Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness ILLUMINATI Mystery Seventh Member?

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Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness Illuminati full lineup explained! Who was the mystery seventh member of the team, and why wasn't it 838 Stephen Strange? Erik Voss explains how the 838 Illuminati could have had a long-lost seventh member: Tony Stark, Namor, or T'Challa!
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@AlexEatsCats
@AlexEatsCats 2 жыл бұрын
Last seat is occupied by 838 Draxx who has mastered the ability of sitting so incredibly still, that he becomes invisible to the eye.
@DeeJaySmoke978
@DeeJaySmoke978 2 жыл бұрын
Most goated comment ever
@twiztidschmitz7037
@twiztidschmitz7037 2 жыл бұрын
I second this wholeheartedly 🤣
@paullopez9208
@paullopez9208 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Bengt2509
@Bengt2509 2 жыл бұрын
Lol yeah
@6themoodypoet920
@6themoodypoet920 2 жыл бұрын
This one perhaps played by John Cena this time.
@haleemanning624
@haleemanning624 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely believe 616 Strange was right about Mordo encouraging 838 Strange to use the Dark hold.
@ALEXANDERATTACK
@ALEXANDERATTACK 2 жыл бұрын
Of course you would. Why can't it just be his own fault.
@jeffrocha5978
@jeffrocha5978 2 жыл бұрын
@@ALEXANDERATTACK cuz Mordo basically did encourage Strange to use it haha
@michaeljessie3645
@michaeljessie3645 2 жыл бұрын
Strange just said that to get Mordo to attack him and break the cuffs
@mr.lightzplease9366
@mr.lightzplease9366 2 жыл бұрын
@@ALEXANDERATTACK because Mordo is a villain when comes down to it. He has never been a hero like Strange he always ends up goin down a bad path just like all Stranges are dangerous because of their Ego’s
@Diddylegoproductions
@Diddylegoproductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaeljessie3645 if what strange said was false, mordo wouldn’t have reacted the way he did. It’s when strange says that mordo gave strange the dark hold is when mordo gets really upset. Cause mordo knows what he did. He wanted stephens place as the sorcerer supreme.
@robbcarloss
@robbcarloss 2 жыл бұрын
I’m leaning more towards Namor/T’Challa because it makes the most sense comicswise, but it would be interesting if Marvel put an Eternal on the Illuminati. I feel like that would help include them in MCU more
@vipulcoc2822
@vipulcoc2822 2 жыл бұрын
It won't be tchala
@mr.ultimatebluemarvel9565
@mr.ultimatebluemarvel9565 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you player
@Son-of-Krypton
@Son-of-Krypton 2 жыл бұрын
They have to replace entire Illuminati as Wanda ate the last batch 😂
@robbcarloss
@robbcarloss 2 жыл бұрын
@@vipulcoc2822 yeah probably not, but namor would be super cool!
@robbcarloss
@robbcarloss 2 жыл бұрын
@@Son-of-Krypton frrrr 💀
@PatJWilliams
@PatJWilliams 2 жыл бұрын
It's Namor , but he is played by John Cena, that's why you can't see him
@GrimlockGuy34
@GrimlockGuy34 2 жыл бұрын
I like to think its Hank Pym Antman. He just stayed tiny cuz he knew something was gunna go down.
@AnthonyMerryman
@AnthonyMerryman 2 жыл бұрын
Haha now that's some out of the box thinking!
@ellehcim2779
@ellehcim2779 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna pretend Hank Pym doesn't exist
@andreedwards4542
@andreedwards4542 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@juliochevante7799
@juliochevante7799 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh!!! That would explain the ultron sentries in this universe and why we couldn’t see him
@Tiomioes
@Tiomioes 2 жыл бұрын
@@juliochevante7799 no cuz if that were true he wouldve helped when wanda invaded
@joshuagorski9452
@joshuagorski9452 2 жыл бұрын
Going by Erik’s logic of the original comics team, I’m guessing Namor
@omegamaximus1727
@omegamaximus1727 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking Namor as well.
@shawnmiranda805
@shawnmiranda805 2 жыл бұрын
It's Stevens from that universe
@arieggerts2709
@arieggerts2709 2 жыл бұрын
@@shawnmiranda805 mordo took his seat
@willnasella.6638
@willnasella.6638 2 жыл бұрын
I think it could be blade
@arieggerts2709
@arieggerts2709 2 жыл бұрын
@@willnasella.6638 blade isnt an iluminaty type figure, well actually now that you mention it, it chould fit,
@loganc23
@loganc23 2 жыл бұрын
What if it was Doctor Doom, representing Latveria? He is a brilliant mind, and an excellent strategist who could have been good for a period of time, until he left, becoming an evil super villain (leaving the chair empty)! I think this could be why in that universe Doctor Doom could be the Fantastic Four’s arch nemesis. Or he could have left wanting more power within the Illuminati, but not being granted it as they seem to be pretty equal in power there.
@WruceBane
@WruceBane 2 жыл бұрын
That would be earth-976 that has doom & magneto on the council. But even on that earth namor is still a member. I’m guessing it’s for namor (anti hero hence off in the corner away from everyone else ) he shows up when matters involve Atlantis otherwise he doesn’t care
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 2 жыл бұрын
Could be
@EpicMuttonChops
@EpicMuttonChops 2 жыл бұрын
doesn't make sense why Mr Fantastic AND Dr Doom would willingly sit on the same council without fighting each other
@lezlethal
@lezlethal 2 жыл бұрын
Could be an alternate Dr. DOOM. He has his own nation and has shown plenty of time that he will work with the "heroes" in order to save the planet. He could also be the go between the Illuminati and other villains of that world.
@kadechristensen9208
@kadechristensen9208 2 жыл бұрын
If they were going to go the Wakanda route it would’ve been really cool to see a Killmonger variant who had the throne like in what if
@TheMultiverseofSpidey
@TheMultiverseofSpidey 2 жыл бұрын
I think our Doctor Strange took note about the idea of the Illuminati and will establish his own Illuminati in earth 616 at some point in the future.
@cameronpritchett7512
@cameronpritchett7512 2 жыл бұрын
He might see the authoritarianism in it and say hey that didn't really work for their universe
@edercortes1960
@edercortes1960 2 жыл бұрын
Screw that give me an Illuminati movie rather than another avengers
@kevinw712
@kevinw712 2 жыл бұрын
I do get a big kick out of the group of a half dozen living gods who make major decisions in secret on behalf of billions of lives are all indignant at Steven Strange having "the nerve" to use his superpowers to do a thing that could affect billions of lives. like it's totally cool that THEY do cause, ya know, there's like SIX of them.
@detroitdiezel7856
@detroitdiezel7856 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Captain Obvious!
@jorilysmatos69
@jorilysmatos69 2 жыл бұрын
@@cameronpritchett7512 yes, but a multi-versal event might force his hand.
@TheMultiverseofSpidey
@TheMultiverseofSpidey 2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie: The arrogance being the downfall of the Illuminati is lowkey a major point in the way they’re written.
@choppaa4204
@choppaa4204 2 жыл бұрын
Hubris… multiverse… kidnapping your multiversal children… I should rewatch Fringe again.
@ArtofLunatik
@ArtofLunatik 2 жыл бұрын
dont lie
@agilebeast9405
@agilebeast9405 2 жыл бұрын
People can't see this, they think that because they are the smartest/strongest they can win/outsmart everyone
@bdb7185
@bdb7185 2 жыл бұрын
It was poor writing not the characters
@saveyoutub
@saveyoutub 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody go see Aquaman 2, WB reduced Amber Herds role to 10 min, They didn't cut the liar from the film.
@TonOfAshYT
@TonOfAshYT 2 жыл бұрын
6:51 I’d say it was reserved for the King/Queen of England (whose super power may also be immortality like in our universe)
@vuyaningamlana8489
@vuyaningamlana8489 Жыл бұрын
The ladies they love Dr Strange maybe it his perform or his insane jokes😶‍🌫
@schlattko664
@schlattko664 Жыл бұрын
This aged well
@jeremybrinkmann6653
@jeremybrinkmann6653 2 жыл бұрын
There are a few open chairs now!
@christianvarghese
@christianvarghese Жыл бұрын
😭
@bkjstudio
@bkjstudio 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed this in the concept art in the first set of credits!
@bkjstudio
@bkjstudio 2 жыл бұрын
There is a person in the chair in the credits
@brianrobinson4001
@brianrobinson4001 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's a member of the X-Force. If not Deadpool. It's definitely Peter. He answered the flyer.
@ecruz81
@ecruz81 2 жыл бұрын
It was probably the Vanisher.
@Laurenlena
@Laurenlena 2 жыл бұрын
@@ecruz81 😂 perfect
@redpanda1971
@redpanda1971 2 жыл бұрын
Sugar Bear?
@johnsechrist1602
@johnsechrist1602 2 жыл бұрын
If it was honoring anyone, it was Chadwick. I think Waldron just wanted Tom Cruise that bad. But could easily be Namor, but with BP2 so close, that makes sense that Feige would squash it
@BenjaminTomera
@BenjaminTomera 2 жыл бұрын
The seventh seat was filled. It was Brad Pitt's "Vanisher" from Deadpool 2, representing the X-Force faction on the Illuminati.
@soondslash
@soondslash 2 жыл бұрын
took me a minute to get that lmao
@AnthonyMerryman
@AnthonyMerryman 2 жыл бұрын
It's Namor, it gives them a lead in for the secret wars and Ultimates.
@vuyaningamlana8489
@vuyaningamlana8489 Жыл бұрын
The ladies they love Dr Strange maybe it his perform or his insane jokes😶‍🌫
@quintin1904
@quintin1904 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's Iron Lad. Iron Lad may have left the illuminati after finding out HE was Kang. He could've went rogue and traveled to Earth-616 recruiting members for the Young Avengers to help stop his future self
@robertm.barrett9023
@robertm.barrett9023 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was a kang too.
@EdMercedECV87075
@EdMercedECV87075 Жыл бұрын
I like these answers
@havokh8863
@havokh8863 2 жыл бұрын
I think it could've belonged to Ajak, Ikaris, or Sersi representing the Eternals
@Koitto1
@Koitto1 Жыл бұрын
Thats not likely because the eternals mission
@talesofderp
@talesofderp 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the idea of leaving the seat open bc it allows for whoever it belongs to the opportunity to rebuild the Illuminati with Mordo
@TheMultiverseofSpidey
@TheMultiverseofSpidey 2 жыл бұрын
I think that the most likely character to be revived are John Krasinski’s Reed Richard’s and Haley Atwell’s Captain Carter, if John is not Mr. Fantastic in the upcoming Fantastic Four movies I’m gonna lose it!
@jermainekngdom3154
@jermainekngdom3154 2 жыл бұрын
Riot riot riot riot
@joshuamohlman
@joshuamohlman 2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling he will my friend
@redtopcosplay2004
@redtopcosplay2004 2 жыл бұрын
Not the best pick. Gimme Howerton
@uvindukulathunga3860
@uvindukulathunga3860 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I thought they wouldnt even get killed lol
@christianrodriguez3877
@christianrodriguez3877 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, they could grab a Reed Richards and Captain Carter from another universe. 838 Mr. Fantastic and Captain Carter are dead but there’s infinite earths so they just grab one from a different universe. Plus since What If has Captain Carter as a focal character, 838 Carter is not the What If version. So infinite Captain Carters and Reed Richards do exist. In some universe out there, Ioan Gruffudd and Miles Teller are just chilling never to be seen by 616’s eyes
@808CHAKU
@808CHAKU 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine ghost rider being a member represents the underworld
@ramseyVScomics
@ramseyVScomics 2 жыл бұрын
Mordo says something to the effect of “the last member has arrived” as professor X rolls in. So the council was, according to Mordo, complete. Whoever the last seat was for has either not joined, or no longer in the illuminati.
@dantepisani890
@dantepisani890 2 жыл бұрын
Well, it's probably just Xavier's seat but he doesn't use it because, you know...
@shawnmiranda805
@shawnmiranda805 2 жыл бұрын
It's strange's old seat before they killed him he founded the illuminati in that universe
@ValoeloEL
@ValoeloEL 2 жыл бұрын
@@shawnmiranda805 Wasn’t Mordo his replacement though?
@ngsonny2177
@ngsonny2177 2 жыл бұрын
@@ValoeloEL yeah he was
@jeremybrinkmann6653
@jeremybrinkmann6653 2 жыл бұрын
Could of been their Strange's chair.
@funkytwostep
@funkytwostep 2 жыл бұрын
I hope it’s a really teeny-tiny Hank Pym who split when Wanda started splitting his friends.
@KingsBic
@KingsBic 2 жыл бұрын
I think they could be honoring Chadwick Bozeman. The military honors POW-MIA-KIA with One empty seat at dining events.
@levysonix6756
@levysonix6756 2 жыл бұрын
I like that
@krookt
@krookt 2 жыл бұрын
It's what I've thought also
@Hadeks_Marow
@Hadeks_Marow 2 жыл бұрын
It would only be honoring him if they said it was for him. Them playing coy and saying it could be anyone goes against the nature of honoring a person.
@hgeetoowellz
@hgeetoowellz 2 жыл бұрын
I agree , r.i.p. Chadwick bosman
@el-chupanibre
@el-chupanibre 2 жыл бұрын
I mean it could easily be answered as it's the mutant ambassador chair, however since Prof X obviously doesn't need one it's just sits empty while he occupys the vacant standing space in the center. I mean it's possible I guess haha
@ninzapou
@ninzapou 2 жыл бұрын
Yes this makes sense. 👍🏻
@jonalen4217
@jonalen4217 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think this is it. For ceremonial occasions, Prof X would be sitting there. But for unexpected stuff, like Dr. Strange showing up, Prof X would just roll through. I thing it would be pretty discourteous to Prof X to not provide him a proper chair.
@Camera728
@Camera728 2 жыл бұрын
NO, cause if that's the case then Prof should be on the other side of the chair... makes to sense for a gap where Prof is currently at
@dacollecta2000
@dacollecta2000 2 жыл бұрын
They needed that seat open as a teaser. It's for the mutants, but Xavier has his own chair.
@aikidragon9762
@aikidragon9762 2 жыл бұрын
I think the seventh seat belongs to Namor as the water world isn't represented in the current member list.
@charliescoulding6324
@charliescoulding6324 2 жыл бұрын
Simple- there were only ever 6 members but there used to be one key difference, professor x used to be able to walk when their illuminati was founded and they never removed the chair because that would mean putting it back when he needed replacing
@Gij0e10
@Gij0e10 2 жыл бұрын
An Asgardian can be in that seat if Asgard got destroyed by Surtur or Thanos since he has the Space stone in the 838. They took refuge in Earth, thus represent a faction. And its always a plus of someone knowledgeable about the cosmos, magic, and science. Plus they have an army.
@israelcanepa2431
@israelcanepa2431 2 жыл бұрын
Unlikely.
@Gij0e10
@Gij0e10 2 жыл бұрын
@@israelcanepa2431 respect
@Vivekraj-in8gq
@Vivekraj-in8gq 2 жыл бұрын
Actually Balder the brave was supposed to be another member of Illuminati but it was cut from the movie Balder the brave is Thor's another brother
@captainswagger2838
@captainswagger2838 2 жыл бұрын
That depends if the space stone ended up in asguard as it did in 616
@Maelwys
@Maelwys 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody is missing at all. That seat is filled with the Guardians of the Galaxy representative, Drax. He's just sitting so incredibly still that he's become invisible to the eye.
@UNREALISAIAH
@UNREALISAIAH 2 жыл бұрын
copycat
@Maelwys
@Maelwys 2 жыл бұрын
@@UNREALISAIAH If you're referring to the Alex comment, it wasn't there when I wrote mine. Apparently great minds just think alike.
@charleneWL
@charleneWL 2 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂
@UNREALISAIAH
@UNREALISAIAH 2 жыл бұрын
ok
@bainhamien
@bainhamien 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why the 7th seat wasn't 838 Strange's before he died, thanks for clearing that up!
@coreymkb6919
@coreymkb6919 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for confirming that it was a red planet in the background of Sinister Strange’s universe! No one was talking about it and I thought I was going crazy haha
@vuyaningamlana8489
@vuyaningamlana8489 Жыл бұрын
The ladies they love Dr Strange maybe it his perform or his insane jokes😶‍🌫
@TheMightyBubbs
@TheMightyBubbs 2 жыл бұрын
Loki, as a variant that ended up the rightful King of Asgard.
@OsamaEG
@OsamaEG 2 жыл бұрын
the stupid TVA should have been stopped that unfortunately.
@DaDandyman
@DaDandyman 2 жыл бұрын
@@OsamaEG the TVA is no longer hunting loki variants
@bdb7185
@bdb7185 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was Kang
@brobs0463
@brobs0463 2 жыл бұрын
Cool idea would have been a great visual, maybe in 838 Thor died on Thanos’ ship and Loki became king
@MiloMurphysLaw
@MiloMurphysLaw 2 жыл бұрын
@@OsamaEG but then wouldn’t the TVA also have prevented Peggy from becoming Captain Carter or Maria from becoming Captain Marvel? Wouldn’t they be considered variants?
@blazercage
@blazercage 2 жыл бұрын
Actually they ordered 6 seats from IKEA but Professor X brought his own.
@danialidhzham6582
@danialidhzham6582 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@InterestingFact69
@InterestingFact69 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@charleneWL
@charleneWL 2 жыл бұрын
Lol 😆
@gabrielduran3512
@gabrielduran3512 2 жыл бұрын
Love this channel
@WenderPottery
@WenderPottery 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad KZfaq decided I needed context to the "Illuminati" lmfao
@kaibound1461
@kaibound1461 2 жыл бұрын
I do wonder if it could've been a member of the Defenders, maybe Matt Murdock or Jessica Jones. It's not that much of a separate group, but maybe it could be a future plan to bring that group fully into the MCU with Daredevil in No Way Home and Kingpin in Hawkeye
@keerthichandra376
@keerthichandra376 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously? Matt Murdock and Jessica Jones in illuminati? I dont think u understand how many levels up illuminati is and why someone from defenders wont be on it.
@christopher7169
@christopher7169 2 жыл бұрын
I said something like this. Glad I'm not the only one who thought of it!
@kaibound1461
@kaibound1461 2 жыл бұрын
@@sammysalgado1475 could this have been a reason as to why he left though? When 838 Strange used the darkhold and became corrupted, Matt Murdock saw this, and decided in his best interest to take no part of it anymore
@myplaylist3738
@myplaylist3738 2 жыл бұрын
It's 838 Drax, representing the guardian of the galaxy.
@rayrayjaan6090
@rayrayjaan6090 2 жыл бұрын
I understood that referance
@pizzathehut1674
@pizzathehut1674 2 жыл бұрын
It’s got to be Namor, his atlantean roots and mutant background is too good for Marvel to not use considering the mythological route for this phase. Namor hates most of these members anyways so maybe he’s meant to not be shown yet
@BretMuckdogs
@BretMuckdogs 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Erik!
@spacecase7717
@spacecase7717 2 жыл бұрын
Namor was in the original concept art with Professor X.
@KomaValorina
@KomaValorina 2 жыл бұрын
The 7th seat is for Erik Voss to represent the metalore nerdverse of the MCU 😉
@Incepter.
@Incepter. 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, it can be cannon.
@sakshammaloo8503
@sakshammaloo8503 2 жыл бұрын
I am not sure but there is a possibility that the underwater tremors mentioned in Avengers endgame by okoye of wakanda could be related to Atlantis. It was mentioned in the start of the movie where bruce tells nat clints location
@loganc4233
@loganc4233 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@aydangrill4897
@aydangrill4897 2 жыл бұрын
If you see this I hope you have a good day
@girlirl
@girlirl 2 жыл бұрын
No you!
@UNREALISAIAH
@UNREALISAIAH 2 жыл бұрын
@@girlirl Uno Reverse card!
@thompsonturnworks7788
@thompsonturnworks7788 2 жыл бұрын
Good day to you, sir.
@jakejam567
@jakejam567 2 жыл бұрын
T'chala being the seventh member wud make more sense. Due to the fact that Michael Waldron explained he wrote MOM upon that specific comic.
@robertshaw1175
@robertshaw1175 Жыл бұрын
I'll be honest I just assumed there was always 6 seats Xavier just doesn't need his but if he would ever be replaced they would need one.
@hershelwalkerjr818
@hershelwalkerjr818 2 жыл бұрын
Illuminati: here’s your chair Xavier Xavier: no thanks I brought my own
@RK-ig8gc
@RK-ig8gc 2 жыл бұрын
Could be an Asgardian that was killed in their Ragnorak like Balder or Sif
@mickmcmonagle4664
@mickmcmonagle4664 2 жыл бұрын
Rumours are they wanted Daniel Craig to be either Balder or Reed Richards
@stevencooper564
@stevencooper564 2 жыл бұрын
@@mickmcmonagle4664 He would have been a great Balder.
@ohaubert
@ohaubert 2 жыл бұрын
@@mickmcmonagle4664 reed? wth
@jax_firestorm9689
@jax_firestorm9689 2 жыл бұрын
We’ve gotten a lot of teases and hints of Namor in the MCU. I think it’s Namor.
@vuyaningamlana8489
@vuyaningamlana8489 Жыл бұрын
The ladies they love Dr Strange maybe it his perform or his insane jokes😶‍🌫
@WatchMeLearnIt
@WatchMeLearnIt 2 жыл бұрын
I love the illuminati context tag being added to this video LOL
@Takar100
@Takar100 Жыл бұрын
I just like how youtube added some context below the video to this video because you mention the Illuminati.
@lamlily154
@lamlily154 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the 7th member is a variant of Ultron maybe representing an A.I faction maybe a city like 01 from the Matrix. The reason why I think that is because the sentries reference to Ultron so Ultron may be alive and turned good after Sokovia.
@kanashiterri7137
@kanashiterri7137 2 жыл бұрын
That's not half bad
@latinoddity
@latinoddity 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like since supposed test screeners said RDJ was in it, it might have been RDJ? Idk that would go into speculation territory. But I’m definitely thinking Namor
@chrisharley1803
@chrisharley1803 2 жыл бұрын
It woulda been a nice call back if our Tony was approached by their Strange and the truth was our Tony was a co founder tasked with keeping all the realities safe. Tony could of took the snap to prevent our Strange from a sim fate .
@alexanderherrera684
@alexanderherrera684 2 жыл бұрын
I know this isn’t what the video is about, BUT… You can’t just say you “confirmed” 838 Vision is alive because of your other video 🤦🏽‍♂️ there’s always a possibility that Reed Richards created Ultron in that universe and it was successful, therefore Vision wouldn’t have even been created.
@cliftonbennett9028
@cliftonbennett9028 2 жыл бұрын
he's saying the MIND STONE was missing from the gauntlet which Vision possesses when Thanos gets the Mind Stone so that would mean Vision still would have it.
@ginolibang6069
@ginolibang6069 2 жыл бұрын
I have a simpler explanation: there are six chairs, one for each member of the Illuminati. However, since Xavier brings his own chair, nobody sits on the 6th chair.
@MarvelousMusicmmusic
@MarvelousMusicmmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Nahhh
@keerthichandra376
@keerthichandra376 2 жыл бұрын
As good an explanation as any 😅
@novabell24
@novabell24 2 жыл бұрын
They actually did confirm that the seventh member was actually suppose to be Baldor the Brave played by Daniel Creg. Baldor is Thor’s half-brother. They confirmed that the way he would have died would have been Wanda convincing him to kill himself.
@Hadeks_Marow
@Hadeks_Marow 2 жыл бұрын
Where at??? Also, how does that work when we have a captain marvel representing everything out of world? Unless we are suggesting that asgard is on earth in this timeline as well?
@hotcheetosgirl08
@hotcheetosgirl08 2 жыл бұрын
Dark
@acusingbereto3784
@acusingbereto3784 2 жыл бұрын
Average Twitter day
@oscarsanchez-ci7vq
@oscarsanchez-ci7vq 2 жыл бұрын
I killed Baldur in god of war haha he was a beast tho was probably the strongest if I’m basing it off the game he reveals and doesn’t feel anything
@calebstephan2083
@calebstephan2083 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hadeks_Marow in this universe instead of Thor being sent to earth and eventually becoming a member of the avengers, it's suppose to be his brother baldur who gets sent to earth. Since baldur is completely unkillable in the cut scene Wanda was suppose to convince him to kill himself using his weakness which only baldur himself knows about.
@Ghostalking
@Ghostalking 2 жыл бұрын
Why is it so hard to believe that was simply Dr Strange’s seat before they had to kill him?..
@chrispickard5385
@chrispickard5385 2 жыл бұрын
The answer to your question is that doctor strange was the sixth member until he became dark and bad from the book. So mordo become the sixth member. So seventh chair can't belong to him.
@Ghostalking
@Ghostalking 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that, I had not picked up on that detail!
@tst3000
@tst3000 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Hank Pym is the final member and was there the whole time. He’s just small, not talking and too old to fight.
@victoriaabrilvazquez9863
@victoriaabrilvazquez9863 Жыл бұрын
Its The Wasp, It was going to appear in the movie, but It didnt...
@Lenandstormi
@Lenandstormi 2 жыл бұрын
The seventh member is Morbius
@shartdart600
@shartdart600 2 жыл бұрын
He's a marvel legend!
@SnobbyBird_
@SnobbyBird_ 2 жыл бұрын
“It’s morbin’ time.” -Morbius, probably
@dorathedestroyer4081
@dorathedestroyer4081 2 жыл бұрын
im just still upset with Prof X and Wanda's fight scene. it could've been the most epic one on one fight scene in the entire MCU
@KarnageKhaos
@KarnageKhaos Жыл бұрын
An evil Ironman out for vengeance would make an awesome movie.
@Eli22clem
@Eli22clem 2 жыл бұрын
1st guess is Namor bc they haven't casted him yet.. BUT wouldn't it be cool if it was Tony Stark but during the "Demon in a Bottle" story so they don't want to mention him to anyone
@colerockman385
@colerockman385 2 жыл бұрын
the seat is 100% for Loki, cause Loki... enough said
@erikaz1590
@erikaz1590 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the last seat does go to Ironman. Even if Captain Carter is representing the Avengers, I'm pretty sure the Illuminati comics had both Ironman and Cap on the team at the same time once when Cap found them out. Even though they both represent Avengers, they kind of represent the opposite sides of the Avengers, with one representing tech and efficiency and the other representing morals and human nature. Or maybe 838 Ironman ISN'T an Avenger and maybe is part of a different team like SHIELD or AIM, therefore representing a different faction anyway. Perhaps because of differences in history, Howard Stark raised Tony differently and Tony had a different mindset and would join SHIELD or take Aldrich Killian up and fund AIM. This in turn changes Tony's 'suit or armor around the world' idea and so he doesn't create Ultron, or maybe the whole Ultron thing goes differently, and that's why the ultron bots are used in the facility, still maintained by Tony, who is probably doing stuff remotely and thus spared from the massacre.
@spongeman1512
@spongeman1512 2 жыл бұрын
Nahh.. it's Namor. Since there's universe underwater... Atlantis could be happening.
@vuyaningamlana8489
@vuyaningamlana8489 Жыл бұрын
The ladies they love Dr Strange maybe it his perform or his insane jokes😶‍🌫
@DesertCentipede
@DesertCentipede 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone here is asking why that last seat is there while i am wondering where the hell is GROOT ?
@bball90
@bball90 2 жыл бұрын
There was a rumor about Daniel Craig playing Balder the Brave for that final Illuminati spot, but he had to cancel due to Covid issues
@iamjackbanditgames
@iamjackbanditgames 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would have been cool if Killmonger was in the 7th seat
@TheMultiverseofSpidey
@TheMultiverseofSpidey 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope we see John Krasinski as Mr Fantastic again. Also hoping we will see Patrick Stewart again as Professor X but we will see.
@chaosmarklar
@chaosmarklar 2 жыл бұрын
Mordo, who has the timestone in 838 was not in the fight and survived to rewind 838 time bringing the illuminate back, mordo and Reed came up with the plan after viewing 14,000,603 possible outcomes
@kenriecooper2156
@kenriecooper2156 2 жыл бұрын
God I love your reviews that whole Ta'challa thing genius!!!!!!!
@davidwilkinson2234
@davidwilkinson2234 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw M.o.M. in the theater, when the credits started playing and it showed the illuminati chairs as the background I swore that there was a silhouette sitting in that chair, but by the time I realized it the background changed to the next scene. Probably was just my eyes playing tricks on me
@FortisOne
@FortisOne 2 жыл бұрын
I think it is Vision... But It baffles me that Paul Bettany didn't make an appearance in the film. He should have been prioritized over any of the Illuminati actors they had. It just does not make sense that White Vision which is just Infinity War Vision didn't stop Wanda. Almost makes me feel he did not want to be in the film behind the scenes.
@RJMM
@RJMM 2 жыл бұрын
Nah! Then Vision would stop the Scarlet Witch, and the movie would be called Vision in the Multiverse of Madness.
@eddiegreencheez
@eddiegreencheez 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think the 7th is Vision but I really thought that White Vision was gonna be a crucial part of the story and possibly the person behind Ultron and Sentries
@beanbun8395
@beanbun8395 2 жыл бұрын
I think vision (white vision) is going to follow the vision graphic novel storyline.
@MrDonniemac5
@MrDonniemac5 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Chadwick Boseman
@TheSuperTroller
@TheSuperTroller Жыл бұрын
Would be cool if it was the mutant spot, but Xavier makes a point about the building not being handicap friendly
@yungfella666
@yungfella666 2 жыл бұрын
Love how youtube has to give us context for the irl illuminati lol
@Christopher-dg9wb
@Christopher-dg9wb 2 жыл бұрын
How come you never mention Ghost Rider, he's the OG of Marvel, the Spirit of Vengeance aka Robbie Reyes would've crushed the Scarlet Witch!
@Jb15573
@Jb15573 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this, it’s a sign of respect to not replace him.
@RevsIT
@RevsIT Жыл бұрын
Personally I think the empty seat was a nod to Chadwick Boseman and a tribute to him though he could not be there. This also ties in to the Wakanda faction. Wakanda forever!
@akashafofo6939
@akashafofo6939 2 жыл бұрын
that ironman 2 illuminati application astonished me.
@fl0-st8darkmatter53
@fl0-st8darkmatter53 2 жыл бұрын
Balder the Brave, played by Daniel Craig, was supposed to be the 7th member
@321Thizzles
@321Thizzles 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i read/heard that too
@deadpooolandwolverinelpg24
@deadpooolandwolverinelpg24 2 жыл бұрын
@@321Thizzles no
@321Thizzles
@321Thizzles 2 жыл бұрын
@@deadpooolandwolverinelpg24 ....
@MtDuckford
@MtDuckford 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the empty seat was there because Prof. X was in his hover chair, and therefore just not using it. I felt they just had the chair in case where if he left, there would be a real seat for another person who is not bound to assisted movement.
@rizzzzzzzzzzzz
@rizzzzzzzzzzzz 2 жыл бұрын
i agree. also during production they probably put that in there to make the reveal more surprising.. with that chair it could've been anyone and the viewers would keep waiting. that's probably what the writers and producers kept discussing.. to put a chair for prof x or not 😆 like it's not that deep 👀
@Jedi_Spartan_38
@Jedi_Spartan_38 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the 838 Illuminati fired their universe's Hulk into space.
@rebeccanolan9623
@rebeccanolan9623 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Loki fan, it has to be Loki in that chair. LOL. This is going to be interesting for sure. The future looks bright.
@CalebJacobs762
@CalebJacobs762 2 жыл бұрын
The seventh mystery member is Tony Stark from another universe. A Variant. Superior Ironman.
@thatomanaka323
@thatomanaka323 2 жыл бұрын
Did feige tell u?
@CalebJacobs762
@CalebJacobs762 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatomanaka323 No. It just makes sense.
@xF3arl
@xF3arl 2 жыл бұрын
I think for the reasons listed in this video, the Avengers seat being filled by Peggy, the originator of this Illuminati being filled by Strange, the tech side being filled by Reed, it just doesn't make sense, especially if Pym in this universe made Ultron.
@CalebJacobs762
@CalebJacobs762 2 жыл бұрын
@@xF3arl What you just said makes absolutely no sense.
@xF3arl
@xF3arl 2 жыл бұрын
@@CalebJacobs762 So then the video didn't make sense for you? Because that's exactly what was stated in it.
@Amoooguuuss
@Amoooguuuss 2 жыл бұрын
It’s MORBIUS❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️
@thedullohanvids
@thedullohanvids 2 жыл бұрын
It's Professor X's seat but he prefers to bring his own. LOL.
@anish4651
@anish4651 Жыл бұрын
It would make sense it being wakanda because in the opening sequence showing tachala and shuri maybe hinting ?
@DewtheDew91
@DewtheDew91 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t be Tony. “What if” kinda made it clear that Tony was only relevant in 618.
@highflyerkb2419
@highflyerkb2419 2 жыл бұрын
you say that. the universe where he was with gamora he was fixing to craft a gauntlet
@xF3arl
@xF3arl 2 жыл бұрын
616, but I get you.
@macintheabyssmuzik2779
@macintheabyssmuzik2779 2 жыл бұрын
He Said”House Of Richards”😅 “Council Of Reeds”✅
@detroitdiezel7856
@detroitdiezel7856 2 жыл бұрын
Or "Bunch of Dicks"...
@Causaliti_
@Causaliti_ 2 жыл бұрын
Have y’all realized that Reed Richards uses the same teleportation technology as the TVA? Hinting the lineage between Kang and Reed
@Vivekraj-in8gq
@Vivekraj-in8gq 2 жыл бұрын
Ah shit didn't even think about that Good catch
@jasonrowlands5817
@jasonrowlands5817 2 жыл бұрын
What about the space in the middle where there is clearly room for another seat, judging by the spacing.
@thejworks07
@thejworks07 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Reed Invented those Sentries As they are guarding the Baxtet Buildng which was spoken by name
@Hadeks_Marow
@Hadeks_Marow 2 жыл бұрын
Wait what, baxter was mentioned?! Was it shown???
@ethankillion786
@ethankillion786 2 жыл бұрын
Writer Michael Waldron talks about the missing Illuminati member in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. Aside from continuing the MCU journey of Benedict Cumberbatch's sorcerer, the film also further builds the burgeoning Marvel multiverse through the introduction of Earth-838. The alternate reality allows Marvel Studios to debut its version of the Illuminati, but Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness hints that not everyone in the group is featured in the movie.
@summertyme5748
@summertyme5748 2 жыл бұрын
Waldron is responsible for this film being a complete mess. He disregards continuity out of arrogance and egotism. His self serving interviews remind me a lot of Zack Snyder.
@xF3arl
@xF3arl 2 жыл бұрын
@@summertyme5748 Oh do go on about what continuity he disregards. I'd love to hear this.
@chulo201
@chulo201 Жыл бұрын
I would say that the last chair belongs to Jean Grey/phoenix since the power of the phoenix not only destroys but can also rebuild
@brodysorrell9769
@brodysorrell9769 2 жыл бұрын
I think you've absolutely NAILED it on the head.
@mysticalmonkey1041
@mysticalmonkey1041 Жыл бұрын
What if it’s just Charles Xaviers chair and he just can’t sit on it becus he is disabled
@Xylord79
@Xylord79 2 жыл бұрын
I just assumed the 7th chair belonged to the 838 Strange since he founded the group. Seems like leaving the chair open is something they would do to honor him since they considered him a friend.
@_neon-xeon_3966
@_neon-xeon_3966 2 жыл бұрын
I think its Barder the Brave played by Daniel Craig, they said he was cut but was intented to be in the movie at first
@MsWillowbayOrelse
@MsWillowbayOrelse 2 жыл бұрын
I find that we get an Illuminati fact bar on this video hilarious!!
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