KickScammers: The VEGA+ Scandal - SGR
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5 жыл бұрынUPDATE 1,
At the time of this videos original release on the 2nd December 2018 the information found at 39:37 (7th May 2017) was correct. However, as the video was removed and re-uploaded on December 8th 2018 this information became incorrect and Jonathan Cauldwell himself has informed me that he has indeed left the retro scene as of the 4th December 2018.
UPDATE 2,
01:03:38 4th May 2018 AUDIO GLITCH CORRECTION...
The Awesome Website ThatRetroVideoGamer leaks the games list for the Vega+ and it's quickly torn apart by Kieren himself as it includes a huge number of games that RCL do not have the rights to include.
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@yaboisanic2922 5 жыл бұрын
Epic
@anime-mun 5 жыл бұрын
Button button who has the button?
@supernifty 5 жыл бұрын
Your Streamlabs link doesn't work
@angreeee 5 жыл бұрын
ef patreon
@zhaang666 5 жыл бұрын
There is voiceover missing at 1:03:42 - 1:03:54 You probably have your voiceover in the not exported line in your sequence.
@spyderwylde Жыл бұрын
Slopes: "Biggest and most brutal kick scammer of all time!!!" Intellivision Amico: "Hold my beer..."
@OhKayEl Жыл бұрын
Amico wasn't a scam, it was a very earnest attempt at launching a successful game console... The problem is that it was made by a narcissistic.
@randallscott4581 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, VEGA+ didn't become a scam until Paul and Chris were forced out.
@ladyaceina 10 ай бұрын
i bet pual andres is who we need to talk to about tommy
@leighamharford9288 4 ай бұрын
@@OhKayEl His mother is very proud.
@Allen.Christian Ай бұрын
@@OhKayEl It was a scam. It may have not started as a scam, but they were telling blatant lies about very key things while soliciting funding. That's textbook fraud. It doesn't matter what your intentions are, if you are willfully misleading investors about your capabilities to do the thing you're promising them that you're trying to do, you're scamming them.
@Asdayasman 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Andrews killed my dog, and blinded me with the reflection of the sun off the top of his head. I'm suing for £113.96.
@SolusLunes Жыл бұрын
"Let's get on with the most detailed and in-depth Kickscammer that I will ever, ever do." Good ol' Tommy Tallarico made you go back on that one!
@Arcane_Digital Жыл бұрын
I thought Tommy had the trademark on “Haters”?
@somedudefromTX 6 ай бұрын
His mother must be very proud
@Laura-JVR 5 жыл бұрын
I backed this... Perhaps one day they'll lay my backer edition red model upon my grave.
@Grayvorn 4 жыл бұрын
Given their appalling conduct, wouldn't that be desecration?
@twilightparanormalresearch186 4 жыл бұрын
The Parallel Nexus lmao
@frankowalker4662 3 жыл бұрын
I am sorry for your loss. My condolences.
@PointsofData 3 жыл бұрын
I like that you said "upon" and not "in", because that leaves infinity for them to fulfill it
@Laura-JVR 3 жыл бұрын
@@PointsofData There's just be a groove in the stone 'Place VEGA+ here'
@gabrielleandsamuel4073 5 жыл бұрын
Me: Wow, what a disaster. *looks at time stamp* Me: I’M ONLY 18 MINUTES IN??
@gameboi20 5 жыл бұрын
Gabrielle Joy Durrett IKR how ironic 😂
@Eric-Truong 4 жыл бұрын
Gabrielle Joy Durrett I see this comment as I scroll down and look at the time stamp at 18:00
@AtemiRaven 4 жыл бұрын
Right? It just keeps getting dumber and dumber as it goes on. I am not even a business owner and am competent I could have been more successful than these asshats.
@Arro3 5 жыл бұрын
It's like a bunch of kids lying to their teachers/parents constantly. "Yeah yeah, I got my homework done!"
@Burger_pants 5 жыл бұрын
Except those children get punished when the parents find out, they don't get to run off with half a million dollars of other people's money with 0 accountability...
@SsnakeBite 5 жыл бұрын
"... but Paul Andrews ate it!"
@kingofthemonsters8357 5 жыл бұрын
Can you see it? Well... I don't have it because Paul Andrews destroyed I- I mean my dog ate it!
@wolfetteplays8894 2 жыл бұрын
@@Burger_pants to be fair, half a million might as well be nothing in today’s economy. Paradoxically, it’s harder than ever to make any bit of money in today’s economy. Rich get richer, and all that shit 😂
@GrubbJunker 5 жыл бұрын
Holy balls. What a dumpster fire. This just in: Paul Andrews is accused of being Satan and blamed for WW1 and 2.
@psyshyify 5 жыл бұрын
@@josephikrakowskiwithflextape clearly he was Paul Andrews in disguise!
@josephikrakowskiwithflextape 5 жыл бұрын
@@psyshyify How did i not think of that, it makes so much sense!
@cargopros8246 5 жыл бұрын
Damn it paul
@theodorelehman 5 жыл бұрын
Clearly Paul Andrews is the Illuminati. The whole organization. It's just him.
@eLJaybud 5 жыл бұрын
Paul Andrews ate my hamster!
@TheRocketSlime 5 жыл бұрын
My parents marriage has fallen apart clearly Paul Andrews is to blame
@PokeMaster22222 5 жыл бұрын
It was Walpole. ...Oops, wrong channel.
@AndrewHalliwell 4 жыл бұрын
One week later, Mr levy was seriously injured when he fell through a plate glass window. Paul Andrews issued the following statement... "I'm sorry,but this really has got nothing to do with me." ( With apologies to the not the nine o'clock news that's life sketch)
@codydfwn 3 жыл бұрын
_"I'M GONNA TAKE YA FOR A RIDE."_
@williamsmith666 3 жыл бұрын
The wedding Chapel has since been struck off by Companies House.
@Scrubworks 5 жыл бұрын
I stubbed my toe on a table leg today. I reckon it's probably Paul Andrews' fault.
@josephschultz3301 5 жыл бұрын
Safe bet, yo. If you sift through ancient biblical texts, Paul Andrews apparently ate the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden.
@marcoamazo 3 жыл бұрын
I have a stomach problem, I blame Paul Andrews.
@justaduck3615 2 жыл бұрын
My toast is slightly burnt, definitely his fault.
@SuperKiobi13 2 жыл бұрын
Human bias will always let you to find a way to blame those you don't like
@SonJazrin 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperKiobi13 That post you made was sponsored by Paul Andrews.
@Winter_337 5 жыл бұрын
Wait hang on, I zoned out for a second and now there's sex robots...
@OdaSwifteye 5 жыл бұрын
What else is new?
@vguyver2 5 жыл бұрын
and pedophile;s.... with children sex bots. God I wish this was made up.
@Xetelian 5 жыл бұрын
I saw the image of the child sex robot and laughed so loud I woke up my wife in the next room, I'm in trouble but I did show her what was so funny and she hates me a little less because it was a good laugh.
@cloudywolf4836 5 жыл бұрын
This video dragged
@Bhazor 5 жыл бұрын
Listening to this while playing Total Warhammer I had to alt tab out thinking it had autoplayed something totally different.
@benedictrogers1478 5 жыл бұрын
This reads like a program in BASIC. 10 PRINT "PAUL ANDREWS' FAULT" 20 GOTO 10
@mihaeltomasovic 5 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@davidspring4003 5 жыл бұрын
More like 10 PRINT “PAUL ANDREWS FAUT” 20 SCREW UP AGAIN ON SOMETHING THAT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO ACTUALLY BE HIS FAULT 30 GOTO 10
@seraphinberktold7087 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidspring4003 Syntax error!! You forgot the REM command after line number 20. :-)
@davidspring4003 5 жыл бұрын
Seraphin Berktold I’m not fluent in basic. Apologies.
@CandyHatsuneWolff 5 жыл бұрын
@@seraphinberktold7087 ?REDO FROM START
@VestinVestin 5 жыл бұрын
I wanted to make a comment about Paul Andrews, but couldn't come up with anything original... I blame that on Paul Andrews!
@williamsmith666 4 жыл бұрын
All comments are not registered with Company's House.
@cartmann94 5 жыл бұрын
Take a drink everytime someone blames anything on Paul Andrews.
@xolta11 5 жыл бұрын
But if I did that Id die.
@S_Evenwar 5 жыл бұрын
Use water so you don't die.
@Arukar83 5 жыл бұрын
And now my Whiskey is empty! Damn you Paul Andrews!
@jasonsalisbury7965 5 жыл бұрын
great, now I'm an alcoholic. DAMN YOU, PAUL ANDREWS!!!
@michaelroper8448 5 жыл бұрын
I would be drunk as fuck.
@Mace2.0 5 жыл бұрын
KickScammers: The Motion Picture: Director's Cut.
@PhoenixWakeStudios 5 жыл бұрын
Ultra Super KickScammers Fighter Alpha E2: Collector's Edition Premium
@youareababoonandiamnot4317 5 жыл бұрын
Based On A True Story
@Winter_337 5 жыл бұрын
Scam of the Year Edition
@yourremum6440 5 жыл бұрын
& Knuckles
@yakovhadash 5 жыл бұрын
...U Deluxe with Funkette Mode
@Dermetsu 5 жыл бұрын
Importing weed is the least criminal part of this scandal.
@AtemiRaven 4 жыл бұрын
Right? Weed never hurt anyone but a bag of Doritos. This douchebag ripped off thousands of people.
@F40PH-2CAT 3 ай бұрын
No it isn't.
@johnhoo6707 5 жыл бұрын
I don't understand these people. You got 500k in free money, and instead of using that money to actually build a decent product (doesn't even have to be great!), build a profitable company that will pay them for years to come, you blow it all away in losing battles?
@LightsolP 5 жыл бұрын
I said to my brother that it sounds a hell of a lot like what happened here is that Levy and his group didn't really think that Paul's project would garner interest, and when the original Vega actually sold decently, they decided to say fuck it and take all the money, trying to rig things so that Paul and his team would take all the blame/legal liability...
@KnakuanaRka 4 жыл бұрын
LightsolP Yeah, it was odd how the first Vega went just fine, but then things went to h🔥ll in a handbasket so fast with the Plus.
@fooballguy3479 3 жыл бұрын
@@KnakuanaRka paul andrews leaving idk
@jubeaumont6305 Жыл бұрын
narcissists
@F40PH-2CAT Жыл бұрын
Levy thought of it as a cash cow he could use as he saw fit. He ended up being right.
@MrWitho 5 жыл бұрын
My God, the effort that went into breaking this all down and detailing the chronology of this dumpster fire is unreal. Great video mate. P.S. TLDR - it's all Paul Andrew's fault (apparently).
@frostare Жыл бұрын
Paul Andrews Made Did It: Robot Sex Edition
@jonathancauldwell9822 5 ай бұрын
This video hasn't aged well and nor has your comment
@SlavTiger 9 күн бұрын
@@jonathancauldwell9822 elaborate
@michaelsheridan3633 3 жыл бұрын
What kills me is it became obvious early on that some heavy duty fraud and slander was going on, but Indigogo became an active participant in such by blocking anybody who called them out on it and did so with impunity.
@Colddirector 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus christ, I'm half an hour into this and I feel completely lost. What the hell is even happening?
@Joeink100 5 жыл бұрын
Im an hour in and I forgot what product this is on about. All i kmow about this issue rn is about male sex robots and pedophilic robosexuals.
@bluerath 5 жыл бұрын
@@Joeink100 and that this paul andrews fellow is an actual real life bond villain
@4hand561 5 жыл бұрын
Paul Andrews is bad
@RubenRyb66 5 жыл бұрын
I lost track of what was going on about 15 minutes in. He has that English guy talking about the fabulous lives of celebrities voice schtick from those old tabloid shows on vh1 or the E! channel xD
@lorumipsum1129 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know what's happening either. All I know is that it's somehow Paul Andrews fault.
@doktawhawee9870 5 жыл бұрын
If Kojima were to write this story, then the plot twist is that Paul Andrews was the villain the whole time.
@Heartrose7 3 жыл бұрын
No it would be (energetic politician's voice) "Nanomachines son!"
@williamsmith666 2 жыл бұрын
Something tells me Kojima would sympathise with Suzanne Martin a BIT too much...
@Israfel36 Жыл бұрын
It would be that Paul Andrews wasn't _really_ the president but it was in fact his third and final clone: Very Paul - who was also the villain the whole time.
@gagejohnathan9641 Жыл бұрын
I think he'd have made Sir Clive the villain
@TomJacobW 14 күн бұрын
@@williamsmith666 why that?
@blanchfor 5 жыл бұрын
The fatal flaw was the project team changing right after the money was raised, to be taken over by scammers.
@trailersic 5 жыл бұрын
Yes they left themselves too open to be took over by the scumbags running Sinclair research
@KnakuanaRka 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I guess that explains why everything went to hell in a handbasket so quickly after the first Vega did so well.
@kelsohunt460 2 жыл бұрын
Is the reason known why so many quit immediately after the money was raised?
@RicksTravelogue Жыл бұрын
@@kelsohunt460 It's stated about halfway in why Paul Andrews and Chris Smith left RCL. In short, internal bickering between those two and David Levy.
@mgabrysSF Жыл бұрын
The Atari VCS tried to fall into the same trap. The person who spearheaded the 'Ataribox' idea initially, made a run for the campaign money. Fortunately, Atari (all two dozen of them) still had a functioning company head who promptly shitcanned him (and the moron in Boulder CO who initiated the hardware design but then tried to kill himself skydiving) and reformatted the product into a competent Ryzen box (thanks to legacy Apple product finishers in San Jose 'SurfaceInk'). Not only am I typing to you on it now (via Ubuntu) but the AtariOS side (of the dual OS configuration) just got it's copy of Atari 50 installed (which supports the paddle controllers combined with the classic controllers). It's done it's job to allow me to test Proton / Linux on Steam before the Steam Deck arrived (2 years after the VCS was released) nicely.
@starbird3939 5 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for Paul Andrews. I don’t think he did anything but he gets blamed for everything by the real crooks.
@nordern1 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't followed this closely. But I feel at some point you just get up in the morning, thinking "Oh boy, I wonder what I'm responsible for today!"
@slopesgameroom 5 жыл бұрын
01:03:38 *4th May 2018* AUDIO GLITCH CORRECTION... The Awesome Website ThatRetroVideoGamer leaks the games list for the Vega+ and it's quickly torn apart by Kieren himself as it includes a huge number of games that RCL do not have the rights to include.
@moag2000 5 жыл бұрын
Did you leave a blur in the middle of the screen for a lot of time? 30:00 and after
@dadeleemurphy85 5 жыл бұрын
why did you remove the original version from a few days back?
@mostmelon 5 жыл бұрын
@@dadeleemurphy85 From what I can tell, he blurred out the face of Lee Fogarty. I can't say for sure, but maybe that wasn't him or maybe he requested his face be blurred.
@neonte13 5 жыл бұрын
Do you want a list of timestamps of audio skips/hiccups to check? Obviously, if they're in the source, and not some weird KZfaq thing, there's nothing you can really do about it, and so far, most of the ones I've noticed either don't cut out speech at all, or leave plenty of speech to infer whatever's missing. They all strike me as some sort of corruption, so far, as the audio skips ahead slightly and a seemingly random tiny blip of audio from somewhere replaces it. Well, glitches and the haunting by a blurry apparition, aside, it's a brilliant video, so far. Hopefully you can get an exorcist 'round to dispel the spirits, eh? And for the record, I'd much rather have a version with weird issues than nothing. It's a bloody intriguing story, and you've clearly put a ton of work in, already.
@chaos.corner 5 жыл бұрын
I downloaded the original when it was up before and the audio is OK but the video is a little different so I'm thinking the audio got messed up in an edit?
@Bread-kun 5 жыл бұрын
I think I'm just going to blame everything and anything on Paul Andrews from now on whenever something goes wrong.
@rapmastac1362 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know, I still thank Obama for everything that goes wrong 😜
@PartnershipsForYou 3 жыл бұрын
*points fist at sky* ANDREWWWWWSSSS!!!!
@F40PH-2CAT 2 жыл бұрын
Well, this company is now officially dissolved as of last Thursday. I think the complete story can be told.
@SudrianTales Жыл бұрын
I reckon it was all Paul Andrews fault
@richardwilliams5387 Жыл бұрын
It's particularly insane that what they promised was well within technical capability. It's not even like they were promising something they couldn't actually deliver.
@Jp-eg7th 11 ай бұрын
Once they went with the fuse emulation option rather than pure hardware then most of their market edge was gone. But at the very least they could have just sat down for months doing controller to key mappings for every single game. That would at least given them some edge over the 47374882 very competent retroarch handhelds available from China.
@moonandroid5290 5 жыл бұрын
The funniest thing, is that this entire 1 hour and 22 minutes long video, can be summed up in a simple sentence: *They took the money and lived lavishly while it lasted without getting anything done.*
@AtemiRaven 4 жыл бұрын
Yea we already knew that part though. Every one likes a good run down of events. I mean you can summarize anything in one or two sentences. Such as: Tedd Bundy was just a charming, sick bastard who killed a few dozen women and was then executed. Brexit was just the UK leaving the the EU. The 2010s were just memes. Chemistry is just atoms binding together. See?
@Andronicus87 4 жыл бұрын
Have you noticed America is falling apart because nobody has any integrity or morals anymore. If you don't want to die you better get your morals back. China, Russia, Iran, and Turkey will sweep in here and kill us all if we don't get our shit together.
@lorumipsum1129 4 жыл бұрын
WhiteMaze better yet, it can be summed up in two words. Paul Andrews.
@Andronicus87 4 жыл бұрын
@@alabaster5302 OK Karen.
@exxelsetijadi5348 3 жыл бұрын
@@Andronicus87 whoa there, don't get too far off to the future. let's see if America (the USA, not the continent) can survive post-election first
@astrayl 5 жыл бұрын
“Selling like hot cakes” to be fair I can’t remember the time I actually bought a hot cake so maybe 11 does qualify? Probably Paul’s fault either way.
@Killer_snail 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas Roe this video did make me stop and think about that saying and wonder how many people line up for hot cakes per day.
@KnakuanaRka 3 жыл бұрын
@@Killer_snail Yeah, that phrase is pretty old. 🕸💀
@KetsubanSolo 3 жыл бұрын
Man a hotcake sounds good right about now. Probably Paul's fault.
@zmbdog 3 жыл бұрын
McDonald's used to sell them. They had to stop in the early '90s cuz the styrofoam packages Paul Andrews designed were bad for the environment, but I think they came with 3 cakes. So, sure.
@Maggerama 5 жыл бұрын
Almost 1 tb of movies on my HDD lay unwatched for years and I'm watching this. And this is better than a movie.
@DarthPerkins 5 жыл бұрын
Where else would you find a company called Ping Pong and a man who went bankrupt trying to make sex robots? EastEnders?
@DarthPerkins 5 жыл бұрын
And it just got better! Muslims threatening a sex robot convention! Dirty Den never did anything like that!
@Maggerama 5 жыл бұрын
@@DarthPerkins Lynch has nothing on it!
@DarthPerkins 5 жыл бұрын
@@Maggerama I'll give Mr. Levy the benefit of the doubt that he was creating robot sex children for the good of humanity, but HOW ON EARTH would you get funding for it?! WHAT factory would make them?! WHO (apart from Levy) would even admit being involved in anything like that?
@Maggerama 5 жыл бұрын
@@DarthPerkins Maybe that's where them backers' money went partially, lol. Imagine trying to support an indie console and ending up paying for this.
@YowLife 4 жыл бұрын
It is said taht Paul Andrews is the son of Dinkleberg.
@belphy205 3 жыл бұрын
DINKLEBURG!!!
@MasterOfKnowledge. 2 жыл бұрын
@@belphy205 Andrewberg
@childofcascadia 5 жыл бұрын
God, Im not even from the UK and only vaguely know what a zx spectrum even is. That being said it was still interesting in the same way a horrific dumpster fire is. What a clusterfuck.
@WalkerRileyMC 4 жыл бұрын
ZX Spectrum is to the UK as the Commodore 64 was to the USA.
@stonehorn4641 3 жыл бұрын
There was a new Sinclair retro model (console version, not handheld) by a different company this year. I have one. The manual is like a university textbook. Cool little console (you can also buy just the board).
@davidlawrence8711 4 жыл бұрын
From Wikipedia, as at November 2019: On 5 February 2019, The Register reported that Retro Computers had been wound up on 1 February 2019[38] following a petition presented by Private Planet Ltd[39]. The sole director of Private Planet, Janko Mrsic-Flogel, was a director of Retro Computers from April 2016 to August 2018[40] and also used the Indiegogo crowdfunding platform to raise over US$2.5 million[41] to produce the Gemini (PDA) for Planet Computers Ltd. Seems odd, Janko didn’t much air time in the video.
@KnakuanaRka 4 жыл бұрын
fidgitnz Yeah, this could use an update.
@PointsofData Жыл бұрын
Janko was only the director, and AFAIK he didn't do anything publicly egregious. What is there to say about him, specifically in regards to the Vega+? Yeah he might have been in on the scam but...that's about all you can say, nothing concrete.
@catnip420 Жыл бұрын
This is the absolute best video on this channel. It's 2022 and I still come back to it now and then. Shame how it ended with Vega+.
@EvilGrin 3 жыл бұрын
RCL has officially been wound up in February 2019, so if you didn' get your V+ yet, there's no one left to produce it now. Not that there was any money left for production after the lawyers had been paid anyways. In a better world, scammers would be liable with their personal fortune and property for the damages they did, regardless of the class of company. But that's not how it works in RL unfortunately.
@NoraInuG 5 жыл бұрын
All the world ever wanted was a portable Sinclair ZX spectrum.... Was that so hard to do? Apparently so...
@KnakuanaRka 4 жыл бұрын
NoraInuG I mean, they did the plug and play version so well, so why did things go to hell in a hand basket so fast with the Plus?
@dvt1393 3 жыл бұрын
@@KnakuanaRka Personally, I blame Paul Andrews.
@gavindoherty7809 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there are a few handhelds out there that could play emulated spectrum games.
@valletas 3 жыл бұрын
@@gavindoherty7809 yea but the novelty was the portabke in itself For example i bough a gba years ago even though i hardly play it and most gba games i play it on a psp
@alonecoder600 2 жыл бұрын
@@gavindoherty7809 the existing emulators for handhelds have poor compatibility (Russian software won't work, and this is very interesting software that makes Speccy a full workstation, also with many unique games)
@peterhausen3185 2 жыл бұрын
My phone died while watching this video, an S22 Ultra, almost new. I emailed messaged Samsung customer service since I got it from their store, their reply: Blame Paul Andrews.
@SwiftNimblefoot 5 жыл бұрын
I had - well, still have - a ZX Spectrum, and it boggles the mind anyone would try to revive that dinosaur as a console... when it never was a console, it was a home computer! Also, I fail to see why anyone would need this thing - or the console they did release - when you can emulate all those ZX Spectrum games for free. And the keyboard is a far closer control system to the original keyboard of the ZX - my hands are still "set" for that kind of control, not the ABCD- NES style thing.
@ptonpc 5 жыл бұрын
If only RCL had just made an updated version of the Spectrum and had an online site where people could buy games.
@vguyver2 5 жыл бұрын
People love plug N play game consoles. They are a fast and easy way thing to setup at home for or quick gaming. This also helps with idiot proofing since I have several friends who ask me to set up their emulation because they are both impatient and inept with computers. So there is a market, not a BIG market, but a market for these type of devices.
@SwiftNimblefoot 5 жыл бұрын
@@ptonpc Not even sure we would have needed that, since we have perfectly serviceable Spectrum emulators. Or remakes. I remember playing Jetpac on a windows-ran exe file back under WinXP.
@andrewbevan4662 5 жыл бұрын
QAOP
@Davinhomx 5 жыл бұрын
Swift Nimblefoot idk but some people may love some games on it. It gives them a nostalgic vibe. And who gave them a Nostalgic vibe? Exactly, the developers of the games did that years ago. So, some people, may just prefer to actually buy the product and handing some money to them via license rights instead of downloading (stealing) it for free and piss straight into their faces by doing it
@AnomalyArcadie 5 жыл бұрын
Great to see this back up. It was super interesting and you can tell so much work went into it. It'd be a shame if it was all for not.
@MickeyD2012 5 жыл бұрын
*All for naught.
@zmbdog Жыл бұрын
"The most in depth and detailed Kickscammer I will probably ever do." Intellivision Amico: _slowly raises hand_
@natecw4164 5 жыл бұрын
This was one of your first videos suggested to me months back and I thought "I don't have 90 minutes for this." Now I just wish there were more videos on YT that went this in depth
@alyfan1 5 жыл бұрын
I found you because of your history of SplatterHouse but, Man, I have become obsessed with your kick scammers videos! Their amazing! You have a new subscriber!
@PushyPushyPhoenix 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is impressively exhaustive and just thinking about the amount of research beyond what's on screen, files downloaded, text typed, editing time invested, and reading, in your jovial tones, a 90+ min. script that could be seen as rather dry...well, it's exhausting! That said, Believe it or not with this format you've inspired me to move forward with a timeline project I've been putting off. While never wanting anything to do with a crowd funded game console. So thanks for that. :P
@LukeAllen23 4 жыл бұрын
The Retro Computers website hasn't had a blog update since May 2019. If the story is still ongoing, I would love to see a follow-up video.
@Mareritt 5 жыл бұрын
I love how you slipped Illusion of Gaia (1:07:15), Chrono Trigger (1:10:05) and Terranigma (1:13:23) music into the video! XD
@tokyohanamura 5 жыл бұрын
& the best song in Terranigma too!
@Ubersnuber 3 жыл бұрын
Like a slippery penis. Or he throws in VG music in all his videos, no slipping required TF dude
@YowLife 4 жыл бұрын
19:13 "Shedule"? Forgot the "C" there, my fellow American.
@slopesgameroom 4 жыл бұрын
Woopsie
@YowLife 4 жыл бұрын
@@slopesgameroom No worries. I'll see you at the next Red, White, and Blue/Bald Eagle/ Hamburger meeting on Independence Day.
@KarlHamilton 3 жыл бұрын
@@YowLife you havin a turkish
@gratuitouslurking8610 5 жыл бұрын
Careful! This lot may flag the video again and then blame it on Paul Andrews!
@shaye1444 5 жыл бұрын
This kinda proves that people should stay away from indigogo.
@williamsmith666 3 жыл бұрын
Or crowd funding in general.
@zmbdog 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have the attention span to watch movies anymore, yet I can't stop coming back to this video despite its length. This saga is like a train crashing as soon as it leaves the station but continually tries to keep going only to immediately crash again every time.
@TheGlitched64Reads2 5 жыл бұрын
So you were able to post it back here and not have to mirror on Guru Larry's channel? That's awesome, but what changed? Did they back down?
@BlinkLed 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not 100% sure, but I think he just edited the few bits that had been flagged as a privacy violation.
@ZootC 5 жыл бұрын
It's clear that Fogarty objected to the use of his face in the video at the time stamped parts of the original video. There is no way that KZfaq would have upheld the complaint because if you search 'Lee Fogarty' in google ( the parent company ) image search then the number one returned image is that exact image of Fogarty's face : Ergo it's already in the public domain. In order to uphold the complaint then Google would have to concede that itself is in violation and remove the image from its database. Clue: It was never going to happen. I'm pleased that Daniel has found a way to return it to his channel though, that's where it deserves to be.
@SolidGoldCEO 5 жыл бұрын
I think it was that one twitter picture where they covered Fogarty's face with a clowns.
@ZootC 5 жыл бұрын
@Trevor Walker Yes, it is now in this edited version. That was the change made to avoid the complaint. It was not blurred in the original. I still believe it was unnecessary as Fogarty's behaviour in the community has brought so much publicity on himself that his image and personal information is all very much in the public domain and a matter of record. You can't claim a violation of privacy when you have spent three years being very public around the very issue of this video. But the man is a clown and throws legal threats around like confetti at a wedding.
@Burger_pants 5 жыл бұрын
This is why america is better, public information cannot be considered private, in the UK people can sue for anything, being offended is illegal there.
@chrisliam3017 5 жыл бұрын
HUGE respect to you guys for making this, the amount of research and script planning must have taken forever! they should have got you to work on the VEGA+ it would have been finished in days!
@slopesgameroom 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support, glad you liked it
@therealfauxstradamus1135 4 жыл бұрын
Yo did you get Fredrik Knudsen to help with this? That voice at the end is eerily similar. You totally did and that's fucking awesome.
@HouseOfFunQM 8 ай бұрын
I think the funniest quote, that often gets overlooked, is: "We are further ahead than we were this time last year" Like yep I would hope you made some fucking progress on the project after 365 days. Fucking hell.
@AwfulWaffle8474 4 жыл бұрын
It seems that it took more work to not make the Vega+ than if they actually dedicated the time to making it.
@CS-mo7xp 3 жыл бұрын
true!
@dankoga2 4 жыл бұрын
It's may 30th 2020 and I'm listening to this video for the, maybe, 7th time while doing dishes. And this dumpster fire is still worth listening to! If I'm alive by 2022 I'll, or even before, I'll try listening again.
@rotteldastation Жыл бұрын
I'm quite late, but it's 2022, hope you are still alive :)
@Keirnoth Жыл бұрын
How ya doing now buddy?
@jubeaumont6305 Жыл бұрын
hello future me ! d- did we make it ?
@napoleonfeanor Жыл бұрын
2023 now, still alive?
@tmw3489 Жыл бұрын
It's 2023 and you have an even better video to do the dishes to now!!!
@sinful9347 3 жыл бұрын
No clue why I'm only just watching this in February 13th, 2021 at 8:03 AM, just showed up in my recommend videos one day
@TheBaltorusite 5 жыл бұрын
That blurry circle looks really distracting
@mikeb.379 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@ShadowJinjoYu 5 жыл бұрын
I thought it was something wrong with my tv
@slopesgameroom 5 жыл бұрын
it will be fixed in like 12 hours, i wasnt expecting it to stay on teh screen for as long as it did
@mikeb.379 5 жыл бұрын
@@slopesgameroom Happy belated Birthday by the way :D
@michaelroper8448 5 жыл бұрын
@@slopesgameroom Good. Thought I had cataracts.
@gurriato 5 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest, any drama is going to be more entertaining than playing some crummy ZX Spectrum games that you could already emulate on any number of devices anyways.
@NineToFiveGamerUC0079 5 жыл бұрын
@dbright What was it?
@USAReject 5 жыл бұрын
@Ed Jack This is a smart thing to do. I'll never understand why anyone even uses those sites tbh, the vast majority of cases - even the most well-funded projects ever (see: "Coolest Cooler") end up having disastrous outcomes, delays, and often never fulfill every claim they make. The issue is that the fundamental concept behind crowdfunding 'ideas' by random people is utterly flawed - how could anyone think it's a good idea for hundreds and thousands of people to give their money willingly to a random person, trusting them to be able to manage the production of a product and a business with no prior experience and nothing except a fucking idea alone? Most 'idea' kickstarters never have a final product, they just show a prototype, and people fund it expecting them to just make more of a perfect prototype or whatever, when in reality the truth is that they have no idea what they're going to run into when they actually began production. For these reasons among others, I think all of these crowdfunding sites are retarded, a perfect platform for incompetent fools and scammers, and anyone who regularly wastes their money on these websites surely has something wrong with them, because so many of the projects funded by these sites are stupid or end up being disastrous like this one.
@siralexander3359 5 жыл бұрын
True
@JinxVanAshke 5 жыл бұрын
@Ed Jack I view it as a better form of gambling. I never put in more than I can afford to lose. I try to play my odds and sometimes my 5-20 dollars ends up being a win and a new game or something. Or at worst an anecdote.
@suiwei2813 5 жыл бұрын
@USA Reject Shovel Knight was crowd funded and they not only delivered what they said they would but a lot of extra content and like, 4 extra games iirc? Plus a digital card game. Literally nothing went wrong.
@craigsphotography46 5 жыл бұрын
Again superb work Slopes, going to watch it again now, too much to digest first time I watched it. Absolutely crazy story!
@Yusuke_Denton 5 жыл бұрын
1:18:19 A wild ashens appeared!
@mistie710 5 жыл бұрын
It's super effective (and also an excellent conclusion!)
@michaelwautraets7126 5 жыл бұрын
1:18:50 a wild Frederick Knudsen appears (Down the rabbir hole, good channel)
@HiddenGemsReviews 4 жыл бұрын
Oof, I fell out of bed this morning. Pretty sure I heard Paul Andrews chuckling outside my window.
@nielsen145 5 жыл бұрын
for me, this proves, that crowd funding needs either to be taken down, or get some rules,laws or regulation in place, so that a company cant play god on other peoples money. they could pay the company in installments, like in a builder/contractors work, so when they reach a milestone, they can get paid certain amount of money
@volrath__ 5 жыл бұрын
The problem is, that it's too easy to lie about developments and milestones. All crowd funding sites make it clear that you support a project AT YOUR OWN RISK. The morel of any of these kickscammers is, only support a campaign if you are happy that you may never see a return on your investment.
@trailersic 5 жыл бұрын
The problem is they need to have someone personally liable for the campaign and if the campaign isn't fulfilled by the deadline that person has their kneecaps smashed in.
@DFX2KX 5 жыл бұрын
@@volrath__That's my personal policy I've backed a few things. The first Gamebuino, The Gamebuino META, a keychain multitool, and three video games. in ALL cases, I've been able to either get the item, or play the game, even if the game side of things moves rather slowly.
@AnarchistMetalhead 5 жыл бұрын
unfreezing funds after a milestone, as long as a substantial part of backers agree the milestone has been reached, exists in ethereum fundraising contracts. while most ICOs during the hype did not use it, at least in this area you get to choose those that follow this model
@ProffyChaos 3 жыл бұрын
I know it is a long time after posting this video but I only just found your channel and working through everything. Really great work from everyone and great to hear some familiar voices 😀
@DeadAsmodean 5 жыл бұрын
RCL is the Chris-Chan of game companies.
@sangan3202 5 жыл бұрын
Joseph Convoy im working on it!
@quinnzykir 5 жыл бұрын
Both are looking for boyfriend free girls
@PinothyJ 4 жыл бұрын
@@quinnzykir That definitely Explains Levy's whole sex toy thing…
@valletas 4 жыл бұрын
Man there are people still making fun of chris chan...
@sdbegotist 4 жыл бұрын
They'll still be referenced till we chop down the internet
@TheChestnutBowl 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like I come to watch this video once a month. The story is engaging and the video itself if well done. I hope Slope does an update video, or updates us on one of his Kickstarter News vids.
@KnakuanaRka 3 жыл бұрын
Chestnut Bowl There apparently is an update, but it’s Patreon-exclusive. (/>_
@frumiousgaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@KnakuanaRka did it ever become public?
@KnakuanaRka 2 жыл бұрын
@@frumiousgaming IDK, I just asked another commenter about it, and they said it was Patreon-exclusive. Never followed up on it.
@sirdarkon4517 4 жыл бұрын
Soooo its now late 2019...any updates? Y know cuz the cliffhanger ending
@KnakuanaRka 3 жыл бұрын
SirDarkon IF Apparently, there is an update video, but it’s Patreon-exclusive. (/>_
@dub2536 4 жыл бұрын
This is the first day I have now viewed five of your video's. I must say that I like your accent and I enjoy your content a lot. This video is very detailed and it is of a game unit I never heard of at all. I live in the Washington DC area of the USA. I am impressed by how detailed you got in regards to the entire scam these guys did. Hat's off to you. Keep up the great work M8! I am a subscriber no doubt! Peace
@gearsofgames 5 жыл бұрын
This was a beast of a video! :) I haven't really been following this drawn out debacle very closely. So thank you for making this video, so I could finally get some insight into what's been going on.
@lifestream_real 5 жыл бұрын
I feel awful for all the fans of the ZX Spectrum who wanted to believe in a modern handheld unit. Sadly, they placed their money in the hands of what has to be the most incapable group of people imaginable. I truly wish that this sorry saga will be put to rest soon, but I'm not counting on it. Thank you so much for this huge Kickscammers episode, DJ Slopes. Always love your work. Keep on being amazing.
@Akojiguy 5 жыл бұрын
This video was great. And then I hear Fredrik Knudsen's voice. It became legendary.
@AmigosRetroGaming 5 жыл бұрын
That's an unbelievable tale. Kudos for the time and research put into this amazing video. Amazing work.
@vguyver2 5 жыл бұрын
Just watching this is exhausting. I'm amazed you folks managed to collaborate and put up such an extensive video.
@ytsm 4 жыл бұрын
Indiegogo = *IndieNONO* How did this disaster remain free of violence?!
@TigerTailsTV 5 жыл бұрын
It goes down, it comes back... I wonder what the reason was.
@AcornElectron 5 жыл бұрын
TigerTails TV are you being sarcastic? Hard to tell these days in comments 😂😂
@SodaPopBarbecue 5 жыл бұрын
Fredrik Knudsen and shady, private, personal info-based evidence that lead to legal trouble with the parties involved with Vega+, I believe.
@brentjamesonparker 5 жыл бұрын
@@SodaPopBarbecue are you saying that down the rabbit hole had a part and taking the original video down...?
@Specter227 5 жыл бұрын
What did Knudsen do?
@TigerTailsTV 5 жыл бұрын
@@AcornElectron Haha, Don't worry Gareth, I wasn't. I'd saved the original when I saw in the desc it was being pulled but I hadn't watched it. Halfway through now and I can see why you'd think my comment was sarcasm. 😂😂😂
@tacotone 2 жыл бұрын
Love coming back to this every few months. A great trainwreck of a campaign
@ghostgirl7089 5 жыл бұрын
Im confused what the issue was and why this was taken down, but im glad its back up! Its my favorite by far of all Daniels works! Amazingly done!
@eddiedingle767 5 жыл бұрын
Ghostgirl 708 Dan said that he got a privacy complaint about the appearance of someone in the video & was given a list of time codes & this person appeared in all of them, making it blatantly obvious .
@mylesfrost335 5 жыл бұрын
@@eddiedingle767 that's not as exciting or hilarious as blaming paul andrews though
@eddiedingle767 5 жыл бұрын
Myles Frost #FuckPaul
@JoseMartinez-jm1bu 4 жыл бұрын
59:00 " my god......" I've been able to not only watch this entire work of art put together so flawlessly, but also to time mark your " my god....." !!!! More than a year almost every night been trying to watch it fully and I just did it today! Thanks guys great work ! ( My god.......)
@teen_laqueefa Жыл бұрын
59:38
@royalfoil5413 5 жыл бұрын
Thank God this is back up. When it was up and it was announced that it was going to be removed in a few hours due to some pretty controversial stuff in it, I was curious, but because I was in school I never even had a chance to see it.
@SodaPopBarbecue 5 жыл бұрын
It was removed due to controversial voiceover choices(Knudsen, who, along with Ashens, has been removed from the credits(What did Ashens do?)for some reason) and a personal info-related Cease&Desist being issued methinks.
@royalfoil5413 5 жыл бұрын
@@SodaPopBarbecue ah thanks Weegee.
@Clay3613 5 жыл бұрын
@@SodaPopBarbecue Ashens is still in the video...
@SodaPopBarbecue 5 жыл бұрын
@@Clay3613 His and Knudsens's credits were restored. They weren't there a while back.
@robdimambro1674 Жыл бұрын
Slope: "The most brutal and biggest Kickscammer EVER!" Tommy Tallarico: "Hold my non-existent Amico controller"
@napoleonfeanor Жыл бұрын
Lol I just made the same comment
@Skaera75b 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, dude! Thanks for the upload, I really enjoyed this.
@MrThankman360 5 жыл бұрын
I love how Larry pops up on the corner and just faintly says "Hello you."
@vietgrove 4 жыл бұрын
Holy cow what a mess. That little console looks like it would have been really neat if only it had been made properly. Kudos to everyone involved in making the video, must have been a shitload of work involved.
@EpochDesigns 5 жыл бұрын
I love the use of the Terranigma music, truly a underappreciated game.
@Pantsmode 5 жыл бұрын
Poor Paul Andrews :(
@Aix_Plainer 5 жыл бұрын
Never, never, never ever support a company that uses IndieGoGo.
@Joeink100 5 жыл бұрын
This video also says the opposit. The first product they sent out was pretty good and on time what it tells you is that good management and handling of your licenses is important and before backing something checkup on the state of the company or accept the risk and treat it more like an investment than a product purchase. I dont agree with that but still thats how crowdfunding does work.
@cargopros8246 5 жыл бұрын
IndieByeBye
@USAReject 5 жыл бұрын
@@cargopros8246 IndieStopStop
@camrunner6633 5 жыл бұрын
Paul andrews has alot to answer for, or he would if he actually did something The concept itself is a winner but bubmled by scammers who then had to make a product they had no intention of doing to avoid jail
@JohnDoe-gx4wu 2 жыл бұрын
Its Paul Andrews fault, My imaginary hamster told me. lol :)
@davidlewis5312 2 жыл бұрын
there was no consequences for any of them. Not for the LLPs that harassed rights holders and GOSH while knowingly pocketing crowdfunded money. Not for the SRA that covered it all up. Not for Levy, Janko, Cauldwell, or Martin. Not for Indiegogo that seems to have spent more time punishing disgruntled backers then the company that used them to garner their blow money. The losers were the backers, plain and simple.
@barelyasurvivor1257 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating ,I had not heard much about this over in the US,very well done and very informative .
@redrum1116 5 жыл бұрын
the sound is missing at 1:03:38 about the may 4 2018 update
@skilledwarman Жыл бұрын
Having just recently found this channel and having started with the Amiga video hearing this called "The most detailed video I will probably ever do" was pretty funny in retrospect
@PhoenixWakeStudios 5 жыл бұрын
You know a story is messed up beyond any hope of redemption when the title story isn't even the worst thing they've done in the past couple of years. Great job, Dan! A ton of work must have gone into this one!
@joseramirez-yk1ho 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched tons of your videos and only now realized you two aren’t the same person, love these long videos!
@MrCrownUK 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't a clue how I got here or why I stayed for the entire video...Entertaining and informative thought it have been, I regret everything!
@DevilSurvivor69 2 жыл бұрын
After watching this, I see where Tommy Tallarico got his Amico public relations playbook from lol.
@HappyBeezerStudios 4 жыл бұрын
So, now we got 2019... How many have gone to jail and how many backers have sued indiegogo by now?
@KnakuanaRka 4 жыл бұрын
HappyBeezerStudios - by Lord_Mogul Yeah, this could use a follow up.
@samppa_j 5 жыл бұрын
31:26 why's the bloody blur effect still here
@slopesgameroom 5 жыл бұрын
Annoying isn't it. It's a KZfaq edit that will hopefully disappear soon
@TheBeaverhouse 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Never even heard of this before. If I may make a suggestion, you should do a video on the Animusic 3 Kickstarter. That was almost as huge of a disaster, and it's a real shame.
@chrissre7935 5 жыл бұрын
If it was emulated you can get plenty of Better emulator consoles like PSP that run those games at 100%
@gwishart 4 жыл бұрын
The Nintendo DS is the perfect handheld device to run Spectrum emulators. The screen resolution is exactly the same (256×192) so there's no scaling required; and you have the benefits of both re-mappable physical controls and a virtual Spectrum keyboard on the touchscreen.
@KnakuanaRka 4 жыл бұрын
gwishart Interesting to know; sounds like a better idea than this, especially given that DS cartridges are a lot cheaper.
@tomoyaokazakiremiejordan756 4 жыл бұрын
my cat died today, i reckon it's Paul Andrews fault
@wilmz68 5 жыл бұрын
Jeeezuss....I had no idea. I thought about getting one back when it was announced then just forgot about it. Great in depth video!
@ZachGatesHere 3 жыл бұрын
Every so often I revisit this one because it's just a damn epic
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