DO INDUCTION KITS REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE?? 🤔 N57 3.5" Performance Air Intake!! 💨
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7 ай бұрынWhen tuning the N57 engine, we noticed a few restrictions cropping up that we wanted to improve on to give it that little extra kick! One of these restrictions being the standard air box!
So we have developed a 3.5" downpipe and a 3.5" induction kit for the F Series 30d/35d/40d to make sure the engine is receiving as much air as it possibly can!
And what better way to test it than on a 403hp 330d and a 443hp 335d 😈
BMW ECU Tuning - www.darksidedevelopments.co.u...
BMW F Series 30d / 35d / 40d 3.5" Performance Air Intake / Induction Kit - www.darksidedevelopments.co.u...
BMW N57 / N57N / N57Z 3.5" DPF Delete Downpipe - Straight Pipe - www.darksidedevelopments.co.u...
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@stevenkerry3101 7 ай бұрын
great work once again i love watching these types of tuning videos 👍👍
@kisskissg60 7 ай бұрын
Great to see some development going into redesigning the standard air intake on the 30/35 bmw at last.👍
@andrewb9456 7 ай бұрын
Top boys once again, creeping closer to that 500hp everyone wants to see. Id love to see the difference on the road between this spec and a deleted mapped 35d Love the work as always!
@keithryan9314 7 ай бұрын
The throttle response from the looks of it is instant 😊 Danny
@carnut9193 7 ай бұрын
Great content and great results. Keen for some B57 testing with similar mods
@user-hj2gc5nr4f 5 ай бұрын
Looking forward to seeing where this goes, would be interested in buying one. good work guys.
@okey100 7 ай бұрын
Awesome video guys loving your work on these BMW’s I’d love to get mine into you one day.
@atw4l690 7 ай бұрын
Awesome gain guy’s
@whatta7793 6 ай бұрын
Wish we had a shop like your guys here in the states!
@keithryan9314 7 ай бұрын
Dark side doing us proud with the old oil burners😊
@nomad6638 7 ай бұрын
The return of "Mental"... YES 😁👌🏻 Nice work fellas, keep it up 😎👍🏻
@easyerc2226 7 ай бұрын
Ok so I’ve been waiting for this for ages 😂😂 I need one
@Aizman87 5 ай бұрын
Impressive!
@ricowswave1324 7 ай бұрын
The N57 engine platforms are highly capable even a simple map can see good figures let alone upgrading intakes boost etc.
@danielmarshall4587 7 ай бұрын
Praise be.
@TeamAtterz 7 ай бұрын
So its me being boring as always but the likely reason they had to squash the stock pipe will be to do with clearance to the bonnet dictated by crash regulation and the movement of the engine (dynamic clearance). Its so if a human ends up on the bonnet the bonnet has some give before hitting the top of the engine. Looks awesome by the way, always tempted by a 435d!
@H6NTY435D 7 ай бұрын
Guess i've gotta book my 435d in for more work then!
@RealGX 7 ай бұрын
0-60 is very impressive. 100-200 not so much but nice work overall.
@johnshaw8013 7 ай бұрын
What Dewalt fan can provide more air to a 3.0ltr twin turbo engine running over 20psi boost? The air going up the ram pipe at 100mph is going to be magnitudes more than an electric fan can produce!
@keithryan9314 7 ай бұрын
For that level of power rear wheel drive would be like a bull in a China shop 😂
@chickenmatiasevich 7 ай бұрын
That’s awesome. What year cars are they? Cheers
@DarksideDevelopments 7 ай бұрын
2015
@mightdiesel6pot 7 ай бұрын
Impressive power figures and the 0-60 is amazing for a 1.7t family saloon. A couple of things I'm assuming: the engine cover can't be fitted due to the enlarged cross pipe diameter and a strut brace would be the same.
@DarksideDevelopments 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, engine cover wont fit anymore, not sure about a strut brace
@covingtonrace1 7 ай бұрын
Not if its sucking air from the engine bay, nice cold air feeds from outside with a box to separate the engine bay heat. What about a hot summer in town with traffic, surely its gonna heat soak breathing from the engine bay?
@carnut9193 7 ай бұрын
If you hot lapped it possibly. However, 8.10s in the 100 - 200 is a result that speaks for itself. Looks tricky to design a high flow filter system for that space.
@Dan23_7 7 ай бұрын
Intercoolers/charge coolers sort that out. No vehicle on the planet will get perfectly cold air sat in traffic 🤷🏽
@stevejones224 7 ай бұрын
Turbo cars doesn’t really matter where it is as the intercooler does its job anyway so will always increase power. N/A then it won’t make a difference and may lose power
@DarksideDevelopments 7 ай бұрын
How much power do you need in traffic? When moving, the factory cold air feed does a pretty good job at providing the filter with cold air and cooling that size of the engine bay. The 'hot' components (turbo, manifold, downpipe) are seperated by the engine at the other side. As already commented, the IAT's are mainly affected by the efficiency of the turbo and intercooler
@covingtonrace1 7 ай бұрын
@@DarksideDevelopments The lower you start with the better surely? breathing air from the engine bay is always going to be a higher starting temperature than direct from the outside? Especially with pipework snaking around the engine, unless you have a super efficient/large cooler.
@mickeypopa Ай бұрын
This is very interesting work, I'm curious about it. 🤔 I do have a few questions though: 1) is this the stock drive train and if yes, how capable is it to handle substantially increased stress from all the extra power? 2) are egr and dpf deleted on this car, and how would the car perform with the stock setup? and 3) how much additional hardware would be required to handle all this, beside the bigger turbo and intercooler? P.S. I'm interested in 30d since I own F10 530d (July 2015)
@DarksideDevelopments Ай бұрын
Best to email us but the Transmission etc all seem happy!
@mickeypopa Ай бұрын
@@DarksideDevelopments Ok, thanks! 👍
@leeantoniades8744 7 ай бұрын
NVM. Hold my beer.
@mclovingtjuk8974 7 ай бұрын
So the old software, 3.5 Down pipe and new intake actually looks like the better drivable result, but slightly less peak power… below 2k the 3” with new intake and the 3.5” with new intake and software revision seem to both loose like 100lbft and 50 or so bhp? It’s hard to see because of graph colour - do you think cams make a difference here? It looks awesome regardless, just an interesting observation.
@DarksideDevelopments 7 ай бұрын
This can be just how the dyno loads it up but realistically the gearbox will always drop down to above 2000rpm when accelerating so you would never notice a difference on the road. Cams would likely make a small difference on this too but quite a lot of work for smaller gains when at this level
@BigHumz155 7 ай бұрын
Do the N57/B57 suffer from chain issues? Are the issues exaggerated when you tune them like this??
@DarksideDevelopments 7 ай бұрын
They can have issues but the 6 cylinder diesels normally display signs when the chain is worn, a rattle from cold for a few seconds for example. It is rare the chains on these just snap without prior warning unlike the N47 engines.
@craigrobinson5498 3 ай бұрын
What happened to the botten end of the graph on the 30d after in intake 🧐
@DarksideDevelopments 3 ай бұрын
This can be just how the dyno loads it up but realistically the gearbox will always drop down to above 2000rpm when accelerating so you would never notice a difference on the road
@JAK2308 7 ай бұрын
I’m looking at getting a 30d xdrive, considering it’s xdrive would I better off getting the 35d ?
@DarksideDevelopments 6 ай бұрын
The 35d are are better out of the box but the 30d can also be upgraded and usually a bit cheaper to purchase in the first place.
@kevincerin3618 5 ай бұрын
The single turbo ones also sound way better,the 35d sounds good but more like a jet moving,whereas the 30d has a deeper growl
@IT_Scientist 15 күн бұрын
How do you get 400hp on it? I barely have ˜300hp with +-650nM on my F11 N57D30A Stage1 with 2.1bar and my intake is different the big round one on top..
@DarksideDevelopments 15 күн бұрын
We have a tuning guide here for the N57's - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/Blog/tuning-the-bmw-x30d-n57n-n57d30a-30-diesel-engine/ For any further advise on parts, drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk with reg/vin and we can help you out
@TheDragerboy 7 ай бұрын
So is the blue 335D on Hybrid turbos??
@DarksideDevelopments 7 ай бұрын
It is yeah - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/bmw-f-series-35d-40d-performance-hybrid-bi-turbo-upgrade.html
@johnshaw8013 7 ай бұрын
So how long will the ZF 8HP70 gearbox last when max recommended torque for that box is circa 700Nm
@DarksideDevelopments 7 ай бұрын
Time will tell but we've done plenty and they are still going strong with ridiculous power
@johnshaw8013 7 ай бұрын
@@DarksideDevelopments how much for that tune., intercooler etc... I've got am F30 335d 😁
@johnshaw8013 7 ай бұрын
All the 335d guys round here keep recommending a guy called Glen in North Wales 😉 Do you know him, apparently he's a legend on the scene!
@DarksideDevelopments 7 ай бұрын
We know Glen, just drop us an email!
@stephencoll236 7 ай бұрын
What kind of increase would WMI add to this setup?
@DarksideDevelopments 7 ай бұрын
should be similar to other projects.
@stephencoll236 7 ай бұрын
Nice, so with WMI and a revised tune it might hit 500bhp. Incredible work as always. I've got a 435d running your intercooler and a quantum tune.....saving up for the 3.5" downpipe, WMI and custom tune, cams too ideally....
@davebgsi 7 ай бұрын
Does it change the noise of the car?
@DarksideDevelopments 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, you get some intake noise
@modermonkula 7 ай бұрын
That's the only reason i fit an intake is more noise
@MyEduard2010 3 ай бұрын
Do you have solutions for N57 oil pumps? i think they need an upgrade:))
@DarksideDevelopments 3 ай бұрын
We've not come across any issues personally yet and we've not got any upgrades but it's something we may look into
@MyEduard2010 3 ай бұрын
@@DarksideDevelopments It`s a common problem for N57 that after 200k km it start to eat rods. Looks like the oil pump it`s not doing it`s job very well. An improved oil pump and a heat shield for the bottom of the engine might solve the problem
@DarksideDevelopments 3 ай бұрын
We'll have a look into it!
@marcelhartmans 7 ай бұрын
When you do this for the M57?
@DarksideDevelopments 7 ай бұрын
Not sure yet, might be something we look into
@marcelhartmans 7 ай бұрын
Better question, is it necessary because I’ve heard that on the M57 it isn’t really a problem?
@mapyn131 7 ай бұрын
is it losing power on the airbox below 2000rpm?
@DarksideDevelopments 7 ай бұрын
This is just how the dyno loads it up but realistically the gearbox will always drop down to above 2000rpm when accelerating
@kevincerin3618 5 ай бұрын
Can you put the cover back if you run this intake?the engine cover*
@DarksideDevelopments 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately not, no
@joshhiggins4186 4 ай бұрын
What’s the full spec on this?
@DarksideDevelopments 4 ай бұрын
Not got one unfortunately, but it's had the intercooler, Hybrid turbo, x50d fuel pump, injector upgrade, custom remap and exhaust to name a few
@lewisconnell1234 7 ай бұрын
Anything for b57
@DarksideDevelopments 7 ай бұрын
Not as of yet
@flam7469 5 ай бұрын
Still looking for an air intake replacement for a 2009 730d. Anyone???
@DarksideDevelopments 5 ай бұрын
drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk with reg/ vin and we can take a look for you
@flam7469 4 ай бұрын
@@DarksideDevelopments did that beginning of the month, you guys said there's nothing suitable. :(
@radoslawrojek7032 7 ай бұрын
750 lb-ft ? When the zfhp70 box will give up then ??
@DarksideDevelopments 7 ай бұрын
It's a ZF8HP in the BMW, they are strong boxes
@radoslawrojek7032 7 ай бұрын
@@DarksideDevelopments surely 1000NM is too much
@DarksideDevelopments 7 ай бұрын
We've tuned a few with similar figures that have been going for years with no issues
@NStarvo 3 ай бұрын
I want everything mentioned lol
@DarksideDevelopments 3 ай бұрын
Drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk with reg/vin for the full list of parts and costs including labour ;)
@otacon4065 7 ай бұрын
Get your Section 59's out of the LADS!
@AudriusPower 7 ай бұрын
Any 1/4 mile test?
@DarksideDevelopments 7 ай бұрын
We don't, it would be interesting to see. The 100-200kph results are good comparing them to the OG battle times.
@AudriusPower 7 ай бұрын
@@DarksideDevelopments 100-200 yes very good and 0-60 very good so 1/4 must be 11.5 or lower
@jamesianson8586 3 ай бұрын
3.2s :----) that is rs6 pace....
@DarksideDevelopments 3 ай бұрын
👀
@zanarif8310 7 ай бұрын
If you get your car here, you might aswell have bought and M4 in the first place
@lilvfr400boy 7 ай бұрын
Problem is the m cars will being doing 15mpg doing this , less torque so won’t have the same feeling inside. Obviously the m will handle far better and sound arguably a little nicer (not that you can hear them a whole lot when inside ) but can see why someone would do this
@zanarif8310 7 ай бұрын
@@lilvfr400boyyeh mate fair play .. pros and cons
@lilvfr400boy 7 ай бұрын
@@zanarif8310 definitely, last week went in a friends r32 that’s been supercharged and his m2 stage 1 - mentally the r32 felt so much more dramatic with the noise and torque etc but the m2 speed wise was next level 😂 stage 2 335d x drive is the fastest diesel I’ve been in and that felt like a missile as it was to torque strong 🙂 hard to compare the two without seeing numbers on a draggy or similar
@BigHumz155 7 ай бұрын
Way, WAY more torque than an M4 and much higher fuel economy
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