In the old days, here in the UK, we always pulled in the clutch lever when starting a bike with the old Brit bikes. And 40 yrs later, it's still my habit no matter what bike I ride. :)
@Rayraysplums2 ай бұрын
I've always done that with all my bikes and cars.
@richardbriggs7547Ай бұрын
Always a good habit
@John-jw8rxАй бұрын
Still do on my street triple
@eLu2198Ай бұрын
my suzuki bandit 650 of 2007 wont even start if i dont pull the cluch.
@airgunbubba25057 күн бұрын
100% always do that myself.
@screaching-Chris2 ай бұрын
There is a fix for the gear indicator problem , take off the front sprocket cover you will see the gear sensor , undo the black electrical tape to expose the connectors unplug them undo the sensor (14mm) remove the washer and screw it back in reconnect wires new electrical tape and bolt sprocket cover back on , and enjoy
@LifeOfBurch2 ай бұрын
So just taking the washer out fixes it? I’ll have to give that a try! Good looks dude 🤘🏻
@dcmphoto7437Ай бұрын
@@LifeOfBurch Yes it does in most cases.
@Tennessee968Ай бұрын
You shouldn't have to.
@mprime6807Ай бұрын
There a service bulletin on this where they mention the thickness of that washer interferes with the sensor.
@Ephem1326 күн бұрын
This worked on mine. Some also have to replace the sensor, but it's like $25 bucks.
@JasonRidesmoto2 ай бұрын
Chase said it well about CFMOTO... they're about 85-90% the quality of the proven Japanese brands. And you get a discount to offset that difference. 2nd year with my CFMOTO Ibex 800T and I love it.
@LifeOfBurch2 ай бұрын
I could definitely agree with that sentiment…but I’d probably mark it around 75-80% realistically. I’d love to get my hands on an ibex though! They look super rad 🙌🏻
@dearbulls2 ай бұрын
I can approve this message. Going from a used Kawasaki 650R to my 700 CLX Sport, I love almost every aspect of this new bike. He might just have bad luck getting a cheap used one. But hey, you cannot beat 2500 price. I'd get it in a blink as well. I paid 8000 for my Sport brand new on a big sale (taxes everything included).
@steve00alt702 ай бұрын
Japanese brands yet built in China
@dearbulls2 ай бұрын
CFMOTO is Chinese brand@@steve00alt70
@christianhudspeth33382 ай бұрын
That would be a fair statement. I got a nk 300 and I have to basically baby the thing and make sure the oil is changed on time or even more often than what the manual says to change the oil. Clean the chain just to make sure no funny business happens.
@MrGreenwolfieАй бұрын
The people who hate CFmoto are the same people who would cream their pants if the logo said honda or kawasaki.
@LunringNassar6 күн бұрын
Oh shut up, our hate is based on the fact that CFmoto is too busy being cheap and suck off their partnership's R&D on their engines just to do half the original service interval. Besides I'm not supporting an authoritarian country based company.
@KomotoVlogs2 ай бұрын
Perfect review!! I have an absolute 50/50 love/hate relationship with this thing. I’ll try and get my video on it finished this week!
@LifeOfBurch2 ай бұрын
The relationship went: love ➡️ drop ➡️ confusion ➡️ hate 😂
@KomotoVlogs2 ай бұрын
@@LifeOfBurchliterally 😂
@some_guy4412 ай бұрын
this is wild CFMOTO in the Isle of Mann TT 4th place! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nZdgbNSJnNPOipc.htmlsi=pWfcO2XapN5mRTrD
@Luun892 ай бұрын
Oh no, it was dropped? Actually the bike looks unscathed so all is well 👌
@mcmbassАй бұрын
Plz do
@ddorko2 ай бұрын
I picked up a 2023 for $6k otd with 1mile back in March. I have around 4500 miles on it now. The 2023 and up has three rider modes. They added off-road mode in which you can turn off rear ABS as well as adding a button to turn off traction control in any rider mode. I haven't had the gear indicator/cruise issue yet. Seems to be a bigger problem with the first gen models. I really really have enjoyed the bike so far through daily commuting and lots of hard twisties riding out here on the California coast. I had my bikes suspension setup by a professional suspension tuner for my weight and riding style and it has made the bike feel even better.
@chrismorin4109Ай бұрын
Glad you brought up the kickstand because the same happened to me. I got mine on model yr close out for 5k brand new. The lurchy throttle is kind of an issue with me also. Great review keep up the good work!! Made me a subscriber!!
@JimmySnakes2 ай бұрын
I have the CF Moto 800NK, I love it, it rips. I wanted a KTM Duke but better looking so I got the best of both worlds.
@abovewongart2 ай бұрын
I'm about to buy one ❤ ty for reviewing it
@ChrisSauer-oe5veАй бұрын
Save your money
@101BadBreathАй бұрын
Why? @@ChrisSauer-oe5ve
@jonesy24972 ай бұрын
Hmmm Burch mentioned the FTR again. Is anyone else suspecting one in the near future? ;)
@LifeOfBurch2 ай бұрын
Sheeeit I need to be suspecting a lottery win if you’re suspecting an FTR on the channel anytime soon!! 😂😂😂
@ZinoAmare2 ай бұрын
@@LifeOfBurch ftr was great, but I prefered the rogue much more usuable power :3
@SpeedConMan2 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for some FTR content
@karlfonner75892 ай бұрын
Get a used SV 650. About 1 million people know how to work on them and their great for track days.
@ScottPatton442 ай бұрын
If Burch quit buying fringe stuff he could buy that FTR… or as someone else said … the standard… SV650
@davidbreckterfield87742 ай бұрын
@Lifeofbirch ive purchased the 700clx about a year ago now. The gear Shifter messing with the indicator is a faulty Gear shift sensor. I almost sold mine back to the dealer cause it almost threw me off on the freeway cause the cruise control got confused. i had to record a video to show the dealer cause they didn't believe me. it will get worse if you leave it be. please replace it before yours decides to try and buck you off.
@trooper6442823 күн бұрын
The kick stand is the same problem as the Husqvarna 401/701 looks like the same kickstand as well, not finding neutral is the same as the KTM 790 Duke. As they share some of the same parts is probably why.
@TommyTucker029 күн бұрын
Ive been riding for 46 years and I have a 450NK and I love it, I'm at the age where I need a smaller bike now that I'm heading towards the fuc**d stage of life but I want to keep riding, It"s light and easy to ride, perfect for me
@kozas022 күн бұрын
Looking into buying the 450NK too. Same reasons. Thanks for the feedback.
@chislmondi2 күн бұрын
i have one too :)) but im 19 yo so its the other way around, its actually my second bike, went up from a 125cc. i love the nk
@dearbulls2 ай бұрын
You should get the sport model in new, and you'll be as happy as I am. It did have an ABS issue, and CFmoto recalled it, and it's been fine ever since. I've never had the gearing issue you have, which could be the reason yours is only 2500. Neutral sometimes might have issue especially when it runs hot. But It's still way better than the Harley or Yamaha cruisers we've had. Talking about support, CFMOTO is the only Chinese motorcycle manufacturer entering the US as a company itself. It'd be great if you can find an authorized CFmoto dealer in your area. Mine did my recall and it's been pleasure experience. CFmoto had been making BIG name in the ATV and UTV world for years. Their motorcycle is fairly new, and I had to say they are not the no.1 quality even in China, but given their reputation in the ATV world, they would catch up soon especially when they got more KTM stuff in. QJ made better motor and they collaborate with Harley, but we do not have them in the US yet.
@TheFirstCause2 ай бұрын
I wanted this bike a lot. It is beautiful. But after reading an endless list of problems many people were having a ditched those plans and got an MT07. I'm interested in an easy going, cruise local touring kind of ride and thought the 700CLX would be better and I think the bike even looks better. I love the seat and it looks more comfy for 2up riding. But the reliability just killed it for me. Went with the MT07 as my first bike (wanted an MT09 and low power mode but could only convince my wife with used MT07 prices). I hope to have a Ducadi Diavel 1260S one day! Anyone with the 700CLX, I hope it is awesome for you!
@langhamp8912Ай бұрын
I have a '22 XSR900 that I was lucky enough to get at a great price from a Yamaha employee who already had five bikes in his garage. Believe the hype; the XSR900 can be a cruiser, a standard, a low-powered bike, a trackday bike, a tourer. The power modes are very interesting and I don't think riders use them enough. I basically switch the power modes all the time depending on conditions but often have it at the lowest power mode in the twisties.
@graham685329 күн бұрын
The CF Moto seems ok, but I just can't get past the looks from the side. I'm sticking with the SV650.
@Cocytus2 ай бұрын
I request a 6 Month Review in the future, primarily focused on anything you had to do with basic maintenance or if any repairs needed to be done and the costs and ease or difficulties. I am curious about the actual Nearly Daily Driven long term dependability.
@ddorko2 ай бұрын
I will say that the throttle mapping for the throttle by wire is kinda weird but it seems to be a lot better when you turn the traction control off. I have been looking into the Team MSC and Throttle Punks ecm tunes as they are supposed cure the weird throttle mapping issues as well as 7+hp gains. Throttle Punks also makes a custom high flow intake to go along with their tune. T-Rex Racing makes a crash cage, skid plate and sliders for this bike. Also there are some U.S. mfgs working on exhausts for these.
@teej198723 күн бұрын
Get the MSC one. I did and it changed the bike so much
@Garcheezy4 күн бұрын
I dont think the 700 cl-x has traction control. Are you sure about that?
@teej19874 күн бұрын
@@Garcheezy who mentioned tc
@Garcheezy4 күн бұрын
@@teej1987 the first comment. i quote: "I will say that the throttle mapping for the throttle by wire is kinda weird but it seems to be a lot better when you turn the traction control off"
@bikerbeliever81692 ай бұрын
I think the clx 700 is a great looking bike. And it has cruise control and its competitors dont. Its a cheap sporty bike and fun. Ypu can get these dirt cheap like under $4k new the carry over models right now. That is a steal. CFMOTO is a legit contender in the bike world now imo. They are really making strives. Are they perfect no, but they are good and especially foe the price.
@carsandbricks44229 күн бұрын
I bought the CLX700 Sport and 450SS. I really like both of them. The CLX has the issue with the gear indicator. The 450 SS had a defected clutch cable that was quickly replaced with warranty. For the issues you are having with the neutral, sounds you are having the same problem. The 700 could have a better quick stand angle but i dont have any problem with it. I dont have any issue on any of them either, like yours with the badge almost falling off. I am very happy with both of them.
@wazreba5859Ай бұрын
3 years with Cfmoto 650MT - zero problems.
@mikecolumbus70882 ай бұрын
I have the same exact bike. I contacted the seller for my levers and paid a bit extra for the adapter. I am at 7k miles and my nine just now started getting the Reverse Gear Sensor issue, but it is still under warranty. Other than that, I love my little machine.
@mprime6807Ай бұрын
I have a '22 that I bought new and I've seen the same issue with my gear indicator. I'll take it in and have them take care of it since it's still under warranty. I also agree with your thoughts on the snatchy throttle at lower speeds. My bike hasn't done the kickstand launch, but i had it happen to be with a demo bike. And i was sure the display said neutral before starting. The look on the rep's face was priceless. I'm glad i bought the '22 as i love the gold wheels. It's too bad they didn't carry over.
@nitrogary89987 күн бұрын
Gotta say. I noticed the kick stand thing. I just won’t park up on any sort of downhill slope, no matter how slight it is. But other than that I love my CLX
@ncbinline61149 күн бұрын
I have a 2023 I bought in September of last season. I have over 5k miles on the clock and have had no issues. The bike starts and runs flawlessly, and gives me confidence it will easily pull 25k without needing anything besides routine maintenance. The fit and finish continues to impress me. That being said, the kickstand lean angle is a VERY real problem and frustratingly simple design flaw.
@markbradshaw89662 ай бұрын
I kinda consider the CF at early Hyundai stage of their existence. Early Hyundai we're not very good or refined but they were the first car ppl considered outside the know mainstream. CF is the same right now, not great or very refined but are making strides and improving. Will they achieve what Hyundai has? Time will tell but I wouldn't buy one yet.
@christopherpekel60962 ай бұрын
They're way way way past early Hyundai stage. They're 90% of the budget Japanese bikes and I would even argue that some of them are better than some south east Asian built Japanese bikes
@StrateTrippinАй бұрын
I had to try it for the price. So far I havent had the issues you got. I had a different set of issues. Ive had a starter solenoid issue. An 1 time using cruise control it just lost power. I had to turn it off and it never happen again. It happend areound 200 miles on the bike. I think something is draining my battery also. Other than those 3 i cant complain. I do however want mo powa baby lol. There is something about the bike thats missing. I cant put my finger on it. Maybe a type of charm idk lol
@TheShamRulz5 күн бұрын
I am in my early 40s, and have not ridden in the last 15 years. Thinking about getting back into it. Would you recommend this for me?
@generaldistrust14 күн бұрын
180° crankshaft was a deal breaker for me .. and I LOVED the design of the *high fender* version (ADV\Rally, I forgot..)
@LunringNassar6 күн бұрын
Its a kawasaki 650 engine btw.
@generaldistrust6 күн бұрын
@@LunringNassar clone, yes. I was wishing for a crossplane but since it was floatplane I reaumed with hoping they'll make a snaller 450 crossplane version of CL-X ADV
@MotoDash11002 ай бұрын
We got Saturday Morning cartoons as kids, As adults we get Sunday Morning Moto, Chaos at 10am (using EST/-5UTC) Burch at 12pm Now we just need someone in the afternoon on Sundays? Anyone know of one? (And yes, I see Moto Mornings as a win to the comparison of Sat Morning Cartoons, recently saw SpongeBob, and maaaan does he look different)
@LifeOfBurch2 ай бұрын
🙌🏻 Sunday Morning Moto 🙌🏻 For the afternoon video…just watch mine a second time 😂😂😂
@cb339112 күн бұрын
Im not convinced there isnt a better option out there. Good video Navi Nation!
@johnneal002 ай бұрын
Versatile. That's the word you are looking for ;) love your stuff. be safe out there
@LifeOfBurch2 ай бұрын
I used the word “versatile” a few times, so not the word I was looking for. It’s some common phrase that was on the tip of my tongue…that I still haven’t figured out 😂 Thanks for watching dude! Glad you dig it!! 🙌🏻🤘🏻
@soulrebelno1Ай бұрын
When coming to a stop, I always put the motorcycle in first gear, and then I kick the side stand down. The engine will/should turn off, and the bike will be 'locked' in place. That will stop the bike from rolling forward on the stand. When starting a bike, I always put the bike in neutral and pull the clutch in. I will gently let the clutch out if I don't plan to move off straight away.
@massmike112 ай бұрын
Hmmmm. My Harley has a pin that engages when the bikes weight is on the side stand that lets go when you stand it up.
@USARAY19472 ай бұрын
Dude, you're singin' The Early Adopter Blues. It's the price of being first.
@rbattson717119 күн бұрын
Looks good, the Chinese bike market has been improving all the time. I would wonder about the durability of the bike, in regards to it's mechanical and electrical components, time will tell. And a big concern is servicing, spare parts, warranty, the prices of Chinese bikes are going up, which would then make you consider the proven bike brands again. Anyway a great effort. 👏
@dcmphoto7437Ай бұрын
Compared to other bikes with electronic throttle, the 700CL-X isn't too bad. Also, the 450 CFMoto bikes are a huge step up in build quality and that little engine is super smooth. So far I haven't waited any longer for CFMoto parts than Honda or Yamaha parts from my dealership. I have owned about 20 motorcycles and there are 2 that I would buy again. Yamaha FJR1300 and CFMoto 700 CL-X.
@syazwan_ruslaine2 ай бұрын
Hey there Burch! I've been riding the 700cl-x for almost a year now and you addressed all the issues that i have faced. The bike has been running smoothly without any problems. I am just really considering to trade it with a Rebel 1100, just for a change of style. Do you think it will more worth it in the long run?
@grafmecx26412 ай бұрын
Dude you brought so many memories.. I trained on one of them for my A license category, exactly the same colour.
@LifeOfBurch2 ай бұрын
Oh no way! That’s rad! 🙌🏻
@grafmecx26412 ай бұрын
@LifeOfBurch Yeah, I live in Austria and here we have a lot of curves and not many long stretches of highways because we are a predominantly mountainous country and this bike drives excellent in our conditions. Honestly, I have not many bad things to say about this small bike, it drove nice and performed excellent on our roads.
@wafflehammer4725Ай бұрын
Damn, an FTR off of Temu is the most accurate description for this bike I've heard yet. Still like it though and the price sure is tempting....
@dohmino2 күн бұрын
Would love to see burch ride a Papio SS and give his thoughts after seeing this cfmoto 700cl
@EduardoGonzalez-kx9gn2 ай бұрын
The first con about the 6th and 1st gear is a dirty gear sensor, you can disassemble it and clean it and no more issues (it might happen again if it gets dirty)
@Tarkov.2 ай бұрын
I'm not super surprised to hear about weird neutral issues, because I've heard a lot of bikes have had problems with false neutrals in the past.
@chrispekel57092 ай бұрын
That's odd because my 2 Cfmotos on this platform have never done that
@Tarkov.2 ай бұрын
@@chrispekel5709 I don't mean specifically cfmoto, I mean like every brand, like hondas even.
@dearbulls2 ай бұрын
Especially Harleys
@SLIGHT_2 ай бұрын
Love these videos dude. I’m not a huge fan of CFMoto… yet I can see the positives of these. I love how you’ve labeled it’s tech was as both a pro and con lol. Well said! imo if the tech doesn’t work… no point of claiming it has the tech - typical lower cost vehicle… add more “features” to the list… makes the perception of a better bang for your buck. Hyundai and Kia have done this for years. It’s a winning method to obtain market share. So they’re not stupid. Again dude love your take on this thing. Appreciate you brother.
@LifeOfBurch2 ай бұрын
Thanks dude! Agreed 100%! And I totally forgot to even mention the “self canceling” turn signals that only work when they decide they want to 😂 Like if you’re only going to self cancel 40% of the time, I’m still going to habitually cancel them every time…so why even have them? 🤷🏼♂️
@BryonCLewis2 ай бұрын
@@LifeOfBurch It took me a while to figure it out, they seem to be speed based. If you turn them on over a certain speed they work more like lane switch indicator where they blink a few times. I'm guessing you probably have the same habit as me of indicating early and braking at the same time. So sometimes I have to activate them twice when coming up to a turn, one while slowing down and another once I'm almost stopped. It is kind of annoying.
@dearbulls2 ай бұрын
And hyundai making great cars now
@SLIGHT_2 ай бұрын
@@dearbulls I fear you’re missing the point… I never once stated that Hyundai was a bad car… nor the CFMoto a bad bike. I simply highlighted an issue/struggle that these newer to market manufacturers have, and their “fix” to gain market share. It’s genius really. That said… you get what you pay for. I’ve had many family members buy these manufactures as they feel they’re getting better value… only to find themselves down a car. This happens from time to time and is not specific to manufacturer.
@alexandergutmann39110 күн бұрын
I buyed a new clx 700 heritage with better looking colors. it was 4590€ total. i did drive 900 km. No problems so far. i go this week to the first service at 1000km
@Numix818 күн бұрын
Wow guter Deal wenn ich fragen darf welcher Händler und wie groß sie sind?
@HyleptionКүн бұрын
Also how much for first service and other? I am also in Germany wondering should I really try this or not.
@DUCDuc-lx3ks5 күн бұрын
I hav a 23 clx700 sport.. Its one of the most reliable n great bike to ride... Would u feel better if it cost more?
@BlueRidgeRider2 ай бұрын
I’m old. I like a rear fender instead of the license plate hanging on a weird arm. 100 years ago Harley developed the Jiffy Stand™️. When there’s weight on the stand it cannot be retracted. N00bs to H-D are freaked out about it until they get used to it. I’m guessing that like many bikes, including my Moto Guzzi, the gear position is calculated by speed and rpm. It doesn’t know what gear it is in until it can compare the speed to the rpm. As someone who follows racing I’m a fan of CFMoto in Moto3 and Moto2. Finally I don’t care what anyone thinks of my bikes.
@vanmandadАй бұрын
The bike reminds me of a mid '90s Honda Nighthawk 750. Loved those bikes! 👍🏍️
@Ephem1326 күн бұрын
Most of the issues with lag and throttle response can be fixed with a flash tune. It sucks that you need the tune to fix the issues, but it's worlds better.
@morgankovarik3649Ай бұрын
If you get the "foot" for the kickstand it will help keep it more stable.
@VTVIZUAL15 күн бұрын
It's the gearbox sensor, most bikes fitted with the faulty one, I have the same issue on the adventure, it thinks its in 4th when it's in third, and of course the gearbox doesn't shift easily it's a struggle getting use to it.
@afriarsАй бұрын
My dad has a CF Moto Papio , A couple of times it said it was in neutral, but it was in gear when I was riding it.
@coyote49362 ай бұрын
Can you change the spring on the kickstand to a stronger one?
@antimatterhorn2 ай бұрын
the honda trail 125 has a similar issue with the sidestand. my trail dropped ITSELF when i had parked it in my garage. it was sitting there for 5 minutes and decided its time had come and smashed itself into the wall. a kickstand shoe might help.
@sapphireghost2169Ай бұрын
Aftermarket support for cfmoto motorcycles in America sucks but go here in Asian countries you'll find a lot of them. Here in the Philippines for example in terms of exhaust, we have ZeroOne's Villain exhaust. One will say their clip on exhaust looks like cheap knockoffs of other brands but they're very well made and can go hand in hand with brands like SC Project or AR exhaust. As long as you have the cash, they can help you get what you want for your bike. Accessories to full systems, they can make them or have the connections to acquire them for you.
@jackisoutside2 ай бұрын
If your issues are mostly based around the transmission and its gear indicator, do you think it might be some damage from the previous owner dropping or abusing it? Or are there other riders having the exact same issue with theirs? Anyway, great review, keep it up!
@SqwilboSwagginsАй бұрын
Unfortunately almost every owner (in multiple forums/ fb groups) experiences the gear indicator issue as well as the weird throttle at low rpms. 3k+ on my 2022 and never been dropped. I think the indicator problem started around 1k. CFMoto allegedly put out a fix for indicator but I have seen multiple people say it continued after having a dealer apply the "Fix"
@newbieridesАй бұрын
Dude, a friend of mine bought an ibex 800T for $6000 on sale. I ride a Yamaha MT09, I am not a pro rider and he keeps up with me with no trouble. So for anyone who is just a regular rider that bike is incredible for the price he paid for it. It has so much technology and comfort, he loves his bike. CFMotos are an insanely good option for someone on a budget but still want a decent bike.
@ChrisSauer-oe5veАй бұрын
There ain’t no way 🤥🤥
@BobfmBali16 күн бұрын
Crazy, this bike gets cruise control and my 700MT doesn't? Is the throttle fly by wire?
@user-rr5gb5kc4vАй бұрын
Just wondering where did you get the short levers from. I’m from Australia and no one seem to have any that will fit on the CLX Heritage
@user-xd8ng9fc2mАй бұрын
Hey wondering if a ninja 500 would keep up or blow it away?!?!?
@user-ms8xp4dx2k11 күн бұрын
The 500 would hurt his feelings
@JP-hn9mvАй бұрын
Lol crazy you have this bike and have had it for im guessing roughly 2-3 months because I looked into getting a navi probably 2-3 months after you bought one of those and you videos help me decide
@Raeodor2 ай бұрын
my cfmoto 300ss and 450ss was flawless except for the super agressive riding position but that is a personal preference. I traded it in for a rebel 1100t and im happy with that. I still keep the 300 for when im want a sportier ride and the rebel just cruises.
@leftymadrid2 ай бұрын
Cheap and inexpensive are two different things... 15-18 years ago I wouldn't have bought a Chinese bike. But they have been seriously hitting hard in the market, quality and price point, simply incredible... I have had three of them so far!! And have not regretted these purchases at all! If you have a ton of money, sure you can buy any bike. But still, some Chinese bikes are really good looking...😊
@pmdinaz2 ай бұрын
2 weeks for replacements really doesn't sound that bad. Consider the East overseas suppliers like Triumph, BMW, Ducati. Yep, they wait even longer. My Tiger sat for a month waiting for parts 2 years ago. Was it the ole 'p' causing the issues? Probably some. Historically, there's always been a 'lengthy' wait. (we live in a give it to me now culture)
@LinkFelton2 ай бұрын
Man I loved that bike. It was such a fun ride during the meet. I would totally own one as a secondary bike. I couldn't make it a main, but it is SO fun despite it's quirks/cons.
@LifeOfBurch2 ай бұрын
Right?! Such a fun bike! I forget how much it rips sometimes 😂🤘🏻
@zo-motoАй бұрын
your subscribe pitch is convicting and at the same time its funny 😂
@chrismorin4109Ай бұрын
Getting ready to take mine in cuz the cruise control turns off on it's own. Anf quite frequently. I don't regret it but I've never had problems on any new bike until now.
@Dustytrailzzz8 күн бұрын
I am really on the fence about buying a CFMoto. I am looking at their ADV line up. I am just concerned about long term mechanical reliability with them. I love my hondas
@English_MoFo2 ай бұрын
I’m 1 minute in, does he regret buying it? Thanks in advance 👍🏻
@Fractal3792 ай бұрын
He got it for $2500 so, no - but he wouldn't buy one new. You're welcome 👍
@bartasview21486 күн бұрын
At the moment i own bmw g310gs and f900xr both i use for different things but im looking for something which i can use as a fun bike for everyday use and do like 150 miles trips now and then. Im wondering if this bike would last next 3/4 years 🤔 because for the price here in uk it seems like quite lot of a bike
@rubo19642 ай бұрын
You can find lightly used Moto Guzzi V7 under 6k ton of character and style with legendary brand.People always quote MSRP knowing once out of the dealer you just lost 2k on dealers fees.I suggest buy lightly used bikes and avoid the fees.Recently I was looking to buy RE classic 350 in MA but after freight documentation etc 4500 bike became 6k and I walked out....Not paying 600 dollars for "documentation" serious robbery.
@evanhandelong768527 күн бұрын
They had the 400s on "sale" for 4k. By the time you pay all the fees and interest the thing costs over 6k. No thank you. Bought an old 800 Suzuki from a coworker and fixed it up. Very happy with my $500 bike
@Merc3992 ай бұрын
should be more than 600 miles brotha. 2k miles is good for a solid review
@viniciusmartosАй бұрын
Great content bruh. Keep it up!
@trooper6442823 күн бұрын
There are plenty of OEM parts from cfmoto, radiator screens, seats, chain guards, headlight grills, bar end mirrors.
@BlueHippoMoto2 ай бұрын
I have a CFMOTO 650MT it’s not perfect but in the UK it has twice the warranty to the Japanese/european bikes. It’s a lot of fun for the money but watch out for massive price drops/ offers if thinking about buying brand new.
@TheAppalachianKid2 ай бұрын
There’s already a fix for the gear indicator causing cruise to turn off in 6th gear, it took me about 10 minutes
@briancrowe85352 ай бұрын
Just pull in the clutch when you start it
@TheLastCrankers2 ай бұрын
About the kickstand - if it allows you to start and go in gear with the kickstand out, I'd say it's an oversight. I'd much rather have a system that kills the engine/doesn't let it start if it detects it's in gear and has the kickstand out... ... like the yamahas do As you said - 80% of the bike, for 80% of the price. I am really torn by that ngl, because I also was looking at one of these. They're incredibly cheap here in europe, dropping below 6k usd (post taxes) because people just don't quite buy enough to sell the inventory fast enough.
@josephboyd-eb5gu2 ай бұрын
i definently think that the issues are different when it comes to the sport and the stock heritage becuase the only issue that i run into with my 700clx sport is the cruise control. also from what ive seen from other riders if you get the gear indicator replaced it fixes that issue
@marvinpena81132 ай бұрын
Great video Burch !! 🤙🏽
@700clx2Ай бұрын
Your cons are valid but you are missing a few things. Most important is that your 2022 bike has a 2 year unlimited mileage warranty. Before that 2 years is up purchase the additional 4 year Extended Warranty. Here in NY it costs only $580. Take it to one of the over 200 dealers in the US and get the Cruise Control issue resolved. CFMOTO has been around for over 20 years making quads and side x sides. In January 2024 they announced a majority partnership with Yamaha to build and sell bikes in China. To avoid the potential "Chinese junk" branding instead of making their own components they wisely outsourced by building the CLX with KYB suspension, Continental ABS, Bosch fuel injection, Pirelli tires, and licensing this motor from Kawasaki. I now have 18,875 miles on my CLX since October 2022. Nearly 10k of those miles were put on the bike between October and March during the long cold Upstate New York winter when I had no troubles at all. I still have the Cruise Control Gear indicator problem after they installed the completely redesigned gear sensors and engine case. But CFMOTO is still trying. So far they have replaced the sensors numerous times, the entire wiring harness, throttle assembly, and ECU. The dealer has called to say they are waiting for the MCU which feeds data to the gauge/dashboard. For other problems they also changed both intake manifolds and the fuel sensor under the original warranty. I can say with absolute certainty that the Cruise Control/Gear Indicator is a heat related issue. I put thousands of miles on the bike over the long cold Upstate New York winters without a single episode. As soon as the temperatures go above 70°F it acts up but only in 6th gear for extended distances above 75mph. I've done 450+ miles in a single day on public roads with little traffic ranging from 35mph-55mph in 4th through 6th gears without a problem. It was 92° on July 9th 2024 and I rode 18 miles at 55mph in 6th gear with no problem. I got on the NYS Thruway and less than 10 miles into my trip with the Cruise Control set at 80mph with no traffic the bike went into limp mode. It's the heat. I really rely on the Cruise due to rheumatoid arthritis in my hands so I keep testing/trying/helping them find the solution. If more owners went to their dealers to have the updated parts installed there would be more data for CFMOTO to process and hopefully they'll spend more to find the solution. Thanks for your honest review and please keep posting more of them.
@cedrickdaveforbes65452 ай бұрын
Same thing happened to my 450SR saying it's in neutral then when i let go of the clutch it just stalled.
@user-xd8ng9fc2mАй бұрын
Yup looks just like you said a Temu FTR!!!!! And yup looks great!!
@_nopestr2 ай бұрын
The only thing I can see is the title that's supposed to say "Do I REGRET not buying the Indian FTR" 🤣🤣. But, jokes aside, I see your points. Completely understand where you're coming from. But, if I don't trust the bike, no amount of financial incentives is going to convince me to ride it. Trust is everything.
@peeweeabanco72412 күн бұрын
i have the sport version, the bike is good but the after sales of cfmoto is horrible, spare parts are next to impossible to acquire
@lonniecross46982 ай бұрын
600 miles in two months? You haven't ridden it enough.
@stephenbarabas62862 ай бұрын
😂 average a whole 10 or less miles a day he's damn near wore the tires down
@kalaharimine2 ай бұрын
I suppose the styling wouldn't be so bad if the back end hadn't fallen off?
@carldietz976722 сағат бұрын
Sounds like your gear indicater sensor needs to be looked at.
@pdspeh6910 күн бұрын
HOW did you find this for $2500. that's an insane deal.
@Bajker4ever15 күн бұрын
CfMoto CLX uses bored out engine from Kawasaki ER6, N8nja 650, Versys 650, Vulcan 650 models, so it should feel more like those, not Suzuki SV650, although they have similar power.
@Etb3232 ай бұрын
The “bike thinking its neutral but it’s in 1st” does happen to me with my Svartpilen. I always start the bike using the clutch, so no problem there, but that has happened to me at stoplights making the bike stall and making me looking like a noob lol. Also it’s a pain with the Svart to find neutral. In the end I think that CF Moto sources several parts from KTM, so it could be a general KTM issue.
@0TurboxКүн бұрын
Thought the Svarty has adjustable clutch levers, you should try these first.
@marchettejw2 ай бұрын
here you are ripping around on a 700cc chinese bike and I'm over here ripping around my town on a 1978 Honda Trail 90...
@ddorko2 ай бұрын
I have both. The trail 90 will always be my absolute favorite.
@marchettejw2 ай бұрын
@@ddorko I just got mine last week, and got it running again. It’s an absolute riot to run on the streets.
@stanadams871812 күн бұрын
If you leave your bike in 1st gear when you stop and park it, there is less chance of it rolling forward off the kickstand.
@k3y15516 күн бұрын
The biggest problem with CFMoto, looking beyond Andy issues as a new/young company, is largely the geopolitical context of them being a Chinese company. Whether that’s something worth discussing on a motorcycle channel is another matter entirely, but that is why much of the hostility toward the company exists, and it is only amplified on the threads complaining about their reliability issues. CFMoto, like the country they’re based out of, is guilty of IP theft by rehashing these bikes. It’s so apparent that the 800NK (believe I have the right model) used KTM branded oil filters because it was essentially the 790 Duke that KTM manufactures in China. Even some statements made by KTM alluded to acceptance that rhe 790 Duke would receive this treatment upon sourcing its production to China. While this might not entirely be the case across all of their bikes, the company, as per standard in China, is at least partially owned by the Chinese government, thereby directly supporting the USA’s ideological/economic rival. For many people, this is a nonstarter despite not articulating it in a KZfaq/social media comment. For the question of why it’s so cheap comparatively, China has used an economic policy of deflating their currency to drown out other competitors with how cheap their products can be. Combine that with a less-than-stellar record on employee treatment and the fact the bike was essentially developed by another brand for you, and you have a recipe for a cheap bike.
@mikec9162Ай бұрын
Lack of CF Moto credibility could also stem from the fact that by comparison all the major motorcycle brands have put in the work over decades with R&D and that shows in the attention to detail of their finished products. I can't speak for others, but that alone earns my trust and willingness to pay a little more for one of those brands.
@organicorgins5762 ай бұрын
The start in neutral is a weird place in the transmission, it clicks in5i 2nd gear causing that jerk, have to ensure neutral, i start the bikr with clutch pulled in just incase of this gear positioning jump
@xtc2v2 ай бұрын
All bikes should have a snotch that locks the kick stand when the weight of the bike is on it. Harley has this
@karlfonner75892 ай бұрын
You’re a wise man already. Take it for me I’m 63, a motorcycle is not a machine you want to be overconfident on
@winduncan981816 күн бұрын
How old is it? 65% depreciation is a poop load! Electrical issues, build quality, etc. My guess is 3-5 years of ownership a MT07/XSR would be a less expensive better ownership experience.