Does Capcom Truly HATE Mega Man? - Examining the State of the Franchise in Early 2024 - Mega News

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In this special episode of Mega News, we take a deep dive into the history leading us up to the state of the Mega Man franchise in early 2024. Answering several questions and sentiments shared around the community along the way. Why doesn't Capcom just make yearly sequels like they used to? Are the Legacy Collections quick cash grabs? Is Mega Man... niche!? Here is SR's take!
Sources / Reference links:
Capcom Town Super Elections: captown.capcom.com/en
Super Elections with TMMN: themmnetwork.com/2024/02/07/l...
Official Capcom Platinum Titles Site: www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/b...
Official Capcom Game Series Sales Site: www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/b...
Mega Man 11 exists because of Legacy Collection 1’s success: www.rockman-corner.com/2018/0...
Capcom’s sales strategy in the 2000s: x.com/Protodude/status/135596...
Battle Network carried the franchise in the 2000s: x.com/Protodude/status/696530...
Decline of the Star Force series: www.rockman-corner.com/2008/0...
The moment Mega Man 11 dethroned Mega Man 2’s sales: www.rockman-corner.com/2022/1...
Next Mega Man game enters pre-production in 2019: www.rockman-corner.com/2018/1...
Next Mega Man Game in Development circa 2019: www.rockman-corner.com/2019/0...
Tsuchiya’s dream project before Mega Man 11: www.rockman-corner.com/2018/1...
Rockman EXE Phantom of Network Translation Announcement: forums.therockmanexezone.com/...
Mega Man 10 Prototype: www.rockman-corner.com/2024/0...
Print review of Mega Man ZX from EGM: / 1418047974911971334
X-Play Mega Man Battle Network 6 “Review”: • X-Play - Mega Man Batt...
Capcom and Inti Creates splitting up rumor: megamantad/status...
How Mega Man Universe Died: www.rockman-corner.com/2021/0...
ZX3 was in development at one time: www.rockman-corner.com/2021/1...
Mega Man Star Force 4 was in development at one time: www.rockman-corner.com/2019/0...
Capcom asks for patience during MMBN 20th: www.rockman-corner.com/2021/0...
Report from the 2020 schedule leak: www.gamesradar.com/resident-e...
Original Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney Trilogy schedule: Protodude/status/...
Inti Creates Teaser: x.com/IntiCreatesEN/status/17...
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0:00 Intro
2:00 The letter...
3:45 How we got here
13:03 Enigma DRM
15:10 The Capcom Survey
19:53 Yearly Sequels
38:54 Lazy Collections?
43:30 Why not hire Inti Creates?
48:44 What's taking so long?
54:26 Is Mega Man dead again?
55:42 Outro

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@papaG6423
@papaG6423 5 ай бұрын
How has Mega Man been simultaneously so active and yet so dormant? The franchise is in such a weird state of purgatory at the moment... I don't even know how we got to this point
@davidgusquiloor2665
@davidgusquiloor2665 5 ай бұрын
AAA gaming cost a lot more than before and AA gaming kinda died for a decade, only recently is getting back. Mega Man fits better the AA mold.
@kaizoku8087
@kaizoku8087 5 ай бұрын
@@davidgusquiloor2665Are you talking about batteries?
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
​​@@kaizoku8087no he's talking about triple A games. These games have high budget and most of them have bad quality imho.
@carlosaugusto9821
@carlosaugusto9821 5 ай бұрын
I have trouble talking about franchises that only get ports of very old releases and don't get new games. It barely can count as "alive" since it's living only through the nostalgia appeal of its golden age. It's a kind of zombie state. It's not considered valuable to gain a new game but still is convenient to use for retro rereleases and not being abandoned. Also Capcom is known for these nostalgia exploits for a long time, and not only with MM. Including the fact that very rarely the sales of those products have any important result. Ok, the video shows that MM11 apparently was made thanks to the sales of a collection... but that doesn't always happen, or even most of times. And there's still the chance that the guy wasnt being honest but trying to motivate the fans to keep buying more collections in the hope of getting new games. Like, now they are even near running out of options for MM collections and nothing happened. Not a hint of interest in even a remake of a classic game. Just like Capcom's arcade game collections that keep coming out never led to a new game. So it's nothing but abusing the hopelessly good willing fans with nostalgia exploit.
@FezFindie
@FezFindie 5 ай бұрын
@@NetBattler Often style (and overcosted celebrity voices) over substance?
@elmegahippiex9
@elmegahippiex9 5 ай бұрын
It is true that Capcom no longer trusts Mega Man as a commercial product, but I still have faith that in some millennium they will release the x9
@markvermo7523
@markvermo7523 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, Megaman will never make money as much as MH and RE. The only future for Megaman is Legacy Collection, we must keep buying Legacy Collection so they will release more Legacy Collection.
@TayoEXE
@TayoEXE 5 ай бұрын
​@@markvermo7523It might if they actually made new games (heck, even remakes) like they do with MH and RE. Of course Mega Man isn't going to be as big of a seller if they've canceled more games than they've actually released in a single decade.
@kaizoku8087
@kaizoku8087 5 ай бұрын
And legends 3 And BN7
@carlosaugusto9821
@carlosaugusto9821 5 ай бұрын
The thing is that X9, after so much time passed, became kind of inviable or inconvenient, and that situation aggraves more with time. Since a long time now I've been wondering if the best path for X wouldn't be actually a reboot-remake of this story arc of X7-X8. And then, with the context properly set to the audience, the true continuation would be made more meaningful. Maybe it would be better to "overwrite" and abandon those two embarrassments that were X7 and 8. Speaking for myself, I refused to play both to beat even half of the bosses, and I'm a big fan from the early 90s games. Those two PS2 games are absolutely shameful and I'll never respect them. Like, if I'm not mistaken X7 was released in the same time of Onimusha 2, and X8 in the same time of DMC3 and RE4... but they look like from a much smaller and amateurish company. So make something new that make people forget about those two old games, and just take the major plot points and characters.
@carlosaugusto9821
@carlosaugusto9821 5 ай бұрын
The thing is that X9, after so much time passed, became kind of inviable or inconvenient, and that situation aggraves more with time. Since a long time now I've been wondering if the best path for X wouldn't be actually a reboot-remake of this story arc of X7-X8. And then, with the context properly set to the audience, the true continuation would be made more meaningful. Maybe it would be better to "overwrite" and abandon those two embarrassments that were X7 and 8. Speaking for myself, I refused to play both to beat even half of the bosses, and I'm a big fan from the early 90s games. Those two PS2 games are absolutely shameful and I'll never respect them. Like, if I'm not mistaken X7 was released in the same time of Onimusha 2, and X8 in the same time of DMC3 and RE4... but they look like from a much smaller and amateurish company. So make something new that make people forget about those two old games, and just take the major plot points and characters.
@NameGueSapeYe
@NameGueSapeYe 5 ай бұрын
I left a comment at the end of the survey, "Rock on, Capcom! Hint hint..." All I can do at this point.
@robinsr4745
@robinsr4745 29 күн бұрын
I feel like some classic megamn content is a lock after the survey but i have no idea if they will work on a future megaman x project anytime soon.
@TeddyBebado
@TeddyBebado 5 ай бұрын
I will say it again: lack of communication is our main issue here. Heck, if Capcom would pop up, saying, "hey, we are cooking something, be patient", a lot of us would be more calm. Not a trailer, not a concept artwork, just a "something is coming" would suffice. That is all we ask for.
@hayaokakizaki4463
@hayaokakizaki4463 5 ай бұрын
Why does Capcom owe you this?
@RaphielShiraha64
@RaphielShiraha64 5 ай бұрын
You don't need to own something to a company to make them treat their fans better and with proper communication.@@hayaokakizaki4463
@vvbvgeneraltsung2913
@vvbvgeneraltsung2913 5 ай бұрын
​@@hayaokakizaki4463 they've been on a flop streak as of recent especially wasteing all that time om xdive just to make. A 30$ NON ONLINE PORT WITH EVRRYTHING INSTEAD OF JUST MAKING A MULTIPLAYER MEGAMAN LOOTER SHOOTER THATS FUN
@ABlob
@ABlob 5 ай бұрын
@@hayaokakizaki4463 Because they were betraying fans again and again, so actually building some trust with their fanbase would improve their public image, especially now.
@ImJCyo
@ImJCyo 5 ай бұрын
@@hayaokakizaki4463 Who the hell do you think buys their shit? People like you who don't understand how basic economics work should just sit down.
@Blues_Light
@Blues_Light 5 ай бұрын
Even having lived through the dark age, I'm pretty optimistic about a new title sooner rather than later. I don't think Capcom will do us that dirty again...right?
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
Megaman deserve Mario wonder treatment..
@bezoticallyyours83
@bezoticallyyours83 5 ай бұрын
🙏🏾 hopefully not
@gunvolt5246
@gunvolt5246 5 ай бұрын
I wouldn't get my hopes up
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
@@gunvolt5246 I mean it's not hurt to imagine such a thing...
@gunvolt5246
@gunvolt5246 5 ай бұрын
​@NetBattler Nothing's wrong with imagining new Mega Man titles, but between the first "dark ages" period and this current wait, we have to go through after 11, I just think it's better to not expect any new Mega Man related content from Capcom at this point (at least not for another long while).
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
Bro dropped a bomb and thought we wouldn't notice it.
@Chrisezo
@Chrisezo 5 ай бұрын
I don’t think Capcom hates Megaman, in order for you to hate something you have to care about it, but with Capcom they are just indifferent towards Megaman and has always shown they don’t really care. After the release of the 1st Megaman they didn’t even have any sequels planned out for it, if it had been up to Capcom itself the series would have died out back then, the only reason we even got Megaman 2 is because the developers for Megaman 1, were still very passionate and dedicated to making a better game than the first one, that they used their free time in between other Capcom projects, just so that they could develop Megaman 2, and when that game had a pretty good version made, Capcom released it without thinking it would even sell good, but they were pleasantly surprised with the results, which is why they basically milked the series to death, and if Capcom had cared about the series then they would have given more funding and even additional develop time, in order to make the games a better quality than what they usually were, but unfortunately that was not the case, and the series as a whole feels rushed and unfinished, since a lot of games do have good ideas and concepts, but because of a lack of proper development time they just compare to early access games, like the ones you can find on Steam, and the worst of it all was that Capcom basically made Megaman compete with itself, since each of the subseries basically rivaled itself, and it was crazy for Capcom to release so many different Megaman games within a year, and then expect fans to be able to afford them all, when the audience most of these games were selling to were basically kids and teens, and its not like that audience is part of the work force which means that the series’ lack of sales is none else’s but Capcom’s itself but they will never admit to it. I can appreciate that the collection games are being brought to modern consoles and systems, but I wish that they weren’t called collections, since they are missing many games such as the X collections missing stuff like, X Command Mission or Maverick Hunter X and the Xtreme Gameboy color games, while classic is missing the Gameboy games and even stuff like Megaman & Bass, but nobody seems to talk about that stuff, and are ok with Capcom just doing whatever they feel like, and then trying to defend them in most cases too, when if they are trying to sell us something, then they should be more convincing, and we should expect more rather than less.
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
Also Capcom Japan even goes miles to tweet a picture of Megaman in the survey...
@squallleonhart9387
@squallleonhart9387 5 ай бұрын
The amount of consistent content that Sonic has been getting after the success of the movies and frontiers, Megaman fans would be on the moon if they got what Sonic fans are getting.
@kalizwastak3n
@kalizwastak3n 5 ай бұрын
a megaman movie that succeeded would probably be amazing for the ip but knowing capcom that would never happen
@Gyrokun
@Gyrokun 5 ай бұрын
​@@kalizwastak3nit was gonna happen at one point 😢
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 5 ай бұрын
@@kalizwastak3n Mega Man sales was not on the same level as Sonic, even at 2010.
@codyraugh6599
@codyraugh6599 Ай бұрын
On the moon? We want off it damn it.
@gertytk5528
@gertytk5528 5 ай бұрын
X8 hinted at a sequel twenty years ago more than 11 did five years ago.
@Reploid.Jackson.88
@Reploid.Jackson.88 5 ай бұрын
Personally, I feel like you talked about this in a much better way Not trying to Dunk on other people, addressing this situation about whether or not MegaMan is dead or not I feel like you Addressed this pretty good & professionally, whereas others Who Cover this issue tend to Overdramatize the situation while I do agree that Capcom Needs To do more, everybody tends to be So Dramatic & Make it Seem Like It’s All Doom & Gloom, so this video is something I Kind of Needed, & it’s Easy for me to digest,
@neonthunder3261
@neonthunder3261 5 ай бұрын
Too many people overdramatize it. It's hard being a Mega Man fan when it feels like the more civil parts of the fanbase are the quietest, though I guess that goes for everything.
@papaG6423
@papaG6423 5 ай бұрын
I 100% agree. The thing is, while the series isn't providing for us in the way we were wanting/expecting, Mega Man is in a much better position than most of Capcom's other IPs. I mean, the series has proven its profitability to Capcom in a vast multitude of ways since the classic legacy collection. It's very likely that a new game will come EVENTUALLY. The real problem lies within the management of the series rather than if it's just straight up a dead IP or not. It it was dead, then we wouldn't have gotten so many collections, merch, plug n plays, crossovers, a cartoon, mobile game, a movie in the works for Netflix, etc. It's just that Capcom isn't focusing on the most important aspect of this series... Original games. In their mind, they've been providing us a ton of content, but they don't see just how lame it is to be getting everything BUT the one thing we truly want. TL;DR: "Mega Man is Dead" is overdramatizing the situation, but there's definitely an issue in the release/content management of the series.
@BassRockArchives
@BassRockArchives 5 ай бұрын
I feel like most people need to keep a clear mind sometimes, because simply saying that the franchise is dead or that it’s on life-support is too much of a stretch. I do understand the frustration that almost every franchise is getting something and mega man isn’t, but it technically doesn’t mean the IP is dead, Capcom is for sure going through hell trying to find a Director for the franchise behind the scenes, but would rather not explain it every step of the way,
@neonthunder3261
@neonthunder3261 5 ай бұрын
@@BassRockArchives 🗣
@MagillanicaLouM
@MagillanicaLouM 5 ай бұрын
@@BassRockArchives "the frustration that almost every franchise is getting something but Megaman isn't" I agree with 99% of your comment. But it's just this part opened my eyes to how much the overdramatic side of Megaman fanbase only compare it to only the few other Capcom series that do get games and don't seem to know how relatively good they have it in the grand scope of Capcom. Man I wish I lived in the timeline where Power Stone, Viewtiful Joe, Final Fight, Breath of Fire, and many others could JUST get modern/ports collections with cool QoL and features like galleries showing off concept art and merch and places to just jam to the music, and trivia sections, not even brand new games. Compared to 2012-2018 Mega Man is still eating quite a bit, game community just too hungry for new and shiny things and love going "doesn't count" to anything else.
@condimentman9533
@condimentman9533 5 ай бұрын
At least the zero series is a complete mega man series as it had an end in zero 4
@wolfdragox5563
@wolfdragox5563 5 ай бұрын
and BN too
@Uranium-jj7le
@Uranium-jj7le 5 ай бұрын
@@wolfdragox5563Star Force as well…
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
@@Uranium-jj7le but isn't star force series still not ended because sf4?
@capstalker5539
@capstalker5539 5 ай бұрын
​@@NetBattler SF3 doesn't leave any suspense, so you can think it's complete.
@bezoticallyyours83
@bezoticallyyours83 5 ай бұрын
Yup yup
@renegademikey2458
@renegademikey2458 5 ай бұрын
We need an obscure collection series covering games like MMV GB, Super Adventure Rockman, Battle & Chase, Rockboard, Soccer, MM&B & MM Legends 1 & 2 and a Vol 2. including Powered Up, Maverick Hunter, Xtreme 1 & 2, MM Power Battle & Fighters, Rockman & Forte: CFTF & Rockman EXE WS. Heck a Vol. 3 including Tron Bonne, Network Transmission, Battle Chip Challenge and all Star Force & Command Mission.
@bezoticallyyours83
@bezoticallyyours83 5 ай бұрын
Yes!
@ImJCyo
@ImJCyo 5 ай бұрын
I don't think the Covid argument stands up anymore for the following reasons: 1. Mega Man games, by your own admission, are lower budget titles that don't take too much effort to make. 2. Da Virus doesn't seem to be stopping them from pushing out more Resident Evil, Monster Hunter and Street Fighter, so remote workers aren't a problem. In fact, I'd go as far as to say remote work has actually raised worker's efficiency overall across the board, the problem is that Capcom doesn't want to do it. If they did, they would. Really, all we all really want is for Capcom to tell us what the hell is happening. They don't have to communicate TOO much, just give us a poke every anniversary to let us know what their Rock plans are. It's not hard to spare a few minutes to issue a statement on the series status.
@KyogresHideout_Vegito2121
@KyogresHideout_Vegito2121 5 ай бұрын
Exactly
@MagillanicaLouM
@MagillanicaLouM 5 ай бұрын
Well at least with street fighter, it's not been too simple. The newest game in general had a very troubled development, it was supposed to come out a couple years earlier, but internal issues and (I'm sure the coov didn't help) caused problems. Funny enough though, the guy heading MM11 was on SF6's development. Considering he left I think very close to the game's launch, I'm thinking there's some connection for why Megaman is taking a little longer than expected for a new title, but it's just me speculating.
@SaulMayDLC
@SaulMayDLC 5 ай бұрын
I don't think you know how dev cycles work. Neither are you paying attention to how those franchises have been handled. The fact mm11 was a budget game does not mean that it takes less time of development, it means that there's less people working on it. Which goes hand to hand with people wanting them to be more open with fans about the state of the franchise.
@ImJCyo
@ImJCyo 5 ай бұрын
@@SaulMayDLC they're his arguments that make no sense.
@RippahRooJizah
@RippahRooJizah 5 ай бұрын
​@@ImJCyoHis arguments make sense. Yours does provided you look at *just* covid and not on staffing and development.
@nnickplays9713
@nnickplays9713 5 ай бұрын
With the current era, i kinda dont mind the franchise being in hibernation. With modern trends itll just wind up like Suside Squad:ktjl and be a brand wrecker and id rather wait till this dark cloud passes by.
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
Care to elaborate?
@IfYouInsist
@IfYouInsist 5 ай бұрын
A lot of new games are pretty bad/mediocre. The new suicide squad game being a big example. Pretty sure he is saying he’d rather wait for the current trends to pass before the franchise comes back.
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
@@IfYouInsist pretty sure everyone will welcome Megaman because he has been hiatus in 5 years...
@VCXZ883
@VCXZ883 5 ай бұрын
Yearly releases are what put the Mega Man franchise on ice in the first place. As much as I love the GBA era and having a ton of new Mega Man games, it did lead to burnout among gamers and accusations of stagnation.
@multi-milliondollarmike5127
@multi-milliondollarmike5127 5 ай бұрын
It's honestly crazy that they were releasing a Megaman game and it's sequel in the same year at times. Not even a year and a half or 2, but within the same year. The oversaturation was crazy back in the early 2000's; but now I think they need to at least release a new game in the franchise every 3 years or so. Just releasing collections alone isn't enough in my opinion.
@kolkagaming1234
@kolkagaming1234 5 ай бұрын
At the end of August Capcom wrapped up Megaman X dive, so that means we will get either a new game, new remake or a new collection hopefully which I’m looking forward too.
@SolCresta3405
@SolCresta3405 5 ай бұрын
Considering how much they treat MegaMan Volnutt, one of the kindest and nicest characters in general…
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
Dang it
@SolCresta3405
@SolCresta3405 5 ай бұрын
@@NetBattler I know.
@Jetstorm0000
@Jetstorm0000 5 ай бұрын
Capcom doesn't hate Mega Man for sure, but you also can't really feel like they care about it right now either. Covid and other extenuating circumstances has really put the franchise in one hell of a tight spot. Now were looking at a scenario where a frighteningly similar amount of time will have passed between new full releases as the "Dark Age", but with the critical difference that this time there has been a more significant build up of fan expectation from the scraps of info we've learned both from official sources and the data leak mean people know SOMETHING was supposed to be coming. We're about to reach a dangerous intersection where unexpectedly raised fan expectations due to a lengthend dev cycle, is going to meet with what Capcom has been working on for roughly the last 5 years, and while there's hope that those things can merge relatively smoothly into a single path, there's an ever growing risk of a bloodbath of a collision the longer it takes for Capcom to show up. Of course that's assuming Taisen is still coming at all. Frankly, it depends on how much money they sank into the project by the time trouble began to hit. Remember, Capcom is a company where projects NEED people to champion them to get pushed through (even RE/MonHun, but there's no shortage of talent chomping at the bit to touch those), and Taisen very likely lost its champion when Tsuchiya got put on SF and then left. Unless they put too much in to back out now, there's a strong possibility that the reason we haven't heard much is that the project had the plug pulled, and they won't say a thing about it because they know damn well how bad the optics is gonna be if they have to announce that another MM game got canceled AGAIN. You can hold out hope for Taisen if you really want to, but you all need to be braced for the very real possibility that at this point there may be nothing on the horizon for a while, pehaps even longer than the old "Dark Age" at the rate we're headed, and they very likely won't speak a word about it until they have something else to show.
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
Megaman is in hiatus status period.
@alanbrito141
@alanbrito141 5 ай бұрын
I can never get into "Megaman inspired" games They make me want to play the real thing instead, or play some fangames, or other unrelated games
@HughAverageHomoMan
@HughAverageHomoMan 5 ай бұрын
FINALLY someone else with the same view. i'm sick of companies/studios just taking 90% of their inspiration from another game and trying to be "it but new"
@huntzxc
@huntzxc 5 ай бұрын
I never knew megaman battle network 1 and 2 are released in the same year
@CarloNassar
@CarloNassar 5 ай бұрын
8:51-8:59 Mega Man as a waifu simulator???? Uh oh, we're in trouble. Also, I totally agree with you on the amount of content that was pushed about, and I'm glad I'm not the only one to compare Mega Man to Call of Duty in that case. Though I'd say it was a problem even before the 2000's. But honestly, maybe Capcom should do more marketing and advertising for the franchise.
@subjectnivleis7572
@subjectnivleis7572 5 ай бұрын
I demand an Iris dating simulator:) What am I fighting for :)
@TheKitty699
@TheKitty699 5 ай бұрын
it's going to be Meddy fans vs Roll fans all over again
@codyraugh6599
@codyraugh6599 Ай бұрын
​@@TheKitty699the Chad Tron fans, "look at what they need to mimic a fraction if our power"
@ROCKMANX9_
@ROCKMANX9_ 5 ай бұрын
MEGAMAN X9 2024!
@OmegaCorsair
@OmegaCorsair 5 ай бұрын
It's been 20 Years....
@NTBXP1
@NTBXP1 5 ай бұрын
It will never happen.
@carlosaugusto9821
@carlosaugusto9821 5 ай бұрын
Forget it already. Change your username.
@ROCKMANX9_
@ROCKMANX9_ 5 ай бұрын
Crash Bandicoot 3 took 22 years to get 4. 1998 to 2020. I'm not giving up.
@AoiTachibana
@AoiTachibana 5 ай бұрын
i dont know about 2024, but i believe we'll see it someday
@Low_Standards_Gaming_YT
@Low_Standards_Gaming_YT 5 ай бұрын
The comments about the view of the series outside of the fandom is spot on. I can’t count the number of times I’ve worn a Megaman shirt and gotten the comment “Aw yeah dawg, I loved that on the Nintendo back in the day 99% likely referring to either 2 or any of the other nes titles coming home from a rental shop. Many are dumb founded to know about the other 80 games lol
@MrIAMNOTANOOB
@MrIAMNOTANOOB 5 ай бұрын
I watched a video called The Frustrating Culture of Dead Video Game Franchises. According to what TBP researched no Mega Man has ever sold enough copies to be on Capcom's top ten best sellers.
@Elazul2500
@Elazul2500 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I saw that video, too. Apparently, only a handful of Mega Man games has sold more than 1 million copies, whereas Street Fighter, Resident Evil and Monster Hunter sell like hotcakes with pretty much every release.
@Dramatic_Gaming
@Dramatic_Gaming 5 ай бұрын
Yep. Pretty much the long and short of it right there. Not to say that capcom doesn't shoot themselves in the foot with some stuff (battle network & star force's release schedules and unneeded extra versions), but at the root of it is that Mega Man games just don't bring in the big bucks.
@memesandhoi2924
@memesandhoi2924 5 ай бұрын
To be fair, at least Mega Man is now considered to be the 4th Best Selling franchise on their Franchises Sales page.
@MagillanicaLouM
@MagillanicaLouM 5 ай бұрын
@@Dramatic_Gaming Well there's a difference between not bringing in big bucks and just simply being surrounded by stuff that make more money lol. Even then, something like Monster Hunter to my knowledge took a very long time to reach the point it's at. It wasn't a hit at all when it first came out from what I've heard about it. As much as Capcom has shown a very money grubbing image at various points with certain controversies, I don't think the reason for Megaman's current situation is purely financial. Especially when the main man behind MM11 left the company a little bit ago, it may just be behind the scenes stuff we'll never learn about till relevant parties tell, if they do.
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
@@Elazul2500 um..not monster hunter stories though
@redstonecommander5190
@redstonecommander5190 5 ай бұрын
Of course MegaMan 11 is the only game that has a lot of changes and mechanics, better graphics, even voice acting, which is definitely weird for a classic series megaman game
@michag798
@michag798 5 ай бұрын
...And whopping two full fortress stages. They were great, but I felt like there was so little content.
@carlosaugusto9821
@carlosaugusto9821 5 ай бұрын
​@@michag798 One of the big obstacles of the franchise in my opinion is that small content scale. Because the games try to stick too hard to the same format set by the early games. And those games were too short even for that time on the NES... There were already games with much more content. But MM was carried by the revolutionary gameplay concept and the charisma of the characters (better developed in the 90s) and the music. And it seems the community became too inclined to "retro" and defensive about fresh and different ideas, meaning that the games need to continue repetitive, formulaic, and too similar to the early ones to hope to please the community. But how about the outside world from the fan base bubble? How willing is the general consumer to pay so much for waves of repetitive short barebones games? What are the success chances of this ancient model to work nowadays? In the 80s to early 00s that release model was tolerated, but things are not that easy anymore. And the thing is that there are cheap (in price) indie games with more content than the average MM and early MMX game. So that means Capcom will be kinda abusing the consumer by releasing games with "cheap indie" scale (or lower) for a bigger price, just because of MM's name. Again: how willing would the general public feel about this?
@carlosaugusto9821
@carlosaugusto9821 5 ай бұрын
​@@michag798 One of the big obstacles of the franchise in my opinion is that small content scale. Because the games try to stick too hard to the same format set by the early games. And those games were too short even for that time on the NES... There were already games with much more content. But MM was carried by the revolutionary gameplay concept and the charisma of the characters (better developed in the 90s) and the music. And it seems the community became too inclined to "retro" and defensive about fresh and different ideas, meaning that the games need to continue repetitive, formulaic, and too similar to the early ones to hope to please the community. But how about the outside world from the fan base bubble? How willing is the general consumer to pay so much for waves of repetitive short barebones games? What are the success chances of this ancient model to work nowadays? In the 80s to early 00s that release model was tolerated, but things are not that easy anymore. And the thing is that there are cheap (in price) indie games with more content than the average MM and early MMX game. So that means Capcom will be kinda abusing the consumer by releasing games with "cheap indie" scale (or lower) for a bigger price, just because of MM's name. Again: how willing would the general public feel about this?
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 5 ай бұрын
@@carlosaugusto9821 I think Capcom may have runout of ideas for Mega Man, because coming up with new powers that are fun to use is not easy. Mega Man had alot of power ups that most people didn't like.
@itzbruhere
@itzbruhere 5 ай бұрын
I'm really happy to see that we are still fully active in the community producing videos about the franchise. I'm a content creator focused on Mega Man here in Brazil and I had already made a video talking about the current situation of Mega Man. I don't know exactly what to expect from now on, but still hopeful for something new. But I really have one thought that I want to see in practice: CAPCOM URGENTLY NEEDS TO COMMUNICATE BETTER WITH THE FANS! Of course we had that survey suggesting remakes of Mega Man 1 to 3. Would you accept it? Yes, but I want sequels to each saga. There is a lot of discussion about Mega Man not being famous, but how is he not going to be famous if the company itself doesn't invest in him? CAPCOM needs to have the balls to return with the mascot.
@redstreak9430
@redstreak9430 5 ай бұрын
29:03 God why does Adam Sessler have to be so pretentious. At least he’s been consistent with it and it wasn’t just a heel turn when the G4 revival happened lol
@HenshinFanatic
@HenshinFanatic 5 ай бұрын
Comes with his political ideology.
@Monhamd1000
@Monhamd1000 5 ай бұрын
Sticking to three franchises shows how terrible Capcom is as a company, Sega leveled up and that's the only thing that they can't do.
@FusionArmorX
@FusionArmorX 5 ай бұрын
To be fair, Sega makes up for their success in being incredibly dumb at times. Sonic Frontiers was a hit, same can't be said for PSO2 New Genesis though, and the DLC shenanigans surrounding the Yak--i mean, Like A Dragon series. They're a very hit-or-miss company, and if Capcom were that kind of hit-or-miss I don't think there'd be a fanbase at this point.
@rockmanfan100
@rockmanfan100 4 ай бұрын
sega is also a hit or miss those new games going to be live service like crazy taxi that 4player sonic plays horribly sega cares about sonic but is a sucks being a "parent"
@plain1150
@plain1150 5 ай бұрын
I always wonder why do people says (insert game tittle) have the same mechenic as the old game but for sports game that appear every year with the same mechenic they like it and it's not like they can play sports irl
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
Hypocrisy..
@wolfdragox5563
@wolfdragox5563 5 ай бұрын
different standards and some undeniable bias.
@marek1shtar538
@marek1shtar538 5 ай бұрын
Big reviews just being ads. Most big review places are basically advertisements disguised as reviews whoever pays out the most wins
@carlosaugusto9821
@carlosaugusto9821 5 ай бұрын
Nowadays it's generally accepted that only a few genres can have repetitive sequels, when that tolerance was broader in the 80s and 90s. MM games are repetitive, reuse assets, and used to come out every 1-2 year. That release model is harder to be accepted today outside the circle of really hardcore MM fanboys. And Capcom actually managed to follow the modern direction and change some classic franchises like Street Fighter, which also was managed like MM in the 90s... With yearly sequels and cycles of asset recycling. SF5 must have dlc but it's not yearly releases anymore. But that's not something that can be followed by MM sadly.
@kolkagaming1234
@kolkagaming1234 5 ай бұрын
Capcom doesn’t hate Megaman, in fact no video game company hates their franchises, Capcom in their recent interview did say they are planning on what to do with the Megaman franchise, they haven’t abandoned it, but they are planning on a new game.
@ryohhibikithe9thhokage532
@ryohhibikithe9thhokage532 5 ай бұрын
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm WHERE THE HELL HAVE I HEARD THAT BEFORE WHEN IT COMES TO MEGAMAN
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
Also they're doing survey right now to remake classic games
@ryohhibikithe9thhokage532
@ryohhibikithe9thhokage532 5 ай бұрын
@@NetBattler may I kindly point you to "XBOX ARCADE" where franchises go to die sometimes
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
​@@ryohhibikithe9thhokage532? You're onto something
@megatails241
@megatails241 5 ай бұрын
And why, excuse me, don’t believe in it?
@neilpotsch1023
@neilpotsch1023 5 ай бұрын
I would certainly like to see Mega Man 1, 2, & 3 remade in 3D. Share this with Capcom, please?
@ChillstoneBlakeBlast
@ChillstoneBlakeBlast 5 ай бұрын
Another Small thing to note: Nintendo Switch seems to be on it's last legs. Of the next Megaman game is on the works, they might just leave it on the backburner until the "Switch 2" gets announced to potentially profit on that Launch title success. Battle Network 1 released as a launch title to the GBA and it did wonders for that series. Apart from 12 being a thing, I don't doubt that Battle Network 7 wouldn't be a thing in the future. I know Starforce exist and Battle Network 6's ending was a sealed one, but if the plans for Battle network Legacy Collection were delayed due to 2020, then it would make sence that more Battle Network content was pushed back as well. Every other Megaman seriea though, I pray that once day, they may get some more love...
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
I mean they could just make BN 7 alternate timeline after 6.
@ChillstoneBlakeBlast
@ChillstoneBlakeBlast 5 ай бұрын
@@NetBattler Battle Network can still be worked on easily, no doubt about it. Maybe 7 Could have us play with a Much older Lan working on Scilab or something. Maybe it could be all about Lan going to the deepest parts of the net to obtain data to create Coronel And Iris (The programs made by a Reformed Dr.Wily in the ending of 6). The antagonist will have to be someone completely new, but Ideas such as Undernet Brokers, Bass or Sentient Data (Which does exist because of Duo).
@MegaManNeo
@MegaManNeo 5 ай бұрын
I feel like MegaMan 10 would have done much much better if they went 16/32bit like they did for Shooting Star and ZX at that time. It's a real bummer the guy who was responsible for R11 to become a reality left the company but given Capcom now does everything in house and doesn't flood us with ports and remakes all the damn time, maybe there's still hope for our blue boy, whichever incarnation they choose. I did the survey yesterday and gave all my votes to MegaMan. I'd welcome enhanced remakes of 1-3 as I still really like Powered Up but my prayers lean more towards 12, Shooting Star 4 with the plot as originally planned AND MOST IMPORTANTLY Legends 3. If not that, at least Remakes of Legends 1, 2 and Tron Bonne with modernized - non tank - controls and a graphics style which looks fresh but stays true to its roots.
@redstreak9430
@redstreak9430 5 ай бұрын
Same. I was never fond of the “Remember MM2” mindset (yes I know there’s irony considering my pfp) and I’m glad for the most part that’s died off unlike other series follow similar practices. 9 and 10 were okay but man, what I wouldn’t have given to see a “proper” version of those games that pushed the series to the new stage like 11 did.
@sevensvn5391
@sevensvn5391 5 ай бұрын
​@@redstreak9430 I don't really get what you mean by Mega Man 2 mindset. I'm going to address the difference in Mega Man's moveset, since that's what most people mean gameplay-wise from what I've seen. I personally feel that the charge shot, in a number of prior entries, was powerful enough to discourage weapon usage more than it already likely is for a number of players. With this being cranked to the max in Mega Man 5 in my experience. The slide, at least some would say, allowed for a lot of enemies to not be engaged with to the same degree due to being able to take a hit then slide past them, or things akin to that. It might have allowed for you to be a lot less committal and potentially more reckless, which might reduce the inclination for a player to strategize further. In Mega Man 10, I feel that the lack of charged buster and slide for Mega Man forces the player to be more thoughtful and strategic with how they navigate through the level since they can't just slide out or past as Mega Man, and his base firepower isn't enough to just proceed without getting hit in a number of instances. I think that that kind of forces the player to either A)Stubbornly try to do it with just the buster anyway, possibly with Shop purchases. or B)Stop and think about how they can use their weapons to overcome a given situation. Out of all of the main 11 classic games, I feel like 10 pushed me to do B the most, and through that I discovered a lot of neat uses for the weapons. For instance, Thunder Wool's lightning destroys met bullets, meaning that I can just set one, then lure a met into the lightning and not take any bullet damage myself, whereas if I used the buster I'd risk the met getting some shots in. In another instance, I figured out that to anything else the Suzies(Red eye enemies that move from wall to wall) are very damage spongy, and that if I tried to take them out manually I'd be at a higher risk of damage. I then realized that Rebound Striker has the potential to do 5 damage at a maximum, which is five times as much as the buster if I recall correctly, and likely enough to one shot the enemy. So I figured out a trajectory, and one-shotted the enemy as well as the ones near it afterward. With that being said, I won't dogmatically say that simplifying Mega Man's moveset is an objectively good thing, since good or bad when it comes games is considered by a number to be fairly subjective. However, what I WILL say is that there might be more thought behind simplifying Mega Man's base abilities from a design perspective than just "Remember MM2" in the case of MM10, and that the simplification could just be achieving a difference in gameplay that appeals to devs and certain players who enjoy or prefer it for reasons I alluded to above. Edit: Wording, Grammar, etc.
@redstreak9430
@redstreak9430 5 ай бұрын
@@sevensvn5391 well, it’s not just simplifying the moveset but also the way the game was presented. Everything just seemed to be motivated by pandering to people who only knew that specific game with how it was executed especially considering it’s the sequel to 8 (and Bass to an extent). Like I know people meme on the anime cutscenes of that game because of the bad localization process but I still would have liked to see how it properly built on what the previous games. It’s especially jarring if, for example, you’re playing through the Legacy Collections and you see how the series is evolving from what they can do with the graphics to the story presentation to Megaman slowing building up his moveset and then you get to 9 and all of that is gone (at least they borrowed from the latter NES games with the story aspect I’ll give them that). Even X5 and X6 still felt like they built on what X4 did despite dropping the cutscenes as an example. At least with 10 I did feel like they introduced elements that made it stand out with stuff like the ability to play as Protoman and Bass (yes I know PM was in 9 but he was more of a bonus mode vs an actual playable character). Then again, that game was supposedly using rejected ideas from ZXC so that might be why that game felt more diverse with what you could do. And yeah I do think either they should have built better levels around all of Megaman’s abilities for those who don’t want to use the slide and charge and do a weapons only run or at least make that an option/unlockable like, say, Sonic Mania did with the Instashield and Super Peel Out. The point is I remember when 11 was first announced, my initial reaction was praising the fact we’re finally moving beyond the 8 bit artstyle and evolving from what 8/Bass gave us. And I think overall that game did a good job of keeping the movesets diverse in addition to the time gear gimmick.
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 5 ай бұрын
@@redstreak9430 Capcom usually see Mega man as a way to make a quick buck because of low budget most of them are, Which is why X drive was made. While the bigger budgets go to more popular games or new IPs.
@scottholtom7551
@scottholtom7551 5 ай бұрын
I really hope Rockman Taisen and/or other game gets announced very soon
@costby1105
@costby1105 5 ай бұрын
The collection aren't low effort. If they were they would have been farmed out to Digital Eclipse, M2 or some other studio specializing in Emulation. Inticreates have stated that they want to work on Mega Man again. However, They have stated that they wanted to remake Zelda 2, but have stated that it wasn't necessarily economically viable. Also Capcom has pulled most of their development in house after the Street Fighter V launch debacle and other outsourced and published game selling well below expectations. Granted some of the expectations were kind of absurd.
@bezoticallyyours83
@bezoticallyyours83 5 ай бұрын
That was Inti expressing interest in Zelda 2. 😉
@GottaBeFrank
@GottaBeFrank 5 ай бұрын
While I'm a little tired of Mega Man 1-3, remaking the games again is a pretty safe choice. It could iron out some of the issues of the original games and could include new content, similar to the challenge missions of the Legacy Collection. Maybe a definitive version of 1-3, with hot swapping, like the Complete Works.
@GlitchedVision
@GlitchedVision 5 ай бұрын
it was rumored they were working on powered up 2... they could take your idea, hdify the first powered up, dust off the unreleased powered up 2 and finish it, alongside making a third part :)
@richardquinata76
@richardquinata76 5 ай бұрын
There was also supposed to be another Maverick Hunter X game, too. I wouldn't mind more of that series and have even came up with Colonel Mode if it ever got to MHX4.
@GrayvyFellow
@GrayvyFellow 5 ай бұрын
I did leave a comment on Revo's video where I was airing out my woes and frustrations. I do feel pretty guilty of neglecting the fact that the dry spells and time between releases did highlight a lot of other things around the franchise and other games influenced by it. It did give me some time to give some of the past Mega Man ga+mes a good go and really come to get to grips their specific nuiances for those I'm familiar with and finding gold with those I've not touched much at all. On top of the stuff like looking forward to what comes out of Gunvolt or Gravity Circuit among looking back at Rokko-Chan, Touhou parody fan games as well as Rosenkurezstilette (I still struggle with that name) has given me new found appreciation of those games among seeing various fan works and what not blossom. Hell I'll even say seeing that humble bundle threw me off guard like damn that's (mostly) a steel! ...Though again I still can't neglect the grievences. Capcom dropping the ball with a lot of their other franchises big and small doesn't help along with the backlash fans have given with relative unity when it comes to the Enigma DRM thing. I do agree that it's an over reaction but more so on both the fans part as well as Capcoms own part. Just slap the player whoever had the funny nude Chun-Li mod on the wrist and leave it be. I guess though it's hard to not be more frustrated by Capcom over so much more than just Mega Man though, I feel that frustration when it comes to so many other things with Capcom. The lack of follow ups or interest in stuff like Breath of Fire, Onimusha, Rival Schools, Darkstalkers, etc., the heavy focus on the big three and wanting to have consistencies with selling over 10 million with each of those. Heck it shocks me that Devil May Cry 5 has done super well and has become hella iconic in its own right and yet we're still wondering where the hell Devil May Cry is going to go from here. It's almost as if now with Capcom there just isn't enough cooks in the kitchen to keep maintaining everything all at once with the big culprit being to try and keep up as a AAA game studio. And it's pretty ludicrous to think even hiring more people would work since there's probably so many jobs they can push out until their company funds can't be reached at anymore. Mega Man is definitely not the only culprit to this, but for sure it's the front runner in terms of wondering what the heck is even the plan at Capcom. EDIT: I did leave it pretty late to edit this but I've since removed the comment from that video. Not just out of trying to be more sensible in approach but also just... YEAH.
@gunvolt5246
@gunvolt5246 5 ай бұрын
Capcom doesn't hate Mega Man and the franchise isnt dead but he definitely isn't Capcoms top priority (if it wasnt already obvious) The only thing I want atm is a Starforce collection. I'll only get my hopes up for a new game if/whenever Capcom announces one.
@KR-976
@KR-976 2 ай бұрын
I really appreciate all the links you have in the description. That along with the great video has given me a lot to read and consider!
@AdachiCabbage
@AdachiCabbage 5 ай бұрын
Megaman at least gets games. Still no Breath of Fire 1-5 or DQ on modern consoles.
@xCrackxRabbitx
@xCrackxRabbitx 5 ай бұрын
A criminally neglected series.
@TheDapperDragon
@TheDapperDragon 5 ай бұрын
You can keep DQ in the garbage where it belongs. But BoF3 and 4 not being playable on anything short of an emulator is actually wrong.
@xCrackxRabbitx
@xCrackxRabbitx 5 ай бұрын
@@TheDapperDragon Yeah, as far as I remember there's only 1-4. xD Wasn't a DQ fan myself either.
@TheDapperDragon
@TheDapperDragon 5 ай бұрын
​@@xCrackxRabbitx There TECHNICALLY was a 5, but it was a mobile only gacha nightmare. Still more BoF than DQ. It was still fantasy, had Woren and Nina the Wyndian, etc.
@xCrackxRabbitx
@xCrackxRabbitx 5 ай бұрын
@@TheDapperDragon Oh yeah! I forgot all about that! I wanna say its implied DQ is "5" though. I'm fairly certain the one you're referring to is BoF6.
@AlcorSalvador
@AlcorSalvador 5 ай бұрын
It's worth mentioning that Inticreates had a Mega Man Classic Mini Engine in ZXA, so it's highly likely they were aiming for that and once the pitch got approved they essentially shelved ZXC until their relationship with Capcom was severed.
@captainblackhook9888
@captainblackhook9888 5 ай бұрын
Capcom: Thanks for the Mega Man money, we shall make more Street Fighter with it :3
@bezoticallyyours83
@bezoticallyyours83 5 ай бұрын
Lol
@KyuJuEX099
@KyuJuEX099 5 ай бұрын
28:57 Holy hell. That's gotta be the worst presentation for Battle Network 6. What the heck is that clown show?
@davidgusquiloor2665
@davidgusquiloor2665 5 ай бұрын
That was the early 2000's. Lots of people hated "kiddie" games with multiple sequels but would Buy "serious" games with multiple sequels. And there was a slowly growing anti japanese sentiment among the media. Still far from the worst Mega Man review i have seen, there was an English magazine that said Legends was bad because it was colorful without a single mention of gameplay.
@kaiserknuckle9261
@kaiserknuckle9261 5 ай бұрын
I look at it from the same lense as I do my favorite Nintendo franchise metroid it took 19years for dread to be released and it took seven years after other m bombed and if the lessons I learned from waiting for new games in that series it's that eventually your patience will be rewarded I don't think mega man will go anywhere anytime soon so the best thing we can do is be patient and support the collections
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
I mean at least Nintendo already stated that they will announce the game once it is complete meanwhile Capcom goes radio silent when it comes to Megaman...
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 5 ай бұрын
@@NetBattler I think Capcom may have runout of ideas for Mega Man, because coming up with new powers that are fun to use is not easy. Mega Man had alot of power ups that most people didn't like.
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
@@orangeslash1667 I mean that's why they are considering to making Megaman games. They have been stating this last year.
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 5 ай бұрын
@@NetBattler There's an upcoming game called Berserk boy, that looks Mega man inspired.
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
@@orangeslash1667 damn even indie game like Megaman more than multi billion company 💀
@thedredayshow9246
@thedredayshow9246 5 ай бұрын
Hate is a srong word. I'm more on the realm of "They don't care for it as much as fans do." If I remember, excluding tue recent 11, MM games weren't rrally known for selling well. So they keep MM around for public appearances, but not games.
@SuxMenner
@SuxMenner 5 ай бұрын
Most of my Capcom Survey letter was directed towards letting Capcom know to be more transparent and how while I might not be in the same mindset as REVO's thoughts I agreed enough about how we are indeed halfway through the same amount of years Mega Man was put in the back burner if not counting collections, so I thought of including that as well in there. But my most important and personal tid-bit was conveying to Capcom that they could always rely on outsourcing Mega Man titles to other publishers, and specifically mentioned Inti Creates. I hope that it's been enough years between the bad blood of MM10 that their current directors are willing to work with Inti again. Edit: I heavily agree that 2024 is the year we will see Taisen as everything has pointed towards it.
@virtualpellot933
@virtualpellot933 5 ай бұрын
I wonder what's the problem between Capcom and Inti Creates? Apparently from what I've heard Inti Creates is still open to do stuff with Capcom, if Capcom wanted to and that Inti holds no grudge at them.
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 5 ай бұрын
@@virtualpellot933 Even if Capcom were to use Inti Creates, it would have to use sprites. If it was 2.5 d Inti would not be a good fit.
@dontemorgan1517
@dontemorgan1517 5 ай бұрын
The lack of Mega Man content from Capcom is truly questionable. I just have a feeling that Capcom just doesn't actually care about Mega Man anymore as they'll sell collections or remake of it for a quick cash or just extremely lazy. I mean Capcom focus a lot of Street Fighter, Resident Evil, and even freaking Monster Hunters than their own mascot. You either retired the franchises or sell it to another Japanese game company (just not Nintendo or Sega because Mega Man will be a clone to Mario and Sega).
@carlosaugusto9821
@carlosaugusto9821 5 ай бұрын
It's 2024, and after everything that has happened to this franchise so far you just got a "feeling" that Capcom doesn't care anymore...
@carlosaugusto9821
@carlosaugusto9821 5 ай бұрын
Important to note that Capcom once forgot SF. The franchise went through a similar situation after SF3 Third Strike from 99, then new games stopped except retro rereleases... Until SF4 from 08 turns out in a massive success, which restored trust in the franchise and in investment on this ancient genre of 2d fighting games. That's to show that even SF, one of the most important franchises in gaming history, a pioneer that reached tremendous commercial and cultural success since the early 90s, even this powerful franchise started looking inviable in Capcom's eyes in the late 90s and it was "semi" abandoned for nine years. All because of RE in the late 90s and then DMC in the early 00s. The thing is that MM11 didn't make the strong impression of SF4 that fully convinced Capcom to give it more attention. So the franchise is still being more or less treated like SF during its nine years hiatus in the 00s.
@virtualpellot933
@virtualpellot933 5 ай бұрын
I would prefer that Capcom sold Megaman (and perhaps even Strider and Bionic Commando) to Inti Creates as they would know what to do with 'em.
@virtualpellot933
@virtualpellot933 5 ай бұрын
​@@carlosaugusto9821but didn't Capcom claimed that they were satisfied and happy with the sells of MM11? Didn't they said it sold good? Or did Capcom lied as usual?
@drizzziit1
@drizzziit1 5 ай бұрын
@@virtualpellot933 Good does not equal great. Remember this is capitalism and corporate greed we are talking about.
@supermetroid009
@supermetroid009 5 ай бұрын
@29:24 ugh!!! I hated those days, when everyone especially G4 would crap on not just megaman but any old school franchise from Japan, and if it wasn’t Halo,Call of duty, gears of war or god of war they wouldn’t give a Eff about it.
@SOJITZL
@SOJITZL 5 ай бұрын
Star Force 2 still sucks, I *just* played through it. The worst part out of everything is doing all the side quests, which shouldn't be a problem but constantly pulsing in then out then running back to the same room literally more than 10 times is ridiculous with very little hint on where to go and what to do.
@dass8193
@dass8193 5 ай бұрын
Did you try the not so DX patch? It decreases the abysmal encounter rate a bit and makes some high link power doors easier to access
@davidgusquiloor2665
@davidgusquiloor2665 5 ай бұрын
It's considered one of the worst for a reason, in gameplay, design and story it really it's suffering.
@SOJITZL
@SOJITZL 5 ай бұрын
@@dass8193 I did use the nsDX patch, but a QoL patch doesn't fix the story, or the skywave, or the dungeon puzzles, or Zack. Or the endlessly tedious world travel system
@SSG079
@SSG079 5 ай бұрын
I'm willing to cut Capcom some slack with the ransomware leaks and covid. But at the same time, I am firmly of the mindset "I'll believe it when I see it", because Capcom hasn't really done much to really inspire faith that they'll release a new Mega Man game (let alone other dead/dormant IPs). Collections do not exactly guarantee a new game either. Darkstalkers Resurrection sold quite a lot (enough to be in the top 10 lists for US PS store in March of that year), yet it didn't meet Capcom's expectations to even bother with a new game. So I'm not exactly gonna hold my breath, pessimistic as that sounds.
@MagillanicaLouM
@MagillanicaLouM 5 ай бұрын
At the very least, I don't think they make new entries live or die by how well collections sell anymore lol. They flat out said the they had no plans to make a new darkstalkers no matter how well the very darkstalkers heavy fighting game collection from 2022 sold. So at least developer interest is more of a priority than JUST chasing a bag
@VentCrystals98
@VentCrystals98 5 ай бұрын
It've been a while, welcome back!
@KinG_VI-13
@KinG_VI-13 5 ай бұрын
I just really want to see Megam Man legends 3. It doesn't have to be made at the level of God of War. If it had the same art style, but just at a higher quality that would very much make me happy.
@ZeroSnake
@ZeroSnake 5 ай бұрын
Zero Collection is amazing 👏🏿
@gabrielcastejon7914
@gabrielcastejon7914 5 ай бұрын
Even if they did a new Megaman game it would be with 2.5D graphics, which doesn't hit the same. Megaman Legends 3 would be their best bet.
@Mantosasto
@Mantosasto 4 ай бұрын
Damn Capcom, we don't need or want multiple games per year, just one every other year is fine. Give us X9 and Legends 3 already 😢
@gunvolt5246
@gunvolt5246 4 ай бұрын
X9 and Legends 3 will come out around the same time Valve announces Half-Life 3.
@MegamanGuy444
@MegamanGuy444 5 ай бұрын
Personally I think its all those problems... AND THEY DON'T ADVERTISE THE BLUE BOMBER. I don't know if they expect hype to just appear out of nowhere, but they need to make games... TO MAKE HYPE. Nintendo, as old as they are, EVEN THEY KNOW THAT. Why was TOTK so successful? They hyped the damn game for years. Advertisement is the key here. And they don't do it with their smaller properties. I get they don't wanna burn out people. Absolutely. So, just don't make Mega Man games every year?
@MajeedBelle
@MajeedBelle 5 ай бұрын
I actually think Capcom is in the same boat with mega Man as Sega is with Sonic. Both companies don't know what to do to modernize these franchises. When I say modernize. I don't mean to dumb down the difficulty or make the franchises some kind of joke. I just mean to potentially transform the games to be more digestible for the current gamer base while still preserving the core and essence of the franchises. When I look at something like God of war and how they changed that but kept the core of the game, this is what I'm talking about. As far as mega Man is concerned, I would really love to see them go back to another attempt with the 3D mega Man like mega Man Legends. I think they could pull it off. It's just a confidence thing.
@64bitmodels66
@64bitmodels66 5 ай бұрын
Mega Man is in a far worse state than sonic. Sonic got 3 games, recieved a TV show and 2 movies in the first half of the 2020s alone, plus concerts for the series music. Megaman outside of x dive has been pure and utter neglect.
@robinsr4745
@robinsr4745 29 күн бұрын
​@@64bitmodels66 Sonic is still an iconic character in modern times while megaman is now seen as more of a retro icon.
@megamix5403
@megamix5403 5 ай бұрын
25:36 Omg, I love that Porky Pig reference XD
@moxty2795
@moxty2795 5 ай бұрын
This Is Like Ubisoft Hates Rayman Both the Franchises made them go to the top in the first place and Now they ignoring them What ungrateful people
@chillihog1543
@chillihog1543 5 ай бұрын
Its sad Capcom don't see their mascot as their big moneymaker anymore but I get it. Time has change and since shooters, open world, rpg, n even fighters are going big this generation, Capcom has to follow where the money goes. Its just feels like Mega Man is the Mickey Mouse for Capcom, where Disney mostly focus on doing animated movies, Marvel, n bland live action remakes. Meanwhile their mascot, just give him a disney plus show or just shove him into a small game for a quick buck. Plus it ain't just Capcom that sees Mega man as a niche franchise. It feels like platformers (Except Mario n Sonic) in general are nichie or kinda dead. Microsoft/Activision aren't doing so hot with Toys For Bob getting layoff so the wait for a new Crash n Spyro game will feel like an eternity. Plus doubt Banjo n other platformers will get a comeback too. Sony now just focuses on the single player movies n GAAS so rip Sly n Jak. Ratchet is still alive but i heard that franchise won't be making a comeback for a couple of years since Insomniac is a Marvel studio at this point. Ubisoft ain't doing shit with Rayman and other companies are just focus on what's big in the gaming space. And tbf I seen more causals complain stuff like how Crash 4 ain't worth $60 and view 2d n 3d platformers in general as retro/nichie so it shows why companies aren't pumping out platformers like that. Plus with gaming development cost alot of money, companies ain't going to do risk like they were able to back in the 90s/2000s. 2017-18 was a magical time for platformer fans since that year, u got new platformer the like Cuphead game, got comback platformers like Crash n Spyro trilogy remakes, and got new sequel platformers like Mega Man 11, Sonic Mania, and Mario Odyssey. However, now the only carriers we have for platformers is Mario, Kirby, Sonic, and fangames at this point. Tbf Sonic was almost invaluable for Sega since the franchise has been in a slump in the mid 2010s, but thxs to the Sonic Movies being a big success, Sega change their tune and decide to go big their mascot n even plan to revive their older ips. Maybe if Capcom give Mega Man a movie or tv show n they succeed like the Sonic Movies, then maybe it could spark Capcom into hiring a new team to make a new Mega Man if they see consumer interest for the franchise.
@capstalker5539
@capstalker5539 5 ай бұрын
I guess the rsing of indie games was the straw that broke the camel's back, competition for low-budget games now be fiercer. For the platformers, a large company can't do more than individual developer, and they can't compete with indie games in terms of quantity.
@rodanyo
@rodanyo 5 ай бұрын
I want to be positive and thing that there's someting on the oven for a new game. And i'm not mentioning other legacy collection. Besides there's only 2 series that still don't have theirs: Starforce and Legends, and those series are curious because they only have at least 3 games (not counting the different versions od Starforce). ZX was a unique case by putting them with MM Zero, mostly because ZX comes right after MM Zero, and share a lot of elements to be consider part of it. I think Legends deserves a remake instead of a legacy collection, just the 1st game to start, or the main 2 at the same time,, but that's another story. I think the possibilities for a new megaman title are very high to be MM 12. And even that they mention that they're interested in adding more contetc to X Dive offline, i don't think they will do anything anymore to the game. For X9 that's a very... VERY fragile thing, because the comunity don't want just MMX9, they want their MMX9, something that mandatory explain what happened to Axl (obviously) and that conects or MM Zero with something of the Elf Wars. And in my opinion, that's not gonna happen. If X9 manages to show up, is gonna continue from what was left on X8, explaining what happened to Axl, creating a new story from there, and that's it. The elf wars are already explained in the Zero games, and in the Rockman Zero complete works. So a game that focus on the Elf Wars is not necessary, and if they make it, is not gonna be X9. Will be part of the Zero series, and will the equivalent of "Crisis Core" to FF7, or "Torna the golden country" to Xenoblade 2: a tragic story already told in the games, but with the details of what happened.
@capstalker5539
@capstalker5539 5 ай бұрын
I agree with what you said about X9, let the timeline of the Zero series separate starting with X6, this is better for both series.
@rodanyo
@rodanyo 5 ай бұрын
@@capstalker5539 The Zero ending in X6 is not part of X6... kinda. That was already confirmed that this particular event happens right at the end of the X series, regardless of the games that are coming after, so X7 and X8 are still cannon. It makes sense to me for how X8 ends
@Nplasma17
@Nplasma17 5 ай бұрын
I really hope we get at least Megaman X9, ZX 3 or Legends 3 before the 2020s end... UNLESS we get a game of the Elf Wars which would be simply mind blowing and I'd be 200% up for it
@chimuoma390
@chimuoma390 5 ай бұрын
Elf Wars Would Be Sick!X9-X10-X11-X12 Would Span The 4-Year War!1 Year Per Game!I'd Buy A Switch For These Games!Hacked Xtreme 2,And And Easy Mode Model O MMZX Would Still Be Better!I Want ZX3,To Kill Master Thomas And Learn About The History Of Carbons,And To Use Omega Again!Model O Could Play The Central Role!Prometheus And Pandora Could Be The Protagonists,To Become Omega Zero!I Also Wanted Xtreme 3 On GBA,To Play X Vs Zero!And Most Of All STAR FORCE 4!
@brandonwilliams6119
@brandonwilliams6119 5 ай бұрын
I just want a game that bridges the gap between Classic to X, X to Zero and so on.
@KeltkeGH
@KeltkeGH 4 ай бұрын
Elf Wars? Nah. Chances are high they'd mess and ruin it. Better to just continue the Lumine/Axl cliffhanger.
@majamystic256
@majamystic256 4 ай бұрын
i don't think I would want an Elf Wars game right away though, I think would like a few more other X games before the Elf Wars since X series has been gone for 20 years and I don't want to come back and just end in one game
@NineToFiveGamerUC0079
@NineToFiveGamerUC0079 5 ай бұрын
What game at 1:34?
@Solavation
@Solavation 5 ай бұрын
Not to save you an hour but, the hardest thing for MEGAMAN fans to accept is that MEGAMAN has NEVER been a huge selling franchise so much so that they were surprised battle network collection did so well. Nobody knows what to do with IP tbh, in all honesty I think capcom needs to get the one step from Eden guys and do a battle network game and then get platinum to do an X Game but I digress I don’t think any mega man series has ever had 5 mil copies sold
@mattminerman
@mattminerman 5 ай бұрын
What's the name of the song in "Is Mega Man dead again?" timestamp
@NevetsTSmith
@NevetsTSmith 5 ай бұрын
It's really struck me as odd how Capcom has just abandoned Megaman as a primary IP. Capcom is pretty renowned for their action games, so there's no reason why they wouldn't make a MM approaching the level of DMC.
@FusionArmorX
@FusionArmorX 5 ай бұрын
On that point, it feels like a tie between following what Inafune wanted for the series, and following what the fans expect. Even if we hear more about Taisen soon, I'm genuinely not sure if it'll be welcomed.
@bezoticallyyours83
@bezoticallyyours83 5 ай бұрын
That could be interesting
@ColeFam
@ColeFam 5 ай бұрын
I feel like something big is on the horizon. There is just a bit of housekeeping that needs to be done first. I hope, anyway. This was very well presented.
@e2011ugdia
@e2011ugdia 5 ай бұрын
I went to capcomtown, got registered and im Not able to Vote with a Message saying „you are Not elligible to Cast a vote“ with a Battle network Met in the middle of the screen
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
Huh that's strange. Could it have to do with your age?
@e2011ugdia
@e2011ugdia 5 ай бұрын
@@NetBattler Ding Ding Ding, correct! Im 12
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
@@e2011ugdia eh? But you're already 12 which means you already verified to vote...I mean for this election specifically.
@e2011ugdia
@e2011ugdia 5 ай бұрын
@@NetBattler yes but i cant for some reason, maybe ITS because of the Email i used but im Not so sure
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
@@e2011ugdia have you tried to idk change your date when you were born? Most of the time it works
@MaxBraver555
@MaxBraver555 5 ай бұрын
Right now Capcom wants to focus on sure hit titles, Monster Hunter, Resident Evil, Dragon’s Dogma, and new title like Pragmata.
@ashharkausar413
@ashharkausar413 5 ай бұрын
They will definitely churn out sequels but they are not prioritized. Maybe they will release a fresh series in the future; I have hope.
@bezoticallyyours83
@bezoticallyyours83 5 ай бұрын
I'd love a fresh sub-series!
@marcossierra3498
@marcossierra3498 5 ай бұрын
The IT area for employemeny has enter an recess. I would believe it is also affecting Capcom as well, Covid has changed alot of companies and that is why we see a lot of studios shutting down or doing lay offs.
@virtuatom93
@virtuatom93 5 ай бұрын
i think lack of direction and innovation at capcom is the problem....they constantly stick to what works for them without taking any new risks at giving other ips a shot to shine again,it's not just megaman.....series like darkstalkers,final fight,okami,viewtiful joe, dino crisis, vs series aren't as respected as they could be.....
@zatsuthedarskarstanian4051
@zatsuthedarskarstanian4051 5 ай бұрын
You caught me by surprise in the end of the "whats taking em so long" section, pitchforks will be bought
@ZenoDLC
@ZenoDLC 5 ай бұрын
The creator of that video you mentioned near the beginning of this video was once like how you are in this video, I sincerely hope you don't become like him due to circumstances in the future
@kyokari4
@kyokari4 5 ай бұрын
13:25 I despise DRM like everyone else, but this is the funniest justification for protection being ramped up if those events are correlated.
@jeast9648
@jeast9648 5 ай бұрын
I was waiting on that battle network legacy collection for a long time.
@billyboleson2830
@billyboleson2830 Ай бұрын
MegaMan has always had the same issue as Metroid. The characters MegaMan and Samus are super popular, arguably borderline main stream, but the actual games themselves are rather niche and have never really sold that well.
@FusionArmorX
@FusionArmorX 5 ай бұрын
Does Capcom hate Mega Man? I don't think so. When that conclusion's components are analyzed, the idea that Capcom hates the brand is nothing but conjecture. The sentiment requires one to do a _lot_ of excluding. Artbooks, cameos, themed DLC, collections, soundtrack releases, merchandise, and even entire games can find themselves excluded. For example, Mega Man X Dive might not have been the best Mega Man product ever made, but it _was_ a new idea for the series to try. The sins it is guilty of in being a gacha game might be unique for Mega Man, but they are common for the free-to-play model. I can honestly say that I've played games with a worse gacha system than X Dive. Even then, the pay-to-win aspect of X Dive was more to do with PvP than it was with PvE. As far as PvE was concerned, as soon as you had one good S Rank character, the game dramatically transformed more into one that functioned via gear score than gacha. It stands to reason that without the PvP and pay-to-win aspects, X Dive would effectively be only a gear score game. The idea, also, of what would convince people that Capcom _doesn't_ hate the brand is also strangely specific: Numbered sequels. REVO's video mentions one thing in its "ideas for Mega Man games" segment, he suggests that a numbered sequel to Rockboard of all things would be welcomed openly. This is in the same video where he dismisses games like Rockman Tennis, but I digress... He recites it in addition to "easy" things that "everybody" would totally go for. A game that bridges Classic and X together as stories, or one that answers what happened to Axl in X8 and also brings X into the Elf Wars part of the Zero series, or that one MMZ remake idea with Devil May Cry's combat mechanics. Lots of cool ideas, but inescapable from the sentiment they're attached to. As well, considering that people seemed to be hyped about the idea of an MMZ remake, many were surprisingly sour on the idea of the first three Mega Man games themselves potentially getting remade. Not helping is the fanaticism regarding Capcom's other popular brands. What does the success of Street Fighter, Resident Evil and Monster Hunter have to do with the state of the Mega Man brand? Absolutely nothing, and the constant bickering about how Capcom would _'rather serve them'_ feels less like a good faith criticism and more like bad faith jealousy. Worse yet, some even drag in other dormant Capcom brands as proof, and I'm left wondering if the goal of this outrage is really all that much about getting Mega Man a new game, or if Mega Man's "corpse" is being used as a rallying cry for a "CrapcomGate" or something. The more people I see swept up in the idea that Capcom hates Mega Man, the more I fear we'll actually see Mega Man die as a brand. Because the more these people are right about what fans do and don't want, the more the brand _will_ die, and it'd die by the hand of the people who claim to care about it more than the company that makes it.
@CMDRThunderush
@CMDRThunderush 5 ай бұрын
It's funny how a lot of the unrealized potential and cancelled games for Mega Man titles have awakened a passionate drive for other creators to realize fan games that manage to keep the spirit of excitement we got from the original games active and lively.
@coreywong6229
@coreywong6229 5 ай бұрын
Ah yes they can finally beat air man buster only, no damage run, but with the zero collection checkpoint system. Lol. Joking aside, I just be happy with preservation for now.
@BugRaiser
@BugRaiser 5 ай бұрын
A Megaman movie 🎥 is needed but we need a good one
@robinsr4745
@robinsr4745 29 күн бұрын
Only way I see it working is a modern animated movie like spiderverse with maybe less of a comic book style
@Shinjiduo
@Shinjiduo 5 ай бұрын
It is true that video games grew greatly between mid 90's to 2010 However, the real reason individual game sales were lower was due to just simply less customers. Prior to the "Internet Social Gaming Era" people used to buy games they saw in magazines, saw box artwork or even simply the back of the product box. Back then people bought what they wanted regardless of what their friends were getting. Since the Internet era has begun everyone buys the same games to be in on the discussion whether it be online multiplayer or "spoilercast." An example of the Internet age effect: PS1 highest seller Gran Turismo 10.85 Million PS2 highest seller GTA San Andreas 17.33 Million post Internet era Nintendo Wii highest seller Mario Kart Wii 37.38 Million PS4 highest seller Horizon Zero Dawn 24 Million Nintendo Switch highest seller Mario Kart 8 Deluxe 60.58 Million. As the previous sentence shows that people now tend to cluster around big titles more than in the pre Internet past where you would not see 20 million + sales unless it was a pack in. Those pre Internet age video game sales were spread more widely over a range of franchises. In short no 20 million + sales but more 2 to 5 million sellers. The problem for franchises like Mega Man, Okami, Viewtiful Joe and Onimusha have is that people who purchase Resident Evil or Monster Hunter in droves don't have the time or money to get around to them. Thus Capcom has no real incentive to make them even if they are profitable as they chew up resources and time to produce. An unfortunate circumstance to be sure.
@Ai_M3talloidX7
@Ai_M3talloidX7 5 ай бұрын
SR's right. Regardless if Capcom will listen, it's best to take action through that questionnaire instead. It's a 1 in one million shot but just about every shot you take misses until it lands a devastating blow.
@davidgusquiloor2665
@davidgusquiloor2665 5 ай бұрын
Capcom cares about MonHun and RE because they are the massive cash cows. Of course they would get multiple sequels and high budget releases, for better and worse. A remake of MM 1, 2 and 3 isn't really needed but a new MM game would be cool. Honestly a MM sequel is more welcomed. Honestly Breath of Fire 1 could use a remake, 2 could be cool, not 3, that one is perfect. Phoenix Wright also needs new entries (and solve the damn Apollo story) instead of remakes.
@bezoticallyyours83
@bezoticallyyours83 5 ай бұрын
A co op mega man would be such fun! I'd love it!
@PassportBrosBusinessClass
@PassportBrosBusinessClass 5 ай бұрын
MEGAMAN is one of the greatest intellectual properties of the 1980's which ISN'T owned by Nintendo. I didn't realize it until playing through the entire Legacy/X/ZX collection, just how good it was. I was shocked how they evolved the story from the MM games to the Battle Network games on to the ZX games. The downside, however, is that they had to make these games more accessible and thus EASIER for the general public to play them. The work they did on Mega Man 11 is remarkable when you look back at Mega Man X6 and X7.
@joevaghn457
@joevaghn457 5 ай бұрын
I really wish for more MM games using mega man 8 graphics as a base. Man, those were some of the absolute best and most spectacular 2.5D sprites I’ve ever seen. So much potential
@codyraugh6599
@codyraugh6599 Ай бұрын
The problem for megaman is that we have four timeline periods, and two? For the alt timeline, that mostly need more content. Classic has obviously had it good but TBF the Elf Wars, the Legion Cataclysm, and the conclusion of the the fall of the Elysium Master system are all events fans have been waiting for, and for decades now. And honestly AAA gaming is dead/dying so i think now is the time where Megaman should be stepping up for Capcom and the lack of news is a little concerning since right now, lower budget, more "retro" or more "mid tier" games filled with heart, story or just flat bucketloads gameplay potential are what's selling rather than the big blockbuster titles, and to be frank sales have been showing that for almost 4 years now. So anyone whose been holding onto a IP like Megaman should be wanting to slowly draw in fan attention. The Xdive was one good way, but they should probably want to do a relatively "cheap" Megaman Legends 3 thats full of nods to the other eras to drag in and prime new fans, or just straight do another game in the X series (since idk about how Capcom would feel about ZX)
@erhanjpg1467
@erhanjpg1467 5 ай бұрын
Feels like it…
@silvianbruno7512
@silvianbruno7512 5 ай бұрын
God if MN9 came out like a year earlier without any of the online/extras and then just added them when they were ready Shovel Knight style imagine what could have been.
@TrustHax
@TrustHax 5 ай бұрын
Great video! Would love to have seen something on why Capcom seems incredibly reluctant to release physical copies of megaman over here in the UK and EU any more. Seriously, We got none of the legacy collections physical while basically everywhere else got them. I think the only MM game we got physically in recent years has been MM11. Could be a potential contributing factor as to why Megaman's sales numbers are lower than what they could be. Heck, we cant even get digital versions of the Legends games natively on the PS store, only legal way to play them is to track down the physical discs which are being sold for insane prices... We can't even get officially licensed merch to ship here from US based stores due to "licencing issues", come on man what licencing issues!? Freakin' sucks being a megaman fan here!
@TheRealZXXZ
@TheRealZXXZ 5 ай бұрын
ZX "C" is actually called "Cradle" according to the japanese fans that read the slip up.
@ScottE-2
@ScottE-2 5 ай бұрын
I would like it if Mega Man Legends got some proper re-releases as stand alone games much like Devil May Cry. Though... that depends on whether or not they still got the source code.
@thedarkest9
@thedarkest9 5 ай бұрын
Can you add tail physics?
@NTBXP1
@NTBXP1 5 ай бұрын
Does current year capcom have ANY love to stuff that isn't photorealistic?
@LordSpleach
@LordSpleach 5 ай бұрын
"I'm doing my part!" about the Super Elections Survey. Sucks the comment section had a 400 character limit, but I made sure to say that "Mega Man is the Mario of Capcom"
@HomeMobile-ej2di
@HomeMobile-ej2di 29 күн бұрын
Capcom: *I'll Putting Our NFT Into Our Mega Man Games*
@mootcrayon8671
@mootcrayon8671 5 ай бұрын
I really hope that Capcom Releases a new MegaMan Battle Network.
@sevensvn5391
@sevensvn5391 5 ай бұрын
I thought it was a profitability thing. Why make a new Mega Man game when you could just dedicate more resources to games that have historically sold much better? That kind of logic.
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