Hi Goodhumans - we made an error, and Ciera's name is misspelled in this episode. We are working to get this issue fixed so that her name is represented properly in the video itself, but in the meantime, we know that some of you have been looking for her on social media and having trouble finding her due to our mistake. You can find her here: instagram.com/cierafosterofficial/ We're working on this and will hopefully have it resolved shortly. Thank you Ciera for being a part of this discussion, and we sincerely apologize for our mistake.

Genuinely believing one race is not capable of experiencing racism is incredibly racist.

I actually want to see a middle ground episode between Africans and African Americans. For the most part there are still issues between both groups on whether to identify as one or be separate due to historical experiences, culture and geographic location

"Its prejudice, not racism" prejudice based on race IS racism 😭

I love that this was an actual discussion & not an argument. We need more conversations like this.

We need a “white mom biracial vs black mom biracial” video

I wish more people understood the difference between discrimination and racism.

Prejudice against race is racism. Prejudice based on sex is sexism. LIFE does not discriminate, PEOPLE do. Be proud of your heritage.

Bryn is such an amazing woman. When she asked "what's it like" I really saw her humanity and her kindness.

I’m not sure if it was done before, but having 3 different parties in a video is really neat

I just wish there were more races i.e hispanics, asian etc in order to make the conversation even more nuanced. Too often it seems like the racism is mainly spectacled in black and white spaces whereas it would be great to hear an Asian or Hispanic experience with racism more, and their overall point of view.

i love how everyone respect eachnother. didnt cut anyone and always said “i respect that” i respectfully disagree” like dudeee this is what an actual OPEN MINDED IS. You know you have a diffrent opinion and you know you wouldnt agree with that but you still listen and respected each other experiences. diffrences is just diffrences after all. diffrences makes you learn to respect others.

I really appreciate how y'all at Jubilee take the comment requests for middle ground episodes! Love what you're doing with this channel!!

For some reason, every single episode of this series or Spectrum makes me really think about how massively complicated humanity's history and morals are.

My great great grandfather was one of the first freed slaves in Louisiana able to purchase land. He made sure to put, in writing, on 5 different stationaries (because some lawyers at the time didn't accept a will from a former slave so he had to find one that would legitimize it) that his little plot of land would go to his children. His first son did the same. My grandfather as well. My dad took me to a tiny 1/8 acre of land in Louisiana and said, "Our family is the PROUD owner of this land". It's one of the smallest but biggest, most amazing things I've seen in my life.

This was the most well put together group to touch on the subjects. Everyone was wanting to learn something rather than just project something and state cases of experience and just discuss. I definitely feel I was able to take a broader view from more perspective in this video and not feel like it was propagandal input or just forced.

when the white girl said you can't win tears just rolled down my face cause its like she really understands. She is perfect to be a therapist.

The dictionary definition of racism does not exclude any race from experiencing racism. Prejudice towards a person regarding skin colour is racism.

Never feel shame of who you are and how you're born.

What an amazing group interview with amazong people. Thank you so much

i like how calm they remainded and understood each different pov

We need a middle ground for native Americans because the negative effects of colonialism are very prevalent in their lives.

I think just the fact that everyone stayed completely calm in their tone of voice is really important for these conversations!

This was one of my favorite middle ground episodes!

Wow! This is an awesome discourse.... I love the objective and constructive discussion

I want to see a full uncut version of this because I believe the conversations even as deep as they already are, had the potential to be even deeper. Granted I know automatically certain sides can’t speak freely without the internet blasting them, but I do like the idea of sitting together and having a real discussion of past, present and future like this

Do a blind and deaf middle ground. It'll be interesting seeing how they view the world differently without their senses and the different prejudice that goes along with their disabilities.

This is one of the most respectful Middle Ground episodes. There was minimal interruptions and they gave each other space to fully express their points of view. And all that done without a moderator! Bravo!

I think this is one of my favorite middle grounds because everyone was very respectful of each others opinions I enjoyed watching this

The dialog between Jimmy and Ciera was phenomenal. We need more conversations like this.

When we were taught about racism in school, the definition was "discrimination against someone based on their skincolour, ethnicity etc." So it doesn't only include black people

i genuinely liked and respected all of the people speaking in this video, unlike most other videos where at least one person is easily hate-able

That last guy just bothered me, he's so brainwashed he doesn't even see how it affects his people... so ignorant I hope she changed his way of thinking

Nuanced, filled with respectfulness, intelligent thought and articulation. This is truly one of the best middle ground episodes I've ever watched.

I really appreciated how respectful everyone was. I feel like when people are calm and respectful about an opinion that you don’t necessarily agree with it makes it much more palatable and makes you more likely to listen to the other person and maybe even learn something. That’s definitely something I personally need to work on so I really appreciated the people in this video

This video is amazing, this how humans should interact and learn and grow, everyone grew from these conversations

Excellent discussion!

I think it would be interesting to see a video on racism for Native Americans. I feel like they don't really get much recognition in these topics so it would be cool to see their perspective on things.

This is what a healthy conversation looks like. Many people can't have them but it's always nice to see one :)

Why is an actor giving lessons or classes to LAPD instead of actual professionals with degrees in the fiellds relavent to this topic?! That is INSANE!

Very well done. I appreciated this group very much.

Jubilee, we're still waiting for Black Africans vs Black Americans video😭

It would be interesting to get a conversation going between Black people from other countries in the world and Afro Americans to talk about how they view racism.

Suggested this discussion...found this discussion 👏🏽💪🏽👍🏽

Nice episode, I would have loved if one of the mixed girls pretty fairly grew up around both sides or predominantly their black side of the family. I'm sure her perspective would have been a little different. Being that I grew up around my dads side/the black side of my family, my experience was/is for sure different than it would have been if I grew up around my moms side or both equally pretty positive. Not discounting their experiences obviously, it would have just been a nice added perspective

As an African (From Zambia) , I would like to see middle ground between Africans and African-Americans. To make it fair the African sample should include individuals from varying divisions of Africa (southern, central, Eastern, Northern and western Africa) as we are diverse in our cultures and understanding.

The answer to Jimmy's question of potentially over-specialising the police force is to make every cop go through the same basic training before specialising into "domestic" or "social" or something like that - same as an MD. Every doctor gets a basic level of training before studying particulars of surgery or podiatry.

this was an amazing conversation

This is the most respectful moment of this series even considering the disagreement. It’s clear why.

Ciera and Jimmy's conversation was absolutely fantastic. We need more dialogue like this.

this was a really great conversation. I'm also really glad there was a Jewish person who identifies as white included in the conversation. I think it shows intersectionality and how identities are complex. And how he also acknowledged that he has simultaneously experienced discrimination for being Jewish while also being perceived as white.

As a wife of an officer, you can’t just send a social worker to a call. Police shouldn’t be dealing directly with the mental health call but still need to respond with the social worker. Most of those calls are dealing with the worse parts of mental health that easily turn violent.

Why make these videos if you are going to edit and not show the full conversation, y’all are doing a great disservice to these conversations that deserve to be heard. You owe it to the fans.

lots of people need to understand the different types of racism like interpersonal racial prejudice is not the same as historical, structural inequalities.

Thank you for separating black people and biracial people. It feels like they're always put in the same category, when my experience as a black person is different to that of a biracial person's.

What an awesome conversation!

WOW!!!!! This was GREAT!

I think it’s interesting hearing the difference in opinion between the black and mixed people who were raised by white people and in white communities vs. black and mixed people who were raised in black neighborhoods by black parents.

All races can be racist. Just because people recently decided to try and change the definition, doesn’t mean the definition. When she repeatedly says “racism by definition”, the definition she is using is not the actual definition.

This was very great for the first time I learnt so much regarding a race conversation

I personally think I do sometimes wish I was a different race, not because I think it would be easier, or that I would enjoy it more or something, I just think it would allow me to have first hand experience that I can't have now

there is a difference between racism and systemic racism, and that's the core of the debate. any race can experience another person judging them for their race, but not every race experiences systemic racism and it certainly varies by culture and location.

I really appreciate how Sierra kept her cool and explained her position with such grace. But for the most part, everyone in this discussion did a great job!

Honestly, this is so interesting to watch because although I may not look white (my mom's side of the family is native American so I am around 15% and I personally inherited naturally very dark skin- often being mistaken for light-skinned or mixed) I am majority white which has put me in a situation to observe many things. especially in the way, people interact with my white-looking friends. I have seen and heard how they are treated and honestly, it leaves me very surprised with how people say things to them and never get in trouble( I am still in school). Also I go to a school that is VERY diverse with people ranging from all races. Almost every week I hear someone calling them a cracker ( which in my opinion is like calling someone the N-word) and then when anything happens they start to say things like "ya its because your white and that's why" when often times the situation has nothing to do with skin color. Even when they talk about life at home I will hear comments like "Wow my black family could never" when I know that these people have a better home life than the said white person. Then It also makes me mad when I hear these people get pressed when someone even slightly mentions ANYTHING to do with their skin they start saying they are racist well they are being completely serious. This also interests me because would people be saying these things to me if my skin was a slight bit paler? because that could have easily been me since some of my siblings have very pale skin which means just a slight change in my inheritance and that literally would be me. So I can very obviously tell these comments have nothing to do with the culture or behavior of white people since I was raised in the exact same way as my white friends(albeit a slight difference because yk different families have different rules) and these comments are never said to me when the only difference between me and my friends are skin color. I think that overall I don't understand how people just talk and talk about wanting to end racism and stuff but yet talk about things like white privilege in this day and age. Like ya maybe 30 or more years ago and maybe even with the older generation but how does it make it ok to very blatantly be racist just because someone has less melanin than you and therefore means that their ancestors beat yours so that means you can hurt them for someone you most likely have never met in your entire life. And I'm not trying to say that it's okay to be racist to other people than white just LITERALLY the golden rule of treating someone the way you want to be treated. If you want to end racism (or don't want people to be racist to you) maybe don't be racist because I can assure you using a slur daily is being racist. (also, I'm not saying that the term cracker is as bad as the N-word I'm just saying a slur is still a slur no matter the weight behind it) Cracker definition: encompasses a broader derogatory connotation. It became synonymous with ignorance, backwardness, and perceived inferiority, perpetuating stereotypes about poor white Southerners as uneducated, criminals. Racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group Also, I don't particularly understand why people get annoyed when asked what they are maybe this is different for some people but I am stopped on a daily basis to be asked what I am, I mean I know I look different with blonde straight long hair and pretty dark skin with brown eyes like I just don't understand why people get mad at peoples curiosity like if you're so proud of your race then why do you get mad when people ask questions about it? If you read all that thx :) just got a little heated there and I would love for you to leave your own experiences or opinions in the replies

This girl (Ciera) has no idea of what racism means. racism is simply hating someone and treating them differently based on their race. No one goes to prison if they are innocent

this was such a lovely transparent and respectful conversation. everyone's input was validated and valued by the rest of the group. it is so evident that everyone came simply to understand. this is how we come together and move forward. ❤️

I love how understanding everyone was of each other’s views even when they clearly struck a nerve ,they responded clearly but calmly. This is how you have conversations!

Great people great discussions great representation of mentalities love it

She's an actor... that's all I needed to hear..

This is my favourite episode so far! Everyone was so respectful of each others opinion and I feel like everyone actually listened!

I think one of the major problems of discussing racism like this in the larger society is that there is still an ongoing battle over the language. You could get glimpses of it in this video. There are two different understandings of what racism is. While I do agree with Sierra, a lot of people won't be able to get past her approaching racism in a more academic sense. Unfortunately, the more specific terminology such as systemic racism has already become a trigger word. It's hard to see how to work through these issues when some people seem to be intentionally trying to divide us into separate realities.

Stop letting people repeat the lie that racism by definition must be systemic and include a power dynamic. It's a dumbass definition invented by a sociologist just a few decades ago. Words are defined by those who speak the language. You can't just have one clown suddenly decide the definition of "sad" is now "to be excited". We have to collectively agree and accept that definition. If there isn't consensus, then the redefinition doesn't stand. Racism, like literally any other -ism, is an ideology and belief system.

"I just choose to not focus on it non stop so it doesn't hold me back" The last words are the ones to live by. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Love the concept of a 3-group middle ground. Would love to see more of that, especially for overgeneralized groups like Asians. Maybe an episode for East & Southeast & South Asians. Or even Mainland Asians, Maritime Southeast Asians and Pacific Islanders.

I just wish all POC should have been included, Asians, Hispanics, South asians, Middle Eastern's, and more. A lot of the time when racism is discussed, it is only seen as "black vs. white" when that is not entirely true. SO many races have gone through so much and theres so much history behind the racism they receive. I think its important to include them as well.

Jimmy has such a nice voice

I think for conversations like this they should have biracial people that are outwardly appearing white, black and ambitious. I think from those varying lived experiences you may get different points of view on how they are treated and their family members of lighter or darker complexion.

"Do white people experience racism?", but yet the group can't even agree on the simple definition of racism. There is racism, which everyone can be a victim of, and then there is institutional racism which may be a different conversation.

The semantic debate over the word “racism” really annoys me. The dictionary definition of racism does not restrict its meaning to only being institutional. Racism on an interpersonal level is still by definition racism.

The US view on “race” is truly fascinating. Its so weirdly black and white and it seems to view people as completely separate groups of people who can barely coexist.

I find it amazing how a narrative gets told and people run with it as though it is fact even though there’s no basis of truth in it. These same people are not willing to do their homework and will just take the word of people who says the things they like.

This was honestly one of the best conversations I've seen from this channel. Everyone listened to each other with empathy and respect. It was so beautiful to watch this group converse and learn from each other. Would love to see more of this convo is possible.

This video made me really think about intergenerational wealth, poverty, trauma etc. Part of the reason Joshua didn't feel as strongly about the treatment of his ancestors is because he was adopted and therefore he didn't inherit the benefits or struggles they incurred over their lives. A lot of black people are born into poverty because of the cycle of poverty that was begun by letting slaves free without any compensation or leg up to get themselves started in the world - they were just cut off into the world with just the clothes on their backs. No money, no one willing to give them jobs, no home, no vote, no nothing. But there are also plenty of white kids born into poverty due to their parents having problems with addiction, or gambling, or mental health, or physical health and those kids don't deserve their lot any more or less than black kids. Perhaps society should focus on aiding people in POVERTY regardless of skin colour, funding programs and education in POOR neighbourhoods rather than black or white neighbourhoods. Since statistically black people make up a higher percentage of the poor population more black people would get aid but it wouldn't have anything to do with their skin colour and everything to do with their current situation. That way Native Americans who live in poverty would also get help instead of having to wait for people to remember that they exist too and black people weren't the only race to be fucked over in America.

These ladies are were incredible and on point what a beautiful group.

I feel like many people have discrimination confused with racism. The two are similar but NOT the same. But I appreciate “middle ground” holding conversations like this one! I love all human beings!! ❤

I long for more conversations like this one. Listening without ego and really hearing another person from their perspective... Priceless. These conversations are so necessary!

The police officer and the activist were both well spoken individuals. I love when we get to see trained professionals on topics and experience within these conversations. But I have to say when the police officer asked Cierra to define racism and tell us the source of her definition. I was a little frustrated because instead she retold history. But definitions should be just that - something from a dictionary. But I loved her inputs because you can see there is intelligence and experience there. Their dialog together was great.

Yes, white people absolutely experience racism. As a blue eyed blonde i was hated by the few black people I encountered just because of that and they made it clear to me. Then there's the colorism that actually does happen within the white race. I was favored in many ways because of my traits but at the same time I was resented for it by white people with brown eyes/hair. A lot of white people favor those with blue eyes and blonde hair. Just look at the white people on tv/movies, it's blue eyed blondes. There's even debasing description of brunettes like mousy brown hair, while blondes get described with golden locks. Don't know why it's not talked about.

I definitely got beat up for being white as a kid. My mom had to have an older girl walk us home because it got so bad. She got murdered by her mom's boyfriend trying to protect her mom. She was black. But she didn't care about mine or my siblings skin color. She was in 4th grade...

I love videos like this! It speaks up about topics that people try to sidestep. I would love to see a video including south Asians regarding the topic of racism. I feel like racism towards south Asians specifically, such as Indians and Sri Lankans is not spoken about and is swept under the carpet. I feel like as south Asians we are taught to accept it, making me feel like lesser than white people. We are called dirty, disgusting and overall an unattractive race to date. I find that only other races of colour respect me to the same level I respect them.

I want to see a middle ground with different skin toned African American talk about assumptions about the other side. Darker skinned African Americans and lighter skinned African Americans. Growing up as a lighter skinned African American I did experience racism by some caucasian people, Asian and Spanish people, I have also experienced colorism from and still experience colorism from other African American people of different skin tones.

The people who always tend to argue about these types of issues are the same as ones. If your passion in your speaking of something where we should all agree we need to just get along and stop using our eyes to see and use our hearts

I feel like jimmy kind of made a solid point by stating that as a officer, being in one community for so long and having constant negative interactions with one group can create this bias in ones mind. But like nia was stating, more culture competence can help fight that.

Bryn will make a fantastic therapist, her understanding and listening skills are insane

The way that Cierra speaks reminds me so much of how gentle Janet Jackson speaks!! And she’s gorgeous just like Janet too 😍😍😍

I appreciate the discussion. I wish it had included several more ethnic groups but it's a start.

I genuinely started crying listening to Christina. Almost all of my best friends have been mixed, and being mixed myself I've wished I was other races, I've been confused, I've missed out on the black side of my family. I feel for her so much, and I hope this is something more people begin to understand. I've longed to be white with straight hair and blue eyes, felt guilt for feeling that, and felt like I missed out on a part of myself.

I really admire those who are able to converse with others with opposing thoughts without getting angry and disrespectful. It it a skill I strive to possess. Thank you Jubilee! I enjoyed listening to this conversation.

We definitely want our 40acres and a mule idk wtf lil dawg talking bout...

The black dude that was adopted by white parents, I disagreed completely on his view of reparations and I’m assuming because he was adopted he doesn’t have that connection to his ancestors so I don’t blame him for his logic. Just like that woman said we didn’t experience slavery directly however we are still going through the effects of it till this day