I think Riri is a good example how "mid" is usually worse than "bad".

What really got me rolling my eyes was the issue when Riri said Pepper was responsible for EVERY good thing Tony ever did!

I'm not a writer, and I understand the comics industry is really complicated but wouldn't it have been more interesting for Riri to stick with the "bad armor" for a while and have her make gradual but meaningful improvements to it over time and having her be clever in how she overcomes challenges instead of just having Tony come in and help after one semi-successful mission? It kind of inadvertently sends the message to young black readers that "if at first you don't succeed, hope a white, billionaire will help you"?

After Bendis stopped writing her (dear lord does he suck nowadays) I actually found that she became more interesting than most of the other younger newer heroes. Because of the various trauma in her past (which they may have overdid a little in my opinion, having her lose multiple family members and friends) she actually became kind of anti social and withdrawn, which made her stand out from the rest of the Champions by giving her unique character flaws.

“Bendis completely dropped the ball he set up for himself.” This is the best way to describe most of Bendis’s writing and characters. I’ll never forget when he made a statement defending his choice to kill Rhodes and Ta-Nehisi Coates wrote an essay arguing that defense and handed it to Bendis.

Honestly this vid just proves my point that sadly my buddy doesn't get: it truly is the plot and the world drawn around the characters more then the characters themselves that are the writing issue sometime. Characters always are going to show their best or worse traits depending on the plot written for them and when we realize it isn't just character but plotting we should be asking for, then hopefully more opportunities to make proper diversity will be possible. And if it leads to less boring missteps like Riri went through in her early run, will be better focus for criticism in the long run.

It's really clear that you really WANT to love comics! I appreciate you keep taking risks in contributing to the discourse, even when you're not feeling something - your tone and encouragement for us to go read comics and form our own opinions is something that keeps me coming back to your videos. Thanks for the thoughts and see you in the next one!

I think my main qualm with Riri (aside from her haphazardly taking over the book of my favorite superhero when there were still loose threads in Tony's ongoing story) is that we see (well, actually hear about) how smart and capable she is, while also seeing her character flaws, but she never has a true "save the cat" moment. There's nothing that shows the character's true motivation or why we should cheer for her, in light of her over-the-top technical knowledge at 15 or her cold narcissism. This isn't just a Riri problem, but a problem with most heroes introduced in comics from the past twenty or more years. It's either "wow, look at their cool powers or knowledge", or "hey, this character is so flawed", or "look how dark and gritty this is", without giving us a look at the heart of the character. This is one reason why I've always loved Iron Man - despite the ego, the sarcasm, the avoidant personality, the trauma responses, the drinking, the recklessness, or any of his other flaws, we see the man with a literal broken heart inside, a man who wants to make the world a better place, and fight injustice. Dare I say it, but you hit the nail on the head when you said about how Bendis' characters are better when he isn't writing them, and this is entirely why. Remember how I mentioned a "save the cat" moment? Maybe Bendis needs to read Blake Snyder's book of the same title, so he can figure out how to make actual sympathetic characters.

After I found about her re-writes from different authors, I for one do like RiRi Williams a lot more than I did before, and I'm really happy that she's finally been given the chance to fully become her own character. Also, as a black guy & someone who loves creating original characters, I just felt like Bendis's version of Riri lacked any character substance beyond the surface-level struggles that have been stereotypically given to so many other black characters throughout all of media in times past and present (the murder of Riri's father was the first example that came to my mind).

The honest answer is kind of.

i think riri works really well in a team dynamic (like the champions) because the "genius with poor social skills" archetype is fun to read when contrasted with optimists like ms marvel. but yeah i've only read her most recent solo book and that was pretty mid. it did some interesting lore stuff with tying her backstory to the ten rings, but it didn't actually make me feel invested in her as a character. she's just shown up with an interesting role in the current iron man book so hopefully that goes somewhere!

Riri in all honesty is someone I always saw as a lot of squandered potential; she started off with such an interesting angle as a kid genius who struggled to make real connections, and got over invested in the rare connections she did make, and how that all kept affecting her as she got to the precipice of becoming an adult and still struggling to even see the point of having friends But then all that was tossed out so we can learn her father was secretly a super villain because... Eh?

I'm surprised that you brought up that the name Iron Heart was also in an Iron Man porn parody from Japan that came out before RiRi debuted and that the armour they used look a lot like the armor she had I found that hilarious.

The ending bit was just perfect. Just really needed to be said

It really did feel like Riri could’ve been pretty good if the writer didn’t drop the ball, I still can’t get over that one flashback like wtf. Writers like Bendis seem to really lost their touch and it looks like writers after him kinda have to do damage control for the character.

Really interesting video. Genuinely was not expecting you to not like the character all the way through, but doing the work and building context on all sides really helped balance everything for a considered summation. Thanks for the hard work.

Couldn't care a less about her under Bendis. I really liked the run by Eve L. Ewing though. She wrote Riri with great verisimilitude and truly captured a voice for the character that resonated with me.

i think the biggest ingredient in her getting that much backlash was that she was too samey with the "real" iron man. she had stark's suit, she had his smarts, she had his character flaws, but really the only thing different WAS her skin and gender, and thus that's what all there was to see. people really only came around to miles too when he stopped just being peter again and did what HE did, around itsv. i dont know how she is now, i dont read comics, but still, that first impression didnt leave too much of any taste at all enough for any surface level criticism to NOT gain traction

Her revised suit was actually quite a good redesign. Besides the colour choices, the arc reactor design probably what makes it stand out. This design of a 'hear' is made more abstract in the movie version which I like even more, especially as it keeps the highly prominent black colour but changing the pink to red, which gives it a more 'super car' feel. The top of the helmet also has these grill designs almost like they're braids which make it look less boring despite how small the detail is.

I love how the mcu turned riri from mid to slightly above mid. It could've been worse but what they did with her character in black panther 2 is pretty good.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Love your videos for this reason: you read, you think, you use discernment, and you thoughtfully present your opinion while stating that this is just your opinion and your viewers should also read and think for themselves. I applaud you sir! And I am not a comic book person, however, if I am interested in a character or story arc, I will see if you have a video, watch it, and then make my choice. Thanks dude, keep it up.

Riri had a rough start but she landed somewhere really solid. I love reading about her now after she got her good solo run and her redesign

Not necessarily about Ironheart but just generally, I think it'd be cool if a hero had to stick with the prototype, clunky suit for a while, it's flaws being things to overcome (or sometimes use as a surprising advantage) before upgrading to a better one, or even gradually improving it until it's a sleek, perfect thing. I'm sure that's been done before, but I don't remember ever seeing it.

The problem with iron heart is that she was meant to replace both Ironman and warmachine after cw 2. Also didn’t help that there were some better options than a new character and that we got war machine punisher at the same time, which was way more interesting

You know it’s not a good character when the film version is just as annoying as the one in the book.

This is a really well done video, I never knew no much about Ironheart and never knew that Miles Morales was a target of bashing when he first came out until Into the Spider-verse, but now I know. Thank you for pointing out so many details people miss, like pointing out some other characters(Tony Stark, Peter Parker) that make the negative sayers look like hypocrites, and explaining what people complain about her are her character flaws, this video really helped me understand how to write characters properly and better understand Riri. I do hope that the MCU does to Riri that Into the Spider-verse did to Miles, make them good and likable characters, all we can do is just hope. (Also I just wanna quickly say that I do agree with you saying that it was a bad idea to give her suit coloring the exact same Tony, and from what you described from what was happening at the time, giving her suit her own color scheme was too late)

Wow, now it makes sense why Riri felt like a poor mans Miles Morales to me, because she is. Bendis also wrote Miles Morales' first appearance and made him really feel like just Peter Parker. Only where as Miles became interesting after changes in into the spider verse, Riri still just feels and looks like a less interesting, run of the mill legacy character that's probably not even gonna be a main stay. Riri just dosen't seem interesting to me, no matter what they do with her, she looked uninteresting in the Wakanda forever trailers and clips and just looked pretty dumb after they decided to make her look like a transformer for some reason.

I liked Riri enough. She did at least get better when Bendis left & it kinda helps that Marvel didn't completely drop her like a rock to help garner a decent fanbase. She definitely went more smoothly than Bendis's other attempt at making a young Black Woman superhero coughNaomicough

Yes , ironheart does suck , always has and will.

Every time Drake says, "There are no bad characters, just bad writers," I dream of the day when someone finally makes a comic with Holden Caulfield where his character works. Probably by getting punched by literally everyone in the world.

I've not really had a chance to read Riri's comics as of yet but this does seem to reaffirm a lot of what I felt/suspected, that being that the way she was handled kinda meant she was unfairly doomed on arrival. I'm also really hoping that the way she's introduced into the MCU helps a lot, it looks like it'll keep some of the spirit of what she was from the comic with her cobbling together a suit on her own before being given aid by Shuri (presumably as part of Wakanda's outreach program which is a perfect way to tie into T'Chala's impact). It helps that Tony is already long dead and he won't have even remotely as direct a role, so his presence won't be constantly looming over her robbing her of any unique focus. All speculative of course, they may still manage to screw things up (wouldn't shock me given the wonky state of phase 4 so far) but I have hope for now at least

It depends on who writes her, any and every character has the chance to be great. Unfortunately Bendis gotta Bendis. Her new suit is cool in the comics and her character over in Spider Punk is fucking dope. Just give the writer for Spider Punk a Riri series

Leaving a comment on the video itself drake!!! I can’t wait to see Riri on screen and see how she changes in the mcu

I have a lot of problems with Riri (a lot of wich have been fixed) but one of my biggest was the fact that she had a Jheri curl and the fact that she somehow managed to get that Jheri curl inside that helmet.

Love your content. By the way since Marvel Snap is a thing, reckon you’ll one day cover some of the more obscure characters that’s running the meta? Like the early meta is revolves around either Kazar or Devil Dino while in pool 2 we have to deal with Infinaut.

I like the concept behind riri, she had so much potential to be a great character but they fast tracked her was to hard instead of taking there time and crafting wonderfully creative storys for her to grow

I think the feeling of having something you love replace is what really pushes them. At least that is my perspective. Also I am surprised about not bringing up Jane Foster Thor here either. Overall I think the challenge is and will continue to be to promote and highlight unique characters to really put them in to the spot light without that "replacement" issue getting in their way to block their ability to grow and develop. What I mean by replacement is that they are being used to fill a gap in reader's hearts. So their expectations from the replacement is higher than if they were just on their own first. Sam Wilson as a replacement works because he stands for what Steve Rogers believed in while being his own person. Miles has to struggle and grow like Peter Parker and is also a likeable human being. I think that Riri feels less like a person and more of a role to fill. That is why I think boring describes a lot of the things she is in. Miles Morales I think people have latched onto because he is not Peter Parker, but represents what makes Spiderman so great. Just my opinion as my total knowledge is lacking, and subjectivity is a very real thing for comics.

I just got big SpyKids vibs from her. Nothing felt earned. Tony and Shuri had the best access to wealth, education and resources available to them as children, so it makes sense they were ahead in the field.

Before Wakanda Forever came out, I was most excited about seeing Ironheart, as I was expecting the next awesome Iron Man. Sadly, I was bored by every scene with her in it. She just felt so bland.

Yeah I'm hoping the MCU interpretation can elevate Riri the way Spiderverse did for Miles (although I don't think Miles was as disliked as Riri was). She just needs someone to take what works and run with those parts, drop the stuff that doesn't and hopefully add some cool new stuff

I've never read ironheart but I did get the pleasure of seeing the flashback scene on twitter and while weird af. I kinda understand what they were going for. She wanted someone to say she can't do that thing so she can go out her way to prove them wrong. It was just very odd in how they decided to do that

Short answer: Yes

I agree with you because you're right, not just because I like your content. Riri being shit on for being a narcissist is f'd up because TONY STARK is famous for being a narcissist. And while Riri wanting her teacher to be harder on her is certainly an insensitive character moment, I would think that someone who doesn't feel challenged in school would look for options, sometimes in even the dumbest of ways. (Remember, kids lack experience. I know as a kid I wasn't feeling challenged, but didn't know what to do about it. I eventually gave up and played a port of Yoshi on a graphing calculators. Of course, my experiences don't equal anyone else's, so grain of salt, please.) I honestly can't afford to get into comics, but I feel Riri should be allowed to be fleshed out more. Miles and Kamala have had a lot of love and soul put into them as characters. Riri didn't get that. I hope her MCU debut will get Marvel to consider better ways for her as a character to move forward.

I really think Dominique Thorne will do a great job and give Riri Williams a great personality that gives her depth and room to explore in the future

The reason why characters like Riri and Miles are received negatively is not because they are held to higher standards. It is because they are presented (or at least perceived) as a replacement for the far more iconic originals. Storm, Vixen, Luke Cage, Blade etc. are positively received because they are original, well written black characters.

Another great video Drake. Your vids always propel me to go back and read comics I missed.

I do enjoy hearing your takes on comic book discourse and I'm sorry to hear that you got so heated up about this particular topic. Enjoy your last few days of warm weather Drake for the year. Hope your next video sees you in better spirits my guy.

I never liked her character because I was an iron man fan and it bothers me when they just "replace" somebody. Similar to keeping the beetle name without the original guy, etc.

10:30 The problem isn't that a character has flaws. It's that a character has flaws and never has the plot acknowledge them. A good example would be pink diamond from steven universe. It's fine that the character was flawed, but the fact that the plot never acknowledges the awfulness in the fact she rebelled, destroying nearly all of her people, then kicked rocks and left once she didn't feel like it anymore, is a seriously understated problem in the worldbuilding and characterization of the show and its characters. It's the same for Riri, her original run made her unlikable but the plot never acknowledges her as unlikable, and only keep patting her on the back and giving her help. If they portrayed the hero who kicked off the original civil war event as a happy-go-lucky guy who made a single mistake instead of the conceited, self-centered murderer he actually was, the same people would be saying the same thing.

One of the reasons i'm a fan of Ironheart was because i was endeared alot to how she's written like someone with ADHD (and/or autism) ((also meeting her first in the Champions so she wasn't being written by Bendis probably helped)) Given marvel's track record with characters claiming to develop autism cures, i never expect Riri's place on the spectrum to get canonized like Moon Girl's was - but my reasons for thinking so include: (varying degrees of spoilers warning) During SHIELD's rundown on her daily schedule, it highlights how she'd routinely forget to eat breakfast after getting an idea for an invention and her mom coming home to see Riri's breakfast untouched In the Champions issue that they introduced the mobile bunker, her being fixated on tinkering with the bunker and not paying attention to Kamala's efforts to get her to socialise with the rest of the team Her difficulty with interacting with most anyone and the whole thing with Viv And finally her meltdown near the cliff-hanger ending of the ten rings arc

Nah that first in the movie was to much for the first time. She begged a classmate for $80 cashapp in the beginning but owns a supercar and a perfect ironman suit.

Personally,i enjoyed her first ironheart run(not invincible ironman btw) and her arc in wakanda with Shuri and Okoye so i'm glad she is appearing in wakanda.

Short answer:Yes Long answer: Hell fking yes

My problem with Riri was how much people said she was smart but showed feats that wouldn’t highlight how smart she was. She made her own Iron Man suit from scraps of Iron Man suits in her MIT College classes. She’s smarter than Tony Stark who made the Iron Man suit, in a cave. Yes, the over hate was ridiculous but the writing didn’t help. I am always annoyed whenever writers want to tell me things about a character and show me something else. I only read a couple of issues so maybe things changed but again, I don’t like people saying someone is the lighting fast but they can’t dodge a bullet. Which is it? Riri was a great concept with poor execution. Similar with Miles Morales. Thankfully they both grew later on [>

I was not a big Riri fan until her inclusion in the Champions run (It's one of my favorites, so I may be a little biased) where she was given the genius with poor social skills" archetype that made her stand up in the team. Hope her introduction in Wakanda Forever is well done

The 2017 Spider-Man animated series made Ironheart way more fun and endearing plus served as a better introduction to her character that her original comic run. Her MCU version will probably also be better received overall

Dude ironheart is awesome, I put her in every deck I make +2 to 3 others is awesome..... Wait she has a comic?!

Happy to see the video came out great!

Great video, I can feel your emotional labor while discussing this topic.. It was pretty funny to end the video just walking off-screen exhausted and done with this shit

I'm curious as to how they will handle the character, similar to what you said about miles media outside comic books are good ways to re-invent a character. just look at the comics before the MCU many heroes that are popular now weren't back in the day.

Shes way too boring to be insulting.

Bendis gets cred for creating Iron Heart, Mile's Spidey, and to an extent Naomi. However, his touch is more Midas than anything else

Short answer: YES

In iron man iron wars didn’t tony go after ANYONE that took his Ironman tech both hero and villain to neutralize his tech and now tony is giving it to her?

I'm of a similar mind as you. I disliked Miles and Riri upon debut, but once we got some different writers that developed the character's better than Bendis (I agree that he's lost his touch as a writer, making very weird decisions across the board here recently). But now, I genuinely enjoy Miles and Riri when they show up in different titles, and I'm hoping that her MCU debut will be a better start for the character than her Comics debut. Three days to go to see if my hope is not misplaced.

I remember I checked out Riri when she first came out and I was really confused who she was (cuz I hadn't read Civil War 2 yet), but I wasn't a fan, but mostly cuz she felt very temporary. However, I do like how she's written in the animated shows such as Avengers Assemble and the new Spiderman

Love your videos man. I always can't wait for your new vid. But I really need to know where did you get that Cheetos mug

It's a +2 for 3 Units, essential a 6 for 3 energy. That's kinda good I'd say!

Newer read a comic about her, but I at least hope that MCU will stick with gundam-like design for her. It just looks badass.

I'm stunned at how deep black that shirt of yours looks in this video. I'll assume it's fairly new or the result of color grading shenanigans, but anyway: looks great on you! Also, thank you for bringing nuance into the platform!

It would be interesting to see a compare and contrast between Riri and Lunella as there are similarities along with their first appearances being around a year apart from each other. Like I’m not too sure how reacted to her when she first came out, cause I more invested in DC in terms of comics, but it seemed like she had an warmer welcome due to Devil Dinosaur hardly having any series with the last attempt being in 2005, so around a 10 year gap.

Riri in the beginning had some rough patches but overtime she became a fascinating and interesting character

Yes, yes she does

Wonderful video as always, absolutely rocking the MCR merch!

A great idea would be not focusing on Riri herself but her potential and limitations but not just hers. Sure she can build her own iron man suit, and can get pretty close to his modern suits when given the schematics and recourses to do so, which means that there are others than could do the same, leading to a sort of internship/contest with stark industries with a bunch of other potential characters, sort of like a spiritual successor to the armor wars story line

You seem to always refer to it not being in the comics, well, that's my issue with Shuri. They removed T'Challa's intellect and gave it her. T'Challa is one of my favourite characters in comics, but the fact that they essentially watered him down just to prop his sister up, then killed him off. To say that this upsets me is an understatement. They removed my one "representation" from the MCU, turning a movie about a powerful black king into a girl power movie.

The one thing I am getting form this video is not that Riri Williams is a bad character, she just suffers from bad writing. Also, the thing that people need to remember about the MCU is they tend to create their OWN version of the character completely separate from the source material.

Love the channel can’t wait for more uploads

18:30 Just cause your a Fan of the mcu doesn't mean you have to be a fan of every character...

Her suit in the MCU does not look good

I liked ironheart, well the one written by ewing. But that could alao be seeing the character without the baggae of the earlier stories,which have issues yes. Bendis had some moments of potenial that were covered up by not so great stuff. Ewing managed to make a flawed yet rootable hero, give her a decent supporting cast and build on what was good from bendis, mainly the stuff with her tragic backstory. He also gave her new villains by adding an altered ten rings org. That is not a copy paste from shan chi. Its just plenty of comics characters who were obscure or silly or not working early on get "good" later. In that way a character like say Mantis or ironheart wont be defined by the context of earliet stuff and grow beyond their creator. But I get Drake's veiw to. Just trying to show that developing an informed opinion he brought up.

Love your work. I like that you called attention to people biases and admitted your own. I like that you asked people to read the source material open mindedly to form their own opinions rather than mimic someone else's. I love that you stated what you did and didn't like, with reference to the material, the politics, and that the writers could have done better. I love that you called out the inequity of standards. Please keep up your awesome work.

A good companion video to this I think would be Sarah Z's video "Sacrificial Trash". A lot of similar points and explores more about such topics. Great video!

She’s a prime example of a writer using an original character to fill a spot that was already taken by another writers character in the hopes of scoring a paycheck when they get used in a movie or show. So instead of using Lila Rhodes created in 2014 we get Riri Williams created in 2016.

Riri Williams is in this limbo to me of being a character that I WANT to like but will never be allowed to like because writers will be too afraid to write for her because of the negative stigma already surrounding her causing me to want to like her but won’t be allowed to and etc etc

I don’t have much of an opinion of Riri in the comics I haven’t read, but I liked her part in Black Panther 2, & I’d like to see more stuff from that integrated into the comics proper.

I ended up reading nearly every single Free Comic Book Day comic this year, due to ending up being within walking distance of three shops when I was with one of my girlfriends during it. Of those comics, Marvel Voices had an Ironheart story in it, and honestly it was one of my favorite stories in the batch. Its so far my only exposure to the character, but I liked the short story she was in quite a bit.

I like this guy, he did his homework

I'm okay with Riri. The idea of people backwards engineering super tech should definitely helpful. Definitely would have benefited from a different writer - maybe one who could better understand what Riri's experience might have been. Infamous Iron Man I enjoyed a lot, but I think was an effort to capture Superior Spider-Man vibes. Interesting that Bendis went and tried something similar with Naomi. (Repeating some of the same problems.)

Let's be honest Brian Michael Bendis is the real Villain at Marvel. He did destroy Guardians of the Galaxy.

17:33 Yeah, this is what I’m hoping for. It would be wonderful if the MCU can recognize what went wrong with Comic Riri and, with the benefit of hindsight, *optimize* her debut to make her a solid and interesting character from day 1. I’m kinda concerned with how “ideal” it will be to try to pull that off ON TOP of everything else that’s going on in the new *Black Panther* movie…but if they succeed, that’ll be great.

She's pretty inoffensive in her solo book. I think she's a character who has potential still, just needs a writer who can giver her a bit more charm. Her solo book wasn't actually half bad. It had some nice ideas and the art was nice but I think it still felt very surface level.

I think Riri has a lot of potential. She definitely gives of next-generation vibes. Someone to take the mantle when Tony leaves the suit for good. I love a good mentorship story and Tony is an incredibly flawed person who would benefit to learn alongside his student.

You’re so real man and I appreciate that! It’s for that reason I just subscribed. 👍

I remember first reading Riri in the Bendis run of iron man, but as drake said despite Bendis having a reputation for amazing work with ultimate Spider-Man and avengers, by the time he was writing iron man he was not at his A game. This was especially made more apparent when he had to write tie ins during that series for an avengers storyline (building up to the cosmic cube being a child) and Bendis's civil war II (plus the fallout of secret wars... Which was actually good but had to deal with "what does marvel do with doctor doo with no fantastic 4?), So in that series Tony had no development much less riri who was being introduced (and the idea of a MIT student replicating the mechanics of an iron mansuite, but not the AI is amazing! And something that would have been sooo much fun to explore). So following civil war II I jumped into the doctor Doom invincible iron man book because I wanted to know what dooms new status quo was post civil war. Bendis's work did nothing for me. However, I was a fan of the new ms. Marvel series as well as miles moralas spider man so I picked up champions (and I will continue to do so... As of this post)..that's where I started to like Riri (allthough not to the extent to pay for individual series). I did like her complex friendship with viv vision where Viv had a crush on Riri and kissed her, yet Riri scorned her because her character is yes black, but not gay/queer (possibly a commentary gainst an industry which tries to combine their queer characters with their non-white characters just to get 2 for the price of one). The awkward relationship, especially with Viv's lack of human emotions Vs riris, was interesting especially in a book about teenage super heroes (thank the eternals that the new "new warriors" book was shelved forever). But yeh, I do get drakes feelings about the character. Her introduction was married with marvels usuall over saturation of events. Her character then wasn't lowed to breath and form her own identity - she's unfortunately become the example of what not to do with new characters, especially in the wake of miles's spider man and Kamala's ms. Marvel - it's all about how silled the writer is, and by extension hownconfident the publisher is in your new character. (Fyi for more reference I did just finish rereading the Jaime rayas blue beetle volumes which sort of re runs this topic of a new character from a non-white background taking up the mantle of an established hero)

And it also deserves saying: you can just stop reading the books you don't like. When Deadpool got handed over to Posehn and Duggan I kept on reading from the Way era. But I found the book to not have the same heart I loved from the prior series. So I just stopped buying it. It wasn't BAD, it just wasn't what I wanted.

I personally do really like riri after reading her newer self titled run and champions.

Remember that is also alright to not care really about it and keep going forward. So if people say you should go and read it ... If you really don't want to, don't do it.

- i forgot Riri existed tbh, that whole "is Avengers 2 but teens, also the Avengers 1 are still here" era never really caught my interest... so yeah i hope we get an Into the Spiderverse but for Riri, the MCU managed to make Tony interesting they can do the same for her - also yeah, if you wanna hate something, then actually experiencing it is going to give you even more material to bitchh about, so is still a win-win

I was an old hater on Ironheart when the comic first came around, but I was still excited to see her in the new movie. I get excited for her being introduced to more people because someone is gonna love her. Its okay if something isn't your cup of tea. Maybe you aren't the targeted demographic and that's how I felt back then. Love all your points in the video btw