Do Flat Pedals Win Medals? | Clips Vs. Flats

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8 жыл бұрын

In light of Sam Hills recent performances abroad his signature flat pedal set up amongst the best riders in the world all using clips we decide to revisit our clips vs flats test with a steep edition...
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Clips Vs. Flats is a very old argument with both having their pro and cons on different lengths of riding and types of terrain... How will they fair on what Scott says is the steepest EWS stage he's ever ridden...
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@SkillsWithPhil 8 жыл бұрын

When you do two runs down a trail, don't be surprised that your second run is faster. While I like testing this idea, a real test with a bigger sample size is needed to come to any sort of real conclusion.

@gmbn 8 жыл бұрын

Hi Phil, We'd already done a number of runs to film, shoot and ride. The times were taken after 5 runs then the 6th on the tracks... I don't generally ride flat pedals and this was my first time in 6 months so I think in some sense and very interestingly the results do speak for themselves. We've got some more ideas on testing them both so watch this space! Surprised that on the climb there was nothing in it! Cheers, Scott

@SkillsWithPhil 8 жыл бұрын

Global Mountain Bike Network I take my comment back, looks like did you due diligence haha! Thanks for the reply, look forward to future tests.

@Ben-um4tq 6 жыл бұрын

Interesting, good stuff!

@hunter_really 6 жыл бұрын

They couldn't have gotten so much footage with just two runs

@ndrsg3013 5 жыл бұрын

He should be slower on the second run, since it's is the same person doing a second run... Flat pedals gives you more confidence on certain tracks, specially when dry and fast like this one...Guess WHY many DH riders use flat, aka go home safe...

@elieppolito8416 8 жыл бұрын

Going no pedals will save on weight and you won't lose that much efficiency

@trevor42699 8 жыл бұрын

Yeah you can just keep your feet on the chainstays

@trevor42699 8 жыл бұрын

+kangsterizer If you are going that far you could also lose the handlebars, shifters, and brakes. Think about the speed!

@tmfrs2 8 жыл бұрын

+Trevor Patrick we all know that the body of the bike can be removed too, Max efficiency

@ThisGuyRides 8 жыл бұрын

Just hold the front wheel with your hands and back wheel with your feet, and roll down.

@2409markus 8 жыл бұрын

I've also heard rumours that the best riders in tdf just spare their whole bike when going uphill

@wallacedavidg 8 жыл бұрын

Love your sound effects as you revved your motor at the start of the flat pedal run. Was that a two-stroke engine?

@ScottyLaughland 8 жыл бұрын

Mixing gas and haulin' ass!

@jameswhittington599 8 жыл бұрын

+tom rafter haha

@mikcute9510 8 жыл бұрын

i loved when he suddenly became a 2-stroke engine 😂

@Hawlkeye-e9p 7 жыл бұрын

aww you loved his baby sounds he made with his lips. well...isnt that just precious. thats fantastic maybe now we can have cradle to grave transparence with a high lvl of cadence. fkn nancy mann up

@EviEvolved 7 жыл бұрын

Lucas Kennedy dude, calm down, yeah he's a dick but don't say shit like that

@Daz555Daz 8 жыл бұрын

As I'm not racing I don't care about flat v clip performance - all I care about is ability to chuck the bike away when all goes wrong at high speed - flats win for me on that count alone.

@andrewmayer2443 6 жыл бұрын

Daz555Daz absolutely. I eat shit a lot and it wouldn’t help if my feet were attached to a 30 pound piece of metal with a ton of momentum.

@mysterymete 6 жыл бұрын

Stop outrunning your skill so often and eating shit so much, and you'll appreciate the control awarded by clipless. Flats are great. Clipless is better 99.9995% of the time.

@owca6666 5 жыл бұрын

@@mysterymete flats inspire confidence way more than clips, and you learn more by riding flat pedals. Doing bunny hops with clipless is piss easy, not so much on flats.

@mysterymete 5 жыл бұрын

It doesn't take much confidence to do bunny hops...

@owca6666 5 жыл бұрын

@@mysterymete youre taking it out of context, flats inspire confidence on technical terrain more than clips because you mentally know if something goes wrong you can bail instantly.

@michaelbarnett2077 8 жыл бұрын

These tests don't really prove much. The laboratory test was probably a bit better. I ride flats, I don't race, I don't follow trends, I still have 26" wheels and I still rock a full face not "enduro" helmet. Flats or clips just fucking ride.

@asod187 8 жыл бұрын

Comment of the day!

@unavailable352 8 жыл бұрын

maybe some people care or are just curious which is better? you don't have to be so ignorant

@CrazyCyclingVlogger 8 жыл бұрын

What would they make videos about then?

@dylanfluker 8 жыл бұрын

Yeah, do whatever you enjoy

@Thormodo 8 жыл бұрын

These videos aren't meant to be conclusive. At best they give some insight into the difference between Clip-less and Flats. At worst, they show nice footage of Scott shredding a track while making motor biking sounds :).

@brandonperez2267 7 жыл бұрын

Coming from BMX street where pure bike control is valued above anything. I can say that riding flats will increase bike control exponentially. A lot of BMX street riders use plastic pedals without pins and some how manage to stay on the bike through massive impacts with no suspension. When you learn to really feel the bike and anticipate it's movements you make adjustments without thinking about it and you can ride with awkward foot position at times. If you are always locked into the same position without variation it can limit the amount of control you have in any given situation.

@enismabrouk8202 7 жыл бұрын

Ahh sweet redemption! I used to race XC and DH with flats back in the nineties when clipless pedals reigned supreme and no one even considered flats an option, the big debate back then was clipped vs clipless. People would look at me like I had lost my mind when I would show up on my flats wearing Vans for a race, yet I would regularly podium. The thing is as you get used to riding flats you get really good at keeping you feet glued to them and even though if you're used to clipless pedals you can get your foot out pretty quick for a dab, on flats you can dab and have your foot back on the pedal in a split-second. It's also a myth that you can't pull up on your back foot with flats, maybe not quite as efficiently as clipless but you totally can.

@viarix06 8 жыл бұрын

As a bike guide who regularly teaches beginners, I swear by flats. Obviously for beginners but for myself as well, the idea that you and the bike are two different things working together gets lost when riding clips. Having your feet locked in a position where you can't rotate their position makes the bike so much less maneuverable when leaning the bike into corners. Obviously they are more efficient when climbing but with the right pedal-shoe combo I can get just as much upwards pull out of my flats

@tweed0929 8 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I'm experienced myself... on the road bike (surprise). I can't control the bike the way I like for shit with clips, because I'm used to let the bike do the job 50% of time. I'm spinning the pedals, setting the direction by turning the bars or leaning and controling the line by using the centre of gravity. Everything else does my bike. As two different physical objects, we work together in synergy. Those little movements on flats when the leg seeks for better position at this given sector of the road are priceless. When I'm clipped in, the steering becomes a pain in the ass.

@robthesamplist 7 жыл бұрын

I agree, the amount of injuries I've heard about due to lipless is insane, I tried them for about 4 months and got used to them but never felt safe at junctions with cars or steep sections next to drop offs. Flats just give me more confidence in all scenarios and I feel I wont break my hip or collarbone if I come off like many people do with clipless.

@DSilsbury 7 жыл бұрын

I keep falling with clips, and when I fall with clips I end up breaking a rib or dragging the bike down a slope with me. Flats all the way.

@pizzapie4me 7 жыл бұрын

Bobby Dazzler I'm the opposite. Can't control my bike with flats for shit. That said, I've never not ridden with SPDs... 🤷

@mysterymete 6 жыл бұрын

If you can't remember that you're riding clipped in, then you probably shouldn't be riding ... or driving ... or breathing.

@Quicksilver_Cookie 5 жыл бұрын

@@mysterymete When you are crashing, and in that last split second that you know you're about to hit the ground lots of things go through your head. Even if you are experienced with clipless you simply might not have time or even physically unable to unclip while you are crashing.

@mysterymete 5 жыл бұрын

If you don't have the time or ability to unclip, you don't have the time or ability to bail, either. I respect your differing opinions. ...Just offering my own.

@christocr 4 жыл бұрын

@@mysterymete Sometimes you can't UN-forget you're riding clipped in... which causes you to ride like a timid granny because you know if you fuck up you are going to be the meat in a sandwich between a rock garden on bottom and a 30 pound bike on top. That said, I do ride clipped in a lot, but not on really technical stuff. Flat/clip combination pedals are a pretty decent alternative to be able to ride either way without swapping pedals. Of course, they can also be a pain in the ass at times as well.

@bedsidecabinet1 8 жыл бұрын

New riders should learn with flat pedals and a hardtail, it will improve your bike handling no end.

@robthesamplist 7 жыл бұрын

But many people win competitions without clipless so I say why even bother doing clipless. Its just a gimmick to be honest to make you buy the shoes and pedals. Slightly more efficient maybe but the amount of people that hurt themselves with clipless outweighs the efficiency for me to tell people they are good. In road cycling yes but even then the deaths and injuries caused by clipless is insane.

@dinoXAs2 7 жыл бұрын

Is there any statics by these accidents. I use flats too but im interested about this.

@humushumor6436 6 жыл бұрын

that's an advice!

@moncier77 6 жыл бұрын

That’s how I’m learning

@BassSwirls 5 жыл бұрын

Been riding spd near all my mtb days since the early 90's... my right knee was playing up but got better with more saddle time wearing spds. Anyway been out a few times on platforms and hey bingo my knee hurt when peddling ... back in spds and we're good again. ...

@cup_and_cone 8 жыл бұрын

I've forwarded this video to Aaron Gwin so he can save four seconds next world cup.

@SsmAnyfeSt 8 жыл бұрын

hahaha

@velo1337 8 жыл бұрын

well he doesnt even need a chain, prolly can ride without suspension too

@topoluc12 8 жыл бұрын

+velo1337 He can probably do it without a back wheel too

@sean0611 6 жыл бұрын

He could probably even do it without a bike

@stefansimion4252 6 жыл бұрын

What would happen to Danny Hart then

@patton1977 8 жыл бұрын

Flats for the win, clips make sense with Road bikes but flats all the way for MTB

@VntaBlxck 8 жыл бұрын

For sure, i would have eaten so much shit if i rode the trails i ride with clips

@jayireland2526 8 жыл бұрын

+Matthew Murphy same here

@CyclingSalmon14 8 жыл бұрын

+Jay MTB I'm a SS rider so agree 100% but hate clips even in the road bike...ky club Kate's give me shit for the efficiency lol but I have zero interest in clips despite having tried them many times.

@navarredr 8 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. I have ridden both and have switched back to flats exclusively for MTB.

@VntaBlxck 8 жыл бұрын

I would take not severely hurting myself over efficiency, and more back wheel mobility any day. I have used clips before but I dont get as much confident as I do with flats, especial when it comes to wheelies and the fact that my bunny hops are higher with flats go figure.

@PeterDietrich 8 жыл бұрын

Topic aside, this was the first video where I smiled and thought "Hey, seems Scott is starting to be cool after all" Super Nice!

@potsu2001 8 жыл бұрын

CONGRATULATIONS ON 300,000 SUBSCRIBES GMBN!!!!

@latuman 8 жыл бұрын

It just makes sense. If you know you can bail super easily, you can take more risks. I'm starting to regret my clip choice, but I'm not quitting just yet.

@noweyout4855 8 жыл бұрын

I just recently switched from flats to clips and I'm still trying to get used to it. My last ride was great cause I was getting close to how I ride with flats. I'm not giving up either. Keep at it

@sultanabran1 8 жыл бұрын

i can bail out of clips as fast as i can on flats. i've never fallen over in a trail, by not getting my foot out. but, whatever you're comfortable with.

@ArnoldsKtm 7 жыл бұрын

This channel is a gift to bike riders. I just want to express how great your production value and information telling is.

@noahschuerholz7757 8 жыл бұрын

300k!!! Congratulations!!🔥🔥🔥

@BlakeRountreeMedia 8 жыл бұрын

Congrats on 300k Subs GMBN!

@letsgocamping88 8 жыл бұрын

When it gets real bumpy and you bounce off your pedal and the pins drag up your shin.

@BrotherSabathius 8 жыл бұрын

Been there, done that, still got the scar. I still prefer flats on the MTB tho..

@bryanhargis7229 8 жыл бұрын

Try standing up in rough secetions and your feet won't come off.

@letsgocamping88 8 жыл бұрын

+Bryan Hargis you can stand up while riding???

@bryanhargis7229 7 жыл бұрын

Benjamin Harvey Yea I'm tricky like that!

@coconuts623 7 жыл бұрын

I prefer pedal impacts to the shin rather than crashing while still clipped in...

@tiertier1624 8 жыл бұрын

Well done Scott! Your best video so far. Loved it!

@theadsheep 8 жыл бұрын

The question is more like: Are you faster on your first or on your second run on a new track? The answer is in the video.

@panzerveps 8 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly...

@WIPEYOURLENZ 8 жыл бұрын

Also fatigue

@benredge2696 8 жыл бұрын

obviously its not his first time on the track , he did test runs before hand and you would be pretty stupid to blitz down a track like that blind. congrats to Neil on Lucas!

@WIPEYOURLENZ 8 жыл бұрын

So even more fatigue to affect the time.

@ScottyLaughland 8 жыл бұрын

Yes you do make a valid point however have you ever tried to learn and become familiar with a 8 minutes? Fatigue might come into play but the flats were still faster regardless and... in the last 3 years I've probably ridden flats 10 X as opposed to every ride and race on clips. Many variables to take into account but one thing is for sure that you can be looser on flat pedals!!!

@ryangibson5577 8 жыл бұрын

loving the "edit" vibe on this one guys! keep up the good work! Brraaappp!!!

@ironore8677 8 жыл бұрын

I get a kick out of you guys. Every video you do with flats vs clips testing flats have won out and proved to be as efficient or more, and now faster. Then at the end you say does this mean I'll be switching to flats? "Well no, clips are just a little more efficient". It's like you don't believe your own test. Just say that you prefer clipping in! GBN did a similar test on the treadmill as you guys with same results! I don't care what anyone rides but myself and I'm not saying anyone that likes clips should switch to flats. But stop proving one thing only to finish the test with your personal opinion that clips are still faster.

@John_D2 8 жыл бұрын

TRUE.

@deecarter1059 8 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@Alan_Hans__ 8 жыл бұрын

If you're faster through a stage by 1s per minute then the perceived efficiency gain of the clips could be eclipsed.

@michaelkemp1097 8 жыл бұрын

It makes sense that clips would be slightly more efficient because they allow you to pull the pedal back up, so unlike a flat you are not only pushing down and you are able to utilize all of the muscles in your legs. But to be quite honest, why worry about it, just ride whatever is comfortable.

@silviuvirgil12 7 жыл бұрын

I think I saw in some article that one does not actually ever pull on the pedals, even if clipped in. I would guess the advantage comes from less effort staying on the pedals and also the ability to move the bike around easier.

@jordanracing1475 8 жыл бұрын

GMBN your videos are awesome they are the reason I got into mountain biking I love your how to videos they have helped me progress in riding but most of the skills are very similar to dirt bike cross country racing which is what I grew up doing but believe it or not they are both equally tiring thanks for your help and keep making videos

@martinedelius 8 жыл бұрын

This was some great riding and also great footage of said riding!

@johnrobertsart 8 жыл бұрын

that song during the flat pedal descent was killer

@anunez6092 8 жыл бұрын

Great comparison video. As new to riding I Love my DMR V6 flat pedals and at 327g they are than enough for my mountain bike

@Rocheadm 7 жыл бұрын

Do a vid on specific downhill flat vs clips plz. I had trouble going from my beloved clips to flats... It Was tourture!

@peregrina7701 8 жыл бұрын

whoever filmed this, nice job - some fun angles that I don't usually see on GMBN. Dead heat on the climb between clips and flats. Hmmm..... I agree, we need another test! (I'm sure you're heartbroken about that too Scotty!!! :p )

@bkershaccount 8 жыл бұрын

this course looks so beautiful and amazing to ride.

@ptjmwjpag 4 жыл бұрын

Hi, I used them both, for many years the hooks in xc and only for two years the flat and I must say that the flat offer more. They have often saved me from falls, forward tipping or sudden wheels slipping, with extreme ease of repositioning the foot on the pedal.

@ricofiori3327 7 жыл бұрын

The problem I have with flat pedals, I'm too used to pulling up with clipless pedals on both road and mountain bikes. Flat pedals contributed to me straining my hamstring.

@winyettyu 8 жыл бұрын

1 week after i bought my first clip pedal, I had to throw away all of my flat ones, it felt sooo good to me, especally on uphill sprints. i just love them and feel safer on them than on flats. clipping out is never a problem i coud do it after 2 days without thinking about it. I tried Crank Brothers once, but I love Shimano much better. easier both clipping in and out...

@SkeleTele 7 жыл бұрын

I meet some buddies for a ride last weekend and I had forgotten my clipless shoes so my buddie lent me his extra set of flats. I've been riding clipless for over 6 years now, maybe more needless to say I went out and bought a set of flats after the ride. I instantly felt more connected to the bike. and was able to through her around more. I loved the feeling I had and was able to lower my center of gravity a wee bit as well.

@jamiehamilton3253 8 жыл бұрын

started riding clipped 22yrs ago and have been riding flats for 10yrs now. I for one will never go back to clips! Flats will make you a better rider braaap!

@rigorhead01 8 жыл бұрын

Scott is fast!! I don't think pedal choice makes a huge difference. I think the pros use clipless just to give them that extra edge, but for 99% of people there's not a considerable difference. I've been using clipless for about 6 months, but have recently gone back to flats(Saint pedals and FiveTen shoes). Good pedals and shoes are almost like clipless- best of both worlds.

@ebbs0000 8 жыл бұрын

this is true even on road bikes

@FearOmnicide 8 жыл бұрын

+ebbs baj you're not pedaling as much on a mtb compared to a road bike so pedaling efficiency isn't as important.

@tiertier1624 8 жыл бұрын

Same here. After 10 years or so, Iv'e gone back to flats (Nukeproof and Five Tens) for the last month and it's awesome! You can rip into corners knowing you can dab if need be. A good set of flats and shoes are almost like riding clips anyway. If I'm doing a long, flat gravel trail I might stick the clips back on but at the moment, that's about it.

@FearOmnicide 8 жыл бұрын

+Bungle2010 this is also true

@krnlhkr 8 жыл бұрын

Love my FiveTens. They work great with flats.

@kmariechapman8282 6 жыл бұрын

This type of testing is subject to repeat effects. The 8second difference could just be the rider being more comfortable with the track. you need to do it again multiple times and take an average to account for other variables.

@nodrogger796 8 жыл бұрын

Hmm, interesting- I've been toying with the idea of clipping in recently, so found this video really insightful. One question though: Had you ridden the trail before? Could the faster time have been down to the little bit of track knowledge you picked up clipped in on first run? Cheers!

@mateuszzdyb3547 8 жыл бұрын

we have learnt that second run is always faster because you are more familiar with the route.

@gmbn 8 жыл бұрын

Timed on runs 5 then 6! Style of riding and how aggresive I was on the bike did too...

@francescofranzoni4620 7 жыл бұрын

Global Mountain Bike Network to tiff,t

@raoul_s7667 8 жыл бұрын

these videos are getting better and better also scottys jokes :D

@aljazbogataj3490 8 жыл бұрын

I would really love to see different tire compound versus episode :)...anyway great video!!

@gmbn 8 жыл бұрын

Tyre pressure coming soon!

@fingerflixguitar 8 жыл бұрын

did my first enduro race today, it was good apart from falling off and getting hurt, never mind there is plenty of time for other races :)

@Tommy-qm8um 8 жыл бұрын

Forsure more tests!!!

@moncier77 4 жыл бұрын

My experiences...I’ve ridden both for years. I feel safer with flats on very technical trails but being clipped in is fun on flow trails

@racerzh 8 жыл бұрын

Nice video, i really like like the Mallet e but sometimes i really have problems to get out of them, when i have to unclip both sides at same time to jump of my bike, any inputs on this? Or a video on how to unclip fast on both at the same time??

@BWT599 4 жыл бұрын

I’m on a marathon watching clipless vs flats videos in 2020. I think I need to switch to flats just to build my skills. Current set up is Time Speciale 12 with Ride Concept Transition shoes on a Santa Cruz 5010 v3. If I ever bumped into the 5001 crew, they would persuade me to go flats everyday!

@riccardocervetti3203 8 жыл бұрын

you guys are sooo close to 300k

@gregorferguson7018 7 жыл бұрын

That edit was sick. Wish I could thumbs up twice

@solobellimino2356 8 жыл бұрын

it's all about comfort. once you get use to clipless, you don't think about it. clipless on trails and commute, flats for when am fucking around trying to do wheelies, manuals, endos etc.

@Multiskidor 8 жыл бұрын

I have never seen Scott this happy

@0Myles0 7 жыл бұрын

I've used both kinds of pedals a lot. They are both fantastic in their own ways. One thing I don't like about clip-ins is the mechanical feel. Our knees and ankles aren't perfectly square bending, and I've noticed joint fatigue with clip-in pedals.

@vivoslibertos 8 жыл бұрын

Your riding is amazing it's so fluid to the point it looks easy slow motion like but I know you're fast. Remind me of Fabien Barrel :D

@gmbn 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Nice comment to read...

@tamaskovacs4949 2 жыл бұрын

Whichever you master, makes you comfortable and confident will be quicker imo. I personally used clips in the 90s and that was good. Then SPD was a game changer to me in the 2000s. Now I am back riding after 10+ years again and some people said flats are the “new” cool 🤷‍♂️ To me it is still hard to use flats, I just simply not comfortable with it. If I spend the same amount of time on both, I’ll probably be still quicker on SPD only because that feels more comfortable. Personal preference imo, it is good to ride both and see which work better for You. But hey, I am not a pro rider 🙂

@ringothepup 8 жыл бұрын

Those off-camber roots though. Fierce. Scotty's definitely got all the skills. Props

@DavidBrownFan 8 жыл бұрын

Hey guys! What multi tool was that your were using at the start to put on the crank brothers flat pedals? Cheers and great video! Daragh

@arminvincon2465 8 жыл бұрын

I believe that is the Topeak Urban 8 ;)

@aminrazawan482 5 жыл бұрын

It was topeak tool set.

@wiibasslife 6 жыл бұрын

Of course whatever you find most comfortable is best. On long climbs clips are awesome, being able to get smooth pedal rotation by using your upstroke makes climbs much faster- for me that is

@192BMX 6 жыл бұрын

I raced on clips for bmx for about 15 years, clips on the road and flats for mountain biking. I just have a lot more fun on flats than clips on the mountain. But it all comes down to what you’re comfortable with and how you want to ride.

@rogerarmendariz3810 7 жыл бұрын

Part 2 coming soon?

@ekis18 7 жыл бұрын

Based on flat pedal characteristics (footprint, weight, cost, etc) I'm deciding whether to get the VMR Vaults or the Crank Brothers Stamp L...which one would you recommend and why?

@Quatra05 8 жыл бұрын

Brilliant!

@migatron1 8 жыл бұрын

Scotty that motocross sfx was faf x¬D

@sawtoothscream1521 7 жыл бұрын

ordered some flats a few days ago. doing my own tests on the local trails and see which im faster with. Really like my clips but will be better to learn on the flats i think

@snowleopard6566 8 жыл бұрын

Nice watch! A little off-topic question but what manufacturer and model is it?

@adriamr_8 8 жыл бұрын

I think that is more important to choise your pedals for confidence than for time

@kosgein 7 жыл бұрын

Great video!!!! I am ridding flats ;)

@Endrushmi 8 жыл бұрын

i was looking at the pins...you went biking in the middle of Greenland?!

@TehRamenBrotherz 8 жыл бұрын

clipless is more efficient, but your seat would be down for a downhill, so pedaling efficency is thrown out the window at that point, I feel thats what made the difference

@elon9849 8 жыл бұрын

GMBN has made a video where they compare saddle heights in a labor. The result showed that it does not affect you.

@ezlorenzo 8 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

@hogdog567 7 жыл бұрын

It's amazing how many people who rubbish clipless pedals (yes, that's what they're called) have never ridden them.

@DarkpowderUK 8 жыл бұрын

A more interesting variation could be Shimano SPD clipless (less float) vs. "Crank Bros." style pedals, which can be highly variable from multi-sided (4 or 2). As we know the former is favoured by Epic racers, XC racers (XT/XTR pedal users) vs. More downhill oriented riders (crank). Overall for me, clipless (SPD or Crank) is perceptively better for maintaining a "consistent" power delivery around the whole revolution of the crank, great to avoid the "stamping" up hills tendency that is easy to get into with flats. There is always a learning curve, but if you love getting into that smooth flow on trails or all day riding, ask a friend to borrow their spare shoes and pedals for a few weeks and learn what it's like to not ever want to put a foot down again.

@petergriffin4629 4 жыл бұрын

I ride a hardtail and the trails here where I live are super rooty. I am not good by any standard, which is why I am obviously way more comfortable and confident with flat pedals. But from time to time I like to throw on my classic SPD clip pedals, just cause without the rear suspension, I am constantly adjusting my foot position, cause even with really long and sharp studs on my pedals, my feet just get vibrated out of position.

@jackschreuder5657 7 жыл бұрын

im getting a pair of funn python pedals should i bother getting proper f=mtb shoes or should i stich with the old dc shoes i have been using

@calmandcoldblood 8 жыл бұрын

Great video! I feel much more confident with clips on jumps and drops, and you guys?

@gmbn 8 жыл бұрын

It is a valid point, make sure however you don't become too reliant on your clips to jump and hop though!

@normanzielke6108 6 жыл бұрын

What kind of multi-tools did you use for changing the pedals? Looks strong and compact at the same time...

@elon9849 8 жыл бұрын

2:40 You know a rider means businesses when he starts like that!

@erwinvdb7654 7 жыл бұрын

What's the brand and type of the shoe you are wearing while using clip pedals? They look really nice and able to walk on instead of most clip shoes. Thanks in advance!

@JonMiles 8 жыл бұрын

what have we learnt? that you're faster on your second run than your first! this test needs to be done on two stages with one pedal going first on one stage and the other going first on the next. The time on the climb is interesting but it could just be down to using the same technique for both pedals and not taking advantage of the clips..... Despite all the above.... Flats for the win in my book! :P

@jimmyisananimal 8 жыл бұрын

Nice soundtrack.

@TommyHuynh 7 жыл бұрын

I don't even own a pair of clips, I have Twenty 6 Predators on my DH bike and Hopes on my Enduro bike. Get good set of flats and a pair of five tens and you're good to go!

@christopherrscott 8 жыл бұрын

HI GMBN can you please make a video on how to reduce chain slap please

@bullerbusch 8 жыл бұрын

Hi Gmbn. I love your channel, and therefore i would love to buy some GMBN stickers, to put on my brand new Canyon Spectral. Cheers from Denmark!

@oscari.banuelos5966 6 жыл бұрын

Your saddle is sick! Anyone know the make & model?

@wes3527 8 жыл бұрын

I am not even close to being pro but I use clips for certain trials that are less technical with more climbs and easy downhills and flats on the more technical trails. I like being able to take my foot off the pedal quickly with flats but the clips for me are quicker on climbs. My local trails are all up and down and I spend more time going uphill than down. I thinks its all what you're the most comfortable with

@marcchoo6254 8 жыл бұрын

+Sean Bolden do you use shoes made for flat pedals? those shoes make flats significantly better

@luigiperilli9791 7 жыл бұрын

which kind of 5 ten shoes are you using for flats and clipless?

@dayleclarke4433 8 жыл бұрын

It's like MotoGP this year: they have wings I have to have them. Everyone uses them in MTB because they don't want to feel like they're missing out. Unless you really can't stand them you're going to use them.

@ajgreanya6936 7 жыл бұрын

It 100% depends on preference... But none the less, still and awesome video

@williamvangorden44 7 жыл бұрын

that what I'm looking to do I see nothing wrong with it .it is for me more clearance than anything.love the Weider platform.

@mightybashing4457 8 жыл бұрын

Its all about personal preference, i use flats just because it feels safer to bail from the bike if needed atleast for me, so yeah personal preferance. also that was a nice course wish i was living close to that ;D

@kareemabes3311 8 жыл бұрын

Question - wouldn't you tend to do better the 2nd time around regardless because you've gotten familiar with the track after the 1st lap?

@alexpopescu1817 8 жыл бұрын

Where i can buy a pear of flat pedals like your plz link

@xXGeekSquadXx5 8 жыл бұрын

I love how clipless pedals benefit me on a straight section of trail but I hate going into turns

@THX..1138 8 жыл бұрын

You don't see Motocross or BMX riders clipping their feet to bike. I think it's pretty simple with your feet clipped to pedals it limits your ability to shift your center of gravity which is what you're doing when you throw your leg out. So the tighter the terrain the greater the advantage to flats over clips. If you think about it clips were invented for road bikes who's courses are paved with no jumps or tight turns. Being securely locked on to the pedal is a good thing on a road bike.

@blakeranalla2689 8 жыл бұрын

I just started mtn biking and I'm second on my team only behind someone who has been riding for over 4 years and he uses flat pedal which do you think is better?

@Follooo11 8 жыл бұрын

I an thinking of buying THOSE crankbrothers flat pedals you've using in this video. Are they worth the price? Going to be on a Canyon Nerve AL 7.9

@gmbn 8 жыл бұрын

Yeah they are sick, great platform size and loads of grip!

@ADVtheMISSIONARY 8 жыл бұрын

i am glad that Scotty made Two Stroke engine noises....because everyone know more than two strokes and its a W***! :P

@cosmindinsu4897 8 жыл бұрын

i would say that clips are more for straight runs because in curves u need to unclip and if the trail has many, close to eachother curves you need to stay unclipped so flats are better for difficult trails, bmx, and street biking but its all to what you like anyways

@annas.2387 8 жыл бұрын

Scotty's next enduro video--two-stroke vs four-stroke? (I think he might be a bit biased though...)

@justinsblack 8 жыл бұрын

Track familiarity has to come into play. The only way to properly test that would be to have another individual ride with flats first, followed by clips. Then compare the two differences. One users experience doesn't mean anything.