Is Germany the right choice for medical PG ?

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4 жыл бұрын

Is Germany the right choice for medical PG ?
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@Dr.Ijaz_ab
@Dr.Ijaz_ab 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a second yr resident in Germany, cleared my approbation in first chance. The most happiest thing is that you can choose the branch you like✊
@Jeevanrajeev55
@Jeevanrajeev55 3 жыл бұрын
Bro , isnt approbation a bit tough than earlier! Can you tell me where did u study german and evrything else plz if possible
@Dr.Ijaz_ab
@Dr.Ijaz_ab 3 жыл бұрын
Procedures are the same as told earlier in this channel. Kenntnisse Prüfung aka Approbation is tougher than earlier because they are raising the standards now and they are checking the German fluency simultaneously during the exam. German you can learn from any German language school, but most important is how you learn the language outside the class with videos and books and how you make practice of speaking.
@Wanderwithkhizer
@Wanderwithkhizer 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dr.Ijaz_ab i am from Pakistan i graduated from china did mbbs should I give Pakistan medical license exam then apply for Germany or i can give Approbation exam without passing Pakistan medical license exam
@Dr.Ijaz_ab
@Dr.Ijaz_ab 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wanderwithkhizer if you have the license to practice in China, you don’t have to give the licensing exam in Pakistan, you can proceed with the procedures in Germany (internship should be completed)
@Wanderwithkhizer
@Wanderwithkhizer 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dr.Ijaz_ab but I don’t have license to practice in chinaa too i just completed mbbs looking for Germany
@abheekdas7595
@abheekdas7595 4 жыл бұрын
Each and every word u r speaking is true. If any med graduate of India wants to do PG of choice, he or she has to leave India
@jibinjoseph460
@jibinjoseph460 3 жыл бұрын
Really informative video dr, kudos to ur effort
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@lucasriquieri9596
@lucasriquieri9596 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! th u so much
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@twicejjang2711
@twicejjang2711 3 жыл бұрын
I like your video sir. There's much information in it but I just wanna ask. What if I did my residency in Germany and decided to move in Switzerland after residency. Would they still accept me as a specialist?
@arunshiriskar5835
@arunshiriskar5835 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for giving me information
@MonikaSharma-bx9xw
@MonikaSharma-bx9xw 3 жыл бұрын
Hello sir, I am a second yr med student and i have started learning German language from now onwards from youtube, and I want to do pg in Germany and settle up there. Please make video on when to start learning language and on the book reading of German med, all these things when to start .
@wondertraveller9928
@wondertraveller9928 3 жыл бұрын
There are many schools offering German classes in India
@rithikaritz7005
@rithikaritz7005 3 жыл бұрын
german pg is not recognised in India but 😔
@Dr.Ijaz_ab
@Dr.Ijaz_ab 3 жыл бұрын
You can check out DW podcast “langsam gesprochene Nachrichten “ meaning slowly spoken news
@theoptimist9451
@theoptimist9451 3 жыл бұрын
@@rithikaritz7005 when did she say that she wants to work in India ?
@bhivusingh7296
@bhivusingh7296 2 жыл бұрын
Language course....... Site...????
@rb8947
@rb8947 4 жыл бұрын
I have EU diploma and waiting to pass FSP. I am a bit worried because I feel even I know very good to pass FSP, that my German language will bot be enough for Weiterbildung at begining. Did you also have the same feeling? Does Oberarzt usually have understanding for foreigner doctors at begining when you start your weiterbildung that your German language is not good, or they expect at begining that you are pro in German Language?
@Fissou14
@Fissou14 4 жыл бұрын
Following
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 4 жыл бұрын
its not just your Feeling, its a Fact. everyone goes through it. The Chefarzt who hires you, knows about the deficit but hopes that you will learn fast and work hard to improve the deficit
@DrPBPanda
@DrPBPanda 3 жыл бұрын
Respected Sir , Would you like to share the books which provides us knowledge to study pg courses ?Please. Thank you.
@drrajsheth9143
@drrajsheth9143 4 жыл бұрын
Hello sir, i completed my internship right now in india and want to join orthopedic surgery only , can you give some contact to connect you directly? insta id or anything, wont bother you much as i know you are busy , just wanted to know is there any difference of quality of teaching in some hospitals?, for example did you experience within 4 years that joining some hospital would be better for orthopedic surgery than other? according to patient load and no. of cases and teaching faculty
@abedabegum8418
@abedabegum8418 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thank u so much for very informative video, these points are core for any pg aspiring student in medicine. Appreciate your time and efforts to make this valuable video
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for your kind words.
@mauryeshdesai6836
@mauryeshdesai6836 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir for the info. I’m in my final year of mbbs in India and planning for PG in GERMANY ..Sir can a doctor after they’ve completed their PG in Germany work around other European Union countries freely ?? Waiting for your answer sir !
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 4 жыл бұрын
yes, you might want to Enroll in our Online Course : Roadmap for Medical PG in Germany dminetzacademy.teachable.com/p/complete-guide-for-doctors-coming-to-germany2
@dr.mahmad7303
@dr.mahmad7303 3 жыл бұрын
Guten Tag, Nice video Please let me know about the prospects for Dermatologists in Germany. Danke schön.
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, thank you. The process remains the same, however finding a Dermat Vacany is more difficult that finding a Int Medicine or Surgery position
@kashyapchaudhari3032
@kashyapchaudhari3032 3 жыл бұрын
Sir, Is it worth doing a specialization of your choice, even if it's in a top institution, or is it better to do some other specialization from a more renowned institution?
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
The department of your Interest should be choosen first, as you will be doing that work everyday for most of your life, the name of the Institution is secondary
@kashyapchaudhari3032
@kashyapchaudhari3032 3 жыл бұрын
@@docdeemishra Thank you sir!
@gabalhadeed2945
@gabalhadeed2945 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice explanation and very helpfull. Thanks alot bro. Am asking about home study, is it helpfull for me as preparing to be resident surgeon in germany to study in english and keep working to improve my german language????
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 4 жыл бұрын
yes,
@karanjohal89
@karanjohal89 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Dr Mishra. Thanks for the wonderful knowledge provided in the video. I am an Orthopaedic surgeon in India. I had a query : if i get into residency position in Germany in the field of orthopaedics, can the 6 years duration of residency can be reduced because of my Indian residency/experience ? Thanks for sharing the details. Waiting for your reply.
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, yes one can apply to the reduction of duration, but the decision is taken by the Gutachter ( the person who analyses your documents) , so it cant be said for sure.
@karanjohal89
@karanjohal89 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the reply.
@jatanrana273
@jatanrana273 3 жыл бұрын
Doctor, i want to ask one thing, what is the duration for master in radiology in germany?
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
5 years
@rashmeetharamdoss5528
@rashmeetharamdoss5528 4 жыл бұрын
This vedio was helpful sir but i have a doubt is there any course which is mainly dealing about plastic surgery rather than general surgery
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 4 жыл бұрын
yes, its called Facharzt Weiterbildung fur plastische Chirurgie
@moemenmohammed9562
@moemenmohammed9562 3 жыл бұрын
I am preparing for USMLE, would it be helpful in matching. I have interest in orthopedic surgery and I wonder would it help or not
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
USMLE will not only be helpful, it is mandatory to apply for the MATCH in the US. or did i not understand the question ?
@madvolume69
@madvolume69 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please tell more about the salary structure? The no savings part is a little concerning. A little more numbers, whenever you have time. Thank you.
@tejanvesh
@tejanvesh 3 жыл бұрын
What about the para clinical course like pathology, I did md in pathology working as assistant professor in university, planning to migrate, do I require German language?, How to search for PhD/ms related to pathology.
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
PhD / MSc courses are also available in English. www.daad.de check out this website
@DrSarSwa
@DrSarSwa 4 жыл бұрын
Sir...in which others countries one can move n practice after complete pg from Germany... Plz make a vedio on that
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 4 жыл бұрын
ok
@ramprasanth2951
@ramprasanth2951 3 жыл бұрын
If I'm completing b1 today and b2 next year ,I'm eligible for fsp on 2023?
@ravishingala2616
@ravishingala2616 2 жыл бұрын
Does MD from India counts as an experience during PG in Germany? Does it decreases the years of training?
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 2 жыл бұрын
it counts as an experience, meaning it will help you get a Job easily, but it will not reduce the duration of training
@drselva27
@drselva27 4 жыл бұрын
Yes sir well said... im preparing for the toughest exam... struggling myself... started off with the language classes... half way Want to settle in germany...dream country...won't give up until I become a surgeon in germany... U are my role model sir..thank you so much
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 4 жыл бұрын
keep up the motivation and continue working hard, Germany doesnt send hardworking people emptyhanded
@ahimakalluraya2040
@ahimakalluraya2040 7 ай бұрын
Update bro
@monasayed3553
@monasayed3553 3 жыл бұрын
Sir could you please give us a rough estimate of expenses till obtaining a medical license in Germany?.. Living costs, language studies cost etc..
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
You should expect around 12-15 lakh indian Rupees, without any consulting fees.
@sagarsatish2375
@sagarsatish2375 3 жыл бұрын
@@docdeemishra sir is it total or per year , please reply
@sanjaydharmaik9161
@sanjaydharmaik9161 3 жыл бұрын
Hello sir can you please put some light on the current situation and new changes that were made in German pg system
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
With time the competition is rising that is why the job search is becoming more n more difficult, but principally nothing much has changed in the system
@shaikwahidasulthana2458
@shaikwahidasulthana2458 3 жыл бұрын
Sir, in which countries German pg is valid?
@jayantchandrakar9952
@jayantchandrakar9952 3 жыл бұрын
Sir ,I have turned 32 and have done diploma in paediatric ,is it too late to start for Germany ?
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
its not too late,
@LokeshK27196
@LokeshK27196 4 жыл бұрын
Hi sir! this is Dr.lokesh from chennai..right now i m doing B1.For me the best option is to pursue B2 in germany and take beruflaubnis or take B2 exam in India and come and wait in germany ta take beruflaubnis..?waiting for your reply sir!!!
@drselva27
@drselva27 4 жыл бұрын
Hie sir this s selva... did upto A2 in chennai goethe.. Gonna start with my B1... even I'm in chennai
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 4 жыл бұрын
finish language in India before coming to Germany
@pdrtdr2774
@pdrtdr2774 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any age limits for such residency ?
@saharanravi3685
@saharanravi3685 4 жыл бұрын
Tell me first medical course in Germany is in English or local language
@aniruddhaupadhyaya7872
@aniruddhaupadhyaya7872 3 жыл бұрын
It's in German, which is why international students are supposed to know Germany at the C1 level
@98709
@98709 2 жыл бұрын
Cost for entire any pg course in Germany ?
@highlightworld7106
@highlightworld7106 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a really big fan, your videos have been helpful. I jus have 2 questions 1. Is it compulsory to pass licensing exam/practice in home country before moving to Germany 2. Any books to get/buy online??...recommendations Will be grateful for your reply sir.🙏
@highlightworld7106
@highlightworld7106 4 жыл бұрын
German language books mean to ask
@ahmedzahir9080
@ahmedzahir9080 2 жыл бұрын
Helo,why dont have germany residency of family medecine,like US canada and india is having
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 2 жыл бұрын
there is a residency in Family Medicine aswell, its called Algemein Medizin, duration 5 years
@kansd308
@kansd308 3 жыл бұрын
Hi sir I finished my MS ENT in india How do i start my journey in Germany ? Pls reply sir . Am female 28yrs old .
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
The pathway remains the same as that of mbbs docs, however with your experience..you will be definitely a preferred candidate by the hospitals..
@sharmispd
@sharmispd 4 жыл бұрын
Sir,how long will it take to complete all the procedures and get a pg seat in Germany??
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 4 жыл бұрын
Around 1.5 years to get a Job, then need to pass Approbation exam to start PG
@sharmispd
@sharmispd 4 жыл бұрын
U mean after completing German language in India and coming to germany, thereafter it will take 1.5 yrs to get a job????
@YuserAlhaj
@YuserAlhaj 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, Can you make a comparison between the PG in Germany or PLAB in UK? Which is better and easier, in terms of admission and Visa
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the idea! Will have to find someone who got into training in the UK, just passing PLAB and getting a non-training position in the UK cannot be compared to having a training position in Germany.
@maddoxronin9643
@maddoxronin9643 2 жыл бұрын
instablaster...
@dr.k.manibabu900
@dr.k.manibabu900 3 жыл бұрын
Hi sir am DR.MANI completed my mbbs in chaina , guid me to do pg in germany, what currect process
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
there are many videos explaining the process on this channel, please go through them
@dr.rajshekharkundu6277
@dr.rajshekharkundu6277 3 жыл бұрын
sir I am like 100% confident to work hard for USMLE..but i am too afraid because it takes a lot of money and doesnt ensure any residency...i heard that many people who have really high scores like 260 in usmle steps gets rejected in less competitive branches due to no research..and I am really afraid for that reason..coz if that happens i will be loosing all the money io spend in total and my life will be wasted with a loan debt of like 25-30000$.
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
USMLE and MAtch are certainly very competive. The process in Germany is still not so competitive , however the is long, tedious, confusing and non-standardized.
@VSCGamer678
@VSCGamer678 Жыл бұрын
Sir kya Russian mbbs ko Germany me block kr diya h PG ke liye
@rajbalachoudhary5629
@rajbalachoudhary5629 2 жыл бұрын
Pls...tel..me... German language online classes...kha se kru...A1...becoj muje bi...Germany aana h sir..P.G.krne.....pls...pls......online...courses. Kha se kru....so..it will.be helpful...for getting admission in O.G
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 2 жыл бұрын
we have a Online Language Academy www.dminetzinternational.com/online-german-classes/
@rewatibachute6179
@rewatibachute6179 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sir, Can you please tell us about scope of physiotherapy jobs in Germany. Waiting to hear from you soon.
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
Physiotherapists also have good scope in Germany.
@rewatibachute6179
@rewatibachute6179 3 жыл бұрын
@@docdeemishra thank you so much. If possible could you please do a video on physiotherapy career. Would be extremely grateful.
@fazilahmadfayeq4036
@fazilahmadfayeq4036 4 жыл бұрын
Thank u very much I have Just finished medicine in Turkey i was very confused about doing Specialization , wether in Turkey or in Germany.
@drparthsharda3724
@drparthsharda3724 4 жыл бұрын
Sir Thank you for this video! I completed my MBBS from DY Patil, Navi Mumbai only.. and Im interested in ortho for further studies.I have few questions.. 1)Is it possible to do orthopaedics in Germany and settle in India after that? I mean is the German degree valid in India? 2) How much time it takes to become an orthopedic surgeon in Germany (starting from the preparation till the degree)? 6 years? Thank you sir!
@senthilsingh2733
@senthilsingh2733 4 жыл бұрын
1-no
@vishalchanglani2452
@vishalchanglani2452 4 жыл бұрын
Sir I want to know the procedure for Indian dentist who wants to settle in Germany? So can you please explain?
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 4 жыл бұрын
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@lilcutieeee123.
@lilcutieeee123. 3 жыл бұрын
Sir i am doing my internship in india after fmge exam. I would like to pursue my medical pg and job in germany can you please tell me the total fee structure and how can i start coaching and how can i shift to Germany the visa, university, admissions etc etc. I would like to take orthopaedics as a speciality.. Thankyou in advance sir
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
it looks like you seek the entire consulting package, please checkout our services on the website www.dminetzinternational.com and contact our team in Mumbai 9821166316
@bhivusingh7296
@bhivusingh7296 2 жыл бұрын
Pls.clear my doubts....., I want to talk you personally....how is it possible
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 2 жыл бұрын
you can book a Skype Session for personal guidance, it will cost you a fee www.dminetzinternational.com/skype-appointment/
@riyazahmed5710
@riyazahmed5710 2 жыл бұрын
vpice is very liw, can not hear anything properly.
@RDMSHOW-ob3nd
@RDMSHOW-ob3nd 4 жыл бұрын
Sir pg in dermatology demand me he ya nahi ...."
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 4 жыл бұрын
its in demand, thats why germans will get it first, after that EU..after that experienced non EU..
@user-qp9bn5kg8d
@user-qp9bn5kg8d 3 ай бұрын
Hallo Sir, i did my MBBS in India and Radiology pg in Germany. I want to move back to India now. Is there a way to get my pg from Germany recognized in India.
@Anusha-rq6vc
@Anusha-rq6vc 3 ай бұрын
May i know why u want to move back to India... Isn't it worth pursuing medical career there?
@srkzn5304
@srkzn5304 4 күн бұрын
Why are you moving back if you could please share
@janvi.b906
@janvi.b906 2 жыл бұрын
Hello sir. Can you tell me how to pursue practicing in germany after pg in india?
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 2 жыл бұрын
1st step is to subscribe to this channel, watch all the videos,then checkout the website www.dminetzinternational.com and enroll in the online course for the Roadmap to Germany for Doctors-Advanced
@khadizaahmed1804
@khadizaahmed1804 3 жыл бұрын
Hello sir, If a PG (female) is planning her pregnancy in between het training, would there be any demerits? Its my concern because of our social/culture in asian countries like india, pakistan & bangladesh mostly.
@MuslimWardak
@MuslimWardak 4 жыл бұрын
It was a video made on good issue and was much informative I have a query Plz if u could answer me If the couples both are doctors will it be possible after getting approbation to get residency in same hospital or city, so as they if want to be near and as it is difficult to live apart and be in distance from each other. Waiting for ur reply
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 4 жыл бұрын
its a Problem for Doctor couples, one has to get a Job first, and then slowly another spouse has to find a Job in the same or nearby Hospital.
@MuslimWardak
@MuslimWardak 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks sir for ur answer. And can we work overtime in hospital where we work. And will it be paid or not? If we can than how much /h is paid?
@xceptionalyeasin3179
@xceptionalyeasin3179 4 жыл бұрын
sir physiotherapy job opportunity in germany
@divyenpatel3263
@divyenpatel3263 4 жыл бұрын
you have blue card and what your thoughts about this
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 4 жыл бұрын
yes, I do...i like it
@Akshay-gp6iu
@Akshay-gp6iu 4 жыл бұрын
How to bypass Kenntnisprüfung
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 4 жыл бұрын
if you asked, how to prepare for the exam, we could help
@thepagalgroup420bissi8
@thepagalgroup420bissi8 3 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me please i will do MD in Germany after BHMS in India
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
Not possible, only doctors training in allopathy medicine can treat patients as doctors, there are other clinics but they are mostly like therapists.
@saharanravi3685
@saharanravi3685 4 жыл бұрын
Sir I want to ask you or want to know I am medical student This year I get degree I am studying in Philippines So I want to apply for PG in Germany So can u tell me Medical study in Germany is in English language or local language
@Yeahitsme101
@Yeahitsme101 3 жыл бұрын
Same here but do we need to clear fmg 1st then proceed to pg Or we can start applying for pg once we get graduated?
@Harsh-xy5em
@Harsh-xy5em 3 жыл бұрын
@@Yeahitsme101 German B2 level is compulsory and u have to clear fmg you can watch menspro video.
@user-fd5mm8xk7k
@user-fd5mm8xk7k 7 ай бұрын
Hi sir pg is English language or german
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 7 ай бұрын
German
@hetulparikh8529
@hetulparikh8529 8 ай бұрын
Voice is very poor low.....
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 8 ай бұрын
i try to improve with the course of time
@arunapandey2472
@arunapandey2472 3 жыл бұрын
Y germany for pg y not some other country in Europe?
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
there are 27 countries in EU --i think, one can chose as per their wish, but Germany is most advanced, financially strong country which is taking foriegn doctors, thats why
@ameynarkar6346
@ameynarkar6346 2 жыл бұрын
How much v can save per month
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 2 жыл бұрын
depends upon you, spend less, save more, invest even more ! you will be fine
@ameynarkar6346
@ameynarkar6346 2 жыл бұрын
@@docdeemishra Thanks for reply, just one more question I am 30 years old, Single, done MBBS and clinical cardiology in Russia,I have MCI reg. planning to come not yet started for language course , now doing research regarding PG in Germany, I don't have strong financial support, Is it manageable taking Bank loan (Term loan) come and get job (FSP and KP clear) pay my loan and leave in Germany, Will be very thankful if u will reply from your busy schedule 🙏
@ameynarkar6346
@ameynarkar6346 2 жыл бұрын
Thanku for very informative Videos 👋
@Drvrushalimalegaonkar1865
@Drvrushalimalegaonkar1865 3 жыл бұрын
I have completed my post graduation in Anaesthesiology year. Can I get a job in Germany
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
it is comparatively less difficult for trained anesthetists to get a JOb in Germany, however all the paperwork, Exams etc have to be done to recieve medical license. only then an Employer would be interested in your application.
@Drvrushalimalegaonkar1865
@Drvrushalimalegaonkar1865 3 жыл бұрын
@@docdeemishra thank you sir
@ananyatripathi4627
@ananyatripathi4627 2 жыл бұрын
Is The pg degree applicable in india
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 2 жыл бұрын
there is no clear information from the indian side
@bhivusingh7296
@bhivusingh7296 2 жыл бұрын
How to contact you sir....
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 2 жыл бұрын
through our company website www.dminetzinternational.com
@mustakeempatel3502
@mustakeempatel3502 4 жыл бұрын
Anything about after BDS.sir???
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 4 жыл бұрын
the process is the same
@priyabharathithasan9256
@priyabharathithasan9256 3 жыл бұрын
Duration of different fields of medical pg.kindly inform
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
do you want to know about all fields or just few that you would be interested in ? Some fields are 5 years, some are 6 years.
@priyabharathithasan9256
@priyabharathithasan9256 3 жыл бұрын
@@docdeemishra thank you
@otengdarkwa3955
@otengdarkwa3955 3 жыл бұрын
Please what is the take home salary for junior doctor?
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra 3 жыл бұрын
depends upon which year and Family status, for 1st Year around 35K + Extraduties (around 20-30%)
@chandhanagowda616
@chandhanagowda616 Жыл бұрын
Sir can I get your insta Id
@docdeemishra
@docdeemishra Жыл бұрын
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