More white people listen to drill than black yet you refused to invite white people to the show?

@@rampz975 lol you’re dumb bro why does that matter... it’s music? Not about people’s race + most UK drill rappers are black anyway so???

Zone 2 are the best drill group hands down. Most members can spit and they probably got 2 out of the top 5 drill MCs in kwengface and PS (even Karma) 🤷🏽‍♂️

@@jRossVG to be fair it’s entirely white with f you’re approaching it from who’s picked as the fans that’s a factor but who acc cares

Man said 98’s?? Who are 98’s?

Watch, she chooses to go to the other side when she realises where eveyone else went, just to be contrary whether she believes it or not.

Attention seeking 👀

at least she knows that the 98s ain’t the best drill group in drill right now 🤣

She was jarring

@@dontworry1535 🧢🧢🧢

Section boyz too. And surprisingly 1011 should be more credited more than headie because 1011 gave everyone the harsh sound and then unknown T took it mainstream

@@A1un9ine 1011 almost killed it off 😂😂

@@user-lx6fj3kf3j alright then Jayden everyone is untitled to their opinions ahlie? So have yours and I’ll have mine alright

@@A1un9ine don’t cry lad

@@user-lx6fj3kf3j looool hear my man 🤣🤣🤣 dickhead blud

3 years ago maybe youd be right but this alternative scene is more active influencing the wider culture. e.g. corteiz is a more prestigious brand than trapstar and that kinda coincides with the rise of alt rap. uk is bored of the usual dry philistine street culture. we want vibrance, innovation, sophistication and flourishing. not the same boring standard beat, standard drip and standard visuals. if i want to see that i can go westfield and feel like im losing my soul. and theres plenty of the alternative. more than plenty if u know where to look

half the fkn song is the man saying shh

@@desapoleCorteiz is nowhere near as prestigious as Trapstar. Maybe somewhere down the line it can compete, but it currently has no identifiable prestige at all. Drill beats definitely aren't the same either, producers have all leveled up in recent times where the landscape of drill has become vast with all types of instruments. The umbrella of "alt rap" is a bit too wide to paint with the same brush because there's a lot of garbage I've heard that fits in that section 😂 but the best are getting heard at least, but they aren't actually influencing much since they're all much smaller than Drillers who ironically have the best mass appeal in the country right now.

​@@TheCNSR when i say prestigious, i mean that the brand has this image of cultural acuity that reflects on the person wearing it, a quality that trapstar might have boasted in its west london heyday but has since lost touch with. as for the underground's lack of influence, i just don't see it that way. it hasn't struck a chord with the masses yet but artistic innovation within that scene moves at a million miles a minute because it's written into its DNA. this has absolutely begun to leave a mark on the mainstream which seems to look to the underground for inspiration these days, rather than vice versa. central cee is arguably the uk's most prolific hitmaker and he's just hopped on a pinkpantheress sample. i think in the future we'll look back on this and realise the underground pioneers (all of it, rappers, designers, videographers, photographers etc) were the unsung cultural heroes of this period. think of it how, in retrospect, the consensus is that the french new wave was the truest spirit of 60s cinema, and hollywood second. regardless of how much more hollywood pumped out and cashed in.

@@TheCNSR youve fully gone from chicken to drill connoisseur. rate how you detail everything

word mans chattin bubbles

Loski 016/17 days was too cold

idk for that guy

Yeah these man are waffling

@@d_12_12 true dat

Nah, she had a diff pov

@@X.R.808 ngl she was just yapping nonsense

That’s what he claps innit

🤣🤣

Nobody is saying harlem Spartans didn't have an impact, its just when you really think about it OFB has had a bigger impact. I thought Harlem Spartans had a bigger impact as well but when u think about it OFB has been around for ages and there's so many levels to them (both age wise and variety). If it wasn't for the unfortunate deaths and jail times, then harlem would definitely be bigger in impact, but the way it is now OFB takes it

@@_jumbo9961 trust Harlem set up the game but natural progression is what it is Harlem weren’t around to influence what ofb did, but trust our generation will be here to give Harlem the recognition they deserve. It’s just early days In uk drill so people picking sides

@@_jumbo9961 Harlem most influential group we’ve ever had. Every single person in drill is influenced by them facts

Wallah Harlem really out south on the map

Harlem Spartans had a bigger impact, even worldwide, OneFour said that they were influenced by Harlem Spartans, and everyone was talented, Mizzy, Blanco, Bis, SA, Loski, OnDrills, TG Millian, everyone was talented.

yah i cant lie active gxng is movin mad like bruh listen to their plugged in ong

You can tell Mali from a mali 😂😂😂

It’s the slang I use in my sides

😂😂😂😭she was waffling tho mothers

@@milli5488 how though? They're songs get taken down even if they censor it

@@SIRAJPRODUCTIONS wtf you on about I said she was waffling in this video

oi blud 3 up sj shat ap

Facts

I think even if numbers are involved LD is the most impactful because if he didn’t exist drill wouldn’t

@@Mackan-gc4or and that’s where your wrong sticks was the first to do UK drill

So fucking stupid, shouting to make a point stronger when it's shit, like 67 more so Spartans had less of and impact than OFB, lol ofb are nothing new except Headie making the mainstream, just singers

@@CP-dr7qy I hear you, but imo LD elevated it massively

She comes off hella confused

I think she held down her own opinion rather than for girls. She held her own yeah. It was tough for her to discuss with the guys because her opinions were wild to them. The guys reacted the same to eachother when disagreeing. It gets like that doesn't need to be a gender thing

She’s mali of course she held it down

🤦🏽 some of you women just want credit for anything it can be tough wtf

@@qazari she had a different point of view

its him aahahahahahaahahahah

@@princejoshua5819 wait no way?!?! 😂 🙆🏾‍♂️ fr??

😂😂😂😂😂 mad jokes I clocked him

loool even took time to think abt it before she said it, had no clue lol

Cause she’s Somali and they got loads of malis in their group🤣🤣

I’m surprised she didn’t say MaliStrip

@@heyah1447 🤣🤣

Like with american hip hop for example, just because Rakim did it before 2Pac or Jay Z doesnt mean he has a bigger impact on the genre over those two, i personally think Headie pushed the genre way more than LD

🤣🤣😂😭😭

he is so cold🥶

ahlie

Water drill

They never said nothing about Russ, what are you on about...

@@fldmedia ur not getting what I’m saying,I think Russ made drill more fun and easy to digest that’s what I mean lol

@@Kkayy020 yh i get you but genres evolve and that goes for subgenres aswell, drill doesnt always have to be about splashing ops, drill is literally a beat

Also 67

You took my words out of my mouth that I’ve been saying for years

Facts

I strongly disagree, you actually have to analyse factors and components about drill that come from grime. The beat tempo, for starters is a LOT faster than US drill (140BPM which is the same in grime) - US drill and the likes of what Chief Keef were doing sounded a lot more similar to trap beats from the South. Secondly, the 808 slides are a UK innovation at least sonically speaking. Listen to beats like Pied Piper and you would see what I'm talking about. Those were techniques used by grime producers. Third, you need to look at the flow that the rappers used. It's very similar, at least syllable wise and cadence wise to grime music. WIZEtheproducer gets old famous grime clashes and remixes them with Drill beats and he's been a grime producer as well for many years. Yes, US Drill definitely has made an impact on UK drill music, the pianos most notably, as you can hear it from 67's most successful song, Let's Lurk, as a good example, but overall, I would say that UK drill is much more closely related to grime. It also has some elements of influence from road rap too.

@@gisar.6539 so you're saying uk drill is the evolution of grime?

@@gisar.6539 your whole point is literally based on how grime had an influence on drill which I've said but it isn't the evolution because think about which genre sounded more like drill? Road rap or grime, and if you're saying that grime is the main evolution of drill and not road rap nor us drill then that doesn't make any sense, because when 150 and 67 you could tell that they got their influence from us drill as they even said that they listened to chief keef before they were rapping meaning that us drill is the main evolution of UK drill as if there was no us drill uk drill wouldn't be a thing and we would just have road rap and grime

Yeah fr

Urban gogglebox cause there wasn’t just Black people on it

@@TheDestineyy I said what I said. We all know black people make the best content

@@MsDarkie93 cool. I know what you mean but just saying

Coulda I dont know...... stopped selling drugs

Headie’s impact can be argued as being bigger though given he has bigger accomplishments as a drill artists. That foundation is cool but Headie would be like MJ and is making it break through mainstream more consistently.

@@pandabear1576 true but how would any of this happen without Ld, when headie first started rapping it weren't even drill it was more of road rap and then he changed himself into drill after 67's and 150's impact , which then proves that the impact that Ld had on drill was more than headie as Ld was the reason that headie changed yo drill because of his impact

@@mxofficial4468 nah that just makes him a forefather of drill. That 67 impact on drill lasted for about a year and a half. Bringing in new acts and shit but they were quickly outshined. Headie one in particular has outshined LD as a drill raper so much so that the biggest rapper on earth gave him the stamp and feature. That sparks the first drill project to go number 1. That has had an impact that has already opened the doors for drill to chart more consistently in the top 5 let alone at all. He is also the face of the biggest drill group that also has a major impact. LD cannot say the same because he was still deep in the drug game and got locked.

@@pandabear1576 LD was in jail

Nah if we’re talking about proper drill drill she’s acc right it’s active gang even though I acc vibe with ofb’s ting more if ygm

Not currently. 2016/2017 yeah but not right now

@@_jumbo9961 Yh!

@@_jumbo9961 word

@@lostplanets939 yhyh I rate it

theyre mad icl but a bit overrated and 2smokeyys stopped doing music now so they wont nearly be as good as they was

67 has been rapping since 08 do your research bigman,

Sainte

Especially when doing 2019 drill music was getting heavily censored And the mad thing is, Zone 2 drop No censor and Dead 2 days and 6 days apart from each respectively as way to capitalise of the hype and shock value

@@conceptsound5 exactly

The word is shit genre

stg

Not in terms of impact

@@pandabear1576 Harlem created the flow used by almost every drill rapper, they created half of the drill dictionary and you're saying not in terms of impact 🤣🤣. Jokeman

@@zain688 created the drill dictionary that almost all young black people that uses slang in the Uk also used at the same time in normal conversation lol? Foh. Their impact still isn’t bigger than OFBs. They have done more to grow the genre as a collective with their 9 major members compared to Loski, Miz, and Blanco. Blame them for going to prison so much for that.

Trust.

Nahhh 98s are the best imo

Yep and grime is an original genre made in the U.K. not copied from yanks lol

Ooo like this take