Do You Need A Full Face Helmet For Mountain Biking? | Full Face Vs Half Shell MTB Helmets

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Global Mountain Bike Network

3 жыл бұрын

Do you need a full face helmet? In this video we'll talk you through the advantages and disadvantages of the two different types of MTB helmet: trail, or open face, helmets and full face helmets to help you decide which is the best for you and your riding.
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@gmbn
@gmbn 3 жыл бұрын
What sort of helmet do you wear?
@handoekjes
@handoekjes 3 жыл бұрын
bell super air r! but one question about modular helmets, are they worth it in your opinion?
@chrisridesbicycles
@chrisridesbicycles 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly as Neil said: Fullface when there is a lift or I try something outside of my comfort zone. Normal helmet for anything else. Can you please kick your sponsor POC in the a..? They don‘t even answer to their contact form. I just want to know where I can buy new pads for my Tectal.
@feedusafetus
@feedusafetus 3 жыл бұрын
@@arcadepiano Sounds boring, but I'm probably a dumb inferior person.
@-HRMNZR-
@-HRMNZR- 3 жыл бұрын
I have one of those with a replaceable chin piece. I’m so comfortable with it because when I ride something new, I alway have the choice of the level of protection 👌🏼 But I think this will never be safe enough for a pike park etc. so therefore I have a rampage. But I would never climb with this on 😄
@xx-----------xx873
@xx-----------xx873 3 жыл бұрын
@@arcadepiano If you're going to be trolling, at least make it convincing.
@deuce9624
@deuce9624 3 жыл бұрын
The price of a full face helmet is way less than dental reconstruction or facial reconstruction
@nicon2097
@nicon2097 3 жыл бұрын
good point
@Aliencreep369
@Aliencreep369 3 жыл бұрын
Depend of the inssurance couverage
@keaton4054
@keaton4054 3 жыл бұрын
I don't need to pay for that. We have the nhs for that
@collincovington9209
@collincovington9209 3 жыл бұрын
My cheek plastic surgery from my crash was $6k. It would've been $50k for the plastic surgery without insurance.
@fergusoh5092
@fergusoh5092 3 жыл бұрын
@@keaton4054 the NHS doesn't cover cosmetic surgery
@matt_l.u
@matt_l.u 3 жыл бұрын
I wore a full face helmet on my first race which was June 27th, i crashed on practice and i must say, you dont need a full face until you crash and realize you actually need one.
@ickypowwow6635
@ickypowwow6635 2 жыл бұрын
genuine question. what was the situation where it came into use? did you actually hit the chin strap of the helmet into the ground?
@3RaccoonsInATank
@3RaccoonsInATank 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, recently had a bad crash and got a concussion ( due to the poor division to ware a Walmart helmet on jumps). Decided it might be a good time to invest in a full face.
@tanvirhoque1307
@tanvirhoque1307 Жыл бұрын
I crashed today on normal road. Cut my jaw and now looking for full face to wear :D
@UnjustifiedRecs
@UnjustifiedRecs 3 жыл бұрын
All I know is I've smashed the jaw piece off a helmet of mine years ago, if I didn't have a full face I'd probably have no jaw..... Sure they can be impractical and hot but I'll never not wear one.
@shemshem9998
@shemshem9998 3 жыл бұрын
yep, ive done the same, my chin seems to be like a magnet to the gound, i live int he desert where the coldest it gets is 20 degrees C and goes up to 40, and most of the time you see me riding a full face (but i do have a break away jaw and i use it plenty). but any experenced rider knows, 9/10 times you end up crashing face first into the ground, i could not live (or i would not be alive) without my full face
@calebchancey5127
@calebchancey5127 2 жыл бұрын
Not troy lee I think imma do a review in next days of d4 composite tld
@natashadillon7362
@natashadillon7362 2 жыл бұрын
If I’m a beginner struggling on green trails😂. Is a full face worth it.
@UnjustifiedRecs
@UnjustifiedRecs 2 жыл бұрын
@@natashadillon7362 if you're only doing real basic stuff and not going fast then probably not, I have a 'normal' helmet for if I'm ever doing tame stuff with my Mrs or just riding down the canal. Full faces aren't comfy in the heat but as I said, it could very easily save your face if something were to go awry
@natashadillon7362
@natashadillon7362 2 жыл бұрын
@@UnjustifiedRecs thanks man I am doing really basic stuff right now I’ll definitely buy a full face when I start trying some roughy stuff
@douwe3300
@douwe3300 3 жыл бұрын
Full face whenever I ride trails where I can climb on gravel roads. I hang the helmet on my bars while climbing. My girlfriend had a nasty crash which caused her to be hospitalised and lose 70% of her vision in one eye (for life). She definitely would have just walked away with a full face. So yeah, that's why, broken cheekbones suck.
@gregorysucher6987
@gregorysucher6987 2 ай бұрын
I need one of them which have the detachable cheek protector thingy
@evanbarnes9984
@evanbarnes9984 3 жыл бұрын
Broke my ribs in a crash a couple days ago riding hard trail, but my full face saved my head! Absolutely worth having a full face
@R3ddyyg
@R3ddyyg 3 жыл бұрын
Get well soon mate! Your bike prolly wants a revenge on that trail
@rieggy1
@rieggy1 3 жыл бұрын
Same here bro. Still at hospital. Crashed and tore my kidney. Fullface saved my pretty head 😂
@dirkP38448
@dirkP38448 3 жыл бұрын
🙋‍♂️… colarbone and a rib here
@petedc884
@petedc884 3 жыл бұрын
This literally happened to me 6 weeks ago, first time wearing a full face and it saved my face, can’t say the same about 4 of my ribs though haha Full face on gnarly trails for me from now on
@Patricks_Welt
@Patricks_Welt 3 жыл бұрын
Stayed 2 nights in hospital and 2 weeks on the couch after having a big crash in the bike park. My Fox ProFrame needs replacement as it did a perfect job. I ordered an IXS Trigger FF now which fits even better. Really love this helmet already. Never will drive without a ff again, Even on my hometrails. Because this is where I drive faster then on unknown terrain.
@Streamlines
@Streamlines 3 жыл бұрын
Almost lost some teeth at age 14 when I crashed on asphalt with a half shell. Recently got a lot better at biking and with the speeds I go at now, even on a flat trails, I will always choose to wear a full-face. It only takes one rock or even piece of wood in the wrong place at the wrong time, even when going slow.
@JayBirdPhotos
@JayBirdPhotos 3 жыл бұрын
I always get a funny look or two on my local trails for wearing my Bell Super Air R full face. While the trails aren't more than blue rated there are some parts full of rocks. Just this past weekend I was very happy to have had a full face on as I had a sudden stop of my front wheel and went OTB at a relatively decent speed. My chin guard saved my face as I landed on the left side of my head but facing down a bit. Dirt and rocks came flying into the helmet and even deep scratched my goggles on the left side. Had I not been wearing a full face those deep scratches would have been my face. I'm 53 years old and have been mountain biking since I was 18. Haven't ridden anything besides full face since I got my Super 2R when it first came out. The Super Air R has been a great helmet for me and I probably won't ever ride a regular helmet again.
@geeves21312
@geeves21312 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you're not influenced by the funny looks. Do what makes you comfortable, particularly when it comes to safety.
@chiefsilverback
@chiefsilverback 3 жыл бұрын
I just started thinking about this in the last few days. I crashed recently on my gravel bike, OTB and fractured my hand, but going back to the crash site my face got perilously close to a rock! Most of my MTB riding is New England single track, lots of ups and down, but all on roots and rocks and you really can't control where you land if you do have an off, someone in my riding group got hung up at the top of a technical climb recently and ended backwards rolling down the climb, bike and all. I have a Super 3R, but only use the chin bar at the downhill park although I'm wondering if I shouldn't use it more often, especially as my confidence increases and speed goes up!?!?!
@JayBirdPhotos
@JayBirdPhotos 3 жыл бұрын
@@chiefsilverback I'm out for a few weeks as well as I did my wrist in on the crash. For me the decision to wear it has nothing to do with the speed and more to do with the terrain. For the crash I described I wasn't moving very fast. My front tire took a bad hop crossing a tiny wood feature. Dropped the front wheel into a spot between the rocks and over I went leaving the bike behind. If I'm riding strictly paved paths or crushed rock fire road ill take the chin off otherwise it stays on.
@chiefsilverback
@chiefsilverback 3 жыл бұрын
@@JayBirdPhotos I was just looking at the Kali Invader, looks like a well ventilated one piece full face, with the added bonus of free crash replacement. On a related topic I'm assuming you ride with pads, which do you like?
@JayBirdPhotos
@JayBirdPhotos 3 жыл бұрын
@@chiefsilverback yes I normally ride with pads. I use gform shorts, knee and shirt. Would you believe though that the one time I didn't wear the knee and top was the one time I should have been. Scraped my left shoulder and bruised my arm. That will teach me .....
@alephabebe692
@alephabebe692 3 жыл бұрын
I wear a full face when I’m riding free ride, and a half shell when I’m riding calmer trails
@panslimak13
@panslimak13 3 жыл бұрын
This. Same goes for pads. I just kit up for what I ride.
@siddhantmishra3598
@siddhantmishra3598 3 жыл бұрын
I freeride everything so 😂
@tomasdoricak6475
@tomasdoricak6475 3 жыл бұрын
@Calvin Dachs 🦡 why wouldn't you?
@tomasdoricak6475
@tomasdoricak6475 3 жыл бұрын
@Calvin Dachs 🦡 um I have downhill bike and I ride easy trails on it too. It's about your preference 🙂
@mybadvideos
@mybadvideos 3 жыл бұрын
I like this answer. When I'm at a park and at the edge of my ability level or going fast or getting tired, it's on. On tamer stuff that I'm confident on I go back and forth. I also rarely land on my head riding, my crashes generally land me sideways or arms first. If it's wet/muddy/slick I'm more likely to keep the FF on all day, especially if it's not hot out.
@jessicabelmontegandolfo119
@jessicabelmontegandolfo119 3 жыл бұрын
I wear braces and have an overbite that I'm going to have surgery for so I always use full face for anything that is not a gravel ride or an old train track trail. I'm also really beginner and scared and it gives me an extra boost of confidence
@colbywillard
@colbywillard 3 жыл бұрын
Full time full face here, my first ever trip to the mountain ended with a broken collarbone and a smashed half shell.
@gwerkcules2752
@gwerkcules2752 3 жыл бұрын
I always felt kinda silly wearing my full face for regular riding as well as jumps because it's the only one I have, though recently I had a crash and was very thankful I was wearing it...
@keithtelesmanich2058
@keithtelesmanich2058 Жыл бұрын
full face also looks cooler than an open face
@underbikedoverconfident1142
@underbikedoverconfident1142 3 жыл бұрын
Reporting live from Schladming, Austria. I can confirm its full face and downhill bikes as far as the eyes can see and nobody looks overbiked or over protected 😜
@MTBDennis
@MTBDennis 3 жыл бұрын
Anywhere the trail points down more than up, I wear a full face. Half shell for more pedaly calmer trails.
@richardfarmery5401
@richardfarmery5401 3 жыл бұрын
I never felt the need for a full face until I smashed my orbital bone & ripped off my eyeleid. Now obviouslly I won't ride without one.
@LCBeesley
@LCBeesley 3 жыл бұрын
why do these videos come out exactly when I need them xD
@cl4589
@cl4589 3 жыл бұрын
I literally just searched this for curiosity and there it was, a gmbn video about helmets xD
@nifra3138
@nifra3138 3 жыл бұрын
They always do
@agrsk8r
@agrsk8r 3 жыл бұрын
If I'm on a trail, I'm wearing a full face. The only exception to this rule is if it's super hot out (95F+) and the danger of heat exhaustion is higher than a crash. On those hot days, I'm taking it easy and skipping the dangerous features so I really don't need the full face.
@ridesafealways4929
@ridesafealways4929 3 жыл бұрын
Always full face, either city commuting or trails. I only have an enduro bike so the looks fit anyway. 😂
@aivarh
@aivarh 3 жыл бұрын
IXS Trigger is Full Face but it is so well ventilated that it doesn't feel like one, love mine
@nickstersss
@nickstersss 2 жыл бұрын
i went thru a plethora of research and ended up on that too!
@crist0000s
@crist0000s 3 жыл бұрын
Dudes! Its like you've read my mind! Just arrived at home and on the way was thinking about this. Matrix
@Leo_Inclan
@Leo_Inclan 3 жыл бұрын
Penguin dove into the bushes a few years ago, when I was just starting to ride. Got a scar on my upper lip which splits my mustache in half. My face will look funny forever. Never riding any risky terrain in an open face helmet again. I do wear a detachable helmet most of the time (Bell super) and I love it to death. Being able to remove the chin bar for the climb makes a world of difference.
@josipkasalo70
@josipkasalo70 3 жыл бұрын
So, I feel more comfortable with "normal" helmet going uphill, but hoping on trails, fullface makes me more confident.
@hardtailgang
@hardtailgang 3 жыл бұрын
I run a Fox Proframe fullface and it's ventilated enough that it feels like an open face helmet. I wear it on every ride no matter how mellow and don't even take it off when stopping for a breather. I believe the TLD Stage is a very similar design and there might be a few others.
@growlith6969
@growlith6969 10 ай бұрын
Same. Why buy less when you can have all the protection and it takes nothing away?
@kendallholton6729
@kendallholton6729 3 жыл бұрын
Hospital worker from bentonville, AR (massive mountain bike area). People come in needing facial reconstruction after crashing IN full faces on not that insane stuff. Really underrated! I cant imagine if they didnt have that extra protection!!!
@RyanAlexanderBloom
@RyanAlexanderBloom 3 жыл бұрын
Think about the likelihood of your face meeting the ground or another immovable obstacle. If this is higher than your accepted threshold for risk, full face. I don’t wear one but I don’t really do jumping, I don’t ride DH, and I actually (knock on wood) crash pretty rarely. If I was sending it or primarily riding lift-served terrain or racing… yeah I’d very much reassess.
@mattd5136
@mattd5136 3 жыл бұрын
With the caveat that wearing a helmet changes the wearers unconscious risk analysis profile. The more protection you wear, the more risks you feel safe to take.
@neilmcdonnell2964
@neilmcdonnell2964 3 жыл бұрын
Got my warning. Day of tackling Black Trails took the homeward Blue back to the trail centre, ended up hitting a tree with my jaw. Got away with a fractured cheek. Teeth were checked by dentist and all good. So from now I wear a full face. I'll take jaw off for climbs but goes back on for any sort of decent, no matter the level.
@DJ25centHotWings
@DJ25centHotWings 3 жыл бұрын
When I was still riding DH, and doing freeride stuff in the early 2000s, I was always wearing full face helmets. These days, due to age and previous injuries, I ride flowy trails, and have compromised with a Giro Tyrant.
@r3dh34d32
@r3dh34d32 3 жыл бұрын
Budget limitations force me to only have one helmet at the moment and I immediately went for a full face. Protection is most important, comfort and breathability are factors for rich people.
@josephmaxamillion9791
@josephmaxamillion9791 Жыл бұрын
good choice
@kaneda7368
@kaneda7368 8 ай бұрын
For rich people??? As if half-shells are more expensive than full face? I got a half shell cuz I'm broke not because I wanna breathe more lmao wtf.
@jorgeluisflores5980
@jorgeluisflores5980 3 жыл бұрын
my IXS Trigger FF weight 595grams! And it is super breathable. I rarely wear half shells now, because the added protection comes with virtually no penalities. I've seen half shells that weight just as much as this full face. I highly recommend it.
@spuddo123
@spuddo123 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a convertible full face, but honestly the half shell is more practical fot 80% of my rides, but for that last 20% i wouldn't ride it without a full face
@wildearpsadventures4991
@wildearpsadventures4991 3 жыл бұрын
Another factor to add into you decision is time on the bike. A couple years ago I rode "the whole enchilada" in Moab. I'm not a fast climber, so my time was around 3.5 hrs. I chose to wear my Giro Switchblade for that ride, which is lighter then most FF helmets. Near the end of the ride the helmet was getting quite heavy and began to get annoying. Now I didn't know the trail so I was playing it safe by wearing it, but next time definitely going half she'll. Side note it was about hour 2 where I started to notice it wearing on me. As always the choice and decision process is yours and only you can decide what's best for you.
@TheTree1968
@TheTree1968 3 жыл бұрын
I have a bell super3 with detachable chin bar. Best of both worlds and I always use the full face option at trail centres etc. Better to “have it and not need it than need it and not have it” is my thought on it.
@gilbertlemm8730
@gilbertlemm8730 3 жыл бұрын
Full Face ist a must. A friend of mine broke his nose while riding dirtjump with me. It wasnt Even a big crash, he just hittet some roots in a Bad angle with his Face.
@johnmana4413
@johnmana4413 3 жыл бұрын
Full face ALWAYS. Mellow XC , Fast downhill - all of it. Play adult games and win adult prizes.
@davidgardner1303
@davidgardner1303 3 жыл бұрын
Gone for the best of both with a Super Air R. half lid for most rides and long climbs.. chin bar to strap on when im throwing myself down something more extreme.
@Davmm96
@Davmm96 2 жыл бұрын
For me it's a double win, I also use my MTB gear (helmets,goggles, knee pads) for downhill inline skating/rollerblading. Perfect for climbing in the radiating heat of asphalt and rolling down in relative safety.
@MajChronic
@MajChronic 3 жыл бұрын
I just turned 59. I rode cross country for many years but gave it up 10 yrs ago due to arthritis in ankles, knees and hips/lower back. This spring the gf and I purchased ebikes and I haven't looked back. As my gf is new to riding (she can ride but it's been 45 yrs since her last ride) I wanted her to feel comfortable about riding the local trails. After trying on her Bell Super 3R I caved and purchased one for myself. It's comfortable enough that I've not bothered to remove the chin-bar and it does feel confidence inspiring. The gf passed me on a downhill gravel road this past weekend and told me it was the fastest she's ever been on a bicycle and we must have been doing 30kmph. Didn't have the heart to tell her we were closer to 50kmph but what didn't kill her makes her stronger.
@Mububban23
@Mububban23 3 жыл бұрын
Fox Pro Frame full face is the best vented helmet of any sort (road or MTB) I personally have ever worn. Light, comfortable and breathable. I live in a hot climate and absolutely love it
@growlith6969
@growlith6969 10 ай бұрын
Yup, there is no perfect helmet, and I asked myself the "what if" if I crash and a piece of stick goes right through one of the massive vents in my RS, but reminded myself that you just insure against the most likely and use the most functional equipment you can get, and again, know that nothing is perfect.
@satchmotionrc8202
@satchmotionrc8202 2 жыл бұрын
I have both full face and open face helmets. I definitely wear the full face on the more aggressive rides. The open face is for more day to day riding and leisure rides.
@BlackPenquinn
@BlackPenquinn 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Kali Invader (trail, not a DH helmet) and it breathes so well, there really isn’t any reason to not wear one on the trails I ride most often. Those are super rocky Canadian Shield type trails with a big rock every ten feet and plenty of larger rock features. The trails can be tight with branches etc and I like googles because I just don’t have to worry about stuff hitting my eyes. Honestly, not having my acid sweat in my eyes is worth it alone. Of course both are great for cold winter riding. On mellower XC type trails, I ride an open face with glasses.
@stephenhislop4864
@stephenhislop4864 3 жыл бұрын
As a novelist Rider (EMB) and someone who ploughs through the trials, with no finesse. I use a full face helmet! Over a month ago, I come un-stuck on my Greaser (EB) on the road. Open face helmet, I was lucky. 6 stitches under my jaw and 3 internal.
@onerider808
@onerider808 Жыл бұрын
I use a Troy Lee A2 for easier trails and summer. Recently got a Smith mainline, and after seeing my buddy’s pictures of his helmet dented on top, side, and jaw, I may start wearing it all the time.
@CipoCat6
@CipoCat6 3 жыл бұрын
2:10 Recco is actually a passive reflector, so it doesn't send out a signal so much as it reflects back if someone goes over you with a Recco detector (handheld or it looks like they now have helicopter-mounted units). To send out a signal you need cellular or satellite service and have to activate that yourself or have a smart accelerometer that thinks you just crashed (like my stupid garmin does occasionally when I stop on a ride).
@TheRotundRider
@TheRotundRider 3 жыл бұрын
Got my first full-face for my first trip to a bike park. It was during the PNW heatwave, and despite that heat I never really noticed a problem inside the helmet until I stopped. I felt safe and that gave me confidence to try harder trails than I’ve ever ridden, and allow my bike to leave the ground frequently.
@onerider808
@onerider808 Жыл бұрын
Agree; there’s stuff at the bike park and black/double black trails I wouldn’t ride without a full face helmet.
@danhart2411
@danhart2411 3 жыл бұрын
Have had to many to wrecks and every time I had a full face and so happy I did.
@raynfir638
@raynfir638 3 жыл бұрын
Had a chain break and wrap up my rear hub which resulted in me going over the bars and sliding down gravelly asphalt on my face when I was 12 Full face always since,
@thomasmatthews3704
@thomasmatthews3704 3 жыл бұрын
I had a brain bleed 3.5 years ago. Two brain surgeries and a titanium plate later my balance is still off. So when I ride trails I opt for the extra protection of a full face helmet. It gives me more confidence, plus I want the extra coverage in case of a fall. I use a Bell with the removable chin piece. I use the full face configuration for about 95% of my riding. It offers good ventilation and I can still have a trail helmet for riding around the neighborhood with the family. If I ride lift assisted downhill, I rent a heavier full face helmet.
@TheChipMcDonald
@TheChipMcDonald 3 жыл бұрын
"I don't know if I'm going to fall on the side of my head, but I definitely know I won't fall ony face". Because, nobody *ever* falls on their face, unless they plan to do so, "of course". Everyone that smashes their face wanted to, since they didn't wear a ff?
@levis.9408
@levis.9408 3 жыл бұрын
Luckily, I’ve never had a bad crash or head injury, but seeing others get ragdolled on even the most simple features tells me I need one. I have a full face for dirt bike riding, but I’d like to have a lighter version for mountain biking. I’ve just now started to get serious about mountain biking, and am looking to get into enduro racing.
@KevisSquatchin
@KevisSquatchin 7 ай бұрын
No crash equals Not riding hard enough.
@ddsgardening7437
@ddsgardening7437 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lads for another great video,, I'm in Aust,and the removeable jaw works a treat in our hot weather 🙏🙏
@olivierlessard2670
@olivierlessard2670 3 жыл бұрын
Love the channel guys! Last May I had a huge crash and my Troy Lee Design Stage helmet (full face) save my life. So much so that the helmet cracked at point of impact. If I would have had my open face helmet I would be in bad shape. I would say that if you hesitate between the two, wear the full face. It's better to be hot than have a cracked skull! Cheers !
@calebchancey5127
@calebchancey5127 2 жыл бұрын
I love my D4 composite
@romantiemeyer6277
@romantiemeyer6277 3 жыл бұрын
Full face no matter what, I would rather sweat a little bit then getting my face pushed in
@olliech33bo15
@olliech33bo15 3 жыл бұрын
Fox proframe, never too hot. Max protection. I like my teeth in my mouth.
@NerfGunPro35
@NerfGunPro35 3 жыл бұрын
I'm buying me one
@David-rb3tk
@David-rb3tk 3 жыл бұрын
I have one, too and agree with all your points.
@Mububban23
@Mububban23 3 жыл бұрын
Love my Pro Frame too!
@idunnowhattonamemyself9935
@idunnowhattonamemyself9935 3 жыл бұрын
Bought one for a trip last week. It is amazing dont even notice its a full face
@aaronoconnor606
@aaronoconnor606 3 жыл бұрын
IXS makes a really nice lightweight full face helmet. I have gone through 2 fox proframes I think the IXS one is slightly better protection. It Will probably be my next endro helmet
@pughmtb9628
@pughmtb9628 3 жыл бұрын
I use the MET parachute removal chin guard which suits me I take it off for the climbs and pop it back on for the dissents Never had any issues and it feels solid
3 жыл бұрын
Currently i have an XC bike so i ride open face, but as soon as I build a bike for more trail-oriented riding and i go on steeper more technical trails, i'll go enduro fullface. Just a dumb mistake or a front wheel wash off can make you eat liquids for a year, if you're lucky.
@madformtb2312
@madformtb2312 3 жыл бұрын
I always ride my fox proframe on any trail because it’s just so breathable. I only ever take it off on really hot days (32 degrees Celsius) and its only when climbing
@plainuser48596
@plainuser48596 3 жыл бұрын
On the positive side, I love the music in this video
@mrfrogg46able
@mrfrogg46able 3 жыл бұрын
depending on the terrain. i ride a home built hardtail enduro and i ride it everyday as a commuter/trail/freeride bike. i use an open face helmet. if i ride trail and it is fast and heavy i would use a full face. it is really about environment. if you ride stairs there aren't any trees use an open face. if you ride trail and parks use a fullface.
@barrydworak
@barrydworak 3 жыл бұрын
I got a convertible Bell after going to the hospital, face planting downhill. I have googles and glasses. I mix up what I wear between full and open, glasses and goggles, depending on conditions.
@bartvv1770
@bartvv1770 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Giro switchblade.. its both an open and full face helmet. Its astm 1952 dh certified with or without chinbar...
@tobyehillier
@tobyehillier 3 жыл бұрын
Is it any good? I bought the Bell one they show in the video but I didn't get on with it at all and passed it on....
@bartvv1770
@bartvv1770 3 жыл бұрын
@@tobyehillier i like it yes. Use it for 2 years already. But the helmet without chinbars stays quite "hot" in warmer weather. Thats is something to concider...
@SuperDuke1098
@SuperDuke1098 3 жыл бұрын
The best helmet I have had and saved me a few times.
@jonriordan649
@jonriordan649 3 жыл бұрын
I just keep the chin bar on, it's not that hot
@chrisinstasis7986
@chrisinstasis7986 3 жыл бұрын
I'm now bricking myself and want to wear a full face helmet for my next commute.......
@collincovington9209
@collincovington9209 3 жыл бұрын
Ripped my cheek open on a metal grated wall ride last summer. Plastic surgery and a gnarly face scar later, I always wear a full-face on singletrack. You can always go OTB on your bike on any obstacle and your head is the first thing to propel towards the rocks, trees, roots, dirt, ect.
@ericmountainbiker
@ericmountainbiker 3 жыл бұрын
I ride with a Fox Pro Frame as my only helmet. It works very well in all conditions I don't think I could go back to an open face helmet .
@chiccorocker
@chiccorocker 3 жыл бұрын
It's always full face helmet for me. An open face provides protection to one half of your head only, and nothing at all on the other, which is left completely exposed. And nowadays there are very lightweight and very ventilated full face helmet options, they are not only downhill style. Take the Met parachute for example, it's only 700 grams! That's crazy for a full face and it's very well ventilated as well. Sure not the ideal one for a crazy speed downhill race, a more protective one would be better for that, but pretty much perfect for most scenario except the extreme one.
@justinphillips532
@justinphillips532 3 жыл бұрын
Blake’s monologue was nice advert for POC, other manufacturers of certified safety helmets are available.
@David-rb3tk
@David-rb3tk 3 жыл бұрын
I have both. Trail helmet for the fire roads. Full face for anything else. I am not usually wearing any pads, either on the fire roads. So I have learned to discipline myself not to leave the roads without all the safety gear. All the gear, all the time. always.
@Deuteross
@Deuteross 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative and straightforward (regarding sponsorship) explanation by Don - the Blake's infomercial part felt really odd though.
@nicolasmorey-chaisemartin9795
@nicolasmorey-chaisemartin9795 3 жыл бұрын
I use a detachable chinbar one. So i just put it on when I get into some gnarly stuff or when I want to push. But i still get a lot of air on the climbs. And you can just put the chinbar on your handkebar on the climbs. With the cables on the front it doesn't move too much even on small downhill sections
@gmbn
@gmbn 3 жыл бұрын
Good tip!
@winklertribe5268
@winklertribe5268 3 жыл бұрын
I wear an open face mtb helmet, which is appropriate for most of my riding, but I have been considering a full face for more technical trails… I wish you could’ve presented more info about the convertible helmets
@marknorton3951
@marknorton3951 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Yes you do. IXS Trigger is super light and DH rated. I wear it trail riding in 90F 30C weather, and in the bike park. Just get one. I have broken one. Amongst other serious injuries, at least I could still eat.
@richardconti9212
@richardconti9212 2 жыл бұрын
The full face with removable chin guards are great in my opinion
@nickmassey9104
@nickmassey9104 3 жыл бұрын
Great info .downhill full ,endurance or general puttlng around half face helmet
@creekboi7
@creekboi7 Жыл бұрын
Coming from Karting in FL. I dont think I'll mind the heat from a full face living in CO now :)
@adcashmo
@adcashmo 3 жыл бұрын
Great advice. I think this was a hard video to make. After all you don't want to be the one who said "don't worry it'll be fine"...... we're talking about protecting your head and in my opinion you should get the absolute best helmet you can afford and if you're anywhere where a crash could end up nasty then get a full face every time!
@Nazaxed
@Nazaxed 3 жыл бұрын
Do i need full face helmet in my speed and trails? Probably not. Still i allways wear my Fox Proframe on trails. Lots of rocks and roots and narrow trails so i don't really want to crash face first. Also i have ridden MX and Enduro so i am used to a full face helmets.
@kaiul2967
@kaiul2967 3 жыл бұрын
I got both depending on what kind of ride, how hot it is or how rowdy I plan to get! I've face planted a few times without a full face. Luckily it wasnt bad enough to dislocate my jaw.
@R0BBS
@R0BBS 2 жыл бұрын
Been looking at the O'Neal Backflip for my first full face helmet. I am new to MTB and fortunate to live near Bike Park Wales, but never been! Am planning a trip soon and want a full face helmet even though I'll only be doing Green/Blue trails 👍🏻
@gmbn
@gmbn 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Matthew, It always pays to be as safe as you can when riding a bike park. A full face is a great idea though! Also, it makes you all the more confident so you can fly down those blue runs! Safe Riding! 👍
@R0BBS
@R0BBS 2 жыл бұрын
@@gmbn yes indeed! Thanks for the comment, keep up the great content! 👍🏻
@joshg5244
@joshg5244 10 ай бұрын
I rode motocross where you don't get as up close and personal with rocks and trees. We ditched open face helmets in the 80s. I wear full face when riding mtb. 2:53
@dsdiesel8667
@dsdiesel8667 3 жыл бұрын
I got a Giro turtle shell style, probably more of a roadie helmet. Well I wiped out a week ago and got a concussion, skinned up my face and there was about a 30 minute span where I don’t really remember anything. When I get back on the bike in about 3-4 weeks it’ll be with a full face. I’d rather be safe than sorry and it’s definitely cheaper than a hospital bill, etc.
@nateums
@nateums 3 жыл бұрын
Having recently falling and hitting my face and chipping my tooth… yeahhhh def wearing full face for almost any mtb ride
@jleask2
@jleask2 7 ай бұрын
Just last week face planted on a grade 3 trail that I ride frequently. Knocked myself out and knocked my front two teeth out. I own a full face but I only ever wear on bike parks etc where I have uplift. On this particular day I was wearing an open face helmet and wouldn’t have even considered wearing a full face on this track. Now though I’ve bought a pedal friendly full face and will probably wear it for all future trail/enduro riding.
@jorgechavezlozanocpr
@jorgechavezlozanocpr 3 жыл бұрын
As a biker and reconstructive surgeon and who has had to reconstruct facial fractures of other fellow cyclists, I can say that the use of a fullface helmet is never enough.
@jorgechavezlozanocpr
@jorgechavezlozanocpr 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, fullface helmet is a must. I have had to repair facial fractures in 3 fellow cyclists. When they had their accident none of them wore a fullface helmet
@robanzzz5124
@robanzzz5124 2 жыл бұрын
speaking of smashing full face helmets up reminds me of my crash where i misjudged speed off a drop and went OTB and i essentially flipped and rolled down the hill and took a massive gouge out of the back bottom portion of my full face. if i wasn't wearing that it likely would have been a gash in the spinal area of my lower neck if not a broken neck or something but in the end i got out with just a broken collarbone.
@Penguin-wk7gq
@Penguin-wk7gq 3 жыл бұрын
Love full face
@bennybouken
@bennybouken 3 жыл бұрын
I wear full face when every winter or if its cold outside and on trails. I'll only wear half if ill just ride my way to a nearby destination.
@samb2334
@samb2334 3 жыл бұрын
I run met parachute mcr mips, super good
@Enaresbclimber
@Enaresbclimber 3 жыл бұрын
I just took a bad crash as a result of my boa lace snapping in the middle of a technical section of the trail. It was the one day in 6mo I did not wear my full face on that trail and got 15 stitches on my chin. I don't fall often so this crash was extremely frustrating. my face took 100% of the impact, not a scratch on my lid. I still wear the lid of calmer trails but 100% full face on technical downhill. Never getting boa lace shoes ever again.
@conrod4910
@conrod4910 3 жыл бұрын
Only got sight in one eye and a need to not be off work for weeks, or fully blind 😬 personal choice but I go with full face and goggles on anything off road these days. Just not worth the risk to me
@herymtb
@herymtb Жыл бұрын
since I was a kid I never wore a full-face helmet or had one. Also, I never did downhill so there's that, but I've been on trails that have a downhill part of the trail. so I just think it depends on you, but I don't think there is anything wrong with wearing a full face on the trail however you feel. only one thing is the trail is pretty much all flat and not technical now that's a problem , but you know you do you
@jimsmith4907
@jimsmith4907 2 жыл бұрын
I just got a full face helmet as I'm interested in progressing in downhill Mtb, not sure if it's a bit excessive though. better safe than sorry I guess.
@joaquino812
@joaquino812 3 жыл бұрын
i have a lot of bad experience with full face helmets. I normally dont wear a fullface the most time. But the most crashes i had with a full face. i feel better with a normal helmet even when im sending new jumps and big jumps. i only wear one in the bikepark.
@ARPost-kn2jl
@ARPost-kn2jl 3 жыл бұрын
Ask Fabio Jakobsen if he needs a full face on his road bike..? Modern helmets ( i have a bell air) are just as light and ventilated. So your choice what part of your head you would like to protect..
@mooseko467
@mooseko467 3 жыл бұрын
YES
@karl_okohan
@karl_okohan 3 жыл бұрын
Depending on the case.. the better thing to do is to buy both of them.
@mylesmackey2430
@mylesmackey2430 3 жыл бұрын
Probably half of my riding is climbing but the descents are high consequence and being a new rider, I’ve already had a couple of crashes and got lucky but I quickly picked up a full face. Too much important stuff goin on in that noggin
@plainuser48596
@plainuser48596 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I am not familiar with RECCO system, but you've messed something up in the video about it - "nfc tag that sends your signal to the system, that can track you"... what ? NFC stands for "near field communication", it can not send anything to any remote system. If there is such functionality built in, then it's not the NFC part of it, as video suggest.
@jacksonboyle8069
@jacksonboyle8069 3 жыл бұрын
They are two separate things they did not explain it right in the video
@eduardonunez2946
@eduardonunez2946 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they messed up a little bit that part. Noticed it as well. Those helmets have the NFC Tag so that medics can just scan it and get information about you. The POC helmets have this piece of metal at the back that reflects radar signals sent by some search and rescue equipment (initially used to search for people after avalanches). But this is certainly something that not every search and rescue squads have so you need luck as well.
@ianiscaratti4924
@ianiscaratti4924 3 жыл бұрын
Eduardo Núñez You need luck and a huge massive helicopter with the nfc detector. BTW any phone or gpstracker works as good as a nfc chip...
@ianiscaratti4924
@ianiscaratti4924 3 жыл бұрын
Eduardo Núñez You need luck and a huge massive helicopter with the nfc detector. BTW any phone or gpstracker works as good as a nfc chip...
@johnbaker7984
@johnbaker7984 3 жыл бұрын
I currently have a broken nose from a low speed off....I've now brought a vented trail full face...just as light and breathable as my old half face and visibility isn't affected. Won't ride without it.
@adampickering5820
@adampickering5820 3 жыл бұрын
What did you go for? I’m torn between the fox proframe and the met parachute
@johnbaker7984
@johnbaker7984 3 жыл бұрын
I went for the Kali invader 2.0 SLD
@Boilitinoildoyle
@Boilitinoildoyle Жыл бұрын
I think we are going to see more trail riders wearing the new light weight breathable full face helmet offerings. Your face is sooo exposed when wearing a half shell. Learned this lesson a few days ago
@snickersthingz
@snickersthingz 3 жыл бұрын
POC tectal race for everyday casual stuff and TLD stage for enduro and gravity stuff.
@shemshem9998
@shemshem9998 3 жыл бұрын
my advice, are your riding XC trails up to blue teck trails meant for trail bikes? have an half shell. do you ride black and meybe even double black trails meant for trail bikes? you should at least consider a full face, one which you can take of the jaw with is preferable, but a enduro lid will also be just fine, but steer away from the full on DH lids, those are heavy and just too much (the poc full face shown in the video is one of them, the fox proframe is a good example of a enduro lid and the MET parachute mcr is a perfect example of a helmet with a removeble jaw). ride any kind of enduro, DH, or park? get a full face, but if you tend to stay on the lighter side, one with a removable jaw or a enduro lid will also do, so if you already have one and dont ride the real sketchy and heavy kind of terain too often, just use that one unless you feel you need for that extra protection. but if you ride dificult/more risky terain more often, a full on full face will be worth it.
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