I think the emotes popping up in the video while you're talking were cute, but the sound effects are a touch too loud IMO. I personally found it distracting. Always love these meta videos, and this one was especially interesting because of the insane meta we're currently in.

this is the most intresting video/meta of the year, everything is so messed up, everything works yet everything doesn't, I love it

actually just the best understander of the meta and Arishem's influence

On the one hand, I agree that it doesn't make logical sense that Arishem needs a nerf when we don't know how powerful he is. On the other hand, something I learned from Hearthstone is that popularity, not power, is the main reason to nerf something in a CCG. People don't really care if something is powerful but they rarely lose to it - the Namora deck I used to get to Infinite and get my first Infinite Conquest victory is a great example. What people hate is the perception that they are losing to the same thing over and over again. Unfortunately, because people remember losing more than they remember winning, this means that a 50% winrate archetype that makes up 20% of the meta will generate far more anger than a 60% winrate deck that takes up 2% of the meta. I suspect SD will ride out the season and see how Arishem's playrate fares once Deadpool stuff drops, but if he's still prominent, and maybe even distracts from people trying out the new cards, I'd guess we see a nerf with the first OTA. It might not even be a consequential nerf - take a power or two off of Arishem, for example - just something to make people wonder whether it's time to enjoy something else.

Meanwhile, I'm playing Mr. Negative because I finally got my gold split on the 14th try. Proud parent moment.

My SP suffered tremendously but Im having fun it's weird

Cassandra nova existing and free will be the nerf

Love these videos! Unfortunately the emote noises are a bit over powered in terms of audio balance

I've been playing Arishem to farm bios for my favourite character's cards so my deck has no synergy and Arishem is filling in the gaps but it's interesting to see ways to develop my deck. The early Sera inclusion sounds really cool.

Once the "Arishem and nothing else" meta dies down, Id be curious to see how Adam Warlock plays in them. Its been in my deck for a while and seems great when I draw him at a good time and id love to see the stats on it

I don't think Arishem is OP but oh boy is it not fun to play against the same handful of tech cards over and over again with other wild variance thrown in. Maybe I've just had bad luck, but I've never complained about Loki, this seems way more egregious for some reason, I always feel in the dark.

I found some success with a hand deleting Arishem deck. This was inspired by your concept of "fixing a problem" that a deck has. Silver Samurai and Moon Knight can be awkward for both players, but since Arishem already plays Agent Colsen and Nick Fury your hand refills very quickly. Plus, Nick Fury with Quin Jet can get out an early Odin to discard even more cards. Unfortunately, it has low cube equity and a very poor mirror match up, so I'm excited to try again when the Arishem hype dies down.

I get what you are saying about Loki not being optimal in Arishem. I played it because that's just what I was finding and recommended by the auto builder and don't really have time to research deeper than this when I just want to play but it was Indeed not great. I did leave out Darkhawk though because I didn't want to just counter mirror play. Another reason I played Loki is also I'm missing some of the other key tech cards. Nocturne was everywhere, as well as Legion but I just don't have them so I ended up with a worse Arishem experience even though I did surprisingly well but I suspect it's because everyone was playing it so maybe skill was just the key difference.

as somebody who wasnt personally interested in playing arisham ive just been jamming pixie asgardians and thanks to rarely running into mobius its actually been doing amazing for me against all the arisham decks. which have been nearly 100% of my matches in gold/infinite conquest just from own experience i definitely dont see the deck needing a nerf cause its too strong and im sure the playrate is gonna drop, especially with all the mirrors

I think the biggest culprit here is these 3 cards; Blob, Mystique and Rogue. It's mind-boggling that copying an ongoing will trigger its "on reveal" effect. To clean this, and for the sake of spaghetti codes, they should just delete the ongoing effect of Blob, it doesn't do anything, Blob is either the last card you will drop and it has no synergy with move deck to begin with. The "can't be moved" effect is just flavor because Blob is heavyweight, as if he outweighs Galactus, Infinaut and Arishem himself and these cards don't even have that effect.

Black Swan bounce is a blast to watch, but I know I'm not smart enough to pilot it.

I have been struggling to find a foothold against Arashim. Thank you for some new tools to try. If I could ask a question: how is Cosmo to protect a T5 Darkhawk situated in this meta?

The new season climb will be a nightmare since everything is viable and Idk what to tech against with all the Ari randomness. But I've had a lot of fun with Arishem :P

I like Rouge as a tech not only for Darkhawk but also as a statstick you can play on the last turn against Blob.

Kind of fascinating, have we ever had a card release that's had such an immediate and profound impact on the meta?

I’m just sad that everything novel devolves into a pile of tech cards, especially when Leech lifts his nasty little green fingers.

Breath of fresh air as always Jeff. Seeing other creators just "insert Loki here" playing off against each other at the top 20 is just getting embarrassing and they are becoming less and less relatable which is inevitably killing off their own content. Keep up the good work sir!

I played that exact clutter deck from rank 17000 to 2000 and it is very very strong but it gets hard to climb with the higher you rank up because it really only ever wins 2 cubes since it is so telegraphed

The bounce deck is very fun to play, lots of interesting decisions to make. Ngl, it feels pretty good to drop 30+ power on turn 6, when oppo playing Arishem thinks one big card is enough for them to win :D

Arishem has killed my desire to play snap because regardless of what the metrics are saying, my personal play experience is "golly I hope this Arishem deck doesn't draw one of the 12 tech cards they can play with the extra energy that makes my deck irrelevant." and I've kind of just stopped caring which is the ultimate killer of any live service games. I just truly don't want to play or spend money because who gives a fuck when I play against Sera Control + 12 extra random nonsense.

Why do I hear Banjos? I'm reminded of a recent Ban/Restricted announcement from MTG. Where they said "here's a lot going on in Timeless right now. None of it is remotely fair, but so far, it all seems fairly balanced." And that's what Arishem feels like it's brought to Marvel Snap.

Yeah the constant mirrors and Darkhawk counters kind of dampen the fun and accuracy of how good Arishem is. I’m not sure how people are drawing conclusions from it.

It's awesome how I have played this game for more than a year and I don't have any of those decks

I still dont quite get where all the stats are coming from. I only play on my ipad. Ive been using a Namora deck with Captain Marvel, and thats quite fun. Still wondering if i want Arishem. Im saving for Thanos in spotlight and Annihilus with tokens…

This is the sweetest week SNAP has even been. Yet, of course people are shoving Darkhawk everywhere against our sweet new fun shiny toy.

Cassandra Nova dropping soon for Darkhawk#2

Great round up as always! Love the deck suggestions!

Doesn't need a nerf. It's akin to hela..when it pops off it pops off but so many arishem games are literally them passing turns 1-3 lol 😂

Arishem isnt op imo (or maybe im not good at the game) but he's so damn fun to play

Excellent review Jeff, totally on point and your perspectives are not only unique but also veritable ❤👍👏🤩

A lot of the arishem discussion reminds me of early loki when the people complaining were losing to the mirror and their opponent getting multiple 20 power collectors. Im not playing darkhawk, blob or any tech cards that kill me and my arishem games go pretty well cause their lokis dont get anything of value.

How about this clutter cannonball deckwith the other one Clutter with sersi? Preference? Performance? which one do you recommend? 😃 thx as always

Its a cool new toy. Give it some time and see what happens. It's hardly a powerhouse

Jeff, did Snap become particularly hard to get into over the last year? I took a break from it for about a year, and coming back it only took me an afternoon to catch up on series 3, and it feels like there are so many series 5 cards now.

Cosmo,Darkhawk and mystique enough to beat arishem

Finally I am at the point where I can make majority of these decks. This is most definitely the best meta game we have had.

Arishem doesnt need to get nerfed....its just made playing against it over and over pretty boring.

I got distracted away from what you were saying every time those emote react sounds appeared + now I’m left with the association like someone just Ms Marvel emoted me

Blob/ Zola/ Taskmaster seem like great inclusions to me

As long as Darkhawk exists, i don’t think arishem will be op, because it has a natural predator. It’s the same sort of thing with Zoo and killmonger.

Arishem is way OP, definitely nerf him to 7 cost 6 power, lol :)

Arishem is op guys. Eventually he get will get nerf

best counter is cark hawk clutter :D

I’ve been playing Evo and Arishem, without Loki, but with DH. It’s been great and I’m beating other Arishem decks pretty consistently Edit: oh, you show the exact list haha. I swapped Leech for Darkhawk

I've found Arishem is great with Dr. Octopus instead of Loki.

The only reasonable nerf I could think of for arishem is just making it start in your hand

Darkhwak.

good stuff as always

I’m loving arishem. The most fun I’ve had with a card

Sadly while I liked Namora in the deck, one of the few cards I don’t have, and doesn’t seem to have a similar sub function wise.

I think Darkhawk is the nerf

Does Arishem need a NERF? Nah, Nerf Blob and Dark Hawk. What would nerf Arishem? Give it more cards? It would only buff Blob and Dark Hawk, give it less cards? Then that's a buff. You can't even nerf his power since nobody plays Arishem on Tempo. 🤣 Arishem might be crazier than the Loki meta. But don't worry guys, if Arishem is still prominent till next season, I'm sure Cassandra is about to kill this Celestial.

What do you think about Wong receiving the same Nerf as Zabu? Even without the Mystique/Odin combo, he's getting a bit OP.

If they think it’s warranted, Please nerf the problem cards around Arishem not the card itself. I know it’s too early but here we go Quinjet, lockjaw, space stone > Thanos. Evolved Wasp, hulk, thing >HE Hawk, Blob, mystique/rogue/loki>Arishem I’m backing up my point with previous nerf patterns. Idk I like the card but let us have our fun with him.

Worst meta ive seen since zabu was -2 cost

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