Do Atheists Think That Jesus Was Just A Myth? | The Atheist Experience: Throwback

No video

Do Atheists Think That Jesus Was Just A Myth? | The Atheist Experience: Throwback

Рет қаралды 45,229

Ай бұрын

Call the show on Sundays 4:30pm-6:00pm CT: 1-512-686-0279 or use your computer to save on long-distance charges: tiny.cc/callthe...
► LinkTree: linktr.ee/athe...
► Don't like commercials? Become a patron for ad-free content & more: / theatheistexperience
► Find all of our links here: linktr.ee/athe...
► Podcast versions of the show may be found at:
www.spreaker.c...
► Atheist Experience merch can be found at: https:tiny.cc/merchaca
► Become a KZfaq member: / @theatheistexperience
► Join our discord:
tiny.cc/acddiscord
Note: We request pronouns as part of the call screening process on our shows, and we display the pronouns our callers provide. If you see a caller with no pronouns indicated, this is because they chose not to provide us with any, and we respect that decision.
-------
WHAT IS THE ATHEIST EXPERIENCE?
The Atheist Experience is a weekly call-in television show in Austin, Texas geared at a non-atheist audience. The Atheist Experience is produced by the Atheist Community of Austin.
The Atheist Community of Austin is a 501(c)(3) educational non-profit organization based in Austin, Texas. The Atheist Community of Austin is dedicated to promoting atheism, critical thinking, secular humanism, and the separation of religion and government.
We define atheism as the lack of belief in gods. This definition also encompasses what most people call agnosticism.
VISIT THE ACA'S OFFICIAL WEB SITES
www.atheist-com... (The Atheist Community of Austin)
NOTES
TheAtheistExperience is the official channel of The Atheist Experience. "The Atheist Experience" is a trademark of the ACA.
The views and opinions expressed by hosts, guests, or callers are their own and not necessarily representative of the Atheist Community of Austin.
Opening Theme:
Shelley Segal "Saved" www.shelleysega...
Limited use license by Shelley Segal
Copyright © 2011 Shelley Segal
Copyright © 2024 Atheist Community of Austin. All rights reserved.

Пікірлер: 1 300

@ARoll925 Ай бұрын

After listening to this call, the most offensive thing for me is that Eddie is calling himself rational, he very clearly is not

@DJMarcO138 Ай бұрын

You can practically hear him stomping his widdle feet and pouting xD

@GoodBrotherGrimm Ай бұрын

That and using a poor woman's suicide to push his nonsense.

@Acteaon Ай бұрын

My biggest headache 🤕 was that too!

@FakingANerve Ай бұрын

@@GoodBrotherGrimm Yeah, that was pretty disgusting. Sorry you lost your friend, bud, but don't try to cash that in to "explain" your "rational" positions. Jesus fucking Christ...

@quotedotes Ай бұрын

You don't know the cooooooonteeeeeeeeeeext! I feel it's true therefore it is! I'm a skeptical person that believes things without evidence!

@calebgray1733 Ай бұрын

When I was in the military, I had been up for 3 days straight with minimal food and water. I remember having a full on conversation with my grandfather during that time. My grandfather died when I was 12 and he wouldn't have been in the field with me anyways if he was still alive. The human mind under great stress is very fragile. Having memories of talking to my grandfather doesn't prove ghosts and it definitely doesn't prove a god.

@ryvercardn3387 Ай бұрын

I was at the tail-end of a 72 hour shift, and my partner and I were arguing about seeing a yeti (it was a tree), and my "logical reasoning" at the time for why it couldn't be a yeti was because "they're not indigenous to this area!!" Sleep deprivation does some monumental weird things to our thought processes.

@kasocool2812 Ай бұрын

@@ryvercardn3387"clearly this is Bigfoot territory"

@amandarhodes4072 29 күн бұрын

Add to this that in ancient times people regularly use to burn hemp wood in fires as it one of the few bushes that grew in such a harsh climate. One of the side effects of the smoke produced by burning the roots of Hemp is it's hallucinogenic. So when mosses came upon a burning bush in the desert and heard voices talk to him of cause he would think it was god.

@paulmcdonald9257 22 күн бұрын

I have had a similar experience. Lack of sleep and high stress can cause your synapses to misfire. I had a conversation with my Dad in which we discussed the manner of his Death. I remember every word of it but am in no doubt that it never actually happened.

@kasocool2812 22 күн бұрын

@@paulmcdonald9257 during exams in highschool. Stress and anxiety and a bout of insomnia. Caused me to lose it a bit and I was 100% convinced that if the large moth on the outside of my window got to me I would die.

@Deconstruction_Zone Ай бұрын

The desperation of these callers to justify their fictional deity is embarrassing.

@normkeller2405 Ай бұрын

I've often thought that more people are concerned about Jose, than about Jesus. At the start of every game, the whole crowd rises to their feet, and asks, "Jose can you see?". That's proof that Jose is real.

@Stevo_Drums Ай бұрын

…and exhausting

@TheZombieSaints Ай бұрын

Olympic grade mental-gymnastics

@AntitheistHuman Ай бұрын

I truly struggle to understand how are they considered to be "adults"

@Miraak1868 Ай бұрын

And I would add, "their total fanatical lunacy"

@adrianvisentin534 Ай бұрын

It's literally shocking how gullible and illogical people are

@warmstrong5612 Ай бұрын

Not really. Humanity can be pretty stupid.

@Ninthofnine1969 23 күн бұрын

Ummmm have anyone noticed it's mostly(only) Americans who are this gullible... So indoctrinated into belief from authority it's scary.

@daydays12 19 күн бұрын

It is really appalling I agree.

@TO-xn3gu 2 күн бұрын

@warmstrong5612 try living in the south...most ppl here are hard-core into theism

@tg8603 Ай бұрын

The caller is way too emotionally invested in his conclusion and is fighting tooth and nail to defend his irrational thinking.

@daydays12 19 күн бұрын

There are millions of people like him unfortunately.

@scipioafricanus5871 3 күн бұрын

@@daydays12 yes, they are called real people, you should meet them sometime.

@hex6ng Ай бұрын

It is difficult trying to explain scientific concepts to a person who has been conditioned to reject science.

@AcidGubba Ай бұрын

But he is open minded and thinks he thinks rationally.

@jwsanders1214 Ай бұрын

I love science , bring it on !

@zombine555 Ай бұрын

@@jwsanders1214alright. Explain the scientific theory of evolution, a couplw of the mechanism therein, and the lines of evidence we have to confirm the theory as the single best supported idea in science.

@PrivateSi Ай бұрын

Science was supposed to be conditioned to reject Science but it got liberally spoilt rotten and turned to stupidly inclusive mush and vanity science hyper-wastage!

@opinion3742 28 күн бұрын

One can treat science like some infallible god too. Most of know shit about really, we rely on what others tell us. And most of us don't have an overall very good understanding of what science really is, what it can and what it can't tell us about life.

@WonkyDonkey3000 Ай бұрын

"He didn't say 'Jesus'. He said, 'Hey, Zeus!' My name is Zeus."

@DragonHeart-cm1tx Ай бұрын

"As in father of Apollo! Mount Olympus! Don't f**k with me or I'll shove a lightning bolt up your a**! ZEUS! You got a problem with that!?"

@SundaeRoast Ай бұрын

@@DragonHeart-cm1tx No, as in 'Die Hard with a Vengeance' :)

@garybaltiejus7248 Ай бұрын

Like the die hard reference

@benjaminmadrigalperez9010 Ай бұрын

That actually happened on greece with. Pan

@jwsanders1214 Ай бұрын

why do the Heathen Rage ?

@Ironraven001 Ай бұрын

Eddie doesn’t need god, he needs therapy. Seeing a friend kill themselves would totally cause trauma. I hope he got the medical help he needs.

@EleanorofAquitaine42 Ай бұрын

Thank you! Poor Eddie sounds like he’s trying to make meaning out of a terrifying and traumatic event in his life. PTSD can cause your mind to do crazy things. Also, has anyone checked on the wiring, rodent situation and carbon monoxide emissions of the place he was living?

@oggyoggy1299 Ай бұрын

He saw it?

@daydays12 19 күн бұрын

I agree. He is disturbed and confused.

@danielrussell9416 Ай бұрын

If Jesus existed, no one who met him wrote about him and anyone who wrote about him never met him.

@gordonlynn8300 Ай бұрын

And he didn't write anything , probably because he was illiterate like almost everyone else then .

@Specialeffecks Ай бұрын

Add "and they all lived in a primitive and superstitious culture at a time with no easy fact-checking." (If fact-checking would even occur to those motivated to get converts).

@slackerman9758 Ай бұрын

And Nazareth wasn’t occupied when he was to have been born.

@kennethgee2004 Ай бұрын

false. What do you think the gospel are? When do you think that they were written?

@jwsanders1214 Ай бұрын

What a foolish thing to say

@Alltime2050 Ай бұрын

Even if Paul met the brother it doesn't do anything to prove that the magical Jesus myth is true.

@josephbelisle5792 Ай бұрын

Whose brother. Billions of Christians believe Jesus was an only child and Mary is still a virgin. The varieties of the myths go on and on. One group claiming in one version is hardly truth. Giving it any credence is more than it deserves.

@davidszeremi1786 Ай бұрын

Jesus can be a first century magician and it proves nothing of his divinity.... Assuming he isn't a collection of other people

@davidszeremi1786 Ай бұрын

@@josephbelisle5792he had family, he father might have had other wives or she had more children. Perpetual virginity is a religious doctrine but it might not be accurate. I heard of "The church of James the Just brother of Jesus" and that Paul fought with his movement and made sure it failed.

@Alltime2050 Ай бұрын

@@davidszeremi1786 Exactly.

@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 Ай бұрын

@@josephbelisle5792 Jesus had a brother. Mary was a virgin, she was just terrible at it.

@Fufiloofa Ай бұрын

"These ppl who question the validity of legends and hearsay are unreasonable, but me who believes in "ghosts" without any actual theory for why and how is totally reasonable" Eddy 2017-1-22

@SundaeRoast Ай бұрын

"Immoral is literally the same thing as unlawful. You should know this already, why are you trying so hard to embarrass yourself?" Oh the irony of being called ignorant by someone who thinks that 'immoral' and 'illegal' are the same thing 🤣

@shrews12001 Ай бұрын

Unlawful is cheating on your taxes Immoral is cheating at tic-tac-toe

@jamesparson Ай бұрын

Mayonnaise on a hotdog is immoral.

@simonkoster Ай бұрын

I recently came across the term "Argnorant" as portmanteau of Arrogant and Ignorant. I may start using it.

@thedave1771 Ай бұрын

“We could mention her name around other lightbulbs” 😅😅😅 I love it.

@robertschriek1353 Ай бұрын

It really is amazing how far the theists have been forced to retreat in their desperation to justify their delusions

@chetsavage2536 Ай бұрын

Not far enough, sadly.

@thetherapist53 Ай бұрын

"I'm a rational person..." ad nauseam. Methinks the gullible doth protest too much.

@IRGeamer Ай бұрын

"It depends...", "It depends...", "It depends..." Yes Eddy, we get it. It depends on how wilfully ignorant of logical reasoning and verifiable reality you are.

@josephbelisle5792 Ай бұрын

You hear this by people who really are not what they claim to be. 'To tell you the truth'. 'Let me be honest with you'. Makes you doubt they are truthful and honest.

@Ironraven001 Ай бұрын

I'm a rational person... who doesn't understand what RATIONAL means. Sheesh.

@ericgraham3344 Ай бұрын

Classic “God of the GAPS”.

@Ironraven001 Ай бұрын

Sooooooo many gaps. I feel bad for Eddie though. Seeing someone kill themselves in front of me would mess me up too. 😢

@ericgraham3344 Ай бұрын

@@Ironraven001 Don’t Feel Sorry for him

@SecondaryHomunculus Ай бұрын

Finding a rabbi by that name in the Middle East 2000 years ago would be like finding a dude named Steve Johnson in the US today. Who gives a shit? Are you gonna worship Steve if I write a shitty fanfic about him?

@thomaswigfield7623 Ай бұрын

Possibly, depends how convincing it is. (Only kidding, no).

@phillysupra Ай бұрын

Steve Johnson of Springfield. (there's a Springfield in every state) 🤣

@taylorlibby7642 Ай бұрын

Depends. What cool stuff does Steve do in your shitty fanfic? If he can change water into IPA for my cousins wedding we might have something to build on.😂🤣

@delbomb3131 Ай бұрын

I know literally 3 steve johnson's and i live in a city of 4k people in Wisconsin lol

@queuecee Ай бұрын

@@delbomb3131 Stoughton?

@michaelbell3181 Ай бұрын

Most atheists don't seem to care if there's a historical Jesus or not for it doesn't affect a god aspect. As for me, there's not enough data to actually prove a historical Jesus.

@vitast2000 Ай бұрын

Much less the dude walked on water, and was able to heal blindness with magic spit.

@SundaeRoast Ай бұрын

@@vitast2000 Oh no, don't tell me he didn't turn water into wine either! I was hoping to hire him for my wedding.

@jwsanders1214 Ай бұрын

So what do you have , a historical bang ? I choose Jesus

@Gerryjournal Ай бұрын

@@jwsanders1214c'mon, it's the 21st century

@michaelbell3181 Ай бұрын

@@jwsanders1214 Like choosing the Easter Bunny, I get it. I was once a devout Christian. I studied in an attempt to become clergy in 2 of the 44,000 (and why does that number never shock anyone) denominations of Christianity. I not only read it but studied it! Let me be explicitly clear, both times my brain checked in before Seminary!

@anthonycraig274 Ай бұрын

Until 3 weeks ago, I thought he was a historical figure until I was looking for evidence that Jesus was woke, only to find there isn’t any valid evidence that Jesus existed. Now, I don’t believe a historical Jesus was a real person.

@geoffallshorn5167 Ай бұрын

I came to that conclusion after reading about the Raglan/Rank mythotype that implicitly includes Hercules, Moses, Jesus, Robin Hood, King Arthur, Luke Skywalker and Harry Potter.

@einienj3281 Ай бұрын

Why were you looking for evidence of Jesus being woke?

@classybree2241 Ай бұрын

He was not a real person he was created to deceive people

@anthonycraig274 Ай бұрын

@@einienj3281 You read that the world’s most famous historical person ever may have never existed due to the sheer lack of evidence and your take is “why are you looking for evidence Jesus was woke” absolutely baffles me.

@anthonycraig274 Ай бұрын

@@geoffallshorn5167 I first found David Fitzgerald on this channel and read his book *Nailed*. Although it was the smoking gun, it wasn't the evidence that convinced me. I then stumbled onto Richard Carrier's peer reviewed work, *On the Historicity of Jesus* which gave a full synopsis on how Jesus was invented, why he was invented, the mathematical probability and possibility, and went through all the so-called evidence of Jesus and against, great work.

@markireland1162 Ай бұрын

one should not be so open minded that ones brains fall out......

@snowflakemelter1172 Ай бұрын

Its hard to imagine a God that would engineer the most important event in human history but never bother to engineer anyone to record it, human nature was well established at that point so he must have known no one with a rational mind that he gave them would beleive this.

@holgerlubotzki3469 Ай бұрын

Yeah... the tribal war g0d was not only an evil immoral ratbag, he was totally incompetent despite being all knowing and all powerful.

@TrumanSparx Ай бұрын

I've heard so many of these campfire stories over the years. Some people want to swallow the supernatural because reality is not enough for them.

@einienj3281 Ай бұрын

Eddy seems like a guy who would see that as a connection to justify thinking a campfire is causing the feeling of being creeped out.

@Specialeffecks Ай бұрын

Because I had an experience I can't explain, I will vote for legislation to force others to: Speak in Togues, Genuflect, Wear Beanie Caps without the Propeller, Align Chakras, Bow to the East 7 X Per Day, Hold E-Meter Cans, Wear Magic Underwear, etc...

@holgerlubotzki3469 Ай бұрын

don't forget the prohibitive stuff. no bacon, no birth control etc.

@Specialeffecks Ай бұрын

@holgerlubotzki3469 No rights for others for things I don't like and that I believe others should not have the right that also don't affect my life in any way (other than to thwart my desire to impose my will upon others, that I have personally determined also aligns exactly with my god's will).

@benjamindover5676 29 күн бұрын

searched "CNN reporter attacked by ghost" And the lead story was. "Reporter unfazed by haunted house"

@solly119119 Ай бұрын

This caller is why I no longer have any patience for theist's "personal experience". It literally is just a "because I say so" argument.

@timg7627 Ай бұрын

I agree. They’re all the same. “Trust me bro, stuff happened to me” -every theist from every religion 🙄🤦

@joecoolioness6399 Ай бұрын

I ask them if they believe that prayer works, and most say yes. So I say then pray that your god give me my personal experience so I can join them in heaven when I die. So far, it has not happened.

@Mkeusquealbby Ай бұрын

I'd say Jesus as described in the bible is mythical, whether an actual man existed in the middle eastern desert 2000 years ago or not.

@shrews12001 Ай бұрын

Given how removed from the time the actual writing was I would at best accept that the character of Jesus was based on an amalgam of people that were told to have existed. The supernatural being pure fantasy.

@jwsanders1214 Ай бұрын

goo to you by way of the zoo

@tekbarrier Ай бұрын

@@jwsanders1214 i'm sorry you don't understand science

@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 Ай бұрын

Jesus seems to be a composite character. In a similar way that King Arthur or Ois’in is. Different stories can get attached to pre-existing characters that the audience is familiar with. A great example of the classical story of Perseus and the Minotaur which was reborn in the renaissance and hit England … but nobody there knew who Perseus was or what a Minotaur looked like. So, Perseus became Saint George and the Minotaur became a dragon. Pre-existing characters that an audience can relate to attract popular stories.

@user-pw6gm1tu6q Ай бұрын

@@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 yes its all just based on archetypes,there is only so many archetypes to include and write a story about,the hero,the underdog,the lover etc etc thats why most poems books tv programmes and movies all have a similar recognisable structure but just with different characters and dialogue,its the reason when u start watching a film u can kind of predict the path its gonna take and ultimately the ending with obviously a few exceptions with good twists etc and its the ones that manage to be a bit different that seem to do well cos they seem abit original,i think game of thrones did well originally because although many archetypal storylines and characters existed but the so called hero types were killed off shockingly early at times which kind of bucked the trend of the likes of lord of the rings which although there seemed to be alot of jeapardy and close calls none of the 15 or so good guys actually died by the end of the films and it followed the good v evil ,light v darkness archetype from start to finish

@RudeCalling Ай бұрын

"When I was sitting on your side of the table" by this statement alone he has admitted as an atheist he would have been skeptical of unexplained things and now that he is a theist he goes with whatever feels or sounds best.. this is a direct example that believing in religion makes you illogical and guilable

@leongkhengneoh6581 Ай бұрын

abraham lincoln was a vampire hunter. There is a movie on it so it must be true

@bestbehave Ай бұрын

Well I’ve certainly got no other explanation

@AXKfUN9m Ай бұрын

I thought he was the King of Mars?

@stephenolan5539 Ай бұрын

@@AXKfUN9m The candy company?

@AXKfUN9m Ай бұрын

@@stephenolan5539 No, the red planet.

@Specialeffecks Ай бұрын

My Niece did the same thing when her father (my brother) died. She went up to Alaska and saw an eagle. For the next couple of years, she kept on noticing 'eagles', whether it was on a billboard, in a song, on a can of Tecate, she started seeing many eagles and somehow associated it with her dad. I asked if there was anything significant that was shared between them about eagles before his death, and she said no. She reported that it stopped after a couple of years.

@einienj3281 Ай бұрын

Traumatic experiences can cause the mind to make up weird connections. When my husband died, I had all sorts of meltdowns of ration. Like: "if I only had done this or that, then this would not have happened"..like I could somehow erase time and everything would be ok. The outcome would not change, bc I can't go back in time, obviously. Grief is such a powerful shock to the system, that you literally try to grasp straws to stay afloat..

@GoriusMaximus Ай бұрын

@@Specialeffecks when I started working for the ambulance service I started noticing ambulances everywhere.

@kimberlybaldridge5767 9 күн бұрын

My beloved kitty passed away a week ago and I kept seeing his face in the shadows and him walking around out of the corner of my eye. It was my brain starting to adjust to him being gone until I could accept it + then "seeing him" stopped. (Love you, Hoover!)

@stevecole3917 Ай бұрын

I think it's likely that a charismatic preacher fell afoul of the government and was crucified during that time. Probably several.

@BlackDeath920 Ай бұрын

Definitely several

@ReasonBeing25 Ай бұрын

Eddie... Eddie...Eddie, cmon now

@phillysupra Ай бұрын

The dude thought a halogen bulb blowing out was god.... He's mentally not capable. Period.

@Jebus_Anti-theist Ай бұрын

Eddie's in the space time continuum.

@AussieNaturalist Ай бұрын

"Im a rational person, I had experiences that I cant explain = theism" - That comment right there IS in fact irrational.

@einienj3281 Ай бұрын

Exactly. There's that "I was an atheist" again..no. He had a traumatic experience then connected a random lightbulb exploding to there being a god. Then he claims to be a rational person.....

@aemiliadelroba4022 Ай бұрын

It simply means the person does not know what happened . There are lots of things we don’t know. That is not irrational!😮

@einienj3281 Ай бұрын

@@aemiliadelroba4022 It's his reasoning that makes him irrational. 1. Traumatic experience. 2. Talking about this experience. 3. Lightbulb breaks. 4. Supernatural. 5. God exists because 2, 3 and 4.

@AussieNaturalist Ай бұрын

@@aemiliadelroba4022 You totally missed the problem, which is that he he said that he had experiences that he coulnt explain which led him to believe that there must be a "God", which, as I pointed out, IS irrational. The ONLY rational thing to say when you DONT KNOW what happened, is, I dont know, not.... It must have been a "God".

@SundaeRoast Ай бұрын

Well done to user Sir Barry V8 for spotting Floridunce's howler in saying that Jesus was buried, when in fact he was just placed in a tomb! How embarrassing for Flo to not know such a basic 'fact' about his own saviour. He should read his Bible more 🤣

@Fufiloofa Ай бұрын

every single thing Paul ever wrote about Jesus was at best hearsay, at best, think about that

@kennethgee2004 Ай бұрын

false. Paul spoke the gospel of Christ and went to Jerusalem to confirm with the other apostles that he was preaching the same thing. it was the other apostles that declared Paul an apostle of Jesus. What do you think historical means?

@jwsanders1214 Ай бұрын

You don't have a clue

@kennethgee2004 Ай бұрын

@@jwsanders1214 ok that might be true, but it is not an argument. A might is still an unknown. How about you add some reason and evidence to formulate a full argument.

@jwsanders1214 Ай бұрын

@@kennethgee2004 Sorry my friend you are 100 percent correct I humbly ask you let me out of this , you are right , I am wrong I miss read what you said

@jwsanders1214 Ай бұрын

@@kennethgee2004 Keep Being Salt and Light we all need to hear it

@MrMattSax Ай бұрын

Ghosts. Therefore Jesus did magic. Okaaaaaaaay

@magoo1950 Ай бұрын

That's the issue with so many theist arguments. Let's say he is right and the ghost of a person who committed suicide was causing these supernatural events. How does that therefore prove Jesus? Maybe Zeus is the cause. Maybe Allah. Maybe an unknown force that has never revealed themselves in human history.

@apple1662 Ай бұрын

I have watched this many, many times...and Eddy just doesn't get that a) he makes zero effort to try to find out WHY things happen, b) blindly accepts that things happen & c) he should be heavily fined for daring to call himself RATIONAL!

@GoriusMaximus Ай бұрын

If the woman died doesn’t Christian doctrine say that she either went to heaven or hell? Wouldn’t his belief that she is a ghost haunting him prove that something other than Christianity is in play?

@davidszeremi1786 Ай бұрын

They could reason that a ghost hasn't gone to their reward? Ghost games and movies tend to embrace the idea they will move on the light or darkness. Frankly I find the zombie apocalypse in the new testament more funny.

@GoriusMaximus Ай бұрын

@@davidszeremi1786 According to the bible there is an unseen spirit realm but it’s populated by angels and fallen angels (demons). I’ve never seen a passage that implies there are the ghosts of humans wandering the earth to blow up light bulbs or knock down paintings.

@Soylent1981 Ай бұрын

I am always cautious about skeptics who quickly abandon their skepticism because they lack the creativity to think about other possibilities. It makes skepticism seem like a feeble position waiting for an unexplained experience rather than a position that aims to support things we think we know.

@SundaeRoast Ай бұрын

I don't believe you. Actually, yes I do.

@ARoll925 Ай бұрын

That's not a skeptic

@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 Ай бұрын

Why would a skeptic require creativity? It’s a method for assessing the truth of claims, not making sh!t up. You have no idea what you are talking about.

@Soylent1981 Ай бұрын

@@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 I would say an integral part of skepticism is the ability to doubt what you think you know. A method of doubting is to be able to think of plausible alternatives to the assumed knowledge. Indeed, one of the most famous instances of skepticism, Renée Descartes, conceived of an evil demon to aid in his doubt. A person who cannot imagine an alternative is more likely to hold their belief as true since they are unable to see how the evidence points to another possibility. Your comment is almost meaningless because you give no indication of the mechanism that skepticism uses as a means to assess the truth. The scientific method is built on creativity; creativity to propose a hypothesis worthy of testing and a creative methodology to conduct the experiments. Creativity is an important element of skepticism.

@queuecee Ай бұрын

The idiocy of a troll reposting the same tired arguments over and over has no bottom.

@rbwinn3 Ай бұрын

I repost the same correct equations for relativity over and over again. So far no one has offered to discuss them.

@queuecee Ай бұрын

@@rbwinn3 I LITERALLY offered you to come on my live stream and discuss it. AND SO many people have responded to your idiotic comment that all of physicists are wrong and you are right because you understand junior high algebra and don't seem to think that physicists, even Lorentz, doesn't understand junior high algebra.

@joshsheridan9511 Ай бұрын

@@queueceewhat could physicists with PHD's know compered to a LSD with high-school algebra? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@nealjroberts4050 Ай бұрын

@@rbwinn3😆😂🤣

@Seticzech Ай бұрын

@@rbwinn3 "no one has offered to discuss them" Discussing nonsense is nonsensical.

@AcidGubba Ай бұрын

So I think there's a good chance that the caller could become an atheist. For many believers, it's completely unrealistic that they would even question their faith; for them, it's absolute and doubt isn't allowed. Okay, I take it back, the guy is not particularly intelligent. But who knows, maybe he will accidentally broaden his horizons.

@dustinmorton942 Ай бұрын

I simply do not believe him when he talks about his supernatural stories. There is no mechanism for lightbulbs to explode. This isn’t a movie.

@bestbehave Ай бұрын

That just proves it. 😂

@joelonsdale 17 күн бұрын

Splash of water can do it. Happened to me.

@vernonlomax1721 Ай бұрын

Self delusion is very real. My family can attest that I have believed I was a werewolf since age 5. It took me another 63 years to learn that I have a very rare psychological condition called Lycanthropy Personality Disorder. This makes more logical sense than me being a supernatural creature who has never shown the ability to transform. I even gave up my religious beliefs more than 35 years ago.

@robinharwood5044 Ай бұрын

What happens at full moon?

@vernonlomax1721 Ай бұрын

@@robinharwood5044 haha! The full moon didn’t affect me. You wouldn’t believe the complex story I weaved to justify my belief. Try cross dimensional symbiosis with a lycanthropy species. Obviously, I have an overactive imagination.

@SeattleDinghyer Ай бұрын

Puberty must have been tough... i saw your documentary about high school: Teen Wolf.

@beerman1957 Ай бұрын

The story of Jesus has parallel stories with Buddha, Krishna and several Greek and Roman Gods. Several other ancient myths also persist in the story.

@shrews12001 Ай бұрын

Both testaments are almost entirely lifted from previous myths and legends, some with slight changes and others near word for word with new names. The Bible is a Readers Digest of religious horse hockey

@philipinchina Ай бұрын

Paul the apostle, had an epistle That was so long it made all the girls whistle.

@SundaeRoast Ай бұрын

...And when he got it out On a staff day out It resulted in instant dismissal.

@holgerlubotzki3469 Ай бұрын

And he went to launch his missile but the ladies all did bristle and they beat him off with a thistle.

@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 Ай бұрын

@@holgerlubotzki3469 Beat him off with a thistle? Paul was a freak but was he that freaky?

@holgerlubotzki3469 Ай бұрын

@@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 He never used a feather! He always used a hole (sic) chicken

@dangerdest3606 23 күн бұрын

I've been having a shit few weeks. Hearing this guy make his "arguments" and "challenges" and just run himself in circles has made me belly laugh so much. Needed this.

@headkraber Ай бұрын

The lightbulb guy! I remember him 😂

@jeffparent2159 Ай бұрын

So you have Paul, killing off Christians and then suddenly he becomes THE head of the church having specifically state he had never met the figurehead of the religion outside of dreams and visions. And he gets all the benefits of being the head of the church by continuing to state that he talked to people who knew Jesus. We have no reason to listen to Paul as he gains the same head of church status had he just made up all these claims and never talked to anyone.

@stephenolan5539 Ай бұрын

Imagine if the FBI agent in charge of watching Scientology had a seizure and thought that L Ron Hubbard was God. I think that would parallel Paul.

@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 Ай бұрын

Paul was a boss. He made the entire Christian population his b!tch. He saw an opportunity and grabbed it with both hands. You’ve got to give the guy a bit of credit for that.

@Gerryjournal Ай бұрын

If you see a guy in a public street verbally abusing a fruit tree, do you cross the street or say, wow look, the son of god?

@bestbehave Ай бұрын

What other possible explanation is there?

@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 Ай бұрын

Was it a fig tree? Fig trees are tw@ts.

@nealjroberts4050 Ай бұрын

Another throwback: I used to be surprised that so many of my fellow theists kept getting atheism wrong. Initially I blamed it on the so called New Atheism which essentially was a deliberately provocative form of antitheism. However, the continuation of the wrong definitions and inferences being propounded despite education by atheists and by theists like myself leads to the conclusion that it's deliberate ignorance. The reasons for that avoidance of truth seem to come down to two basic ones: fear and/or hatred. Fear of being wrong, fear of losing community, fear of losing purpose, etc Hatred of what's different, hatred that others can live with different purposes and beliefs, etc etc. It comes as no surprise that these sorts of people also are the most intolerant in society, the most misogynistic/homophobic/transphobic/racist/"othertheismphobic"/etc. I pity them.

@vladtheemailer3223 Ай бұрын

I think a lot of it comes down to the need to reinforce the ingroups position.

@Specialeffecks Ай бұрын

I had an experience I can't explain, so my explanation is Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, Scientology, aliens/UFOs, Big Foot, etc...

@pvoshefski Ай бұрын

The pretzel logic of theists is always amusing and very telling.

@arnoldfossman1701 Ай бұрын

The caller says he has an open mind, I wonder though if it might be open at both ends.

@gordonlynn8300 Ай бұрын

I think his brain fell out .

@einienj3281 Ай бұрын

Empty between the ears

@mark2king Ай бұрын

I really like Traci's analogy: "zero plus zero plus zero (etc) will never equal one".

@david-pb4bi Ай бұрын

Ye, that was brilliant, she is always good value.

@philojudaeusofalexandria9556 Ай бұрын

But... His story IS a myth - even by the Christian view of him. myth (noun) "a traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events."

@einienj3281 Ай бұрын

"I was an atheist"..no. He had a traumatic experience then connected a random lightbulb exploding to there being a god. Then he claims to be a rational person.....

@zolaarczakle Ай бұрын

My favorite pair!

@Vincent-fo7xp Ай бұрын

"Did you try mentioning her name around other light bulbs?" 😅😅😅

@edmundquek3530 25 күн бұрын

"When I read books on particle physics, even ontological argument, and John Lennox ......" The caller actually said three unrelated things in a sentence.

@sunsetman1479 Ай бұрын

Eddy sounds like a cherry picker. he should go to washington state and pick cherries and other fruits. If your god does things that dont make sense you have to accept he does not exist. The entire story of God and Jesus is so unreasonable it isnt funny.

@tekbarrier Ай бұрын

You can just hear his brain desperately trying to cling to his irrational belief at all costs

@lnsflare1 Ай бұрын

Actually, now that I think about it, my power went out while I was on the phone with my boss yesterday, so obviously that's proof that the ghost of the still-living customer we were talking about got Jesus to trip my circuit breaker. QED.

@shrews12001 Ай бұрын

Yep.

@JamesRichardWiley Ай бұрын

The Jewish preacher who was executed as a public nuisance and the miracle working godman who saved humanity are two different characters.

@jwsanders1214 Ай бұрын

You don't have a clue

@davidszeremi1786 Ай бұрын

What are your sources?

@gerhardgiedrojc991 Ай бұрын

@@jwsanders1214How can you have a clue about something that does not exist. What a stupid question it is until the claim that a musical maker exists.

@CreamIceMs Күн бұрын

The way I KNEW he was going to say they were bad mouthing her... 😂😅 poor friend 😞

@corringhamdepot4434 28 күн бұрын

Many years ago 5 or 6 of us were sitting around in the office library telling each other ghost stories. We were interrupted by a large heavy ring binder on a far shelf, falling flat with a very loud "splat". One person was up and out of the door like a flash. Some of us just laughed. Never for a moment did I think that it was a "real" ghost. People just believe what they want to believe.

@chadpatterson9796 Ай бұрын

Eddy has no idea what he believes

@party4keeps28 Ай бұрын

He just believes what he's been told to believe.

@vladtheemailer3223 Ай бұрын

I think he was a real dude. That doesn't make anything in the bible true

@phillysupra Ай бұрын

Jesus was a common name just like the other "apostle" names were. So yeah there was a guy named Jesus

@queuecee Ай бұрын

@@phillysupra Hey, pssst. You wanna get into heaven? Well, I know a guy.

@vladtheemailer3223 Ай бұрын

@@queueceeCan he help me make $42,000 a week? Who is this amazing guy?

@vladtheemailer3223 Ай бұрын

@@phillysupraI don't doubt there was some apocalyptic prophet named Jesus. What we see in the bible is an individual being divinified.

@phillysupra Ай бұрын

@@queuecee sign me up! I now feel like donating 10% of my paycheck to this guy every check.

@artemisnite Ай бұрын

Idc if some dude named Yeshua existed or not. The guy walking on water, multiplying fish and resurrecting from the dead ABSOLUTELY DID NOT EXIST.

@mikeythehat6693 Ай бұрын

Try to count how many times that Eddy started his answer with "no...but", while he's trying to convince us of his open mindedness.

@SundaeRoast Ай бұрын

Jesus the person may or may not have existed but if he did, he was just a person. Pity, as he could have made a fortune with all those -miracles- magic tricks. He wouldn't have stayed a humble carpenter for long 😅

@qwadratix Ай бұрын

I suspect he did. The entry to Jerusalem reads like an account of a con-man trying to pass himself off as the Messiah that all ended badly for him. (The donkey and foal bit?, very suspect. And the reaction of the crowd who'd rather have Barabbas released than this guy. They were p*ssed.)

@nealjroberts4050 Ай бұрын

@@qwadratix Would explain why Nazareth is depicted as not believing anything about him. It being his hometown

@ronwhitehouse23 Ай бұрын

I WAS an atheist, means I was NEVER an atheist.

@davidszeremi1786 Ай бұрын

Couldn't a person go from not being convinced to being convinced that there is a God because they have poor critical thinking skills?

@SeattleDinghyer Ай бұрын

@@davidszeremi1786and the reverse. I was a Christian, and now I'm an atheist.

@davidszeremi1786 Ай бұрын

@@SeattleDinghyer same. I learned too much about the Bible

@ronwhitehouse23 Ай бұрын

@@davidszeremi1786 Could it be they possibly have delusional tendencies.?

@RabenmundK Ай бұрын

@@davidszeremi1786 Yes, it happened to me. Grew up in a household of unbelievers and didnt put a lot of thought into my 'atheism'. During a rough time in my life i met christians who helped me out and their story - and my own experiences - were very convinving. So i converted and stayed a Christian for some years. But, since i also was a critical thinker - and someone who read thr bible - i found more and more inconsistencies. Pair that with me being a naturalistic guy, i "deconverted" back to Atheism which i am since then. But this time i had put some serious thinking into my position, unlike when i grew up. Edit: english is my 2nd language.. so i hope you can endure my grammar and possible wrong usage of words

@iatebambismom 23 күн бұрын

"The plural of anecdote is not data". I'm keeping that.

@geoffallshorn5167 Ай бұрын

If someone claimed in a letter that they had met Spiderman's brother, is that 'historical evidence' to conclusively prove that Spiderman existed?

@thomaswigfield7623 Ай бұрын

I think that Jesus was mythical. Does anyone want to provide evidence to the contrary?

@vladtheemailer3223 Ай бұрын

The biblical Jesus or historical Jesus?

@thomaswigfield7623 Ай бұрын

@@vladtheemailer3223 Is there a difference?

@SundaeRoast Ай бұрын

Well, a book said a thing - so there's that.

@phillysupra Ай бұрын

@@SundaeRoastif a book said it, then it's GOT to be true 🤣🤣

@vladtheemailer3223 Ай бұрын

@thomaswigfield7623 The typical view among secular scholars is that Jesus was a historical figure. He was not the Messiah or the son of God. What you see in the NT is called "apotheosis." The apostles basically made up everything so that they could have the Messiah that they needed.

@JDMunoz-ct9xn Ай бұрын

He admits that instances of any event occurring outside of the specific circumstances of a conversation about the decreased wouldn't even be recorded, so he has basically no data at all. Bro, do you even science?

@captainhowdy2782 Ай бұрын

My sister & brother-in-law claim to be former atheists because, during a rough spell in their lives, they briefly lost their faith. They didn't examine their former beliefs, or the Bible. They just temporarily lost faith during tough times. That's not how I became a non-believer. That's why I'm agnostic about these atheist to theist claims.

@VitoDRF 25 күн бұрын

Any time someone starts a statement with "I consider myself very reasonable" you can bet they're about to show just how unreasonable a person they really are.

@Gooberchen Ай бұрын

"I can't explain these things, so therefore I will create an explanation for them" is a sign of extremely poor epistemology.

@davidszeremi1786 Ай бұрын

There were a metric ton of reformist/apocalyptic self appointed prophets in the first century. John the Baptist and James the brother of Jesus were just two others that may have been out there

@chrisgraham2904 Ай бұрын

Eddy has made my brain hurt so bad. Eddy is not alone, as it seems to be epidemic that so many Americans have no concept of what evidence is, how to evaluate it and apply it in the context of logic and reason. This phenomenon is creating so many conflicts and issues in religions, politics and so many other areas in order to achieve a valid understanding of reality. American children have somehow never learned important skills that most the rest of the world seems to have a much better understanding of. Children are lacking any skills of skepticism and epistemology to make decisions, or build belief from and the problem grows with them into their adult lives.

@briarrose6442 29 күн бұрын

if I was talking about a deceased friend and lightbulbs blew out, pictures fell off the wall, and my dog wouldn't step paw into the room, I'd absolutely assume ghosts before god

@ImGoingSupersonic Ай бұрын

They know the AXP isn't what it used to be, reason for all the throwbacks.. I miss these old episodes.

@kidslovesatan34 Ай бұрын

There's some truth to that.

@kendrickjahn1261 25 күн бұрын

"I'm a rational person." But then carries on with irrational conclusions.

@forcedtohaveahandle Ай бұрын

"I used to be an atheist" = I just wasn't very religious / didn't go to church lol

@RAD-ju1ru 10 күн бұрын

I was thinking about blueberries when a plane flew over my house. Now I realize blueberries are the reason aircraft can fly.

@user-tg9gp2bf8x Ай бұрын

Light bulbs will explode if the voltage reaches its peak on positive or negative voltage. No Devine involvement.

@rgavel 27 күн бұрын

My union uses the term 'brother' all the time, which rubs me the wrong way. I have three actual brothers, and they're family, not some strangers sitting around a meeting room.

@BarerMender 29 күн бұрын

This minds me of Thomas Paine. I don't remember the exact words, but he said something like, If you have a revelation from God, that's yours. You can go with that. But no one else has to believe it.

@brewberry3894 Ай бұрын

The written accounts of jesus are 100% debatable, whether inside or outside the bible, and are not in fact hard evidence.

@nameofthegame9664 23 күн бұрын

“I have a rational mind” *lightbulb explodes* “Jesus MUST be God”

@charleshinkley6 21 күн бұрын

Paul didn’t say he met Jesus’s brother. He said he met “a Brother of Christ”, which meant someone who had been baptised.

@24magiccarrot Ай бұрын

I could think of several reasons as to how Paul could say he met Jesus's brother and there not actually ever have been an actual Jesus, all ranging from Paul lying to him using a different meaning to the term brother. The problem with Christians is they take things on face value, and don't take into allowance the possibility for deceit or metaphor (except when it suits them for the text to be treated as a metaphor)

@larrycarter3765 18 күн бұрын

I do.

@MrBozoOzo 29 күн бұрын

If a lightbulb explodes, will it cause someone to say her name?

@hannotn Ай бұрын

My personal response to any assertion of the historicity of Jesus is "so what?" The key issue is not whether someone called Jesus exist, it's whether he did supernatural things and whether he's a god. There's not even a hint of proof of those latter issues, so I'm indifferent to his claimed existence.

@thecentralscrutinizer Ай бұрын

I don't even think that paul was a real person.

@lnsflare1 Ай бұрын

Where in the Bible did Jesus' ghost cause lightbulbs to explode or pictures to fall of the frame?

@diannalynnYT 20 күн бұрын

Why are so many not ok with saying they don't know? It's ok not to know the answer/explanation for everything.

@ardalla535 Ай бұрын

Paul casually mentions "James, the brother of the Lord" and then doesn't expand on that at all. Later he says James and Peter are nothing to him and have no more status than he has. Would he talk that way if he really thought James was the biological brother of the Son of God? More likely, the Brother of the Lord is title that James had. Paul said Brother of the Lord because he knew his readers would know what he was referring to -- a group of people calling themselves Brothers of the Lord.

@shrews12001 Ай бұрын

I mean literally today members of the church refer to themselves as brother and sister. In Catholicism nuns all have the title of Sister. Paul was establishing very early that the church would operate as a family unit on the same level as biological family. Perhaps the goal of that was to enforce the idea of being as loyal to the church as you would your blood family...? Now, isn't that interesting. Sounds a little bit like coercion.