Yep.

I get it.

I say the same - the fact that I need to breathe in and out - just brings out the worst hate.

Stay strong people I also have a narcissistic sister who has cause me so much pain I cut ties with her

Me too! Much love to you ❤️❤️ I no longer play.

unless it's the "truth" they want to hear.

Only other truth tellers will understand.

I'm not scared to confront them narcs they get mad when I challenge their behavior oh well!

Agree. I play this role, and you only get contempt or fear.

Amen to that.

True!

Starting to realize this unfortunately

@@gmacc201 just be prepared when you do go no contact, you will receive a verbal smear campaign like never before. It’s insane what my own mother and family has said about me .

That is exactly what I did. Absolutely NO contact with my brother. Unfortunately other members of the family will inevitably "have their opinions" enmeshed with my decision. And it will ruin whatever good connections one has with any other member of the family. I said GOOD BYE, I don't need this in my life. And the result is that I have no support system. I have some friends, but they have their healthy family, which is a top priority in most people's lives. And they do not understand why I do not want mine.

@@user-mh7vn8cm6n I completely agree. Happy for your decision and strength to follow through. I went NC with my mom and brother . Therefore most of the family has very little to do with me. One thing I’ve learned from NC is , what did I see in them before? They are all so enmeshed and do nothing but gossip about everyone in and out of the family . They disgust me now, honestly. Blessings to you.

We are the brave ones, who stick to our convictions.

Are all bullies narcissist?

@@cynthiaestrada8318 No.

Yes!! But what a painful spot to be in at times!

Whoot whoot ! Over here girl!! 🥂

🤷💗🌺

both

Thank you x

Thank you, it was tough, very...xxx🌷💕🌷

Word.

STORY OF MY LIFE

Oh my gosh!!! Yes!

I am just figuring this out after 50 years.

@@andersen6422 me too. You are not alone. 🤍

Yes

Yes I hear you I've got two of them that tried tag team on me , no contact for me.

@@Deej-er9ts That no contact feels amazing! I have a sister who is Narcissistic…she has everyone fooled and made people think I was the problem.😳

100%!

@@AN-fg4cd - same - only for me, it’s parents other offspring, a boy 4 yrs older than me.

It's been 11 years now for me. They really leave you no other choice. I've had to learn to think of my sister as dead, even though she lives a few counties away. I just can't have her insanity in my life.

@@Miniver765 My sister lives an hour away. Her health isn't good due to her lifestyle. They will probably call me when she passes. I'm planning to stay away.

@@treeartist9705 That's probably best. You can still mourn her, but mourn for the person she could have been if she hadn't chosen such a destructive path in life. That's what I've had to do with my sister.

Hi! Can I ask how it was dealing with shared friends and community?😢

@@RuciMatalau she has few if any friends and I didn't share them. She lives an hour away, so no shared community. She has bounced around all her life without serious ties.

It most likely saved mine as well.

And I clap for you. Because it takes a warrior to walk away. I'm so glad that you did and I hope you are doing better. ❤

I did it too. However my narc 24:23 brother has been stalking on me and bad mouth about me still. I just ignore him. Luckily we are far away from each other physically. I don’t allow him to harm me. Thank you Dr for posting these wonderful videos - that is my healing!

It's so hard

Year #4 for me. I am happier by myself than I was with my narc sister's judgemental attitude. She is a sick person.

Same here - made mistake of 2nd chances repeatedly. Planning to go No Contact with all - have to for own Health and Safety. Both Narc Parents have kept their jealousy and envy, and use the siblings to do the dirty work. The Golden Child initially did the Flying Monkey role and now become a Narcissist himself - out fox both his Parents. The Narcs did not like I stopped doing the Handmaid role but being Scapegoat on its own is brutal.

Same! Wow! Mine didn’t almost kill me physically, they just keep reframing every story in ways that make me seem like a horrible person. They retell stories from our past and make me out to be a monster. No one else in my life sees me in such a negative light, it’s heartbreaking.

I view it as more of a cult, than a gang- but yeah. Very relatable.

@@lovelylauriestorlie Hello - I still get that so much. The Narcs and the Siblings will twist the truth on so much to mess the mind up. Collectively do the gaslighting, invalidation etc. Outside the house I too get so many nice compliments for my heart. I keep a speech of I have my enemies behind my back and not in front of me.

you're telling my story sister! :)

I'm sorry you have to deal with that. We all deserve families who treat us with empathy and respect.

Sounds exactly like some of my siblings.

OMG! Yes 1000 times!! My sister is so narcissistic, she claims her husband, and sons are narcissist BUT not her. Now that's some deep rooted BS that will never change. Best option: keep away!

Do yalls sister also declare herself an empath? Especially to win an argument? And can’t forget my fav enabler quote “just let it roll off your shoulder” oof sage wisdom. Sorry you had to experience that, narc sisters are something else. Hopefully sis can let the gray rock roll off her shoulders

My sister is the very same she is abusive but tells her family I am the bad one. She idolises her husband and daughters, but uses me as an emotional punch bag. I was so co dependent it’s been a living hell. I’m now going to a counsellor who’s helping me heal the trauma and grief. Blessing to you and everyone going through this it’s terrible.

I feel this so deeply ❤ it took me 42 years to say enough to my narcissistic alcoholic sister 💔 and sadly along with her my 10yr old Neice 😭 This is the hardest thing I've ever had to do..my heart is broken 💔 I'm completely alone now..my father died at 56 of a heart attack caused by his alcoholism and my mother is in a cult and abused us viciously as children so we haven't seen her for almost 20 years! She was all I had..and because of that she knew she could abuse me and thought I'd never leave her. She also thought I'd never leave because of my neice..and used her to keep me in her abusive toxic nightmare. And she was right! I did stay for my neice..even when my sister told me she kissed my ex fiancé when I was with him! Yes I was upset! But my sister didn't care and wouldn't take any accountability so I had to just accept it and try to push forward and I did it for my neice! But just recently her husband devorced her because of her alcoholism. she then was homeless!..I took her and my neice in off the street and to repay me for that? my sister drank until blackout everyday..hit me, verbally abused me, then would love bomb me and then go back to being disrespectful, nasty and out of control drunk. Then when I finally said enough!! And told her to get out? She refused to leave! Squatting in half of my home for months and during that time clogged her toilet with urine soaked toilet paper and feices! She trashed the room she was in! She urinated on the floor and in the shower! And then told me that my husband tried to have sex with her IN FRONT OF MY NEICE!! My husband would N E V E R! I don't even need to ask him that's how much I trust my man! He's an amazing person! This poor man put up with so much of her nasty disrespectful behaviour and countless attempts to seduce him!!it's crazy! I of course screamed at her to get out of my home and life! And she then said to my neice "didn't uncle mal kiss mummy!?" And my poor 10yo neice looked at me with such sadness in her eyes and nodded yes.. THAT WAS IT! I was done with her...40 years I was a loyal sister and Aunty! I've put up with so much but I draw the line at using a 10yo in adult situations. Pure EVIL! to involve a child in trying to break up her auntys relationship!? Its sick! We have a son...she didn't care! She was so pissed off that I had the audacity to kick her out that she wanted to destroy my life my relationship and my home..and in turn my sons life. I love my neice ❤ and I always will but I had to do what was right for me and my family.. Sadly my sister began to poison my neice against me anyway so there's nothing I can do now..I was the best Aunty to her..I loved her and we had some beautiful memories together ❤ I just hope she remembers them when her mum says awful things about me :( It's been 4 months with no contact and it's so hard! I'm morning them..its like they died in a car crash or something..they're gone so fast and I'm struggling. but I know this is what I need to do..as you said I want to be the change in my family! Also I was actually getting physically sick being near her! I'd get stomach cramps and pains that have completely disappeared since I went no contact. Stay strong my friend ❤️ its not easy..God bless you x

I'm 65. It's never too late. I wrote a comment above so I won't repeat it here. You are a brave soul. I hope you find peace in your decision. I also hope you have one or more loving souls around you who see, hear and validate you for the human being you are! It's quite the journey.

Thanks for the encouraging words. I’m wishing you all the best too!

Excellent work!

Amen to major implications with trusts. After trying to settle affairs after my mother's death...I finally figured out what I was dealing with(a narcissistic brother) it took me 61 years. Thank you so much for validating this. Almost everything you said applied to me. He always had to win at monopoly.

Agree. I have three sisters and two npd parents. I sometimes stay away from gatherings just so they can't push me onto the bottom of the pile. I'm the dreaded truth teller. But I'm proud of it!

Truth!

Their one of those "charity" lotteries where your expected to be charitable to the cause and thinking you can win something is socially unacceptable because we were in it for the charity to begin with. The charity cause being the narcissist themselves of course. There's this saying in casino's, "the bank always wins".

Dr R has the best metaphors, 😂

And it's still not a win. It's just not a constant war.

Me too. So glad I was born perceptive and a realist.

My brother is interfering with my work and skills I can't even have financial independence.. It sucks..

I agree, yet I include my whole family other than my children. I could not heal until I was able to do this. They are the definition of evil.

It was so hard for me too. Took me 8 years to finally do this. I feel so free as way better. Kuddos to u all who did this to help yourself.

Was away for 23 years. Recently saw my parents thru hospice. Sibling is much older so memories are few. The relief of leaving again is so profound! I felt in physical danger and utterly cowed.

Hugs.

I miss my little sister too. It's so sad. But I saw what she was doing to others, and it devastated me. Fortunately I was warned by her "sugar daddy" before he died in 2020. So, I put up boundaries to protect myself and my money because she totally financially destroyed him. Took me another 4 years, until I had to go no contact.

❤❤❤❤❤❤

Thank you.

I agree no contact. Later one can forgive but not have any relationship. It is liberating but first cognitive dissonance dominates. Withdrawls. But laughter takes time again. Trust or even self love is difficult. Keep going through the growing.

Thank you

Absolutely

And the wonderful things is that us scapegoats are very independent, we had to be. it's something which the rest of them can never be. I can live anywhere in the world and thrive- none of them can do that :)

Yup, i sure found that out.

I was the truthteller .. once the golden child - I became the scapegoat.. DADDY THROWS ME IN THE AIR.. memoir/self-help

Understand what you are saying

Not even with proof, I get yelled at until I reveal proof and then they say o well you know how she is... ugh.

God does🙏🏿💯

Now I don't need to describe my family, you did it for me. Just one addition, I vomited my rage once, and they called the police and put me in a psychiatric hospital without my consent. 10 years later they still play the victim whenever I discuss this story (I ve gone low contact), because it s very traumatic for them and I am very mean and inconsiderate of their feelings for bringing that up. To this day I am still struggling with psychiatric drug induced parkinsonism and other neurological and psychological issues, the trauma of being forced to psychiatric "treatment" and of being labelled as mad being very deep, but now I know who s crazy and who s not.

You described my hellhole of a home that I grew up in to the letter with the exception of my dad being an alcoholic. I remember wanting to run away when I was around 5,6 years old because it was that bad.

This is my exact life. I just told my therapist today ….WHEN WILL IT END. Cut offs, boundaries, slow fades, grey rocking …..they are RELENTLESS all in the pursuit of being perceived as the opposite of the demons they are. if I’m this terrible crazy person you all make me out to be WHY WONT YOU GO AWAY !!!!!!

@@mac0219 we need lots and lots and lots of rest, permission to our body to rest and get masterful in tai chi, to do all that you re describing with grace and minimum effort, as if war was a beautiful dance. Sending you love and courage💪❤️

Sounds like mine

I'm correctly breaking free did you find it hard. Ì find it difficult.

@@1111sage well my ex was a covert narcissist and did a lot of entitled and petty subversive damage . So I’m just lucky to be alive. I’m pretty much a hermit. Yes it was difficult. The shock of who they are had to become a reality. Then I accepted loads of people are just not nice. And this is my life now. It’s hard to change but I think I chose the safest life I could think of.

Same. it's been 7 years into counting. I seldom every now and again come back to these videos to get a little encouragement because my mind Wonders a lot about the " what could have beens.". (That fantasy of a relationship that I once-over longed for ). But knowing still that it is what it is . But yet now I'm finding myself thinking much more about them through life right now. Which is unusual for me because I know who they are and usually I'm not like this at all. But yet and still I know I'm on the Right path and The Most High God is 😊 1 awesome God 😎💯!

@@1111sage 1 year no contact for me. Feels amazing! She (my sister) still calls, leave messages, and sends flying monkeys. I just find more ways to protect myself and my peace. You will get used to it once you are finally tired. I left quietly and suggest you do the same. Never go back…it could be your life.

I tried to get away and failed. Consequently, I paid with my life. They stole everything from me. I didn't realize what the problem was till soon late

I have had to do much the same. Good to know I’m not alone.

You can pick your friends but you can't pick your family but that's not to say you have to put up with them.

I wish I had done the same but I didn't know. I tried 2 times to walk away and for different reasons I had to go back. I only succeeded in my 3rd attempt. And even then I kept contact because I thought distance was enough. It wasn't, never was but I didn't know. Had I known what I know now I would have never contacted them again. For me, knowledge came too late in life. They were already dead when I found out. I wish I would have known earlier in life just to try to salvage something. It came too late.

I wish I'd left when I was made aware of how different I was... it been 60 years! Never too late i plan to enjoy the rest of my life without the blood sucking, needy, lecherous, self-absorbed cruel hearted things I called family!

That’s Gold ! 👍😂

Nailed it!

Whoo boy, yeah.

Yes that’s true I am in the pissed off stage right now because the more I think about this person in all the damage she does I get frustrated and pissed. Not good for my health so I try my hardest not to be that way.

@@monicahughes2757 I'm going through this too, pretty much exactly as you described.

Yes it sure is! Its traumatizing to experience the insane abuse

It's so horrible. The people who literally share your blood, who are supposed to be there for you, will be your biggest source of agony. You will love them forever while walking away and they will treat you like the villain, saying you don't love them when that's the furthest thing from the truth. It's the most heartbreaking shit.

My sister is a Narc and horrible! I'm so glad I finally withdrew from her toxicity. She now plays the victim role to my own daughter. She also tried to triangulate my daughter against me!

I wouldn't go so far as to say it's worse, because I've experienced both. With a narcissistic relationship if you're able to get out, it's easier to stay disconnected, you can't really do that successfully in a narcissistic family

It is. You can't leave, you can't forget, you can't win.

It's like Thermonuclear Warfare.

It's only taken A lifetime to learn this. However, its never too late to 'get a life.'

The only way is No contact!

@@salliegallegos918 yup.

@@salliegallegos918 yup.

You're not alone :)

God and I love you!

YES. Me, too... read if you can find it?.. my post online here. I think no one talks about it because there is a basic "taboo" against talking about a brother and sister relationship... It is never shown in movies... (and i was a professional reader of movie scripts, read 1,000 of them. Never saw this, as a theme in any script i ever read ). I hope there is more said about this.... love, karin

@@kmoon50 i was unable to find it. Of course as I was scrolling in search of it i kept getting engrossed in reading all the comments and personal stories. It is so validating to watch this explained. And hear others similar insane experiences. The gaslighting on top of the other abuse leaves me sometimes questioning myself. But it really is "real". Sadly. But truth helps.

Me too

Yes,thats how i feel! A year ago i was still clueless about thismstuff. Im starting to heal at last, nearly 60...so much life i missed ...

@@kmoon50 Finally found it! Boy is this a long thread. I think you should write a script. Certainly a lot of interest. One of my worst was a brother, too.

that was a good 1

Thank you for the reminder.

THANK YOU! This was freeing!

My husband refers to my practice of this as "throwing the Monopoly board"

I was just thinking about this. looking back I can see my brother maybe displaying some traits that were shown by my parents who have narcissistic tendencies, but I never thought it’d get this far. 🥲 it’s almost like I don’t know him anymore & it’s hurts.

Well said.

Absolutely, and shame on them. Could you imagine actually telling them that in a healing way? It'll never fly!!

Wow,that's spot on!

Sad, but true.

Au, that one hit me... so true!!

Yes!,,

Definitely

That speaks to me so much!!

Right, I'm rounding 40. We have to learn it's to the grave! 😖

I'm 61 and just decided enough is enough. No more of being told what to do and when to do it. Freedom....

Same

Same here

Same here. She’s poison

My sister was the one who thought she was the "Golden child". She thought she was the head of our family even at a young age. She tormented my parents. My Mom was so intimidated by her she would go along with her so as not to have my sib go into a tirade. My younger sister God Bless her she died at age 20, was scared to death of her. She and I were very close. I was the "sandwich baby" and a few months ago one of her nasty letters said "remember you're the baloney between the French bread". actually my Dad loved baloney sandwiches on white bread 😁and we were very close until he passed. 🙏

She's not the Golden Child you are for putting up with her.

Me too!

Oh yes - My sister made my life miserable from about age seven😥

Oh Wow !! Serious. Kids know !!!

Me too! Fearing my brother is an early memory ...used to hide in my closet!

same ! She actually kept tapping my forehead until I cried.

Exactly! And, there is extended family to consider, too.

I've decided to walk away. After their behavior at my son's graduation ceremony from the university, it was the last straw my mom included.

My narc sibling studied psychology and told me herself (almost proudly) that she knows she is a narcissist.

I think they go into league with the devil..am sure they don’t realize it tho..but everybody else does

Yes, sir. In the end, it's all that I could do.

@@i.m.hidden2788 now thats heavy. She's fully committed to being perverse. Sorry

Experienced this to the T

Eeyup.

so true, i remember as kids there was always 1 or 2 of the 3 of us boys who was the black sheep of the day. now its me for life because i had to cut my mom off, feels good because ive tried waking them up to simple character defects and it never works (nevermind the greater impiications of how society creates these mindsets)

Every time I talk to my mom, she backghands my sis with whatever she has to say- I learned that if I bite, she turns it around on me and gets her mad at me.

Willing? Oh you're 1) in a good mood 2) super optimistic 3) haven't dealt with my family!

I completely agree

He's not going to change

Same here, most therapists are just incompetent.

@@keligbo6849 Not incompetent, just don't specialize in it... those who do, get it

Both my therapists told me my family was toxic

Yes, “toxic” and “dysfunctional” have been more popular terms.

My truth in this moment ugghhh

So true

They're telling everybody I ma habitual pathological liar, I now own five recording devices.

You become the lamp holder .. then they will try to break your lamp too.. .don't be angry.feel sorry for them but don't sleep next to them..they wud throw u under the bus even when u be asleep. You win..if you never be or become like them..

Me too! Wish they would shut it.

@@marthabenner6528 good on you!

I'm living this now my mum's lawyer has said "your mum isn't even dead yet" , I've been kicked to the curb multiple times the world owes these people everything 2 x narsisters. No contact for me.

I watched this in action. Family members plot how they would rob siblings of their inheritance, before the parent even died. I never knew people could be so evil.

Anyone who believes their lies is not worth the time of day in your life.

YES so true! I like people but she doesnt and the snide comments always come after I have had a good time with a friends

Well said!

So honoring thy father and mother doesn't count when they are Narcissists?

Me too.

Omgggggg that’s the worst thing ever… it stings so bad

Oh my word yess I'm the eldest but not treated as so younger siblings have gaslit me for a long time yet I was always to blame. I saw them recently after a big blowup nearly 2 years ago and they were not apologetic just denying everything and making me out to be someone who is losing her mind. No thanks distance is best.

They do that because it is the easy option

Yep, triangulation. I had a close friend I lived with who liked my brother, took him two years but he eventually saw my brother for what he’s like. My friend pointed out to me ‘when your brother is with your mum they gang up on you, your mums nice, your brother manipulates everyone, he could also be saying bad stuff about you to her,’ do I asked Mum and she denied it. I said ‘keep an ear out fir what he’s saying to you about me, as I’m a good person, he could be manipulating you,’ and after that her attitude changed a bit. But god.

Ugh...always

I was feeling that I am a problem. It helped me 😭

💟💜💟

We are ONE...I SEND YOU LOVE...cuz the pain is Real😔

Ummm.. Are we related? Lol

It feels great that I found a supportive community, finally. ❤️

I'm the truth teller also. When my dad was molesting sisters, I declined and told on him. It's not so much that I love truth as that I dont have a filter!! Im 67 now and doing ok. ♡

I Am Living out of the Family Home i Rent Out The Back of it. And the Narcissistic in My Family is my Brother and he is also a slumlord Doesn't Put on the air Much Except When I Leave or Heat Much Except When I Leave and I Have a Child trying to get out of the situation and Move. My Mother is in Denial and I'm Good with That and my Father Has Dementia, & Money is involved. &, Honestly I don't care about The Money &, Yes i Am the Truth-Teller in The Family, even Though.Nobody Believes Me... He's Older by 9 years and I am the only one that Gets to see The MASK COME OFF!!! But i Am The Only 1, That Will Stand Up, To My Brother I Am NOT AFRAID OF MY BROTHER and I Will Threaten My Brother. He has Mentally, Emotionally, Verbally and Now i've Been Told i Am Sick by my Dr, The Reason That is, is because he won't put on the Air... and he has done this to me for many years and granite yes I have a mental illness but he's a narcissist amongst other things, it doesn't skip siblings, we all have it, We all Have Some Sort oF ssues... ✌️🙏❤️ & THANK YOU

Me too......

Me too. 😭

Absolutely saved my life being able to walk away. My parents didn’t really care anyway, so walking away, as time went on, became easier. I’ve been lucky enough to met and marry someone who always finds value in me ..respects my opinions and validating my feelings. Thanks again for helping me see what was going on .. and break free

I've noticed this when my dad passed away. it's like they think they can do anything now there's no danger of you going to the parent in question to tell what is/has been going on. it just shows the amount of respect they show for their dead parentand in fact they lied to them their entire life most likely. if only they would have known when they were alive. maybe they did and chose to ignore it like they done all their life. maybe it add's up to that we're not responsible for our parents bad choices

Its traumatic

yes, greif under a circumstances like this can be devastating... the sibling shows no empathy and it increases their sence of entitlement and it becoumes deficult to even greif your loved one you feal sad all the time and they like it because they want you to be miserable and of you ever start to feel a slight joy they accuse you by being not greifing enough or sad enough and increase the suffering even more... once i learn that it by experience amazed me how someone can be this cruel and psychopathic beyond our kind imagination i hope you get through this somehow soon you got this

Haha siblings at war over inheritance is not an old story. Strange beings

Same thing for me. I always knew my older sister was going to be difficult after our parents passed. I just could not imagine how insanely difficult, contentious, petty, greedy and ultimately costly for all of us, she would be. And it's a tragedy that such destructive emotional, legal and financial abuse can go on, unabated by the court system and society, because it's not tangible or provable. And like you said, it shook me to my core.

Congratulations 🎊, love yourself. I had to learn to love myself. You are the best, I hear it in your truth.

Same here and just finally realizing i always thought was me

@@SubconsciousCreations267 Do they tell you you are the problematic one? They say that to me. Sucks >_

Me too it's soul crushing. I don't speak to her anymore, mine and my childrens life is so much better since no contact 🎉

Yes same here.

I am so sorry to read this. I know a loy about narcissism, I’ve had my share of experiences but I’m lucky that my mother-in-law although she is very toxic my husband sticks up for me, we talked about it, he doesn’t force me to go see her and even puts her in her place… I almost left him over his mother and I think that’s what made him realize that this was a dealbreaker for me. We did have to talk about it about two or three times in the beginning of our marriage it wasn’t easy but he got the point that it was either me leaving or him setting boundaries with her

Одлично?🙋🙂

This.

And you!

very painful indeed, too bad they don't care about the pain they're causing

Ugh that pisses me off sooo much! I have had the 'blood is thicker than water' lecture from so many people who don't know ANYTHING about me or my family. It's messed up. Stick to your guns and ignore their hurtful comments, most say it out of ignorance rather than malice...and if it's malice, drop them too! Big hugs!

That when we should just say nothing, not everyone knows what it's like. Play your card close to your chest. I am doing the same.

Becuz I won't talk 2 my narc sis, everyone in my family calls me a "vindictive bitch"

Dr. Ramani, thanks so much for this video.....it hit me like a brick! Couldn't figure out why I was and am still mad at my narc siblings. It's nice to know that I'm not crazy.

Yeah, I’ve gotten that too. Unless you’ve had to deal with narcissists yourself, you just don’t get it. Lucky them.

I hear you & feel the same. It sucks& esp getting old & not having any family since theyre so divisive, entitled, self serving, manipulative, arrogant, cruel....and my parents were so bad i vowed never to marry & be like them, or have kids. And didny.

I had that type of upbringing as well, Nicolette, but I made a decision that I am not going to allow them to ruin my life. I tried very hard to find a good person to marry and after a few bad attempts at a relationship I found a loving man and married him. The sooner we realize we're in the hole, the better, and it is very important to then stop digging and figure out what we're going to do with our lives. We've been brought up without an identity, since we were only seen as reflections of a very messed up Narc. It is therefore important to remain sober and train our minds, train our habits and ourselves to be to "our selves" what we always needed from our family of origin. Hang in there, kiddo.

You are not alone. I lived my life surrounded by narcissists. It was hell on earth!

Yes Nicolette, this is also an accurate description of all that I have been through.

I was thinking the same thing!!!!

That's what my dad would say. He was under her spell. I was glad for him when he died so she couldn't use him any more.

My MIL played that card on my wife and SIL all the time. My wife finally told her that since SIL has never, in her life, told her she loves her, that's a lost cause.

I got that too, but my sister also badmouthed me so that our cousins believed I was the problem. I'm letting it all go now. It's really great to have answers, to understand after all these years, but now I have to let it go.

I hear this all time from my mother. I have no problem loving my sister & compromising to her along, but she can never admit when she makes a mistake and refuses to even apologize. Now that I no longer will allow her to walk all over me, the relationship has broken down. And my mom still just wants me to be a doormat. Dr. Ramani is so right when she said that the truth teller is not rewarded but rather made to be the scapegoat. That’s what is happening to me & it is so painful.

That's what my dad says.

I understand!!!

I understand quite well!

Nailed it!

Understand 100%

Thank you for saying this

Took me 44 years ..... I win :P

@@Flitalidapouet Lol my siblings took all the competition in me, if any. You win :-)

Took me 40 years

Don't beat yourself up over not knowing what you were dealing with. It took me 45 years too. My sister is a covert but, I believed that her behavior was due to abuse as a child. ( We both? were. Not 100% sure about her, really. ) I'm over it. I went no contact years ago and it was one of the best things that I've ever done for myself. ❤️

@@Flitalidapouet 😂😂😂

I just want to confirm, you are not crazy or weird. That sounds more like the narcissists in your life trying to make you believe that, because as long as you believe it, they can continue to manipulate you and keep you "in your place." I wish you much strength and good things in your life. As someone who went 100% no contact with my family a few years ago, I can tell you in no uncertain terms that your life will get infinitely better after you let them go. In the beginning, you may wish to reconnect, give it (the relationship) another chance, but don't do it. I have never been happier in my entire life than I am right now, and I've been happy since I finally let them all go. I'm also better off financially (nobody hanging around mooching off my goodwill, while simultaneously telling me and anyone who'll listen what a stupid, horrible, unethical whack job I am). Now that nobody constantly reminds me of how worthless I am, and also, not begging, borrowing, or stealing my hard-earned money, I have found such joy and freedom in being totally alone. I personally chose to stay alone for the rest of my life (no boyfriend or husband), mainly because I don't trust men, but also, because I don't trust myself to pick someone who'll treat me right. I'm not saying you have to be alone, but I am saying that getting the narcissists out of your life is going to be the BEST gift you can ever give yourself. Best wishes to you! And for the record, you are not the problem. They are!

When I had my realization and break through as to what was going on in my life, I felt like I had finally solved a puzzle that I didn’t even know I was trying to solve. I felt a tremendous amount of relief. I finally knew that I am NOT “too sensitive” and I DO NOT “take everything personal”. Things that happened in the past now make more sense. Stuff that was said to me and the way I was treated (and continue to be treated) all line up with this person being a Narcissist. All the Gaslighting, all the passive aggressive games, an extreme lack of empathy towards certain people….it is all present in this person. I finally understand and accept that it’s THIER shit, not mine. I no longer have to deal with it.

This resonates. I hope you're doing better and finding peace and healing

It's so profound when we find out that what we're experiencing there's others going rhgough the exact same thing, so grateful to have access to this information to start on the healing journey.

I hope you find healing...

Girl I thought this was a past comment I made, because I rewatch the dr. Post ,but then I looked up and it's your picture and realized you and I have the EXACT same story.😢😢😢😢

Couldn't agree any morr

Resonates with Mē too bro , . Dr Ramani here has pretty much described my situation to ã tee ( uncannily so 😲2 sisters narcs. ). Oh and greetings from the UK 🇬🇧 Here mān 👍🏻👍🏿

@@UncleBaldy same thing with me, no contact don’t seem to work either they just get triggered.

@Karen Alden well done with accepting the ultimate truth and moving on with your life and I have great respect for you with that you’ve outlined all the feelings that abound with dealing with narcissistic people. Me myself it’s been a massive difference finally accepting that No Contact is the only way that I can heal from the abuses this is what triggered those people I created a life without them and it’s becoming successful and I think maybe it’s a last attempt at making me feel bad being attacked on Facebook of all things for all my friends, my children and anyone else that read the posts I was limited contact at that point it convinced me that I was deluding myself that I would be okay with it putting up with a little bit in order to not upset the apple cart. So now I’m No Contact and that apparently makes me a bad person also it’s been great to have people say how I’m all kinds of bad for it. Thankfully my notes from my therapist stated in one part about how if someone can’t accept that you need to heal to be healthy then it’s dissonance. I needed to see that as the attack made me question myself all over again. I wish everyone was as understanding as your father but no matter I will push on after all at least it’s my own choice and that’s what I will keep reminding myself. For a strange reason I thought that I am not ever going to be accepted with flying monkeys everywhere but I know I can’t change that but I can change myself. I don’t think of myself a victim or a survivor as it’s still ongoing but I do know this I would like to be able to look back in say twenty years without regret and I accept myself with any flaws for any mistakes for whatever reason and I love with all I am and will be sad for not knowing if it could have gotten better but this is what kept me tied. I no longer want to be around this toxicity so we have to see what’s next and where life leads it’s all going to be new ground and I will keep my eyes open with no fear for the need of a better outcome.

Absolutely. Me too.

Never too late...better aware now than never. 👏👏👏

Yep,me too

“Optimism blinded me” too! Well put! 👍🙏

@@celiastrang2625 ...and me😔

I too am grateful and it’s also taken me decades!

Or you get a "reward," but it wasn't what you had in mind. Ha, ha!

Omgosh so true. I have had so much push back from going gray rock with my fam. I can tell when they're discussing me. My parents drag my sibs into it.

@@gmamose9152 See the triangulation for what it is and avoid stepping into that pothole.

@@sherrygillis so true. With the help if these vids, I can do that now. Also see things for what they are.

Apparently the truth is not a family value in some families. That say's it all.

I let some people back in and I regret it 😖

I completely commiserate with your response. I too feel broken-hearted to finally realise my so-called close bond and relationship with my sister for 60 years is and was always an illusion. I find it so very difficult to accept this awful fact. Now our parents have died I shall be moving towards minimal contact with her as she is toxic.

@@lulahummingbird664 Thank you Lula, I guess we can feel a bit of comfort in our loss knowing that we are not the only ones to experience the unthinkable.

@@chamomiletea9562 Absolutely! After reading so many responses of folk telling their respective stories, it helped me feel less ‘alone’ with my experience. Your message prompted me to message. Family and friends advise me to just walk away now but I am carrying deep disbelief that I did not see the manipulation for what it was. Nor the fact that my sister does not like me let alone love or care about me. It’s very destabilising. Deeply sad also. I’ll come through it but in the meantime I wanted to thank you for helping me realise that I am not alone. 🙏

My story too.

I get that. It might be the only way to save my other 2 daughters & granddaughter from feeling the pressure and misery from the ND to turn against me.

I wanna post this now that I’m ostracized My brother sent me to the er plastic surgery at age 8 almost lost eyesight drown me etc etc He’s a prosecutor wonder why he doesn’t wanna see me

As someone with a narcissistic sibling I can confirm this. Nearly killed myself a number of times this year because of what she’s done to me it’s horrible

@@danielea4343 Hang in there, Daniele. You matter. You are loved, and lovable, deserving of care, not of your sister's mistreatment.

@@teizenn1 I can save you some time and pain; give it up, put them all in the hands of God because the narcissist has already won them over too.

They're an insane circus 🎪 act we want no part of!

You are dead right there

@Krishna Patel I had a drunk dad. He died when I was 4. My mom was a narcissist and my brother was too. I had married the same type of behavior patterns as my family. I'm older. These two people are dead. The ex I don't know anything about him anymore.

@Krishna Patel We learn by doing. It's a cruel world. Everywhere. Be good to yourself.

Same (older brother, who used to take all his anger out on me physically/psychologically-6 years older, much physically bigger and stronger). It has gotten to the point I am sure they (mom and brother) are capable of murdering me and they pretty much would rather do that than not have full control of me.

I feel you. Everyday I think about how my narc sister disrespected me and harassed for minutes while I was on my hospital bed. Plus all the other shit she did and all the lies she told. The memories are haunting. Been no contact for a year and a half.

When she said 'they never compromise' that sealed it for me. My family's version of an apology is 'I'm sorry you feel we let you down.'

How do you do that when they live in same town and I’m just discovering that that’s been what’s wrong with them?

@@joannegriggs8865 Don't call, pick up the phone or answer the door. Plan holiday's without her/him. Be strong and consistant. You will be so happy.

Absolutely agree. Nothing is ever their fault - they take no responsibility at all for any behaviour. No contact is definitely wise, and the only way to save your own sanity.

My life story EXACTLY😢😢😢😢

How epically true, is this statement 👍

The promised land is anywhere they are not!

@@ms.newcomerteacher6554 truly..Moses has to go into hiding to hear gods voice

Omg yes 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

So true!!

ha ha ha i got out of dodge at age 14. i didnt really understand what was happening but my gut told me to flee the cage

@@dawn1201 most of us do.

Одлично!!! Поздрав доктор Рамани и свима који су ово доживели!!!!🙋🤗♥️ Срећно!

I always felt like an alien being in my family. I've tried to call out inappropriate behavior to the narc. sibling then the narc. parent and they always turned it back on me, like it's my fault for my reaction to inappropriate behavior. My childhood sucked so bad.

Wow ,, you’ve just described my evil sister and her quest to destroy the family!!👀

Good for you. I did the same thing and boy is life peaceful now!

No contact is such a relief!! But like you, I have a family of enablers. I can't seem to forgive them for tolerating the abuse I have suffered for decades. She is my twin & I'm 54! I totally get it!

Happy birthday I'll be 50 this year and went no contact 46.

In just a few hours from listening to this & reading other peoples posts...I don't feel nearly as isolated & alone with this. My thanks to all who have participated today. Boy...what a difference this has made!! 💜

They burn every single bridge eventually.

Not true. They have their golden child or golden friends and they have their scapegoat.

They also, come for the ones getting close to us. It's kinda silly the watch them chase around after the people they think are trying to be our friends or trying to be an asset in our life, because then we don't have to depend on them. Boy they get really mad when they put you out in the cold and then your Vibe tribe shows up , you know the family that's not by Blood. That really upsets them. Your Vibe tribe is not going to go away.

@@faypeatross VIBE TRIBE FANTASTIC ANALOGY.. I have been disturbed for yrs concerning the friends I have had along the way ...particularly a friend who's entire family were narcissistic and abusive to their one daughter...the parents and siblings to the outside world were perfect people. The daughter was a friend for 45yrs. The poor woman had a very serious back operation ..her mother put her children in foster care. The siblings found fault with every thing the poor girl did...no one ever stepped up to the plate to help her. Oh, when the children were brought back home to the biological mother the family gushed over them. With visits spoiled them with gifts and treats.. BUT always found fault with their natural mother ( WHO THEY DENIED WAS EVER ILL ..DENIAL AND LIES) and the family scapegoat. The poor woman became so ill an invalid at a young age mid 40s..the fam the children brain washed them against her and the father of the girls & his new born again wife proceeded with more indoctrination and brain washing. The children were promised the moon, candy and lollipops..they walked into another viper den of NARCISSISTS. Their natural mother did everything she could under the circumstances..but beat down every step of the way by the her ex..the siblings..and her own mother. All the family denying the serious illness and disability of their sister/ daughter. MY FRIEND SPENT A LIFE TIME attempting..seeking the love of her own mother, her children and sibiings. One daughter married a cadet...traveled etc..he became V HIGH UP IN THE MILITARY..IMAGE WAS THEIR MIDDLE NAME. YRS LATER THEN, MORE ILLNESS AGAIN V. ILL, INSTEAD OF PROPER MEDICAL THE DAUGHTER A NURSE HAD HER PLACED IN A HOSPITAL FOR THE MENTALLY ILL. IT TOOK ALMOST A YR FOR THE DOCS TO GET TO THE TRUTH - YRS OF MEDICAL ATTENTION & 10 INCHES OF MEDICAL PAPER WORK. - THEY RELEASED HER AND HER DAUGHTER WAS INFORMED THE MEDICAL PROBLEMS WERE THE ISSUE NOT MENTAL HEALTH. WHEN WE WERE YOUNGER IN 30s early 40s I was invited to join a family labor day cook out..I thought the family to be v pleasant. 2 had homes next to the other. They all made it a point to show off the homes, property, number of vehicles, valuable china etc., they gushed all over me with kindness. My friend was so happy that her sisters and brothers were so pleased to have us both there. It had been yrs since, she felt so accepted. Then BINGO a couple weeks later one sister and another informed her she was not welcome to bring anyone ever to their homes and that she really was not welcome either. They did not like her friend..me. WOW! QUITE A JOLT...I WAS EDUCATED OWNED MY OWN HOME AND FROM A VERY FINE and,Well educated FAMILY BACK GROUND. I was gracious, courteous complimentary and had mentioned how I enjoyed being with everyone. I was informed by my friend she was told not to ever bring me along. 35 yrs later I realized they circled the wagons because of a very guarded family secret of abuse ..my friend had confronted this years prior. (From her teens to death they never gave this woman a break.) My husb was an attorney, so this made me a threat. They did not like or trust their own sister who yrs earlier confronted them...THESE PEOPLE SPENT A LIFE TIME BEATING THEIR SISTER DOWN , GASLIGHTING; KNOWING HOW PHYSICALLY ILL THIS WAS WOMAN WAS THEY OUSTRACISED AND DEEMED HER MENTALLY DERRANGED TO EACH OTHER AND OUTSIDERS, INCLUDING DESTROYING THE RELATIONSHIP OF HER OWN CHILDREN.....YET, WHO CAME RUNNING WHEN THEIR LIFE TURNED SIDE WAYS...HER YOUNGEST CHILD. AND AT THE END THE OLDEST DAUGHTER BROUGHT HER TO HER HOME FOR CARE. IT TOOK MY FFIEND 55 YEARS TO GAIN HER OWN MOTHERS APPROVAL AND FOR HER MOTHER TO RECOGNIZE HER DAUGHTER HAD BEEN SERIOUSLY ILL FOR 35 YRS. IT ALSO, TOOK ALL THIS FOR HER MOTHER TO MAKE PEACE... IF ALL THE INFO AVAILABLE TODAY HAD BEEN THERE 40..50..60..YRS AGO. MANY DECENT, HONEST LOVING SOULS WOULD NOT END UP TORMENTED ALWAYS TORN BY WHAT THEY ...THEY ACTUALLY, DID NOT DO... WHAT DID THEY EVER DO NOT TO BE LOVED BY THEIR FAMILIES? WHY DID THE FAMILIES TAKE IMMEDIATE DISLIKE TO THEIR SISTERS FRIEND OR FRIENDS THE VIBE TRIBE? THE VIBE TRIBE IS AND WAS THE BIGGEST THREAT. WHY? BECAUSE THE TRUTH SURFACES ( THEIR REALATIVE AND TARGET IS A GREAT PERSON, KIND,LOVING, THOUGHTFUL AND VERY RESPECTED) THE VIBE TRIBE ENDS THE MANIPULATIVE LIES, THE SLANDERING, HARMFUL, CRUEL BEHAVIORS OF THE VICIOUS EGO DRIVEN, NARCISSISTIC FAMILY OF GASLIGHTERS. --' (no matter their nutsville intent,)--THESE PROPLE ARE DEVOID OF CONSCIENCE . THEY DO EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO DESTROY THEIR TARGET. THEY 'EVIL DOER'S' Have a mission no one is better then they...and anyone who is kind, sweet, has integrity, is lovely, etc...no one can be their competition in any respect, school, work, friends, family. Marriage, children etc..they are jealous, insecure humanbeings with a false facade of being on top of everything ..they live in denial, delusion...fantasy. They will be your best friend gush all over you in their company and behind your back they will literally slander leaving an image that you are the enemy number one. If it is a daughter they may actually be competing with her because of her attributes...sons and fathers as well. The do as I say do...the put downs..control etc...many lives are destroyed...this cycle is now broke...thanks to communication etc.. Many abused persons become narcissistic because of environmental abuse and patterns set within fam structure. Therapy should be key to good mental health...not the pop a pill and glide along..there are no magic bullets. These videos are doing a lot of good. But before everyone goes running from family not every parent with traditional values..and well this is the way my parents raised us...is a bad mother or father. Communication must be open ended...if it can not solve or bring understanding forth...then run for the hills..work on you and don't look back.

@Krishna Patel ONLY The MENTALLY STRONG 💪 Survive Successful!!!! I'm Encouraged Even More 🥰 Listening...🙋

My sister says such terrible things about my parents to their small local community. I’ve had the brunt of her narcissistic rage a number of times. My parents say it’s nothing and make light of my pain. Only, I don’t understand why we don’t just get along. There’s 8 years difference between us. I remember my sister always being a difficult person to deal with. She would often say terrible things to me as a teenager and young adult even in front of my parents and my parents would never stop it or say it wasn’t right.

Absolutely!!💯 I salute you, you put your mental health first and foremost and I too have gone no contact!!! Yeah!!!!💜

​@@mmedunlop I'm sorry you experienced that; how sh***y! 😢

Don't feel bad.. I just cut my brother off and it only took 66 years.. 😆

Sounds like you just told my own story to a t!!

I feel your suffering i wish you speed in recovery💜💜💜🌸

Me too.

yup, me too! except it's both parents!

@@riotgrrrl oh I'm with you there. Both parents and 2 siblings. The other 2 siblings are too spineless to see it.

@@jenster29 this almost makes me more depressed. That the behavior/ disease is SO OBVIOUS and the coda sibs don’t see it !!

Yup!!

I feel that. My narc MIL decided the easiest way to make her life easy was to force my wife to get along with my borderline SIL rather than actually parenting.

I hear and see you

Same!!! The mental anguish was next level!

My life exactly