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@@richarddukard8989 184 cm ( 6 feet)

Looking forward to the weapons video

Nunchuck video? How to? I've been Shadow boxing with chucks. Any advice?

Bland det bästa jag sett på länge. Intressant, informativt och framförallt, ett gäng galna gubbar som har riktigt kul

Thank God I’m not the only one.

HIYA!

Except that Oliver ruined the theory by pointing out that it's Muay Thai. What was it that that Bruce fella said????? "A kick is just a kick" or sumsuch..

@@baldieman64 "everything is karate" and "that is muai thai" aren't mutually exclusive. both statements can be true. the theory technically holds.

sidekicks don't work...except when they do. haha.

I invent hella moves.

@@francisxavier1633 I'm sorry the kick guy is Kwonkicker

As the "kick guy" in my Tucson dojo... Try it, but focus on pushing with your toe. You'll notice maybe 15% more power and maybe 5% more speed. The rest is what Oliver said about moving mass.

I invented Wearing my apponent out by just letting him punch and kick me until he gets tired. Then I go to the hospital and he goes to jail. Its MAD. We both lose.

Icy "I Invented" Mike

we had a good time

Someone needs more thigh conditioning 😉

@@hard2hurt I bet. You are both cool people.

@@KARATEbyJesse For someone always talking about his “lehg muh-sells”, he sure seem to have been stung a little. 😉

@@KARATEbyJesse maybe drop a few more Gedan Mawashi Geri on his legs... Do both sides :)

Our absolute pleasure!! 🙌

Practice Dutch kickboxing then, that's pretty common.

If you get the flexibility necessary you can headkick from boxing range, it's an absolutely deadly technique because not many expect it and you can drop the guard by striking to the body. Dutch/Croatian kickboxers do this alot (Cro-cop, Ernesto Hoost, though Ernesto uses leg kicks more, and so on), also kyokushin guys like Andy Hug was are really good at close range headkicking. Also kicking like this allows you to leg or body kick from point-blank range with devastating power because you can basically drop it into place. You can also grab like shown here and head/body/leg kick, which you see in several fighting styles. You just need to be really flexible (splits level) and work on kicking as fast as possible, it works better if you have long legs obviously (which is a double edged sword because you need better flexibility but if you have that you can high kick at close range).

@@hansihobr Kyokushin too (which is basically what Dutch Kickboxing came from in many ways). The only problem is most people don't have the flexibility necessary to kick properly at close range, even leg kicks need you to be able to bring the leg up to the side and down in an arc (like Ernesto Hoost used to f***k people's legs up) or using close range headkicking like Cro-cop, Andy Hug, or Francisco Filho. I always liked kicking like this because I have long legs and people don't expect it coming over the top, especially if you work the body first (or work the head in regards to body and leg kicks).

@@AveSicarius I'll definitely look into those suggestions! I've been working on my flexibility lately, although I have a long, long way to go, but this gives me some extra stuff to work on. Thank you!!

Brothers are the worst!! 🤪

Turning your hips is best if you have the flexibility for close range kicking, or if you are at a longer range. You generally use this (which you can find in Dutch Kickboxing and Kyokushin took) if you have a hold of someone and can't properly rotate into them, but if you watch guys like Bas Rutten, Andy Hug, Ernesto Hoost, Cro-Cop (he has some beautiful close range headkicking), and so on you can still see close range kicking with your hip turned properly. Francisco Filho also used this kind of hip neutral kicking really well, he TKO'd Rick Roufus by getting one of these in when Rick was going for a kick and basically crippled him. Andy Hug also used them like this and got a TKO in similar circumstances I'm sure. Ernesto Hoost also uses them, but tends to go for the hip turn because he focuses on kicking your legs incredibly hard after he forces a weight shift! Depends on the matchup I guess, you can throw kicks super easily like this while clinching, so it's good for MMA, but the difference in power is noticible. Many Kyokushin guys use this style of kicking though, especially while clinching or grappling, so there is plenty of evidence it works well! Probably good to have a good habit of turning the hips though, so when you decide to do this it is intentional.

@@AveSicarius I’m from kyokushin, I agree!

Turning your hip over isn’t just about power though, it’s harder to snap your shin when kicking with the thin edge of the shin rather than the flat part, if people check your kick and you are throwing your leg up hard without turning your hips a good check will snap your shin

There is a difference between a competent fighter throwing a modified kick and a beginner using poor kicking technique

i thought about this when i saw the kick, i remember the early 2000s and K1

I think it is a derivation of Kyokushin technique, you see a lot of such kicking in Kyokushin sparring because they stand so close to each other in basically clinch/punching range the whole time. I was taught low calf/thigh kicks like that when I trained with a Kyokushin guy, and I've also seen them used by Kyokushinkai fighters like Andy Hug and Francisco Filho. Honestly I prefer the Ernesto Hoost method, where he simply pulls you onto full power leg kicks at point blank range, but these kicks can definitely be super effective. He also uses this form of kick though, and given that he is one of the best leg kickers in the world, I'd say that definitely vouches for it. It's like the fabled clinch-range headkick some people can throw out (I had this at one point but my flexibility sucks after lockdown) where you draw the guard away and then throw it from a range noone would normally expect a headkick from. It's more difficult under MMA rules and definitely more effective in Kickboxing/Kyokushin rules, but you can definitely make it work if you are fast enough and set it up properly. You see this quite a bit in Kyokushin competition where fighters are basically right next to each other, one will throw some body shots, bring the guard down, and snap his leg straight up and to the head. You even use a similar form and basically just swing your leg up into their head while pulling them down onto it. You can also replace the pseudo-roundhouse (not sure what else to call it) with an axe/crescent kick as well (which is what Andy Hug would do sometimes).

@@paragon1782 Very much so, Dutch Kickboxing (or Kyokushin to some extent) is a great place to look if you want to use a close range fighting style but you still want to kick. Check out Ernesto Hoost for a dutch fighter who specializes in that style of fighting. I'm not sure if Valtellini uses DKB, but his style is very close to it (close range boxing combinations backed up by serious leg kicks), but I think he's based in Muay Thai. Though honestly it's sometimes hard to differentiate, because there is a lot of crossover with MT and DKB, you can even see this style of kicking by some Muay Thai guys in MMA now, especially to the calf.

I was going to say the same thing. The Dutch style low kick is very much like that.

As Jesse said, most of the original ryu styles had them, as did the old school Okinawan style. Kyokushin doesn't really train it, but we do end up doing it at times

If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much!

Dang it, I was hoping I'd already be on there.

Spider-Man no way home is the greatest crossover Icy mike: hold my head but

I'm looking forward to that one! Did you every get any HEMA gear for sparring? 🤔

I’m editing it as we speak!! 💪

Wow in this video it seemed a little like you were that guy. I mean you kicked Jesse hard when he wasn't prepared to get kicked. Still a great video.

Awesome! Y'all have fun!

Here's to starting when ya can! I am also "late" to the party but I love it.

That is my exact conclusion from Karate to Kick boxing

Is it just a Japanese principle? seeing how its a major part of wrestling and most other clinch stuff as well.

@@midshipman8654 eeh, its in my experience that in japanese arts they are fully aware of shifting mass and redirecting the kinetic energy, they implement exercises that make you practise and understand this principle. But the downwards movement is key I think...

Body punches using this movement are pretty nice for a variety of reasons.

It's also a thing in some styles of boxing where power is generated by "sitting" on some punches.

Do you know the name of these techniques or any resources that describe them? I wanna do some more research :) thanks for the comment

That makes me so happy to hear!! 😇

osu!

Exactly Take what the opponent gives you even if it isn't exactly what your hoping for as you will unlikely get that in a real fight so throw what you can at what can hit and go from there!

that's because Dutch KB has its roots in Kyokushin Karate

Rogan coming from a TKD background where there is never "just enough" power. You are always looking for max power. Not surprised he would think like that.

@@leftocastpunx83 Well, perhaps that's his mindset (about never just enough power)... but I would argue that in TKD the goal is basically to throw pretty much any kick, with good power, off either leg (left or right, front or back), with the same ease, fluidity and speed that you could throw a punch...just with the power of yer legs. The only problem is, it takes a ridiculous amount of training and flexibility to get to this point. So I can imagine folks might spend their time training other things where the payoff is a bit quicker? Just my two cents. Thank you.

@@splatbubble not any kick just tkd style kicks coming from Savate like karate did

Ah a man of culture I see

I think ur on to something here. Also high five for also having this specific venn diagram of interests

Nice!

@@treacherousjslither6920 street fighter is better :/

@Alma its basically kyokushin in tekken 4. They said he went to Brisbane to study Karate and Brisbane at the time had a big kyokushin dojo.

I probably get taken down LESS kicking like this because you recover faster and land squared up to defend it.

@@hard2hurt cool! It’s awesome to get to talk to KZfaq celebrities! Love the content man. If I get stationed in DC I want to swing on by and join a class.

I’d also wager the close range makes take down attempts even harder as well.

It seems useful, but your head goes into a deadly range that you no longer have movement for

Plus it's harder to read and you can occupy them with your hands by punching, pinning, or covering up lol

Not at all a coincidence that Dutch Style takes a fair bit after Kyokushin.

I'm not mad that you commented without watching the video... I'm mad that people 7 people *liked* it! wtf!

Sounds like you've invented the side kick lol

Liam Harrison and Bad Company kick like that

The out/in crescent/axe is my secret sauce. You don't see it coming until the side of the foot is basically eye level. Glad you mentioned it, I'm not the only one .

Ahh the axe kick. I remember all the stretching required to get to practicing that wonderful kick. Those were the days.

@@TheNakedWombat do you have to kiss your knee, while standing like a flamingo?

@@nunninkav5307 It gets my lovers excited.

Seth and Jesse are my favorite but I love icy mike to

AH! maybe that's where I've done this. JKD or FMA.

same same but different

You can also just do what Jesse did, which is throw it at the floating rib area. As Mike shows, that HURTS.

I notice a lot of people from everywhere have hip and knee replacement. It seems it's just a thing when you get past 50 yo.

Yes you can. You just choose not to. It's ok, just don't go around saying (or believing) it is because you "can't." You can.

The blonde dude is tall, he does it.