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Do Texture Packs Actually Boost FPS?

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Chr7st

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@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
What Texture Pack Resolution do you use?
@emeraldcooper
@emeraldcooper Жыл бұрын
16x
@anil_kumar671
@anil_kumar671 Жыл бұрын
16x
@Andres375MC
@Andres375MC Жыл бұрын
16x
@its0l3ryt59
@its0l3ryt59 Жыл бұрын
16x
@notmrbreast
@notmrbreast Жыл бұрын
1024x the lowest resolutions i have
@tofaa3668
@tofaa3668 Жыл бұрын
OpenGL and java programmer here, texture packs do have an effect on the frame rendering time, depending on the resolution scale it can either put more work or less on the render engine. This value is completely dependant on the CPU you have (due to Minecraft rendering fun) and the texture pack you're using. One more thing im yet to test on is the way Minecraft uploads their textures to the buffer, a lot of modern engines have a system for completely stale images or an array of the same pixel which greatly improves the frame rate during that scene
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
Well higher textures will definitely increase the loading time. Going down from 16x is already pushing maximum efficiency. You don't have that big of a surface area to render something on.
@feathersm7966
@feathersm7966 Жыл бұрын
my brother if you program opengl you would know that textures are entirely a gpu memory kinda thing and will only start decreasing performance when it fills up your VRAM
@zetahalo
@zetahalo Жыл бұрын
@@feathersm7966 minecraft is a bit of a different story
@feathersm7966
@feathersm7966 Жыл бұрын
@@zetahalo no, that's not how it works
@someone-mh5uf
@someone-mh5uf Жыл бұрын
@@zetahalo my laptop can handle high graphics but not minecraft so some reason i play on tlauncher but all the ther game work fine so ye i can agree that is different
@savagegamezz
@savagegamezz Жыл бұрын
Opera gx wouldve been the perfect sponsor for this lmao
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
what cause of the performance enhancing? lmao thats funny actually
@nottwenty3
@nottwenty3 Жыл бұрын
i want an opera sposor
@mrdqveslol
@mrdqveslol Жыл бұрын
i just installed opera gx recently, but i forgot to turn on the block ads option, and i got into a website to download something and i got a opera gx ad lol
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
@@mrdqveslol genius advertisements
@MenacingPerson
@MenacingPerson Жыл бұрын
@@Chr7st Because it is an opera skin
@thelaxsoviet5922
@thelaxsoviet5922 Жыл бұрын
for those wondering, the biggest reason a texture pack could affect your framerate is vram. bigger textures = more vram usage. if your textures are big enough, they could take gigs of it, and if you don't have enough, it'll be placed in work ram or main storage, which, compared to vram, are very slow, thus longer time processing frames, leading directly to worse framerates. unoptimized code affects java edition, too
@thelaxsoviet5922
@thelaxsoviet5922 11 ай бұрын
oh hey, my comment got hearted. nice
@Mantis_Toboggan
@Mantis_Toboggan Жыл бұрын
For anyone wondering, the song playing at 4:25 is Humbot by "Wave Saver".
@coccocoashelper6935
@coccocoashelper6935 Жыл бұрын
From my knowledge, whenever you're using a texture pack, it loads both vanilla's textures, and the pack's textures. So if you REALLY want to increase FPS, you have to replace the default texture pack assets in the jar with the pack's one.
@bagastian3125
@bagastian3125 Жыл бұрын
Do you know how to do it?
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
This sounds interesting, could you maybe explain more?
@Damian-cilr2
@Damian-cilr2 Жыл бұрын
@@bagastian3125 insert the texture packs assets folder into the jar directly i think.
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
@@Shrecked it uses an atlas on java, I was talking about bedrock in this case. bedrock doesn't use a texture atlas. but yes, as mentioned packs can't really improve your fps, if anything they make them worse
@tofaa3668
@tofaa3668 Жыл бұрын
No, this was a case for a very very very old version of Minecraft but since then it has been fixed iirc. ALSO, this has nothing to do with FPS, those textures are stored in a cache map and all it will do is increase your ram usage by like 100mb AT MOST
@c.a.member
@c.a.member Жыл бұрын
I wonder if one day you would make custom shield textures or custom totems for normal gameplay. That'll be cool
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
I probably have to for the marketplace pack, if that sounds interesting
@flippergd
@flippergd Жыл бұрын
As a 60hz laptop player with a horrible cpu, i can agree that a certain pack you use can really change the way how smooth or laggy your game feels. I legit have a specific pack line because others just drop my FPS from 60 to like 30 which is legit unplayable. Keep up the content though love the editing and effort you put into this :)
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
thanks for the comment and yeah I feel you as a former laptop player
@yotacaz
@yotacaz Жыл бұрын
30 fps is how I play the game.
@somebody_2837
@somebody_2837 Жыл бұрын
You play at 60 fps? I have a laptop which has several issues, including the display, the audio, keyboard input and mouse input and to top it all off, it's 9 years old with an intel celeron, yet I still get 30 fps on minecraft.
@flippergd
@flippergd Жыл бұрын
@@somebody_2837 well let’s just say my laptop wasn’t exactly made for gaming, with an intel UHD graphics it looks low resolution and my laptop borders are just chunky
@somebody_2837
@somebody_2837 Жыл бұрын
@@flippergd I've got an intel integrated graphics. The graphics APIs (OpenGL and DirectX 8) are embedded in it. Minecraft bedrock is optimized for computers like yours, not for mine though. You got an i5?
@Real_OnyxMC
@Real_OnyxMC Жыл бұрын
2:33 MOM I'M THERE AM FAMOUS OMFG CHR7ST ILY
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
yes
@whiiip
@whiiip Жыл бұрын
Removing particles is very useful especially when playing with your friends irl. It can't be avoided for them to grief or do some fun stuff which annoys you like doing bs with command block.
@stormv1bes
@stormv1bes Жыл бұрын
Fogless texture packs might help as it removes something settings cannot.
@causalguide
@causalguide Жыл бұрын
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@pablodelgado744
@pablodelgado744 Жыл бұрын
I wanted to add something: Adding a high res pack may or may not affect your FPS, but there are times when the resolution of the pack itself affects the rendering of an object, for example: Item frames. If you put a high res item in an item frame, YES, your FPS WILL DROP! But not because of the texture, polygon count is something to take in count too. 3D items tend to make a lot of lag, when dropped, in hand or in an item frame
@samuelcochran130
@samuelcochran130 Жыл бұрын
I don’t usually care about boosting fps, because my monitor can only handle 60 fps and you don’t need more fps than your monitor is made for because you can’t see it, so there’s no point. But great video as always!!
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
Yep great comment!
@random_youtube_dude
@random_youtube_dude Жыл бұрын
​@@Chr7stbut imagine overclocking ur display for a block game (yes i did that 💀)
@thenstop
@thenstop Жыл бұрын
If you get higher fps, your input delay lowers making your game feel more responsive. There is 100% a point it you play competitive.
@madbruv
@madbruv Жыл бұрын
but mouse movement feels choppy on lower fps tho
@samuelcochran130
@samuelcochran130 Жыл бұрын
@@madbruv it doesn’t for me when I turn on vsync
@Craxyy_
@Craxyy_ Жыл бұрын
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@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
wow appreciate it!
@Scurz
@Scurz Жыл бұрын
Just came across this video and noticed you used a screenshot of one of my videos in the intro (lol) A factor you didn't mention is recording performance; If you record while using a pack that has minimal textures, it's lighter on your video encoder as it has to do less encoding calculations and it also saves your bitrate as opposed to using a super grainy/detailed pack.
@orpheus3342
@orpheus3342 4 ай бұрын
aint your video encoder still recording at 1080p or whatever you set it to though?
@AdelFNF
@AdelFNF Жыл бұрын
This explained a lot, it depends on everyone's explanation, all I can say is some texture packs can be good and some texture packs can be bad so everyone can use any pack but for better resolution on their own :D
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
well it is simpler than that, nothing can affect fps besides like a frame or 2
@Relaxhiro
@Relaxhiro Жыл бұрын
@@Chr7st unless u use 128x or above
@dave_000
@dave_000 Жыл бұрын
0:52 "low end laptop" man that is a beast, my laptop can't even handle more than 3 chrome tabs with one file explorer window open in the background
@HenPlayer1
@HenPlayer1 Жыл бұрын
Same 💀
@frillexsick
@frillexsick Жыл бұрын
It does. when i had low pc i had a lot more fps with rp. It depends how much pixels is there. It can boost a lot.
@QtErr_God
@QtErr_God 16 күн бұрын
Great vid explaining the fact that fps cant be buffed. I use 8x and its probably just as laggy as one of my 32x texture packs i use
@fbiagentmiyakohoshino8223
@fbiagentmiyakohoshino8223 Жыл бұрын
bedrock runs better than java because it uses c++ which is the fastest language in the world. its why the max render distance is way higher on bedrock and why high render distances dont nearly affect performance as much as java does
@TheChillToon
@TheChillToon Ай бұрын
still bad at midrange phones tho
@dzlrpacks
@dzlrpacks Жыл бұрын
In java, changing certain models to simplify them requires the loading of less intricate faces, so because of that you would technically get more fps (depending on the blocks you are surrounded by.)
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
well I ran the same tests on java, and pretty much the same results happening, anything lower than 16x is not significant
@dzlrpacks
@dzlrpacks Жыл бұрын
@@Chr7st Oh yeah I know, i meant like block models, such as the fence or cauldron, they require rendering alot of faces so by simplifying them you can get more fps than you typically would. (Sorry for the lack of clarification in my initial comment.)
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
@@dzlrpacks thats actually interesting
@vcommandarv5916
@vcommandarv5916 9 ай бұрын
@@Chr7st yeah and it's very true, there's this texture pack made by this guy and he simplifies fences and other stuff, I get I think 30-60 fps boost in the lobby of a server, also you did the tests in a skywars/bedwars game, these kinds of texture packs have the most impact when you have lots of laggy blocks placed and you are looking at them, like chests, cauldron, fences, so yes low res texture packs do in fact boost performance in extreme cases but barely increase it in normal circumstances like a skywars/bedwars game, while using an old laptop low res pack like 4x4 helped a lot the guy (Qwuiblington): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n5qArJxq073XkY0.html
@RubusCalculum
@RubusCalculum Жыл бұрын
The biggest this that a pack can do is just pulling up the file every time it want to texture something. And when that file gets big then more processing power is required.
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
well said
@Jebin120
@Jebin120 Жыл бұрын
one thing you forgot to take in to account is the persons PC specs. If the person doesnt have a dedicated gpu they will likely use their RAM is Vram which is much slower and since textures are stored in vram they will be stored in the RAM instead of VRAM and the issue is RAM is slower than VRAM so there will be a slow down if the person doesnt not have a dedicated gpu so lower resolution textures packs makes the game run faster.
@RinoSan
@RinoSan Жыл бұрын
It's the same language as, "piercing through defense and protection stat means you do moar damage." When the wording should be, Piercing stats in damage calculations only means you do closer to the damage excluding the protection and defense stats.
@PkmnGymLeader
@PkmnGymLeader Жыл бұрын
The reason that texture packs below 16x seem to have no impact on FPS is because basically no system is going to be bottlenecked by the video memory at that point. In order to run higher resolution textures, video memory (VRAM) is the main demand. With minecraft having such low resolution textures by default, there are no VRAM limitations at that point. Going lower won't affect FPS for this reason. The only time I can see it having an effect is if you have a good PC but somehow limit your VRAM to a very low value.
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
a good technical answer, appreciate the comment!
@zamonplayz8893
@zamonplayz8893 Жыл бұрын
what is the server ip that you are playing
@vqrtxv
@vqrtxv Жыл бұрын
none of my packs do this but i have this pack called nitro purple and it crashes my game every time i use it its not fps but it crashes any ideas to fix?
@Zythencity
@Zythencity Жыл бұрын
Im not an expert but the samurai 16x pack really boosted my fps. My pc broke down and lost all its data and im too lazy to download all that so im currently playing on my laptop . my laptop is low end but the samurai 16x really boosted my fps from 30-40 to 50-60. But u can get good fps by lowering the in-game setting too . Now im playing with 120 fps with ingame setting and the texture pack
@FlakernGaming
@FlakernGaming Жыл бұрын
Good to see you back!
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@GRIEVERPRIME
@GRIEVERPRIME Жыл бұрын
2:17 not chr7st trying to lag his game with above 200fps
@ItzMcFlurry
@ItzMcFlurry 8 ай бұрын
2:08 Yoo my favourite youtuber! Now i know i'm not him but thank you for putting him in.
@MemzDev
@MemzDev Жыл бұрын
The same way increasing textures to x64 or x128 decreasing them to x1 does actually somewhat help out because loaded TXs will take 16x less ram (take this with a grain of salt) Which is why in the before and after you kept showing in this video it was jumping from 188 to 288
@RedStone576
@RedStone576 Жыл бұрын
less pixels to render == more fps, not sure about minecraft tho but i've messed around with pixel games and image rendering enough to experience this
@West12684
@West12684 Жыл бұрын
for java 32-64-128x packs etc etc can and WILL impact your fps if you dont have a good cpu/gpu
@LuckyLego
@LuckyLego Жыл бұрын
I can say for sure that some texture packs can help when on a potato of a android.
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
Best Texture Packs for POTATOES (FPS BOOST) - in all seriousness there might be some affect based on device, my laptop would fluctuate between 1-4 frames higher than default, why exactly is probably because of the particles I included in the tests. So I don't know I'd still say thats not really a big difference
@LuckyLego
@LuckyLego Жыл бұрын
@@Chr7st yeah i don’t ever understand why people with amazing pc’s make the pack videos
@lildomce
@lildomce Жыл бұрын
3:35 what is this minigame and where can I find it
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
its hive ground wars
@scoopshort
@scoopshort Жыл бұрын
a good example of affected fps could be shader packs or whatever umsoea is
@VoyVivika
@VoyVivika Жыл бұрын
Edit: This comes from my understanding of Java Edition, for all I know Bedrock Edition is likely handling this completely differently, it's also possible Java Edition has a Minimum Limit for the Atlas Size which is possibly why this issue may not matter if it also occurs on Java Edition. Original Comment: The texture resolution thing kinda depends, lemme explain. To add some credence to what I'm about to say, I'm not much of a minecraft player these days, I do a lot of work related to World Optimization in ChilloutVR (not affiliated), a VR Game with 100% User-Generated Content and as such if I'm trying to cram 40-50 people into a single place with their own fully custom 3D models and textures (Avatars) I need to try and ensure the World they exist in isn't also eating up resources (mostly Graphics Resources) those Avatars could be using instead. I've spent a good chunk of time chipping away at whatever I can to add breathing room for those Avatars. Graphics Cards have what's called Video RAM (Memory for the GPU), when this memory is full, it has to start bleeding into regular RAM which takes the GPU much, much longer than if it were pulling from VRAM directly. A lot of younger people have laptops which don't have dedicated Graphics Chips, instead they have GPUs built into the Processor, these kinds of GPUs don't have a lot of VRAM. When Minecraft loads a Resource Pack it takes EVERY texture and generates what's called a "Texture Atlas", a massive texture that contains every texture in the game. My theory is that this is sized dynamically based on the texture resolutions being used. Smaller textures, smaller atlas, fits more nicely into their very limited VRAM. Basically, it depends, if your GPU doesn't have a lot of VRAM, it might help, but modern Graphics Hardware in Desktop Computers with many Gigabytes of VRAM do not benefit at all from this unless you're running a super-high-resolution Resource Pack, those eat VRAM too. If you have a laptop that's struggling to run minecraft, maybe it'll help.
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
Lower than 16x doesn't do anything, higher textures definitely can throttle the performance, my low end laptop that I did tests on could barely run 32x and above. And anything lower than default was also not great. The reason for that is because minecraft overlays texture packs above default minecraft. It doesn't directly replace the game files. Hence why even lower res packs, are still getting loaded above default. Hence why logically you typically don't get a better performance once you add packs
@VoyVivika
@VoyVivika Жыл бұрын
@@Chr7st I've realized that the conclusion I've come to is based on my knowledge of the Java Edition, I am not very familiar with how the Bedrock Edition handles this. In Java Edition it generates an Atlas which can vary in size, some textures could be 32x32, others 16x16, again it all depends. I'm not too sure but there could be a Minimum size for this Atlas, that seems silly to me but it could be the case if performance doesn't improve using a lower res texture pack there. My view has come from my understanding of Computer Graphics via Unity3D & my Understanding of Minecraft Java Edition, which could be handling texture packs in a completely different way internally than Bedrock Edition.
@BlakeAtStake93
@BlakeAtStake93 Жыл бұрын
The COC ad I got on this video.
@Yolododoo
@Yolododoo Жыл бұрын
i think it depends on some things like if you have a lot of different colors, it might lower the fps but i might be wrong, it might just be that my eyes die because of some colors
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
colors don't affect fps
@OkISHpogo
@OkISHpogo Жыл бұрын
16x normally but I did 32x once because of Jonah’s fabulous 50k pack
@srps2557
@srps2557 Жыл бұрын
bro i was shocked when i saw that bare bones texture pack actually reduced my fps, i didn't need it to increase performance i just liked the look of it but i didn't expect it to actually reduce performance at all.
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
well texture packs can do that sometimes, just use the pack you like using :)
@saintguardel4649
@saintguardel4649 Жыл бұрын
I use a high quality texture pack in my Android Minecraft Bedrock. It does not lag unless there are sooo many mob spawning on a chunck. So, to fix this, I use 4 chuck on my settings to lower the lag. Well, it works well as expected. My device is a low version of android. So, it's a miracle that this can run Minecraft very well with texture packs.
@tokyo_grinds
@tokyo_grinds 9 ай бұрын
Well 1x1 pixel packs can be useful however you will still need a proper specs and hz(hertz) to keep up with the fps ur getting. Id recommend turning off ur vsync which is the one that prohibits you from getting higher fps which by any means you're gonna be only getting 1 - 60 fps which is the maximum with vsync on but if you turned off your vsync you can have a high fps as possible but if your hz(hertz) is like 60hz or 75hz and u get like 120 fps, you will be having screen tears which affects gameplays thats why most individual gamers would recommend to turn on your vsync.
@ZTRAZ
@ZTRAZ 4 ай бұрын
Really appreciate this video, it just gave me a straight direction.
@cyberrrrrrrrr
@cyberrrrrrrrr Жыл бұрын
I have motion blur and like fog on which adds to it with packs that are high res on an iPad and tbh I don’t rly notice lag it just depends on the version if MC ( the current one sucks )
@hmmdontexist
@hmmdontexist Жыл бұрын
from my experience, it doesn't really affect fps unless if im using high res pack like 512x, but i can confirm that a texture pack with disabled particles could potentially reduce frame drops in scenarios.
@hid6347
@hid6347 Жыл бұрын
i have tested smth like this before, the font is impacting the game performance very much, for example on my pc, 32x font can reduce the fps from 110fps(16x font) to around 50fps, and force unicode font actually help the game, open that on boost fps from 110 fps to around 135 fps (ig this is bc game doesnt have to do a if on every text like alphabets it use minecraft font but if ur typing smth like chinese or korean it need to switch to unicode font, and turn force unicode font on remove the if statement ig)
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
that ssounds really interesting
@Brixz_vazMC
@Brixz_vazMC 7 ай бұрын
your fury 16x pack makes my game smoother tbh
@tony_sim7077
@tony_sim7077 6 ай бұрын
Just got a opera gx ad in this video
@_unreel
@_unreel Жыл бұрын
The reason you experience FPS drops with higher resolution packs is due to the way items are rendered in your hand. The game has to draw new faces for each edge pixel of the item you're holding, and with higher resolution packs, this can easily balloon into thousands of faces being rendered for something as simple as a sword or bow. The same is true when increasing your render distance. The game has to draw all of the chunks in your view, and when you turn up your render distance, you exponentially increase the amount of faces that the game has to render. In general, minecraft's culling is not very exhaustive. The game will render cave systems you can't see, chunks that are behind you, block faces behind walls, particles through walls, and the list goes on. If you solely increase the resolution of block textures, you won't notice a difference. If you increase the resolution of item textures, your framerate will suffer.
@_unreel
@_unreel Жыл бұрын
Blanking out the cloud textures improves your framerate for the same reason, but I'm still completely unsure whether the same applies to particles. My belief is that the quad that the particle is drawn to still gets rendered if the texture is blank. Optifine and Sodium go a step further by suppressing the events that spawn particles, not just making them invisible. There is certainly an advantage to be gained in terms of visual clarity when you can see through crit, potion, and other various particles, though.
@colbyboucher6391
@colbyboucher6391 Жыл бұрын
Well, that's part of it. Also transparency effects (trees) are expensive and a lot of high-res packs love to add more "bushyness" to leaves, which can turn forests into a stuttering mess for some reason.
@ProfParzival
@ProfParzival Жыл бұрын
Very few know how GPUs use textures… try this.. replace a gap with a really high res texture… notice that the first time you use the gap Minecraft sends the texture to the gpu and there can be a noticeable lag, but every time after that.. no lag. That’s cos the cpu loading the texture and sending it to the gpu is the bit that is expensive and Minecraft (or any game) can’t use all the cpu resources for the game alone cos some is being spent loading and sending the texture… but after that the GPU caches the texture. It’s not until it needs to free up gpu ram that it gets removed. So high res textures can affect frames but only on initial load, not thereafter
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
thats wrong, my sword testing proves that. the high res sword would lower the framerate after I had loaded it, your framerate may stabilize but the fps wont jump back up
@gabi72834
@gabi72834 Жыл бұрын
in minecrafat 1.5.2, about 2014, i had a texture pack with clean blocks, with that i was able to play 30/32fps, without that, it was about 25. at that time, this was a huge diferençe, 30fps, up to 32, was smooth as hell i dont know what to say, that just works and i was happy
@scorthion
@scorthion Жыл бұрын
i think it depends on the harware too, on an new pc it doesnt have much difference, but on older Hardwar it does, i had a low-end laptop gpu from 16 years ago and it did make a diffrence. i went from 29 up to 50 FPS. on 8 chunks. Im talking about Java
@scorthion
@scorthion Жыл бұрын
i dont really know anything about that
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
I tested it on my old laptop, it barely runs like 30 fps. Crashes with a 32x Texture pack, but doesn't budge much even with a 1x1 pack. I wish I had a group of like 100 people that I can make some conclusive tests on.
@MrLegendGaming
@MrLegendGaming Жыл бұрын
I have a weird situation. For some reason I get more FPS using 256/512x packs than 16/32x packs. It is indeed silicon sorcery.
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
this is the silicon sorcery I need for my old laptop
@user-hb6eg1fr7u
@user-hb6eg1fr7u Жыл бұрын
🤔
@user-hb6eg1fr7u
@user-hb6eg1fr7u Жыл бұрын
I saw your making a texture pack in 24 hours and i wanted to know what you use to do the art aspect of making packs because Ive been wanting to start making my own packs and i haven't found a good application to make the actual textures and wanted to know what you use.
@AWSMcube
@AWSMcube Жыл бұрын
I use pixlr when making textures, the learning curve is a lot smaller than Photoshop and GIMP but it's still pretty powerful
@northholdgames8596
@northholdgames8596 Жыл бұрын
they can increase bit rate and decrease ram usage. they can also be more compatible for low color displays.
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
What exactly would be your evidence?
@northholdgames8596
@northholdgames8596 Жыл бұрын
@@Chr7st i saw a youtuber spawning much bats that moved and said "welp, there goes my bitrate" and, minecraft uses vectors, vectors use ram, so light texturepacks can decrease color usage as well as ram usage
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
@@northholdgames8596 your minecraft does not lose "bitrate" when particles or entities spawn, that's something that happens when you compress videos. I have no idea what "light" texture packs are supposed to mean, and how less color usage would somehow affect fps in any way
@northholdgames8596
@northholdgames8596 Жыл бұрын
@@Chr7st well, i "light" texturepacks, are those 1 pixel "fps optimizing packs", they may not boost fps but they can boost ram
@nbhjbhyvgbhyuvbhuynnjbhu
@nbhjbhyvgbhyuvbhuynnjbhu Жыл бұрын
​@@northholdgames8596 The only problem would be allocating the memory, that should only happen once because Minecraft caches textures. A texture always has 4 bytes for every pixel. A 1024x1024x4 texture in memory is only 4 megabytes. Every computer can store at least 16 textures in graphics memory, and sending data to graphics memory is fast.
@collarmc
@collarmc Жыл бұрын
Finally a chr7st vid Ive been waiting
@fortnitegamer481
@fortnitegamer481 Жыл бұрын
I used to play with you ages ago when you had a few hundred subs on cubecraff like a year or two ago and your famous now
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
what was your ign? maybe it sounds familliar
@fortnitegamer481
@fortnitegamer481 Жыл бұрын
@@Chr7st it was my youtube name
@alexander_228
@alexander_228 Жыл бұрын
Want more fps = get Optifine (or Sodium) and Patcher and set them up properly.
@the_AMG
@the_AMG Жыл бұрын
How can some people call some texture packs "reduce lag" when its resolution is even bigger than default
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
i dont know, but its not true
@HiByeIDKwhatToSay
@HiByeIDKwhatToSay 3 ай бұрын
I have all my settings to minimum and is still getting 70 fps max and usually 30-50 fps during PVP. Is there any extensions or smth that can improve it? (I'm playing Resent client on chrome cuz I am on a school laptop and I cant download sodium or mods like that)
@StenIsaksson
@StenIsaksson 8 ай бұрын
Entities like animals, mobs, item frames and chests have more impact on the FPS than the textures. If you have 500 animals in one place you will get low FPS. I had a storage building with about 200 chests and another 200 item frames. My FPS dropped from 400 to about 70 just looking at the storage building.
@plaguegaming3642
@plaguegaming3642 7 ай бұрын
smooth lighting in java edition only makes chunk loading slower, I don't think it affects fps, and same with biome blend
@thevaultsup
@thevaultsup Жыл бұрын
The only thing that truly affect FPS is enchantment glint, do the test yourself, fill up your inventory with tons of potions at normal res, you'll get an fps drop when you open the inventory but that fine, now do the same thing with a much higher res, your fps will get annihilated, no idea what's the case but that something i noticed years ago, so i always keep a low res potions overlay just in case i load a pack with a very high res ones.
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
Yep I've found that too over the years, really annoying when it comes up
@kikiprymoprvt
@kikiprymoprvt Жыл бұрын
Before i know you , i maked bad Texturpacks but now i make very good TPs
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
very cool
@Alias_Missing
@Alias_Missing Жыл бұрын
it IS a miracle that my computer runs minecraft [vanilla and modded java and bedrock]
@Brug98
@Brug98 Жыл бұрын
you literally said that 512x512 lowers fps, and i can definitely confirm that, I can't even play that game with that type of texture pack
@Jasbhinder1
@Jasbhinder1 Жыл бұрын
it works only if you have low end gpu or no gpu if you have mid to high end gpu then texture packs doesnt effect much
@Patsman
@Patsman Жыл бұрын
2:23 you gotta teach me how to do that, it's insane
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
what the effect? You just cut the last 0.5ms of your clip, then duplicate it a couple of times, and every time you duplicate it make it shorter. then you just add the sound that I found on the internet and add the screen
@Patsman
@Patsman Жыл бұрын
ty, keep up the good work man
@betcycaroline9758
@betcycaroline9758 Жыл бұрын
Greatly explained, I just use 16x or 32x, I don't use higher resolution not because of the fps decrease. (my PC can handle it) Idk when more pixels are added my eyes feel to hurt don't know why also just a question how much minecoins would be the market place pack?(you don't really have to answer)
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
I honestly don't know yet, I haven't discussed the price with the team thats posting it for me. I'm looking at around 400-500 minecoins
@SoundCubed
@SoundCubed Жыл бұрын
back in the days of my toshiba sattelite gaming with an i3 2230m and intel graphics, 4gb of ram, ive had quite the experience with packs, for some reason, i can swear to this day, that faithful 32x and 64x made my framerates better than default on that laptop. so ive spent a long time trying to figure it out. i am VERY sure that its the way the images are rendered and compressed. so with my packs i make sure that i keep the file size as minimal as possible, i'll do some more testing into this. but i would really like to hear your opinion on my take here
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
Well the way minecraft works is that texture packs overlay above default minecraft, so really any pack shouldn't be improving your fps. Especially if its higher res. I talked to somebody that shared your opinion a while back, and my best explanation was that higher res packs just hide detail more. Making it harder to tell when your framerate is slowing down. When you have a low res pack you can see most pixels and you can track them pretty well. While as most high res packs just look like a a blob of gray, brown, or whatever color the block happens to be. And it may just be that "feeling" you get while playing. I get it all the time with certain packs, the best explanation for that is a combination of just your computer running less background processes, and you yourself playing very well. Those days just exist, and if you had those days with a specific pack, that feeling never leaves. A good example for me is Tashi 32x, while not my favorite pack, I always enjoy playing with it. That's about the best I can explain it, hope this maybe helps in some way. Best case scenario your minecraft is just built different and runs better wither higher res textures, in which case enjoy that while you can. Glad to see you still watch some of my videos, and thanks for the comment!
@Rainyjax
@Rainyjax Жыл бұрын
I imagine there's no way other than modding to increase the FPS on any PC made within the last 10 years. Though, I remember my old 2007 laptop... It could run Portal just fine at 60 fps, but Minecraft barely slogged along at 13-20 fps back then. I tried many different texture packs to try to make it more playable, but nothing made a particularly good impact... so I thought, screw it, let's just throw in the hardest pack I can find and see what it's like! And to my surprise, when I used 128x and 256x, my framerate actually increased MASSIVELY! I didn't change my render distance, and I didn't have optifine (I didn't know it existed until shortly after that experiment), but for some reason, using a higher resolution pack made my game run almost thrice as fast.
@user-lr7qk7yf5n
@user-lr7qk7yf5n Жыл бұрын
hlo, brother although ur pc was 4x old as mine but u were still able to gain massive fps can u tell me the name of that texture pack??
@Rainyjax
@Rainyjax Жыл бұрын
​@@user-lr7qk7yf5n No, that was 13 years ago at this point, back in the old Beta versions. I just looked up HD texture packs on google and picked whatever looked good. I'm not sure if it would still work the same nowadays, or if I just got lucky with the hardware and software working out just right, so try it at your own caution. I would recommend using the Sodium mod to improve your performance if you have issues. It's considerably more effective than Optifine, though it does require the Fabric modloader.
@user-lr7qk7yf5n
@user-lr7qk7yf5n Жыл бұрын
@@Rainyjax ok thx
@EntityGamer956
@EntityGamer956 Жыл бұрын
What helped understand that pack rlly dont effect fos is when i turn down my anti alising in bedrock my fod which use to be alway in 69 to 72 jumped into 129 to 121 that rlly made me realise that pack rlly dint doo anything ro my fps
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
yes
@sycoeditssoccer
@sycoeditssoccer Жыл бұрын
It does for me bc my pc ain't good and I added a texture pack coz I never learm and it made my pc a bit better!
@zekeisntcrazy
@zekeisntcrazy Жыл бұрын
for some reason using a 128x128 texture pack gave me more fps than when i used the default textures.
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
That sounds like you are imagining things, keep in mind minecraft is never the only program running on your device. Windows has a lot of background processes that run while you play. You could just have been unlucky for a couple days because windows was running something that it normally doesnt.
@zQWRTZ
@zQWRTZ Жыл бұрын
Chr7st is a hive main now bruhh💀 btw amazing video!
@tamion3830
@tamion3830 Жыл бұрын
hey, nice video. btw what client are you using?
@puglinbrute9264
@puglinbrute9264 Жыл бұрын
the fact of the matter is: if lower res packs don't improve your fps then higher res packs wouldn't make your fps worse. also literally every other game has a setting to turn down texture detail to improve performance, so who wouldn't be the same for minecraft?
@itstabularr
@itstabularr Жыл бұрын
yeah i always thought those packs that claim to 'boost' fps were pretty useless (only boosting about 10fps). As someone whos fps never really drops below 300, 10 more fps isn't even a difference. However, packs with a really HD sky do seem to give less frames than usual, at least for my pc. For anyone who has a really low end device definitely turn ur antiailiasing down to the lowest but if you have a good pc turning it down will decrease ur fps for some reason. Anyway great video chr7st!
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
thanks! and good points about anti-aliasing
@mr.k3477
@mr.k3477 Жыл бұрын
No way you keep above 300 fps when my computer that's 3k can barely get 60 with max settings
@darth_vedant669
@darth_vedant669 Жыл бұрын
When chr7st uploads it ends my endless search for good content to watch while bushing my teeth
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
W
@cheezy269UwU
@cheezy269UwU Жыл бұрын
actually low res texture packs use less ram and vram so they still help a bit but it's not noticeable on high end devices
@DylpiqkleSTier
@DylpiqkleSTier Жыл бұрын
I actually want to test this
@WhataDrawing.
@WhataDrawing. Жыл бұрын
Chr7st can u tell me which is the best texture pack to use which doesn't decrease fps. Well I am your one of the biggest fan.
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
any of my packs ;)
@bestenderslayer9302
@bestenderslayer9302 Жыл бұрын
you should make a video on texture pack making
@aryszin
@aryszin Жыл бұрын
so im a programmer, particles arent only textures. theres an object being calculated even if the texture is invisable, because thats how coding works?! theoretically is loading a 1x1 image better than a 16x16 but thats in the microfps. you dont need to make something transparent, only if a game renders it based on the image, but u can just resize an image to 1x1px
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
Yes you are correct that the game still loads the particle entities. They just don't have textures. It's really baffling for me and I don't know how to explain it. Theoretically it shouldn't really improve fps. Which is why I was surprised at my fps going up by like 5.
@Ori6969
@Ori6969 Жыл бұрын
Good vid man thanks alot i love ur content keep ip tue amazing work
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@kdodjfk
@kdodjfk Жыл бұрын
Ty-el ui pack actually does improve fps, i already cheched it. I always play on my phone where it can get really lag with addons and that resource pack just helps a lot.
@loganalakayak5744
@loganalakayak5744 Жыл бұрын
How to fix a texture when u visibly erase it and then port the pack and see it in minecraft
@McEazPz
@McEazPz 2 ай бұрын
It’s weird how I play hive and I play perfectly lags drops will be very rare there but when I get on Cubecraft my lag drops go from 5% to like 70% idk why it’s weird
@AudioMagicYT
@AudioMagicYT 11 ай бұрын
Some texture pack can boost fps like optifine+ it lowers all design and all that makes Ur games lag the downside is Ur render distance is gonna be 3 chunks
@SpacefulKel
@SpacefulKel Жыл бұрын
since now i finally have an ACTUAL WORKING pc, fps is not a problem for me anymore, so yeah, not caring much about lagging anymore. anyway, im probably going to change my mind since u read my comment and talked about it lol. thanks for clearing my doubts! now im smart like a leaf
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
yessir you are smart boi now
@Mantis_Toboggan
@Mantis_Toboggan Жыл бұрын
I don't even see fps drops with 32x texture packs. I use faithful 32x, and it's honestly the best texture pack IMO.
@Zeno4xfz
@Zeno4xfz Жыл бұрын
Bro can I use your texture pack in. My Minecraft Pls give the pack here
@mintyexe.
@mintyexe. Жыл бұрын
Thank you so mcuh for making a video about this!! By any chance do you know the name of the pack in the thumbnail (the 16x first image)
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
its my marketplace pack, gonna release in about 2-3 weeks
@mintyexe.
@mintyexe. Жыл бұрын
@@Chr7st oh okay, thank you so so much!!
@burtoncraft
@burtoncraft Жыл бұрын
One time my friend and I were playing Minecraft together and there was a fire so my friend spawned so many lingering potions the particles crashed a literal PS5
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
sounds like a great time
@strikerx1674
@strikerx1674 Жыл бұрын
The legend was back
@congphammusic
@congphammusic Жыл бұрын
Texture packs are not improve your FPS but if you lower your Minecraft version it could be make sense because : Higher Version = Less Frames Lower Version = Higher Frames
@Chr7st
@Chr7st Жыл бұрын
yeah the recent versions have been horrid
@bestenderslayer9302
@bestenderslayer9302 Жыл бұрын
you should make a video on a tutorial for making golden apples swords etc
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