The idea of Advaita Vedanta is that suffering is brought about by attachment to changing things. The purpose is not knowledge of the true nature of reality for its own sake but the effect of knowing that you are the absolute. I think the Neo Advaitins have done alot of damage by their tendency to believe that wand waving can liberate someone instantly which gives an expectation that it is easy. I like this quote from the Ashtavakra Gita as I feel it encapsulates the raison d'etre of Advaita Vedanta "Bondage is when the mind longs for something, grieves about something, rejects something, holds on to something, is pleased about something or displeased about something. 8.1 Liberation is when the mind does not long for anything, grieve about anything, reject anything, or hold on to anything, and is not pleased about anything or displeased about anything. 8.2 Bondage is when the mind is tangled in one of the senses, and liberation is when the mind is not tangled in any of the senses. 8.3 When there is no “me,” that is liberation, and when there is “me” there is bondage. Consider this carefully, and neither hold on to anything nor reject anything. 8.4

I've spent hundreds of hours listening to spiritual teachers in recent years. I've heard more sense in this 45 minutes than so much of the other teachings put together. Kim articulates better than I could myself exactly what my own experiences and realisations have been, especially the part toward the end about remaining in a neutral position and allowing a higher understanding occur.

This matter illustrates why the Tibetan Buddhists have an injunction on teaching emptiness to those whose minds are not prepared. Cat's out of the bag now!

To put Sri Ramana Maharshi , a once in a thousand years manifestation of Truth ,in that list of people is misplaced in my humble opinion 🙏🕉️.

I used to be into non-duality teachings & teachers. It IS mental illness. straight path to dissociation. Find your Heart instead, this will initiate you into what is real and not just heady knowledge.

The time has come when the wise are deemed mad and the mad are deemed wise.

You’re not grasping what non-dual teachers are saying. You’re on the periphery and haven’t seen the heart of the words.

When a baby is born it has no self no separation from anything it only has the experience of its senses.Babies have no discernment and what they sense is what they are.They learn to be separate as they grow.When you wake up you go back to the begining and remember the feeling of not having a self youre just experience and thats more real than anything else you could experience and its familiar and intimate in a way you can't explain.Most of genuine teachers are trying to point or trigger you to this but words are just symbols and no matter how convincing they are they are not the thing.All the explanations and criticisms are really a waste of time.

Define your terms. What do you mean by “real”?

Your perspective is extremely wonderfully useful. I'm so glad you're here sharing it!

As Osho once told me, "Put an extra coat of wax on all the green Rolls Royce's, but only one coat on the red." That's always stayed with me.

Hi Kim, thank you for all you've done and continue to do. These teachings and the sharing of your experiences has changed my life. I've gone through all your courses - all the ones with black and white covers, Master Keys to Personal Christhood, just finished the last of the Mystical Initiation books a few days before Easter, not to mention all the books suggested in these courses. And I genuinely feel...I don't know. I was recently given a spiritual message by a very gifted friend to get excited. She said I was excited for everyone else and needed to get excited about my own life. And I want to. Am trying to. Like I appreciate everything but as part of these courses I feel like I've given away everything too. Like I've created space and cleared the way for my divine plan to manifest but in that emptying I don't have anything to feel excited about for myself anymore because I've let go of my desires. I've let go of the things I used to carry me along the path until this point. And I feel...empty and at the mercy of everything. Like it feels like my cup is empty. I have the tools and have still been using them, looking for unresolved psychology, reflecting as it comes, clearing, slowly putting my journey out there through a blog, etc. Despite this, I just feel like I'm in a holding pattern. At this point what would you do - just kind of be until the orange drops in your turban so to speak? It's like my heart feels empty for life even though I love it so much. I hope this makes sense.

Interesting topic. Before I listen to the presentation my guess is that the Western style of nonduality can often be too intellectual resulting in the subconscious still operating as a separate ego. I believe that's why the ancient Eastern traditions have a long period of practice, even though the ultimate message is really simple.

There is only the real, the truth, which can include interpretation, it is the living truth in presence, and nothing we can do, say or imagine is beyond or outside of this living truth, life is not an equation.

Kim has a common misunderstanding of Non-Duality. It is not that there is real vs unreal, or a reality simulator. Not at all. The point is that there exists a belief in separateness, and that is the unreal aspect. Reality is obvious, things are hot and cold, hard or soft. But the idea that there is a separate 'me' that experiences the world along with many other separate 'me' in other bodies is the illusion. This matters because the separateness causes all the suffering because if one is separate, then one must die and thus searches for ways to control the environment. Again, it is not a new philosophy. It is the actual experience of union. And unless one has this experience, one can only philosophize about it. It is a concept, like any other. So, the point of non-duality is not to believe something new, it is to destroy all beliefs that are not true, which in the end leaves none. Because there never was any singular believer. The believer is removed from the equation...and what is left...but everything else...which is what they call emptiness. And this emptiness...experienced...is bliss/love/joy...and it comes from nowhere, is endless, and is free. This is the invitation. Use logic to get rid of beliefs that are not true...do not add more beliefs...

Great, no nonsense questioner, question and answer.🥰

The thing about Nonduality is that one really has very limited reference for what's being indicated as it's spoken about, unless there's been direct, non-conceptual apprehension. This involves a profound shift in locus of seeing--a view that is prior to/beyond the entirety of perceivable "content." Those who "think" they know what's being said, often rebel against it because it sounds threatening as heck to all they they, as a person, hold most dear. Kim is committing the same mistake many other's make; They take their misconstrued understanding about Nonduality and argue against it, which is so clearly what Kim is doing here.

20 minutes in. Wow! this is a fantastic explanation of the duality conundrum. Makes perfect sense. I wait with bated breath to see if Kim believes we CAN actually connect entirely with the Higher Self

But non-dual state is NOT an experience!!! All advaita teachers say that this is not an experience but a clear being.

Beautiful words, beautiful beliefs (e.g. beings with a higher consciousness). That's all. Agree with your criticism of what some say about merging with the universal self, but many people who have realized some degree of wisdom do not say so.

It's the opposite !! For instance, suffering is accepted fully as it is , therefore you get out of the neurosis which springs out of the chronic denial..BUT those ones who brag about being no one and making followers as far as I am concern I would stay away.

Hi Kim, I encourage you to continue your investigations into free-will. It is here that you will find the key to understanding reality (no matter what labels are put upon it). Merely recognising our universe as causal is enough to see the truth. 🙏🏻

you presume a "reality simulator" and everything else after that is a castle built on conjecture. Your questioner is a funny guy - he is straight up saying dont rell me anything i dont want to hear - very amateur and childish. Prove to me this 'reality simulator" exists and then we can discuss further. You have not grokked Advaita at all. The Holotropic universe and all that jazz...... thats not what Advita is about. You are trying to fit something non-objective into an objective model - not possible or even close to accurate - or even useful.

This is a terrible misunderstanding and poor representation of the teachings. It’s not that nothing is real it’s that the unchanging awareness that we all share is more consistent then the changing world of maya. The teachings tell us there is nothing to understand but that we are the unchanging conscious awareness rather than the constantly changing physical world. If we can learn to identify with this higher “seer” than suffering caused by identifying with constant changing is alleviated. If your greatful for all experience weather “good or bad” than your “enlightened” that’s it...

Nonduality does not promote the "no self". Do you even read nondual texts?

Yes I tied myself in knots about this one too. Then I came down and decided no more acid for me (OK, maybe after the 20th time.....don't follow in my footsteps kids!!!). It looks like some people don't need hallucinogenics to trip up over reality, I suggest staying away from concepts like 'absolute' and 'real' otherwise having breakfast can be a bit tricky. Have fun!!!

We identify individual aspects to everything. So a table and a chair as two separate things in relation to everything. But when we are not doing that, there is already everything. Free from the need for individual aspects to be identified. The identification of individual aspects is knowing, we are searching to know everything. Everything is already free from the need to be known. There is just absolute freedom, covered over by that search for knowing.

Around minute 27 is very important: it is not that the world is not real, the problem is that we imagine that something can be outside Brahman/reality. This is the belief in separation and it is the original sin (meaning: error). Very clear, thank you.

This is good. It chimes a little with what Bashar says.

how can anyone experience anything outside of perception?

Thank you. This is a very helpful explanation. Something I've also struggled with for a similar 40 odd years! And believed for some time that nothing at all exists. Its a lonely place!

I wonder if the non dual people are saying nothing is real, but what are the thought processes that follow on from that? Is it non compatible with what you are saying?

Just before your first ascendence / awakening / visit outside of simulator, did you do something to become more neutral towards your world view / evaluation of what's happening inside the simulator? Nevermind about the terms I used, I probably read from different sources. Have a nice day, Janne

Watch Jeff Foster's video on why he quit non duality.

Just feel ! . .Care. Start here, how are we with children ? Do we care? Do we 'really' care ?

Answer - no

No things come from nothing, yet everything that is, comes from all that is..... no thing. Labels were given to something causing seperation... when Adam seperated everything from nothing.

What you speak about sounds like just another religious conception.

some people feel uneasy with the unknown others thrive on the unknown

14:18 I've so much to say on this. Very interesting monologue. "It is possible for us to experience something outside the simulator.". Yes, again I very much agree. A related point; the subconscious mind does not know the difference between perceived-real or imagined. Our physiology is connected to the subconscious. If one were to close one's eyes and replay, using imagination, some emotionally-charged past event, the real body in the present moment may experience a change (e.g. elevated heartbeat, blushing, whatever). An interesting connection between perceived-real and imagined is manifesting. To manifest something in reality, it is highly effective to imagine it already completed, and the subconscious seems to drive the conscious being to bring about the imagined reality until it matches the perceived reality. Why is that, I wonder. There is a reason for this mechanism which perhaps is NOT beyond our comprehension. But this is the problem with radical non-duality; it directs people away from even trying to understand.

Thanks for your perspective .

Something is appearing here, and everything is "made", is that. Call it a Universe call it an etch-sketch quantum fun house. Everything is made out of it; in it, one entity has a semaphore system that runs on its memory, i.e., language. Nothing in the language is separate from the thing flexing its larynx and puffing out its air. Symbols of description are caught by an interpreter, and that is all. It is the voice box, the memory module, etc., Not one thing is more important than another. Just a dog barking al la UG. Woof woof. Everything in the etch-sketch in the process of disappearing forever. The Sapiens temporary entities are designed to be corroded by Oxygen and then, poof, gone like they never were. Is anything not disappearing forever? The analogy is like a mirror or a screen. The mirror is non-finite and non-temporal. The reflections are the so-called everything that appears. Or the movie on the screen. The screen does not burn when the nuke goes off in the movie. Like a jar of the ocean, a temporary entity is scooped up and then eventually poured back. Does not matter how. Does not matter when. Does anything matter? Does anything happen? Woof woof.

Neuro-divergent is a better term. Various religions and groups are grouped on neuro divergence. That's a decent explanation as to how/why people go from one party to another.

Amplified Bible For now [in this time of imperfection] we see in a mirror dimly [a blurred reflection, a riddle, an enigma], but then [when the time of perfection comes we will see reality] face to face. Now I know in part [just in fragments], but then I will know fully, just as I have been fully known [by God].

"When people try to practice religion, eighty percent of them turn into cheats, and about fifteen percent go mad. It’s only the remaining five percent who get some direct knowledge of the Truth and so become blessed. So Beware." - Swami Vivekananda

Everything is real, and not real at the same time ! Put simply an image on a TV screen is undoubtedly real ( A Real Image ) ( as in you believe the movie is real! Likewise, everything you see ! But you could argue that it’s not real ! 😜. I know that takes a bit of explaining, but it would take a lot of writing. 😁

I’m afraid this just sounds like a load of gobbledygook to me 🥴😵‍💫🤪

can you please make a video explaining an interaction with an ascended master?

The question you raise about the no-self concept and whether it might relate to psychological dissociation is quite intriguing. It's important to differentiate between the philosophical or spiritual concept of "no-self" in traditions like Buddhism, which negates a permanent, unchanging self as a path to enlightenment, and psychological dissociation, which is often a defense mechanism against trauma. In spiritual contexts, the idea of no-self is not about disconnection from reality but rather a deep insight into the nature of self as fluid and interconnected with all of existence, rather than separate and static. This realization is aimed at liberating the individual from the suffering caused by clinging to a false sense of ego. From a psychological standpoint, dissociation involves a detachment from reality, often as a response to trauma, which can disrupt a person's sense of identity and reality. While superficially similar, spiritual teachings about no-self are about understanding and embracing a broader, more profound reality, not escaping from it. Your quest for a fresh perspective is valid, and exploring these ideas through different lenses, be they psychological, philosophical, or spiritual, can provide deeper insights and perhaps a more satisfying understanding of the concept of self and no-self.

Is a person that realizes that people are essentially just playing "house" or "cops and robbers" the crazy one?

isn’t everything equally real and unreal?

million percent, they are not. Human brain notices authenticity very fast.

Okey one moment that does not make sense to me… First you say how people with different religions belive in a world view because it is life or death for a healthy psyche. Then a sentence later you portray your world view. „Higher self embodied in human body etc“ Isn’t that the exact same thing ?

He's entitled to his illusion

What is the Mental illness with NON DUALITY ? Interesting ...No i dont think in general they have a MI

Nobody knows anything but my life is real, that's a definition of real.

There's no You that has a perspective

Generally speaking in the current climate everybody qualifies for DSM classification and medication :) I'm quite sure a few of the gurus are "neurodivergent", for example they need less sleep, or are hypermobile and can easily do most yoga, and then unfairly and fraudulently use social hierarchies to pressure their devotees into guilt and compliance. But all I can say from 2 non-dual "devotees" I've met, they were the most dualist individuals I ever met, they would fight me with any joke or critique I threw at them, very weird advaita that the critics are always wrong LOL

I'm not sure principle of non-contradiction applies in places you're talking about, and time is wasted on Wittgenstein language games. Sometimes it's better to understand metaphors than translate them.

Non-duality people are the most healthy people that can be found in this reality. They come from superior reality to this one.

Is there anything that is real? Is this a real question or not? If experienced reality is a reality simulator, is the reality simulator then ittself real? Where are the eight billion people then coming from he speaks of? Are there also not real if they are part of the simulation? If we can create our own reality with our mind, then our mind must be real? Really? Then the experience of our mind is not part of the simulation? He makes a distinction in what we experience. The mind that we experience is real, but what the mind produces is not real? This makes no sense at all. Ofcourse the conclusion of nondualists is then correct, that what we see has no reality, as the mind ittself is not real in essence. There are radical nondualists that are saying this from not knowing, and say we do not know our knowing. But other nondualists say only consiousness is real, but its products not, as the essence is only consiousness or brahman. The distinction he makes of in and outside the simulator is nonsense, as anything existing outside the simulator comes from assuming it from inside the simulator. That is what nonduality says, that there is no outside. So there is not a going to an outside of a simulator, but a seeiing what the essence is of that simulator, namely brahman. It is brahman pretending to be a simulator. He assumes that nonduality is referring to something outside a simulator, but lacks any argumentation why this should be so. He therefore narrows nonduality to the idea of connection, to the in and outside of the simulator. This is very much nonsense, as nonduality means no idea of connection. Also you do not ascend as he means, you become not something, nothing in essence changes, it is just seen. But then he brings it as a form of imagination of the mind, but the whole point is that the mind is always changing, and nonduality is referring to what does not change. Also he makes the mistake that reality must be produced from something else then brahman, but Shankara clearly says that mays is the power of brahman. So seeing reality cannot be a imagination , as it would take effort to sustain it. His view is very much like the vishista advaita of Ramanuja, but he probably does not realize it. Ramanuja was against the complete idea of nondifferention, and he has a point. But what you see with a lot of nonduality teachers these days that they give the human experience more prominence and not follow classical advaita in this. Listen for example to jac o’ keefe, she makes a strong point of it. After listening to this video i conclude he created an idea of what nonduality means in his reality simulator and tries to refute it. His refusal to debate it is a cop out. He studied decades, but still does not have any clue. He really clearly needs a good spiritual teacher.

The sense of reality is different than the reality that was learned by society over all time of the social human. The squirrel and other non reasoning animals live and realize what is reality. If the animals didn't understand reality, they would parish fairly quickly. The humans created their simulations of reality in order to better procreate and survive. Then much later through mastering survival, used the same reasoning to simulate a more pleasant reality. It didn't become dangerous until they moved almost totally away from community that was helping them to survive, into extreme rates of individualism. This is what we are seeing in this great Western civilization divide. One side seeking even greater individual freedoms, while the other side seeking even greater community.

I'd like to know the identities of these ascended ones that you speak of. Are any mentioned in the Hindu religion? Are they noted is the Bhagavad Gita?

I think Ramana Maharshi was a bit more than a "non-duality teacher".

He says the same what Maharishi's teaching. He just uses different, more western way of explanation. Maharishi used more hinduistic way od explanation.

Non-duality meeting, no one turned up

So all he is saying is that there is a reality outside of us that we can perceive and there is a reality of the mind and mysticism is emerging out of your current illusion to grasp at other ways of view reality and by that get the idea that there is an actual outside. I dunnno, maybe it's too simple. Not too dissimilar from Don Ruiz and everyone living in their own dream, except that there is a space that we exist in that indeed real and can be perceived? Basically it's beyond just mere solipsism.

Could we reduce the ads please Kim? So disruptive to the flow.

Can you explain how the following is relevant to a simulator? There is a certain numbers of kilograms a person can deadlift. One person can do max 100kg. The other can do 220kg. What is simulated about this?? The simulator paradigm is typically used for “seeing” things… how about we stop using the amorphous phenomenon of sight, and talk about getting real things done. No matter what you say/think/believe you sir I strongly doubt can deadlift 250kg even if someone was holding a gun to your head. There are other people who can do this with relative ease. This is but one among infinite examples… who wrote the song “Hey Jude”? Are you 13 years old now? If you fall from a 200m height onto concrete your body will destruct and you will die. Etc. What are we to make of these raw facts? How can one dismiss their inherent factuality? Straight answer please.

If you cling to non duality as an idea it’s the same as duality. All these ideas and perspectives are creating a subject and objective, or holding onto something when there is nothing to hold onto. There is not a special reality, it is just experiencing life directly in this moment. That is non duality, but it’s not the idea. Can you feel your foot on the floor? You’re already doing it.

funny guy...🤣😂🤣 keep thinking bro!👊😁

Thank You 😍 We Are PERFECT : WISDOM is Knowing I am No THING - LOVE is knowing I AM Everything - and Between the TWO ( Dual ) MY LIFE MOVES. There is only one THING of VALUE : THE POWER OF LOVE = LIFE = LIGHT - and LOVE is INDIVIDUAL WILL- Power and so I CREATE MY WORLD . LIFE IS GOD - The ABSOLUTE REALITY, SUPREME IMMENSITY. Befire ALL Beginnings ans All ENDINGS: I AM = Human CHROMOSOM Nr. 1 ONE Chromo = COLOR = Chemestry. WHITE ist the ONE COLOR WHICH INCLUDES ALL THE OTHERS . OMEGA.

If they claim to be a "TEACHER" then its really best not to listen to them but that too you'll have no choice in so best of look with that one 😂😂😂

9:40 Yes, another good point. "One non-dual teacher says in a video...when his body dies, he ceases to exist.". I've been more coming to think that there is an entity - the spirit - that takes ownership of the body & mind for its lifetime, and outside of that, has some kind of eternal existence. A bit like drivers and cars; at conception, a driver is assigned to the car (body). If that were not the case, then why are some people naturally more 'awake' even since childhood? Henri Bergson: "Fortunately, some are born with spiritual immune systems that sooner or later give rejection to the illusory worldview grafted upon them from birth through social conditioning...". Is this variance across beings 100% self-contained within the physiology, or is it partially (or wholly) due to some kind of eternal spirit that takes ownership of the physiology for its lifetime? I think it's the latter.

I am that

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 better not to answer u 😂😂

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You don't have to grasp anything just be

As soon as you speak you are in duality. Therefore, there is no way to avoid misunderstanding. And yet, there is no choice but to speak. Its like the Zen buddhist saying about the finger pointing at the moon. You have to point, but if you mistake the finger for what it is pointing at then you will miss the moon. I cant give you the moon, I can only point at it. If you mistake my finger for being the moon then I'm sorry, but it's not my fault. All I can do is point, or speak.

I agreed until you brought in your own claims about one creator which is horseshit, there's no way you can know that or me

G-d created man/woman, everything. We exist because of G-d.This podcast we all are viewing is a creation of G-d. It exists because of G-d. If it were not for G-d, it would not exist. Every thought, feeling, memory, exists because of G-d. G-d did not want to be alone. That is why he created Mankind.

بگو بهشون آخه دیوس ها یعنی چی که میگویید بعد از مرگ شما انرژی میشوید و با منبع انرژیه واحد، یکی میشوید و تبدیل به عشق خالص میشوید؟؟ 🙉🙉🤣🤣🤣🤣 من قصد بی احترامی ندارم و خیلی هاشون دارند قوانین درست رو درس میدهند و کارهای درست و خدمت بزرگی میکنند و جایگاه هاشون خیلی بالاست 🙏🙏💚💚 ولی بعضی هاشون فقط کس شعر میگویند 🚫🚫

وارد علمش نشوند و فقط تکنیک ها و قوانین رو یاد بدهند و کار عملی انجام بدهند و تئوریه مربوط به عملکردها و تمرینها ..