Grahams face when he realizes hes the white man that has to stand so Rosa is kicked out, just hurts me. He feels so guilty and you can see it, such a good performance from him.

The best part is the look of anguish on Graham's face when he realizes that HE is the reason the driver told Rosa to give up her seat

The episode was filmed in Cape Town, South Africa.

Yeah, this is only the second time in well over 800 episodes that the Doctor Who theme doesn't play through the end credits. The first time was in _Earthshock_ part 4 (1982) in which the end credits were completely silent. On that occasion it was due to the shock ending with the second ever companion death.

"What is he a time racist?!" Yep 😂

The music is different because it’s a different Composer

"Perhaps he killed a Time-Agent and took it from him" "No-one could kill a Time-Agent" That was slick you guys

yes Calvin! This season felt very like Classic Who to me because it's less about the Doctor and companion(s), but about the situation they're in.

'Rosa' was definitely one of the high points of Series 11. The themes and messages were handled in a mature way and that powerful ending still delivers every time.

And this here is why I love Blind Wave. While other people on the internet cried and bitched and whine about "weh weh IT'S TOO PC!", these guys actually appreciated it for what it was and were *glad* the subject was addressed.

It's mad just thinking that MLK's Selma marches took place two years after Doctor Who started

Demons of the punjab is my favourite episode of this season but Rosa is probably second, I'm glad Timeless got a shoutout it's great.

SUCH A GREAT REACTION! I knew they were gonna have fun with this era. They're gonna have fun joking around and discussing these stand-alone stories, and then they're gonna flip their shit when Spyfall starts smacking them in the face with things from the past. Also from their reaction to this episode I can tell they're going to love "Demons of the Punjab" and "The Witchfinders" which is great cause the historical episodes of this season were my favorite as well

"18 minutes is a REALLY long time" Have you met the American bus system?

I'm really excited just to see their reaction to the Time Vortex next week. It's only like 10-15 seconds but it's so beautiful and cool to look at.

There is NO excuse for racism. The way this story faced it head-on was admirable and by the best in series 11. We should never forget what Rosa Park and Dr Martin Luther King did.

Aaron: we also had a race thing going on! Doctor Who: you like race things?

When I learned the subject matter of this episode, I was very nervous. Would Dr. Who play around with the history, would they rob Rosa of her agency? Now that I know they did things right, I can relax and enjoy the episode. I would also say that while I am gratified the Blind Wave guys were horrified by the way people treated and spoke to people of color in this episode, I have a feeling the language in this episode was actually toned down a bit. You wouldn't have an angry white man or an annoyed waitress in that place and time saying "negro" or "colored" or "Mexican"... they'd be using a different N word or other stronger pejoratives.

Great episode. I love when they do historical type ones and educate the viewer much like the original intention of Doctor Who was back when it started (before it quickly became more about the monsters, which is fine too). :)

I just discovered your channel and I love it. Unlike a lot of reaction channels you actually put so much effort and time into your thoughts and opinions at the end. Especially cos you all take notes and do a little research etc. Its basically talkshow it's great!

I'm glad you're all enjoying this season so far and its characters :) It's refreshing to see people react genuinely and without prejudice. When this season aired, so many people I know were angry and no one was willing to discuss like adults or accept the fact that the Doctor is now a woman. This season is in no way my favorite, but I love Jodie as the Doctor. And I'm sooo excited to see you all react to season 12, which is now one of my favorite seasons ever! It's been an amazing Doctor Who journey with you all :)

Graham is one of my all-time favorite companions on Who. He's genuinely just a good human being. Broke my heart when he realized he had to be part of the problem.

6:37 I too would like have seen a non-bigoted white person. The "villain" of the episode was the institutional, societal racism, which everybody in society participated in, but it would have been nice to see just one person who didn't relish it. It would have been quite easy for the waitress to have delivered her lines differently. "We don't serve Negroes. Or Mexicans." could have been delivered apologetically, sympathetically or matter-of-factly. It didn't need to be done spitefully.

In my opinion, this is one of the best episodes of the entire show.

LOVE this episode, I really like it how they stuck with history and never fooled about with it like Shane says like they did with Martha and bill, I really think Shane will love this series sounds like it's up his ally.

Classic Who: The Aztecs! Back when Who did pure historicals. That’s a classic ep worth seeing

A great episode! Grahams reaction in the bus. What a great, sad moment. Just love it!

Tackling racism in contemporary times can be overt and believable too, trust me

This episode which aired in the UK during British black history month in October! I loved the episode and the music at the end!

“Oh! Oh, it worked. Nice one, Ryan. Thanks, Ryan..”

The thought I always had was when he said, "your kind" he meant all of humanity in relation to the rest of the galaxy in the time he is from.

I love that final shot of the fam in the TARDIS entrance. It's one of the most beautiful ending shots in all of Who. The reason why Rosa Parks is an asteroid, & not a comet, because asteroids don't move. They stay where they are, just like Rosa did. It's also really heartbreaking that Graham is the man who makes Rosa move. Even though they had to, it still hurts him.

Loved this episode and the demons of the Punjab episode

Honestly this was such an amazing episode. True the pop song at the end was a little too cheesy but it was still effective. This episode sincerely made me proud of doctor who....no one let them watch the next one

This season has it’s high points, but I can’t wait for them to get to season 12!

Did you guys notice that the woman playing Rosa is the same actress who played Police Sgt Sally Donovan in Sherlock?

I'm really happy to see everyone enjoy what this episode does. The season is very different but there's nothing wrong with that, and sometimes you might even enjoy it more than what you previously had which seems to be the case with Shane, at least on this one. And like Calvin says at 24:44 this feels very Classic Who, and trying to pretend that this is new territory for the show is, I think, lowkey disrespectful to its history. And being dismissive of what it's telling you is also disrespectful to history in general, even. VERY excited to see them get to Episode 6 now.

"Goddamn neuro-restricter he wants to kill so bad.....i get it!" LOL Shane omg 😂

"It's like my dad getting up to beat me." Damn, Shane. lol

Shane “its like timeless” exactly what I said when this first aired 😂

I love all your videos, guys. I discovered this channel only a few weeks ago and I've literally it watched anything else, but Blind Wave. So, far I've made it through all your Avatar reactions (Aang and Korra), One Punch Man, FMA brotherhood, My Hero Academia, Dragon Ball Super, Attack on Titan, Doctor who (everything so far), Game of Thrones, and half of Torchbearer academy. The content is awesome, keep it up my guys. P. S. If you want another good show to watch, I'd suggest The Magicians from SyFy

Eric casually predicting series 12 is killing me

I feel like they misused Rosa Parks in this episode. They played it like her protest was a matter of circumstance as opposed to the careful months of planning and resilience. And Krasko is such a nothing villain, nothing that connects him to Rosa Parks in any significant way. Eg, Vincent and the Doctor had an alien that only Vincent could see, playing into his mental health issues and his position as an outsider in the community. Dickens had ghosts, Christie had a murder mystery, Shakespeare had witches with the power of words. Rosa Parks had... Just a racist guy. Would have been nice to see an opponent more thematically relevant to her specifically than just some guy.

My headcannon for Krasco's motive for stopping Rosa is that the asteroid named after her is where Stormgate prison was built.

This episode was the second time the end credits didn't have the theme tune. The first time was in Earthsock (1982) which had silent credits following the death of companion Adric.

Martha got a lot of racism in "Family of Blood"

I'm glad they're enjoying the series so far.

The events of Rosa was filmed somewhere in South Africa.

Josh Bowman, who plays the villain, is basically doing another take on his role as Jack the Ripper from the short-lived TV adaptation of Time After Time. As one of the apparently very few people who actually watched that show, that was a lot of fun to see. It's awesome to see the show portray racism as a pervasive, insidious force that infects all of society, rather than just the product of a few bad apples that all too many writers are still willing to blame it on.

"we need to get captain jack here" lol

Man, I miss Capaldi😭

Eric:Racism has been handled... Doctor:or has it.

4:50 The actor playing the policeman, Gareth Marks, played Arny Goldenstein in the ill-conceived 1990 British sitcom, "Heil Honey, I'm Home!". Believe it or not, the show was about a New York Jewish couple (the Goldensteins) living in an apartment next door to Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun. With a supporting cast featuring Hermann Goering, Stalin and Reinhard Heydrich (architect of the Holocaust), it was unsurprisingly cancelled after only one episode.

Love him or hate him, Chibs knows how to do historicals.

I'm only 5 minutes into the video but i love how Eric is so charmed by thirteen. every single one of her quips just makes him grin and it's so fun to watch Edit: i loved the discussion this week! sometimes i get bored and don't finish watching the discussion but this week i really liked what you guys had to say

Possibly been mentioned, but in reality, the intro scene with Rosa happened on a rainy day. Given the catastrophic water shortage going on in Capetown (where it was filmed), they weren't able to use rain machines when filming.

I really look forward to your Demons of the Punjab reaction, best episode of the season IMO and in my top 5 ever

I like when the Doctor stood by and did nothing while that racist guy basically assaulted her companion. Let’s see. What did the Doctor do when the same thing happened last season? Oh right. He defended Bill, and punched the guy in the face.

Rosa Parks was born in 1913, she would have been a little girl during WW1 a teenager during the great depression and an adult by the time WW2 happened. She saw racial tension rise in the soul and was one of the few civil rights leaders who lived long enough to see it get better. Infact she lived 92 years, dying in 2005 one year after I was born. If she was alive today she would be 110 years old.

Welcome to history channel sci-fi edition.

TIMELESS! yes Shane this episode was very much like Timeless. that show was pretty good. funny how it got cancelled twice

As a stand alone episode, this is brilliant! 👏 I keep returning to this, with tears in my eyes and a feeling that the history keeps repeating itself. Such a great episode!

A powerful episode. Great thoughts lads. Unbelievable that the subject matter is still relevant in 2020. But then, so are the heroes. Bill had verbal racism once, and the doctor punched him out. Martha endured it for 6months, battling aliens to keep human doctor safe.. and he didn't defend her at all. Just knowing that, and she retained her compassion - is remarkable.

The music is now by Akinola instead of Murray Gold! Hope you enjoy series 11, pretty mixed with fans. Loved the reference from Eric and the feelings about the new intro. And yeah this episode deals with some heavy themes in a very direct way which suits the episode. Rosa Parks showing up was nice. And damn Ryan. And Jodie's era films more globally. This episode was mostly historical. Glad you all enjoyed this episode!

As someone that grew up in Alabama. This episode makes me cry. Just so disappointed in my home state, but so proud of how far the world has come. Like Ryan says. Its not perfect. But it's a lot better.

Not to take away from Parks legacy, but look up Claudette Colvin. She was the first African American to refuse to give up her seat but for some reason history tends to look past her. Maybe because she was 15 and pregnant at the time and wouldn't fit as a good poster child for the cause?

3:10 reminds me of that very funny scene in 'The Two Doctors ' when Shockeye asks Oscar Botcherby if they serve Humans here

Personally, while I think they handled the setting and Rosa herself very well, I still think the plot point of "Racist from Thousands of Years in the future comes back to stop Rosa Park from taking a stand against segregation in order to prevent equality and civil rights from happening" is dumb as hell. That racism still exists that far in the future is one thing, and I have no problem believing that honestly. The thing that I find dumb, though, is: A) The implication that, somehow, without Rosa Parks doing exactly what she did, exactly when she did it, in exactly the way history tells us she did, the Civil Rights movement just... doesn't happen. Like all the other leaders and every other black person in America just kinda gives up? It's ridiculous (Rosa wasn't even the first black woman to refuse to give up her seat for goodness sakes!), and it plays into this idea of "History Has to play out EXACTLY like the history books say it did otherwise it won't work", which I feel like is exactly the opposite of how Doctor Who usually handles historical events. B) Even if stopping Rosa somehow DID prevent the Civil Rights movement, or slowed it down by a significant amount of time, would that really make a difference to racial rights thousands of years in the future? That's like if the Confederates invented a time machine, and decided to go back to the 6th Century BC in order to stop Cyrus the Great from freeing the slaves in Persia, because they thought that would somehow prevent the Emancipation Proclamation. Why would this Krasko guy go back so far into the past? He wanted to prevent equal rights thousands of years into the future, but instead of going to some place or time that would make sense to HIM, and people in HIS time period, he instead came aaaall the way back to a period that made sense to us, the audience. Why even have him be from so far in the future, then? C) Krasko having a restrictor chip which inhibits him from killing anyone but DOESN'T inhibit him from travelling through time and intentionally doing harm to an entire race of people just seems like a stupidly contrarian plot element thrown in to explain why he wouldn't just kill Rosa (even though it does nothing to explain why he wouldn't just give the Vortex manipulator to someone else who COULD kill her, unless Krasko is literally the only racist left in the future). On top of that, he says the reason he went to jail in the first place was for a crime that killed 2,000 people, so how the Hell was he ever legally released with nothing but a "You cannot DIRECTLY kill people" chip implanted in his head? Just how generous is criminal justice system in the future that 2,000 murders still lets you get out on parole?

13's era does have a lot of callbacks to Classic Who, with the 3 companions and the more historical focus to some episodes. What's unfortunate though is that, despite the larger cast, the run times are still the same length, so most of the episodes don't have the time to give them all something to do, and it takes a lot longer to warm up to both the Doctor and the companions, since we don't get to know them as quickly. Classic Who had MUCH longer run times to work with, so companions all usually had something to do, although many were still underdeveloped.

I was wondering if maybe later on that you guys could react to Dracula on Netflix?. It’s by Steven Moffat & Mark Gatiss and it’s 3 90 minute episodes . I think you guys may really enjoy it !!.

Thanks, Eric! Thanks, Shane! Thanks, Calvin! Thanks, Aaron! ⏳

Loved this episode.

A couple of things, and I’m sure others have pointed them out. Firstly, the episode of filmed in Cape Town in South Africa, and the music is very different this season because the show got a new composer. Murray Gold left the show after 13 years and Segun Akinola took over with this season. I like both of their work on the show, but I’ve got a soft spot for Gold’s music, seeing as I basically grew up with it. Akinola is doing a good job, though.

Two of The Greatest episodes of Doctor Who in the next two weeks

Today-December 1st, 2020-marks 65 years since this happened.

I understand that a lot of people like this episode, and on its own it's a good episode, but I feel like it didn't do *enough* . When watching this episode live, I was basically live-tweeting it to a friend and when I mentioned that it was about Rosa Parks, she informed me of an earlier girl (Claudette Coleen) who'd done the same thing, and was basically erased from history books because she was too young to be used as the face of a movement. I feel like instead of the time racist, they could've had a subplot involving Claudette's story and giving her retroactive credit for what people say Rosa did. Rosa was essentially a half-scripted recreation of what happened to Claudette, and it could've been interesting to have the team see that and be part of the script. The pieces are already there, since they're already doing everything to make sure all the events - a full bus, specific driver, etc. - properly play out.

Such a great episode I love this one a lot

why is the ghost monument commentary not in the playlist?

Apparently this was filmed in South Africa

I think Krasko's comment "So you people don't get ideas above your station" (or whatever it was) can be taken two ways. Yes, he might be an out-and-out racist. But he might hate what humans have done in the future and wants to hinder development of the whole human race, which is probably more what an evil time traveller would want to do.

Honestly would have loved The Weeping Angels in this episode tbh or perhaps the silence/silent instead of that villain

Wait... Shane watches Timeless?! Yes!!! Shame it got canceled though...

Everything feels different and I don't feel like it's Doctor Who, but I was pleasantly surprised by a lot of things this episode. The face of Graham when he realizes what's about to happen was actually powerful :(

The writers drop the Yaz ball a lot, unfortunately. It's become a bit of a running joke in the Who communities I pop in on "And Yaz was there too."

yh i remember when this episode came out quality and rosa story was inspiring

I wish I liked this episode. It's so many good ideas wrapped up in a sub par package that just gets on my nerves because I SHOULD love it!

I wish you guys could just react to the current series because it’s so good and miles ahead of the season you’re watching at the moment

Isn't Timeless that ripoff of the Spanish TV show El ministerio del tiempo? The one that got demanded for plagiarism? If it's that one, I'm glad it got cancelled

What happened to the Ghost Monument episode watch through?

Are you guys gonna bring back the videos that have been taken down? Like re-edited versions so they don't get copyrighted?

Best episode of series 11 by far

Little trivia for you guys, some of you watch Sherlock same actress who played Rosa was the same in first two season of Sherlock, played the Detective who did not like him.

Did you recognise Rosa from Sherlock. She was the detective who that thought Sherlock was a fake.

This was a very great episode! And what a great reaction and review 👏👏👏👏👏

Did you guys recognise hated Sergeant Sally Donovan (Sherlock)?

My only problem with the episode is I wish they'd given us more background on the baddie. I wonder though if he wanted to take down the civil right movement, well MLK was right there in town.

Alright let's jump to series 12! Seriously thou this episode tackled racism better than any past episode of Who.

This is a pretty good episode imo . The themes and subject matter are well handled imo and I agree with Calvin in that this series ( and Chibnall’s era so far) feels more closer to Classic Who then any of the Modern stuff so far . It’s more subdued and has an educational bent to it at times I also enjoy the cat and mouse stuff between the Tardis Team and Krasko ( who imo is the best villain of the series which isn’t saying much sadly) , I just found the actor to be charismatic and enjoyable. The chemistry and banter between our team is strong too!!.

The ending is just cringy, with the pop-song and literal history lesson. The villain is also poorly developed, as he has literally no characteristics except racism. The rest of the epsiode was okay. Hey, if anyone's interested, I'm reviewing all the Doctor Who stories on my channel, with me just having uploaded my review of: 'Planet of the Spiders (1974)!' No pressure, of-course; It just might be worth checking out! :)

20:49 nice reference with great choice of words xP