I think the general opinion going around is that idols today are a lot less talented than they used to be (vocally). Although it may be somewhat true focus on vocals has shifted away, it *depends more in the year of kpop than the generation in my opinion.* Especially if you notice the first half of 3rd gen (closer 2nd gen standards) to the latter half of 3rd gen (closer to 4th gen vocally). 2020 to 2021 has been the most severe case of 100% lip sync stages I've seen so far but live singing has come in and out of popularity since the 1st gen.

Still don't know why SM is having all their artists lip sync during their stages now when their biggest selling point is their vocalists

You know how dead Tae looked lip singing GOT, she looked so bored and didn't even try to pretend to be having fun or match her mouth to the notes.

When I (rarely) watch a “live” stage now I usually think, “This is pointless, I may as well just watch the MV.”

The juxtaposition of live stages / lipsynch stage really shows how less interesting it is to watch mutiple stages now since they are essentially the exact same performance with different clothes and different camera angles.

when some people said things like "it was live, but the backtrack was too loud". see I don't understand that, I don't see the point in singing live if we can't hear their voices over the loud backtrack.

I never notices how extreme it got. I remember live stages being so normal before but they're completley gone. I can't believe how many stages by talented singers like Red velvet, Taeyeon, Suju Ikon etc are 100% lips sync now. Mamamoo's new bragging rights will no longer be "they always sing live" to "at least they sing live sometimes" because it's so rare D=

My biggest pet peeve is when idols use a hand mic for their performances, meant for people when they sing LIVE... And they still choose(well technically not them, it is their company's choice) to lipsync. Like what even is the the f*cking point? Kpop is a dance competition right now. Look at Nmixx, the girls have more than decent vocals and Jyp decided to waste all that and make them a performance group(which is basically majority of what 4th gen groups are). Also nowadays there are a lot of kpop dance cover channels on KZfaq, and I've been noticing that the dancers they have are usually people with idol like features and body proportions and they also do all those facial expressions and perform the song. Apart from the idol training and variety shows, what makes all those kpop groups who never sing live different from these dancers? The dancers don't sing, nor do they rap, they dance and perform. The idols do the same thing. I'm just tired of this bs.

I rememer how in 2010 Taeyeon said “I hope Music Bank creates an environment for singers to do better” but after being in the industry for 15 years, she has already given up. This is also one of her abilities, to adapt to the changing times. I'll go see her singing live at one of her concerts

ive noticed choreos are becoming harder, like way harder, to the point where its obvious they arent expecting them to sing live so they make it hard as hell. This goes for newer groups. The kpop market is trying to be perfected i guess but theres no point in live stages anymore. It might as well be a dance practice video. I hope taeyeon goes on tour again, i miss live stages with live bands at times.

Another thing I just noticed is that the amount of stages idols do has decreased. Like how before around 2009 idols had like 20 stages and now they have like 8 stages

I hope STAYC can one day popularize live singing again 🍀

It's not fair to say Taeyeon doesn't value live singing anymore and only use music shows as proof. She sings live literally any where else she performs. Music Shows are quite literally the only place she lipsyncs and that's for dance songs only.

It's legit how the audience still thinks their idols can sound inhumanly stable while dancing to back breaking choreos, it's beyond dumb. The fans easily get pleased by hard choreos and perfect expressions lol they don't even care abt the vocals, thus idols don't work on it anymore. It's an industry in the end and it's gonna take up tactics that helps them capitalize stuff. But there still are exceptions like stayc ans seventeen. Seventeen said how they used to sing while running during their trainee days, nowadays idols train for 1-2 years only working dances and still make it to the top..

It's actually depressing. I got into Kpop because of the vocals in 2014. Not a lot of new western artists are powerhouse vocals, but now it's just noise.

Sm and yg are the worst offenders these days. Kinda ironic they were the ones known for being live beasts but now they're nothing special

shinee is another interesting case. almost always live before last year, including 2018, and then in 2021 i’m not sure if we ever got a live stage for don’t call me/atlantis. what’s interesting is that key made a point of going on sketchbook and having at least 1 live for bad love (which was great! though probably a bit touched up), and he explicitly said that he really wanted to come to sketchbook. given how much control he had over promotions/etc i’m also pretty sure it was his own idea, not sm’s. it seems like there are a fair amount of idols that really do want to sing live again, idk why sm has become so obsessed with lip sync :( probably covid

Stayc is just so talented, and their company goes out of their way to show their range and real talent! I love that so much

It's sort of depressing when you realize that there are groups who debuted over a year ago who have only done lipsynced performances. There has to be a balance between putting on an entertaining performance, and just plain unreasonable expectations.

I didn't think it would be this bad. The difference from the groups past eras is jarring

mamamoo are seriously queen of vocal live stage. idk if they’re just so bad at lip synching or just never bothered to show us they’re lip synching when they have to 😂 (which is very rare). it’s sad that because of the pandemic, all “live” stages are pre-recorded and undoubtedly have gone through many stages of editing, and “typical” korean media, they want their artists to be as perfect as possible and just edited their vocals into pre-recorded version

I panicked when I saw BP - DDDD was 2015 but then checked and it was 2018, so that change was over a much shorter time.

stacy is holding the kpop flag actually. they did their best

Now I am even afraid of Taeyeon going to music shows. It degrades her more and more in my opinion. I love her so so much for 13 years. The main aspect of her voice that I love is emotion and now I think she lost a bit of it cuz of lip-syn. I hope pandemic gets better and we get to hear Taeyeon concert again soon. I still love her and will do in the future too❤️

Just one more reason why D4 was blackpinks most superior era that they've yet to top. 🤷‍♂

When I see this thumbnail I think about Mamamoo 😭 they don't use hand mic anymore

Idols aren't totally to blame It's mostly because of fans validating uselesss things over real talents and skills e.g rap songs and rappers r more popular these days but tbh kpop rappers suck .most of them aren't even rappers they were visuals who couldn't sing so they became rappers who can't rap but ppl believe they are rare gems and talented. I believe if ppl listened to real artists instead of big companies this lip sync problems wouldn't exist. I hope in the future fans understand how good their faves are at lying to them and real groups become trendy and popular

I’m going to give SME a little slack for not know how to properly give their idols varied back tracks to lip sync to (and their idols are terrible at lip syncing…). This is because we know that their artists generally don’t need to lip sync to sound good. But yeah, they need to figure that asap. In my opinion, Taeyeon and Ning Ning look so done with lip syncing or not being able to be heard over the backtrack in some performances. And I was so disappointed to see Red Velvet lip syncing during “Queendom” performances when they’d sing live during some encore performances and sounded great (and you could tell that they were singing live because their vocals weren’t perfect). And if people care so much about the fourth gen’s vocals, just stan Aespa, Purple Kiss, and StayC (and any other groups I’md not thinking of).

I'm pissed that power vocal soloists like Taeyeon and even the newly debuted Yuju have to use backtrack. They dont frickin need it and its an insult to their talents. Edit: Changed the word autotune to backtrack. Realised I used the wrong word for this context

live performances are taking a hit bc of fandom behavior and yes im very confident in saying that - nowadays a grp actually sings live (or at the very least live > backtrack) and they get relentlessly attacked, same with encore stages. i cant count the amount of times ive seen the same clips of idols making a mistake bc *surprise* that will eventually happen if they're actually singing live, no matter how good they are. i think companies would rather not deal w that when they dont have to and i cant blame them.

I also notice the "market change" I think survival shows contributes a lot to this phenomenon. Back then, chungha got viral because her freestyle dance. Since then people expect every group's dance line to do the same. Gfriend's double speed dance also became popular on the exact same year, groups were asked to do double speed dance. Then chungha successfully debuted under IOI. She was asked a lot to do freestyle dance. Following the success of IOI, there were so many new survivals show where all the trainee came from various agencies. Many of the agencies sent powerful dancers rather than powerful vocal. They know the show can manipulate the singing skills but can't do the same for dance skills. That's why the later survival shows has less skilled vocalist rather than the older survival shows. Not too mention after the pandemic era people got so bored and tiktok became way more popular than ever. So people start using it and do the dance trends. That's all making dance skills way favorable than singing. Back then we had immortal songs, now we have SWF. Back then idols do high note battle, now they do dance challenges. There are so rare idols who do sing challenges on tiktok. They really do pay attention to dance a lot by now.

we cant rlly blame the idols for this :( most of them performed live better. its disappointing these companies, producer, backstages wanting them to lip sync for the most stage when we want to hear their real voice so bad ;;;; I dont think 4th gen is also as talented as 3rd but they barely have a chance to show off their vocals :(

This is why 2nd and 3rd gen idols are superior. These days idols focus on the aesthetics, introducing acrobatic dance music, mash up experimental music. It's boring tbh because their repeated performances would get boring. It's for the same reason I listen to American pop. U can hear live-singing and some semblance of personal identities in their performances.

Of all the 4th gen right now, I can say that Stayc really did great of being stable while singing live. As a rookie group, that is one of a heck talented group they got there. You can hear their voices and breathing even with minimal backtracks. Stayc is literally bringing back live singing performance even debuting during pandemic. edit: some of ya'll mention skz & itzy, I do agree that they are great in performing live but most of their songs are actually focused on rapping and has few parts that actually belts out high notes. Also, comparing live vocals of those who debuted in 2017-2018 to those with 2019-2020 is ??? ofc they will have more live performance... anyway, stayc will always be slayc.

Imagine going from holding your microphone in your hand and ripping out your vocal chords singing your own song while dancing to now just..... holding the microphone 😭 If I had to use an example off of the top of my head, TXT had multiple performances with physical microphones and yet, not once were those microphones turned on. Most of their performances were pre-recorded and a lot of Moas like to say that it's live but babe, Kai is throwing himself around the stage with that mic stand and his voice is not faltering at all 💀 (this isn't hate, I actually really like the boys and their songs). And I don't even wanna start with Aespa, it's almost as if SM built them as perfectly manufactured robots to the point that if they sang live and you could hear their voice naturally wavering because of the choreography, they would be deemed "untalented". And the fact that SM is known as the company with "vocal strength" but they never let their idols show off that strength is baffling to me. Not to mention that now choreo is made to break every bone in your body to the point that even if you tried to sing, you wouldn't be able to from the immense amounts of movement happening. Like, look at NMIXX who just debuted. Their choreo is literally made up of so much jumping and leg twisting, hell, one move is literally them turning their whole body around from the ground.. tf? The only group that I can confidently say I hear partially sing or really try to sing live is Ateez even if their choreo is made up of so much like body thrusting and shit 😭 What's the point of holding a mic when you aren't even using it? For "aesthetic" purposes??? Live singing in the 1st, 2nd and the half of the 3rd gen went from being an necessity to now being just a "oh, we'll let you do this once just so people don't attack you" 💀

If I remember it correctly, Taeyeon’s last concert is held in 2020 or late 2019, so we have no doubt about her talent but I really don’t understand why SM choose to let their idol lip-sync despite having most powerhouses in company.

I actually have no problem with Taeyeon not singing in music shows cause I already how capable she is and with how SM manages their artists comeback stages, I doubt they would even allow her to sing live unless she's singing a ballad. Everyone sone or any TY fan knows that she performs best when she's doing a concert where there is a live band. Have you seen the fancams in her concerts?!

Thank you for this video; it's not like 4th gen idols just all can't sing, it's the entire industry that is doing more and more lipsynching, no matter what generation the group is from.

To be honest some fans dont even care anymore if their idols can sing or not. some just care about performance (dance, projection) so long as the idol smile or wave and move their hips fans would pay. That is how low the kpop industry has become. You cant even ask idols now to sing on the spot since they would probably boycott the show nextime. If the fans would just demand for live performances and stop being so blinded, the big 3 would then go back to being purist. If the standard has gotten low its not because it is the "trend" its because the fans just allowed it. I mean some idols even got their unreleased album soldout even before their first debut (buying a product without even knowing that it works has become the trend, honestly) so why would you expect agencies to do better. The company's only objective is to earn. Why would they care if their product is good. if the market dont care about quality. Its just about supplying the demand (economics) if the demand is for manufactured talents that have subpar skills, then why go extra the mile, right? Maybe its the fans that should start changing their mindset lets go back to the "we deserve better" mentality like the old days. Where products were made to last for more than just 1 generation and more purposeful. Its time to ask for intrinsic value.

to be honest, even with taeyeon's newest dingo killing verse, they decided to touch it up in post as if she hasn't been singing for almost 16 years?? it was just kind of uncanny hearing every note being sung perfectly in pitch when i *know* how good she sounds live (eg. her begin again performances in berlin) edit: jesus christ the comments. first of all, i've been a taeyeon bias for 8 years, this comes out of no place of hatred for her. second, nowhere am i blaming taeyeon for this or even SUGGESTING she can't sing. this is specifically about DINGO over-pitch correcting her voice, making it sound tinny and robotic, which everyone and their mother knows *she.* *doesn't.* *need.* especially when they're trying to pass the video off as completely "live and raw" vocals with no post-editing.

i actually love hearing idols' voice weavering while doing hard choreos, the sound of their breathing and their pure vocals it makes the song sound actually more alive

As many kpop fans stated, the reason is simple and obvious, the industry as a whole (fans, knetz, specialists ...) Don't value live singing anymore just because it shows the flows in the idols (it shows that they are human beings who get tired when they sing and dance at the same time). Every company focus more on performance, choreo, charisma more than vocal performance and that's freaking sad personally I love row vocals that's why till this day I love SM artists acoustic performances especially EXO's

The main reason why I want audience back in music shows, so kpop artists don’t have to pretend anymore Hope that the covid situation will be over soon

Tbh, kpop these days really focus on stage presence, or you can say dance well. I think because they can manipulate how they sing but can't manipulate how they move, so it's really rare to see idol performing without autotune. World changes, i know it, but that's kinda sad :(

Companies prioritizing a perfect image is partly the fault of the public that always expects perfection from idols, at any minor mistake they have they make very cruel comments

2nd gen: vocals > dance Most of 3rd gen/4th gen: dance > vocals I think the reason that 2nd gen lip sync now is because they need to adapt to the more current trends, which is performance, also resulting in them lip syncing. In past 2nd gen performances, they stand still when it's their part or are doing less intense moves. While 2nd gen have at least proven their vocals in the past, newer groups haven't been able to because of the newer value on dancing and performance over vocals. This results in choreo being too difficult to sing live and the overall lower quality of vocals as dance is valued more.

I'm gonna be really dramatic and go on a long winded rant for a sec. Life right now has been ass but one of the highlights of it has been Kpop. I've technically been a fan since 2010 but I didn't REALLY get into it until 2014. Kpop used to hit so good for me that I always turned to it when I needed a pick-me-up. But I shit you not, NMIXX's new song has made me feel like crap since I've heard it. Because it's everything I hate about "new" kpop. Loud rapping, too much noise, over complicated dances (I don't mind it but the second I see it I know they are never going to sing live.), ect. ect. Also personal gripe, not having an audience has made watching performances, especially repeat performances, WAAAY more boring to watch. I never realized how having people cheer the members names at the beginning and end or shouting out the words in the songs could impact a stage. It just makes it more meaningful. And since their not singing live anyway, their is literally no point to watching them past like one or two. If the only thing that changes from stage to stage are the outfits I'm just not gonna care about watching it.

It's truly sad, all of the fakeness. Red Velvet has repeatedly proven that they don't need autotune/lip syncing. I get that it's necessary to use it someone in whichever group is ill and loses their voice - The Show Must Go On, after all. But, most of these groups don't need the 'help' that's forced upon them.

I think this video was very much needed, since it seems like the blame for the lack of live vocals goes almost always only towards 4th gen idols. Every time I see someone complain about how "4th gen is just a dance show" they mention the lack of live singing, but clearly 2nd and 3rd gen groups lipsync as well, that's the current MAIN TREND. I'm pretty hopeful though, that especially after live audiences can come back to the music shows, live singing is going to become more popular again. Big companies (esp. SM) don't seem to be changing their course anytime soon, but this is just the chance for groups from smaller/mid-size companies to show their skillset, when the more popular groups are "holding something back". Just like StayC and ATEEZ take pride in their live stages and have gained recognition because of it, I think there will be more debuts as well of groups who market their live vocals heavily. I hope the changes can come sooner rather than later, since live stages have just that little something that keeps me going back to them. The songs aren't even my favorite title tracks from ATEEZ, but I've watched their The Real, Eternal Sunshine and Fireworks music show performances probably hundreds of times combined, because they are my favorite *live performances* - the energy just can't be captured in a studio version, and every stage is slightly different. (In case anyone wants to check out what I mean, here's a couple examples:) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d7mVmK9-qpzPcac.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/isqFqbqDutbMZ4U.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oK95lM92ztjeg4k.html

Instead of "Live Sing", shows should label "Live Dance" instead if they are just gonna be a prettier version of a dance video. I don't think idols are afraid to sing live. It feels more like the industry is trying to achieve absolute perfection in performances and decides to eliminate "live sing" because it is impossible to sing perfect while delivering visual stunning dance act.

as someone who's been into kpop for 10 years now, I can def see the difference and how live performances are less and less common, and it's sad bc it's not like the idols lack the talent

If you guys still doubt Taeyeon singing skill in Dingo then watch her Begin again and comment me if you still disagree with her skill, but dont judge book by its cover if you dont know the FACT !!!

a much needed video! I hate backtracks with a passion. these companies try to sell something that doesn't exist with no respect for the artists..

Recently, I’ve been narrowing down the groups I stan. For emotional energy and because it’s exhausting.

Honestly, i miss kpop old era

I love Red Velvet live. They have beautiful voices and don’t need to lip sync. SM stop making your groups do this. I much prefer the imperfections that occasionally happen, to the robotic sounds of synchronized perfection. Ugh.

7:23 DDD came out in 2018. I got really scared when I read DDD is from 2015, I felt way older than I am hahaha.

Um Oh Ah Yeh was an amazing era... I miss adlib Mamamoo!

some people:Why is the part distribution focused too much on skillful member ? some people:Why doesn't the recent kpop industry value singing skills? me:You two should fight.

My idol tries to sing live when she is on Vlive. I don't think she is very good in technique, but i love how she is singing LIVE for us. You can search HeeJin cover Vlive, you can see many videos.

The issue lies with the audience who stopped caring for real vocals and real live performances. They do not research anymore on what they should be hearing and how live is supposed to sound like. They just blindly accept or think that pre-recs are 'live'.

I remember when AOA or After School’s or 9muses live performances were sooo interesting because they were live or mostly live and it gave a better feel than just boring dance practices on stage all the time

after this, i still believe Live singing can be trend again... 😊

can we talk about our gem Dayoung singing live in 2022, so loud, over a loud-ass backtrack during Super Yuppers stages? like my jaw really dropped when I heard her

I must say Purple Kiss also has amazing singing skills, ot7 can sing and more than that. They never miss a chance to sing live in every vlive they have.

It's because of the choreography really. The latest generation of kpop idols have some increasingly difficult choreography that singing live is nearly impossible. You really can't deny that people love great choreography and dancing. But because of it the vocals become less important.

The number of music show stages decreased definitely from the lack of audience like what's the point it promoting with a very demanding schedule without meeting your fans

Taeyeon sing in begin again is the best way to show that she can sings live very good. In my opinion, now almost of allmushow stage really just give us sort of "perfect" things, like the visuals, sounds, dances etc. But the live vocals is not the priority, and its really makes me sad and miss the past when all sings live, doesn't care if its perfect or not. Tbh I prefer live vocals than perfect dance with perfect sound (from the recorded songs). Pleaseeee kpopp, just normalize again vocal singing and not perfect dance in the stage, no need "perfect things" that ruined all.......

As a nugu stan, I actually still hear live vocals fairly often but mostly with annoying backtrack sadly... Its a shame companies/broadcasters dont give the girls and boys a chance! Most of the time you really cant hear their singing skills well until they do a vlive and then youre sometimes just shocked at how amazing they are

btw can i say im so happy seeing youre including ikon, especially when rhythm ta was one of their debut titles and they always sang it live despite the hard choreo, theyre really one of the best bgs in terms of live singing. their concerts are amazing! especially i love how donghyuk does his part in rhythm ta in concerts. i wish we could hear yyy or their kingdom perfs live for once tho, it looks so ridiculous when they use pitch correcting and prerecord for people who dont need it lmao their kingdom stages were so funny they didnt even TRY

SM should just appreciate their older artists the fact they can still sing live even today Instead of forcing them to lip sync just for the sake of trends and money.

appreciate the amount of research you put into this!

I am being honest here, as someone who took choir I was told vocals aren’t always important and these companies now are making major mistakes by doing this, what’s the point of having a “Singing” group if there is no singing, it’s a disgrace to music when you lip sync because it’s lazy, and it takes away from the persons real talent, I listen to a lot of rock and metal and a lot of them have to have powerful voices and no matter what anyone says lip sync is not a good thing it’s lazy and manipulative.

It’s low-key on us fans as well. Like seeing how momo from twice got absolutely slaughtered for not singing well in the more and more encore. Ofc these companies don’t want their groups to get caught out for not singing well and thus lowers their profit since ppl won’t support a group that can’t sing live /:

I trust taeyeon's vocal capabilities even if they'll touch up her performances or make her lip sync. That woman doesn't have the highest range and the most great tenchnique, but she's very experienced and tried a lot of genres which made her vocals and herself versatile.

These companies should really stop making hard choreo like hun your singers not backup dancers

New idols are talented too only difference that now companies are very much focused on profit so they put the things which ppl feel pleasure not joy.. Otherwise kpop idol and not talented, doesn't fit well together

What appealed to me to Mamamoo was their live singing and ab-libbing, sad they don't really do that anymore.

Now I understand why I don't watch their performances often now because everything sounds the same.

I'm sad that Beast/Highlight never gets mentionned in the live/lipsync discourse... They always used the MR to help with the tricky parts of their songs but have consistently went to music show with live perfs... Even after they went independent. Though I resent some of the shows for putting some MR over their perfs when airing sometimes when it's clearly not there on their fancams... Yoseob's brain promo was most impressive to me. The song is clearly hard to sing (no time to breathe at times) but he still went breathless rather than to lipsync which is... impressive in today's climate for main vocalists.

I really hate it when the company just make this kind of decision for the idol. They prioritize ‘perfect’ look and dance than the actual singing or the ‘performance’. I kind of understand the music shows, but the year-end award shows are also slowly turning in to lip-sync for your legacy stages. The annual award shows have been boring (I understand the COVID situation, but still…) when it used to be an explosive, energetic, concert-like experience for the audience. The idols themselves cannot come up with new or fun stage concept anymore, and it just turns into a regular music show with bigger stage and bigger audience, which is a shame when you know that’s when the idol should shine the most.

10:03 was truly a magical time. Exo don't sing like that anymore. Chen and baek gave me goosebumps

I think we're forgetting that because of covid live stages were limited so more idols were singing lip sync recently because there was no audience... also idols don't only prove their vocals on stages, they also appear on radio shows, and promote with other things live Dingo music (killing voice, sero live), waiting room live, weekly idol/idol room, its live, etc, so they chances to prove their vocals.

Like it annoys me how reveluvs attack aespa for not singing live.. or hybe stans attacking sm for that.. rarely anyone sings without backtrack often. It's also irritating how bcs of this people online measure a vocalist's ability based on live singing, and having a twisted narrative.

20 stages seems crazy to me especially when they comeback 3-5 times a year?? im glad that the amount of times they perform has decreased but i wish they just sang live ☹️. there is literally no point of watching fancams except for the dancing and visual aspect

I miss the time when idol main job is to sing

No, but everyone should watch Chan's explanation on why prerecorded vocals are a must. In touching up vocals, we should acknowledge Koreans being perfectionists and hate simple mistakes.

I think covid has a lot to do with this trend. If there are no live audience to please or do fan service there is no point in doing it live. Also the trend of having more complicated choreography contributed to this too, it would be hard to sing live while dancing hard and not loose breath. I don't mind idol groups/singers lip syncing, what do you expect from them? By definition idols technically are not singers (they won't be perfect all the time) but at least do live singing at weekend music shows (Mcountdown, music bank, mucore and inkigayo) and pre-recorded live/ backtracks at lesser music shows.

Now... even their encore stage use backtrack vocal

Honestly lately as I start to watch some performance and I realize that the artist isn't singing or rapping live, I immediately stop watching it even if the outfits or the dance is pretty. I just love singing and actually hearing different voices and ways of singing in many situations, but when it's prerecorded... there's basically nothing to enjoy anymore. The only exception may be award shows, where I do watch such stages. I'm just upset that singers don't really sing live anymore, there are only few singers that I could think of, that actually do sing live at least a few times.

I appreciate your explanations about the trends and history of lip syncing in K-Pop at the end ! Very interesting video.

Honestly I feel so bad that they don’t care about vocals anymore.it’s no more vocals which would make a song hit.yuju from gfriend the best 3rd gen idol regressesd a bit too due to constant high notes but I’m happy she’s getting better at her new company and always sings live.

idk how many times ikon lipsync or sing live during why why why but theres definitely one time when they sing live during whywhywhy. cause bobby forgot his line and literally stuttering for few seconds. u cant tell me its not live stage and bobby just lipsync to a stuttering cause it doesn’t make sense

Now i wonder whose fault, the agency or the show management about lipsync and autotune trend

Stayc, weeekly, ateez, treasure, they all sing live with hard performances, in their own concept, it’s totally possible, those big companies should do something or the small ones are going to show them how it’s done

saddest thing is that even idols that CAN SING don't even do it anymore. and honestly fair, because with all the fake perfection, it must be scary to be imperfectly human

prerecording already existed back in 2010. I remembered Jessica pre recorded her Run devil run performance with snsd because she was very sick to sing live and the rest of the girls sang live. And it was already pretty common to use pre record on first week promotion bec of lack of practice with the song.

The quality of live stages of idol really became worse day by day. The trend nowdays is heavy dance rather than powerful vocal like previous days😭 I'm 2nd gen kpopers.

Idk if it's a korean thing but in US I feel like vocals are really appreciated. I cant get away w not being able to sing. Also I think choreo isn't a big deal here.

When actively auditioning for ents and having trainee friends, I got this advice a lot, "They can edit your singing, but they can't edit your dance." Which goes to show what the industry is focused on atm