s now a fully GROWN MAN Albeit a YOUNG ONE!!🤬🤬
@ignacioalcon1278
@ignacioalcon1278 Ай бұрын
@@zedearl5181 I'm 58, my son is 22 , for me Carlos is still a boy
@MrM2309-w3w
@MrM2309-w3w Ай бұрын
With Novak's movement, I've been saying this from the start of the year. He's naturally been slower this year than last year and that's even before his knee injury. Speed is so important at the top level, and was why I didn't think he'd ever reach a GS final again unless he gets a lucky run or Alcaraz / Sinner are injured. He can't extend rallies effectively where he needs to retrieve the ball quickly, nor get into optimal positions when moving across the court. He'll do very well to make the last 4 of any GS for the next year and a half, and I think this match finally exposes the reality of the situation, and I expect he'll retire in 1.5 - 2.5 years time. He'll probably give next year a real go, but will recognise he can't compete at the level he wants to. But he even said it himself, he felt half a step off the pace - and against the top opponents where he needs it, he'll notice this now on a more regular basis.
@johnrenehan7406
@johnrenehan7406 Ай бұрын
Perfectly well stated!!! That's it in a nut shell ... Here here 😊😊😊
@draoicht22
@draoicht22 17 күн бұрын
let's revisit this in 12 months ;)
@drudochi
@drudochi Ай бұрын
It was such a bitter taste that he lost in the finals in straight sets but I am happy to hear him speak on the post-final press conference. He now knows what he is up against and has to work extra hard if he plans on winning another slam which I am sure motivates him.
@aldoromano-be8su
@aldoromano-be8su Ай бұрын
Yes, at 37, he has a particularly tough task ahead, because he has to bring his best tennis, and trying and combat the speed issues
@theprogressivemichigander6588
@theprogressivemichigander6588 Ай бұрын
The impressive thing about the win for me that I don't think was altered by Djokovic's knee was the serve and return matchup. I was extremely impressed by Alcaraz's serve and return. And that meant Djokovic couldn't effectively shorten points and still win like he could against everyone else he played.
@namangupta3523
@namangupta3523 Ай бұрын
I think too much is given into the match. This is similar to Australian Open 2019 when Nadal came off from a surgery in december and faced minnows till the final. He then faced Novak who was on a different level and was demolished. This time it was Djokovic who was on the receiving end of it.
@winterbird4447
@winterbird4447 Ай бұрын
I think so too. I cannot believe the amount of overanalysis going on.
@veronicanicholls7132
@veronicanicholls7132 Ай бұрын
AGREE
@sssbbb4762
@sssbbb4762 Ай бұрын
But hes been below par for 7 months now, and is 37, its not normal to totally turn it around from there. If anyone can do it, its novak but its hardly overanalysis to observe that novak has been on the slide this whole year.
@DrDjDD
@DrDjDD Ай бұрын
Correct, you can only judge Novak after US and AUS, plenty to play for.
@DrDjDD
@DrDjDD Ай бұрын
Correct, you can only judge Novak after US and AUS, plenty to play for.
@marjoriemckenzie4247
@marjoriemckenzie4247 Ай бұрын
I was surprised that Djokovic even reached the Final, with all these Youngsters like Alcaraz , Sinner etc. playing so well, and he has Not been at his Best all year. Shows his mental toughness and also his Experience. I thought it would have been Alcaraz and Sinner in the Final , but it had to be Djokovic to prove that Carlos could "DEFEND" his Title against one of the "Greatest" Tennis players who has won 24 Major Titles. So Kudos to Djokovic for reaching the Final after having Knee Surgery and also at 37 years old, and he was also chasing History. He did Not use the Surgery as an Excuse for his Defeat. He accepted it with "Grace, and Class," and Acknowledged that he was " Outplayed" by Alcaraz. CONGRATULATIONS to Carlos Alcaraz on Defending the Title 🏆🇪🇸 👏👍👍❤️ and to Novak for showing such Class in Defeat.👌👏👍
@kennethmaxwell4809
@kennethmaxwell4809 Ай бұрын
Excellent measured statement
@drudochi
@drudochi Ай бұрын
Gill, he didn’t loose to Sinner in straight sets
@TrollMagic1987
@TrollMagic1987 Ай бұрын
yep, it was in 4 sets (as far as I recall).
@radieschen79
@radieschen79 Ай бұрын
Gill is a Sinner fan boy in disguise, since many years now.
@blagojelukic
@blagojelukic Ай бұрын
Nole is beast To compete at this level at 37 its just unbelievable His lifestyle will be studied for decades once he finishes his career Sure by his standards he played belllow average this match but he will be back stonger
@punns643
@punns643 Ай бұрын
What weak draw🎉
@davidfoster2006
@davidfoster2006 Ай бұрын
Get real he is 37 and he is not ever coming back stronger.
@avijitjha1614
@avijitjha1614 Ай бұрын
How about nadal at 36 winning 2 consecutive slams and reaching the semis of the 3rd, where he retired . Did not lose.
@ajaybaines7654
@ajaybaines7654 Ай бұрын
Great show guys!:). Couple things: Hats off to Novak. Yes. But let’s be real here. And my boy Gill made it crystal clear when he did his preview/prediction show. Gill picked Nole to win the tourney. And I know exactly why. Were Gill and I the only two people who thought Novak could make a run after we saw the draw come out? Who did he have to face that was a dangerous grass courter? Honestly other than Popyrin, who has never gone far in a slam, but has a massive serve and seems like a throwback grass courter, which was great to see, there were no other threats in my mind. And I think in Gill’s mind as well. Hurkacz maybe, but I was never truly scared for Novak due to Hubie. The tigers 🐅 were on the other side of the draw. And only one 19:22 would make it through. Gill saw it clear outta the gate, and that’s why he had Novak going to the final, even with his knee compromised. Hats off to Gillian. And in Carlos and his teams mind, they felt pressure to win. They want to ascend, and get better. It would have been a step backwards for him to lose to Novak on Sunday. Partly because he was less than 100% healthy, and also because Carlos won last year, and should be a year better. So this was a very, very important win for Carlos and his team. Similar to Novak winning in 2015 vs Roger, after he won in 2014.
@somnathganguly5627
@somnathganguly5627 Ай бұрын
Let's give a little more credit to a great athlete who's at the end of his illustrious career and not dig into his loss in London
@aldoromano-be8su
@aldoromano-be8su Ай бұрын
Carlos is definitely playing less "kamikaze" tennis now.
@Fontsman-14
@Fontsman-14 Ай бұрын
Before the match, the majority opinion was for Djokovic. Little mention of the knee. He'd had easy matchups, was fresh. But Carlos was dialled in. Consistent, creative and with tremendous speed and power. Djokovic was overwhelmed. The aura of invincibility for Djokovic is gone.
@innerparty1
@innerparty1 Ай бұрын
There certainly wasn't a majority for Djokovic.
@GamEleON1
@GamEleON1 Ай бұрын
That is the benefit of doubt you get when you have your knee surgery just 3 weeks before Wimbledon, there is very little expectation on you and anything you accomplish is just extra. And when you reach the final it is so crazily unbelievable that you can only get praise and acknowledgment that tou did it despite your knee being bad. Which it was and we still expected djokovic can win because he is the goat.
@bobgeorges
@bobgeorges Ай бұрын
@@innerparty1 I assume you consider yourself the majority?
@notturno3448
@notturno3448 Ай бұрын
Thank you, Three for a great show! All kudos to Alcaraz, who played an amazing match. I wanted Novak to win and I'm not so much surprised that he lost, but the way he lost. I sensed the same luck of motivation and strength from him...kinda like a deja vu from AO this year. I hope he can win one more GS before retiring.
@amylundy8664
@amylundy8664 Ай бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@jonathanvitelli3059
@jonathanvitelli3059 Ай бұрын
10:17 Djokovic lost to Sinner in four sets, not straights
@punns643
@punns643 Ай бұрын
So
@alekssmiljanov7448
@alekssmiljanov7448 Ай бұрын
it felt like 3
@kennethmaxwell4809
@kennethmaxwell4809 Ай бұрын
Gill gets a lot wrong for someone who is meant to spending his time on this sport- the other two don’t get facts wrong
@johnnytampocao7671
@johnnytampocao7671 Ай бұрын
Novak is still Novak of the past, except if he is facing Jannik or Carlos. In that SW19 finals if it was as just Medy or Zev he could've won that Slam. Alcaraz performance on that day improve a lot from serving mid 130s to prescision returning with power and very few unforced error. But I knew Carlos kept something extra motivation to beat Novak because if he just played moderately like the past few matches I don't think he would have beaten Novak. Besides he now knows how to beat Novak as he said in the press con prior to the match. Alcaraz was just phenomenal on that day, whoever in front of him can't even come closer to that performance. UNBELIEVABLE PERFORMANCE. HE HAS THAT X-FACTOR THAT OTHERS DON'T.
@GamEleON1
@GamEleON1 Ай бұрын
What a blind analysis, perhaps we would win against Medy in the final, but that only shows how much above everyone novak is that he can win slam even only 3 weeks after a knee surgery. Dont be mistaken to again write djokovic off, because just as last year he has a good chance to bounce back after such a mishap in the wimbledon final. I just wish that he can regain his physical strength to fight some 1-2 years more on high level. Because if he plays even on 80% of his top level he will win multiple slams in the next years.
@ortforshort7652
@ortforshort7652 Ай бұрын
It's only a matter of time before Djokovic will not be able to beat Alcaraz any more. Alcaraz is 21 and already an all time great. Djokovic is 37. Do the math. That time may have already come, but this Wimbledon tournament was not the place to judge that. Djokovic had just miraculously made the Wimbledon final after a knee surgery when conventional wisdom says he shouldn't have even played in it.
@aldoromano-be8su
@aldoromano-be8su Ай бұрын
Sure - but Alcaraz doesn't always play like that. Earlier this year he was losing to people like Marozan.
@ortforshort7652
@ortforshort7652 Ай бұрын
@@aldoromano-be8su Alcaraz looks like he needs to be psyched to play his best and loses focus when its too easy or when it's not a big tournament. But, for the fans, it would be nice if he is human otherwise it would get boring if he wins all the time
@colethomas903
@colethomas903 Ай бұрын
@aldoramano-be8su earlier this year man what are you on some good stuff When Fabian beat him he just won Barcelona and Madrid just for your information u act like he’s not human he only only the man was 30-3 entering that match or something like that but he was losing to everyone might wanna keep ya comments to ya self
@michaelnextdoor8726
@michaelnextdoor8726 Ай бұрын
This reminds me of the other GOAT Serena in her later years at slams. Couldn't quite get over the hump and win.
@rahuldoshi3653
@rahuldoshi3653 Ай бұрын
It rather reminds you of Serena vs Sharapova at Wimbledon when Maria when her first. Novak will come back and come back strong. @sunmanyi3265 he will equal Federer's 8 Wimbledon titles next year!
@bradleydavis9502
@bradleydavis9502 Ай бұрын
Serena never had the level of competition Novak had. Her greatest rival was Henin who pulled a Borg and left as World #1 in her prime. Venus tested her from '99-'03.
@michaelnextdoor8726
@michaelnextdoor8726 Ай бұрын
@bradleydavis9502 fair enough but result is the same.
@MentallyLibtarded
@MentallyLibtarded Ай бұрын
​@@bradleydavis9502 Graf or Serena whos better?
@bradleydavis9502
@bradleydavis9502 Ай бұрын
@@MentallyLibtarded Serena 100%. If Steffi played Serena in their respective primes, Serena wins 8 out of 10. Serena-Seles, however, would be an absolute war.
@palerider2890
@palerider2890 Ай бұрын
Followed the match on the radio in France. What came through loud and clear is that Alcaraz has incredible killer instinct - like Nadal at his peak - he knows when he needs to turn Godzilla. As a die hard Novak fan, I will be thrilled to see him win one more Slam, AO could be the most logical.
@Juan_Dystopian
@Juan_Dystopian Ай бұрын
30:20 alcaRAZ in Spanish with the Z being pronounced like TH in THINK but Latinos would pronounce the Z as S. People from southern Spain would drop the consonant at the end of the word but that's because the accent/dialect we speak in the south. As English speakers I think it'd make more sense if you stressed the first syllable instead of the last one. That's my very personal opinion. I'm a Spaniard
@globaltempo
@globaltempo Ай бұрын
@@Juan_Dystopian if English don't have a problem with the word "path" they shouldn't have a problem with "Alcarath" ...think of "Alka-path" and you're almost there
@aldoromano-be8su
@aldoromano-be8su Ай бұрын
Yes, if you hear how Alcaraz introduce himself it's a word where the stress is on the final syllable, like "universidad" , I am not spanish, but I do speak Spanish and I feel that the Brits and Americans are adding too much TH to the name. The spanish "z" is much more subtle.
@christianlaw8234
@christianlaw8234 Ай бұрын
I'm Spanish and I live in Madrid. No one says “Álcaras" in Spain. Literally no one. We all say "Alcaráz". Someone from Andalucía, depending on the province, might say pazo instead of paso (step), but It does not work the other way round.
@christianlaw8234
@christianlaw8234 Ай бұрын
Otherwise, great content. Thanks!
@globaltempo
@globaltempo Ай бұрын
@@christianlaw8234 exactly, only people from Latin America would say Alcaras.
@RobinahMAKAYAGA
@RobinahMAKAYAGA Ай бұрын
We don’t care!!! We speak English here
@globaltempo
@globaltempo Ай бұрын
@@RobinahMAKAYAGA if you didn't care you wouldn't protest in Twitter about the sound of Alcaraz in Spanish. My point is the sound of our "z" is as good or as bad as your "th", so there's no reason to protest.
@christianlaw8234
@christianlaw8234 Ай бұрын
@@RobinahMAKAYAGA In Spain we mispronounce a lot of English/American names, and that's ok. But we surely don't mispronounce Alcaraz, as Gill says we do in some parts of the country. That's all.
@lsb9073
@lsb9073 Ай бұрын
Oh finally! We get the acknowledgement (thank you Joel) that Carlos, despite being Spanish and of course looks up to Rafa and wants to be like him (ie never say die mentality), that who he really wants to *play* like is Federer, his actual inspiration. Cam is saying what we can all see; Carlos is the better tennis player over Sinner. Just like Roger was ALWAYS the better tennis player- still is in fact ,has all Carlos' shots, and more and a vastly better serve than Carlitos and had the super fast, explosive movement too, so much so that it didnt look as fast cos he got there so smoothly, looked like he had time to spare. Luckily for Carlos, he is the younger player rather than the Novak-like Sinner, tho there isnt a 6yr age gap so it wont affect their rivalry to anything like the same degree , but still, he isthe younger of the two so has that advantage as well as being built like Rafa, whereas poor skinny Sinner had to grow his body first, still is in fact.
@aldoromano-be8su
@aldoromano-be8su Ай бұрын
I think truth be told his real idol is Federer, but as a young Spanish player, he has to say his idol is Nadal. I am sure Nadal is someone he admires, like you say "Spanish never die" - I think inspiration is the thing that drives a player more.
@thisisjuanhoyos
@thisisjuanhoyos Ай бұрын
Last year Djokovic won 3 out of 4 Grand Slams, reached the finals of the other one. Won the ATP finals (the tournament where you don't have "good draws"). This year he started without his team, he certainly was not himself against Sinner in Australia or against Alcaraz in England. Novak is not going anywhere for now if the health allows him to play, he has more than 5 Slams in him yet. We suffer from recency bias, we see Murray and Nadal struggling and inmediatly want to put Novak in that bag, despite he has proven over and over he is just different. Props to Alcaraz, he will have a beautiful rivalry with Novak, Alcaraz is simply a genius, like a fusion of Novak and Federer, but with a much much better mindset.
@hih5868
@hih5868 Ай бұрын
5 slams ? you are a delusional
@Sharp_Instincts
@Sharp_Instincts Ай бұрын
If you play tennis, and you are a step slow because you haven't recovered from your injury, then you get to a lot of balls later than you want, and you need to have the ball in front of you in order to attack it, if you're slow, then the ball is alongside you or slightly passed you and then your return will have way less speed and way less depth and you get hammered on the next shot. End result is that you look washed up and over the hill, but that is very misleading, Nole will be working on getting his knee up to full speed ( and possibly learning a new language in his spare time), and once his knee is recovered he will be able to attack as before.
@skabbaraju1
@skabbaraju1 Ай бұрын
Novak and Alcaraz don't have much of a rivalry. It will be short lived. Novak got lucky last year and now he ran out of luck. Lucky because if Carlos didn't cramp at rg2023 and if Carlos met Novak at usopen finals.
@Spacejuno
@Spacejuno Ай бұрын
@@thisisjuanhoyos Amazing to read how you really think Novak has 5 more slams when he’s 37 with a bad knee and an already legendary player in Carlitos looking to dominate tennis himself. It’s just not realistic. Novak is the goat but he’s not Jesus. His time is ending let’s enjoy his last dance and be grateful for the memories but let’s not be delusional here.
@christheprophet6583
@christheprophet6583 Ай бұрын
At best Djokovic can win 2 more slams. It will be difficult to beat Medvedev, Zverev, Sinner, or Alcaraz in a slam.
@badabing8884
@badabing8884 Ай бұрын
This has to be the beginning of the end for Novak. He’s 37 and was outplayed in this final, the semi at AO v Sinner. Pushed to 2 back to back 5 setters in the first week at RG before suffering that knee injury. It was a miracle he made it back and got to the final 3 and half weeks after the operation. I suspect he will go the Serena route rather than Sampras end to his career chasing that elusive 25th slam. Roger, Rafa and Andy all retired or retiring this year.
@mariepelletier3020
@mariepelletier3020 Ай бұрын
It ispronounced Alcarath. The z in Spanish--Castillian anyway is pronounced th. If Carlos says that's how his name is pronounced then it is.
@globaltempo
@globaltempo Ай бұрын
@@mariepelletier3020 it's not that hard, "path" and "bath" have the same termination.
@mariepelletier3020
@mariepelletier3020 Ай бұрын
@@globaltempo so th then--
@djdoc06
@djdoc06 Ай бұрын
12:23 no… way more pressure on Alcaraz. Because (1) Alcaraz was favored going into that final and (2) Djokovic barely seems to be affected by pressure any more. He literally just plays at a high MENTAL level in every big match. He only loses to opponents with physical superiority.
@Jalleur14325
@Jalleur14325 Ай бұрын
I'd agree, we've rarely seen Novak lose mentally. Against Medvedev 2021 was one of the few occasions.
@djdoc06
@djdoc06 Ай бұрын
@@Jalleur14325 early on his career, Djokovic would break mentally to Federer, simply because everybody eventually breaks in a match when the opponent appears unbreakable. Once he got to his peak game and figured out he could read and counterpunch everything Federer has, but at higher percentages, he was very comfortable with Federer matchups. He knew only way Federer could beat him was serve out of his mind, and/or consistently be ridiculously brilliant. Nadal broke everybody mentally including Djokovic and Federer at times, because Nadal almost never gave up on a point in his life, let alone a game or a match. Only way to beat Nadal was by being physically far superior (outserve him for example) and mentally equal.
@marciabrown7368
@marciabrown7368 Ай бұрын
I also was waiting for this . ☺️
@matthewdsouza8891
@matthewdsouza8891 Ай бұрын
Wow! What a great story from Amy. Can't wait to see those pictures of her and Bjorn.
@Spacejuno
@Spacejuno Ай бұрын
With all due respect to Novak because it sure is impressive to make a final after surgery. But his draw was easy form the get go, all the top players where in the other side. He got a W.O. And Musseti in the semis lol. It was good but not inspirational imo.
@br1729
@br1729 Ай бұрын
This episode is a classic example of the big difference between getting ahead of a trend and analyzing a trend post hoc. Three can do the latter well, but certainly not the former, at least not regarding the only remaining competitive member of the name of the show. The fact is that the signs that this is a step-down year for Djokovic have been there for over six months, but were largely whitewashed by Three prior to the Wimbledon final, in service of breathless appreciation of the Old Master Djokovic. Let’s go through this thesis: First, the baseline for my assessment is the comment I posted on the pre-finals episode: “The Djokovic story thus far is his joke of a draw. Alcaraz has beaten players with a combined 14,201 ranking points, Djokovic just 9,530, and if you pull out the de Minaur walkover, 5,700 points. Alcaraz should win on Sunday--it would be the just result.” Second, in this podcast, to start, Joel sees the final turning out to be the first best test of Novak at Wimbledon, who had not played a top-20 opponent prior to the final. Where was the heavy focus on the difference in caliber of competition in the podcast PRIOR to the final? If a podcast goes on for 40 minutes and mentions that Djokovic has had some fortunate match-ups to get to the final, that is NOT the same thing as emphasizing his weak draw and its implications in its analysis. Third, mystifyingly, Amy says “I thought we nailed it.” Did she sleep through those podcasts prior to the final? Did she dream that the group consensus was that Alcaraz would rout Djokovic? Prior to the final, Amy was actually saying that, sure, you could say Djokovic had a bit of an easy path to the final, while NOW, now she’s obsessing about the difference in the speed of play between the caliber of opponents Alcaraz faced and those Djokovic faced. She didn’t say anything about the speed of play presented by the opposition prior to the final. Fourth, Gill says that in the final Djokovic just looked too slow, and is just not in a position where he can “offense my way to a win.” Of course not! Djokovic is NOT that player. He’s a spot-serving backboarder. He can come to the net more against weaker opponents like Rune and Musetti (how many majors have THEY won?), not against the elite tier (how many majors have Sinner and Alcaraz won?). Fifth, Amy returns to the gap between the top-5 and the rest of the field. But name me ONE TIME prior to the final when she mentioned the difference between RANKINGS of the players Djokovic faced vs the rankings of those Alcaraz faced. She certainly didn’t mention it as clearly as I did in my comment above. Six, Amy quotes Federer about not thinking about winning short points, and before the final, she said she was concerned about Alcaraz thinking about not wanting to play a lot of long points against Medvedev. What she missed is that what Alcaraz MEANT with his comment was that he wanted to take INITIATIVE in the points, even against a top-tier opponent. Taking initiative is the defining difference in Alcaraz’s game. The only type of initiative Djokovic takes against top-tier opponents is the direction of his groundstrokes (e.g., backhand down the line). Taking initiative against elite players with droppers or net rushing just is not a reliable part of Djokovic’s arsenal. (It isn’t part of Sinner’s arsenal, either). Seventh, prior to the final, Gill knocked people for holding onto the years-out-of-date view that Djokovic wants to extend points. But after the final, Gill now says that he was surprised that Djokovic didn’t try to go to lockdown mode more often to steady the ship against Alcaraz. The dirty little secret is that Djokovic, for all his improvement of his serve and volley, remains a player who has built his career around grinding defense and endurance, and if those aren’t good enough for him to beat the elite players, then he won’t beat them. Eighth, before the final, Gill emphasized how much Djokovic had turned his season around from the motivational concerns many bemoaned during the clay court swing, when many even said that Djokovic would not win another major. NOW, Gill praises Joel’s insight that outliers are starting to look like inliers. NOW, Gill says that Alcaraz and Sinner set the standard for winning majors and Djokovic has lost in straight sets to them both times. Hmm, recall that Zverev did better against Alcaraz at RG than Djokovic did against Alcaraz at Wimbledon, so who is best measuring up to the standard for winning a major going forward: Zverev, Medvedev or Djokovic? This question is now not as easy to answer as Three certainly would have told us prior to the Wimbledon final. Ninth, Amy revealingly admits, “I don’t watch much diminishment of skill.” Well, it’s going to be hard for her to spot it, then, won’t it? She’s been blind to it all year. Remember how much weight she put on the water bottle excuse? Tenth, Joel is dismissive of fans-as opposed to “media”-who don’t even want to count the Wimbledon final because of Djokovic’s knee. But the next time Joel is so dismissive, he might listen to the breathless tone of admiration of the efficiency and craftsmanship of Djokovic’s practice and play at Wimbledon, which he saw first hand this year. In the pre-final podcast, Joel sure sounded like a fanboy to me. Eleventh and finally, Gill notes with praise Djokovic’s masterful display of skills in his run to the final. But what Gill is missing is that Djokovic’s ELITE skills do NOT include those necessary for offensive play. His serve, volley and dropper are very good-good enough for the likes of Rune and Musetti-but they have never been the cornerstones of his 24 major victories. They certainly won’t be good enough to get any more major victories. Enough of my thesis. This episode also had some nice nuggets: * Joel made the good point about Alcaraz taking something off his passing shots, which can actually make them tougher volleys (because that puts more pressure on the volleyer’s technique to do something with the shot). * Three noted the interesting-and shocking-stat that the longest rally of the match was 13 shots. Wow-that might set a record for the shortest longest point of a major final! * Joel admitted that he needed to better understand the type of surgery Djokovic had. SO TRUE for me as well. The only thing I’ve learned is that Djokovic had his meniscus removed not repaired, which improved recovery time. But what does the meniscus do? Are there any consequences of removing it? Or is it like a tonsil or appendix? I just have no idea, and haven’t seen much about it in the tennis press (although I have not been that diligent in looking for it, I admit).
@Mntguy-nr9vl
@Mntguy-nr9vl Ай бұрын
What nobody mentions is even Novak himself has said numerous times he has never played anyone like Carlos Alcaraz. He says Roger and Rafa each had their own specialty but Carlos is the most complete player aside from himself that he has ever played against and he happens to be a hell of a lot younger and he's playing with confidence.
@tobiasgoldman
@tobiasgoldman Ай бұрын
As a Swede I really enjoyed this episode. Firstly, your pronunciation of "Båstad" was spot on Gil. Secondly, I cannot believe that Amy ran into Björn Borg twice, randomly! I've lived here for most of my life and I've NEVER run into him.😅 But I will be looking up those photos of you and him Amy 😉
@lsb9073
@lsb9073 Ай бұрын
As soon as we saw the Draw, i dont think anyone thought Novak wudnt reach the Final.
@c.m.l.184
@c.m.l.184 Ай бұрын
Alcaraz very strong and fast in all surfaces at 21 yo.
@ranrabi9381
@ranrabi9381 Ай бұрын
I find it really hard to listen to the excuses concerning the knee after hearing all the praises in the preview before the final.
@creativestudio101
@creativestudio101 Ай бұрын
Right, right. I think Gill put too much stock on Novak's game standing vs the more complete, extremely aggressive game that Alcaraz brings. At his highest level, this match-up is on Alcaraz's racquet... If Alcaraz is off, he may lose, but if he's on all cylinders, Novak's defense and game style has no chance.
@GamEleON1
@GamEleON1 Ай бұрын
​@@creativestudio101i hope that you realise this statement only applies on injured knee djokovic. Because if djokovic is 100% healthy it doesnt matter if alcaraz playes his absolute best djokovic can still win, even now i think djokovic is favorite against him if he is healthy and plays at least somewhat good. I hope to god that he hears my words and grants us the opportunity to see that scenario 😊
@PS-sb6rh
@PS-sb6rh Ай бұрын
Wonderful discussion. If Djokovic and Nadal can hang around for couple of years then they will be able to win 1-2 grand slams as Alcaraz and Sinner are not going to be fit and in form all the time. Thankfully Alcaraz, Sinner and Medvedev are filling the space created by Big3's exit.
@DaveOwen-vn6ie
@DaveOwen-vn6ie Ай бұрын
Possibly Djokovic but sadly not Nadal
@toddjohnson271
@toddjohnson271 Ай бұрын
Nadal is done.
@TendoASMR
@TendoASMR Ай бұрын
Amy’s hair looks so good!!
@amylundy8664
@amylundy8664 Ай бұрын
Haha thanks 😊
@lukeattwood6187
@lukeattwood6187 Ай бұрын
You can't blame the knee surgery guys,as others have said of wasn't fit or ready he wouldn't have even entered the tournament,Djokovic recently said it himself,his level is not at sinners or alcaraz right now
@jflow5601
@jflow5601 Ай бұрын
Everyone makes excuses for Djokovic and Sinner when they don't measure up. Carlos is the real deal.❤❤❤
@matthewdsouza8891
@matthewdsouza8891 Ай бұрын
Thank you Gill for explaining the Alcaraz pronunciation being different within Spain. During Queens, Andrew Castle, the BBC commentator, said that he wasn't bothering with changing the pronunciation to how it's said on the ATP Website and got a load of stick from people.
@globaltempo
@globaltempo Ай бұрын
It should be pronounced Alcarath, stressing the end of the word. Trying to pronounce it properly is a proof of respect.
@globaltempo
@globaltempo Ай бұрын
It isn't true you can pronounce Alcaraz in both ways correctly. Spanish is very straight forward, it's not random like English. There's ONLY ONE correct way of pronouncing Alcaraz.
@flyingsaucer8199
@flyingsaucer8199 Ай бұрын
"How could we have known there was a problem?" Really. His movement was suspect for the whole tournament. Some improvements as he moved through the rounds, yes, but still suspect. The issue is you can still knock out wins against those who don't know how to exploit your weaknesses but you'll get exposed against the right opponent. Grass comp not the best so no surprise he made the final with the draw he had (including QF w/o).
@toybags
@toybags Ай бұрын
Like an older golfers past 50 whom would lose distance every year, joker’s at the tail end of his career and suffers from the same physics in performance or recovery. He is still the GOAT and don’t see him losing to any top players except 4 sinner and alcaraz in the next 1/2 years. Alcaraz’s serve is vastly improving and reached high 120 and mid-130s in Wimbledon. Once he dials up the accuracy, no one can catch him.
@DaveOwen-vn6ie
@DaveOwen-vn6ie Ай бұрын
You say top players other than those mentioned, what about all those ranked outside the Top 20? Because in 2024, majority of his losses have been against guys ranked well outside the Top 20
@rolandhill8226
@rolandhill8226 Ай бұрын
Famous last words!!! Give the kid a break and let him enjoy being human. Too heavy and too soon expectations of him are more liable to break him than to make him better. We humans sometimes fail to appreciate that the very best of our kind in a certain pursuit are still merely human. That "target" on Carlos' back gets simply bigger with each additional win that he gets. How Novak withstood being such a target himself for 428 weeks gives him entry through the door into the realm of immortality.
@omraamchants3548
@omraamchants3548 Ай бұрын
Amy's motherly version of the aging champion Novak is sweet; her sense of the game is a happy mix of head and heart. Gill is a seasoned force in our midst and gets better with every dawn. As for Joel, the effect of English crimson strawberries shows on his return sans the RP British accent. 😜❤🎾🎆 Novak deserves all the respect and appreciation in the world. Billions of blistering blue barnacles aka Carlitos that didn't quite allow the smooth sailing of the Titanic called Novak, but then it ain't Novak's fault in the slightest. The likes of Sinner, Meddy, Carlos are taking centrestage slowly but surely. 🎾🎾 Amy, Gill and Joel - Classy, intelligent, warm and here to stay! 🎉🥳
@tonitomate9508
@tonitomate9508 Ай бұрын
Borg Amy story 👌😂 fun 👍 as ever excellent show guys ❤️
@amylundy8664
@amylundy8664 Ай бұрын
Thank you 😊
@Southpaw101
@Southpaw101 Ай бұрын
Is this guy really a 7 time winner and that too on grass... Amy lundy please teach him how to volley . Pun intended
@raquelwilkins4871
@raquelwilkins4871 Ай бұрын
So you make excuses for why Djokovic lost his Wimbledon match due to his knee injury, but none for Nadal who has been off for a year due to injuries. Do you expect Nadal to be on top of his game after being off that long? I’m done with you all and your lack of fairness
@matthewdsouza8891
@matthewdsouza8891 Ай бұрын
I felt at the start of the year that this could be Alcaraz's take off year, similar to Federer in 04. My only concern was health. I can see Alcaraz and Sinner winning 75% of all majors for the next 4-5yrs. I hope Zverev can get over the line and win a major, as he could be the one guy that could be a thorn in their side. Rune is always the hope as well.
@pascalrolla
@pascalrolla Ай бұрын
More like 95 percent. Maybe zverev steals one(RG)
@profoundgreetingsfromneptune
@profoundgreetingsfromneptune Ай бұрын
Has Alcaraz officially separated himself from the pack? Is he on a tier all his own -- above Sinner, Djokovic, and Medvedev -- or is it too early to say?
@miljann98
@miljann98 Ай бұрын
Djokovic had a bad serve day. Alcaraz had a very good serve day. Djokovic had bad timing on neutral balls, he failed at the net and Alcaraz beat him not because of the age difference, but because his technique was better.
@toddjohnson271
@toddjohnson271 Ай бұрын
He has lost speed to get to those drop shots, but also slowed by the knee.
@kennethmaxwell4809
@kennethmaxwell4809 Ай бұрын
In the day yes.
@jjoao32
@jjoao32 Ай бұрын
I just find it funny how people concentrate on this final and use the knee excuse but forget the first 6 months of this season. What's the excuse for those ? Not one victory over a top ranked player and losses to low ranked players. Besides lots of games where he needed to use the Djokovic card to beat low ranked players instead of just dominating them. So, is it just a bad season or a sign of father time ? We will see. But what is clear is that he can't bully this next generation like he did with the previous one (Meddy, Zverev, Tsitsipas, etc) and i think that will be the definitive sign of his decline, starting to loose against that generation that he dominated. The new one ? Forget it. Especially in 5 sets.
@Norf.F.C.Zoomer
@Norf.F.C.Zoomer Ай бұрын
Here's the problem, this year seems like Djokovic is basically done zero top 5 wins no titles etc., but just 7 months ago he absolutely destroyed the "new gen" at the atp finals and won 3 slams last year, I struggle to believe someone can go from 3 slams and year end number 1 then physically decline so fast in 7 months. So basically I'm torn, tennis memories are short.
@johnnytampocao7671
@johnnytampocao7671 Ай бұрын
Yes. You're right, now I don't think Novak will repeat again of saying HE IS UNTOUCHABLE. With Alcaraz and Sinner he's now touchable.😂😂
@jjoao32
@jjoao32 Ай бұрын
@Norf.F.C.Zoomer couldn't agree more. As a 50 year old and an active sports guy, I did notice a gradual change over the last years but I can also tell you the 44 to 45 was really a year where recovery levels especially took a turn that was noticeable. I can imagine at this high level where the slightest difference can mean that defeat and win go hand in hand much more regularly. I also think, that regardless of his mental strength that we know him for, the focus is not the same. I am a father of 2, it's impossible to have the same focus. And he is playing much less tournaments and people also use the fact he didn't have much competition this W24 and even a walkover and that cost him. So imagine not playing many tournaments and then arriving at most tournaments without that competitive rhythm and having to do extra hours on the courts against opponents that would barely win a game usually, let alone a set. I think all together is playing a part on his form. The thing is, will he want it to a point of doing like a final year of all or nothing? Keeping like this, I think doesn't cut it anymore.
@rishbahpandey8697
@rishbahpandey8697 Ай бұрын
​@@Norf.F.C.Zoomer he served out of his mind in atp finals. He will never serve that again in atp finals. Also carlos beat him last yr at wimbledon as well and would have defeated him at RG as well if nor for cramp
@gerlindemayer9645
@gerlindemayer9645 Ай бұрын
@@jjoao32 completely agree. Djokovic should go now. What is also ridiculous is the fact that he still remains on number 2 in the ATP Ranking while winning nothing this year. The ranking should and has to be reformed in some way. I knew that when the Djokovic factor does not count any more he will just be a usual player , there is nothing special in his game which would be for coming generations, whereas Edberg, Sampras and Federer, even Nadal, had to offer simply great tennis!!
@denisdaly1708
@denisdaly1708 Ай бұрын
The weak era of the last 5 years is over. No chance for Novak to win.
@rupakdewangan8117
@rupakdewangan8117 Ай бұрын
💯💯
@sunmanyi3265
@sunmanyi3265 Ай бұрын
If Novak continues trying to equal Federer's 8th wimbo elusive record, he most probably will equal Nadal's 13 bagels instead. On record, Nadal has 13 bagels received, Novak 12 and Federer 5. He almost got it in the first set of his straight sets loss in wimbledon.
@DaveOwen-vn6ie
@DaveOwen-vn6ie Ай бұрын
When you've won 24 or 22 majors, who exactly gives a **** how many bagel sets they've dropped!
@sunmanyi3265
@sunmanyi3265 Ай бұрын
@@DaveOwen-vn6ie Who gives a f? Novak exactly! When he desperately wants to equal Federer's Wimbledon record but ends up adding one or two more bagels to his negative record, how do you think he feels? You think he will say who gives a fuck? You are not the one feeling it, so shut up.
@DaveOwen-vn6ie
@DaveOwen-vn6ie Ай бұрын
@sunmanyi3265 Very mature! So I guess your implying if Djokovic loses a match in 5x tie break sets then he's going to be very happy and pleased with himself but if he were to lose 1x set 6-0 in a 5x set battle then he be DEVASTATED!!! Really?!? You need counselling
@sunmanyi3265
@sunmanyi3265 Ай бұрын
@@DaveOwen-vn6ie Counselling? Like I said, you're NOT the one playing and feeling the loss, so shut up.
@DaveOwen-vn6ie
@DaveOwen-vn6ie Ай бұрын
@sunmanyi3265 Why don't you shut up! Do you NOT realise that you can LOSE a set 6-0 yet STILL win a match? Nadal did it against Thiem at US Open 2018 but according to you, he would have been devastated that he lost a set 6-0 regardless of winning the match!! Idiot!!!!
@TuningintotheOne4BLN
@TuningintotheOne4BLN Ай бұрын
Alcaritos was playing @ such a high level, Novak did not have a chance - set 3 was competitive, but not enough to extend the match. Such a high level from Carlos & Nole playing very descent but nowhere near good enough to match it. Just an ole-fashioned beat-down. Kudos to Nole for knee surgery to Wimby final - just amazing! Thanx J-A-G. Luv U Guyz-Gal ❣Cheers, Milan🎾
@amylundy8664
@amylundy8664 Ай бұрын
Thanks Milan!
@TuningintotheOne4BLN
@TuningintotheOne4BLN Ай бұрын
@@amylundy8664❤🙏😘
@Spacejuno
@Spacejuno Ай бұрын
I don’t think Novak will beat Carlitos at a slam ever again.
@Infinityflow0
@Infinityflow0 Ай бұрын
I wouldn't be so definitive. We have seen the big 3 come back from big defeats before. Sure, federer succumbed to injuries and Nadal is probably at the end of the road now because of his injuries, but when they were still top players before they got injured. Novak is still great and healthy enough to play at the top level, despite having a knee surgery before the tournament. He will probably improve going into the US open.
@samkosowick4912
@samkosowick4912 Ай бұрын
it’s certainly possible (just look at Serena), but I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see Novak beat him in BO5 1 more time
@Spacejuno
@Spacejuno Ай бұрын
@@Infinityflow0 Sure we saw the big 3 comeback from big defeats before but not against a prime world class way younger player. This was supposed to be the comeback win and he got swept. Tennis history is repeating itself right now; the new legend rises and fends off the old guard. Sure Novak is stubborn but Carlitos has solved the Novak problem, and if history has taught us something is that he won’t loose to him again in bo5.
@bbsoni4814
@bbsoni4814 Ай бұрын
you're so wrong...
@tusharsingh4543
@tusharsingh4543 Ай бұрын
It's weird because Novak matches up way better versus Carlos on hard courts and I feel he has much more of a chance at beating him at the USO or AO. But grass and clay Carlos has the edge over him. Complete opposite with Sinner, where I think Novak will beat him on grass and clay but not hard courts.
@carmacn2129
@carmacn2129 Ай бұрын
So good as always. Thanks Gil!
@celestialspartan7977
@celestialspartan7977 Ай бұрын
Did Cramps help Djokovic beat Alcaraz in RG 23?Will never know just like Ankle doing Zverev in during RG22.
@rishbahpandey8697
@rishbahpandey8697 Ай бұрын
Rafa was ahead of zverev in that RG 22 match. Djoker carlos were 1 set each in RG 23. So not fair. Zverev dont win long matches because of health issue so probably rafa would have won RG 22 but novak not sure
@iannovak5223
@iannovak5223 Ай бұрын
How do you guys explain the fact that Musetti said this is the best Novak he has played despite having played the version of Novak that won 3 majors in a year and it would’ve 4 if he made fee easy backhands against Alcaraz ?
@seanl6885
@seanl6885 Ай бұрын
I don't think Novak is slower this year. It wasn't the knee IMO. Facing a faster Alcaraz, Novak's game plan of serve-and-volley backfired. He needs a coach. Novak can read Musetti. It's not the case with Alcaraz or Sinner, against whom Novak needs the reflex and endurance. But at age 37..
@ja-kl8rg
@ja-kl8rg Ай бұрын
I think serve was key .
@alekssmiljanov7448
@alekssmiljanov7448 Ай бұрын
he has never faced him on grass before
@JameSongMaker
@JameSongMaker Ай бұрын
Musetti is not as good as Alcaraz, of course he has more trouble with Djokovic. Also, I don’t think Musetti played particularly well against Djokovic, this time.
@gerlindemayer9645
@gerlindemayer9645 Ай бұрын
Djokovic not just wants to retire, I would say he should and has to, very soon.
@toddjohnson271
@toddjohnson271 Ай бұрын
Runner up at Wimbledon? All done?
@rolandhill8226
@rolandhill8226 Ай бұрын
Am bummed by Novak's loss and am interested in seeing how he goes on from here. If it happened to him at ten years younger, I'd say, "watch out--a monster will rise from this!" I'm not sure now, though, given his senior tennis age, but he's my favorite athlete ever, and I'll thank him for that and I'll love him 'til the last for what he's given to the most loyal of his fans everywhere. I loved it when gracious Carlos called the great one "still a superman." Just as Novak owed a lot to both Roger and Nadal before him, Alcaraz and Sinner and any of their eventual equals will have turned out to owe a lot to Novak.
@johnrenehan7406
@johnrenehan7406 Ай бұрын
Surprisingly beat in the final ???? Geezus wake up man - look at the draw he played - and pay attention to your first guest commentator!!!
@cobejuelomiguel6104
@cobejuelomiguel6104 Ай бұрын
al-ka-rÁz ending like ( th) in English -- last syllable stress. Like “Alcatraz”. No way like a lot say “ Ál-ka-raz”.
@cityremade
@cityremade Ай бұрын
I got a feeling Ruud might win gold :)
@rener7940
@rener7940 Ай бұрын
I don’t, ruud just lost in the 2nd round in Sweden
@myytchanneldinakoha8498
@myytchanneldinakoha8498 Ай бұрын
@@rener7940means nothing.
@Lucatubo69
@Lucatubo69 Ай бұрын
Zero titles in 2024. Still holds true. How many trophies do you see Djokovic taking this year for the season to be satisfying for him?
@draoicht22
@draoicht22 Ай бұрын
Olympic's, USO , Paris Masters, ATP Finals for Novak to focus on
@georgesunaryo5080
@georgesunaryo5080 Ай бұрын
Djokovic was just lucky into final,he got easy draw & didn't play against 10 ten in this tournament.
@pascalrolla
@pascalrolla Ай бұрын
Agree and he does not have a top 10 Victory all year
@GaryTornado-zy2mz
@GaryTornado-zy2mz Ай бұрын
If De Minaur was healthy he would have beaten Djokovic in the Quarters
@MrCWL
@MrCWL Ай бұрын
Highly doubtful
@GaryTornado-zy2mz
@GaryTornado-zy2mz Ай бұрын
@@MrCWL No doubt about it lol he loses to Fritz or Zverev too he got not only a good draw but the luck aswell. So glad Carlos brought his decline into clear focus.
@matthewdsouza8891
@matthewdsouza8891 Ай бұрын
Disagree! Djokovic would have held serve relatively comfortably vs De Minaur and be in at least 3 De Minaur service games a set.
@innerparty1
@innerparty1 Ай бұрын
​@@GaryTornado-zy2mz "no doubt about it lol", says a man with clear doubts about it.
@GaryTornado-zy2mz
@GaryTornado-zy2mz Ай бұрын
@@innerparty1 Yeah nah mate it’s clear as day. Novak will be thinking hard about retirement now. Convincing losses against Sinner in Melbourne and Alcarez in London will hurt ego more than anything. Now for the nail in the coffin. Shelton in New York😂
@StephenFernandes-ui4fg
@StephenFernandes-ui4fg Ай бұрын
Alcaraz is just too good. Good for his competitors that he isn’t focussed all the time!!
@sabymondal
@sabymondal Ай бұрын
"I don't want to make excuse for this and that" - is a cute way to make excuse. 😊
@Internet_Gangsta
@Internet_Gangsta Ай бұрын
The old dude with glasses was unbearable to listen throughout this. Novak literary had a surgery 40 days before that final. He didn't train properly. Alcaraz is a problem tho. Nothing against the dude. But let's not pretend that Novak's year was sadly derailed with bunch of random sh1t happening. Off course Alcaraz is a reason why Novak doesn't play his best, but at last two Wimbledon finals Novak 100% played below his current form. Neither 2023 nor 2024 against Alcaraz, Novak was not able to reach his "best" current level. I am not sure why. Maybe it is just because it is Wimbledon final and equaling Federer record... Just strange.
@MrRsrafferty
@MrRsrafferty Ай бұрын
First here! Was waiting for this one
@draoicht22
@draoicht22 17 күн бұрын
Novak took another part of Alcaraz' soul in Paris last Sunday Aug 4th ( added to the Cincinnati, ATP Finals matches ) he's not finished. _You must remember that Novak is 37 but that is not 37_ . He really is 33 /34 max.
@michaelgarza8271
@michaelgarza8271 Ай бұрын
They asked Amy to pose next to Borg because she's gorgeous... With all due respect.
@amylundy8664
@amylundy8664 Ай бұрын
Aweee thank you sir
@michaelgarza8271
@michaelgarza8271 Ай бұрын
​@@amylundy8664 You're very welcome.
@user-hv4dv7gm7j
@user-hv4dv7gm7j Ай бұрын
The way Alcaraz bulldozed Djokovic I want to call it bulldoz match of the century.
@phumkiatwananuraksakul7815
@phumkiatwananuraksakul7815 Ай бұрын
Djokovic is injured.
@colethomas903
@colethomas903 Ай бұрын
@phukkiateanuraksakuk7815 if he was so injured he should’ve withdrew from the tournament or final stop with excuses ain’t nobody got time for that he was outplayed end of story
@alekssmiljanov7448
@alekssmiljanov7448 Ай бұрын
@@colethomas903 his movement was not 100% and he was behind the ball all the time. It was good enough against other players but obviuosly not against Carlos.Wheather it is consequence from he surgery or old age time will show.
@ianypanait9216
@ianypanait9216 Ай бұрын
Nole might as well face Carlos in as many as 4 other gs finals and concede them and that would be just as beautiful to witness
@ianypanait9216
@ianypanait9216 Ай бұрын
gs/big title finals*
@jennes3200
@jennes3200 Ай бұрын
Djokovic has the most grand slam finals losses all time with 13. Next most is Fed and Lendl with 11. Highly unlikely Novak will win another slam, he’s already older than the oldest GS champion ever which was Ken Rosewell at 37 yrs 1 month.
@photopro28
@photopro28 Ай бұрын
Alcaraz played very well, but I've never seen Novak play so poorly in the first 2 sets. When does he go down a double break in the first 2 sets in a Major final? Probably never before this final. He also looked out of it mentally. Also, Novak net rushing and getting destroyed with passing shots. I think Novak had physical problems, or he's slowed down quite a bit.
@piggykim9410
@piggykim9410 Ай бұрын
Novak is done!
@marfu1119
@marfu1119 Ай бұрын
Djokovic was just a solid baseliner. He had no one to challenge him in that department over the last couple of years. Players he beat in the Wimbledon finals Berrettini and Kyrious has a one dimensional game. Federer unfortunately choke the 2019 final.
@creativestudio101
@creativestudio101 Ай бұрын
Yep, Novak is a baseliner, first and foremost. And he's above anybody else in that regard, specially cause of his speed and consistent shotmaking. But also, cause he plays high-percentage shots to the point of nausea, and he can withstand it with his incredible defensive skills. But when he tried to be offensive, well... It just didn't work cause he's simply not an offensive, ultra-agressive player by nature, and all that serve-and-volley seemed totally forced, awkward at best. Meanwhile, Alcaraz is an aggressive, seek and destroy monster, that also can play a defensive game, and more.
@toddjohnson271
@toddjohnson271 Ай бұрын
lol....thats all Novak was......and just demolished everybody.
@neton8471
@neton8471 Ай бұрын
In Spain its AlcaraTH, in south america and south part of Spain they say it like you do. In Spain atleast where he is from is going to be AlcaraTH.
@rahultnnambiar9251
@rahultnnambiar9251 Ай бұрын
He is Alcu, a little boy doing big things. 😁😆😂🤣
@chocosquirrel3319
@chocosquirrel3319 Ай бұрын
He is Alcatraz
@jblack7159
@jblack7159 Ай бұрын
I believe you are right if you are saying that in Castilian Spanish (as spoken in Madrid and some other parts of Spain) Carlos's name is pronounced AlcarATH, whilst in other parts of Spain and Latin America it's pronounced AlcarASS. It may therefore be seen as excusable for a commentator to pronounce it either way, although Carlos himself seems to pronounce it as AlcarATH. However, what Gill seems not to realize is that the emphasis should be on the LAST syllable, not the first. Amy picked up on this from the way the Wimbledon officials were pronouncing it but Gill failed to take in what she was saying. I heard somewhere that around the time of Queen's Andrew Castle, the commentator, was miffed because he had heard that Carlos had complained about how his name was being mispronounced. One wonders if ít was Carlos's complaing that led to officials at Wimbledon finally getting the it right. If so, good on him! Some may think this is a trivial matter but I'm inclined to the view that commentators (and analysts) should show some respect to the players and do their homework. Carlos is far from the only player to get his/her name mangled.
@TercerokoWorld
@TercerokoWorld Ай бұрын
Carlos destroyed both Gill and Djokovic.😂
@creativestudio101
@creativestudio101 Ай бұрын
Good one!!😂😂
@joycew.6531
@joycew.6531 Ай бұрын
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@user-oo2pw5ob2v
@user-oo2pw5ob2v Ай бұрын
Anothee factor: Alcaraz is 2 years younger than sinner. By the way, every spaniard would say alcarath, or just alcarà, dropping the last sound, in southern spain. Alcaras more probably in sudamerica
@aurei7775
@aurei7775 Ай бұрын
Looks like Lundy was spot on. I thought Novak still had in him to pull off that Novak magic and wins slams he's not supposed to and combined with everyone else not showing great form. I guess Novak had a great shot to vulture this slam if Tiafoe upset Alcaraz and won that tb But reminder Alcaraz has yet to outperform Novak in a HC slam (when Novak competed ofc). USO could be a close contest, and I like Medvedev there a lot more than the other surfaces.
@JB-im5kt
@JB-im5kt Ай бұрын
Gill - Novak made the final on a bum knee. Give him another 6 months. Yes, he had a lapse of motivation early this year, but he doesn’t need to be written off.
@atanudey8998
@atanudey8998 Ай бұрын
Keep dreaming 😎😎😎
@pharaon8134
@pharaon8134 Ай бұрын
This was his last chance to win a Grand Slam, from now on will play like Murray never to win something big again, mark my words.
@williammartine5168
@williammartine5168 Ай бұрын
the Olympics are coming fast, wonder if Nole and Rafa are ready . I see a run from Nole maybe, but Rafa has not passes any real tests on clay as he likes the test to get the mojo going.
@z1az285
@z1az285 Ай бұрын
He is playing the nordea open on clay
@slXD100
@slXD100 Ай бұрын
considering we've seen Novaks movement and speed wasn't enough for a Wimbledon title, I highly doubt on his olympics outlook.
@Nick-iu7ks
@Nick-iu7ks Ай бұрын
Age has caught up with Novak
@tonydecastro6340
@tonydecastro6340 Ай бұрын
you may fool Mother Nature some of the times, but you cannot fool Father Time at anytime... Djokovic, perhaps for the first time, did show his age in that final match-up... And no technology can fix that, at least not yet... It is strange that the three commentators do not mention at all that de Minaur, one who could have challenged Djokovic a bit on grass given his speed, withdrew from their quarterfinal match, thus giving Djokovic some breathing space and therefore his demolishing of Musetti in the next round...
@globaltempo
@globaltempo Ай бұрын
Without a head coach, he is self coaching himself. I don't know if that's going to be good enough. Nobody is pointing out he avoided to appreciate his team's work when he was asked for it in his aftermatch interview. There's something going in there, I believe it's an issue, and he es lacking the motivation he always had in the past.
@amylundy8664
@amylundy8664 Ай бұрын
Interesting point
@AashimGupta15
@AashimGupta15 Ай бұрын
Amy and Joel - don't you think it's time for the three to be Alcaraz, Sinner and Djokovic? Would love to hear your analysis on the current champions as opposed to erstwhile Big 3.
@geraldaruna8907
@geraldaruna8907 Ай бұрын
You predicted Novak will win 😅😂
@ManuelPorcell-el9cx
@ManuelPorcell-el9cx Ай бұрын
The emergence of players like Alcaraz reinforces my opinion that there is no Goat in any 1 to 1 sport as long as the sport continues, however I agree with the Best or most Successful of his Generation or period( 7-8 years?). That would be Graf, Serena, Sampras, Roger, Novak…and maybe now Carlos if he stays healthy.
@seanl6885
@seanl6885 Ай бұрын
Djokovic is not any slower compared to 12 months ago. He wasn't fast enough for Alcarez in 2023, then and now. Federer is not competing. And Djokovic is without a coach. There's no better time than now for Federer to teach Djokovic how to volley. Otherwise Djokovic will be racking up runner-up trophies prior to his inevitable retirement.
@Nazhuk
@Nazhuk Ай бұрын
i said the same thing. If Med wasnt a crazy servebot against Carlos in USO 2023 semis Alcaraz would beat Novak in the final in 5 sets
@generalshockwavekingpin326
@generalshockwavekingpin326 Ай бұрын
The heir to "The Big Three" has arrived.
@vivahernando1
@vivahernando1 Ай бұрын
It makes sense because the Spanish people in the UK is from Spain. I think the 'TH' is more used in Spain
@carolinaprioglio1315
@carolinaprioglio1315 Ай бұрын
I love this show!
@amylundy8664
@amylundy8664 Ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@mireafelder8194
@mireafelder8194 Ай бұрын
29:10 It's called Gh-shtaad, coming from a Swiss German native speaker.
@daylightSweet
@daylightSweet Ай бұрын
Pepperstone rankings have Sinner #1. Novak still at #2 and carlos still at 3. i guess carlos just got to keep his 1000 points from last year..but Novak got 600 new point‼️for reaching finals
@colethomas903
@colethomas903 Ай бұрын
@daylightsweet Djokovic didn’t get but 100 points Carlos defend 2k which means he didn’t lose any points another person on here that doesn’t know what there talking about but what’s new
@hih5868
@hih5868 Ай бұрын
Novak is but a shell of his former self, much of this is do to age and throw in the latest minor knee surgery and it was destined that he would get crushed when he faced a great player like alcaraz. HE absoloutely got washed out to sea and should not have played wimbledon. His main goal should have been the olympics this year. He has a big hole in his resume for not having a gold medal and he should have rested for the olympics
@MrCWL
@MrCWL Ай бұрын
In hindsight, even he would surely agree with this statement. Then again, it may have spurred him more than anything else ever could have to maximise his level and all roundedness to beat Alcaraz again in the future. Which he would never have gotten if he hadn't taken such an embarrassing loss. Would be amazing if he goes down that path to try that.
@winterbird4447
@winterbird4447 Ай бұрын
I think Wimbledon will prove to be very important to have given him match sharpness for the Olympics. Which was his plan as Olympics has been his main goal all along.
@alekssmiljanov7448
@alekssmiljanov7448 Ай бұрын
he used Wimbledon as preparation as he was booked to play Hamburg this week. GS Final is better result that winning any 500.
@olgadebartolome1332
@olgadebartolome1332 Ай бұрын
AL_Ká-raz, the stress is on the second syllable!
@alir8329
@alir8329 Ай бұрын
Sorry, and with all due respect, but as a Spaniard we emphasize the first and third A, the hypothetical stress would be álcaráz.
@globaltempo
@globaltempo Ай бұрын
@@olgadebartolome1332 You should stress the last syllable "Alcaráth"
@rk-jc9se
@rk-jc9se Ай бұрын
Show about Djokovic primarily. LOL. The show is sounding archaic and not keeping up with the times. Still hung up on one retired dude, one almost an exhibition player and one close to the finish line. Why not at least put Alcaraz, Sinner, Djokovic as the 3?
@VJ-ip1xc
@VJ-ip1xc Ай бұрын
That is really good suggestion to This channel to continue being interesting and keep up with the updated best three as suggested.
@nemanjamilosevic1370
@nemanjamilosevic1370 Ай бұрын
Wow.This show started as a show about nole,rafa and fed,when Djokovic retires it is going to end,so what's the problem.Recency bias is strong right now.
@punns643
@punns643 Ай бұрын
Novax had a weak draw
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