In the old days, here in the UK, we always pulled in the clutch lever when starting a bike with the old Brit bikes. And 40 yrs later, it's still my habit no matter what bike I ride. :)

There is a fix for the gear indicator problem , take off the front sprocket cover you will see the gear sensor , undo the black electrical tape to expose the connectors unplug them undo the sensor (14mm) remove the washer and screw it back in reconnect wires new electrical tape and bolt sprocket cover back on , and enjoy

Chase said it well about CFMOTO... they're about 85-90% the quality of the proven Japanese brands. And you get a discount to offset that difference. 2nd year with my CFMOTO Ibex 800T and I love it.

The people who hate CFmoto are the same people who would cream their pants if the logo said honda or kawasaki.

Perfect review!! I have an absolute 50/50 love/hate relationship with this thing. I’ll try and get my video on it finished this week!

I picked up a 2023 for $6k otd with 1mile back in March. I have around 4500 miles on it now. The 2023 and up has three rider modes. They added off-road mode in which you can turn off rear ABS as well as adding a button to turn off traction control in any rider mode. I haven't had the gear indicator/cruise issue yet. Seems to be a bigger problem with the first gen models. I really really have enjoyed the bike so far through daily commuting and lots of hard twisties riding out here on the California coast. I had my bikes suspension setup by a professional suspension tuner for my weight and riding style and it has made the bike feel even better.

Glad you brought up the kickstand because the same happened to me. I got mine on model yr close out for 5k brand new. The lurchy throttle is kind of an issue with me also. Great review keep up the good work!! Made me a subscriber!!

I have the CF Moto 800NK, I love it, it rips. I wanted a KTM Duke but better looking so I got the best of both worlds.

I'm about to buy one ❤ ty for reviewing it

Hmmm Burch mentioned the FTR again. Is anyone else suspecting one in the near future? ;)

@Lifeofbirch ive purchased the 700clx about a year ago now. The gear Shifter messing with the indicator is a faulty Gear shift sensor. I almost sold mine back to the dealer cause it almost threw me off on the freeway cause the cruise control got confused. i had to record a video to show the dealer cause they didn't believe me. it will get worse if you leave it be. please replace it before yours decides to try and buck you off.

The kick stand is the same problem as the Husqvarna 401/701 looks like the same kickstand as well, not finding neutral is the same as the KTM 790 Duke. As they share some of the same parts is probably why.

Ive been riding for 46 years and I have a 450NK and I love it, I'm at the age where I need a smaller bike now that I'm heading towards the fuc**d stage of life but I want to keep riding, It"s light and easy to ride, perfect for me

You should get the sport model in new, and you'll be as happy as I am. It did have an ABS issue, and CFmoto recalled it, and it's been fine ever since. I've never had the gearing issue you have, which could be the reason yours is only 2500. Neutral sometimes might have issue especially when it runs hot. But It's still way better than the Harley or Yamaha cruisers we've had. Talking about support, CFMOTO is the only Chinese motorcycle manufacturer entering the US as a company itself. It'd be great if you can find an authorized CFmoto dealer in your area. Mine did my recall and it's been pleasure experience. CFmoto had been making BIG name in the ATV and UTV world for years. Their motorcycle is fairly new, and I had to say they are not the no.1 quality even in China, but given their reputation in the ATV world, they would catch up soon especially when they got more KTM stuff in. QJ made better motor and they collaborate with Harley, but we do not have them in the US yet.

I wanted this bike a lot. It is beautiful. But after reading an endless list of problems many people were having a ditched those plans and got an MT07. I'm interested in an easy going, cruise local touring kind of ride and thought the 700CLX would be better and I think the bike even looks better. I love the seat and it looks more comfy for 2up riding. But the reliability just killed it for me. Went with the MT07 as my first bike (wanted an MT09 and low power mode but could only convince my wife with used MT07 prices). I hope to have a Ducadi Diavel 1260S one day! Anyone with the 700CLX, I hope it is awesome for you!

The CF Moto seems ok, but I just can't get past the looks from the side. I'm sticking with the SV650.

I request a 6 Month Review in the future, primarily focused on anything you had to do with basic maintenance or if any repairs needed to be done and the costs and ease or difficulties. I am curious about the actual Nearly Daily Driven long term dependability.

I will say that the throttle mapping for the throttle by wire is kinda weird but it seems to be a lot better when you turn the traction control off. I have been looking into the Team MSC and Throttle Punks ecm tunes as they are supposed cure the weird throttle mapping issues as well as 7+hp gains. Throttle Punks also makes a custom high flow intake to go along with their tune. T-Rex Racing makes a crash cage, skid plate and sliders for this bike. Also there are some U.S. mfgs working on exhausts for these.

I think the clx 700 is a great looking bike. And it has cruise control and its competitors dont. Its a cheap sporty bike and fun. Ypu can get these dirt cheap like under $4k new the carry over models right now. That is a steal. CFMOTO is a legit contender in the bike world now imo. They are really making strives. Are they perfect no, but they are good and especially foe the price.

I bought the CLX700 Sport and 450SS. I really like both of them. The CLX has the issue with the gear indicator. The 450 SS had a defected clutch cable that was quickly replaced with warranty. For the issues you are having with the neutral, sounds you are having the same problem. The 700 could have a better quick stand angle but i dont have any problem with it. I dont have any issue on any of them either, like yours with the badge almost falling off. I am very happy with both of them.

3 years with Cfmoto 650MT - zero problems.

I have the same exact bike. I contacted the seller for my levers and paid a bit extra for the adapter. I am at 7k miles and my nine just now started getting the Reverse Gear Sensor issue, but it is still under warranty. Other than that, I love my little machine.

I have a '22 that I bought new and I've seen the same issue with my gear indicator. I'll take it in and have them take care of it since it's still under warranty. I also agree with your thoughts on the snatchy throttle at lower speeds. My bike hasn't done the kickstand launch, but i had it happen to be with a demo bike. And i was sure the display said neutral before starting. The look on the rep's face was priceless. I'm glad i bought the '22 as i love the gold wheels. It's too bad they didn't carry over.

Gotta say. I noticed the kick stand thing. I just won’t park up on any sort of downhill slope, no matter how slight it is. But other than that I love my CLX

I have a 2023 I bought in September of last season. I have over 5k miles on the clock and have had no issues. The bike starts and runs flawlessly, and gives me confidence it will easily pull 25k without needing anything besides routine maintenance. The fit and finish continues to impress me. That being said, the kickstand lean angle is a VERY real problem and frustratingly simple design flaw.

I kinda consider the CF at early Hyundai stage of their existence. Early Hyundai we're not very good or refined but they were the first car ppl considered outside the know mainstream. CF is the same right now, not great or very refined but are making strides and improving. Will they achieve what Hyundai has? Time will tell but I wouldn't buy one yet.

I had to try it for the price. So far I havent had the issues you got. I had a different set of issues. Ive had a starter solenoid issue. An 1 time using cruise control it just lost power. I had to turn it off and it never happen again. It happend areound 200 miles on the bike. I think something is draining my battery also. Other than those 3 i cant complain. I do however want mo powa baby lol. There is something about the bike thats missing. I cant put my finger on it. Maybe a type of charm idk lol

I am in my early 40s, and have not ridden in the last 15 years. Thinking about getting back into it. Would you recommend this for me?

180° crankshaft was a deal breaker for me .. and I LOVED the design of the *high fender* version (ADV\Rally, I forgot..)

We got Saturday Morning cartoons as kids, As adults we get Sunday Morning Moto, Chaos at 10am (using EST/-5UTC) Burch at 12pm Now we just need someone in the afternoon on Sundays? Anyone know of one? (And yes, I see Moto Mornings as a win to the comparison of Sat Morning Cartoons, recently saw SpongeBob, and maaaan does he look different)

Im not convinced there isnt a better option out there. Good video Navi Nation!

Versatile. That's the word you are looking for ;) love your stuff. be safe out there

When coming to a stop, I always put the motorcycle in first gear, and then I kick the side stand down. The engine will/should turn off, and the bike will be 'locked' in place. That will stop the bike from rolling forward on the stand. When starting a bike, I always put the bike in neutral and pull the clutch in. I will gently let the clutch out if I don't plan to move off straight away.

Hmmmm. My Harley has a pin that engages when the bikes weight is on the side stand that lets go when you stand it up.

Dude, you're singin' The Early Adopter Blues. It's the price of being first.

Looks good, the Chinese bike market has been improving all the time. I would wonder about the durability of the bike, in regards to it's mechanical and electrical components, time will tell. And a big concern is servicing, spare parts, warranty, the prices of Chinese bikes are going up, which would then make you consider the proven bike brands again. Anyway a great effort. 👏

Compared to other bikes with electronic throttle, the 700CL-X isn't too bad. Also, the 450 CFMoto bikes are a huge step up in build quality and that little engine is super smooth. So far I haven't waited any longer for CFMoto parts than Honda or Yamaha parts from my dealership. I have owned about 20 motorcycles and there are 2 that I would buy again. Yamaha FJR1300 and CFMoto 700 CL-X.

Hey there Burch! I've been riding the 700cl-x for almost a year now and you addressed all the issues that i have faced. The bike has been running smoothly without any problems. I am just really considering to trade it with a Rebel 1100, just for a change of style. Do you think it will more worth it in the long run?

Dude you brought so many memories.. I trained on one of them for my A license category, exactly the same colour.

Damn, an FTR off of Temu is the most accurate description for this bike I've heard yet. Still like it though and the price sure is tempting....

Would love to see burch ride a Papio SS and give his thoughts after seeing this cfmoto 700cl

The first con about the 6th and 1st gear is a dirty gear sensor, you can disassemble it and clean it and no more issues (it might happen again if it gets dirty)

I'm not super surprised to hear about weird neutral issues, because I've heard a lot of bikes have had problems with false neutrals in the past.

Love these videos dude. I’m not a huge fan of CFMoto… yet I can see the positives of these. I love how you’ve labeled it’s tech was as both a pro and con lol. Well said! imo if the tech doesn’t work… no point of claiming it has the tech - typical lower cost vehicle… add more “features” to the list… makes the perception of a better bang for your buck. Hyundai and Kia have done this for years. It’s a winning method to obtain market share. So they’re not stupid. Again dude love your take on this thing. Appreciate you brother.

I buyed a new clx 700 heritage with better looking colors. it was 4590€ total. i did drive 900 km. No problems so far. i go this week to the first service at 1000km

I hav a 23 clx700 sport.. Its one of the most reliable n great bike to ride... Would u feel better if it cost more?

I’m old. I like a rear fender instead of the license plate hanging on a weird arm. 100 years ago Harley developed the Jiffy Stand™️. When there’s weight on the stand it cannot be retracted. N00bs to H-D are freaked out about it until they get used to it. I’m guessing that like many bikes, including my Moto Guzzi, the gear position is calculated by speed and rpm. It doesn’t know what gear it is in until it can compare the speed to the rpm. As someone who follows racing I’m a fan of CFMoto in Moto3 and Moto2. Finally I don’t care what anyone thinks of my bikes.

The bike reminds me of a mid '90s Honda Nighthawk 750. Loved those bikes! 👍🏍️

Most of the issues with lag and throttle response can be fixed with a flash tune. It sucks that you need the tune to fix the issues, but it's worlds better.

If you get the "foot" for the kickstand it will help keep it more stable.

It's the gearbox sensor, most bikes fitted with the faulty one, I have the same issue on the adventure, it thinks its in 4th when it's in third, and of course the gearbox doesn't shift easily it's a struggle getting use to it.

My dad has a CF Moto Papio , A couple of times it said it was in neutral, but it was in gear when I was riding it.

Can you change the spring on the kickstand to a stronger one?

the honda trail 125 has a similar issue with the sidestand. my trail dropped ITSELF when i had parked it in my garage. it was sitting there for 5 minutes and decided its time had come and smashed itself into the wall. a kickstand shoe might help.

Aftermarket support for cfmoto motorcycles in America sucks but go here in Asian countries you'll find a lot of them. Here in the Philippines for example in terms of exhaust, we have ZeroOne's Villain exhaust. One will say their clip on exhaust looks like cheap knockoffs of other brands but they're very well made and can go hand in hand with brands like SC Project or AR exhaust. As long as you have the cash, they can help you get what you want for your bike. Accessories to full systems, they can make them or have the connections to acquire them for you.

If your issues are mostly based around the transmission and its gear indicator, do you think it might be some damage from the previous owner dropping or abusing it? Or are there other riders having the exact same issue with theirs? Anyway, great review, keep it up!

Dude, a friend of mine bought an ibex 800T for $6000 on sale. I ride a Yamaha MT09, I am not a pro rider and he keeps up with me with no trouble. So for anyone who is just a regular rider that bike is incredible for the price he paid for it. It has so much technology and comfort, he loves his bike. CFMotos are an insanely good option for someone on a budget but still want a decent bike.

Crazy, this bike gets cruise control and my 700MT doesn't? Is the throttle fly by wire?

Just wondering where did you get the short levers from. I’m from Australia and no one seem to have any that will fit on the CLX Heritage

Hey wondering if a ninja 500 would keep up or blow it away?!?!?

Lol crazy you have this bike and have had it for im guessing roughly 2-3 months because I looked into getting a navi probably 2-3 months after you bought one of those and you videos help me decide

my cfmoto 300ss and 450ss was flawless except for the super agressive riding position but that is a personal preference. I traded it in for a rebel 1100t and im happy with that. I still keep the 300 for when im want a sportier ride and the rebel just cruises.

Cheap and inexpensive are two different things... 15-18 years ago I wouldn't have bought a Chinese bike. But they have been seriously hitting hard in the market, quality and price point, simply incredible... I have had three of them so far!! And have not regretted these purchases at all! If you have a ton of money, sure you can buy any bike. But still, some Chinese bikes are really good looking...😊

2 weeks for replacements really doesn't sound that bad. Consider the East overseas suppliers like Triumph, BMW, Ducati. Yep, they wait even longer. My Tiger sat for a month waiting for parts 2 years ago. Was it the ole 'p' causing the issues? Probably some. Historically, there's always been a 'lengthy' wait. (we live in a give it to me now culture)

Man I loved that bike. It was such a fun ride during the meet. I would totally own one as a secondary bike. I couldn't make it a main, but it is SO fun despite it's quirks/cons.

your subscribe pitch is convicting and at the same time its funny 😂

Getting ready to take mine in cuz the cruise control turns off on it's own. Anf quite frequently. I don't regret it but I've never had problems on any new bike until now.

I am really on the fence about buying a CFMoto. I am looking at their ADV line up. I am just concerned about long term mechanical reliability with them. I love my hondas

I’m 1 minute in, does he regret buying it? Thanks in advance 👍🏻

At the moment i own bmw g310gs and f900xr both i use for different things but im looking for something which i can use as a fun bike for everyday use and do like 150 miles trips now and then. Im wondering if this bike would last next 3/4 years 🤔 because for the price here in uk it seems like quite lot of a bike

You can find lightly used Moto Guzzi V7 under 6k ton of character and style with legendary brand.People always quote MSRP knowing once out of the dealer you just lost 2k on dealers fees.I suggest buy lightly used bikes and avoid the fees.Recently I was looking to buy RE classic 350 in MA but after freight documentation etc 4500 bike became 6k and I walked out....Not paying 600 dollars for "documentation" serious robbery.

should be more than 600 miles brotha. 2k miles is good for a solid review

Great content bruh. Keep it up!

There are plenty of OEM parts from cfmoto, radiator screens, seats, chain guards, headlight grills, bar end mirrors.

I have a CFMOTO 650MT it’s not perfect but in the UK it has twice the warranty to the Japanese/european bikes. It’s a lot of fun for the money but watch out for massive price drops/ offers if thinking about buying brand new.

There’s already a fix for the gear indicator causing cruise to turn off in 6th gear, it took me about 10 minutes

Just pull in the clutch when you start it

About the kickstand - if it allows you to start and go in gear with the kickstand out, I'd say it's an oversight. I'd much rather have a system that kills the engine/doesn't let it start if it detects it's in gear and has the kickstand out... ... like the yamahas do As you said - 80% of the bike, for 80% of the price. I am really torn by that ngl, because I also was looking at one of these. They're incredibly cheap here in europe, dropping below 6k usd (post taxes) because people just don't quite buy enough to sell the inventory fast enough.

i definently think that the issues are different when it comes to the sport and the stock heritage becuase the only issue that i run into with my 700clx sport is the cruise control. also from what ive seen from other riders if you get the gear indicator replaced it fixes that issue

Great video Burch !! 🤙🏽

Your cons are valid but you are missing a few things. Most important is that your 2022 bike has a 2 year unlimited mileage warranty. Before that 2 years is up purchase the additional 4 year Extended Warranty. Here in NY it costs only $580. Take it to one of the over 200 dealers in the US and get the Cruise Control issue resolved. CFMOTO has been around for over 20 years making quads and side x sides. In January 2024 they announced a majority partnership with Yamaha to build and sell bikes in China. To avoid the potential "Chinese junk" branding instead of making their own components they wisely outsourced by building the CLX with KYB suspension, Continental ABS, Bosch fuel injection, Pirelli tires, and licensing this motor from Kawasaki. I now have 18,875 miles on my CLX since October 2022. Nearly 10k of those miles were put on the bike between October and March during the long cold Upstate New York winter when I had no troubles at all. I still have the Cruise Control Gear indicator problem after they installed the completely redesigned gear sensors and engine case. But CFMOTO is still trying. So far they have replaced the sensors numerous times, the entire wiring harness, throttle assembly, and ECU. The dealer has called to say they are waiting for the MCU which feeds data to the gauge/dashboard. For other problems they also changed both intake manifolds and the fuel sensor under the original warranty. I can say with absolute certainty that the Cruise Control/Gear Indicator is a heat related issue. I put thousands of miles on the bike over the long cold Upstate New York winters without a single episode. As soon as the temperatures go above 70°F it acts up but only in 6th gear for extended distances above 75mph. I've done 450+ miles in a single day on public roads with little traffic ranging from 35mph-55mph in 4th through 6th gears without a problem. It was 92° on July 9th 2024 and I rode 18 miles at 55mph in 6th gear with no problem. I got on the NYS Thruway and less than 10 miles into my trip with the Cruise Control set at 80mph with no traffic the bike went into limp mode. It's the heat. I really rely on the Cruise due to rheumatoid arthritis in my hands so I keep testing/trying/helping them find the solution. If more owners went to their dealers to have the updated parts installed there would be more data for CFMOTO to process and hopefully they'll spend more to find the solution. Thanks for your honest review and please keep posting more of them.

Same thing happened to my 450SR saying it's in neutral then when i let go of the clutch it just stalled.

Yup looks just like you said a Temu FTR!!!!! And yup looks great!!

The only thing I can see is the title that's supposed to say "Do I REGRET not buying the Indian FTR" 🤣🤣. But, jokes aside, I see your points. Completely understand where you're coming from. But, if I don't trust the bike, no amount of financial incentives is going to convince me to ride it. Trust is everything.

i have the sport version, the bike is good but the after sales of cfmoto is horrible, spare parts are next to impossible to acquire

600 miles in two months? You haven't ridden it enough.

I suppose the styling wouldn't be so bad if the back end hadn't fallen off?

Sounds like your gear indicater sensor needs to be looked at.

HOW did you find this for $2500. that's an insane deal.

CfMoto CLX uses bored out engine from Kawasaki ER6, N8nja 650, Versys 650, Vulcan 650 models, so it should feel more like those, not Suzuki SV650, although they have similar power.

The “bike thinking its neutral but it’s in 1st” does happen to me with my Svartpilen. I always start the bike using the clutch, so no problem there, but that has happened to me at stoplights making the bike stall and making me looking like a noob lol. Also it’s a pain with the Svart to find neutral. In the end I think that CF Moto sources several parts from KTM, so it could be a general KTM issue.

here you are ripping around on a 700cc chinese bike and I'm over here ripping around my town on a 1978 Honda Trail 90...

If you leave your bike in 1st gear when you stop and park it, there is less chance of it rolling forward off the kickstand.

The biggest problem with CFMoto, looking beyond Andy issues as a new/young company, is largely the geopolitical context of them being a Chinese company. Whether that’s something worth discussing on a motorcycle channel is another matter entirely, but that is why much of the hostility toward the company exists, and it is only amplified on the threads complaining about their reliability issues. CFMoto, like the country they’re based out of, is guilty of IP theft by rehashing these bikes. It’s so apparent that the 800NK (believe I have the right model) used KTM branded oil filters because it was essentially the 790 Duke that KTM manufactures in China. Even some statements made by KTM alluded to acceptance that rhe 790 Duke would receive this treatment upon sourcing its production to China. While this might not entirely be the case across all of their bikes, the company, as per standard in China, is at least partially owned by the Chinese government, thereby directly supporting the USA’s ideological/economic rival. For many people, this is a nonstarter despite not articulating it in a KZfaq/social media comment. For the question of why it’s so cheap comparatively, China has used an economic policy of deflating their currency to drown out other competitors with how cheap their products can be. Combine that with a less-than-stellar record on employee treatment and the fact the bike was essentially developed by another brand for you, and you have a recipe for a cheap bike.

Lack of CF Moto credibility could also stem from the fact that by comparison all the major motorcycle brands have put in the work over decades with R&D and that shows in the attention to detail of their finished products. I can't speak for others, but that alone earns my trust and willingness to pay a little more for one of those brands.

The start in neutral is a weird place in the transmission, it clicks in5i 2nd gear causing that jerk, have to ensure neutral, i start the bikr with clutch pulled in just incase of this gear positioning jump

All bikes should have a snotch that locks the kick stand when the weight of the bike is on it. Harley has this

You’re a wise man already. Take it for me I’m 63, a motorcycle is not a machine you want to be overconfident on

How old is it? 65% depreciation is a poop load! Electrical issues, build quality, etc. My guess is 3-5 years of ownership a MT07/XSR would be a less expensive better ownership experience.

Is there a software/firmware update for the bike?