Do you feel abused by your autistic partner?

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Jodi Carlton, MEd - Neurodiverse Relationships

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Jodi Carlton, a neurodiverse relationship expert, responds to a viewer's comment about the challenges faced by neurotypical individuals in relationships with autistic partners. She addresses misconceptions about abuse, emphasizing that it involves knowingly causing harm. Jodi notes that both harm and misunderstanding can occur in any relationship, and labels such as 'abusive', 'narcissistic', or 'toxic' must be applied carefully. She also highlights the importance of personal empowerment where harm, intentional or not, is being experienced. The conversation brings insights into managing neurodiverse relationships.
00:00 Introduction and Comment Discussion
01:27 Understanding Autism and Individual Differences
02:10 Defining Abuse and its Relation to Autism
03:19 The Impact of Misunderstandings in Relationships
05:08 The Power of Labels and Their Consequences
05:24 Taking Personal Accountability in Harmful Relationships
06:32 Understanding the Reasons Behind Unchanged Behaviors
07:24 Addressing Another Viewer's Comment and Experience
08:36 The Importance of Insight and Growth in Relationships
09:38 Conclusion: Taking Charge of Your Life
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@77maanno 7 ай бұрын

The problem is that when you tell your partner that they are hurting you, and they keep repeating the behaviours, then it does turn into abuse. No matter how hard it is for them to understand why they are hurting you. They have been told they do, and that should be enough for them not to want to keep doing it. But when they don’t, they are actually abusing you even though it’s not intentional. Abuse is not always intentional. And if we do not call out abuse when it’s abuse, we become enablers and victim blamers.

@juliekong5013 7 ай бұрын

I like to emphasize the *responsibility* piece. If a person is able to take appropriate responsibility in other areas of his life, in other relationships, and chooses not to take appropriate responsibility to grow in relationship with his partner, it then becomes a *choice that he is responsible for*. By not taking the responsibility to seek help to change, he is choosing to cause harm, even if he may not have the capacity to comprehend how his behaviors are destructive. He has made a choice not to take responsibility.

@77maanno 7 ай бұрын

⁠@@juliekong5013absolutely! Yes, you say it so well. This is another part of it that is equally valid and important. I think what I said about being told that you are hurting your partner, but continuing to do so, is just another part of being responsible or taking accountability and responsibility.

@chrismaxwell1624 7 ай бұрын

Just remember telling doesn't mean that they understand.

@77maanno 7 ай бұрын

@@chrismaxwell1624sure, but how far is it ok to go without responsibility and accountability? If we don’t hold grown up people accountable for their actions we become enablers. If I tell a grown up person «you hurt me/it hurts me when you say/do xyz». Do they not also have a responsibility when it comes to changing behaviours then, and to do what they can to understand what you mean when you say that? There are things that can be difficult, but this is not impossible. If we think that then I think that would be ablist.

@JodiCarlton 7 ай бұрын

this is true. However, I do agree that it then becomes important to be curious. Not understanding is not a reason to dismiss or ignore a partner's stated experience.

@kellirdan 3 ай бұрын

I was with you until you said that abuse is only abuse if the abuser knowingly commits the abuse. As a survivor of generational family abuse, I can tell you that my abuser doesn’t believe they’re abusive. What would you call emotional/mental/physical harm to an individual in that situation? If it’s repetitive? Or it’s only once, but is traumatic? If you tell them it hurts, but they become defensive or use calm & logic to rationalize it’s about your behavior? That’s abuse. Regardless of what my abuser says.

@JodiCarlton 3 ай бұрын

Hi Kelli. I'm glad you commented. To clarify, I am in no way dismissing the painful experiences of people like yourself who experience harm. It can be devastating. However, feeling harmed does automatically mean someone is being abusive (sometimes it does, but, there are so many reasons why someone can experience feeling harmed by a person's behavior/actions that aren't because abuse is actually happening. So, to answer your question, there is not a one-size fits all definition for what is abusive behavior and what is not. Sometimes a one-time traumatic hurt is simply tragic and unfortunate, but not necessarily abuse. Sometimes repetitive hurt is rooted in differences in needs and preferences, but is not actually abuse. My goal here is not to minimize the horrors of true abuse - it is to highlight the importance of using caution labeling a behavior or person as "abusive." is a catch-all for behavior that feels hurtful. Just like the term narcissism has been watered down so much that it is common for people to say "we're all a little narcissistic," when this is absolutely not true. If we label all behaviors that result in harm to others as "abusive," we are all "a little bit abusive," which is also absolutely untrue. Hope that clarifies things a bit.

@user-qy7fe9fb4j 19 күн бұрын

I agree with you...abuse is abuse whether or not it's intentional or not intentional and that's what is the difference of how you deal with the abusive behavior in the person who is causing it.

@user-qy7fe9fb4j 19 күн бұрын

@@JodiCarltonI disagree also abuse is abuse. It's not always meant or even recognized by the abuser but it does not mean that the BEHAVIOR is not there. Some people might not know they are acting out abusive I agree but it does not mean that they are not abusive. Just that they might not be aware of there abusive behavior. Just like an addict might not realize they have an addiction but it does not cover up the fact that they have an addiction.

@user-dn8hd6xn1e 18 күн бұрын

You’re correct. If they are using you to meet their needs and not caring to meet yours, that’s “knowing.”

@SoulevolvePsychic 11 күн бұрын

Its amazing how many of us on the receiving end of these kinds of behaviours have to suck it up because they have autism and its not their fault. Oh pleeeeze - it still feels like crap, and are you then having to enable and give in to them because they can't help it, in the meantime feeling hurt and unseen or heard yourself. So I hear you x

@Lithiel 5 ай бұрын

I’ve learned to set boundaries with my best friend, who claims that they’re autistic. In the past they used to shut down everything I liked, if they hated something I enjoyed, they’d give me a whole lecture about WHY they hated it and thus I’d stop talking about it. It made me feel guilty and depressed that so many things I loved, they hated and I couldn’t enjoy them without their constant reminders about they the things sucked. It made me feel worthless. I finally TOLD them how that made me feel- explaining at length how this cuts off communication, if all they had to talk to me about was what they hated about what I loved- then how are we ever going to have fun? How can we be friends? What’s enjoyable about being together if it’s constantly about what they hate about my interests? Also, them hating something, **doesn’t trump why I love it** and I deserve to be able to enjoy something in the moment because I like it- and doing so- doesn’t invalidate why they hate it, or their feelings. I told them, if there’s something that you hate about something, I’ll listen to your feelings about it but I will listen only once, you do not need to *constantly remind me why you hate it* every time I’m enjoying it. Your feelings have been heard, and I remember them, but that doesn’t mean that I am not allowed to ever enjoy that thing in my life, ever again. If you are, my friend, you’ll respect that I take joy in something in particular, and that it means something to me, “just as I do for you.” “There will be times when you like something and I don’t like, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to bring it up while you’re in the middle of enjoying yourself, because you ARE enjoying yourself- and I want you to revel in it and be happy!.” They are loving something and that’s great. Example; Durians. I HATE them, but they LOVE them! They know I hate them, but I also love- that they love them more- than I hate them. So I’m always smiling with amusement when they are enjoying them, because I respect and even am impressed they like those. Then I go and eat something I personally enjoy. My best friend (of over 18 years now) respected the conversation we had and made that choice; to start respecting my love of something- more than their hate of it. This resonated very strongly. They loved the fact that I liked something, more than they hated something. That changed the language of how we even talk about something we don’t like- it’s framed from a sense of awe and respect of the other that they CAN enjoy it, and seeing why as something fascinating and impressive. Like some kind of Feat of Strength! Of course we find things we BOTH enjoy too- but that initial confrontation/conversation was important and was the defining factor over whether or not we stayed friends, to this day they are undiagnosed but they do have many other signs of neurodivergence, as do I- but this is how we ensured our difficulties didn’t hinder our ability to be kind and loving to one another. They are one of my closest and oldest friends and I honestly see us growing to be old together~ And still eating different cakes, I’ll have my straw berry and they’ll eat durian flavoured ~

@user-tq4fm4he8i 5 ай бұрын

Autistic people rarely intend to hurt, but the outcomes can be the same as if they did. I'm not sure I agree that intent is required for harmful behavior to be called abuse or neglect. Regardless, that's semantics. The outcome for the victim can be the same.

@JodiCarlton 5 ай бұрын

I agree that the outcome can be the same. So anyone who is in a relationship where they are experiencing harm needs to assess the intent as well as the ability, willingness, and motivation of a partner to learn and implement changes. The harm done is not in question, and it is critical to determine how to stop or minimize the hurt. However, labeling someone as "abusive," is a very strong term that carries inaccurate character implications when there is no intent to harm. This is also an extremely damaging accusation to make that can also have devastating results. In my opinion, this is the abusive behavior because there is typically a vindicating need for validation that involves an intent to judge, shame, vilify, guilt, and rebuke the autistic person by assigning the label of "abuser," or"abusive." It's not just semantics - words carry powerful weight. Meeting hurt with hurt is not the answer.

@LunaMariaASMR Ай бұрын

Asperger’s people don’t take accountability for their abusive, neglectful behavior, that means they’ll never change. And even worse -they blame their partner for all their problems. There was no hope with my ex and I am so happy I left him. They are not worthy of an empathic, caring partner trying to save the relationship, when all they do is think about themselves.

@user-tq4fm4he8i 5 ай бұрын

I so agree with the comment quoted at the beginning!

@lindaking894 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for this Jodi. I’ve only in this past several months had a name for my experience. I’ve been married for over 40 years to a very good, bright, eccentric man. I love him. No diagnosis but I believe he is on the scale. He agrees. We’ve had some brief discussions and he recognizes that he has a different kind of brain. I think it’s been a relief for us both to have a considered “label”. I’m working on my own behaviour and on a weekly and sometimes daily basis I can be hurt emotionally. I remind myself that his ways are mostly unintentional. I acknowledge to him now that his level of discomfort is real for him. He can come across as self centred but now I realize he’s anxious, uncomfortable, physically in discomfort in many environments. A work in progress but he and we are worth it. I have had to make a life for myself over our whole relationship or I would have “perished”. Not his fault but having a name for it all has been a huge help. I try now to communicate clearly and this is a learning process too. I’m an emotionally intelligent person, my husband is not so much. He’s a good person. He’s very bright and intellectual. Very capable so my emotionality at times he doesn’t understand and he knows too, intellectually that he benefits from that just as I benefit from his resourcefulness.

@JodiCarlton 7 ай бұрын

so many people are fearful of the "labels," but really it's a framework to help us understand ourselves and one another. It sounds like you and your husband are both making an effort and that is so important! Just today on a support group call, 2 different autistic men became tearful in describing exactly what you's said about your husband feeling anxious, uncomfortable, and in physical discomfort - they expressed feeling shame about this and their other difficulties. It's so helpful when each partner is able to acknowledge and recognize that the other partner is having a legitimate experience that is so different from their own.

@thebirima91 4 ай бұрын

My wife is not interested in anything listening or reading or talking about this subject. Yet she continues acting or I should say lack of, the same way until the point I feel I have to disengage totally out of selfprotection. In my belief, it is and feels like abuse.

@SoulevolvePsychic 11 күн бұрын

Just because someone doesn't intend to be abusive, doesn't mean it doesn't land as feeling abusive to the person on the receiving end. I was in a relationship with a person with high functioning autism and sometimes his verbal lashings out when having a meltdown would feel abusive. I didn't feel seen or really heard because everything seemed to be about their perspective and their needs. I ended up just not even bothering to seek to get situations resolved, or try and be heard because it would all then land on how I was being a bad person, or being the one to blame for everything. You end up just not bothering and then the rot sets in, and for me it did.

@JodiCarlton 8 сағат бұрын

Yes I totally agree with you! For this reason I teach autistic individuals how impact matters regardless of their intent and even when it doesn’t make sense to them. Many can learn to have cognitive empathy or at least to recognize that a partner’s experience is valid for them albeit very different from their own. What I do not want though is to label these individuals as “abusive” because this term carries weight about a person’s character and integrity. Abusers don’t care if they do harm and frequently do harm intentionally. That is not the case for autistics who genuinely don’t intend harm and are confused by accusations of abuse. There ARE autistic abusers who do intend harm or don’t care if they cause harm - these people don’t need to be lumped into the same category.

@inadifferentdimension1774 5 ай бұрын

Everyone makes mistakes. However, once one party tells the other that the behavior is harmful, then there’s no excuse. Then it is abuse.

@JodiCarlton 5 ай бұрын

I agree. Once there is awareness that harm is being done, if the pattern continues then it is a choice to do harm. The caveat there is capacity - if someone is not capable of changing a behavior because of neurological or perceptual differences, then it’s not abuse (ex. Being alexithymic and therefore not intuitively aware of a partner’s emotions; forgetting to follow through at times due to sensory and cognitive overload; having a meltdown from brain overwhelm)

@ViagensGringa 4 ай бұрын

@@JodiCarlton heart breaking for both sides

@marjol3in 2 ай бұрын

@@JodiCarltonI disagree. They don't have to understand our boundaries in order to accept them. My Aspie friend kept on overstepping my boundaries. I've told him, he couldn't understand. He made fun of my boundaries (gaslighing) so I kicked him to the curb. He had some very nasty narcissistic traits as well. I don't accept abuse, wether or not it is intentional or not. I have complex trauma and I need to have SAFE people in my life. He clearly wasn't.

@NeurodiverJENNt 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for clarifying this Jodi. EXCELLENT video. I agree with your definition of abuse. I feel for the women who have been hurt in relationships with inflexible men. It's hard to distinguish bad human behavior and autism, but there IS a difference. NTs and NDs are both capable of abuse, and we don't lump all NTs or all NDs together as abusive. A lot of the traits of autism can seem monotropic and selfish that are true traits of autism. Like, need for routine, behaviors that seem like OCD and perfectionism that they just can't seem to overcome (the meticulousness she describes), the appearance of lack of empathy, etc. The lack of empathy is false. We know that autistics might have trouble recognizing the emotions of others, but do experience empathy once it's explained to them. They can have a lot of good traits too like dedication, honesty, and loyalty for example. It can be difficult to distinguish bad human behavior from autistic traits of inflexibility and what seems like selfishness, but there is a distinction. Autistics are perfectly capable of autonomy, self-awareness, and improvement. My husband and I give and take where we can. There are certain elements of my autism that are too difficult to overcome, but areas where I can use my autistic traits of "acts of service" to show I love him, or being flexible where I can be etc.

@JodiCarlton 7 ай бұрын

thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences with all of this. Agreed, agreed, agreed!!

@ellaboobella8770 Ай бұрын

Would you agree that we feel empathy on a very deep level, but explaining that to someone who needs the validation of that explanation often falls short? That's how I see it anyway. I won't speak for other autistic people, but in my case I've been shattered and shut down, crushed sometimes by empathy I feel for a person, or even an animal. Sometimes I have trouble trying to convey that empathy to someone who is looking for that comfort. I understand, and I feel it, and I even want to fix it.. but don't know how to convey that information, and my attempts to try and 'fix' whatever it is, to 'help' often backfires on me. Over my life I've found that keeping my mouth shut most of the time has the least negative effects, even if I really want to console or help them.

@autisticautumn7379 3 ай бұрын

I have been on the end of so much abuse just because I found others expectations to hard in the sense that they demanded me to act like a NT person.I had to explain how such things a sensory overload would make it difficult for me to do things .

@JodiCarlton 3 ай бұрын

Neurotypicals often believe that the way their brains work is what makes sense and is how an autistic should try to be - but really that’s like expecting a tall person to be shorter and to fit into tiny spaces better. It’s just not possible. Respecting differences and finding the middle ground is the way to healthy connections and relationships. Set boundaries with people who want you to be different than who you are. Do your part to find a compromise when possible. You don’t deserve be badgered or belittled for who you are.

@susanhornbuckle9328 7 ай бұрын

Thank you! Such a great explanation.

@JodiCarlton 7 ай бұрын

You're very welcome!

@silverriver7866 6 ай бұрын

My Saint Bernard didn’t mean to bite my whole face and leave teeth marks in my forehead and chin, but he did. I am weary of being married to a St Bernard who is not capable of the insight necessary not to bite me.

@JodiCarlton 6 ай бұрын

I understand how you feel and this is a powerful analogy that you've shared. Safety is one of our most basic needs as a human being, ahead of connection, intimacy, and love. If leaving the marriage is not something you want to do (or can do), then focus on your safety - if he is not capable of being insightful, then it's really important that you recognize his inability.- no matter how much you want him to change, if he's not wired to be different, or if he doesn't want or care to learn about his deficits, then he's not going to improve. Grieve it (you may need help with this with a therapist or coach like me), and then assess the life and relationship you actually have (versus the one you wanted) for what you can do to be safe and even fulfilled in some ways. It's easier said than done, and is a painful reality for you and many others like yourself.

@thebirima91 4 ай бұрын

The answer to my question and exactly what I am trying to accomplish. Let her go which is difficult living in one house and 3 children.@@JodiCarlton

@Murlocky82 3 ай бұрын

Your analogy doesn't make sense. 1. Based on your comment, you're trying to compare a human to an animal 2. A dog is a different species than a human 3. Why did your dog bite you? What did you do to get bit? 4. Dogs are a whole nother species than a human. 5. I train dogs and they have their own personalities. 6. Don't try to attribute dog behavior into human behavior. It's not the same. 7. Your own dog will only bite you if you fail to recognize there agitation. 8. Dogs have their own language and it's up to you to be able to recognize or be able to interpret how they feel. 9. It's very rare that your own dog is going to bite you unless you failed to respect their boundaries or how they feel. 10. Trying to compare your dog biting you to human behavior is ignorant

@silverriver7866 3 ай бұрын

@@Murlocky82 You are missing the point. The point is that even if the behavior is accidental or unintentional, it still hurts.

@debbiecam8191 3 ай бұрын

Living with an Aspergers husband is so draining and you are on your own. Loose yourself into there world. Abuse with no remorse.

@JodiCarlton 3 ай бұрын

Hi Debbie. You are not alone in how you feel and what you have experienced. Neurodiverse partnerships can be so confusing, painful, and draining when basic expectations and preferences are so very different for each of you. Each relationship is different, though. Abuse or lack of remorse is not inherently a characteristic of autism or neurodiverse relationships. Some people struggle more than others with theory of mind (cognitive empathy) which is the ability to understand the perspective of others. Sometimes a neurotypical partner will have difficult with this as much as, or more, than an autistic partner. In your own relationship. I encourage you to closely evaluate your own relationship to determine what choices you have to improve your own quality of life - you might find my latest podcast series helpful: kzfaq.info/sun/PLSyXJdjUav7pSwpq7nmSdEQZMwiI3eqHR

@Okamiobidala 19 күн бұрын

I am not so sure that my story fits with what you've said. My step dad when I was young was undiagnosed asperger's at the time and he used to look through the key hole when I was getting changed, until I caught him. After that he refused to speak to me for weeks, which made me so upset and angry that I had to leave the house until he'd be in bed, then come home and spend time with my mum. He also had a smug look on his face whenever I tried to engage him in conversation or ask him to stop what he was doing. If that's not abuse I don't know what is. I understand that anyone, regardless of whether they are on the spectrum, can abuse others. To say that all people on the spectrum are just misreading the situation or that it's secretly about differences in needs and preferences - is giving some of them a hall pass to destroy others. That man knew what he was doing.

@Okamiobidala 19 күн бұрын

I actually had to stop watching this video half way through in tears because of the trauma.

@JodiCarlton 15 күн бұрын

What your stepfather did was sexual assault and very traumatic for you. No one gets a hall pass for abuse. I’m not at all saying that “all” people on the spectrum are innocent or abuse. What I am saying is that not all autistic individuals are abusive. Abuse is not a trait of autism. It is a trait of human beings. Some abusive people are autistic. Some are not autistic. When people claim that autistics are abusive as a core trait aren’t we actually abusing the millions of autistic people who are in no way whatsoever toxic, dangerous people?

@humanBonsai 7 ай бұрын

There are some very prejudiced opinions around this topic. You cannot generalise from personal experience. That is the faulty reasoning that lies behind all forms of prejudice. A group of people in a support group are likely to have similar experiences because they have sought out a support group: that is not a sample you can use to make generalisations about all autistic people. For example: as an Autistic person I have been physically assaulted by non-Autistic people without provocation on numerous occasions (I suspect I present as uncomfortable and that is picked up). I could make an argument that many autistic people report the same. I could find support in the theory of the double empathy problem where evidence shows that Allistic people are as bad at empathising and understanding Autistic people as we are them. I could use all this to confirm a growing bias that non-Autistic people are abusive. That bias might be understandable given my experience, but it would be wrong. That they were non-Autistic seems salient to me, but it is faulty reasoning to conclude that therefore all non-Autistic people are therefore violent. All I can really say is that in my experience I encountered individuals who were physically violent. It would certainly be ethically wrong to communicate my experience on social media as if it were a universal truth of all non-Autistic people. That is the line where bad personal experiences becomes a prejudice.

@JodiCarlton 7 ай бұрын

thank you for sharing your thoughts and agreed on all points!

@ellaboobella8770 Ай бұрын

Thank you for this. It is my experience as well. I've been sexually, physically, and emotionally/psychologically abused since early childhood into adulthood, and all were by non-autistic people. I still have trust issues to this day and still live in fear, even though I'm married to a NT man... who isn't the nicest guy in the world.

@jartisteobscure3992 19 күн бұрын

Yeah...no. I'm sick of all the videos and articles I come across CONSTANTLY defending this behavior just because they "aren't doing it intentionally". Screw that I've been in a relationship with and then married to this BS for 15years not realizing WTH was going on until I really started to study this phenomenon independently. I don't give up easy and have a ton of empathy by nature but this is ACCUMULATIVE and it's killing me, which is even less acceptable now because now we have a beautiful child who deserves to grow up in a HEALTHY environment. Planing my exit for our safety. A.S. CAN be ASSholes too.

@JodiCarlton 12 күн бұрын

Hello, and I'm so glad you shared what you're experiencing. Yes, autistics can be assholes - that's a human problem and autistics do NOT get a "pass" for being abusive. I want to clarify that I am not suggesting that unintentionally harmful behavior is okay. It is important for autistic individuals to self-reflect and gain insight into their own behavior to determine if change is possible - and then to take efforts to make changes. Sometimes an autistic person cannot self-reflect effectively or cannot make changes (these are executive functions of the brain). Sometimes change is not possible for reasons related to an autistic person's neurological wiring, sensory processing, and nervous system activation. This is not abuse, but is a dysfunction of the brain (neurodivergent individuals have varying degrees of disability with executive functions). It is important for an autistic individual to be honest about their own capacity and ability to make changes - saying "I can't do that," isn't abusive if it's quite simply the honest truth. It is actually abusive to label someone who has a cognitive impairment as "abusive" when their impairment is the source of harm. That does NOT mean that the behavior isn't destructive and causing serious harm - a non-autistic partner's wellbeing and quality of life matters too! If it is behavior that cannot be changed, and it is causing harm, a partner who is being harmed has to decide if they have a dealbreaker or if the harm can be tolerated long-term without significant impact to overall quality of life. Sometimes no matter how much we want to be in a relationship, it is misaligned if one or both partner's are significantly harmed and change is not likely or not possible due to neurological limitations.

@ahiliasinghmoralesmswrsw6760 Ай бұрын

Abuse may not be a trait of autism, but the amount of nt women married to an asd spouse I’ve seen with many chronic health concerns, anxiety depression ptsd and complex ptsd. They may not mean mean it but the impacts remain the same. This video was hard to watch as a therapist

@j.b.9260 7 ай бұрын

Have you ever considered making a video on big age-gap relationships between Aspies and NTs?

@JodiCarlton 7 ай бұрын

Hello and thank you for your question. Large age gaps is not something I’ve come across in neurodiverse relationships any more than neurotypical relationships. So it’s not something I’ve considered addressing. Thanks again for asking!

@sugarbabyluxury 27 күн бұрын

My partner of 12 years is autistic and it is extremely difficult to live with , she becomes ver aggressive over small things that the me and others is a total over reaction, has a strong sense of how in her mind people should behave and act . So spends most her days shouting about of at people for not doing what she thinks is the correct want to do things , this pushes people away. She is very controlling in most situations . This is very difficult , as she speaks for people and butts in constantly . I could go on but it is very hard. She knows she is autistic but believes the world needs to change for her not the other way around

@noconz0727 6 ай бұрын

Neurodiverse person here really struggling to focus on your words with all the flashing words on screen.

@JodiCarlton 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for your feedback. Many neurodivergent individuals prefer captions whereas others like you do not. I will start uploading caption files so these can be turned on and off instead of embedding them in the video. 👍

@ellaboobella8770 Ай бұрын

That first woman's comment was taken from a google search. It's evident that it's not based on fact or even experience. This is sad, so very sad. In a perfect world autistic people wouldn't end up with someone like her, and her partner may not even be autistic. Anyone who knows anything about autism knows that the whole lack of empathy thing is completely wrong, and that autistic people actually feel more empathy than most neurotypical people. The problem isn't a lack of empathy but a lack of knowing exactly when or how to express that to someone who is expecting certain reactions, actions, or behaviors that signal to that neurotypical person that the autistic person feels empathy. Also, when you ask an autistic person if they know how it feels to be in your shoes you're likely not going to hear 'yes, I know what it's like to be in your shoes.' If people were truly honest with themselves, unless you have hade the exact same experience with the exact same circumstances with the exact same life experiences etc etc etc... you're not going to know what it's like exactly for that person. The majority of autistic people take these types of questions etc literally, myself included. Can we feel the emotion that person has? Likely, yes. Can we say we know exactly what they feel? No. it's an issue of being able to explain or describe that feeling to a neurotypical person that is the problem. We feel empathy, and in many cases it's the kind of empathy that can crush you. There are way too many 'autistic terms' being thrown around in that person's comment. She's been on a google search and engaging in confirmation bias. I'm not saying her experiences aren't true, but her lumping all autistic people under one umbrella is as dangerous as lumping people of any 'group' under one umbrella. If you've met one autistic person you've met one autistic person. and there are scores of neurotypical people who lack empathy.

@dynastyliam1 Ай бұрын

im mild autistic but have klinefelter syndrome. What i will say is that for me, i am emotional and sensitive and will give compliments. I was in a relationship where she used to say i was mentally abusive. unfortunately i have had no help for my issues so i have done a great deal of mimicry, not understanding or knowing if the behaviour i am mimicking is harmful or not... alot of autistics share the same attitude because of growing up trauma and educational trauma/parental. I do often have the internal monologue of " people tend to overuse emotion in the place of logic" to me i would of chosen different pathways to avoid unnecessary outcomes. I also spend alot of time thinking before doing so i get irritated by people who do something rash and then moan about the outcome, this is an example of logic. Autistics have a hard time connecting to their emotions because the framework in society to properly show them how to do it isn't there yet.

@sandibellack6528 7 ай бұрын

My husband is willing and admits that he thinks he is. How can he get a formal diagnosis?

@JodiCarlton 7 ай бұрын

Hi Sandi. Here's a video I did a while back about this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kLyYjZiA17Copps.html

@kotrynavilnele1428 3 ай бұрын

I am autistic and adhd. My husband also has adhd but now I started to suspect that he might be autistic, too. My main problem is that I am very direct in my communication, there is no to little room for interpretations. We have two small children and I often get everwhelmed. So, for example, I say to my husband not to say/ask anything from me at that moment because I have no resources left. Just please be quet for some time. And I think it should be very clear. But it never works. He has his reasons for talking and asking questions. I feel like he feels entiteled to my mental resources even if I have non left. When we talk after, he says that he understands. But come next day and he has his reasons to disregard my needs. And he thinks that if his reasons are good/logic enough, then he is right. But he has his reasons for everything and I have no way in keepping my physical or emotional boundries. Is there anything that could be done so that he would understand that his logic and needs or wishes doesn't go above all? I don't ask for much but sometimes I really need not be touched or spoken to.

@JodiCarlton 3 ай бұрын

It does sound like he isn’t recognizing your spoken boundaries. He could be autistic but what you’re describing could also be ADHD impulsivity and difficulty with inhibiting behavior in the moment. If he feels justified though because of his own logic then that’s more of an autistic trait (poor cognitive empathy/theory of mind). Instead of trying to make home understand what he’s doing that is problematic, I recommend that you focus on option for reinforcing your boundaries. You said you have now way to keep your boundary - take a closer look at that and how you can enforce those boundaries. It’s not about making him do something differently but determine what YOU will do if he doesn’t honor the boundary.

@reneelibby4885 Ай бұрын

I wonder if those who won't make the effort even though they are capable ALSO are on the narcissism spectrum. Is that possible? ASD and NPD?

@ioannafardella3717 4 ай бұрын

I could had written this comment. Of course every person is different, i thibk she talks about the general traits. A NT at a certain point of his life in relationship w a person w adhd for exemple could have a more meaningful relationship than if he had been w another NT. But not a really meaningful. No, ppl don t abuse themselves & others all the time. It s a fact bcs nowdays ppl (the "normal" who are able of introspection, have access to their emotions/thoughts/their self, who have mature defense mechanisms & are social creatures..these ones may hurt someone unpurposefully as we re imperfect humans but the situation will not be hurtful as the person s empathy etc ll lead him to do his best to explain his actions/words..to clarifie the situation. If abuse is the intent to harm..it may be but it doesn t matter in the sense that the person ll be harmed weither it was intended or not. A NT child raised by an asd mother ll feel neglected or something.

@chrismaxwell1624 7 ай бұрын

A lot typical people are are not capable of insights into the behaviors and pattern that self destructive and harm others in relationships. I don't think that's autistic thing only. This is true of all people. Some people are more self aware and have insight into their own behaviors and others are blind to it. This applies to all people not just autistic people. So saying relationships with Autistic people are toxic or abusive because one attended a support group with other of similar experience is flawed. That could easily be the same as thinking people with blue eyes are toxic and abusive because you found support group of people that had abusive relationships with people with blue eyes. What more is if you go looking for specifics like that you will find it. What more is abuse is more likely to happen to autistic person from what I read.

@JodiCarlton 7 ай бұрын

Agreed on all of this, Chris! Thanks for your perspective and contributions here on my channel. :)

@threestans9096 7 ай бұрын

one minute in and dang bro, we/they arent sociopaths.. that quote forgets behavior analysis requires intention.

@threestans9096 7 ай бұрын

curious about the quote about cassandra syndrome. id love to know the parents of the autistic person. was there 1, two, none, only mom, only dad…?

@JodiCarlton 7 ай бұрын

I don't have any additional information about this individual or her partner - it was a comment here on my KZfaq channel.

@reneelibby4885 Ай бұрын

Thank you. If someone is a narcissist people understand the toxicity and don't hesitate to call out abuse. Autism? Oh you should just be understanding. NO. they have to work at a relationship as well. Is it work? I'm sure it is. I've had to adjust to them. That's work too and I have mental health issues as well. It's not an excuse. And is the harm intentional? Maybe not, but here's the problem- once you TELL them how you feel and they laugh at it or disregard it? Yes. abusive.

@Isaiah556 Ай бұрын

I was tryna get close to a guy it took me only a couple interactions with him to understand something was happening that i was missin hes a great man very sweet then hes got another side that seems to dominate because i realized last week hes tryna get into a pattern or something hes just crossed boundaries that i wouldn't let another cross and his lack of accountability for his bs is really the problem i can work with a mf thats gonna keep it 100 he is very insucre and he is a sexy mf lol the last thing i told him was this It aint nothin wrong with u but if u dont believe that there is nothin i can do we only were seeing eachother off and on for about 3 mo i did try tho i hope he finds someone more his pace he deserves that❤

@MomandBuggs 7 ай бұрын

I have noticed a tendency towards physical violence in autistic men and women. I’ve often wondered if autistic men are at a higher likelihood to commit DV. Especially ones that look neurotypical. I think they can’t understand or they want things a certain way and lash out when things don’t go there way. I think communication problems play a role also. I also wonder what percentage of autistic people have been a victim of DV. I’ve noticed people on the spectrum tend have antisocial personality disordered people as friends and significant others. I think both not being neurotypical bonds them. Also they have trouble seeing danger. What is your opinion about this?

@chrismaxwell1624 7 ай бұрын

I've read more autistic people are more likely to end up in victims of DV than the other way around. As well Autistic people are represented in the criminal justice system. I was abused as kid for being autistic. If I was caught stimming my hand the teach crack my hands with a yard stick. If bounced in my desk the yard stick again. What this taught me was it I was to accept physical violence as normal. So in relationship my wife when she would hit me or throw things at me that was completely normal. So I'd let her hit me and throw things at me. I never set boundary and I was taught to hit for who I am is what NT do.

@MomandBuggs 7 ай бұрын

Sorry about the abuse you went through. I hope you are okay. Did your parents confront the teacher? Are you out of that DV situation? @@chrismaxwell1624

@JodiCarlton 7 ай бұрын

The research currently shows that autistic individuals are more likely to be victims of abuse than to be perpetrators. Here is one such study: www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2018.00203/full Other research shows that violent autistic individuals are more likely to have other diagnoses including substance abuse and personality disorders (i.e. anti-social, narcissism). "7.3% of individuals with ASD were convicted of violent offenses. They noted that risk factors for violent offending included older age, male gender, a diagnosis of AS (as opposed to autistic disorder), and comorbid psychotic, substance use, and personality disorders. They commented that violent individuals with ASD had the same sociodemographic and comorbidity features as violent persons without ASD." www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4710161/#:~:text=They%20found%20that%207.3%25%20of,substance%20use%2C%20and%20personality%20disorders. In my opinion, it is these other disorders that are at the root of violence more than autism. Autism may contribute to a person's inability to regulate behavioral impulses in a moment of rage, but not strategic and calculated violence.

@JodiCarlton 7 ай бұрын

And thank you for this very important question!

@MomandBuggs 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for responding. Thanks for the studies your response brought more clarification to this subject for me. I agree with your answer that there are other diagnoses at play with physically violent individuals with or without autisim. Yes when individuals with autisim act out physically it is more impulse than calculated. I have seen them even hurt themselves or destroy their own property in a moment of rage or fustration. Can they be taught to be less impulsive and reactive?@@JodiCarlton

@veronicalagor4771 4 ай бұрын

M’am, have you ever been in a long term relationship with a man on the spectrum? Have you read the experiences of women who have? Sure, one story is just a story. But it’s incredibly invalidating to people whose lives have been sucked dry after years of emotional abuse trying to love these people who repeatedly hurt us time and time again despite verbalizing how it hurts us. How is that not abuse!?

@marjol3in 2 ай бұрын

Good point

@ellaboobella8770 Ай бұрын

If you've met one autistic person you've met one autistic person. I was sexually, physically, mentally and emotionally abused by non-autistic people from very early childhood into adulthood. So does that make all non-autistic people child molesters, rapists, or abusers? You had one experience with one autistic person, and now you lump "These people" together. So am I to think, then, based on your take of things, that you are also an abuser, rapist, etc because you're not autistic? Autistic people are neither angels or demons, and like non-autistic people, who are neither angels nor demons, shouldn't be judged by the actions of a few.

@samuelmedina-conchi8757 6 ай бұрын

It is annoying how the physical act or the person who desires the physical act are always expected to compromise. Rarely is it said (out loud) that the both partner need to compromise. You cant force people to have sex but we can force people to give up sex? It doesnt matter if the sex desiring person is suffering mentally and emotionally.

@JodiCarlton 6 ай бұрын

Yes, we can expect people to give up sex, and to my knowledge, no one has ever died from not having sex. You may struggle with disappointment, frustration, anger, and a lot of other emotions as a result of decreased sex with a partner, so get to a therapist who can help you process your feelings. However, no person is ever entitled to to another person's body, and no partner should ever be expected to "compromise" by giving access to their body. Sex can be a wonderful, intimate, experience for partners to share, but it can also be painful and distressing for many reasons - it is not a reasonable compromise to expect a partner to experience pain or distress. There are many, many, many variables that contribute to sexual desire, including physical, emotional, and psychological safety. Additionally, the body may also experience extreme discomfort related to sensory processing, hormonal changes, stress, fatigue, and so much more. If your partner "compromises" to provide sex to you without feeling sexual desire themselves (for whatever reason), then you are essentially using their body to masturbate - which is a bit disturbing don't you think? Instead of focusing on not getting the sex that you want, take some time to understand why your partner is uncomfortable with sex or has a decreased sex drive.

@user-ub3eg9rv5b 6 ай бұрын

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@TheMCGibson 18 күн бұрын

What a disgusting comment that woman made. We as autists have much better theory of minds about allistic individuals then allistics do for autistic individuals. I am unintentionally gaslight DAILY in my interactions with allistics. The difference is no one believes when we speak out

@JodiCarlton 15 күн бұрын

I agree about the disgusting comment but I don’t agree that autistics have better theory of mind than allistics. I think this varies by individual. Allistics definitely struggle to understand the mind and world of autistics but in my experience allistics are more capable of recognizing that an autistics truly has a different perspective - it’s a real thing - whereas many autistics don’t recognize that the a different perspective is possible.