Doctors' walkout four weeks in

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2 ай бұрын

전공의 집단행동 4주차, 현재 상황과 앞으로 예상 전개는?
Good evening to our viewers in Korea and hello to others around the world, you’ve tuned into Arirang’s Within the Frame. I’m Han Da-eun in Seoul.
South Korea has entered the fourth week of the doctors’ walkout but the stand-off between the government and the medical community is only intensifying.
The government is firmly adhering to its stance that adding two-thousand doctors each year is not subject to negotiation, while doctors argue the decision has been made unilaterally, and should be discussed from square one.
That’s as concerns deepen among patients who are in desperate need of timely treatments.
Doctors’ walkout four weeks on- where do we stand and where are we headed? To give us some insights, Song Se-ryun, Professor of Law at Kyung Hee University joins us tonight. We’re also joined by Dr. Alice Tan, an internist at MizMedi Women's Hospital.
(SONG) Q1. The legal battle between doctors and the government has officially begun.
The first hearing was held yesterday for the administrative lawsuit filed by the Medical Professors Association of Korea against the government.
Tell us about the hearing, and what are the primary points of contention?
(TAN) Q2. While the stand-off intensifies, medical service disruptions continue across Korea.
Reports show that surgeries have been slashed in half at major large-scale hospitals compared to a month ago, while the number of hospitalized patients also dropped by 40%.
Four weeks into the doctors’ walkout, how do you assess the current situation?
(SONG) Q3. The government, meanwhile, is putting greater pressure on the medical community, forging ahead with a police probe into the Korea Medical Association.
Three incumbent and former officials of the KMA, including chief of the association’s emergency committee Kim Taek-woo were grilled this week for hours over allegations that they instigated the mass walkout.
How would the investigation pan out?
(SONG) Q4. Medical professors are also mulling mass resignation in protest.
Professors at Seoul National University Medical School were first warned of collective action, deciding to submit resignations next week if no "reasonable breakthrough" is sought by the government.
Professors of 18 other medical schools nationwide are largely expected to follow suit.
And the health ministry is reviewing an order for the professors to maintain work.
Can you explain to us the legal grounds on which the “maintain work order” can be issued?
(TAN) Q5. As the extended walkout leaves patients in limbo, concerns are rising especially among cancer patients following the recent death of a biliary tract cancer patient who died after being forced to move to a nursing facility.
From my understanding, chemotherapy is generally administered at three-week intervals and doctors’ walkout would mark one month next week.
How concerned are you about this?
(TAN) Q6. The government is actively mobilizing all available resources to fill the medical void, deploying military doctors and public health doctors at major hospitals.
And it’s also seeking to expand the role of physician assistant nurses, and push for legalization of the PA nursing system.
What are your prospects for this?
(SONG) Q7. Meanwhile, the government has completed sending pre-notice of administrative action to some 5,000 striking trainee doctors, and plans to notify other remaining doctors still refusing to return to work.
Doctors, meanwhile, requested urgent intervention from the International Labor Organization, claiming that the government's order to commence work violates the ‘prohibition of forced labor’ clause in the ILO Convention.
How do you foresee things playing out from this point?
(TAN) Q8. Professors at Seoul National University Medical School have suggested delaying the decision on medical school quota expansion for one year, and in the meantime create a consultative body through which doctors and citizens will discuss the matter in depth.
The presidential office, however, rejected the idea, saying Korea’s medical reform can no longer be delayed.
What are your thoughts on this?
And that brings us to the end of this show.
Thank you for watching, and be sure to tune in same time tomorrow to join our conversation.
Good bye for now.
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2024-03-15, 18:30 (KST)

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@marialeemlb1574 2 ай бұрын

World is watching and in shock at what the medical students endure with almost no pay. Sending support

@jobunaga4178 2 ай бұрын

i am watching in shock and awe at how selfish the doctors are in south korea. they can use pretty words, but underneath is is a monopoly trying to maintain its grip on the market.

@EmeKaGirl 2 ай бұрын

@@jobunaga4178I am proud of these doctors. They have been taken advantage of by their government. They know their worth! Good job!

@TheRealMcCoyAndChipsAhoy 2 ай бұрын

@@jobunaga4178 so not being selfish means overworking themselves with very low pay ? You sure you are not the SELFISH A hole?

@rebeltheharem7028 2 ай бұрын

@@jobunaga4178 Yeah, they have to make enough money to warrant 12 years of debt and unpaid labor (which by the way, is incredibly expensive compared to Korea's standard of living). And since its universal health care, it means doctors will get paid less, which means its not as worth those years. If being a doctor was so easy, everyone would be a doctor, and they would all be fine with making as much as an office working (with much more stress and liability).

@kenho-wr5ul2rh7m 2 ай бұрын

@@rebeltheharem7028 so these can leave the patients dying or without treatment/care? how about the doctors/medics without pay and even facing death every hour in Gaza?

@JL-jm7 2 ай бұрын

It was difficult to understand the walkout at first but understanding the issue further the main issue is poor working environment and pay for the junior doctors, being overworked and not sufficiently compensated. Sure the govt can increase the intake of medical students but first also address the issues raised by junior doctors. Be fair to them.

@joycelee1807 2 ай бұрын

Bullshit...

@chetaytiti 2 ай бұрын

I work in the health industry. Our administrator told the nursing supervisor she is not allowed to bring agency nurses to work shits. We full-time nurses dont make as much money as agency nurses, but still, we need the extra help. The full-time nurses can't work 7 days a week. We need more nurses, but we don't get paid as much as agency. So if full-time nurses get paid more, maybe we can work extra hours. But no they dont want to give us more money

@joycelee1807 2 ай бұрын

Then quit ur nursing job if u r so unhappy

@jmatt98 2 ай бұрын

Enough with the cursing 🤬

@NS-yt1vy 2 ай бұрын

Stand with your doctors. Stand with your nurses. Stand with your healthcare heroes. If they can't be taken care of, how do you expect them to take care of your loved ones.

@kimyu1043 2 ай бұрын

It had to get to a point where doctors need to walkout. There would’ve been tell tale signs before this but SOMEONE didn’t do his/her work. The government’s agency that manages this should have insight and foresight on this. We also still can’t separate the work culture in the equation.

@jessiesiegexabers5586 2 ай бұрын

They are tired and exhausted. Yes, they want to help people but they are not mules who work till they die of exhaustion just because your an evil owner. Btw the owner is the gov. At this case.

@genechanloui 2 ай бұрын

Mmm wouldn't having more doctors mean less work and less exhaustion.

@soulanstreets222 2 ай бұрын

@@genechanlouiIt would also mean less pay and the only way to reconcile that with education would be to make medical school less costly….but if the education fees are not going down, yet more people are working in the field and hospitals are going to cut wages…no one is going to want to be a doctor.

@SbbHangTakPandaiJagaNegeriNi 2 ай бұрын

@@genechanlouiyes less work but also low salary. and how you going to live when you cant pay your rent, bill, food and so on?

@felrostorcuator9477 2 ай бұрын

I support all medical professional. Its about time they see your true worth. It pains to see them taken for granted and their skills not appreciated. Not only doctors but all health professionals working as a team. No one will understand them better than their own colleagues who works in the medical industry. Praying for reasonable solution for this problem. My heart also goes to those medical undergraduates who are pressured and stressed. Hope for a win-win solution to this predicament.

@tonyc209 2 ай бұрын

Support the strike as a basic human right! You're really brave to fight and the world is watching! Support from Taiwan.💪

@rizalmiehishamabdrahim4369 2 ай бұрын

For normal citizen, more doctor means faster treatment and possibly at more reasonable fees. Thus support from outside medical sector is low to none. For the doctor especially the trainee, it would mean lower ability to demand better pay and to choose prestigious hospitals to work with especially in Seoul region.

@onepunchman4481 2 ай бұрын

Yes I absolutely agree. They just want to maintain their monopoly in medicine.

@retardo-qo4uj 2 ай бұрын

maybe more student mean they got less training and become low quality? Maybe doctor with better skill will flee the country because of the strong arm policy of the goverment? Does people think that doctor work 40 hours/week and have an easy life or something? Maybe normal citizen should stop watching propaganda and do more critical thinking.

@katarzynazdrojewska4233 2 ай бұрын

Yes, but as the professors say if you don't provide also more space and more teaching staff the doctors coming out will have lower quality, which I wouldn't want as a patient. In my country I am very vary of that, and if I can I go to private care which often has better doctors as it's more competitive, but we also are voicing the need for better quality teaching and specializing the public care doctors, even more so that government is also trying to shift some responsibilities to the nurses. It's good to receive fast care, but I'd rather have more EMTs and specialist doctors than more poor quality doctors..

@rizalmiehishamabdrahim4369 2 ай бұрын

@@katarzynazdrojewska4233 considering the new intake only increased next year and no reduction in the courses time the quality won't be a problem. Plus the medical colleges asking more students than the ROK planned increase.

@katarzynazdrojewska4233 2 ай бұрын

I heard the heads of universities want even more (more student = more tuition), but the professors teaching there are not all for it (because of the strain on the education). I would be less worried about time of the courses and more about student-teacher ratio in such scenarios - I am not a doctor but did a degree with a teaching component and can understand how it would be troubling for the teaching staff. Also having more competition to force doctors outside of the capital instead of taking steps to ensure life is comfortable outside of it so that some would go back of their own volition seems like a bad idea - especially amidst all the reports how Korea outside of Seoul is rapidly deteriorating and doesn't get enough support... In the end it's not something I have an in-depth knowledge of nor it concerns me to the point of tracking all information - I'm just reflecting on those opinions with the situation we have locally in mind. We'll get to see how it goes for Korea and what will be the results of their actions in future news I guess. I wish them success ;) @@rizalmiehishamabdrahim4369

@jujugarcianyc 2 ай бұрын

Great discussion! And wow Dr. Tan is so adept at addressing both the medical, political and journalistic issues here

@oliverallen5324 2 ай бұрын

Residents, trainee doctors are underpaid(hospitals make 150k$ per resident, pay them 50-60k), overworked through scut, without the opportunity to hone their skills because of limited training hospitals.

@haochentrends 26 күн бұрын

my sister is a cardiologist and yes they dont get paid when they were trainees, that should change

@ksjrvouaeli 2 ай бұрын

I don’t understand how a policy like this was to be rolled out without the support of the medical community. If they are admitting 2000 more student per year, wouldn’t hey need more teaching and training professors, facilities etc? If it’s just the current intern, residents who are opposed but all other doctors on board, would this strike hold so much power? It seems more than that.

@kitty2527 2 ай бұрын

South Korean govt is like that and their laws are crazy. Especially on child abuse cases.

@celiacelisally 2 ай бұрын

I hope the doctors stay strong- I hate how medical personnel are treated with this expectation to endure and suffer because that somehow proves they are in it for the “right” reasons. I just fear that the nurses, aides, and techs are in the same situation if not worse and they are being put in such a disgusting position right now- I just hope they also get better working conditions and better pay. ❤❤❤❤

@jobunaga4178 2 ай бұрын

more doctors would mean they wouldn't need to work 100 hours per week anymore. the workload could be shared.

@rebeltheharem7028 2 ай бұрын

@@jobunaga4178 And the wage equally decreases by that amount. If they were making 120K before, now they make 60K, which is an extreme downgrade. If you had to take hundreds of thousands for loans, a decade of schooling and training, costly insurance, would you take a 50% pay cut? Its an extreme example, but you get the idea. Their employer is not the hospital, but the government, cause its universal health care, meaning the big boss is the government. If they really wanted to help the doctors, then they would keep the pay the same, while adding more doctors, but this isn't whats happening, or what is going to happen.

@joycelee1807 2 ай бұрын

Quit then if u r not happy, patients r suffering because of ur selfishness

@celiacelisally 2 ай бұрын

I am disabled due to a severe spinal cord injury and multiple surgeries. I had to learn to walk twice in my life, and now I have a spinal cord stimulator. I have other medical issues that require me to go to the hospital frequently, and I will probably always need medical care. However, I don't believe that my doctors, nurses or technicians should suffer to take care of me. They have done so much for me and deserve to have a good quality of life, just like I do. While I don't necessarily believe that everyone should get paid the same, I do think that everyone should have a good quality of life. I work as a cashier, and I believe that I, too, deserve a good quality of life. I love my job and take pride in providing excellent customer service. I make sure that each of my guests gets precisely what they need for themselves or their family, and it brings me joy to provide optimal customer service. Even if someone comes into my work and doesn't buy anything, I want to make sure that they have an incredible experience because that's what they deserve. However, I don't believe that I should get paid the same as a nurse or firefighter. Everyone deserves a good quality of life, but pay should be based on the level of education, experience, and responsibility that a job requires. I was a teacher before I broke my back, and I still have a desire to teach, but life has taken me in a different direction. I didn't expect to be this disabled at 25, but I have found purpose in my work as a cashier. I take pride in wrapping things beautifully and making sure that people have a positive experience when they come into my store. I have never once felt that someone taking care of me in the hospital should be paid less because of what they do. They take care of me with pride and acknowledgment, and it doesn't hurt anyone to ensure that everyone has a good quality of life and is taken care of.

@celiacelisally 2 ай бұрын

@@joycelee1807 I am disabled due to a severe spinal cord injury and multiple surgeries. I had to learn to walk twice in my life, and now I have a spinal cord stimulator. I have other medical issues that require me to go to the hospital frequently, and I will probably always need medical care. However, I don't believe that my doctors, nurses or technicians should suffer to take care of me. They have done so much for me and deserve to have a good quality of life, just like I do. While I don't necessarily believe that everyone should get paid the same, I do think that everyone should have a good quality of life. I work as a cashier, and I believe that I, too, deserve a good quality of life. I love my job and take pride in providing excellent customer service. I make sure that each of my guests gets precisely what they need for themselves or their family, and it brings me joy to provide optimal customer service. Even if someone comes into my work and doesn't buy anything, I want to make sure that they have an incredible experience because that's what they deserve. However, I don't believe that I should get paid the same as a nurse or firefighter. Everyone deserves a good quality of life, but pay should be based on the level of education, experience, and responsibility that a job requires. I was a teacher before I broke my back, a student broke my back, it was an accident, but it took life in a different direction. I didn't expect to be this disabled at 25, but I have found purpose in my work as a cashier. I take pride in wrapping things beautifully and making sure that people have a positive experience when they come into my store. I love my job and I know my worth and I know what I give is worthy of pride and a livelihood. I have never once felt that someone taking care of me in the hospital should be paid less because of what they do, or that their suffering financially, emotionally or physically made them a better caregiver. Not even while I struggled financially, emotionally or physically have I thought how dare they get paid what they deserve. In fact I have seen first hand how hard there jobs are, how much they give, and how hard they are pushed and torn down by a system that thinks caregivers somehow pay the bills by being selfless, and okay with suffering. They take care of me with pride, care, acknowledgment, and gentleness. it doesn't hurt anyone to ensure that everyone has a good quality of life and is taken care of. Ps I have had horrible experiences yes, I can tell you traumatic experiences- but most of them come out of the broken system you seem to want to continue, and I hope you realize that it’s okay stand up for your worth and by standing up for others worth you are pulling yourself and your community up.

@TheonlyGeezus 2 ай бұрын

Hello from Los Angeles

@nerdyfreak1234 2 ай бұрын

Dr. Tan for Health Minister!

@NS-yt1vy 2 ай бұрын

There is a reason this information is suppressed in the USA. Can you imagine that your USA resident physicians are paid $65k a year for 3-7 years AFTER medical school. That is without a fellowship still. The government needs to take care to increase the pay of USA resident physicians.

@deblibra6884 2 ай бұрын

She is just giving a pad answer. If required surgery is slashed 40% it's a crisis. When you are the one that needs the service it's a crisis. She is down-playing the situation but what if it continues 2, 6 months or a year.

@ahtan2771 2 ай бұрын

Elective surgeries have been postponed or referred. Urgent and emergent surgeries are being performed as usual. No crisis! Focus on the facts.

@Reformed322 2 ай бұрын

Imagine paying someone what they deserve. Good for the people walking out, your own self matters more than anyone, except my wife, she matters more than everyone in the world.

@richard09able 2 ай бұрын

I support the medical community.

@mii1563 2 ай бұрын

I dont really understand, not being from Korea. It seems like 2000 more doctors a year would be amazing, better healthcare and more support for medical professionals. It seems, from what I can understand, that the issue is primarily based on salaries and not asking what the current doctors need now. Please clarify if you know its hard for me to understand it.

@mystoc3995 2 ай бұрын

its the whole idea of don't make the effort and hard work I had to do in the past easier for others which makes my job less valuable. they want pass more people as doctors each year so that means its easier to be a doctor there's a yearly cap. It would be like if made the degree you earned in collage take 1/3 less work now that degree is viewed as less valuable, doctors want their positions to stay more scarce even if it means more work for them cause their value lets then negotiate for better pay ect..

@rebeltheharem7028 2 ай бұрын

It's 2 pronged. Having more doctors is good, but the doctors will get paid less. Getting paid less means its not as valuable. Which means, they won't have as high bargaining power. Its universal healthcare, so that means pay is determined by the government. Strikes are always a money problem. They fear they will get paid less (they will get paid less, since its universal health care), which is a valid concern. You need to pay doctors the appropriate amount for their work. Being a doctor is hard labor, intensive and costly training, and high risk. Its more than just being greedy its a value proposition. If the government can assuage their fears of being compensated less, than it wouldn't matter. But that's not going to happen, because they are doing it for that very purpose. Just to let you know, they do not make as much money as US doctors, but they pay comparatively more to become a doctor.

@kenfeeb355 2 ай бұрын

It also has a lot to do with training capacity. There simply aren't enough professors, universities, and senior doctors to train this many students. The standards for medical liscencing will drop significantly overnight. So doctors with inadequate training and medical experience will greatly outnumber those with proper education and they won't be able to properly oversee the new residents. It's like telling doctors, "We'll just have 100 students (who are required to have significantly less knowledge about medicine) for every 1 doctor, and then pay them as much as you if you can't work the 60+ hours a week we require. We don't care if that's safe or not"

@mii1563 2 ай бұрын

So what im understanding is that the government should allocate more resources for training these new doctors and not lower the professional requirements, establish and negotiate a pay that is good for the current doctors and upcoming doctors as well as future raises based on the market and or inflation and ideally pay off the debts of these doctors from medical school as they are not paid as much and they are serving society. Seems like something thats understandable and justifiable for a stronger society and the benefits given by having universal healthcare. The government should do that if possible. I would want that way more than what we have in the usa. You all would get and currently get far better healthcare at a manageable cost. Its far better for society as a whole.

@robert-antoinedenault5901 2 ай бұрын

since it's universal healthcare, the unions representing these workers would guarantee equal pay as those that came previously. The issue of wage discrepancy is mostly in the private sector as it isn't so much part of the universal healthcare as it is profit driven (more clinics less profits). The issue of lowered wages (or little wages) as a resident is a worldwide problem; not exclusive to universal healthcare systems as it is common practice in the USA. If the tuition to become a member of the medical field is an issue not only for the potential workers but also the civilian population that is getting older which will be needing more care as time goes on. There should have been measures implemented (by the government) to increase national taxes as to offset the cost of tuition but also more restrictive regulations to prevent these newly formed professionals from leaving the public sector, to work in the private sector which isn't conducive to better the national healthcare services. It pains me to see the situation that Korea is facing, as the system had been optimized for many decades to be self sufficient. But now that their aging population represents the largest portion of the population needing these "general" services; the government's decision to increase the worker base is sound as they want to (as much as possible) reduce the eventuality of a sluggish/non performing sector. You just have to see the realities of countless other nations to see these realities first hand. Mine has been struggling for over 1-2 decades (much before COVID) and agencies had been the lifeline to fill those needs but during the pandemic they were also showed the consequences of relying on them (more ☠️ as they work multiple sites and transmit pathogens). Their use was beneficial but now laws have been laid to ban their use. The eventual outcome was to incorporate all of these into our universal healthcare systems and any and all subsequent newly graduates into it also. If tuition is the issue, there should be a 2 tier system available; as healthcare services provided also operate on the same basis. Public and private. We also have implemented such policies 15 yrs ago. Those that want to work in the private sector (USA and others jurisdictions) and international students that want to become medical practitioners (general [following #s are for general] or specialist) will pay a tuition of 14k$/yr for 3 yrs but for those that want to stay within the public sector only pay a tuition of 4,5k/yr for 3 yr. But this low tuition isn't the only "perk", as low interest rate loans (and bursary) repayments are provided to each student when plan starts (after the completion of the program) which is at a preferred rate (presently 2024 7.7%), during the entire lenght of the program the government will humbly😅 cover the student's loan interest, an additional 6 month grace period with no interest is given to graduates as they generally receive little to no funds during their probationary resident period. The ultimate question, is the population willing to pay more in taxes to help financially everyone's medical coverage? This is the cause and effect of any healthcare system livelihood. More funds=more services=more workers. A simple solution (many years ago) but in an inflationary economy it is hard to accept. One policy that should have been established many decades ago is to limit the expansion of the private sector or at the very least establish these as an cooperation between public and private. As it is common practice (enforced by legislation 😂), any and all professionals in private clinics must offer (minimum) 30% of their workload back into the public sector. The penalty for not abiding is the removal of your medical license. Some offer their time as working staff and others as teachers. It isn't rare to see many do this probono as they can "claim" it on their taxes as charity work, thus reducing their own respective governmental income tax bracket.

@simonloo2168 2 ай бұрын

Quite confused on this issue. Why would training more doctors irks current doctors ? What the impact on existing doctors ?

@rizalmiehishamabdrahim4369 2 ай бұрын

$$$ with more new doctor in the pipe line, the trainee can't be choosy and demand high pay plus most of them want to work in Seoul.

@jobunaga4178 2 ай бұрын

the high income doctors (plastic surgeons) would face more competition, which they don't want.

@simonloo2168 2 ай бұрын

@@rizalmiehishamabdrahim4369 ic. I heard there is lack of doctor on rural area so I thought more doctors trained would help the entire country but seem all doctors want to work In seoul but none want to go rural Area

@simonloo2168 2 ай бұрын

@@jameschalkwig787 thanks. Your input now give a clearer analysis to this issue .

@simonloo2168 2 ай бұрын

@@jameschalkwig787 sound like medical ministry in korea is badly screwed and mismanaged

@JustJulia-qt9nh 2 ай бұрын

How can teachers be compelled to work?! 😮

@kmaj-to4ci 2 ай бұрын

personally the doctors should just resign and shift to other jobs ... protesting against the government is a waste of time as they only react when they already get affected .... they'll just change when there are barely any people joining the profession

@riomio7852 2 ай бұрын

This.

@Socratic199 2 ай бұрын

Come to America. We need doctors and we pay them very well. Those fools can let money try to cure them.

@Redchevy9I 2 ай бұрын

Political in Korea. All about connections, manipulation, seniority and power. The new generation see no point in it unless this changes. Good job

@sjacks3281 2 ай бұрын

How about providing incentives for new and old doctors to work in underserved areas/fields? Better pay. Maybe even pay for their housing. decent housing. Have better trained and paid health care professionals in all levels to take the burden off of doctors. Just saying This govt seems to have short sighted solutions for a lot of things

@ksjrvouaeli 2 ай бұрын

They do this in the US and it’s not working. Most people still don’t want to go to remote places even with their ridiculously high school debts.

@Misaamanenoir 2 ай бұрын

@@ksjrvouaeli I believe those areas pay less and thats also the issue, and they'd be expected to work a lot due to the lack of staff.

@ksjrvouaeli 2 ай бұрын

At least where I am located, they pay better and work less because the population is less. Still doctors want to stay near metroplex areas

@sjacks3281 2 ай бұрын

@@ksjrvouaeli I'm skeptical about what the U.S. considers an incentive

@ragebyte 2 ай бұрын

Bringing the police into something like this is straight out of China law. That was really dumb. Starting to not look like a democracy.

@AF-ib8ec 2 ай бұрын

its always the c-suite and management that takes all the money, not the people who actually do the work

@richard09able 2 ай бұрын

The USA can definitely take some of the talented doctors off of your hands NK government, especially at university hospitals.

@vcwloves9864 2 ай бұрын

There are adequate beds and doctors available at smaller community hospitals. So, shouldn't the government accept the resignations of all the doctors who have submitted them? They are obviously not needed if this is the case. As for the increase quota of medical students, are current doctors afraid of the competition? In the U.S., the quota is based on the teaching institution and their ability to provide clinicals. It is up to the doctors to find jobs once they have graduated, competition or not. If there is a shortage of doctors, or certain types of doctors, shouldn't there be benefits offered to move to smaller community hospitals or regions? My primary care provider is having a portion of her medical school debt paid off for moving to our small town. If she wants to leave, she can. The only downside is that her medical school expenses will no longer be paid for. I'm an outsider looking in, but after 4 weeks, this still doesn't make sense. Greed and a fear of competition is what it seems like from the doctors side. As for the low pay that doctors are receiving, this is the norm for countries that largely have standardized Healthcare. Doctors in the U.S. have the potential to make millions because the Healthcare is privatized.

@ro-zeea.8734 2 ай бұрын

👏👏👏👏 well said. Agree 100%

@MrRichard1280 2 ай бұрын

Yep. American doctors can make millions and it has been said that we have the highest healthcare cost in the world.

@CaraMarie13 2 ай бұрын

Get starvation wages that is still less than the minimum wage for the country because that's what expected of nationalized healthcare... And didn't we lose over a million people due to covid? But at least our doctors have the potential to make millions

@kimarellano4338 2 ай бұрын

The primary challenge in South Korea is the shortage of doctors in crucial areas such as emergency medicine, which stems from the unattractive wages in these specialties. This scarcity significantly impacts healthcare delivery, particularly in emergency situations, creating obstacles to providing timely and sufficient care. The government's proposed solution of increasing the overall number of doctors may not effectively resolve this issue. While a larger pool of doctors could potentially ease some strain on the healthcare system, there's no guarantee they will specialize in the areas with the most pressing need. Instead, many may choose more financially rewarding fields like dermatology and plastic surgery, exacerbating the shortage in critical areas.

@kickassssnation027 2 ай бұрын

Low wages should not be given if the capital to create doctors are high, expensive and time consuming. If you want standardized/reasonable healthcare your first concern is to drive the cost down to make health care professionals, to grant access to lower income families to give their children support to become doctors. Is it ideal? No. But is it logical? Yes.

@HuangHwei 2 ай бұрын

Then hire more SouthEast Asian Medical Professionals. Problem solved👌

@hoainam113 2 ай бұрын

so why dont they hire from the beginning ?

@HuangHwei 2 ай бұрын

@@hoainam113 SK has been widely known as a homogeneous nation and most of them tend to be more nationalistic and have more of a superiority complex than other Asians.

@hoainam113 2 ай бұрын

@@HuangHwei sure, so they will never hire SouthEast Asian Medical Professionals as you wish

@HuangHwei 2 ай бұрын

@@hoainam113 Yep, they have to travel across SouthEast Asia to enjoy worldclass yet cheaper medical services.

@0s0sXD 2 ай бұрын

Underpaid, overworked, too much beauracracy, stress from working on living humans and the government still trying to completely make it worse just to save a buck

@robink812 2 ай бұрын

The doctor in Seoul is lying. There have been reports of elderly people dying from being refused care due to lack of doctors. Arirang reported on that last week or so....

@robink812 2 ай бұрын

I've noticed in these reports and reports on other outlets that there's A LOT of inconsistencies in the story (and information), especially on the doctors' end. They also keep "forgetting" how they walked out and left COVID patients to die.

@robink812 2 ай бұрын

I've been watching Korean news for years now and every time the Korean Government even mentions reform the doctors walk out without even trying to talk to the government first. Then they want to talk later to "save face". Ironically, they keep saying 'we need to have talks'. If I remember correctly, the government announced a desire to reform and discuss with doctors during covid, but they walked out, left patients to die with no treatment (which they did) and left hard working nurses to pick up the slack, and doctors refused to talk to the government. And why aren't we seeing numbers on the pay that's so low? It's not difficult to see them as entitled when their parents push them to become doctors from a young age, for the high pay (not for the care of helping people), and then they do things like walk out on a limb. I ended up not going back to Korea because of this. The irony is that I wanted to go into medicine while in Korea (to actually help people).

@ahtan2771 2 ай бұрын

Every day, on average, 225 people die of cancer in Korea. Every day. Thanks to doctors, cancer survival has significantly improved over the last twenty years!

@Misaamanenoir 2 ай бұрын

@@robink812 You make valid points. This is what I fear will happen with the American medical field, the only people that will be doctors will be entitled, golden spoon fed, Possibly cheating and very young and think they know everything because they have been put on a pedestal and told they are right their entire life. They don't value the life of their patients; they think they are better than us.

@d1tto232 2 ай бұрын

9:12 too late to worry about that when even famous people can control the police

@1HeatWalk 2 ай бұрын

I wonder how many patients died since the doctors walked out.

@kmaj-to4ci 2 ай бұрын

the less people care about their doctors well being ...the less the future generations will choose the job...who wants to be in extreme debt while working for less than minimum wage and more than 100 hours per week

@kmaj-to4ci 2 ай бұрын

you should blame their governmenr for not even covering the costs of the materials and training of doctors

@jobunaga4178 2 ай бұрын

@@kmaj-to4ciwhether the government is right or wrong on this issue doesn't change the fact that the doctors walked out on patients who are dying. dead is dead, and the doctors could have prevented it. plain and simple.

@wifi0015 2 ай бұрын

Disgusting, an absolute disgrace. This behaviour says it all about this nation

@CIA.Langley 2 ай бұрын

Excellent show these politicians and bureaucrats who actually has grey matter. 🎉

@JaySmith. 2 ай бұрын

The doctor lady trying her hardest to make the Korean medical system look good by overly emphasizing the “good” while dancing around the reality of the questions being asked.

@hkwak002 2 ай бұрын

I don't understand why the current doctors are so against this. Korea truly has a lack of doctors to see patients, especially specialists! Doctors see 40-50 patients a day, 5 minutes each. There aren't even nurse practitioners or physicians assistants in Korea to help offload the patient number. There has been a decline in important specialties like cardiology, pediatrics, etc especially in the smaller cities. Almost everyone wants to go into plastics and dermatology. They need more doctors to go around to improve patient access and care. Are the current doctors afraid of increased competition? Don't want to train the students? Are too tired and overwhelmed?

@bosorot 2 ай бұрын

I'm not a doctor in Korea (but in US). I think it is a supply and demand. The pay for regular GP are low . There is no incentive for doctors to move to remote area to serve for poorer population . Instead improve incentive for doctors to go to rural area . Increase production and hope that the over supply doctors will force to move out to the rural area are not exactly the right approach.

@SyusHaleing 2 ай бұрын

I read on an earlier report that the concern is there aren't enough funding to actually train these doctors, which is actually dangerous to the public, as well no student actually want to be poorly prepared for the role of a doctor and will naturally be prone to burning out of the profession all together. the issue is coming up with a sustainable plan, not just increasing enrollment. there needs to be increased funding and resources allocated as well

@kimarellano4338 2 ай бұрын

The primary issue facing South Korea is the scarcity of doctors in critical fields like emergency medicine, among others, largely due to low wages making these specialties less appealing. This shortage significantly impacts the country's healthcare system, leading to challenges in providing timely and adequate care, particularly in emergency situations. The government's solution of increasing the overall number of doctors might not effectively address this problem. While more doctors could potentially alleviate some strain on the healthcare system, it doesn't guarantee that they will specialize in the fields where they are most needed. Instead, many may opt for more lucrative specialties like dermatology and plastic surgery, perpetuating the existing shortage in critical areas.

@rbenusa 2 ай бұрын

@@bosorot It's also cultural. A lot of South Koreans value prestige and public perception of wealth and class far more than most other cultures in East Asia, or at least they're neck in neck with China when it comes to that. This tendency naturally gravitate them towards the more financially-rewarding sectors, and in the healthcare industry that's the more glamorous specialties like dermatology, plastic surgery, etc. It's a very problematic issue in their society--specially these days where cost of living is steadily rising in the country (specially home prices) which result in rising finances to support such an ideal lifestyle. It's a typical problem in Confucian societies like SK and China. Of the 3 great East Asian countries, Japan is the most least inclined to such things and coincidentally they're also the least Confucian influenced of the 3. Don't get me wrong though, Japan also has its problems with such things but it's not as severe as in SK and China.

@juhyeoneom6031 2 ай бұрын

What I can see is a group with vested interest trying to bargain with the government, using people's lives as leverage to secure an extravagant rent in the profession. Look how the cross-admits to read sciences in the most prestigious university in South Korea (SNU) and medical school at the university of absolute nowhere predominately choose to attend medical school. Top scorers in ranking-based Korean SAT, an absolute cream of the crop, also choose medical school over anything. People sign in for second, third, fourth, and even more years to resit Korean SAT to attend medical school. The scope of excessive rent in the profession manifests in an overwhelming preference for medical school - enabled by the grace of the government that kept the number of licensed docters ridiculously low for years (I hazard to call it a government failure). There is no intention to demonize people making the right decisions in their lives and bargaining for their interest (I belong to the "made-right decision group" of different professions), but the least one can do is stop pretending the doctors are doing this for justice.

@hikarushidou2952 2 ай бұрын

True. This event really tarnish korean doctors/trainees honor. Their action reflects " we don't care about patients , don't care about doctors oat. We only care about our salary"😂😂😂

@joycelee1807 2 ай бұрын

Totally agree

@hikarushidou2952 2 ай бұрын

Yeah . Korean doctors sure tarnish the good reputation and honor of the doctors

@joycelee1807 2 ай бұрын

Disgusting....

@joycelee1807 2 ай бұрын

No doctors in another country will walk out for such a long period. They r very heartless n put no interest in d well-being of the patients....

@kenfeeb355 2 ай бұрын

Doctors aren't slaves

@jsun7361 2 ай бұрын

😅😅😅😅 no health care crisis😅😅😅are you sleeping ? Even in singapore philippines ,US , Germany is struggling 😂😂😂😂 go to sleep.

@davinxi5926 2 ай бұрын

Just fire the worthless selfish doctors and hire a brand new spirit. Companies do it all the time

@natashadickson4819 2 ай бұрын

Why not pay them fair wages? That would be faster and less expensive than training replacements.

@A_Ki-chan 2 ай бұрын

Try going to medschool first, go through all the premed and med things before sharing your two cents

@celiacelisally 2 ай бұрын

They aren't selfish. They have worth- why do you expect doctors to suffer to prove they are in it for the “right” reasons…. I don't want my doctors suffering, nor anyone else. I have been in and out of hospitals, multiple surgeries, and multiple specialists, and I have seen how hard it is for them how sleep-deprived and stressed they are. It is rather disgusting that the people who are saving lives, giving lives a better outlook, and allowing people to continue a livelihood are expected to suffer. I live in the United States, and I have incredible insurance, but when I was poor, that wasn't the case, and I know doctors and medical staff, regardless of insurance type, are struggling. I can only hope the medical world is given the pay they deserve because no one's livelihood should have forced suffering.

@davinxi5926 2 ай бұрын

Selfish doctors

@kmaj-to4ci 2 ай бұрын

lol try being paid below minimum wage at 100hrs or more per week

@thecountofmontecristo7463 2 ай бұрын

Imagine not being able to pay off your student debts and provide for your family because you are being paid below your worth while working insane hours. Not to mention that you trained and sacrificed more than a decade to get to where you are.. The system takes advantage of these doctors' compassion for their patients and romanticizes hardship to justify ill treatment of these healthcare workers. Sometimes you have to save yourself first before you can save others. Food for thought.

@user-ix7iu4wf8o 2 ай бұрын

if there is sufficient medical workers (of all levels) for all hospitals (with the normal rate of graduates) THEN why the need to increase the numbers of students unless schools want more profits ! what the government should do is solve the medical prices / fees to lower them instead, so that the lives of people under care would not be put up as bargain chip. I also strongly disagree and in fact if i was the government not only would i go back to the round table BUT i would also punish these medical association for putting patient's life up as bargaining chip. Nothing is more important than a person's life. Both side is wrong but the association side has the worst impact and should be punish both sectors !

@geode9512 2 ай бұрын

For profit medical care is always a bad idea because it only attracts greedy people. If they are worried about competition, then have separate medical school applications that agree to work in rural areas