Dodge/Chrysler 3.3L cam/crank correlation problem (incorrect cam gear)

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11 жыл бұрын

This Caravan case study covers scope testing camshaft and crankshaft sensor signals while diagnosing a timing misalignment code, a valuable skill for all makes and models. I also got the chance to introduce you to iATN, and how beneficial it can be as an information resource during diagnostics. The information I found there was a huge part of making a confident call on this vehicle.
Engine Performance Diagnostics chapter 21
Symptoms
- check engine light (P0032, P0344, P0016)
- cutting out/surging off idle
- intermittent long crank time
Fix
- replace camshaft sensor reluctor (part of the timing chain sprocket)
Tests shown
- using scan data to evaluate a cam/crank timing issue
- how to scope the cam and crank sensor signals
- how to compare a cam/crank waveform to a known good
- understanding changes in Chrysler cam/crank sensor reluctors
- using injector and coil firing events on a lab scope
Tools used
- scan tool
- lab scope (Picoscope Automotive 4 channel kit)
- 20:1 attenuator
- iATN.net
Playlist
- (Chapter 21) Ignition inputs, cam and crank sensors
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@SS-U23
@SS-U23 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Sir. I am going through the same kind of engine performance issue, and the code that is set by the PCM is P0016, which is cam sensor, crank sensor correlation. The information about this issue you shared with us was more than being great and helpful. I learned new things today through your awesome teaching and I really thank you so much for providing us with such videos. Thank you again and God bless you.
@edgarvicencio8518
@edgarvicencio8518 7 жыл бұрын
Great Video it helped me out a lot after having to replace an engine on a 2005 Dodge Caravan 3.3l engine . replaced the engine with a 2003 caravan and the engine stuttered when close too 2500rpm. but saw this video and sure enough the timing camshaft sprocket was different. just replaced the sprocket and runs like a champ Cel light went off as well. thanks again.
@KillJD
@KillJD 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. I love stuff like this. I'm an auto technician and I'm in the process of saving up for a picoscope. I think it's imperative that techs learn how to use a scope, especially since cars are getting more and more complex. Thanks man!
@skippotter1947
@skippotter1947 11 жыл бұрын
This video is a great teaching tool for young students. It demostrates clearly that to be a great technician you need a full tech education foundation, the right tools, advanced reasoning skills and lots of iATN friends.
@rickbauza
@rickbauza 11 жыл бұрын
paul i became a member on the I.A.T.N website.what an awesome website for technicians to get valuable information. it helps others help you and you can help others as well.in this business you never stop learning. and when you are on flat rate system every bit of help is greatfully appreciated when you run into a stubborn vehicle every now and then you come across you. thank you for all your videos and thank you for letting us know about the I.A.T.N website. thank you rick bauza.
@richardmcwhirter9396
@richardmcwhirter9396 7 жыл бұрын
That brings me back bad memories!I had a similar experience where a customer brought me a flywheel and clutch to fit on a ford mondeo one Christmas eve,I stupidly didn't compare the pick up notches on the flywheel and it wouldn't start,so having to do that twice gave me a good lesson,great video and explanation thanks
@billrimmer5596
@billrimmer5596 7 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Treasure trove of info. Looking at cam gear and seeing the notches and how they should correspond with the scope pattern. I watch these older videos a second and third time and I understand them more completely. This and premium channel r great!!
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill!
@troostben
@troostben 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, keep the case studies coming! I just had a Hyundai XG-300, 3 liter DOHC engine that I diagnosed using your checking for a jumped timing belt/chain! I used a Verus with transducer and ignition signal from same cylinder to verify timing was off 20.2 degrees! I kept going back to your vid for the math! The sweet part,....10 minutes, clean hands and 100% sure the cover has to come off! The reluctor that is roll pinned to the crank/timing gear came loose. Awesome!
@edlarsen5416
@edlarsen5416 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent information! Thanks for taking the time to put together these videos, Briteskyz!
@jeffmclowry
@jeffmclowry 10 жыл бұрын
Everyone that repairs late model cars and such has to learn this lesson: Examine every part you replace and make absolutely sure the replacement is exactly like the old piece. Even us old timers have to relearn this one from time to time. Nothing worse than creating your own nightmare/never leave problem.
@MrJgonzalez2
@MrJgonzalez2 11 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy all your videos, all the way from the neon injector case. Your methods are very logical, rule out whats right and its only a matter of time before you find whats wrong.Merry Christmas to you and your family and God bless you.
@duanedonaldson2262
@duanedonaldson2262 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry I did not read all posts but this is another case of parts verification by visual inspection. I have also seen this problem with a full used engine swap and keeping your original computer and maybe doing a job similar to this story and not checking parts with a fine tooth comb. Great find Paul.
@stephenatherton8811
@stephenatherton8811 4 жыл бұрын
That change in pattern was most likely when they went to the NGC controller from the previous one. Earlier design can be identified by a two-connector computer. NGC units, whether on a truck, car, van, SUV or whatever, had four connectors.
@GRUSSNewton
@GRUSSNewton 11 жыл бұрын
It's fantastic how the Internet has changed the automotive world! Fantastic video as always Paul with lots of nice detail and I see you finally got some coloured pico leads!
@DJDevon3
@DJDevon3 11 жыл бұрын
Wish I could afford a scope. What a great twist. I would have never expected that to be the culprit. Very entertaining and as always I learned a lot, thank you.
@SuperCarfix
@SuperCarfix 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent upload. Thank you Paul,you are amazing at what you do. Merry Xmas
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 11 жыл бұрын
don't feel that way my friend. those were valid and good questions. Gas Direct Injection changes things too. Now we fire the injector during the compression stroke at times.
@philipwalasek3112
@philipwalasek3112 8 жыл бұрын
Very good information, received much help from the information so that I could solve the same problem on a car I changed the engine on. thanks
@josephbreneman876
@josephbreneman876 9 жыл бұрын
Great video. EXTREMELY helpful. Thank You. I'm having the same problem, and I totally overlooked the cam sprocket sensor spacings. found out they put an '02 engine in an '04 caravan. Was about ready to tear the trans. out to check for cracked flexplate before I happened upon this vid.
@ScannerDannerPremium
@ScannerDannerPremium 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Glad this helped!
@mariamelissari939
@mariamelissari939 4 жыл бұрын
champion saved me lots of time i was supplied a 3.3 2003 and i did notice the flex plate spacing was closer like the one in your upload and as anyone would think put your original flywheel as i did with the larger spacers 3.3 2005 so there's a change in the type of engine timing here so i go ahead and fit this 2003 engine... sure enough, i get caught out there's a po016 and po344 code symptoms won't idle and rpm is limited @2200 the engine sounds smooth and can get the rpm down to 700rpm holding the accelerator but not on its own so i tried the old sensors and didn't change anything the timing gears are different from 03 to 05 in this case even if the Y in the 11th digit of the chassic is the same it don't mean it's necessarily the write engine. thank you
@kevtaylor59
@kevtaylor59 11 жыл бұрын
Merry Xmas to you and your family Paul, I look forward to watching your video's (and learning ) in 2013.
@antegas
@antegas 11 жыл бұрын
As usual! Excellent vid. Thank you very much! Paul. And Merry Christmas
@bgregg55
@bgregg55 11 жыл бұрын
Nice sleuthing. And an excellent lesson to always verify that the new part is exactly the same as the one it's replacing.
@jeffsmopar1
@jeffsmopar1 11 жыл бұрын
Iatn rocks! I've been using it for over ten yrs! I wouldn't be the tech I am if I didn't use it! It's so important in this industry today to have other guys and gals in the trenches to share tips and ideas with! The timing references changed on alot of chryslers platforms when they switched form the SBEC pcms to the NGC controllers from what I remeber when I worked for chrysler! It's a big headache for alot of the 2.7 swaps especially
@fmwiebe
@fmwiebe 11 жыл бұрын
Great video. I ran into this trying to swap an engine from a 2000 300 into an Intrepid. Stupid things had different cam timings. Same year. Frustrating.... Thanks for the posy
@yomerocatotero
@yomerocatotero 9 жыл бұрын
thank you very much man!!! awesome job! keep up the good job.
@1mouse3
@1mouse3 8 жыл бұрын
this is good info and wish I had a scope. ran into a similar problem before on a 05 300 with 3.5l out of a so called 04, it had no injector or coil signal when I got the job. It was a job someone else abandoned after swap, it had a replaced cam an crank sensor. looked it over kinda stumped because it had signal from the sensors, what got me thinking was the plenum got swap. that made me about a old b16 swap into a civic I did before an found a obd0 and obd1 distributors had different crank angle correlations. The salvage that the owner got the motor from ended up swapping the motor under warranty due to wrong year sold after coming to the same conclusion.
@redsson6669
@redsson6669 11 жыл бұрын
absolutely makes sense, feel alil stupid rite now lol, ok i didnt know if there was any relation to spark and injector timing as far as distance from eachother on a scope. thx paul
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 11 жыл бұрын
thank you Jason. that is a good question and 1 that you may want to ask them. The idea of that site is for experienced technicians to communicate with each other. as you continue to learn and work on cars I would say that that qualifies you to be part of that network
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kev Merry Christmas to you too
@randhawaj1
@randhawaj1 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent video again thanks Paul
@ciaranlowe5547
@ciaranlowe5547 11 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for explaining this diagnosis very well. SKID
@TRcustomengineering
@TRcustomengineering 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for a fantastic video!
@regnice01
@regnice01 11 жыл бұрын
Happy Hoildays to you and your family Paul!
@blackwell1384
@blackwell1384 11 жыл бұрын
great video I really enjoy these videos. I am not a tech but I became interested in this aspect of auto repair when I had a cel that my tech couldn't figure out. Fixed with a tip from etch forum. 02 tahoe with a flashing cel while towing. po300 code showing a misfire on each bank that I could not feel when driving. The engine was never apart. The tip was to do a crank sensor relearn. My shop said they would try it and it now sounds different(?) and has never set another code.
@NobodyAskedForThis
@NobodyAskedForThis 6 жыл бұрын
Extended oil change intervals, oil consumption problems, those are a couple of reasons that the most common cause I'm finding for a P0016 and/or P0017 is a worn timing chain. In fact, an Odyssey came into my shop with an unrelated problem. While watching the data list I noticed misfires being counted on only one bank. No codes. No fuel trim problems and not really any vibrations to speak of. What was wrong? Last visit another tech did a piston ring job under warranty and had a cam off a tooth. Remember, the only symptom was misfires being counted. No DTC's, no other symptoms and I discovered it by accident, really.
@megamediker
@megamediker 8 жыл бұрын
Hey man that is sure great. I am IT guy trying to get my voyager running again. Great lesson!! The problem that I have are worne sensors, but now I know how all of that works together. So thank You so much, even though this tube is abotu 4 years old. Regards Roland from good old Germany. So it's going around the world, only alians are missing. :-)))
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 8 жыл бұрын
Cool man. Thanks!
@FLBill
@FLBill 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed vid. I have a 2004 Sebring 2.7 I just posted some cam/ckp captures in the library on iATN. They look really messy. I wanted to get a second opinion on them. I was wondering if maybe it is just some system noise. Thanks. FL BIll
@danielthechskid
@danielthechskid 4 жыл бұрын
This video is how I first learned of the pattern change, and I am on my 4th vehicle with the 3.3 with over 200k miles on each. A 92, 95, 97, and 08. One detail that I can't pin down for sure though on the old design is whether it is the rising or falling edge of each crank pulse that determines the base ignition timing, The most that I have found is a Google books result that claims the slots are on a 20° on center spacing with the leading edges at 69, 49, 29, and 9° BTDC. Leading edge would lead me to believe that it is the rising edge of the 4th pulse that matters and that the trailing/falling edge of the 4th should be pretty close to TDC. What lead to this was a Dodge Diplomat I saw for sale online that suffered a minor engine fire and is in need of harness replacement which triggered a thought experiment on if it would be possible to slap the appropriate crank and cam tone rings on the old slant 6 and use an OBD II 3.3/3.5/3.8 SKIMless SBEC on it to make it sequential port EFI with DIS. Preferably the LH car version as those have 4 O2 sensors and 2 logical banks which for the \6 would be the front 3 cylinders as one bank and the back three as the other. Knowing where the waveforms and thus the trigger slots are in relation to TDC would thus be critical to get the proper ignition timing. The cylinder numbering would be wrong for the purposes of cylinder specific DTCs and injector wiring (logical 1 would be physical 1, 2 would be 5, 3 would be 3, 4 would be 6, 5 would be 2, and 6 would be 4) but it should work.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 11 жыл бұрын
The injectors fire right before the intake valve opens, so spark and injection pulse never line up on a MPFI system So that wouldn't help. There are other methods to ID cam timing. Check out my "jumped timing chain case study"
@steveguest8028
@steveguest8028 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul,are the different cut outs on the cam sprocket used to identify the TDC position of the pistons in various cylinders ?.....Great video as usual...Thank you 👍🏻
@KeithSWD
@KeithSWD 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for yet another great vid on Chrysler! Tell me Danner, can a bad PT Cruiser (2006) clutch cable cause an RPM to shoot up or increase when a clutch is depressed?
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 11 жыл бұрын
I haven't forgotten my friend. I've just been working on my lecture videos and I have less than half of it done. Until I finish them, I will not be doing a lot of case studies. Although I am working on uploading a few older ones I have that I've been sitting on.
@serchmarc
@serchmarc 11 жыл бұрын
amazing I VE NEVER THOUGHT THAT
@MrFer1965
@MrFer1965 11 жыл бұрын
thank you, excellent info, to learn
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you Skip!
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 11 жыл бұрын
thank you my friend
@zxtenn
@zxtenn 11 жыл бұрын
PERFECT example that part changers NEED to know compatibility from year to year, gotta love junk yards, sometimes you need to wonder if the money saved is worth it? Measure/check 2X cut once
@everettornelas311
@everettornelas311 6 жыл бұрын
I want a scope. Love it. wish I had a scope before I started on my 94 Dakota. But how do you you adjust the air gap . and would rand r ing a transmison and not marking marks on flwwheel an or changing with a newer torque converter outof a97 dodge 1500 flywheelwheel stayed.would it cause cam crank my timing isuess. Thankou.Everet Orneals
@redsson6669
@redsson6669 11 жыл бұрын
hey paul, another great video, now if the cam sensor and crank sensor were good, is there a specific pattern between the injectors and the coil's firing? would they line up exactly with each other or maybe just slightly off of each other?
@rockstr66
@rockstr66 10 жыл бұрын
2003 Durango 4.7 litre. Was getting cam sensor code and then later crank sensor codes. Then second time cam sensor codes P034 and P0344. Ticking noise in the morning or the engine is cold. Have already put in 2 cam sensors with the codes still coming back. Thinking that maybe the timing chain has slack and is setting the cam codes. Car usually runs fine, but recently dropped power on the highway and once the engine died at low rpm driving. Should I be looking at chain tensioners or chain at 164k miles? Thanks for your help!
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 11 жыл бұрын
no problem, thank you!
@seansmith-er8sq
@seansmith-er8sq 7 жыл бұрын
hey i have some questions ask u i have 2005 chrysler town and country Lx van has 3.3l engine we have no spark and wont start just changed tham crank sensor have not changed the cam sensor yet didnt know if that be my problem it has new coil on it also help thanks
@jerome82williams
@jerome82williams 6 жыл бұрын
All I can say is good job again for beginning for me
@jerome82williams
@jerome82williams 6 жыл бұрын
Like u say...when know t circuit
@DuvanOrozcoQ45
@DuvanOrozcoQ45 9 жыл бұрын
I go check the sensor for see is good or no, thanks
@hddm3
@hddm3 11 жыл бұрын
you are the man
@MrFishface5
@MrFishface5 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yes they did the same thing with the 2.7 v6 timing sprocket certain years were different windows but the same timing marks
@alekstolstoi
@alekstolstoi 7 жыл бұрын
but why on the right side of the screen says crnk and cam synch no???? even when the engine is running...
@gmtgmt123
@gmtgmt123 11 жыл бұрын
i have delt with this type of problem before and it can be a pain in the rear end to find if your code dosent say missalignment or out of sync and this model has problems with cam and crank sensors failing
@pabloarevalodelaguila8767
@pabloarevalodelaguila8767 3 жыл бұрын
EXCELENTE
@danman5741
@danman5741 8 ай бұрын
Hey man i have an 05 dodge caravan p0335 i replaced the crankshaft position sensor and the same code keeps coming up. Before i replaced it the van would start right up but after with the new one it cranks for a little bit then it start. Any idea what coud be wrong? Thanks
@shannonfox344
@shannonfox344 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine that...I have the exact same problem (after the salvage yard swore up and down the only thing I had to change was the flywheel) thanks for the awesome help One question did they drill the head to accept the EGR valve as I had to do on this one?
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 4 жыл бұрын
I don't remember anything like that, but I didn't do the job
@SteveRobReviews
@SteveRobReviews 11 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Thanks !!
@largecod6758
@largecod6758 10 жыл бұрын
I have a 3.3l 2005 and it had no performance and very bad fuel consumption. No engine fault light on. Read about a guy in australia who had same problem,turned out to be flex plate. Unbolted trans and put long studs into bell housing and slid the trans back. No need to remove just had enough room to remove flex plate. Flex plate looked good until put it onto the floor and the centre fell out. Compared with new one the crank tdc was about 20 degrees out. Fitted trans and tested,lots of power but now engine light on,,,p0016 fault code. Remove fault but comes straight back. Maybe cam and crank senors need calibrating. Does anybody now how to do this. thanks
@markferraro5250
@markferraro5250 10 жыл бұрын
great video paul it believe it has something to do with an older SBEC pcm verses a newer NGC next generation controller pcm NGC pcm has 4 38 pin connectors on pcm SBEC pcm has 2 40 pin conectors on pcm.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 11 жыл бұрын
i wanted to use my picoscope this time because of my extensive wavform library i have stored on my hard drive. Just for easier comparison. turns out i didn't have a known good on this engine anyway.
@jrvehicleservices
@jrvehicleservices 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan, quick question. I have a customer car in with exactly this fault. Once again engine was replaced with an earlier model. Sounds exactly the same as yours when revving, starts surging. However I have disconnected the cam sensor and it still does exactly the same (with a prolonged start). How comes disconnecting it hasn’t caused a change? I.e how would it still know to run lumpy. I’m just dreading the flywheel being the problem!
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 жыл бұрын
I would think a long crank time would be normal reaction to a disconnected cam sensor, typically it is and some cars won't even start without it. (BTW my last name is Danner, first name Paul :-)) but I get Dan a lot. Just thought you would want to know.
@DuvanOrozcoQ45
@DuvanOrozcoQ45 9 жыл бұрын
I am thinking put agame the old cam right sprokect because i dont understand what hapening me dobbel check the old And new is the same And dobbel check all timing marks
@soocooool
@soocooool 10 жыл бұрын
Paul, I have 2008 Chrysler 300 and it was running fine till it got really cold outside ( -30 -40 degree ) and yes I'm from Canada, and I when I went to start it in the morning it BARELY started , it was struggling to starts , so I left it running for 10 min to warm up then I started driving it , the engine light came on with the code " P0016 Camshaft\Crankshaft timing misalignment - Bank 1 Sensor 1". And I got to the highway I found out that after reaching 80 km speed it hesitates , glitches , breaks up , shakes when I remove my foot from the gas. so do u think the cold weather killed the sensors ? or it was just a coincidence ? should I wait till it gets lil bit warm and see what happens? oh other symptoms : -The traction systems light came on at the same time. - The engine light fleshes for 9 or 10 times. Any help will be really appreciate it. thanks
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 10 жыл бұрын
First thing. The traction control light will come on any time the engine light comes on. This is because the PCM is involved in traction control. Fix the CEL and you will fix the traction control issue. Now about that code. What engine is in this? Is it a chain or belt engine? If it is a chain engine and uses hydraulic chain tensioners, very thick cold oil (especially the wrong viscosity) could have allowed the chain to jump a tooth.
@bdtews
@bdtews 6 жыл бұрын
Grand caravan 3.8...has a miss on cold/ cool startup. New plugs and wires. P0301. Scanner shows cam/ crank not synched at start and also cam signal last lost. Freeze data shows P0301 set at 250rpm in open loop. I did swap plug and wire to another cyl. Leaning to cam sensor replacement... Any feedback?
@bdtews
@bdtews 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yes... 2005. Miss is "new" and no timing chain replaced.
@Turbotomass
@Turbotomass 11 жыл бұрын
So the lesson here is that the outside notches need to line up w/ the old gears notches when doing a chain on a caravan?
@wildwoodtop
@wildwoodtop 2 жыл бұрын
(why would only Bank 1 be throwing codes in this scenario) Sir I took my 08 CTS in for inspection check engine light was on Garage says they think the reluctor wheel has shifted throwing the code. If I don't do anything what do you predict the longevity to be (they said the repair would be quite pricey or more feasible to do an engine swap) Thoughts 🤔(I had the timing chain, tensioners and guides replaced 3 years ago)
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to say but you'll definitely kill your cat if you're driving around with a jumped chain
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 11 жыл бұрын
no, think about the four stroke principle. intake, compression, power, exhaust. each one being 180 degrees of crank rotation. so if you think about it the injection is occurring no ware near the spark timing. I guess around 180 off at least. you wouldn't be able to compare the injection timing to the spark timing for jumped timing chain or belt ID. every system is different.
@redsson6669
@redsson6669 11 жыл бұрын
ok so then the injector would fire rite before the coil, correct?
@DuvanOrozcoQ45
@DuvanOrozcoQ45 9 жыл бұрын
Camshaft position sensor A Circuit Intermittent (Bank1 or single sensor)
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 9 жыл бұрын
Common problem is cam and crank sensor failures. Did you scope the signals to see what they look like? You may just need a new sensor
@import0408
@import0408 11 жыл бұрын
Does identifix have this wave form library
@gillsgarage
@gillsgarage 9 жыл бұрын
HI MATE ,JUST WONDERING ON THIS PARTICULAR VEHICLE ,WHAT SHOULD THE CAM CRANK DIFFERENCE BE ,AS I HAVE -18 DEGRESS ON ONE HERE IN MY WORKSHOP WITH NO ENGINE LIGHT AND POOR PERFORMANCE ,NO MISSING ,JUST SEEMS RETARDED IN TIMING TO ME. CHEERS BRETT
@bash5995
@bash5995 11 жыл бұрын
Where do you get your library of schematics?
@donlankford4315
@donlankford4315 9 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr Danner, I have a 2007 Chrysler 4.0 recently had cam belt changed, getting a poo16 code.. I was getting this code before the belt change, the oem belt was stretched and wp was leaking. Now with new gates kit still have this code.. And what really ticks me off just took it to dealer and they can't find any reason for it to set the code.. I will be jobless in 30 days and done need to be wasting money on them not Finding anything. I will say both crank and cam sensors have been changed to.. Sure wish I had a scope.. I do have a Autel ms905 and a matco scanner.. Which I did a cam /crank relearn with them and no luck.. I even asked the dealer to scope the sensors, thier reply was I dont know if our techs have a scope.. This thing is driving me nuts.. Any suggestions.. Ty vm and love the training videos..
@ScannerDannerPremium
@ScannerDannerPremium 9 жыл бұрын
Don Lankford post this on my forum on my website. Include year make and model please (2007 Chrylser ??? 4.0). I'll try to help you over there. Thanks!!
@carlosnorris7377
@carlosnorris7377 7 жыл бұрын
Changed from 16 tooth to 32 in 04 .
@soocooool
@soocooool 10 жыл бұрын
My bad , it turned out that my car actually has a belt ,, not a chain :) Thanks
@DuvanOrozcoQ45
@DuvanOrozcoQ45 9 жыл бұрын
Hi i overhauling the ingine jeep 3.7 me change all sproket And chain me dobbel check the timing marks is good. Whend me start the car me Look the code p0344 ? The reluctor in the cam sproket right is the same to the old ?
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 9 жыл бұрын
What is the definition of P0344?
@danpettis1675
@danpettis1675 6 жыл бұрын
ScannerDanner I'm getting the p0340 code on my 06 jeep liberty. I pulled the cam sensor and it doesn't start. Plugged it back in.i did the same with the crank sensor. And it didn't start either
@troostben
@troostben 11 жыл бұрын
Customer tried to change his own balancer! In the process of trying to pull it off, the timing gear came out with the balancer,......the reluctor stayed because it just happened to be in the window off the hall effect crank sensor! Sheered off the 2 roll pins! Computer was firing coil at the wrong time,.....20 degrees ATDC!
@soocooool
@soocooool 10 жыл бұрын
It has 3.5L engine , and I think ya it is a chain , So if actually it did skip a tooth , how is that can be fix ?! Is it easy ?! Or I need a dealer to be involved ?! Thanks for the quick reply and thanks for your time
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 10 жыл бұрын
If it is a chain engine, it is most likely not a small job. You can do a cam-crank relationship waveform with a scope to confirm.
@soocooool
@soocooool 10 жыл бұрын
ScannerDanner If I had the equipments :( I only have Multimeter and Innova ABS/SRS + OBD2 Diagnostic Tool :D ,, not sure if that will gonna do it... well my other option is to replace both senores and hopefully will be lucky and that resolve the issue.
@jason200792able
@jason200792able 11 жыл бұрын
Hi paul. I have your ebook and it is awesome. Im learning a lot watching your videos. Can anybody join iatn or just experienced mechanics?
@vincebauer4777
@vincebauer4777 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't no they skipped like that on the cam I just look at 1 last week told them the cam sencer was bad I gess my modus was wrong on the wave form it said 1 2 3 and repeated ok i gess snap on was wrong shit and it ran great to thanks agian danner
@vincebauer4777
@vincebauer4777 7 жыл бұрын
great video I need to get that iatn
@taketheoathwwg1wga565
@taketheoathwwg1wga565 5 жыл бұрын
That motor sounds like shit..
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