good to know :) noted!

Ditto!

Really?

Yes but it is CURRENTly, could be next month a different synth is my favorite, but it is very very good! @@partlysimpson5154

How much they pay for u?

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It really is saturated. I should know: I have most of them!

@@YourMom-zt5zj It is an interesting topic depending on what you are looking for. I think slicky plucky sounds and beautiful pads are not a selling point nowadays, there are already tons of them. I'm waiting for the next generation of more analogishbrutal-sounding synths, which take it to the next level and allow you to stay in the box.

I took the annual RTO, that costs 120 dollar, for that you will receive a voucher of 180 dollar, so then you can have the perpetual license for 140 dollar total, plus a year all packs and fx plugins you can use.

It’s called Current. The company is minimal audio. Their main sell is the subscription, so its not 200$, but 5-10$ (but recurring). It’s really preset focused, the presets are way more distinctive, arpeggiated and modulated, they do a lot of heavy lifting for you. So its less a competitor for paid synths, more of a competitor for splice or Output Arcade. Or even: Output Arcade but for EDM.

@@terrordisco2944 No matter how you calculate €10 month after month ends up being €200. I am very familiar with which VST synths are on the market, and nothing convinces regarding the price. Then many people may like Minimal's products anyway, I have nothing against the company. As I wrote the market is saturated but I still bought Moog's new Mariana for $50, which I think is a reasonable price in 2024.

noted 💪

I need to download the update. Solid synth, good to know it's Linux compatible.

:D true, the grid really eats up a lot of time, at the expense of other synths

I also think that we are near to not need any other synth to generate any sound in Bitwig.

agreed, the grid is powerful!

@@PolarityMusic For me the status of having learned something is made up of twp tasks : 1) Acquiring the data (your videos are perfect examples of how to) 2) Integration into common creativity tasks. Unless step 2) is performed and assessed, there's no learning that happened. I'm comfortable with some synths, and with the Grid it barely starts. By that I mean to put the Grid to creative purpose in real-time when creativity is the main task, not searching for things, not learning, but instead 100% creation. Your videos are an invaluable source of learning but one also has to do the work of following along, experimenting, getting the learning into practical steps, understanding at a intuitive level. I'd say you are doing your part, and it's up to the people to do their own.

He he ... Insane : the price Infinite : the subscription (was ?)

stay strong 💪

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vital and phaseplant is more than you need

@@PolarityMusic I have DS Thorn as part of the Plugin Alliance bundle and it’s an interesting synth. I need more samples at this point, everything else I have pretty much.

How are you finding Avenger 2?

@@adamarmstrong9408 It's a really a beast, it feels a lot like Kontakt in many ways. You can set drums and multiple arpegiators. Very complete and powerful FX you can have a lot of oscillators up to 6 and drums. You can have multiple FX buses as well as send buses and arrange the routing to your desire. The sound is superb.

If you can't deal with Diva's (excellent) UI, I don't know if much can be done for you. Picky, picky.

@@YourMom-zt5zj Diva may be the most beautiful plugin ever made, but that by itself doesn’t make it usable. In the world of software, it was already known over 20 years ago that it’s generally a bad idea to make software resemble the physical devices it models, studies were conducted and books were written. Some developers (like Minimal, or Kilohearts) appear to be aware of that; others (hello, Cherry Audio) clearly don't care. For one thing, I like when oscillators, filters, LFOs and modulations are visualized, that really helps. But Diva also has parts that are obscure, like not being able to quickly see which envelope controls the main amp (it’s not always the top one). And the absolute worst: the „Polarity” toggles for each LFO. There is no way to tell what the indicators mean: when they’re lit, does that mean unipolar or bipolar? It’s not for lack of space, the word “Bipolar” is even one letter shorter. It could have been fixed years ago, at the cost of changing the label. It’s like u-he want it to be that way: intentionally difficult.

@@YourMom-zt5zj Diva's UI is not bad at all. So many things can be done as it is. Listen to the latest soundset from U-he. Most synths are using a hardware UI metaphor today. That does not make them difficult to use. Because with knowledge possessed, when something is not seen in a graphical way, the user will picture it quite correctly in the mind. No problem with that. Not everything can be explicitly represented graphically. And then there are alternative skins available, like Aiko.

@@nominou6 - I agree with you, I think you meant to respond to the person above me. You know what really gets my goat? I upgraded to Fabfilter's Twin 3 recently, and they're STILL not using semitones for pitch bend! Still! I don't want to have to remember that 1.60 or .160 or whatever corresponds to 2 semitones. It's stupid. I love their UIs generally, but it's a radically different style. I really don't mind either style, is my point. I can adapt to both, and it's kind of fun to figure out what the original hardware manufacturers were thinking and visualize the signal path in your head. It's not always easy, but it can lead to some happy accidents, which can be more inspiration. There are UIs I really do not much like, though. MeldaProduction is getting somewhat better, but there are still issues. The plugins themselves tend to sound fantastic, though, so I buy them anyway. Really, at the end of the day I will suffer for SOUND QUALITY. That's the main thing we should ultimately be after if we want to release a commercial product: what is the final, rendered outcome of the instrument and does it sound competitive? If it doesn't, all the pretty UIs in the world are worthless and you must admit you're just a hobbyist. You're not looking to compete with the best of the best, because a dance club full of beautiful people, for example, do not at all know about or care about how usable your UIs were: they care that what they're hearing sounds cool enough to make them look cool by being in its presence with their friends. Does it?

@@YourMom-zt5zj "I think you meant to respond to the person above me." Indeed. Sorry but then, it sparked more replies. I agree with the adaptation to the UI of the synth/tool. It's actually part of the discovery, exploration, creation process. And the fun in there. If uniformity is wished then Bitwig 5.x can group, using modulators and remote controls, many different layered synths thus creating a new and unique synth on the spot, for the need of a current creation. With Melda I find myself often going back to the edit mode although for MSF I like several of the proposed UIs. I'm from a software design background, so naturally I found the basic edit Melda more just nice. It reminded me of emacs :) Yes, sound quality is the main interest. When having such a focus, and with a liking to discover things - not to forget the fun in doing so - then I don't recall any UI that was so bad that it couldn't be used or caused creative blocks. Although I must say the the new Bitwig browser .... sometimes, well, that's another topic :) It;s actually that fun, that 'play' part of 'music playing' that makes things interesting and is the one most susceptible to vanished when fiddling too much about a creation. The challenge being keeping a good balance between fun and technicality all the way to the results.

I put a thumbs up, for any synth for that matter.

Cpu high

we all do 🤣

Yeah, I agree with you there. The effects are quite sophisticated and not just cheap add-ons. If the CPU gets too strained, maybe try turning down the oversampling in the options.

sketchy because of the subscription model at launch?

@@PolarityMusic No they did not tell the youtubers covering this synth before launch that it would be subscription only. They apologized after becuz of the massive backlash, but have since removed that video. I dont think you can trust them anymore with your money.