We're grateful to be able to share this encouragement with you! --NTW Online Team

Good to see you too, Autumn! Thanks for your reflection.

It’s a doing & a leaning. God does for those who lean on Him. Apart from Him we can do nothing.

Thank you for your thoughtful comment! N.T. Wright's translation of Romans 8:28, emphasizing God working "with" us, indeed offers a powerful perspective. We're encouraged to hear that it was enlightening for you. --NTW Online Team

Good to see you too, Sherry!

May your work both be and bring a blessing.

Indeed! The updated translation will appear in a second edition. The revision was based on research by one of Prof. Wright's doctoral students, Haley Goranson Jacob who is now Assistant Prof. of Theology at Whitworth University in Spokane, Washington. www.ivpress.com/conformed-to-the-image-of-his-son

Thanks! We're grateful you're here.

It's good to be back--both for reading Scripture and praying together!

Yes, and perhaps an angle of understanding that broadens our vision of purpose (to be a vessel of God’s blessing). So glad you enjoyed the benediction!

Indeed! It is wonderful to be working with and participating, both as individuals and together as part of his body.

Why is this not translated properly?

What a lovely reflection. It's great to share our imaginations, reading Scripture, prayer, and tea (or espresso!) together!

Thanks for your encouragement!

Indeed, perhaps one aspect of the shift emphasizes what God is doing now through his people (without taking away from the promise of what he will do).

We are so sorry to hear about your experience of loss and anguish. Sometimes there just are no words. Many in this community will connect with offering the cries of your heart. Simply to hear and know that we are not alone in suffering, disappointment, or grief can be a profound ministry of presence. May God be a comfort and bring solace to you, day by day.

Be encouraged, my mom had 3 miscarriages and buried a baby. I came after the 5th pregnancy. 16 years later my brother came. We are fine and are called to do the work of the lord

Thanks so much for sharing a bit of your family's story and witness to the pain and grief that is so very real in these circumstances, as is God's faithfulness.

How wonderful! Thank you for sharing with us.

What a journey you've had over the past 20 years dedicated to encouraging a proper understanding of Romans 8:28. Thank you for your efforts and for helping others in your NT Theology class. We're honored that Prof. Wright's content has been a part of your teaching, and we are happy to continue this journey together!

We are seeing reports of the situation in your country and pray for a just and peaceful way forward, day by day. In a small way, we hope this community can be a place that is safe for sharing your burdens or feelings of helplessness and to offer a ministry of presence in these difficult times.

More new content coming next Monday!

We're thankful you're here! You'll find new content weekly on Monday.

We're happy to see you back as well!

Yes, and perhaps along with 'co-creators' we are often 'co-sufferers' through whom God works in his world.

@@NTWrightOnline yes. Indeed.

Glad it was helpful!

Thanks for being here. Greetings from the US!

Thanks! Glad to hear the teaching was helpful.

Good to see you again, Michael. Thanks for your kind words of encouragement and for your reflections this morning. The reference to Ephesians is a good reminder that we are not just passive creations, but his 'poiema'-- poetry in and for God and his world.

Sorry to hear that it's been difficult for the past couple of years. It takes courage to start a new business and to continue with training as you have. The new edition of the Kingdom New Testament will reflect this translation.

Indeed, Romans 8:28 is full of promise and hope! And, yes, we're aware of the series.

@N.T. Wright Online Dearest Teacher, Have you been able to view, The Chosen?, if so, what are your thoughts?

Thanks for sharing! We're hoping to be in Houston, TX, at the beginning of June. If you haven't already, subscribe to our mailing list at www.ntwrightonline.org to receive info and updates on this event (as the date gets closer), online courses, and other resources.

Further research and work with the biblical text was done after the publication of the first edition of the KNT. New edition will include a few other updates, as well as 'with' in the translation of this verse. Thanks for the question!

We find the beauty of biblical scholarship in the way godly men and women begin with the original languages, ascertain the possible meanings of the text(s), and collaborate to do the best they can to connote the meaning of the text. In the case of Rom 8:28, the new edition of the Kingdom New Testament will reflect the meaning we find in this Reading Scripture Together devotional. One of Prof. Wright's PhD students brought evidence of an alternate reading of the text to Prof. Wright and he agreed with her assessment of the evidence and incorporated her suggestions into his translation.

@@NTWrightOnline that’s awesome. Was that the only change in the new addition?

We know of at least one more!

@@NTWrightOnline ohhh tell me! Or is it a secret lol

Stay tuned! We're checking on a release date for the new edition.

NT Wright is is a great teacher of how God works through his people in the world in many different ways. This is a major part of his teaching ministry and he has spoken extensively on it all over the world. But in this instance, he is not expounding the entire topic of how God works through humans, but rather he's dealing with one verse which has its context set in the preceding verses, which are about prayer. He is bringing deeper understanding to a well known verse that has more to offer us than is typically seen. It sits within God's broader purposes of working through human beings, but this verse is more limited in scope. He is simply expounding what the text says in Romans 8:28, not taking on the entire topic. If you want the bigger picture, there are many, many videos on KZfaq with N.T. Wright discussing the broader topic at length.

@@johnwhite4991 Getting to Romans 8:28 Romans 8 Life through the spirit and not the flesh vs 1-15 15 is the prelude into spiritual adoption. 16 and 17 tie this to suffering for our king. 18 to 25 talks about the suffering that goes along with living according to the spirit and in service to the King. Verses 26 and 27 are describing the way the Spirit helps us to pray as a continuation of that longer prose that was laid out. In fact, I would point to Chapter 5, verse 12 as the beginning of the topic of living and acting in the spirit. That’s about 3 chapters of living your life in the spirit, and then 2 of those verses are about prayer just before 8:28 and God “working together with us” and that is what Write was teaching on: the co-working of God and men. That part is in line with the context of suffering with Christ and being heirs with Christ. But isolating prayer for the application is clearly not rightly dividing the word of truth. Let me encourage you to be watchful not to partake in demagoguery as it is idolatry by nature and will take you away from union with God. Your faulty argument from authority is an indication of such demagoguery. That is, the context of Romans 8:28 does not change based on any skill or experience of someone that is making commentary on it. When you want to know the context of the scripture, you just read it and when you want to point out the context of scripture, you point to the scripture and not to an expert. One my favorite bits of humorous commentary is breaking down the word expert: “X is an unknown factor, and a spurt is a drip under pressure”, the other about a common-tater is just your average spud.

@@mlauntube I will not respond to your personal comments about me, nor will I retaliate and make personal comments about you. Dr Wright has offered a brief five minute devotional video with insights on one verse. He is not attempting to teach a theology of God's use of humanity, nor is he expounding the book of Romans. He has shared insights from one verse to encourage God's people. Devotionals are not the place to say everything or engage in theological debates. I appreciate his insights and find this to be a great encouragement to my prayer life. Is there more that could be said? Of course! But as a devotional, it serves its purpose well. I have nothing further to say on this. Grace and peace to you.

@@johnwhite4991 Why did you say anything in the first place? Not to have a dialog about truth. Why did you object to me giving a criticism? You are in deep there John. You don't have in mind the things of God, but you couldn't bear to see anyone give a criticism of the person who you have made into an idol.