Clubs voted against this recently

@@KEViiNTEMFX It was conducted by the FA, not UEFA, if I can recall.

@ashton5249 yeah

U hate it because the owner own so many club ? What exactly do you hate ? Do you hate because the have money or do you hate that this will lead to the team getting stronger and u team getting weak ? Why u hate them forhaving so many team ? I dont get it

@@exivianilove4707 I can't explain why multi club ownership model can destroy the integrity of the game in here because there are so many points to cover. But let's just take Red Bull owned clubs for an example, the 2 major clubs owned by them are RB Leipzig and RB Salzburg. Take a note of how many players both the teams, they both have a connective network benefiting all the clubs involved in this. You can also look at the reasons why both the RB clubs are hated in both Germany and Austria, you will get some idea from that.

As long as the best team in world world doesn't do it, it's alright✌

Thats the thing people get butt hurt over a club that is creating a sports business

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@@madeupstory9510not the best team itw theyre not even top of the league😂😂

Rio Ave too?

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lfc fan got angry lmaoo

I'm just wondering how much you lot will be disappointed when things don't pan out the way expect them. Like, do you know how improbable such penalty is? Even if Man City was to somehow found guilty, the most probable punishments are fines, transfer window ban(like Chelsea), and point deduction. Any form of retrospective punishment, relegation or worse is very very unlikely. Yet, this narrative is being passed around so much that everyone convinced that it's inevitable and it's just a matter of time. And when things end up different, we are going to see you lot complaining that there was some form of corruption in the English legal system as well. I'm just waiting for that day!

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i got the 100th like on this funny comment yay

They never did Chelsea found a loophole mancity cheats see the difference

Thats different they didn’t really profit off that

​@@harryfoster9184 They profited alot from that

Its called feeder clubs. Look it up

@@nikoladraskovic5857 it’s not a feeder club if you have the same owners

Cease* not seize

Arguable really. All of Red bull, Liverpool's FSG, United's INEOS and more have such systems. You can't just make it cease, it's way too complicated.

The rule never works, really. It is what it is.

​@@madeupstory9510red bull & Liverpool have nothing similar. Liverpool just buy Red Bull player because they have kinda same mindset players. Liverpool has only brought 4 Red Bull products. Liverpool has nothing to do with Red Bull.

@@kmahtanah he said them individually

😭😭 so true 😢

People don't like that either

Because the owners of the City Group are not white Europeans. Bias as always.

That's reason why the Red bull teams are the most hated in those leagues

that's why they are so hated in Germany and Austria

Yep off the top of my head, Gulasci, Bernardo, Upemacano, Sabitzer, Laimer, Sesko, Keita, Schlager, and Kevin Kampl have all played for both clubs. Tyler Adams also came from New York Red Bulls.

Ita so bad for football. There needs to be way more rules put into place to stop clubs from doing this so easily

I think you do not understand promotion and relegation

​@@kieranduchayla6657bad for football lol anyway its good for football players ngl if you remove other multiple ownership club lot of football players will be jobless Less chance for footballers to show what they made off in the pitch and train in high standard training facility if you remove multiple ownership of big clubs

Troyes owns him

@@dawhne5002 who owns Troyes? The city group.

@@SJG31 I know

Finally someone gets it

💀no offense but that’s Udinese and Watford

So why should the rules be different? Why should the standards be different? If people hated the transfer system, they’d have called it out whenever they saw it. The fact people are only calling it out now with Man City suggests it’s actually hatred for Man City

@@user-yz8zr4kj5h that’s not what I meant and I understand your frustration. But by saying what I said I meant that what happens in smaller clubs is less known. There are probably a lot of things happening in some small clubs that I don’t like but I just don’t know about it

If you take what the Red Bull Group has been doing for years I find it annoying. And in Germany particularly it is HATED not even disliked. It is the same way people also hate what City’s group is doing. Most people would also hate what happens in Udinese but either their attention has not been drawn to it OR it hasn’t made a huge impact on the progress of those teams so people don’t care

Which club do you Support? Chelsea ?

What, 3 dumb comments. How long until 2 city or RB teams are deciding a tournament final? The owner group decides who wins and who loses...

@@anirbankar4941 obviously no

@@croskoal oh look.. the cream of the crop.. go sound your protest on internet and hope all the rich people controlling “the beautiful game” heard your plea and listens to you

@@mrartdeco dude, I don't care either way. Multi ownership does serve a purpose, prince. I'm just saying what it's likely to happen at some point if you keep investing successfully on mediocre teams

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Boo corruption

@@kitty_kats_love It's called playing the game. Cry more.

Why is it a problem?

Can be hard to determine fair market valued, Italy is a prime example of that.

​@@somethinglikethat2176 the only way is to know how much Is someone willing to pay. But if the owner Is the same for the two clubs they can inflate the price and this can be used as a tax layoff for the expenses, basically exploiting the transfer market to get an advantage over other teams.

They could buy him for 500k and say yep both clubs agreed that's fair...

@@kieranduchayla6657 and if both clubs agree, then so what? That's up to them. It's a benefit of a good investment, nothing wrong with that. Other clubs are free to do the same, and they do.

@paskapaterson4019 okay you've no idea about the impact this can have on football so let's just leave the conversation here.

It’s only a problem once Man City do it

Exactly

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Nah man it's already bullshit when Red Bull do it. Just look at the hate Leipzig and Salzburg get in Germany and Austria.

We hate them equally. Who even called what Redbull are doing "smart"?

City been doing this for years dont act brand new cuz people are shedding light on it now

What? Red Bull have been criticised for it beyond belief. Maybe not in MLS but in Austria and Germany, massively.

There has been tonnes of criticism for Red Bull, hell I've even seen critiques of Watford and Udinese in the same vein

Its just ruining the game at that point

​@zdopezz3744 but it would have been absolutely fine if City paid €30m to another club? Not sure what the problem is, the money is still counting against City for FFP purposes, he's moving for fair market value, and a smaller club now have more funds to help improve their team. Why is it an issue that Troyes are owned by CFG too?

@@liamnoble7206 because it goes against their anti-city agenda, and they cant be level headed and use their brains online, as that would be too intelligent for these people

Why not have City group just own all teams then? They can have their own little private football manager game then. The shit is terrible for football, the only people ok with it are the ones who support clubs who participate in it

@@hoodwiser7652 completely different things

Yess

People have had an issue with Red Bull doing this since they started doing it. Look how Leipzig is viewed in German for example.

Exactly. They only complain when they see City doing it. It has been rampant for decades.

And who disadvantaged from this? Football players' agents? Good then.

like saying youth academy’s are stupid, it’s the same. you still own the player they just don’t play for your first team

Still don't see the problem, they might be fumbling the numbers but who really cares?

ok but it's not like the money comes from thin air. That's 50M that city have to balance in order to meet FFP regulations

City don’t own the whole club. Same with Girona they own a majority stake in the club but there’s multiple owners.

No, the CFG can't set an arbitrary price. The fee is based on the estimated market value of the player. It'll be closer to around 30 million. Please remember as well, that the whole CFG setup is geared towards maximizing a player's potential and comfort. I'm willing to guess that most people draw the line with savio because 1. It's city and 2. Savio's actually really good and they'd like him to sign for their team.

​@@EMETRLexactly everyone complaining is stupid. Plus there's tons of talent round the world and these players at multi owned clubs aren't shackled to the city group, if they want to go I'm sure they can.

Exactly what I said. He called as "the stupidest comment section he has ever had" in one of his replies. It's very apparent that he is pushing a narrative. Just give him a dislike, hit him where it hurts so he can be disciplined.

@@madeupstory9510 Yea. Troyes get the income they need, they also get a great and extensive scouting network to secure new players once Savio leaves. Manchester City gets to develop players they already wanted through other CFG teams

Boo corruption

Lol City fans always playing the victim when they do nothing but cheat.

There's everything wrong with this.

@@spinyslasher6586 what really

​@@spinyslasher6586 yes everything is wrong when your club isnot doing it. Dumb ass dont you get it if any player is coming out a multiowned club it doesnot mean it the best player always comes out. Plus they can always buy them paying a high price

@@spinyslasher6586explain what’s wrong then?? You’re just jealous

@@Madvillain69551 Jealous? Jealous how? Protesting against corporate interests isn't jealousy, it's a cry for democratisation and less corporate overreach: 1) Corporations shouldn't hold a monopoly on football pipelines. 2) It furthers commercial interest in football over the interests of the actual fans. 3) Actual fans get alienated over international tourists and plastics. It's no longer about how dedicated you are to the club in your life, it's about how much money you can give to the club. Fans become commodities.

Yes it is, what people are saying is there is an issue with the rules.

They can leverages their investment..u understand or not..they can start by recruiting and end of days control the money transfer according to their will. In the end the player can be transfer within the same company and like cronyism, its all about who you knows

@kitty_kats_love or at the end of the day the player can fail,,madrid bought renier Jesus same time they bought vini and rodrigo after,,2 of them made it madrid one did not,,,its a risk buying talent doesn't mean a thing,they have to make it or else you're operating at a loss

@@kitty_kats_loveit’s all if buts and maybes. I don’t believe there’s been a single player at City who’s actually played more than like 5 games who was moved around between all of these clubs before ending up at City. Savio’s just good enough that City ‘s haters are jumping to worse case scenarios for no discernible reason. City have more of a relationship with Benfica than any of their own clubs.

Eh... Nope. If anything, it will be Grealish leaving.

youre clearly too young to understand the problem with this

@@haws3307 what has age got to do with it you melt. I'm 30 lol. We've never really seen this before unless you can enlighten us with your big age? Clubs will try to leverage advantage in whatever way they are allowed. Absolutely nothing wrong with it in my view. If it's so critical for the football world at large then they should change the rules

@@haws3307you’re clearly to immature to have a sensible discussion

​@dav2745 you're immature for not arguing his position whilst changing the subject.

@@belluh-1huey102 🤣🤣 you are clearly not smart, I literally made the exact same point he did to highlight how stupid it was

Well it'll ruin girona ffp? And they never did such a thing (yet). In any case everything that man city had done for girona leading to the state of girona now.. And its good.

@@alone2break Just to be clear, what I'm outlining is merely potential. And it won't necessarily ruin the FFP of the clubs used as a feeder club. The rest of the 'lower' clubs will be used to service the ambitions of one or two higher ones. This can be possible because to the owners, all the clubs are one entity. Again, this is just potential.

You can’t recognise how monopolising football clubs around the world could be detrimental? Bro just think about the transfer spend inequity that could stem from this. Without regulation the greediest clubs will have such a ridiculous advantage in terms of avoiding FFP breaches through spending across multiple clubs. It’s a terrible loophole that needs to be fixed

​@@DMac__Instead of crying and being salty how about your team get better mate.

​@@DMac__Actually, teams in Europe are only allowed to buy players at their minimum market value... unless their contract has a release clause on it. They're not really cheating FFP

Football at sport and a business. So I no problem with the multi club system. Because it can help smaller club to typically good players for their level. It can help the development of players to find clubs that would their development. And the bigger club and get a player who is excelling and the smaller. And if that doesn't work that can just go back

Wow. Nice facts ​

All I hear is FACTS!

Then by your words that Rma and Barcelona ruining football for years?

@@user-hp3ll6we4x Barcelona yes and Real Madrid probably

dominating this era? Lol

Well done to Man City, they’ve eclipsed Aston Villa in terms of league titles.. but not even overtaken Forest in terms of European titles. ‘Dominating this era’.

@@deangreen2567 Yeah and they have won the Treble just last season bruh. And only 10 teams have acheived it in history lol. Ok and they had reached the final of Champions League in 2021. If only they had won it against Chelsea. So keep underestimating. I actually like that. Ok thats the end bye

@@ashfaqsheikh3134 how does that prove that they dominated this era ?

Same old city fan garage “but we won a treble” let’s see if they beat the court case (spoiler they aren’t) good luck finding a streaming service to watch city in the national league

Bahahaha you have no idea about multi club football ownership my guy…they’re not getting a “discount” on Savio. They literally already own this player (asset) under a seperate club

We need kalvin as reserve

@@Marex5341 There's no need he doesn't even play anymore

@@mehreenshaukat695 Yeah no shitious sherlock thats called a reserve

@@Marex5341 That is the whole reason for his downfall he should leave imo I love him just if this continues to happen then ye no he's done

If my club had this I would absolutely complain.

​@@spinyslasher6586 I call bs

The thought of every club having this model makes me sick

@@spinyslasher6586 you’re standing from an outside position so obviously you can’t have a proper view of it; if your club (idk who you support) was owned by the same owners as Real Madrid and your club got Guler or another young player cheaper than others could you’d constantly complain and want him out of your club? Come on

Facts bro. I can’t believe so many “football fans” are unable to recognise how detrimental multi club ownerships can be

​@@DMac__All of Douglas Luiz, Pedro Porro, Brahim Diaz, Jeremy Frimpong, Yan Couto, Oscar Bobb, Kayky, Dobvyk, Ferran Torres, Herrera, Baptise, Maximo-Perrone, Issa Kabore, and many more are talents that never made it to European teams radar spotted by multi club ownership models. The system is not one that's supposed to bolster Man City or any of these teams. It's a project of recruitment whereby potent players are signed from every corner of the world, loaned out for development, and sold on profit. It's money for the model owners and opportunity for the potent youngsters. Savio is an exception deemed to be too good and so he was retained. But the audience here is misunderstanding things primarily cause of how you made the video. It of course has it's cons as well. Firstly, even though the players signed are loaned out to teams which match their style of play, if a club within the group is a viable option, they will be the priority. Such opportunity will give them an advantage. As of now, it's only Girona who are over-performing. But this might also happen to Troyes, Bahia, New York FC and the others. Since this is not fair, I believe that the number of transfers within a group should be capped. Limited the number of teams to be owned by also be effective. And finally, Redbull also does recruit a lot of talents. If the system, as per your suggestion, was to be abolished, the talent pool in Europe would take a massive hit. You are massively oversimplifying things. If there is any other con which I missed, I would love to know.

You hate it only because your club cannot benefit from it.

@@freakyholic I will hate it too if my club was one of them they are destroying football

I don't care. As one of the beneficiaries, I've been enjoying it.

I ain't no fake fan

bro how is he hating on them. literally all he said was that they are exploiting a loophole, which is what they are doing. the only person hating is you

huh well aren’t you a smooth brain. go look up the 115 pending charges that your club is facing

@@dimitri5🫡

​@@michaelvictor6033The alleged charges?

100% man. Some of the dumbest comments I’ve read in a while too 🤦‍♂️

​​@@DMac__Piss off you little wanker. I wanted to reply respectfully but now it's obvious that you are just pushing a narrative. The Redbull is hated for making the clubs they bought simple advertisement utilities. Like, many English teams are owned by the same model and they've been "sharing" players for years. It was never a problem. But nobody would like their club to be renamed to "Redbull Liverpool" or "Redbull Hamburg". The system is accepted in the English league and teams approved the decision. I'm addition, you said that this is not about Man City but you did this vid not when Redbull shared 25+ players in the last couple of years, not when Todibo was firmly linked to newly INEOS owned MAN Utd not when Southampton signed players from Udinese. Cause why not wait for the team you despise to do it so you can hit 2 birds with a stone? And all of these pathetic sheep think that you lot did something. Fuck off!!

You don't even know what a Plastic fan means do you? You just use it to name fans you don't like... Well, after all, that's where you're reach is limited to isn't? Crying and disapproving online? Enjoy your only coping mechanism!

@@madeupstory9510 you’ve made 32 comments on my channel crying. Just stop bro, no one cares about what you have to say

@@DMac__interesting tone, hardly how I would expect a KZfaqr to act toward a viewer. You’ve presented a biased opinion on a controversial topic and are now getting pushback and all you can do is revert to insults. Not a clever way to end an argument.

It's all narrative bruv, just give a dislike. Notice how quickly he skipped on the PSV loan portion? He just wants to push a narrative and the illiterate sheep of an audience he has believe that he is wise for "pointing it out" But after all, as along as this is all they are limited to, crying online, it's a fair price as we will be shining our trophies.

@@madeupstory9510 Lol anythings a narrative to City plastics who play the victim while supporting the biggest cheats in world football.

Of course, he will not reply to this comment because he's too busy hating on City.

He literally spoke about it months ago and he sounded really passionate. This guy is increasingly becoming a d*ck.