DO NOT Sum Your Stereo Rig to Mono! (do this instead)
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Today, I am going to show you why you DON'T want to sum your stereo guitar signal to mono. I'll walk you through exactly what it means to sum your stereo signal, and ways you can get a mono signal out of your stereo rigs, without wrecking your tone!
What differences did you hear in the playing examples? Let us know in the comments below!
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@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
*High Quality Audio Alert! Headphones Recommended!* Skip to 08:25 for the sound comparisons! Today, I am going to show you why you DON'T want to sum your stereo guitar signal to mono. I'll walk you through exactly what it means to sum your stereo signal, and ways you can get a mono signal out of your stereo rigs, without wrecking your tone! Let us know what you think in the comments!
@itechstrum 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I don't wanna bring along two Powercab 112 Plus, I'm plugging left on the first input and right on the second input of the PC112+, I'm hearing both left and right on a mono fashion, or maybe I'm under a placebo effect? lol. Am I doing the right thing?
@patrickrobinson1935 3 жыл бұрын
shots fired @jhs
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickrobinson1935 no shots fired, would apply to any sum box, JHS or otherwise.
@patrickrobinson1935 3 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc yes I have been considering running rig in stereo only to discover most stereo pedals aren't TRUE stereo anyway unless they have dual effects engines
@GearSounds 3 жыл бұрын
You taught me a great lesson today. NEVER USE ANOTHER JHS PRODUCT. LOL no but really, this was an amazing breakdown. The mono sounded better than the summed signal.
@mrcrawford87 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing information!!! I am a first time pedalboard user setting my first pedalboard after running Rack Mount multi-effects processor units for over 30 years and I am now hooked on pedals!! My wife is rolling her eyes watching me react to the sound demonstration in this video... I LOVE IT!! THANK YOU!!!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thank for watching Mark!
@victorcaio3965 3 жыл бұрын
Finally! I was waiting for this topic! Thanks Rig Doctor! ;)
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!
@carminelombardi9575 8 ай бұрын
Your the one I can trust to give the highest level of knowledge for anything that's pedal or pedalboard related. I was about to buy the "Walrus Audio Canvas Mono Line Isolator D.I.", that has the summing to mono feature, but after hearing and seeing this video explanation, I'm going for the Canvas stereo model instead. It's so appreciated, thank you.
@jonathancarmichael1578 6 ай бұрын
Your videos are always helpful. Thanks for the knowledge. I was planning to set up a summing switch on my w/d/w pedalboard for when mono is my only option. Thanks to this video, I've saved myself a lot of trial and error.
@NickIverson Ай бұрын
Can’t believe I’m just finding this video…. Could have saved me so much trial and error. Underrated - awesome comparison. Thanks!
@JensLarsen 3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting, and amazingly clear examples! Learned a lot, Thank you!
@JazzRockswithAdam 3 жыл бұрын
Jens, Mason tends to have a knack for that. 😉
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adam!
@timharrington4470 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your clear explanations on what's going on in the signal chain, it really helps people who don't know that much (like me) to work towards getting the sound that I want so thank you! I learn something every time I watch one of your videos
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@ande047 2 жыл бұрын
Super helpful! So glad I watched this before pulling the trigger on a summing box.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@chimichurrimojo3096 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, I've been trying to figure this out for a while! Thanks!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@cheeher3212 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Always learning something new from you!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help! Thank you for watching!
@jmd12331 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Doc, Your vids and replies are really helpful and appreciated.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@mmarrington 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very useful video. Helped me deal with issues getting outputs from a range of stereo devices into my mainly single channel mixer.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@countstoneula 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve almost always ran a mono live rig until getting the HX Stomp last year. Now I’m running stereo “amps” almost all the time and have considered a summing box for times when I can’t have two inputs at the sound board. The HX Stomp outputs in either Mono or Stereo depending on what is plugged in the outputs when you power it up. So I’ve just done this power up trick a couple times to run it in mono but kind of felt I was missing out and was planning to get a summing box in the near future. So the timing on this video was excellent, and very informative. It’s nice to know I don’t need another pedal for once. 🤣
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful!
@musicproductionfilm2339 Жыл бұрын
I liked and subscribed! This was very informative, and the sound quality was as good as the content. Great job with the sound clips and the discussion around the issue. I have some stereo-capable pedals and some mono pedals, so this hit home; it's like, what's the BEST way to run these into an amp -- or two amps (or two channels on an audio interface or mixer, in a live sound scenario).
@armymankr 2 ай бұрын
This makes total sense! Also I always noticed that my dry/wet mix ratio seemed to change when stereo summing with less effect heard in the mix. Tried just using the L output and that sounds much clearer while keeping the effect mix as intended! Thanks.
@GartenhausLP 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking into mono summing the last few days because I decided not to take the full rig to most places when we can go out again. When I did this in the past I pulled every „right“ in and out on all of my stereo pedals to go mono and plugged them back in when back home. I need to check if the last pedal in my chain can pan but anyway guess I‘ll just be using the Left/mono out from now on. Thank you for this great video!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@mitskoski 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! Doctor, you are right! Summing affects the tone quality! I 've been playing left out mostly, but sometimes I could run stereo and it was just like your description, especially the mix!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
@clerawk 2 ай бұрын
You always have great advice that makes sense! Thanks!!
@got2rock4 Жыл бұрын
I mostly used 2 amps for stereo But I have a Fender Princeton chorus which happens to have a true stereo FX loop which also allows for drive pedals to be in fronts and modulation and delay through loop.Nice Video!!
@zachwalker7148 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for using your platform to make this PSA. Feel like anyone with ears and a brain should be able to hear the difference on their own.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed!
@MojoP Жыл бұрын
Awesome content - very concise, very representative. I've been working through a front/loop switching setup that utilizes 2 amps, 2 cabs (live), or into 2 CaptorX for desk recording. I use simple FX up front (VP, wah, deja-vibe, boost), then this gets fed into a GCX8 with isolated loops for a variety of effects (all front end) with out being split (Lehle S-go-S). Where I'm experiencing some oddities is with the stereo TimeFactor & Reverb in the loops of both amps. Sounds great live, not so much when punched through the CaptorX's into the DAW. I find separating the channels into 2 mono per amp (L and R) sounds almost better than going with the I/O's default setting of Stereo. Frustrating. But this video may be the nugget I need to experiment with to get to where I need my stereo FX to land. Thank you!!
@thiagodiascosta3582 3 жыл бұрын
The idea of hard panning a stereo signal path to only one side to convert it to mono is great! Never thought of it. Also, excelent info on this video, fhanks.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
For sure, it's definitely the move! Even not doing the hard pan for pedals that don't have that option still is often better sounding that summing.
@Christbearer57 3 жыл бұрын
What a great exposition of this somewhat complicated subject. Thank you! I still have questions about how stereo pedals can be accommodated on a board.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@ronkopald 2 жыл бұрын
After watching this I'm going to have to somehow wire my pedalboard either for mono or stereo use when I record. I usually just go direct in and use an amp sim or external unit. Playing in bands for over twenty years, I've always always run a mono board for band gigs. Stereo sounds great if you can get away with it but usually unless there's a sound guy for the PA it's too much work. There are still lots of small clubs that don't even have PAs for use. Informative video, thanks.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you dug the video Ron!
@jesserobinson20 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I found this video. I've been experimenting with the JHS Summing Amp pedal on my bass rig and it just didn't sound right. I couldn't figure it out. What you described is what I have been hearing. And I can still return the JHS pedal so thank you for the info.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
For some things it might be helpful, and it doesn't have anything to do with his product, just summing externally will have this issue generally.
@Gele_Rodrigo Жыл бұрын
good video! I have a question, if you are going to play live and you go to a table, I understand that it is better to put the effects in stereo on two channels, right?
@isaacramsey6145 3 жыл бұрын
Some of you won’t believe it but this video combined with a little more research sold me on a JHS summing amp as a practical, second best option for my stereo rig
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
If you like the sound, go for it
@isaacramsey6145 3 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc it works well enough as a less than perfect option for playing things that will eventually be put in stereo. I keep the box on a practice amp, not the pedal board. Still very much appreciated the knowledge you shared in this video!
@staceycarras3815 3 жыл бұрын
Top Notch, and very common sense, thanks for posting
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@hectorzavala1524 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I will compare the sounds with my solution. This is what i was doing to get mono sounds: 1. Disconect the R output of the chorus. 2. In the eventide h9, general settings, select pre/post routing (pre is left) 3. The switcher musicomlab EFX LE, in utilities theres is an option to select loop 5 & 6 in mono or stereo return and loop 6 mono send. I change all to mono.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Hector, 1) that would work, but we're presuming here, like most people that are running a stereo rig, that they don't want to disconnect their pedals each time they run mono versus stereo - this will help solve the polarity/phase issue, but still not resolve the overall issue of the mono sum. 2) If you're still connected with stereo in and out on the H9 the pre/post won't help you and will just mess up the signal path and turn your input B/output B into an effects loop. 3) Yes, but this is still the same issue of a mono summing box, you're doing the sum with outboard gear not native to the stereo pedal - same problem as shown in the video - it's still a mix bus summing amp.
@TheAtheistworld Жыл бұрын
Pro as always. Thnxx bro❤
@randysosa7616 3 жыл бұрын
I run my Boss DD-20 in parallel by "jumping" output 1 into input 2. It really opens up the delay and all I need is an extra patch cable since I don't have access to the software. Great info, love the video.
@obhmusic 3 жыл бұрын
not parralel..
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@stevereese6488 11 ай бұрын
I’m custom building an EVH pedal switch with 2 stereo on the left and 4 mono on the right. 2 separate inputs, one dry channel input output and one stereo input output for the wet side. Basically 2 boxes in one enclosure. For the wet side or stereo side I will have TSR jacks for send and return with 4pdt switch and for dry side I will use TS jacks with 3pdt switches. LED’s, all bypass when not activated. Also one master switch on dry input and one master switch on stereo input. I can forgo the master input switches. The stereo side will be labeled as Cathedral (for the boss sde3000 EVH delay) and DDLS for the Eventide micro pitch delay. The output on stereo side will go to an interface box to connect the pedal snake. I think I can make an led work on the 4pdt switch. The output jacks mono will have a resistor between the lugs but I’m not sure if I can do that for the stereo output jacks. Might have to run 2 resistors??? Does this sound right?
@danielhurtuk6203 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that topic! 👍
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
@ac8704 9 ай бұрын
Great explanation and example.
@robertemacovei 3 жыл бұрын
This is gold 🙌🏻🎸
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you dig it!
@chrisstrutt4964 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I've been thinking about summing (Timeline > Flint then into HX Stomp Stereo or single amp depending on where I'm playing) but this has shed light on a few of my questions.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found it helpful!
@redcomn 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't flint has stereo input tho.
@vladimirpavlovic9488 3 жыл бұрын
It just happens that I am using my rig the way you prescribed. But I didn't think too much about, it was just logical to me and sounded right. I haven't really even considered buying a summing device, and I was always a little bit unsure why anyone wants it or uses it. Now I get it. It is hard for people that have unprogramable stereo pedals to do it other way. My only issue was with my stereo delays so I created a copy of all of my presets without the 'ping pong' atribute, and than it all sounds right, it feels like the pedal (Echolution 2 deluxe by Pigtronix) sends the same signal trough both outputs when it has ping pong effect disabled. Anyway, the difference you showed is very audible (although even trough sum box it sounds very decent) and I am intrigued. And the best news is-the solution is easy and free. This is not just another video ad that tells you that you need to buy a very special little magical device that will actually do the trick ...no, just experiment and get rid off sum device if you don't really need it.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@fernandocalsoni7672 Жыл бұрын
Hey Mason, thanks to your continuous effort on teach people to know better their rigs (including me). I've been thinking to split my signal in 2 mono after the preamp (JCM800 style amp), one to go with no effects and the other to use my digital effects on killdry. Then summing back. Reason? I want to avoid analog-digital converting at my dry signal. What are your thoughts on this summing? Devices to indicate? Thanks again.
@bobbimurdoch5948 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Has been on my mind recently if L/mono out is best for my mono setup
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
You bet!
@steve_one 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for this insight. Say I'm using two Boss IR-200s with 2xL & 2xR outputs. Could I sum the 2xL together and 2xR to go into my mixer? I think perhaps there may not be the issues you suggest in this video but would like your advice. Thanks.
@worshipguitarcovers6916 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Video! this is actually my problem. I have Timeline and Bigsky at the end of my chain and because of home recording I was able to wire it in stereo then plug into audio interface in stereo. When going on live sessions I use only 1 amp and I have to remove all the stereo connection from Timeline to Bigsky because if I don't it will only give me half sound to the amp. Its a hassle pulling out pedals and patches.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@tr_murf4399 3 жыл бұрын
This is great. Think I might have inspired this one after asking about a summing mod on the DIY buffer video, to which Mason was kind enough to respond then-and in even more detail now. Ive been putting the final touches on a fully hand-wired board the last six months and I began feeling really guilty about not fully utilizing my big-box Strymons in stereo. They do sound amazing, but dragging two amps to the kinds of places I generally get to play isn’t practical. No matter how great the board is, it’s going to be in mono 98% of the time. Will probably program mono and stereo presets on my midi switcher one day, but I think this board will still be mono when (if?) it has an opportunity to debut.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
We've had a lot of requests for this over the years. Wanted to show some examples and some easy work-arounds. There can be a place for a mono sum, I just don't prefer it, sonically, to doing it the way I demo'd in the video. There may be some cases where you don't have the option to go into the software to adjust and maybe the mono sum might sound better than Left output only, but it's not been my experience.
@lukehouglum4731 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! I wish you'd also demoed the summing of a wet-dry rig. That's where I see the value of summing boxes like the JHS.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think you'll hear much benefit, same as the stereo rig to the mono rig summed.
@Kennethswoodcarvings 9 ай бұрын
I do like your setup using the Active Summing Network. Within this system, I like the Mono (Left) Output because of the sound and the fact you are using only one amp. My question is would the amp still need the effects Loop?
@anastasiaclarke5699 3 жыл бұрын
this video rocks, thank you!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@RobertMurphy-wm3ge 3 жыл бұрын
Dude those long helping hands in the back is a stellar idea! I have shitloads of those air directors
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed!
@dividedbytimestudios Жыл бұрын
What about my acoustic board, I run an HX Stomp, I was wanting to get a Walrus Canvas, the mono Canvas has a Sum button that allows you to run stereo in and mono out, it’s cheaper than the stereo canvas pedal, is it worth it?
@andreaszanker8318 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mason, I have a old Lexicon MPX 1 that I want use mono with a Lehle Parallel Sw II in the FX Loop of my Mesa Stiletto. The MPX manual recommends switching the Input internal to mono L and use a Y- Cable to sum the L+R Output to Mono '' for best sonic'' performance. Now I'm not sure how to connect the thing. Do we have the same case here that you are describing. Do I loose something if I just connect Amp-Send to Left IN and Amp- Return to Left out?
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
You're going to have some compromise, you're basically doing what the summing box is doing but with a cable, or a version of a sum with a Y-cable.
@gary9564 5 ай бұрын
I have a whole pedal board going into a line6 hx one (mono left) then out in stereo into 2 seperate amps. No humming, no phase switching.
@herr101 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! What about if I run a 2x12 box with the speakers wired stereo in it? (with 2 inputs of course) Could the phase cancelling happen inside the box? Can the 2 speaker "weakens" each other? Or could this effect be negligible?
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Your cabinet won't change anything.
@Beyondthestring 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video I am a percussive guitarist and I have a live performance next mounth, my guitar has two different pickups, one for the srtrings and other one for the percussion and this pickups have seperate output jacks. I use Fender ABY pedal to connect both jacks into one single amp, is it gonna affect two much? should I borrow another amp to have two amps?
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Those are two different source that likely hit a mixer...or should...it's a little different than this.
@isaacward6998 Жыл бұрын
Is this just the case if you’re running into one amp with stereo effects into it? I ask because I’m running the UA dream and Ruby in stereo then summing after with my Alexander space force via trs cable. So my signal is dry effects> mono into the fever pitch by Alexander> left and right out of the fever pitch to the dream and Ruby> the dream and Ruby go into the starlight left and right> left and right out goes to the Alexander space force via y trs cable> the space force sums left and right so I can run it just out of the left output. I’m not sure what the mix is for left and right summing on the space force. Any suggestions that would optimize this? Sometimes I’m able to run stereo and most times I’m not, but I enjoy the Ruby and dream together vs one of them on there own. I did this to keep from having to switch back and forth from mono to stereo.
@drewmcdowell1622 3 жыл бұрын
Summing boxes are great when used for solo boost and trails split with slap back on AB box. Helps with the trio lead drop off issue when returning back to rhythm and vice versa. The "trio trick" if you will.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't heard this nor do I understand how you're suggesting this be ordered in the signal path.
@alexkleiner4131 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and a real eye opener for me. Is there a way to pan the output of the H9 to 100% left without having a noticeable effect engaged? For example, if I had 2 stereo pedals engaged before the H9, could I set up a preset on the H9 so that it pans the output 100% left without adding any reverb/delay/etc? Would wet-dry routing and something like a flat EQ preset (Wet L, Dry R) work?
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can do it to the H9 in the app software for the H9 only, it won't work for other stereo pedals before or after it.
@rjwije4874 4 ай бұрын
Great video...Thank you
@austineatmon 3 жыл бұрын
What would you recommend in the case where I currently use a Timeline and BigSky as my only stereo pedals and I plan to use the Goodwood Audio Interfacer as my junction box? I saw where the manual gives 2 different summing options: Stereo Sum - This is the default mode The TX Interfacer ships with. In this mode use stereo effects as normal. When summed, the left and right inputs are merged and the exact same signal is sent to the left and right outputs. Split sum - Still use stereo effects as normal. When summed, the right input is ignored and the left input is split to both left and right outputs. Would split sum be the same as essentially just using my left outputs? Or would I better off to unplug all stereo cables and only use the left output of the interfacer? (I'm assuming just using the left output of the interfacer would be akin to running just the left out of my BigSky)
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure of there definition but technically there should be no "SUM" just one output used. I would just leave it as a stereo interface and plug into only one output if that's an option, there shouldn't be any summing occurring in this case.
@Davidvs91 2 жыл бұрын
Hey great video! What about the radial passive DI boxes. They have a sum button that sums 2 1/4 input signals in to a balance XLR output. Would I have the same issue with these?
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
You cannot sum pedals with external hardware...period. It's not the same as doing at the pedal internally.
@mayaratseyguitar 3 жыл бұрын
I run stereo sometimes with two amps or two modelers. My HX Stomp for stereo delays and a Walrus Audio stereo programable reverb after that. I do use the Goodwood Audio interfacer for phase/ground correction when needed. But I found it actually easiest to just have a whole set of new presets that are mono. No summing or anything. Then I don’t even worry.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
That's the best move, as I say in the video :)
@mikael.cherin 3 жыл бұрын
This is interesting, because of the Stomp itself. Question: hook up a stereo pedal (lets say a SA Ventris or Nemesis) to the stomp using its stereo send and returns. No blocks added in the signal chain after the S/R block. All is fine and wide and cosy. What to do if one would record all this in mono? Do we pull the R plug from the SA pedal? Or do we have to change the S/R block also in the stomp? Hm... i guess This is a question that L6 folks should be able to answer. The manual doesnt touch on the subject though.
@nickkellie 2 жыл бұрын
You just saved me money. Thank you!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@MrJackrockerman Жыл бұрын
Hye Mason.. School me about insert output .. how can i use with my line 6 m5.. i want my m5 run in stereo efx ( delays / reverb ) .. Hows the chain for setting up? Thanks 🙏
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Don't understand the question....
@97guitarzan 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video...great information. I never setup a stereo rig for live playing...
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
certainly can make things diffiult.
@mrkomeng2213 Жыл бұрын
Hello sir, I have a multieffect guitar that has a left right output.. I have a powered speaker that has two inputs.. if I connect the Left output multieffect to the first input on the speaker and the Right ouput multieffect to the second input on the speaker, is there sound the result is stereo??
@78tag 3 ай бұрын
That was a great question. I'd really like to know how he filters the questions that he responds to. Seems to be highly selective.
@josephirvan707 3 жыл бұрын
i have a hx stomp, and i want to plug my left output to PA and right output to fx return of an amp. What should i use for presets ? get a stereo effects or just a mono effects for the preset? thankyou
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
You can arrange the software internally to have this be a split mono output I believe.
@everonlyallforthee 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Vertex! Thanks for the vid. Question: my rig is currently running stereo delay into stereo reverb, out to two amps, out to FOH console with a dedicated channel for each amp. However, the mains are mono. So the summing is happening at the console. The nice wide stereo mix in my IEMs is great, but do you think it's problematic for what the crowd hears out of the mains? If so, what would be a better approach? Thanks for your time!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think there’s any reason to adjust your rig if the mixer is doing it, sort of out of your control at that point, you could of course experiment to see if just a straight mono mix into the input made any real sonic difference, but I highly doubt it, plus if you used it in any other application where you could go through stereo I don’t know that it would be worth disrupting your Pedalboard
@safuan3573 3 жыл бұрын
Great info.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@maxwellclark2345 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't find anyone who asked this already in the comments: is using stereo breakout cables to connect multiple 2 output, 1 input pedals worth it? (Strymon Flint into Strymon Deco.) Or does this have the same effect as a sum box? Am I better off sticking with the Left output of the Flint into the Deco? (I could test this myself, but I haven't picked up the stereo breakout/splitter cables yet.) Thanks for your help and for this informative video!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
The stereo input jack is the same as any stereo pedal with stereo inputs it's just using a single TRS jack instead of two TS jacks. Doesn't change anything about the recommendations here.
@jonnelson9313 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry if you addressed this already (I looked over the comments pretty well). I have a stomp, timeline, and big sky all wired in stereo. If I leave left and right cables into all the inputs but only go into one amp out of the Left, will it include my full signal or will the bigsky only send out half? I play in stereo and mono equally on this rig so I’d love to not have to take out the cables.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Jon, you'll get the left only...no really half the signal, just what's processed to be on the left side. Ideally you'd create separate presets for mono that give you the best version of the L and R effects. As you can see the Summing, even if you prefer it in these examples, is a compromise just as much as going mono out of a stereo wired rig - I think even better. The devices aren't designed to be summed with external hardware like the summing boxes do.
@washburn27 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mason, i am planning to use the One control mosquite blender, it has mix control per channel and also a phase switch, its also active? Do you think that will prevent these issues?
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if the OC Mosquito is active or not, I would assume it is. It's not going to solve the summing issue however.
@denisrojriv4906 Жыл бұрын
If someone serves my experience with a line 6 helix. I have a preset with a stereo amp setup using a feature called ''split''. What I do is I split the signal from amp A in parallel and add another amp B and they are back in the signal flow. So, A and B are panned to R and L respectively. There are delay blocks and stereo reverbs in each amp. I have 2 options. When I want to go out in stereo I use the 2 XLR outputs towards the mix and I have all the beauty of STEREO. But when it is not possible and I need to go out in mono I do the following. I have 2 canons connected to the Helix's XLR outputs but I only send the left/mono side to the mix input. If I disconnect the cable on the right side it feels like the sound gets smaller. If I plug it back in it returns a more open sound. I assume this is summing in stereo? Could you explain to me what is happening there?
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
In integrated devices like this that have all your pedal under one roof like the HX and Helix you can get away with it since they have their own programming and mixing internally. Using a series of external pedals however, can't do this or if you feed stereo pedals into your Helix, you'll have the same issue as described in this video. If you stay native in the Helix you can do this more easily regarding the summing.
@bjstickney 3 жыл бұрын
I used Goodwood audio output and that has 2 sum options, left only or combine L and R, plus phase and ground loop. Worked great for me when I used it
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's just one sum option and the other one is the left only as I suggest. The polarity switch won't be that valuable in mono, in particular if one of your pedals upstream inverts, but I don't think it's an active summing network is it? I don't think you can control the mix, it's just 50/50 L to R. Equally the ground lift isn't useful on the summed output or the mono (what they're calling split summed, but it's just mono) as you're only running a signal amp presumably? If you compare the summed stereo to the hard panned left mono as we did here - I think you'll hear the difference just like you did in the clips we compared here in real time.
@bjstickney 3 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc yes the polarity and ground lift are just for stereo. It’s just nice to have the left only option as opposed to just 50 50 split. Great informative video. I love playing in stereo but only do it at home now haha. Carrying 2 amps isn’t fun lol
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
@@bjstickney I hear ya, thanks for watching!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
@@bjstickney I hear ya!
@jacobpittman1996 3 жыл бұрын
Would a device like Morley’s ABY Mix provide a solution to this? Buffered with dual volume control.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
No, this is just a splitter
@bilalq1 3 жыл бұрын
So how does this work if you create a junction box at the end of your board with option for mono plus stereo. I.e. if you use mono in your junction box is it just summing the stereo signal ?
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
That's what this video was demonstrating. That is summing stereo to mono - the exact issue this video is addressing.
@thekunjummens615 3 жыл бұрын
I’m running wet effects in stereo of the fx loop of the stomp and I let that sum to mono, does it make a difference if I hard pan like in the video? I end up sending mono signal to FOH and mono to a stage monitor most of the time, but I’m hoping to record in stereo more often
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
If you're running one amp, no reason to sum the stereo image to mono.
@mattlynn6157 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. On my new board I’m using the line 6 hx stomp to run effects after a couple dry pedals like the sss. Going to save DSP and blocks by doing cabs through the cabzeus. Was going to go out of the HX into my wet pedal then into the Zeus. And my dry side just from HX to Zeus. Was thinking since the. Zeus had two cabs I would one wet and one dry but it has stereo in and out for the wet. How would you recommend the signal path in and out? It’s outs are stereo balanced. If I do wet dry I couldn’t just use the left. If I use the fx loop of the HX for the wet it sums it’s outputs before going into the Zeus.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
I would use the HX Stomp with three outputs, Send (dry), Output 1 (wet left), Output 2 (wet right). I would adjust your blocks in the HX so you can get your dry effects going out of the FX send, and the wet effects in stereo out of output 1 and 2. Output 1 and 2 will feed your Cab Zeus in stereo L and R and go into two channels of your mixer. The Send out of the HX will be the dry effects with a cab/amp treatment on it going to your third channel in your mixer. You now have three channels on your mixer, dry, wet left, wet right.
@mattlynn6157 2 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc I like that. One reply/question: I want to setup the pedalboard so it's universal. IF I go to a gig and they simply will only allow one input into the mixer... would you have a patch bay on the board that has 4 outputs? One for the 3 wet,dry,wet that you describe and a 4th that mono's it all? Or just combines the left stereo and the mono/dry signal?
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattlynn6157 just create a new set of blocks with all pedals/effects/amp and cab going out of the send (dry) output
@nobesmusic 3 жыл бұрын
This video was a huge eye opener for me Mason. Thank you! Gonna try and compare to see how bad it is in my rig 😅. I don’t have a pedal like the H9 that can intrinsically pan like you did, but I was just curious as to how panning everything left is different than summing to mono. It sounded better and totally different, but it seemed like the signal was summed within the H9 via panning everything left. I may not be aware enough to really know what’s going on, but I’d figured I ask haha Also, in stereo, my chorus pedal leaves the L dry and the R vibrato. So together it’s the lush chorus sound, but if I only wen L it would sound dry and if I only went R it would just be vibrato. In this case would the only option be unplugging the cables?
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
If you can't pan it internally to hard left for the mono stuff, yes, unplugging it or putting a toggle to short the R output jack would be the only way.
@mikaelhauk 2 жыл бұрын
Hey. How would the mono sum work with separate dry/wet signals? I'm a bass player, realized that having multiple active pedals each with their blend knob at 12 o Clock is not that great. I was thinking of running my envelope, fuzz and drive pedals on a separate wet signal and then summing them back to mono before my Chorus pedal (which is mono). Is that doable, or is there a better way to do this?
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
If they're both mono signals you can blend them...try it.
@pascal006 3 жыл бұрын
Little off subject question! When you use a stereo effect pedal to split the signal (as opposed to say an active ABY switch) to two amps like you seem to have done in this video, is there a significative signal loss? Or the only difference between active aby switchers and stereo effects pedal when it comes to signal splitting is the ability to flip the phase and ground option? Should the stereo effect pedal in this application be buffered? Thanks!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
If you're using the last stereo pedal to split to a stereo set up it should be the same on both the L and R presuming they're the same amps, set the same. Not all stereo devices invert so you may not necessarily have an issue. If you use two different amps for these stereo image the amps might have inverted polarity so that could also be a problem, but you can resolve this easily with getting an inverted speaker cable and using it on one. The only issue you can't sold is the isolation, most stereo pedals don't have any galvanic isolation like this and will require some sort of iso transformer if you do have hum.
@richardoloot1295 2 жыл бұрын
OK i want to take a stereo output (2 x 1/4 mono jacks L and right channels) into a mono active sub woofer (ony one) from my bose 802 controler/crossover (which has a cut frequency button for the sub) would this rule still apply? im wondering as the subtle atrtributes of the lower frequencys are 'less' valid in terms of stereo imaging. I play electronic dance music with a lot of 'donk' the imaging from mids and highs. So do i sum or still go with perhaps just the left or right channel? many thanks - id never thought in depth about this but you are correct in your analasis! Whod have thought stereo to mono would be this indepth!!!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Yes...summing externally will be an issue, always. You'd need to do it inside each pedal.
@richardoloot1295 2 жыл бұрын
this is my master mix out to pa system
@Josev-TV 3 жыл бұрын
I have pedals that are stereo and some only have 1 input and 1 output (mono) how should I combine the two to get a stereo at the end of the chain?
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Stereo effects, in particular, delay and reverb, should be at the end of the chain if you plan to use them in stereo. Your mono effects would lead into the stereo effects.
@daanfischer9816 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question, I have stereo pedals and a switcher. What do i need to do to still have the stereo setup, because the switcher only has 1 output and only 1 send return inputs
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Ideally you need a stereo switcher.
@mygarcia1413 Жыл бұрын
how to run my Tc ditto looper at the end , if i have a stereo path (strymons and h9 in front of the looper). I have 2 amps
@deicidalmaniac Жыл бұрын
You can't run it at the end, you will have to run it before your signal splits or pick left/right.
@richarddlewis5422 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Question: how would you solve the problem of installing a piezo bridge pickup with a stereo output in an electric guitar and still be able to get a blend between the piezo and the neck humbucker WITHOUT using two amplifiers? I need a mono sound going to my one acoustic amp (Boss VE 8 singer). Based on your video lesson, should my tech guy only use only the "left" output wire from the piezo bridge being installed? Thanks in advance. RDL
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Many people will use either 1) a DI and blend the Humbucker at the board or 2) will sum them to a mono with a mixer and you can control the balance of the Piezo vs. the Humbucker.
@richarddlewis5422 2 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc Thanks for the quick reply. New questions: 1) Can't I blend the amount of front humbucker in the mixed signal using the volume switch and tone control on the guitar? 2) Using a DI - will the output cable from the DI be delivering a combined mono signal to my amp? 3) Will the final mono output sound quality be compromised by the DI (other than removing the stereo)? 4) What should I spend on a DI? Thank you 4x's. RDL
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
@@richarddlewis5422 1) depends on how your guitar is wired with the Piezo if the volume pot is blending the two pickups in parallel, you can get some mixing of the two, I don't know your guitar so I can't say. One way that guys have done it in the past is with something like a Rolls Mini Mixer MX28 or Radial Mix Blender, and they feed one side of the cable to Input 1 (Humbucker) and the other side to Input 2 (Piezo) and then you can control the mix of each pickup and the level hitting the pedalboard. 2) The DI output would be the straight Piezo pickup split off the guitar into it's own channel in the mixer, you could mix this acoustically in parallel with the Humubucker pickup that feeds the pedalboard. In this instance the Piezo side wouldn't see the pedalboard. 3) Depends on how you do it, the solutions I wrote about should all be perfectly fine, it's more of a matter of whether you want both pickups to go through the pedalboard or not. If yes, get the mixer (Mix Blender or similar), if no, get a DI box. 4) Radial has tons of options for this that are all high quality. I'm not sure what the hip one is now, but everyone used to use the PZ-DI and I think now they have another one as well as do companies like Lehle. They range from $150-$250 or so.
@erikstreight2967 2 жыл бұрын
Dude THANK YOU! What really frustrates me is that the manufacturers don't give you a mini toggle to internally disconnect the stereo output jack. I use a patch bay for my stereo (and dry) outputs and my cramped pedal board is not set up for physically connecting/disconnecting cables directly from the pedals. Do you think it would be simple enough to have someone modify my pedals with mini toggles? Is that something you would do?
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know of many manufacturers that do this with the toggles. Some pedals can be done easily others are more complicated regarding the stereo/mono toggle switch. A lot of the digital and DSP stuff is much more difficult.
@robertgoodman1454 Жыл бұрын
Hey Mason, thanks so much for this man. You've been a huge help in my pedalboard build. I have a stereo pedalboard but my church has a mono PA. Should I just leave the L & R Ins & Outs plugged in and just use the Left out or is it best to unplug all of the right in/outs. (speciaifcally for specular tempus / timeline / bigsky). Thank you!
@robertgoodman1454 Жыл бұрын
Just got a response fro Strymon in regards to this. He said if both stereo ins/outs are being used it splits the signal by 50/50 meaning the left out would have 50% less volume but that summing after the timeline and BigSky should not have a noticeable effect, possible even a more full sound. Specular tempus I’m not sure yet.
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
I would just go out of the L output on the last stereo pedal. You don't need to unplug everything if it's difficult to manage.
@robertgoodman1454 Жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc thank you, I greatly appreciate your reply
@martdcvlog2988 2 жыл бұрын
i just have a question. is it possible to have a stereo output on a mono amplifier? like my strymon bluesky stereo out but i will plug it in into a mono speaker. using this kind of cable conversions
@martdcvlog2988 2 жыл бұрын
2PL male Jacks (stereo out from bluesky) to 1PL male Jack (mono in to amplifier)
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Sure, but you'll just have the mono only (or one side of the stereo). Typically L is dedicated mono.
@brianspaid8986 3 жыл бұрын
It'd be a huge help when you're doing these types of videos to have a section at the end where you go between the different setups with no breaks between so we can directly compare them to each other. Nice video!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Are the wav. files not in the description?
@brianspaid8986 3 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc I'm not seeing them. Where are they linked? Thanks!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianspaid8986 I'll double check it, I think they were posted on there so you could listen on soundcloud yourself.
@brianspaid8986 3 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc Ah, got it. Thanks. Appreciate it!
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianspaid8986 Sure thing!
@MusiCaninesTheMusicalDogs 2 жыл бұрын
Lemme ask your something kinda related to your video. Imagine I have a stereo chorus pedal. Will it sound the same if I use: 1. Overdrive -> chorus -> 2 amps 2. Chorus -> two overdrives, one for each channel -> 2 amps. I never tried the second scenario, but I'm wondering if it would sound like double recorded guitars. I know the first set up doesn't. Actually, I wonder if it would actually sound like that without the chorus effect, and only double separated channels. In other words, I'm wondering if I should buy a second overdrive pedal and set my overdrive pedals after the channel split provided by a stereo effect pedal. I'm mainly thinking about getting better distorted rhythm guitar sounds. I don't like how they sound with setup 1 when I turn chorus on to get stereo sound. Thank you!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
I guess if you're trying to do something different but typically chorus before distortion isn't a sound people go for.
@MusiCaninesTheMusicalDogs 2 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc Thank you very much! 😁
@spiralwall 2 жыл бұрын
What about if you have the pedals in a G3, I have 3 stereo pedals I use, what would be the best thing to do?
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Al thanks for watching the video! What do you mean, could you elaborate more please?
@joshfirlotte 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry I’m so late to reply. Thanks very much for the video! Super informative!! Wish the bigsky had hard panning capabilities
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
There are things you can do to manipulate this, but also just using the left only output will still get you better results and the SUM IMO.
@joshfirlotte 3 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc yeah I would like to do that. Do you know in the pbc6x, I have the bigsky in a stereo loop. If I tell that loop that it should be mono instead of stereo and just unplug the left side of the insert cable, would that technically work?
@joshfirlotte 3 жыл бұрын
I guess tell both the send and return to be mono and unplug the left in and left out of each insert cable
@MrDrCol Жыл бұрын
Hey there: Very informative. I am looking for a one-amp solution for an NS-Stick (stereo output) where I can have a single device (I'm considering the Boss GT-1000 Core), that will process each input separately, then somehow wangling a single output so I don't have to lug two amps onstage at a small club or a 30 minute set at a non-backlined festival setting. Help me Obi-Wan, you're my only hope.
@78tag 3 ай бұрын
I see you got the same response that just about everyone gets - zero.
@JeffHendricks 3 жыл бұрын
Most non-programmable stereo pedals do not do output summing if they have two inputs connected. TCE, Boss, Digitech, etc. are almost all like this. Make sure you test your last pedal in the chain to see if it's summing, or just passing L/R through separately. In my case, if I run a ping-pong delay, I just lose one of the delays. I use a small micro-mixer on my board for cases like that.
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Jeff and for your comment!
@makeajazznoiseYTstoleit Жыл бұрын
I appreciate this video. However what if I have a dual mono signal path and I want to put in a CE-2w (only mono in) on one side and then sum the second stereo out to the other side of my dual mono path, to achieve the CE-2 sound across both of my amps. Would that work?
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Why not just use a mixer like the Rolls MX-28?
@makeajazznoiseYTstoleit Жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc oh interesting suggestion, I'll check that out! I suppose I could find an approximation of the CE-2s default L and R mix through trial and error of mixing it into the dual mono paths. Thanks!
@garrettevans1318 3 жыл бұрын
What about running two outputs out of your stereo pedal into the fx loop of a line 6 pedal board and then going out of the line 6 pedal board in mono into a mono di box?
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Same problem the Line 6 is just another stereo pedal.
@danielnuzum8117 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question, with this implemented, do loop switchers sum every pedal in a mono output?
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
They don't typically sum, just use one side of the L and R channel depending on the output used on a stereo set up.
@wanderwithwendell 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the sum option on the strymon iridium ? It takes a stereo rig and mono out with the sum toggle switch
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Same problem, you can't sum pedals externally. It would need to be done in each of the individual stereo pedals.
@Guddler Жыл бұрын
I'm a beginner. I bought a "beginner" (and budget) friendly multi-fx pedal for £55 - the Zoom G1 Four. I now want to buy a beginner practice amp and I'm struggling because every amp I see has a mono input (even the stereo amps from what I can see), but the Zoom pedal has a stereo output. I've done tests and if I connect it to something with a mono cable, I get lower volume and only the left channel (very obvious with a ping pong delay). So this is fine if I want to play in front of my computer where I have an 8 input interface and can have a stereo input, but what if I want to buy a small practice amp to take round a mates house? Do I just have to suffer the lower volume and incorrect effects? What are you meant to hook up this budget friendly pedal to when it's not headphones or an interface? I thought the answer was to knock up a resister based circuit to sum the two channels together :D
@deicidalmaniac Жыл бұрын
Hi Martin, yes the reality is your entry level multi FX won't sound as good in mono as it does in stereo. Some cheap Amps have two speaker models that have stereo effect loops (BlackStar silverline, boss katana) that could use your multi FX to it's full potential... However I'd just keep the zoom for headphones and build a seperate mono rig if I were you, from personal experience trying to marry cheap multi FX units with guitar amps never works aswell as interface/headphone usage.
@Jeg606 2 жыл бұрын
Bro thank you so much 🙏🤘
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome 😊
@michael_caz_nyc 3 жыл бұрын
Is that the Shiva/Red Seven Little Wave? Mason is going 80's rack-chorus/Landau in a box. I Love that pedal. I always wondered about this topic? Rig Dr. = uncovering the tone mysteries! What can I do with my Big Sky and DD500?
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is! It's a great pedal. I actually like that it's in mono - makes it more simple to use for most rigs and in front of an amp wet/dry, I like the chorus in mono in front before going to delay/reverb in a parallel mixer after the preamp. You can do this inside those pedals and hard pan them. I don't own a Big Sky, but I do it on my Boss DD500 all the time.
@grooveu1965 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation. This may have been asked and answered, but what if you have 2 stereo effects but neither has stereo in, only stereo outs. For example: an fx processor and a delay/reverb pedal that don't have stereo inputs. Current set up is as follow: Guitar>fx processor input>fX processor. FX processor: left mono output>Delay/Reverb pedal input. Delay/Reverb pedal left output to Left Amp. Delay /Reverb Pedal right output to right amp. Is there a way to achieve stereo from both effects or does the mono left in either unit kill the stereo effect before the last stereo effect in the chain?
@VertexEffectsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Typically if you go out mono on the last effect you're only getting one side of the stereo image with the treatment associated with that output in terms of the balance of the L to R ratio of the stereo mix.
@grooveu1965 3 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc Thank you for the info. A bit more research on my effects shows that one of my pedals(Atlantic Reverb/Delay) has a breakout cable ability for stereo. If I go left and right out of my floor FX processor to the Atlantic(end of the chain going out to stereo left and right to both amps) with the Y connector I think I'll achieve stereo from both units. We'll see how it works out.
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