Do Engine Coolant Filters Work?

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Freedom Worx

Freedom Worx

11 ай бұрын

Let's see if engine coolant filters actually work. This Donaldson Filter has been on the Riff Raff Diesel Engine Coolant Filter System on my 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel for 3 years and 20K miles. So let's cut it open and see how much sediment it actually captured!

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@bmoturtleco
@bmoturtleco 11 ай бұрын
I've never understood why all cars don't have a coolant filter. It just seems logical to have one.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 11 ай бұрын
Money. Simple as that.
@bmoturtleco
@bmoturtleco 11 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx so true. But I'm surprised that the aftermarket doesn't either. I can understand manufacturers not equipping new cars because of cost. But the aftermarket/hobby doesn't seem to use them either.
@thingsido4278
@thingsido4278 10 ай бұрын
But why would a car need a coolant filter? It's not like there are any high tolerance components in cooling systems anyways. Doubtfull that even a cup of sand could do any damage to anything in a cooling system.
@bmoturtleco
@bmoturtleco 10 ай бұрын
@@thingsido4278 to help prevent corrosion and build up. Most coolant tanks are open to the atmosphere. Therefore, anything that splashes under your hood could get in your tank. Plus, a lot of systems have gunk that builds up and clogs the system.
@purgethemutants4142
@purgethemutants4142 10 ай бұрын
@@thingsido4278it can, causes unnecessary wear to everything it touches, especially the water pump and thermostat, and any tight place the coolant gets forced through, radiator, heater core etc
@scotty2307
@scotty2307 10 ай бұрын
Most heavy trucks have a coolant filter. Many of those coolant filters come with a tablet of conditioner in the bottom. If you shake a new filter, it will rattle. Also, be careful opening those coolant filters. Some brands have a really strong spring and can hurt you.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
This one is just a filter, no conditioner in it. My understanding is that most heavy truck manufacturers are getting away from using them, with the prevalence of Extended Life Coolants. 👍
@thegreatwhite-hd3uo
@thegreatwhite-hd3uo 10 ай бұрын
so ur telling me u only drive 6 an half thousand miles a year
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
@@thegreatwhite-hd3uo in that truck. I have a few.
@Jank42O
@Jank42O 10 ай бұрын
Some do, but definitely not most. Not anymore anyways
@JohnSmith-xu7ev
@JohnSmith-xu7ev 9 ай бұрын
​@@thegreatwhite-hd3uo Ok 40yr old guy
@martinandersson5278
@martinandersson5278 10 ай бұрын
They do also contain additives like anti corrosion etc
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
This one contains no additives. It’s just a filter, not a filter conditioner. 👍
@peteengard9966
@peteengard9966 10 ай бұрын
​@@freedomworx They all have nitrite. Keeps your liners from pitting. Just because it says no conditioner means no anti rust. All filters designed for coolant contain nitrite.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
@@peteengard9966 It says “Chemical Free.” They do not all have nitrites in them. Blank filters are chemical free 🤷🏻‍♂️. Wouldn’t make much sense to put nitrites into a nitrite free coolant.
@BurchellAtTheWharf
@BurchellAtTheWharf 10 ай бұрын
​@@freedomworxis it a special filter or would any filter do?
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
@BurchellAtTheWharf it’s specifically designed for coolant.
@Brettclarke44
@Brettclarke44 10 ай бұрын
Didn't know Burt kreischer knew how to work on cars.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Burnt Chrysler 🤓
@johnfehr89
@johnfehr89 11 ай бұрын
And if you have conventional coolant it maintains the additives, so to speak
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I know that’s one of the reasons the larger engines use them. To replenish the coolant additive package. 👍
@johnfehr89
@johnfehr89 11 ай бұрын
​@@freedomworx those are the ones I work on 😊
@paulcondie2520
@paulcondie2520 10 ай бұрын
It'll definitely help keep the impeller in good shape in your water pump.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Worn out impellers make more horsepower. 😂
@brettknighten1171
@brettknighten1171 10 ай бұрын
Impellers are almost never the failure point on water pumps the bearings and seals are 99% of the issues
@paulcondie2520
@paulcondie2520 10 ай бұрын
@@brettknighten1171 👍
@louisschummer931
@louisschummer931 10 ай бұрын
Pulled the OEM pump out of my 6.0L with over 500km's on it not because it wasn't working but because I was upgrading the entire cooling system. Looking at it it could have gone back in the truck.
@daviddroescher
@daviddroescher 10 ай бұрын
@@louisschummer931 The additive booster contained in some filters keep the chemistry stabilized.,too prevent precipitate forming. In used up cooent( talking chemistry) Silica will forme on seal lip cutting into the shaft causes a leak that takes yhe bearings
@PhilipSepulveda
@PhilipSepulveda 10 ай бұрын
Diesel coolant filters add supplemental coolant additives aswell, they're for coating the exterior of the cylinders to prevent cavitation from vibrations.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Yes, many do. This one does not. It’s just a filter. The truck has ELC in it, so it doesn’t require any additives.
@daviddroescher
@daviddroescher 10 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx ELC? Unless it is a coating inside the block . What is it doing agenst cavitation? Assuming it's a sleave block in a big truck, or ford.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
@@daviddroescher ELC is extended life coolant. The additives needed to combat cavitation don’t degrade like they did in the old coolant. Or at least, not as fast. So the additives placed in filters aren’t really needed anymore.
@daviddroescher
@daviddroescher 10 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx Thanks then I'm familiar with ELC then . It dose form a sacrificial coating thick enough to prevent cavitation damage. Ph testing is nessasary to verify levels of additives are still at a protective level. When it dose get used up add some booster , typically only found in a big truck shop.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
@@daviddroescher I just pour some Bourbon in there and pray 😂👍
@tomthompson7400
@tomthompson7400 10 ай бұрын
im more impressed that you have a tool for opening filters
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
I’m a nerd 🤓
@camrongoodall
@camrongoodall 10 ай бұрын
So if you plan on owning a vehicle longer than 10-15 years a coolant filters a good idea thanks 👍
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Or just flush the system and replace the coolant every 5 or so years. This truck was 20 years old before it got a filter.
@samslade739
@samslade739 10 ай бұрын
I've been a mechanic for over 40 years. I have 5 large tool boxes full of tools. But never got one of those fancy filter cutters. 😂
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Priorities 😂👍
@milldawgj9598
@milldawgj9598 10 ай бұрын
It’s on the list for 17 6.7 powerstroke. I’m case anyone is wondering filtering sediment and scale out your cooking helps work more efficiently and keeps you from chewing up water pump bearings.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Folks will always argue about the purpose of the filter. A lot of folks say it’s entire purpose is as a median to get additives into the system. I tried not to discuss the purpose, by I got dragged into the debate in the comments anyway 😂
@stephenotto2294
@stephenotto2294 10 ай бұрын
There are some of the filters on diesel engines esp. That do have additives in them ive changed hundreds of them at work. They are great at filtering out all the stuff esp when you do have any issues starting
@stephenotto2294
@stephenotto2294 10 ай бұрын
Also the theromostat as well as your whole system cause if its not it just continues to get worse without them
@snifflingrock1289
@snifflingrock1289 10 ай бұрын
If your running the proper coolant, no need for coolant filters. I work as a diesel mechanic and coolant filters are no longer a thing on the trucks, for all engine manufacturer. Many of the manufacturers have coolant filter deletes. Only thing coolent filters were for was adding additives back into coolant. Since extend life coolant came out, filters went away.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
@@snifflingrock1289 they are for filtration and as a means to distribute coolant additives. Coolant filters were around before additives were even a thing. So they still provide a means to filter the coolant. That being said, they aren't generally needed, but do still provide a benefit in preventing erosion caused by contaminates. Truck manufactures didn't stop using them because they were useless, they stopped using them to reduce manufacturing and maintenance costs. Here is the patent from Baldwin Filters if you don't want to take my word for it: patents.google.com/patent/US5948248A/en
@annaelise5873
@annaelise5873 9 ай бұрын
I own a larger truck with a Cat diesel. When I got the truck with only 9000 mi on it, the coolant looked disgusting. I flushed it and ran it at least 10 times and the coolant was still pretty gross. After installing Cat ELC coolant, I was disappointed to find that the coolant looked old and brown despite the number of flushes the block had just gotten. I installed a Cat coolant filter and ran it about 500 miles. After that, the brown coolant now looked red and transparent exactly like it came out of the jug. It was an absolute night and day difference. Highly recommended!
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 ай бұрын
Wow. That’s wild.
@privategramcracker01
@privategramcracker01 10 ай бұрын
I need to get one. The guy i bought by car from used water in a cast iron block instead of antifreeze.
@stephenotto2294
@stephenotto2294 10 ай бұрын
Thats probally due 2 past leaks or a current one? Alot of people when they habe leaks and dont have the money just uae water 2 fill up witch makes everythingnworse cause of all the rust thatbwill buiod up in the system and cause more leaks
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Its all fun an games until it gets before freezing. Just flush it with a good coolant system flush, and inline water hose connection. Then flush it with distilled water a couple times. Then refill with the appropriate coolant/distilled water mix.
@privategramcracker01
@privategramcracker01 10 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx I did have to drain it to fix a couple of leaks then drained it again. Should I worry about rust eating away at the block? Vulcan 3.0 v6 it is.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
@privategramcracker01 no. As long as the appropriate antifreeze is in there, it should be fine.
@goosenotmaverick1156
@goosenotmaverick1156 10 ай бұрын
Doesn't matter what the material is, running straight water is generally a bad idea. At least long term
@mysterycitizen2135
@mysterycitizen2135 10 ай бұрын
You'd think this would be unnecessary, since the coolant system is supposed to be a closed loop, especially if it was filled with quality Fleetguard coolant. Then again, as long as the filter doesn't obstruct the flow and make the water pump work harder, it's not bad insurance.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
You got it. Not necessary, but beneficial… but just barely. 😂
@imchris5000
@imchris5000 9 ай бұрын
its only really thing on some ford trucks because they had flaws in the processes of removing sand cores from the casting the 6.0s were really bad for this
@funstuff6241
@funstuff6241 10 ай бұрын
It's an issue with the 7.3 because of cavitation. I don't have one on my 5.9 Cummins. Stay safe 😎
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
This filter doesn't have any additives in it. It's just a plain ole filter, not a filter conditioner.
@evandrewmartinez1
@evandrewmartinez1 10 ай бұрын
​@@freedomworxcavitation is not an additive lol
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
@@evandrewmartinez1 the additives are to help prevent corrosion/erosion from cavitation… You think the filtration prevents cavitation? Nope, it’s the compounds in the coolant, which are generally maintained by filter/conditioners. This filter has no additives in it, thus it’s a filter, not a filter conditioner. And cylinder cavitation is not an issue with the 7.3 or 5.9 Cummins engines. It can occur, but it’s generally only a problem in wet sleeve engines due to the increased vibration in the sleeves, causing an increase in cavitation. Might want to study up a little before you “lol” me 🤷🏻‍♂️
@evandrewmartinez1
@evandrewmartinez1 10 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx cavitation breaks off little pieces of the casting over time. That's why your turd 7.3 needs a coolant filter. No one is talking about additives in this comment thread except you. The original comment went clean over your head buddy.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
@@evandrewmartinez1 you said “7.3s need filters because of cavitation but 5.9s don’t. “. Which is an ignorant statement, just “like cavitation breaking off little pieces of casting over time. “. Yeah…microscopic pieces that will flow right through a filter. 7.3s didn’t come with coolant filters, and they don’t need coolant filters. This is an aftermarket unit that was given to me by a sponsor. I own a 7.3, 5.9, and a Duramax. So don’t give my your juvenile “turd 7.3” B.S. And I’ve rebuilt wet sleeve engines due to cavitation induced cylinder liner erosion. Never personal seen a 7.3 or any other integral sleeve block that failed do to cavitation induced cylinder failure. As long as the coolant chemistry is correct, it’s not an issue in any engine. It’s seems you don’t know very much about cavitation or coolant filtration technology. Might want to brush up on that if you want to continue this conversation. I can recommend a few books if you’re actually interested in learning 🤷🏻‍♂️
@colinwallace5286
@colinwallace5286 10 ай бұрын
If you got a look at one from a diesel that does over 100,000 miles a year, you’d see what it does. Also, if you’re running regular life coolant, the filter maintains the additive package for the coolant.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I have ELC in this truck. Doesn't need the additives 👍
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 10 ай бұрын
Sure they work. As long as your cooling system remains clean, you really don't need a filter.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
I put the disclaimer in the video that I wasn’t saying they are needed 👍
@warehousejo007
@warehousejo007 10 ай бұрын
​@@freedomworx but the logic is obvious.... they don't hurt and they clearly help! some of us paid attention. 😐
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Well a lot of things can help but not be logical to incorporate into the system. Changing my engine oil every 1,000 miles could reduce engine wear over the life of the vehicle. But the benefit would not outweigh the thousands of dollars I spent to reduce that engine wear a minuscule amount. Same with coolant filters. Most OEMs just don’t incorporate them anymore. They might provide some benefit, but it’s probably not worth the cost of purchase and maintenance of the filter.
@rodsgeneticts716
@rodsgeneticts716 10 ай бұрын
Man the 7.3 was a real motor I would give just about anything to have one
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
You can get an engine for $1500 bucks, getting one wrapped in a truck…not so much 🥴
@BlackandWhitecustoms
@BlackandWhitecustoms 10 ай бұрын
I have a van for sale with running and driving 7.3 in it for sale
@Umski
@Umski 8 ай бұрын
Wish I had a can opener that was so effective :D
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 8 ай бұрын
For those big cans 🛢️🛢️
@heavymetalmechanicX
@heavymetalmechanicX 9 ай бұрын
For applications that require supplemental coolant additives (SCA), some filters are available with different doses of additives inside. You would test the coolant, determine the dose needed, then install the corresponding filter with the correct dose.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 ай бұрын
Yep. This one is just a filter though. Which means it’s only a little better than useless 😉
@heavymetalmechanicX
@heavymetalmechanicX 9 ай бұрын
There's all kinds of nasty stuff that floats around in a cooling system. I'd rather have a filter than not.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 ай бұрын
Having a filter is definitely not hurting anything 👍
@kirkgolembiewski7220
@kirkgolembiewski7220 10 ай бұрын
20,000 miles in 3 years? Bro teleworks for sure
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Teleworks and has several trucks 😉
@kirkgolembiewski7220
@kirkgolembiewski7220 10 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx sounds like you’re living the dream!
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
First World Problems 😎
@christophernava6685
@christophernava6685 9 ай бұрын
I don't have a diesel but I have a 99 GMC K2500 crew cab and been debating to install one, i believe these work honestly.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 ай бұрын
It’s not a necessity.
@mikeulloa
@mikeulloa 9 ай бұрын
A coolent filter sounds inviting; however, there is no friction to protect. Its just not needed - it's like a filter for the coolent system.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 ай бұрын
It’s not like a filter for the coolant system, it’s precisely a filter for the coolant system 😉👍
@Brett235
@Brett235 10 ай бұрын
I run one on my Peterbilt 379 with the 60 series Detroit. We change it every oil change. It seems to be helping with sediment.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Good Ole 60 Series 👍
@snarley642
@snarley642 9 ай бұрын
6.0l powerstroke was known for having residual sand from casting show up. 7.3 wasn't too bad. Still doesn't hurt putting one on anything.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 ай бұрын
It’s overkill for sure.
@benjamindekruyf2
@benjamindekruyf2 10 ай бұрын
Power generation diesel technician here… coolant filter do not have the intention as the name applies, although they do filter because of their design. As a piston goes down on its power stroke in a diesel engine the piston in the cylinder is not a perfect fit. It rocks back and forth a tiny bit. This causes violent vibrations that transfer through the cylinder wall into the coolant jacket. The vibration causes a mini implosion causing the metal on the coolant jacket side of the cylinder wall to pull metal. Coolant filters coat the entirety of the cooling system with a layer of material so that these vibrations do not pull off metal causing a pin hole to go into your cylinders 🎉
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
You are describing cavitation. I understand that. You are also describing a filter/conditioner. They have additives in them to maintain the coolant chemistry (SCAs) just like you say. But not all contain additives (or anodes like in marine applications), this is just a plain ole filter. Here is the patent for filter/conditioners from Baldwin: patents.google.com/patent/US5948248A/en
@700TRX
@700TRX 10 ай бұрын
Volvo uses coolant filters to dose the corrosion protection additives back into the cooling system that naturally gets used up as the coolant degrades.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, it used to be fairly common on diesels. With extended life coolants, it’s not so important anymore. This one is just a filter. No chemicals in it 👍
@aloha204
@aloha204 10 ай бұрын
Found my new can opener 😂
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
For those big jobs 🤓
@aaronkeiser6349
@aaronkeiser6349 15 күн бұрын
I added one to my 1987 IDI Ford diesel coolant system and OMG it caught all types of junk. Pretty much plugged up a coolant filter in about 600 miles. Second filter was much better. Mind you this was older coolant. Personally if you add one I'd do a full drain, water flush with distilled water then fill with clean coolant with new filter. Change filter after 1000 or so miles then go to longer change intervals.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 15 күн бұрын
My coolant system had been flushed extensively, the filter still caught a surprising amount of crud though.
@gsommerfeldt
@gsommerfeldt 10 ай бұрын
“Do filters filter? Yes, filters filter.” 🤔 Okay, thanks. 😂
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
If you ran tap water through it, would it filter anything out? Nope. It's not about whether the filter will filter, It's about whether there is actually anything in the system that actually needs to be filtered. 🤡
@gsommerfeldt
@gsommerfeldt 10 ай бұрын
@@freedomworxIf the tap water had limescale and debris in it, that filter would absolutely filter it out. Wtf are you talking about, 🤡?
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
I think you’re missing the point bright boy 🙄
@gsommerfeldt
@gsommerfeldt 10 ай бұрын
@@freedomworxI think you missed the point, buddy boy. Which was a joke - and then you called me a clown. Now, obviously your video is about whether coolant filters are necessary/useful, which is why a semi intelligent person would realize my comment was in fact a joke - however, your reply about the tap water made it kind of clear what level you’re on, so… 🤷🏼‍♂️
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
If your comment was so valid, then why did you delete it? If you want to know what level I’m on, try me. Don’t let the accent and subject matter of this video fool you. If you try to engineering stump the chump with me, you’ll get your feelings hurt 🤷🏻‍♂️
@toyauto
@toyauto 10 ай бұрын
Bert Krieschers twin. Lmfao
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Burnt Chrysler 🤓
@BurchellAtTheWharf
@BurchellAtTheWharf 10 ай бұрын
This is slick, gonna have to get one fer my boat when eye giver er a heart transplant
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
All the filters 🤓
@BurchellAtTheWharf
@BurchellAtTheWharf 10 ай бұрын
@freedomworx always... just scooped up a boat name BillyFish gave her new filter and fluito find a while slue if issues 🤣
@BurchellAtTheWharf
@BurchellAtTheWharf 10 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx 🔧 🚢 Break Out Another Thousand 🤣
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
You know what they say…. A boat is a hole in the water that you throw money into.
@Redact63Lluks
@Redact63Lluks 9 ай бұрын
Most of what it picks up could probably just be drained out with a partial coolant flush after any head or radiator maintenance.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 ай бұрын
While I don’t disagree. This truck was flushed a minimum of 5 times within the 2 years prior to installing the filter in the truck, and it still picked up some stuff. But some could be from the fresh radiator, hoses, and water pump.
@Redact63Lluks
@Redact63Lluks 9 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx ahh, definitely a good feature, I'm sure the pump likes it.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 ай бұрын
Definitely won’t hurt anything but your wallet.
@j.m.5995
@j.m.5995 10 ай бұрын
MY Volvo D12 had those and after 1.5 million miles the block and head looked pretty good internally. I would typically change the coolant filter every 100k
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Nice 👍
@no1bandfan
@no1bandfan 9 ай бұрын
My 99 Honda accord started leaking oil into the water jacket, I wonder what that would’ve done to the filter.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 ай бұрын
Chocolate Milk Filter 🤓
@shamoblamo9625
@shamoblamo9625 10 ай бұрын
I thought the coolant filter was the radiator
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
😂😂 Touché
@matthewheinze1231
@matthewheinze1231 10 ай бұрын
The other thing they do is break up air bubbles. This is done to prevent cavitation that is a big problem in 7.3s. Ford has tried all kinds of things to prevent it. There was the "coolant conditioner" that was supposed to stop it.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
I’ve never known 7.3s to be very susceptible to cavitation erosion. That’s generally more prevalent on wet sleeve engines.
@repomannv
@repomannv 4 ай бұрын
Just replaced my heater core, $1300 later, I'm adding a $200 coolant filter so that never happens again.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, keeping the coolant changed can help prevent that, to an extent.
@Beijingbiden
@Beijingbiden 10 ай бұрын
Well they also stop cavitation by providing a medium for vibration to scub off the block rather then metal
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
This one is just a filter. No additives. 👍
@assassinlexx1993
@assassinlexx1993 10 ай бұрын
Yes they work great. All that crap that sits on the bottom of the rad is filtered out. Water pump has clean coolant. You have oil filter, gas filter, diesel filter, trans filter. So why not coolant filter.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
They aren’t necessary. They do provide some level of benefit, but it’s limited. The only contaminants in the coolant are from manufacture, or contaminants that got from corrosion or erosion in the cooling system. All the other systems in the car have a lot more contaminants to deal with.
@kingjames7273
@kingjames7273 10 ай бұрын
Im a trucker dying of cancer but still trucking to hell with cancer and with 6million miles under me Yes coolant filters work.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
I hate to here that brother. Keep on Trucking!
@chrisburrell8489
@chrisburrell8489 9 ай бұрын
Not going to lie that looked like transmission fluid at first
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 ай бұрын
Let’s keep this PG. This is a family channel 😂
@danielleneve9071
@danielleneve9071 10 ай бұрын
One of the best upgrades I ever put on my 6.0
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Best upgrade for a 6.0 is a For Sale sign 😂😉. Just messing with ya. They are pretty good engines once you get them sorted out. Definitely the best sounding engine 👌
@danielleneve9071
@danielleneve9071 10 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx I took the 6.0 out and put a 12 valve Cummins in the truck with a conversion kit lol I tried many times to make that engine platform work but it’s cursed.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Slightly more reliable 😂
@chublez
@chublez 10 ай бұрын
​@@danielleneve907112slow.
@apolinarponce4506
@apolinarponce4506 9 ай бұрын
It's about stopping electrolysis that's what causes the rust . It adds recharge sca to the coolant
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 ай бұрын
It’s cavitation erosion , not electrolysis.
@guy_incognito7538
@guy_incognito7538 10 ай бұрын
man put less miles on in 3 years than I do in 1 lol
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
I’ve got several trucks and work from home 🤷🏻‍♂️. Those are all recreational miles 🤓
@PopsHowTo
@PopsHowTo 10 ай бұрын
Just drain your fluid when recommended. Only time you really should have one is when dealing with sca.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
I’m not saying it’s necessary, just showing that it does capture contaminants in a cooling system.
@wellfuckk9805
@wellfuckk9805 10 ай бұрын
For a 220k motor that’s a solid test too, safe to say it works
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
It’s got 250k on it now. 🤓
@JonWhite-cy4mv
@JonWhite-cy4mv 9 ай бұрын
they also add DCA which is vital to combat corrosion and electrolysis.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 ай бұрын
Yes, many of them do incorporate additives and anodes, but this one is just a plain ole filter 👍
@JonWhite-cy4mv
@JonWhite-cy4mv 9 ай бұрын
I just looked it up on Donaldson's website, learned something new today, I thought they all had chemicals in them. @@freedomworx
@robertmacpeek424
@robertmacpeek424 10 ай бұрын
Always kinda wondered about this myself lol. See it a lot on medium & business class trucks
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, and it’s getting to where it is t even common on them. They were used to provide additives to the coolant in the past. But now the Extended Life Coolants have pretty much eliminated that need.
@bearslinger_3009
@bearslinger_3009 10 ай бұрын
Didn't think Bert Kreisher knew much bout cars
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Burnt Chrysler 😉
@foracal5608
@foracal5608 10 ай бұрын
I have one on my 4 runner I just got(it's a 95) I also put a fuel water separator inline frome my tank to the motor and ditched the tank filter 10 microns filters a ton of stuff you would never know about
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Not even sure if Toyotas need coolant to survive 😂
@supra392
@supra392 10 ай бұрын
You really only need a coolant filter if running the older coolants that have nitrites (like Ford Gold). Ford Orange (now obsolete) and Ford Yellow (replacement for Orange and also miscible with orange) do not have that additive (was meant to, or thought to have prevented cavitation). Because of that, if your run those new coolants and your cooling system is CLEAN AND FLUSHED IF IT HAD THE OLD COOLANTS and you switched to the new good stuff, then you do not need a coolant filter. But if you run Gold or older, and have a 7.3/6.0/6.4, coolant filters are an excellent BACKUP to changing your coolant every 60K religiously.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, they aren’t really needed now with extended life coolants.
@richardahola692
@richardahola692 10 ай бұрын
Nice can opener.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
For those big jobs 😎
@1oldskoolluvr
@1oldskoolluvr 9 ай бұрын
Do you have any more info (regarding the filter system you used on your truck) that you can share with us?
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 ай бұрын
This one came from Riff Raff Diesel.
@redneek24
@redneek24 10 ай бұрын
I just want to know where you got a filter opener.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
amzn.to/3ro9Vq0
@brettknighten1171
@brettknighten1171 10 ай бұрын
Coolant filters do filter however unlike oil they are a closed and sealed syestem meaning they should get next to zero contamination. Your coolant system also doesn't have tight holes for it to go through that would get clogged up buy the minuscule amount of sediments they may acrue over time. Most of which should be flushed out during coolant changes.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
They aren’t a necessity. 👍
@jscott6058
@jscott6058 10 ай бұрын
It’s technically not a filter, there’s additives in the canister to prevent cylinder cavitation an air bubbles in coolant
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
No, this is only a filter. It has no additives in it. Yes, many are used for chemical addition, but they are filters first and foremost. Here’s the U.S. Patent from Baldwin Filters: patents.google.com/patent/US5948248A/en
@PNWTimber
@PNWTimber 10 ай бұрын
Not a diesel guy, never heard of a coolant filter before. Are these diesel specific, or are they made for gasoline engines too?
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
They have historically been used on diesels primarily. A lot of them have additives in them that diesels need to stave off cylinder liner erosion due to cavitation. Cavitation isn’t really much of an issue in gasoline vehicles. But you could certainly put one on a gasoline engine. They generally aren’t needed on engines these days.
@chickenbob123
@chickenbob123 9 ай бұрын
If you only use distilled water and coolant and flush at the recommended intervals like nearly all manufacturers recommend it becomes pretty much a non issue.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 ай бұрын
I can’t argue with that. 👍
@rnflanders03
@rnflanders03 10 ай бұрын
Is anybody else questioning how this man has only put 20k miles on his truck in 3 years?!?! I put 20k a year on my car!!
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
I have several trucks and work from home 🤷🏻‍♂️
@josiahjosiah534
@josiahjosiah534 10 ай бұрын
coolant filters on the 6.0s would have prevented alot of grief
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
There are a lot of mechanics out there that are glad they didn't come with filters 😉
@nerysalguero3956
@nerysalguero3956 10 ай бұрын
We got em on our dd15 engines l, 30k service for all fluid filters. Those coolant filter come out nasty as shit.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
30k… good round number 😎
@danb2936
@danb2936 10 ай бұрын
They should have a small magnet to catch bits of rust from inside the block ❤
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Not a bad plan.
@Cimone90
@Cimone90 9 ай бұрын
A better question is why one would think that a filter designed to filter coolant wouldn't be filtering coolant
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 ай бұрын
It’s not a question of whether the filter will filter. It’s a question of whether or not there is actually anything in the coolant system that needs to be filtered out. I don’t think I ever stated or typed “do coolant filters filter.” I’m pretty careful with my wording 😉👍
@Cimone90
@Cimone90 9 ай бұрын
@freedomworx the video is titled "do engine coolant filters work?" Implying youre testing the filter. Your video should be titled "Are engine coolant filters necessary?" If you're already positing that they work. Either way, I found it neat that there was that much crap in it. I will sometimes cut an oil filter open during a change just to check.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 ай бұрын
I don’t disagree with what you are saying. But I do research to determine what title will perform the best. That’s just where I landed. Thanks for watching 👍
@aktrekker7622
@aktrekker7622 10 ай бұрын
Yo the machine workin on cars now??!?😂
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Burnt Chrysler 😎
@martyp7134
@martyp7134 10 ай бұрын
Diesel engine have coolant filters have Anodes in the filters to stop electrolysis because the block cast iron and cylinder steel alloy causing acid to eat the linner.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Raw water marine diesels have an anode. Not road diesels. They have chemical additives to prevent erosion from cavitation. And this filter has neither. It’s just a plain ole filter.
@lukehickory735
@lukehickory735 9 ай бұрын
How often should you change this on a diesel
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 ай бұрын
Probably more often than every 3 years 😂.
@Davo_1991
@Davo_1991 10 ай бұрын
How do you get one installed? May be there's universal screw on ones that have a plate you make two hoses in your cooling aystem run through? 🤷🏼
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
This one is specific to the 7.3L Super Duty and Excursion Platform. There are others available. But you don’t really need one. They provide limited benefit.
@HammerWrench
@HammerWrench 10 ай бұрын
Do you recommend it for gas V10’s?
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
I didn’t even recommend it for 7.3s 😉. Just flush it every decade and add new coolant. And only use distilled water.
@sawyer4981
@sawyer4981 10 ай бұрын
I leak about a gallon of coolant per 5K miles. No need for a filter when you basically flush the entire system every oil change 😂
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Don’t know why they don’t just design them all that way 😂
@jacobhorn4784
@jacobhorn4784 10 ай бұрын
You know what maintains a cooling system??? Change the damn coolant. Every 3 years for conventional and every 5 for extended life. Our shop only does cooling and a/c related components and we rebuild and repair all heat exchanger for farm,fleet, off road machines and of course automotive. Biggest thing I run into is corrosion or for brass and copper rads solder bloom which is a white crusty rad murderer that shows up when lead has met it’s half life and separates from the tin. To slow those kinds of things down you must change coolant at the recommended intervals. And of course the filter will pick up stuff from the system because all metals involved break down and deteriorate and will leave deposits that will make their way to a filter in-line if you supply one. But changing the coolant and flushing the system with a garden hose because you want volume to go through the system and then seal her up add coolant and remove air from system then once thermostat opens close the cap check if your heat works and move on. Even if it does work a coolant filter is a waste of money in my opinion which doesn’t make it fact lol. And I don’t want to hear about using garden hose because of hard water. Unless it’s a well your getting your water from distilled is also a waste of money and the conditioners provided in your fresh coolant will take care of all those concerns I promise this is all I do everyday and have never had someone come back and say your ruined my car using hard water from the tap lol
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Well there isn’t a conditioner in this filter to fix my water. It’s just a plain ole filter. I flushed all the old coolant out, then flushed it with the garden hose, then flushed it several times with distilled water before I swapped it over to ELC. I’m not telling folks that they are needed, just that there are contaminates forming in the system and a filter catches them. The reality of it is, most folks won’t ever change their coolant as specified, and if they had a filter, they wouldn’t change it either. Oil, batteries, and tires are about the only things that ever gets attention.
@jacobhorn4784
@jacobhorn4784 10 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx you are not lying when you say most don’t change because that’s what I hear all the time. And I totally wasn’t trashing your video or you I know you know your shit. Mostly responding to people in the comments lol
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
@@jacobhorn4784 no offense taken. Thanks for the thorough comment 👍
@Freezinggreece2
@Freezinggreece2 9 ай бұрын
I need to install a housing for one of these in my grand am. Previous owner took horrible care of the engine, and now it has pebbles of oxidation in the coolant system
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 ай бұрын
I didnt realize there was a GA still on the road. Classic 👌
@Freezinggreece2
@Freezinggreece2 9 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx oh yeah, there's two that I know of from the 90s still on the road in my state. Mine, and a guy who lives near my office. Once I get the money saved up, I also want to repaint it and fix the door panels. Lots of work left to be done, but it's running well for what it has
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 ай бұрын
My best friend in HS drove one. Between that, the 4 door Nova, and the ratty Chevy Luv, we had to beat the ladies off with sticks.
@ranblank1970
@ranblank1970 10 ай бұрын
Vw needs that
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Yes! On Their old air cooled engines 😂😉
@freedom-volvo-usa
@freedom-volvo-usa 10 ай бұрын
If you change your coolant when it needs it you don’t need a coolant filter , that’s for if you know your not going to service the coolant
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
True. They aren’t really needed. Especially given today’s extended life coolants. They still provide benefit, but it’s very limited.
@Bobbert-rk1vn
@Bobbert-rk1vn 10 ай бұрын
Can you modify it for older systems ?
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
It’s a pretty straight forward system. Could easily be made to work on just about anything.
@pasta1939
@pasta1939 10 ай бұрын
They filter out rust eh? Thats the only thing i could think of because coolant is basically just glycol and water
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Corrosion products and any left over casting sand that might be in the block/heads or any other replacement parts that interface with the cooling system.
@davidblalock9945
@davidblalock9945 10 ай бұрын
If, on the day you buy it, you have the engine properly flushed and prepped, and filled with Evens Waterless Coolant, you likely won’t need one of them.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
You don’t need one of them regardless. They offer benefits, but they aren’t a necessity. You’re trading a $200 filter system that you don’t need for $400 worth of high end coolant that you also don’t need. The most economical way to get the job done is the way it is already done. Just change the coolant at the specified interval. Of course, very few people ever do that. Most coolant in vehicles is what was installed at the factory, and doesn’t get changed until something in the coolant system fails. I’m not doubting the usefulness of waterless coolant, it’s just not practical in most applications.
@chriss6154
@chriss6154 10 ай бұрын
Does it effect the flow. I mean hauling up a long hill ur system is already taxed. Do a delta P test install guage before and after inline
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
It’s just a bypass filter. Doesn’t inhibit the flow.
@dariessumler7557
@dariessumler7557 10 ай бұрын
I read cooant filter is menditory in diesel engine to prevent cavitation
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
No. Proper coolant chemistry will prevent cavitation. The filter provides a convenient way to time release additives into the coolant chemistry to maintain the chemistry. Newer extended life coolants don’t really need that.
@bman6502
@bman6502 10 ай бұрын
Manufacture don’t install them because they become another maintenance item and the risk of not having it during the warranty period is not high.. it’s the same thing with oil catch cans. I installed one on my 2019 raptor and I catch a fair amount of fluid..
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Manufacturers don't install them because they really aren't needed.
@lejoshmont2093
@lejoshmont2093 10 ай бұрын
I could have told you from flushing my own high mileage vehicle that it would capture sediment. My vehicle manufacturer doesn't recommend flushing only drain and fills.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
This one was flushed before adding the filter. It still caught a little.
@OscarRodriguez-yv9vn
@OscarRodriguez-yv9vn 10 ай бұрын
Is it an engine cooler or engine oil filter.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
It’s an engine coolant filter
@A_barrel
@A_barrel 10 ай бұрын
Does this put strain on the water pump?
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
No. It’s a bypass filter. A full flow coolant filter would need to be the size of a 55 gallon drum. 👍
@johnmcadaragh694
@johnmcadaragh694 10 ай бұрын
A suckers born everyday. You can sell anything to diesel guys for insane amount of money.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Never said it was needed. In fact, I specifically stated “I’m not saying you need one”. Just stated that it does capture contaminates 🤷🏻‍♂️
@dk832002
@dk832002 10 ай бұрын
They arnt actually a filter, the add a chemical into the coolant to reduce cavitation in the cooling jackets around the cylinders
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
This has no chemicals, it’s only a filter. For filtering. Here is a patent from Baldwin 🤷🏻‍♂️ patents.google.com/patent/US5948248A/en
@0-60STYLE
@0-60STYLE 10 ай бұрын
Is that a filter opening tool?
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Yep. amzn.to/469AoWU
@timblackburne77
@timblackburne77 10 ай бұрын
Please explain to me why you need to remove "contaminants" from the cooling system with a filter? Coolant requires changing every few years, and the system gets flushed out at that time. All it does is cool the engine and stop corrosion. Particles floating around in it will harm absolutely nothing. Admittedly, I work on cars, but I have never seen a coolant filter on one in Australia in nearly 30 years.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Never said you needed a filter. In fact, I specifically stated “I’m not saying you need one” in the video. This trick has been flushed multiple times and still had contaminants in it. Are they harming anything? Probably not. But coolant filtration has been around for decades. They use them on boats with anodes in them to prevent electrolysis issues. They use them on diesels with chemical additives to prevent cylinder liner cavitation that results from coolant additive package depletion. And some just just filter, like this one. They don’t get incorporated into new equipment like they used to, because extended life coolants don’t need the additives like they used to, so the filtration aspect generally doesn’t provide enough benefit to outweigh the cost of installing and maintaining a coolant filtration system. But it’s kinda like changing the gear oil in a boats lower unit every year. The oil isn’t bad, you just do it to see if it’s getting water in it. Most people only see the condition of their coolant when they change the filter. And that’s when you can identify a small problem before it becomes a big problem. I.E. oil or fuel in the coolant.
@ericnorteman5341
@ericnorteman5341 10 ай бұрын
Why are you running dexicool and not green from factory?
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
This isn't Dexcool. It's Rotella ELC.
@williamrigby4805
@williamrigby4805 10 ай бұрын
Seems like if you're replacing the coolant at the proper interval then this really wouldn't be necessary.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
It’s not necessary 👍
@thndr_5468
@thndr_5468 10 ай бұрын
Never even knew these existed before now
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
They are generally found on larger diesel trucks and diesel equipment.
@thndr_5468
@thndr_5468 10 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx I feel like this should be more common but I guess since coolant lasts alng time they didn't see it as necessary
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
They aren't necessary. They provide a way to get additives into the coolant also, or at least they used to. Newer coolants don't really need that.
@Lance57H
@Lance57H 10 ай бұрын
Not trying to be a smart ass and I am actually being serious, how does contaminants get into coolent? It's a closed system that is capable of containing some amount of pressure, so how does coolent get dirty? I've replaced it on multiple applications and vehicles and I've never seen perfect coolent come out unless it was recently replaced.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Well a lot of it is just contaminants that have been there since manufacture. The rest is generally corrosion products from surfaces inside the cooling system. Flushing is sufficient, but it's probably never going to be 100% effective at removing all contaminants. Particle are going to settle out and not make it out of the drain holes. That being said. It's not crucial that the coolant be perfectly clean, filters are really a necessity.
@natewatt3537
@natewatt3537 9 ай бұрын
I use to make those filters
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 ай бұрын
Keeping it Clean 😎👍
@masjuggalo
@masjuggalo 10 ай бұрын
I don't doubt that it works, but does it work better than doing a coolant flush regularly?
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Nope. You’d be better off just flushing the coolant. Unfortunately most folks don’t even know that’s a regular maintenance item. Of course, they probably wouldn’t change the filter either if they had that option. I’m maintenance OCD and I left it on there for 3 years 😂
@nato7924
@nato7924 10 ай бұрын
Rather than moosh it together you might want rollers like an old timey washing machine
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
The vice works well if you use both hands instead of trying to hold a camera. Also helps the test the media into more than one piece so that it isn’t so thick to start with. A roller would also work though 👍
@3v4761
@3v4761 10 ай бұрын
I'm more interested in that can opener....
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
For those big jobs! amzn.to/46y6xrC
@ch-ir8ld
@ch-ir8ld 10 ай бұрын
Bert Kreisher works on cars now?! At least he gave up the comedy gig
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
Burnt Chrysler 🤓
@Roberto-gp3yx
@Roberto-gp3yx 10 ай бұрын
For such reason it’s important to do a coolant flush… depending on the driving habits of a car owner it can be once a year flush Once every two years But never run the same coolant for a long period of time Just like all the other fluids in the vehicle it looses it’s ability to do it’s job
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
This is extended life coolant. It’s been in there for 5 years. I’ll probably consider a drain and fill in about 5 more years 😉
@Roberto-gp3yx
@Roberto-gp3yx 10 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx That’s great But it might be over once a year but if a person drives 50k+ miles annually or has a fleet of vehicles my suggestion is once a year flush out the coolant and any other liquids (brake fluid/transmission/ rear axle etc) This is the type of maintenance I’ve done on my vehicles and they are still running like new
@RadDadisRad
@RadDadisRad 10 ай бұрын
I drain flush refill thermostat and cap. I don’t see the benefit of a sediment filter. If I’m doing that every year before fall.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
They aren’t needed. They provide very limited utility in most applications.
@xESPplayer500x
@xESPplayer500x 10 ай бұрын
Very cool no i want to install one somewhere on my line
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
They aren't really necessary. They do provide some benefit, but not necessary.
@donroose7676
@donroose7676 10 ай бұрын
Are those contaminants or properties of the coolant being captured? How would paper discriminate between contaminants and properties?
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
It's a 50 Micron Filter (0.002"). That's not going to capture any of the actual additives in the coolant..
@donroose7676
@donroose7676 10 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx good information I did not get from the video. 50 microns will not capture any additive in virgin coolant but I don’t know if this is a need release or SCA system or the maximum size of their contribution.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 ай бұрын
This is ELC, so this filter has no additives.
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