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Hey exil, uneducated comment here, I thought if you had a video sponsor you couldn’t have ads on your actual video? I thought if a company or something was specifically doing a sponsorship and you plug them in the vid then there wouldn’t be KZfaq ads on the video? Or is it normal to have both?

You could make a video on when riot over buffs champions. 8:45 False. AP Galio in patch 7.24 was stronger than the champions you mentioned. They were op, because of their mobility AP Galio would oneshoot you with one spell and one item.

How dare you. Rell's e is a really good ability that I like. The only problem it has is that it has a 3 sec cooldown when you put it on an ally negating basically the reason you need it which is to quickly put it on a diving ally and cast it

I remember bringing her back from the grave with full on-hit items in games where people said they were going to report XD. How short lived that was as 3 months later they reworked here entirely, no attack speed, no tank stats on ult, no move speed buff mid combat, the last ability that was a simple move speed mid combat spell with the role being relinquished to items after combat has already started. Maybe not the golden days, but the days before league was a meta game, that’s what made the meta back then so volatile and competitive, champions maybe designed with one another in mind, item were made for each class of character, not thinking for abilities or scaling, just items that benefited certain classes, now the game is truly meta, you can’t make the items do something their not meant to do, like eve with titanic, gunblade, and nashors would be impossible nowadays with the only way you can is of course, playing those older model champions, corki is a good example of a champ that CAN still build off meta, go manamune into ice borne and abysmal mask and it’s just like old league again, you didn’t get those 2 items because you wanted to be efficient or get a slow, you have 4 abilities that only care about one item and one stat, magic pen, now you have heaps of damage from your 3 items scaling off each other, you get free tank stats just from building the most damage with this outdated play style, and to top it off you use the un updated magic pen so your champ snowballs like an old assassin off of tank items, but that just shows that the items didn’t do anything, the items being on corki did, that’s TRUE meta gameplay and I can’t say I’m happy with the item rework because of it, I can’t go gunblade on tristana adc for extra life steal and burst just like I can’t with khazix or eve or jax, I build the item with the stat that works or I fail, and that a boring version of the game I once had.

And Shako's lore is the same yet

@@realshi3841 be cool if shaco was from the same region as Gwen and that he was an actual puppet who was possessed

i mean he used to be scarecrow XD

@@realshi3841 maybe Shaco is the counterpart to Gwen and a Horcrux for Viego.

Omg, thank you so much for that blast from the past, haha. Removing lore from the client was a mistake man...

The sunfire build LOL

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

I remember when her stun also stunned turrets back then, it was so weird.

"invisible microwave" is the best way I've heard it to immediately know what's going on

@@RDKirbyN thanks homie 😂

Mundo is still an insane anti-ap champ. Most mages win by either bursting down their enemy, or blasting them from afar. Mundo's W (and R) counters a mage's 100 - 0 combo, and Mundo's passive + R MS lets him run down any mage trying to keep their distance. Additionally, most mages only have one "get off me" tool, which Mundo's passive hard counters. Also, since most mages aren't DPS mages, Mundo with Heartsteel (and titanic if you can afford) will be able to kill most mages long before his R runs out. Of course, this is assuming a vacuum, and depending on the state of the game, this might go either way. But Mundo is still great at dealing with squishy mages, just not as clear-cut as before.

I miss old mundo 😂 id rather fight his 3%healing per second any fricken day of the week instead of new mundo plus he was so fun to play i loved his flaming aoe

I miss old Vlad

fizz destroyed him really hard, you just avoided mundo got late game lmfao doing over 1k damage per q with missing health damage and health regen nerfed he hard whooped mundo again you did need to hit late game

Cringe ahh

I had to scroll this far to find this comment? I abused the shit out of it back in the day lol

I really miss this Evelynn.

If some of you remember the old DFG the %max hp one (not %current health and not 20% dmg increase one) + her ult was basically point and click one shot

@@simpleh8885 I miss this Eve. Even after the DFG removal I was happy because she still blew people up. Now her Q is just so awkward, I hate how her charm works, and stealth on ult instead of passive sucks. She was my most played champion and I've just switched to ADC instead. EDIT: I also hate how her ulti ejects you from the fight. Give me back the speed buff that resets on kill, even if it does 0 damage.

@@ayanamijyou’re just trash 🤣

The amount of times people were genuinly taken aback when you carried with her was insane. In lower elo, she was a literal vending machine for wins since no one, and I mean no one, was buying pink wards or used ignite properly(also initially she had 60 second stealth when maxed, so she could run from base full stealth). Same with old twitch and his 40 second full stealth, that was a fun time.... ADC with 6 items which can explode your entire team in 3 seconds having a full stealth so that he can just walk to your backline with increased movement and the attack speed was still there... Who even thought that was a good idea.

There was also that weird time with the overtuned AD spirit jg item. Her q reapplied the burn every cast and the first burn tick was applied immediately so her damage was higher than people were used to, even when considering the pushed stats the item had.

I remember when eve's stun was on-hit and when she tried to stun Jax it missed back when dodge was a passive

@@Hunted0LessShirt I Remember the days of ad old evellyn where i made full ad and one shotted almost ever one. It was beautifull. If you fell behind the game was over tho.

@@bite12344 Those same people who thought tf ult had to be basic ability

My q button remebers it vividly

@@kamilstachera Macro for mashing it every 0.1 seconds was stupidly helpful

Now nunu does it.

I remember playing poppy in URF back then, it was so funny to one shot everyone with her Q :')

I still have arthritis from it 😂

agreed

I literally still think of her as the “new Karma”. This video reminded me that she’s been that longer than I played her in her old form. 😂

hybrid scaling was soooo fun in mobas back in the day I want Dawngate and Vainglory etc back 😭

Sunfire used to be stackable. It also did weak enough magic damage that building some MR made it almost useless.

Remember Twitch+Zilean stealth bombs?

@@shaderunner7.0 I do this now with shaco

the ultimate strat was going 4 sunfires + guardian angel + swiftness boots on shaco. His clone had all his item effects at full power so would do 8 sunfires of damage per second and revives him and his clone upon death.

you can still do that on shaco lol

Same, old Galio was one of my mains. I wish riot put Old Galio back in the game, so I can fight rerework Mord or rework Akali. New Galio is not the same just a different Champion with the name Galio.

Yeah, I loved the old Galio too. But I remember that some matchups were straight up impossible depending of who are playing against him - just to name a few: Fizz, Malzahar, Morgana, Brand... If you used magic DOT against Galio you would see him gaining HP. Mid/late game, he could heal from creeps and even from tower if you're too ahead. But, yeah... I had a lot of fun with him - and even liking the new one, I miss the old Galio too.

man, support Galio was my jam... you need to be there witnessing it in person at the time to truly experience the fun that is Kalista + Galio and then was also urf Galio... healing off towers as if they were your Sorakas, what a time to be a league player

@@pewpewdragon4483 Kalista Galio combo was so goated

It was fun playing tank galio on old galio. Made lots of players get tilted by struggling to kill meat shield going back to full health.

Or simply triforce gunblade top. Early focus on farming and just letting them feel the hammer from time to time to instil the respect she deserves. On top of the knowledge, that there wasn't such a thing as YOUR tower. EVERY tower was Poppies tower and you WILL be pinned to that. Well, your dead body that is.

Also his gentleman personality was so nice, and he was Poppy's Best Friend(old Poppy). Now hes kinda rude and egoist

It's horrible. Wtf.

@@GDemi14 Rude? Egoist? Sure he can be rude, but only towards people like Sylas or Noxians. He is just a bit dumb and doesn't really care about anyone anymore, because he sleeps for hundreds of years and everytime he wakes up, he has to realise that his old friends are all gone

i actually remember playing with a friend on urf sion and taric duo top, at that point of time both of them had a point and click stun ability, we would catch one dude and perma stun him for like 10 secs until he dies

Atma impaler or Deathfire grasp

@@xristoskoumpourlis1614 Shit I just used to do Sion and Taric bot lane and it worked by far better than it had any right to. No one expected the AD taric AP Sion combo.

Old sion was something id wanted to main but never could because ive never got top. When i finally managed to be top, sion got VGU uptade. At that time never seen someone play it, nobody knew its ult is unstobable. But i found that sion so much more boring, just when i stopped playing LoL because of infamous first actual tank meta and the birth of pinselhead 0/10 going tank and still deals damage. Where was I? I stopped at season5 because of tankmeta and i didnt like it at all, sion was fun but not FUN enough. Years passed some dud called bauffs teached all of us how to play sion

DUde i used to play old scion before his rework. He was SO FUCKING STUPID to play. But GOD DAMN was his E NUTS early game. Literally was like a free item and let him DEMOLISH creeps early game.

i will always remember killing a full kit adc with my ult and rampage his own team with it.

That was not the old mordekaiser W. It was the 1st reworker W I think. The old one was a shield doing dot. Nothing insane.

Old yorick was bad, but he was charming in a way

@@RDKirbyN old yorick was beyond broken

@@MrPichsaint I don't even remember if old Yorick had any counter picks, he just bullied everyone

@@shindrac Old vladimir was ok against him with his sustain. Your strat was to survive and be stronger in late game than Yorick. It worked for me few times and it was only effective because old Yorick could go out of mana super fast. He just didn't have enough mana to outdamage vladimirs sustain. Vladimir obviously had no mana and could spam his q.

Old Yorick was amazing against Teemo You could blow up his shrooms with W and completely shit on him with E

i used to play old tank poppy on dominion, dying was not a thing until darius came out

Old ap poppy was such a fun assassin with 0 counterplay during teamfights, and karma remains one of my most fondly remembered mid lane picks.

Yep, and if she had 1000 HP and took 1200 DMG Veigar ult she would take 650 dmg, damn I miss the old Poppy. I have once ulted ADC and took out their whole team at 5 items because they didn't run probably not knowing how it works at first and then not knowing just how long it was. Sadly we've still lost the game as they were just crushing us and they have never let me get close again (even if it meant sacrificing someone to stall for time).

i used to play old tank poppy on dominion, dying was not a thing until darius came out

Picking galio into brand was so fun. Running into his skillshots to heal

I loved that against kat ult

agree, loved the old karma... the new karma is just meh, kind of pure support, you actually have to rely now more on your team than the old one cause you can't kill ppl.

@@kyoukatsuariadust6744 Leblanc was dominating during that time and I would 100% always pick Karma when i see one. max Shield first and Leb loses every single trade. If we get back old karma and she got refined a little she would be super strong till!

Putting a ward in the middle of the lane, just like Katarina and Jax Noone was taking Karma seriously .. as a mage it was difficult to burst correctly because of bad Q visual range. But sure, using E on a minion to do damages was fun :) I mainly played her support at that time, saved my ADC several times thanks to shield then heal :D

@@kyoukatsuariadust6744 You can play the new Karma as a tanky top. Her healing from tether is really good, and lots of poke from her Q

thank you :)

He’s rated.

I don't know how people can still call aatrox riven 2.0 Anyway, the period that he was finally good wasn't because of his kit (his kit received the first update way before that), but because of a new op build. Trinity, guinsoo and titanic hydra if I remember correctly. People started picking him and started having fun because guess what? Winning was easy with him now. That's why so many people were pissed about him being removed from the game. 4 years being one of the worst champions in the game to suddently being the best top laner.

@@ZargorrOG Probably because of the 3 hit q.

Back in the days before role selection old Taric was invaluable at keeping awful adc's alive through laning phase even though they took every skillshot to the face and were getting hooked and jumped on constantly.

@@ZargorrOG New Aatrox is Riven 2.0 because they both have a passive that buffs their next auto damage, a triple cast Q that does a small AoE of damage after a very short dash, a short range hard CC W, a short dash E, and an Ult that essentially just adds stats. Especially since they completely removed Aatrox's iconic and defining revive passive.

@@goazer2 i loved playing taric support and destroying the overconfident adc in a 1v1 when my adc backed

Ah yes, the old sion, 140 something ad at level one, outhealing fountain with his ult.

Old Sion was one of the craziest things in league. It was basically point, click and kill. I also loved his goofy jaw and axe.

fuckkkkk.. old AP sion was so funny to troll with. The long range stun that did more dmg the further it went, then you pop em with that FAT AP shield lol. Good times

I remember playing old Poppy A LOT before the rework. To the point where I got really sad when I saw it. I will always remember surviving 3 player ganks by just ulting someone with no cc and calmly walking away. Even tho the cooldown was pretty crazy

Same bro as ivern and shaco main It's like heaven

exactly this. my best friend got me a skin for him and then the rework. so sad. lol

The only thing old galio lacks is, his Ult is lack of immunity to cc it can easily be interupted.

@@grahamburbanck1663 same here, I had the enchanted skin

​@@SkyBreeze098this made Braum the perfect counter-pick to him, since his passive stuns him on 4 attacks.

the core motivation to play the game haven't changed since back then. It's still just climb the rank ladder and flame teammates who you think are bad.

Idk, it might just be an elo thing cuz nobody flames me when I pick something like sylas or Warwick support. People question me, but nobody's every really that toxic.

@@karenwang313 Both Sylas and Warwick are semi-reliable CC, tankyness and utility, doesn't surprise me too much. They do sound like fun picks to play

@@karenwang313 Those are very good picks, and consider their ADC dead if your team has one more other CC. If you still get flamed with very good picks, your server if not atleast your queue has something wrong.

@@karenwang313 people in Iron aren't such a fan of my Aphelios support with Minion Demat and Smite. Lots of free chat bans given away when I pick it lmfao.

And I loved playing Old Karma top. The only champ that gave me trouble was Renekton, but otherwise she was pretty powerful against them. And massive shield explosion. Luv it

I got wood thinking of old karma

You mean the old AP or AD sion which either way could oneshot you before you could do anything thanks to the click and point 2 second stun ? Or the ultra omega tank version which could make even Cho' Gath blush when he sees how much HP and raw tankiness he had. Yeah that was broken alright

i still prefer how she felt to play back then tbh idc if she's viable now :,)

Same here. Stopped Platini league after that rework. Crit eve was also great. Actually you could buy anything and still carry.

I feel you, i was a urgot galio zac aatrox and seju main and all got ripped apart

@@hawk-nightcore5577 poppy and taric main here. Both top and jungle, but RITO can't have champs countering their YOLO-Quintuple-dash-1-shot meta... Hell, i LOVED pre rework Soraka, both mid and jungle... The clear speed and sustain was phenominal. And teamfights... you went tanky dps and were first ignored becasue you take so long to kill and don't deal damage. 4 sec later they noticed, that your starfall has stacked up and are now trying to get away from it, while rylias says no. Ahh good times.

Yeah, still want my old poppy back, even if core parts of her itembuild were removed. Just having a champ, who excels at reliably disrupting the enemies formation, ripping holes in the front line while forcing the target in the backline to retreate (or deal with you) was just so satisfying

Old urgot was fun. Just ugly

@@nergigante. that I can't argue with lol

I loved the hyper carry part of it. As Exil said: You couldn't do it every game (or even most games) as your early and mid game sucked and you just loose before you became relevant, but the 6 item fights where you can literally charge in 1v5 and win because no one can stop you were satisfying beyond compare.

They basically removed the champion and only kept her name like most reworks

Yeah I dont like that there is no true hybrid build now. Even Jax prefers to pick AD or AP now. I remember the times of hextech gunblade and guinsoo's that give both AP and AD. Old Akali, Katarina, Jax, Kayle, Evelynn, Twisted Fate, old Aatrox

​@robertjohnpecayo8642 I've had the worst luck picking mains. Akali, karma , Quinn and Tristana all before reworks.

Not only is this completely untrue, but it's also a terrible take. Wow.

@@salj.5459 right? "so balanced"; what world is this person living in?

@@mattr.1804 World 6-9 - Unbalanced Territory

There is much more content/posts hating on the game right now but oh boy, the raging and flaming was way worse back then imo. You should've seen the chat after a Nunu hiden on a bush one shots a whole team with his ult. Or after a Sion got into the fountain to kill someone as the respawned. Crazy times haha

Eve was good back then. Stunning from stealth was highly underrated. Her ultimate worked well if you went ad and often time just got you out after assassinating.

I still remember sniping my enemies from 20 km away and making them tilt so hard lmao

I maibed old yorick. I feel you :'D

!!!! :D

Diving in, pushing the tank to the back (He belongs behind the casters, right?). Then gunblade the adc and make him run away, knowing he wont succeed and simply walk away. Your job was done and your team didn't even need to try to clean up.

liandrys with the stupid crow ability, bah!