Do you know how to stop the alarm when you turn on the battery ?

Thanks very much for the info, Ben and indeed the ATR! That sounds like a great solution. It's very commendable, that the team tried to replicate the displays accurately, but of course this can have its limitations within the sim. At least with your proposed measure, everyone should be able to enjoy the ATR more readily : ) Cheers and all the best!

why this plane has 0.0/5 stars in MSFS store? no one buying them?

Hi Smolex, If I had to guess, it’s probably something to do with the fact the addon was recently updated (and perhaps the Marketplace now counts it as a “new” product). It’s not the first time I’ve seen something like that happen with regards to ratings on the Marketplace but undoubtedly, the ATR has sold *a lot* of units (and I’m sure received a lot of reviews) haha. All the best : )

DUDE... YOU SCAMMED ME OF 20 EUROS!! When I load it the battery is on OVRD, not a single screen turns on and wipers are set to fast

Indeed Mr Squirel; it’s nice to finally have a regional turboprop in the sim and a decent / very fairly priced one at that. The ATR is obviously very good value for money, I think Asobo were just a touch ambitious with their “Expert Level” moniker and that’s really where most of the blowback stems from (the product is a fine effort in and of itself). As you say, hopefully the major issues will be fixed up and indeed we have just seen the first patch for the addon. I’m glad you enjoyed another NZ outing, it’s always somewhere that is an absolute pleasure to fly (indeed, I’m in the process of recording another NZ vid at the moment haha)! My pleasure on the video! Take care and all the best : )

That is actually the "correct" way to do this as per ATR FCOM and the reason that bug was overlooked is probably that it was beta tested by ATR pilots that were doing everything by the book. I wish Asobo included aircraft in their public beta testing as a lot of bugs would be found by "incompetent" people , I suspect a few more quirks are do to this and they will be ironed out !

Whenever I do this to enter an airway, it puts it on the flight plan but copies the airway like 5 times over, and I have to go in and delete the extra checkpoints one by one. Very frustrating.

@@SoldierXXL I wonder if the actual aircraft won’t let you do it though? We can’t whinge about something being a bug when it mirrors the correct behaviour, while also whinging that it’s not expert/ study level….

@@jeremyc311709 I experienced this too, then realised I’d entered the waypoint that was on the near end of the airway, not the end I was flying to. Selecting ‘undo’ then selecting the correct waypoint at the FAR end of the airway rectified this

​@AviatorTN83 if you do it all from the soft key vs manually entering, it will work perfectly

Thanks very much Kirt, I’m really glad you enjoyed the video! I certainly try to a give a (somewhat) concise overview of what any particular addon has to offer. For my own benefit, as much as anything, I also try to turn that process into an entertaining flight haha. I’m always happy if the review helps someone decide where best to invest their money / time. Cheers! Much appreciated and all the best : )

Thanks very much NG! What I sometimes lack in punctuality, I try to make up for with quality haha. I’m really glad you enjoyed the landing - the pax view does look rather convincing on the ATR : ) Thanks very much once again, much appreciated!

Thank you very much Paul, I’m glad you found the video to be of use! Certainly, the ATR seems to have divided opinion haha. I think a lot of that came down to expectation management, “expert level” is rather a loaded moniker in many respects (if the product had been marketed as any other, I don’t think anyone would disagree that the ATR offers solid value for money). I enjoyed the ATR, but the addon isn’t without its flaws, hopefully I conveyed both of those points during the video : ) Cheers and all the best!

I do hope you enjoyed the video then IG and found it useful in making your purchasing decision. Thanks for watching and all the best! : )

Thank you very much for the kind words, Pedro! Haha well, my commentary style seems to receive mixed reviews, but it’s not something I do on purpose, so I guess you’re all stuck with it ; ) I’m really glad you feel it makes the whole experience more immersive though; I very much want my videos to feel like you are sitting in the pilot’s seat. My absolute pleasure! Thanks again and all the best : )

Haha, well thanks very much, Chris! I’m really glad you enjoyed the video, despite my slight incapacitation ha. I’m feeling much better now thanks - fighting fit for the next review ; ) Cheers for the kind words. Much appreciated and all the best!

Thanks very much once again, Brandon! I’m glad you enjoyed it : ) I see you’ve been playing with Spitfires; I must say that I’m very jealous (glad you’re enjoying the new job ; ) Cheers, all the best!

My absolute pleasure, Kiwi, I’m really glad you enjoyed it! The FPS drop is indeed a pretty massive hit; whilst I didn’t notice any slowdown during the flight itself, one would hope that Asobo can better optimise the aircraft with subsequent updates. Thanks very much and all the best : )

Thanks very much Eamon, I’m really glad you enjoyed it! I actually often used to have external shots during the takeoff and landing (and still do sometimes), but gravitated more towards wing views, as I felt they maintained the “immersion” a little better. What I would like to do, is have takeoff / landing flyby views, but I’ve still not found a completely satisfactory way of accomplishing that. Anyway, thanks very much for your suggestion and I will keep it under advisement ; ) Much appreciated and all the best! : )

Thanks very much zkd0s! I was waiting (with baited breath haha) to see what you thought - I’m glad I wasn’t too far wide of the mark. It’s great to see that the first patch has already gone out and hopefully we’ll continue to see the ATR improve. As you say, one can’t go too far wrong for $10 / $20 ; ) Thanks very much also for the tutorials, they proved very helpful in getting me started! Cheers as always! Hope you’re keeping well : )

Thanks very much Lior, glad you enjoyed it! Yes, it’s great to see that we’ve already had 1 update, that addresses many of the aircraft’s major issues. I’m looking forward to seeing what the future brings for the ATR : ) Cheers and all the best!

Haha! XD Thanks very much Achim! I’m certainly feeling a whole lot better now (although there might still be one or two videos with a slightly croaky voice haha). My pleasure on the video, I was gutted that I couldn’t do it sooner! Much appreciated and all the best to you : )

Cheers Mark, much appreciated! : )

Ah well I’m really glad the video brought back some nice memories, Aprilla! Thanks for watching and all the best to you : )

Thanks very much AS! Indeed, you can’t go too far wrong with a spot of NZ flying and a classic ANZ livery ; ) Haha! Yes, going around the weather is generally to be encouraged, but when you have a you baby at home, it seems you’re just dodging one “storm” after the next haha. I was particularly miffed, as I came down with the lurgy right before my leave XD My pleasure and all the best! : )

Haha, thanks very much Runman, I try my best ; ) Much appreciated! I’m really glad you enjoyed it. Cheers : )

P.S. get well soon!

Thanks very much John, I’m really glad you enjoyed it! Feeling much better now thanks and ready to take on the next review haha ; ) Much appreciated. All the best to you!

Absolutely Ray; for the price, one can’t go too far wrong with the ATR and it’s great to see that the first update has already been put out. I’m glad you’re enjoying the addon. Happy flying and all the best! : )

Glad you’re enjoying the ATR sir! My pleasure on the video (happy to hear you felt you got something out of it : ) Happy flying!

Hello Gábor, I’m 50/50 with you on that one ; ) Indeed, expectation management can often be a problem. Sometimes it’s self-induced and sometimes the devs have a part to play (as has been said on a number of occasions, the fact that many of these terms such as “study level” etc are open to interpretation, often adds fuel to the fire also). The ATR’s main “issue”, was that people set their hopes very high (I would argue, somewhat as a result of the marketing) and then many felt a little bit disappointed / frustrated as a result. There’s no doubt in my mind, has the ATR been marketed as “just” another product, we’d all be singing it’s praises. Where I disagree somewhat, is that to me, “study level” or (arguably even more so) “expert level”, really suggests the pinnacle in terms of fidelity / accuracy etc. To me, neither the CRJ, FBW A320, or indeed the ATR fall under that umbrella (though of course there’s no right or wrong answer, it’s just *my* opinion). Bugs are not the same as a lack I systems fidelity, I agree, but on the face of it, the ATR seemed to have areas that were “lacking”, as compared with the likes of the Fenix A320, PMDG 737 etc. All of the above being said, I do think the ATR is a very solid offering for the price! As I said in the video, I think it’s a brilliant offering for “intermediate” simmers and those of us who don’t need every rivet to be in the correct spot, before we can go and enjoy the flight. It’s great to see that the first update for the aircraft has already been put out and I hope we will see the ATR go from strength to strength. That’s my take on the situation anyway, for what it’s worth haha. Cheers for your thoughts and all the best! : )

Thanks very much David, great to hear that you enjoyed the review! The first update is already out, which is nice to see and I’m pleased to hear that you’ve been having fun with the ATR. Happy flying and all the best! : )

Thanks very much Turbo Life, I’m really glad you enjoyed it! My pleasure and all the best to you : )

Well thanks very much Richard! I’m really glad you enjoyed the video, even if the ATR isn’t the sort of thing you’d ordinarily go for. I’m feeling much better now thanks - fighting fit for the next review haha ; ) Thanks once again! Much appreciated and all the best : )

Good to hear 👍

Thanks very much for the info, Jon! The long-press option is certainly a good trick to know. What I was ideally after, was that the EFB take the sim’s weight data and display that directly or better yet, that the aircraft’s weight can be adjusted via the EFB. Currently, the logic seems to be a bit backwards to me, as it’s not much use having an EFB which tells you what you already know (having already entered the data into the MCDU). Much appreciated! All the best : )

Thanks very much for the clarification, Alexander and indeed your kind words. Personally, I still feel that the “expert” moniker is somewhat misleading, but I can appreciate that Asobo wants to differentiate this addon series from the others. “Advanced” (or something similar) might have perhaps been a better term (to me, “expert” really suggests the highest level in complexity). As much as I love Asobo and the sim that they have given us, I strongly disagree with their decision regarding manuals; documentation is not a “nice to have”, it’s an important part of the product (especially one of this complexity) and to call something “expert level” and then not provide a manual, seems a little bit of a juxtaposition to me. It’s also disappointing to see that this trend is starting to catch on with other developers. We have arguably the greatest flight simulator of all time, but it’s sad that new simmers are not being given the same opportunities to learn / improve, as many of us were in older sims (tutorials and documentation were always superb in older Microsoft sims). Thanks very much once again! All the best : )

Ha ha that comment made my day!

It feels underpowered fully loaded in the sim. Is that real to life? I've flown on them as a few times as a passenger, Dublin-Manchester, not much slower than an A320.

@@spuriouspodge7416 In the summer full load 500 feet/min if you lucky 🤞. In the winter so much ice that it gets scary. Like flying on top af a flagpole. The short is formed like a wing itself and strappers and stuff hanging out and says Hello stick to me please. Had two engine failure within a couple of months eachother. The last on dropped out of the Sky and we managed to get going level flight at around 1500 feet, flaps almost full deployed to avoid stalling. Prop Governor failure and unable to fully feather 🪶. Lot of ice and flaps didn't make things easier. Just about 50 nm off the coastline. I got a pratt and whitney dependable engines tattoo 😊 after that one, after all the engine didn't failed right but what a noise when the propeller was trying to match the 28000 rpm of the power turbine. What saved us I think was the warm water over the sea Vs much colder air over land in winter times and we could clean up and limp back under the cloud cover. The most funny part was, when it happened I was smoking a fag and had a Coca-Cola can in my other hand and the skipper trying to get rid of his fag to me. I Will never forget the fought of what was potentially awaiting us descending towards the sea.

A Short 360 in the sim would be fun. It looks like a box other airplanes come in.

Black Box simulation is bringing the Short 330 but also its larger sibling, the Short 360, and the C-23 SHERPA to the sim and is currently in beta testing so I believe 😊

You’re most welcome sir! The ATR is certainly decent for the price, but there are better options out there (and it doesn’t come with any AMRAAM’s of GBU’s either ; ) I was somewhat shocked by the FPS hit, I think that’s probably the worst one I have come across in the sim to date. To be fair, the sim didn’t feel any slower during the flight, but I would still hope that Asobo / Hans work on some optimisations haha. Happy flying and have a great weekend! : )

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks mate. I ended up buying it a few days ago. (tbh slight regret i didn't go for the C160) The FPS hit is from the radar. If you turn that off it isn't nearly as bad. Fun thing as DCS pushed Normandy 2 it rekindled my IL-2 love and finally bought into that after a hiatus since the "46 hayday, gues i fly 3 sims now :P Have a great weekend!

Haha, cheers Øystein! I was a bit late to the party with the ATR, so I tried to make up for it with a thorough review : P Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy the ATR for what it is. I do still think that Asobo shot themselves in the foot a little bit with the marketing though (getting some people’s hopes up with the “expert level” branding), but I take you’re point and what one considers “expert”, is of course a matter of perspective at the end of the day (Asobo probably could have come up with a more “diplomatic” moniker though ; ) Thanks for the pointer re the MDA. I was wondering about that haha (I assumed it wasn’t supposed to be flashing, but couldn’t figure out how to make it stop). Thanks very much as always! Happy flying : )

Thanks very much Anjinsan, I’m really glad you enjoyed it! My pleasure and thanks for watching : )

Thank you very much Peter, my pleasure as always! I think that’s a reasonable conclusion overall: Whilst the ATR is not perfect, it’s a decent offering for the price and has enough depth to it, that it will be enjoyable to jump in every now and then. It’s great to see that the aircraft has already received an update and I think / hope that there will be more improvements to come. Happy flying and all the best! : )

Many thanks once again, Mark! I very much agree that for the “average” simmer, the ATR is a nice option and indeed, I largely enjoyed the addon myself. “Expert level” suggests to me, that the addon ought to be at the very pinnacle of what we can expect from a product and I don’t think the ATR is there, but maybe that’s just an issue with my interpretation (although I do think the marketing from Asobo could have been a bit clearer). As you rightly mention, for the price, the ATR in undoubtedly an excellent offering and it’s really just a few bugs holding it back (some of which have already been fixed up). Haha, I’m actually not a big tea drinker, Mark; I don’t dislike tea, but I don’t habitually drink it - I’m a terrible Brit I know XD Cheers once again. I hope you’re having a great weekend!

Who said there's going to be failure simulation?

Great, happy to hear you’re enjoying the ATR, Harold! Have Asobo said that failures will he added at a later date then? Happy flying and all the best : )

The entire plane is a failure simulation. Good luck completing one flight without either the engine failing to start, failing to cut off, the autopilot going crazy, the plane 2 dots under the glide slope in approach mode, etc...

Yes, it’s a lovely livery, isn’t it, BC! To my mind, much more aesthetically pleasing than the “all black” livery, that ANZ have gone with in more recent times. Cheers : )

Absolutely, Chad; I generally prefer shorter flights in the sim myself. I’d be very keen to see a Saab 340, Fokker F50, ATP, Jetstream etc. I’m sure in time, we’ll see the regional / commuter market fleshed out further : ) Happy flying and all the best!

​@@IntotheBlueSimulationswe need the de havilland dash 800 too its in the same category

There are even the older turbo-probs like the HS 748, the Fokker F-27 Friendship, the Fokker F-50 or the Antonov AN-24. I'm very fond of them and they are welcome break from all the newer TPs and jets.

Hi Zarniwoop, It is great to see a regional turboprop in the sim and the ATR offers solid value for money overall. The displays are indeed very tricky to read, but the good news is that the devs seem to have taken that feedback onboard and will apparently be addressing display readability in a later update (they initially wanted to go for accurate displays, which is commendable, but perhaps not practical in this case). The first update has already been put out, which is rather promising and hopefully we’ll see further tweaks to other areas of the product going forward. Cheers and all the best! : )

I’m really glad you enjoyed the video, Tuhoeterra and indeed seeing Wellington (or Gisborne) airport! Thanks very much for watching and all the best : )

Thanks very much for the pointer Bernard. I didn’t dare touch the 2nd MCDU, as I was worried about another CTD haha (and I had the 2nd MCDU go blank on me a couple of times also). I did get the V speeds up when I was learning the aircraft and then couldn’t remember how I’d done it thereafter XD Much appreciated. All the best! : )

That’s fair enough Alexander. I think it’s preferable to be able to do these sorts of things from within the EFB, but if that’s what Asobo prefers, who am I to argue haha. My only real gripe, was that the weight and balance data was not showing on the EFB, until after the MCDU has been populated. Ideally (in my opinion), the EFB should take the weight data from the sim and then one can readily see what needs to be entered into the MCDU (as is the case with most addons, including the CRJ). I hope that makes sense. Cheers once again : )

Is this update publicly released, or still in testing?

@@SamCAviation Already included with the updated version.

@@metzgergva are you saying that's the one on marketplace because no, it currently autorotates.

you mean to say that the aircraft was tested with sensitivity set at -30? I thought devs always used the default sensitivty settings as their referance

That’s great to hear Alexander and it’s brilliant to see that the first update has already been put out. That’s an interesting point regarding control sensitivities; I noticed recently, that the default values have changed in the sim and thought that was a bit odd (surely “0” ought to be the baseline and then the sim’s flight modelling tweaked from there). I have my controls set at the default values (other than rudder sensitivity at -50) but I am using a joystick, which of course is going to give a snappier response than a yoke with a decent throw. Thanks very much for the info! : )

Thanks very much for the info, Jon. Always good to hear from those that have actual experience with the aircraft : ) Much appreciated, all the best!

Yes, I can confirm that does work but the shorter method of entry not working and causing either a lock-up or duplicate entries to appear in the flightplan is certainly still a bug that needs addressing. 737NGDriver's latest videos on this subject seem to point the finger at it being largely user error as a result of the lack of documentation.

@@I_Evo Indeed as the way mentioned above is the ATR FCOM way.

@@SoldierXXL Yes, but I doubt doing it the 'incorrect' way in the real aircraft results in the FMC locking up or the other funky things I've seen.

@I Evo It does not indeed but they only let real ATR pilots test the aircraft, and they did everything by the book so they missed the bug. This is beta testing 101 they failed at ! Always have "incompetent" people try and break your software to make sure it's fool proof.

Thanks very much for the pointer, BleachMan! I seem to recall, that I was having issues with the airways whichever method I used, but perhaps I have misremembered. . . That certainly wasn’t the only issue I was having with the MCDU’s at any rate. It’s great to see that the recent update has at least partially fixed the issue though. Cheers for the feedback. Much appreciated and all the best! : )

Haha! I did and I am, thanks very much, Arthur! Much appreciated, all the best : )

Thanks very much Reason! Haha, well I do hope you enjoy / enjoyed the ATR, as and when the time comes. For $12, one can’t go too far wrong ; ) Happy flying and all the best! : )

Indeed, Stanley; the sounds aren’t “bad” per se, but even to a layman (when it comes to the ATR), it’s pretty clear that the soundset doesn’t do much to capture the noise / atmosphere of a turboprop. Unfortunately, once an aircraft has been released, very few devs tend to make any adjustments to the soundset thereafter (hopefully Hans / Asobo will buck the trend on this occasion). Cheers for the feedback! All the best : )

Thanks very much once again, Ceegnz! Haha what can I say, I’m a one-trick pony XD To be fair, whilst I haven’t gotten a straight answer either way (and this is the sort of thing where a manual would really come in handy!), my understanding is that using the LSK is the “ATR” way of doing things (hence why none of the real world ATR drivers found the bug), but that entering the airways manually, should still be a valid option also (the ATR’s patch notes would seem to suggest that). Have I got the wrong end of the stick there? Either way, it obviously shouldn’t be causing the MCDU to freeze up entirely, but it’s great to see that the devs have already taken care of that issue ; ) Cheers for your input. Much appreciated!

Haha, indeed John! Luckily, I’m feeling much better now though and it seems the ATR is also “on the mend”, with the first update having just been released. I’m really glad you enjoyed the video, croaky voice and all haha. Cheers once again! : )

Hi BOPM, Cheers, I’m glad you enjoyed it! I added in the flight attendant’s briefing during editing (for immersion). There are certain addon programs, that will allow for similar functionality within MSFS (eg PACX) however, I’m not familiar with their operation and haven’t tried them myself. I hope that clarifies things. All the best! : )

Yep, a very valid point, Richie. As I say, I do believe the ATR offers very good value for money, I just think that Asobo could have been a bit clearer with their marketing - that’s where most peoples disappointment really stems from. Had the ATR been marketed with a more modest moniker, I’ve no doubt everyone would be singing its praises. Either way, what matters is the quality of the product of course and it’s great to see that the addon has already received an update : ) Happy flying and all the best!

Thanks very much for your observations, Jakob! Hopefully Asobo / Hans are well aware of them and working away at fixing the issues (if the first update hasn’t taken care of some of them already). Much appreciated and all the best to you! : )

Thanks very much for your thoughts, Lawrence. I take your point and 100% agree - there’s no way the ATR would have been so cheap without Asobo’s backing, but (I think) one can only really judge a product based on what it actually costs, rather than what it probably *should* cost (and at the end of the day, I think most are very happy that we now have a sim that is generally affordable, in terms of addon purchases etc). I wasn’t really expecting the ATR to be “study level”, but I can understand (given Asobo’s “expert level” marketing) why many people were and I can appreciate why they felt a little bit let down as a result. I’m no marketing expert haha, but it’s probably a little bit better to underpromise and overdeliver, rather than vice versa. As you say, with no dictionary definition of all these terms, people end up creating their own ideas / expectations. At the end of the day, I do think the ATR is a good product and will suit many simmers perfectly. There were one or two bugs I would have liked to have seen fixed before release, but that is true of most products these days. Cheers once again and all the best! : )

I'm glad you've been enjoying the ATR, Sergio! Happy flying and all the best : )

Glad to hear that you're enjoying the ATR, Dave! Happy flying and all the best : )

I do think the ATR is pretty good value for money overall FG, I just think that Asobo shot themselves in the foot a little with the marketing. If the ATR had been released like any other “Famous Flyer” / “Local Legend”, every man and his dog would be singing the aircraft’s praises haha. Happy flying and all the best! : )

Thanks very much CTL, I did indeed do that during the video hehe ; ) The pointer is much appreciated though. All the best! : )

@IntotheBlueSimulations I suppose I need to watch all before commenting. Won't happen again. Keep up the best flight sim videos out there

Haha, not at all! Thanks very much for the kind words and all the best to you : )

I know what you mean and it’s the reason I never really watch this guy. His narration is very wooden indeed.

It's either intentionally or subconsciously the tone and cadence of a pilot on comms.

Copper? Actually that's a great compliment. Factual, accurate, concise and measured information, one reason I subscribe to this channel. "Clear cop!", or maybe I got that phrase wrong :)

Thanks very much Aspect, I’m really glad you (mostly) enjoyed the video haha! Re the narration - you and me both to be honest ha; I’m simply not a natural orator though and whilst I do try my best, I’m certainly aware that my commentary style is probably not as engaging as many other content creators. We’ve all got to work with what we were given though, so what I lack in the entertainment department, I try to make up for with preparedness and a thorough / honest review ; ) Cheers and all the best! : )

Haha, it’s a little bit of both, Don: As people often comment on my “style”, I am conscious of how I end up narrating, but the cadence etc isn’t “put on” and for better or worse, I don’t seem to be able to change it much, even when I try (as soon as I start focusing on the flying etc, I return to default ha). Cheers, all the best!

Thanks very much Soul, I'm really happy to hear that you enjoyed the video! The ATC is real-world recordings (from LiveATC.net), which I’ve then edited into the video. There is actually an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : ) I generate my flight plans using SimBrief. You need to need to create an account to use the service, but it's free otherwise and highly recommended! I hope that helps. All the best!

I’m really happy to hear that you’re enjoying the aircraft, CS! It’s great to see that the ATR has already had an update and hopefully things will continue to improve going forwards. Happy flying and all the best! : )

Hi Zaelu, Of course, neither moniker has a dictionary definition and what is considered “study level”, will vary from one simmer to the next. Arguably, “expert level” is actually less open interpretation haha, but as you (and others) point out, what constitutes “expert”, is somewhat relative; I think many “legacy simmers” felt a little bit let down by the depth of the ATR, given the marketing, but for the “average” MSFS user, the ATR certainly represents a significant step up in complexity. That’s rather what I alluded to in my video; for the more casual simmers amongst us, or simmers at an “intermediate” level, the ATR is a great option, for those who prefer the Fenix A320, or the PMDG 737, the ATR probably isn’t quite going to “scratch that itch” ; ) Either way, I’m really glad you’re enjoying the aircraft and it’s great to see that an update has been put out already : ) Cheers!

As someone who has been very critical of this plane - yes, exactly. This plane's definitely worth the 20€ asking price (assuming they'll fix the airway freeze - considering the sim's loading time, that is a pretty big annoyance), but marketing it as "expert level" shows that MS/Asobo have a weird definition of "expert".

@@Taschenschieber People do not realize that the terms "study level" is just a marketing thing used by devs to make their products sound more appealing with a lot of these lacking in many way the closest available right now in MSFS would be the Fenix 320 and PMDG 737's because of their extensive failures simulations and abnormal procedures. At the end of the day not many people use MSFS to do emergency procedures not to mention that you can only really practice the checklist and not the CRM aspect in a home sim and the latter being an essential part of EP's , Aircraft that allow you to follow FCOM for normal procedures only are not an "inferior" product in any way ..... the Asobo/ini A310 FBW 320 or the CRJ for that matter are all nice to fly following normal procedures.

@@SoldierXXL Yeah but that's the thing, the ATR isn't simulating normal ops correctly at this stage, particularly with the flight model. I agree about failures being an acquired taste, but failure simulation is not at all my definition of study level.

@@themighty222 Followed FCOM and completed 28 flights in it so far without ever encountering normal ops discrepancies just the known bugs (some of the instruments/buttons freezing not responding) bugs are not a problem with the aircraft itself though and to be expected with any initial release of software. I have not pushed the flight model nor have I ever flown a real ATR so I don't have anything I can judge it against other than other similar aircraft in sims which they are not many. Are you a real ATR pilot how do you properly judge the flight model of an aircraft in MSFS ? Flight models in MSFS are still a huge moot point with both the PMDG 737's and Fenix having incorrect engine perf and fuel burn and inherent issues with MSFS turboprop and rotor physics. For me the ATR is on par with the INI/Asobo A310 as a day to day ops simulation and the A310 was probably more broken on release as it killed fps and had autopilot issues and physics problems.

Thanks very much TM222, I’m glad you felt that the review broadly hit that nail on the head. I very much agree with your points; Asobo shot themselves in the foot a bit with the marketing. Had this just been another “Local Legend” (and it could have been with the NZ update), we’d all be ranting and raving about what a steal the addon is for $10/20 haha. The bugs are unfortunate, but par for the course these days and it looks as though (with the recent update) most of the ATR’s issues will get fixed up. I’m very much in the same boat, in as much as I’m sad that the Asobo ATR may have killed off the Blackbird version of the aircraft (which no doubt would have been superior). I think there is enough of a gulf between the two products, that Blackbird might consider picking up their ATR again, but it would be a pretty gutsy move, given that the ATR market is now saturated. Thanks very much once again and all the best! : )

Cheers, Philip! All the best : )

I hope you enjoyed your trip, L CC! Happy flying and all the best : )

I think that’s a fair summary, TGDL. Asobo perhaps got a little bit carried away with the “expert level” moniker, but the ATR is good fun and a solid offering given the price. There’s still some work to be done for sure, but it’s great to see that the product has already had its first update. Cheers and all the best! : )

You can adjust brilliance via the buttons below and they will stay as you once changed them to your liking.

You go make it then you sook

@@metzgergva you have made these comments as a reply, not on the video

@@metzgergva Not that failures on a turboprop would work in MSFS as their turboprop physics re still very much WIP !

@@blindsight_music_ Thanks for the hint. Will copy them onto higher level

Hello again Ezio, I certainly apologise / sympathise but unfortunately, as I mentioned previously, it’s really tricky to slow down one’s natural rhythm haha. Of course, I want everyone to be able to enjoy the content; perhaps I’ll put out a poll and see if the general consensus aligns with your viewpoint (and then move from there). As you can probably tell, I’m far from a natural orator, so making these sorts of changes is harder (for me) than it may sound. It’s not something I’ve been doing intentionally but once again, I thank you for your feedback and will endeavour to continue improving the content. Cheers and all the best! : )

@@IntotheBlueSimulations I'll be following your videos anyway because they are the best and I accept the challenge. I realized that at 82 everything slow down, then is not your fault, but my limit 😁👍

Indeed, Michael; the ATR does seem a little lacklustre in terms of its takeoff performance - a few others have made the same comment. Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated! All the best : )

Hello, can you recommend me some other aircraft apart from DC-6 which i already own? I've read that Constellation isn't particularly well made - what's your opinion?

I do think that if Asobo hadn't marketed it as "expert series", it wouldn't have received anywhere near as much criticism as it has.

@@chakraUK Flight Sim community in a nutshell. I mean, who's actually expecting to get a 'study level' aircraft for £10?

@@craigstephens93 Playing devil's advocate - we did get two (the A310 and Beaver) for free in the 40th anniversary update...

@@chakraUK I didn't realise the community had accepted the A310 as an advanced aircraft. I accept your point though.

Havent read all about this. Are there many smaller or som huge bugs as well?

@@rymdskrotet On Series X console the FMS does not work and half the switches lack any functionality. It LOOKS amazing in 4K with it's textures and it flies nicely and sounds are great. Just don't think you'll be following a Magenta line anywhere right now. It needs a lot of updating.

I hope so Jeremy. It looks like the intent is there to do so, with the first update having already been released. I would love a quality regional turboprop for the sim and I feel the ATR is halfway there at the moment. No doubt the Majestic Dash 8 will be superb (going off what I have heard regarding the P3D version) and I hope we may yet still see the MILVIZ ATR also. Cheers, all the best! : )

Hi Steve, I did do that (ahead of the recording), it just would have been nice to be able to do it via the EFB also : ) Cheers and all the best!

There certainly are Reza, but that’s hardly surprising, given that I had to learn the entire operation of the aircraft, without the aid of a manual haha XD Neglecting to turn the ignition off after the start, was something I noticed when watching the video back and that was rather annoying to see ha. The other points you mention, I had no clue about, but I’ll try and remember them for the future (the prop brake seemed to work regardless, so presumably the systems modelling was a little bit “bugged” there also). Cheers for the info. All the best : )

I managed to figure it out.. ND OVLY tab on the MFD.. :)

I’m glad you managed to get things figured out, Edbern. Happy flying and all the best! : )

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks and same to you as well.

Haha! Certainty feeling quite a lot better now, thanks Darojax! Very much appreciated : ) All the best!

I think the sounds could be better in general, Abstract. The initial change in sound is actually quite nice when activating reverse, but the noise dies off far too quickly thereafter. I’ve only flown on an ATR a couple of times and whilst I don’t recall the engine sounds all that well (I’ve never been much good with anything audio related), I do recall being amazed at just how quickly we came to a stop on the (very short) runway haha! Cheers, all the best : )

There is a series of Asobo's tutorial on this plane, all combined under an hour. With them you will be able to start it nicely in mere 5 minutes.

@@maczetamaczeta189 Thanks, mate. Will see what I can do. Silly question now: where please can I get the Asobo tutorials? Here on KZfaq?

@@kokoeteantigha389 Yes, on Microsoft Flight Sim youtube channel under ATR Discovery Series.

Haha, well I hope you had a bit more luck getting the ATR started then, Kokoete ; ) Just in case you weren’t able to find it, I actually left a link to the Asobo ATR tutorial series, down in the video description. Happy flying and all the best! : )

That’s a fair point Ed and an angle that I hadn’t really considered. For the “average” MSFS user, the ATR is probably a very advanced offering and it’s probably largely the “legacy simmers”, who got put out of joint by the “expert” labelling. As you say though, the ATR simply isn’t comparable with the the Fenix, PMDG and Leonardo offerings, so I think “expert level” is still a touch generous. “Intermediate level” really sums up the ATR for me, but granted that doesn’t sound very catchy from a marketing perspective XD Cheers and all the best! : )

Haha! Well there you go , Jay - I figured that might be the case XD Thanks for sharing! All the best : )

Affirm, sir. Or at least, the addon used to - I don’t know what’s been done with the subsequent updates. The roll tendency wasn’t completely egregious but, certainly more significant than I would imagine is true to life of the real-world airframe. I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best! : )

Haha, I think that’s an affliction many of us can sympathise with, Mike ; ) I do hope you’re enjoying the ATR then! Happy flying and all the best : )

Hello Richard, It seems quite a few people have been having issues with throttles and condition levers (I think there are some bugs). The operation of the throttles should be pretty straightforward; one basically places the throttles in the “notch” detent from takeoff, all the way through to top of descent and then manually adjusts the throttles to maintain the speed thereafter (depending on the autopilot mode in use). Has the recent update fixed your problem? Cheers, all the best! : )

Haha, glad you’re enjoying the ATR, Ethan! Happy flying and all the best : )

@@IntotheBlueSimulations I'm just thankfull we finally have a fully functional modeled Turboprop to use for Regional flights ✈️

Quick question what does one type into the FMS on ATR if spawning in flight I usually type ZZZZ/DESTINATION into the Airbus but the ATR says "not in database"

Hi Mr E, I’m not 100% sure how one would program the MCDU under those circumstances (not having tried an air start myself) but at a guess, rather than putting ZZZZ in the departure field, enter a real-world ICAO code - the arrival code should suffice (eg EGLL/EGLL). I hope that helps! All the best : )

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks again!

Hello João, I’m afraid I can’t offer up much help on that one. I haven’t really investigated / tested different sensitivity settings within MSFS. By default, the sim is indeed too sensitive on the controls, but I think there are some fundamental areas of the flight modelling that need fixing up, in order to address that. Another reason that I haven’t really played around with the sensitivity settings, is that given the number of reviews I do, I think it’s easier / fairer to keep the sim’s default settings and then I’m assessing each addon from a level playing field. All of the above being said, I do use a -50 curve on my rudder haha, as rudder inputs are currently just waaaay too sensitive in MSFS. Sorry I can’t be of more help on that one. All the best! : )

Hello AB, I’ve no doubt that I will at some point (in fact, I already have another NZ flight pre-recorded). I try to spread my flights around a little geographically, so that there’s something for everyone, but NZ is one of my personal favourite stomping grounds, so you can expect to see a return on the channel for sure ; ) Thanks very much for the suggestion and all the best! : )

I think that’s a fair assessment Scott. The ATR is not “bad” by any means, but there is certainly still some bugs that need fixing up and work to be done generally. Being an “Asobo” aircraft, I do hope the ATR receives the required updates / fixes (most of these addons seems to get one update and then everything goes quiet). Cheers, all the best! : )

It’s a fair point Michael, in that what one considers to be “expert”, is all relative. I still think some sort of “intermediate” labelling would have been closer to the mark (default aircraft are the “base level”, at the end of the day), but that doesn’t sound very catchy of course haha. I haven’t tried the Simbrief downloader myself, as programming the MCDU is one of the aspects that I enjoy, but it sounds like it could be a good option for many. Cheers and all the best! : )

I’m afraid there is no such option, so far as I am aware, HF. Sorry to hear that the reflections don’t agree with you. You could perhaps try getting in touch with the dev and seeing whether he might consider adding the option to remove the effect. All the best! : )

Hi Jeremy, I pretty much joined my first airline, right after competing my licence. I know that might sound a bit strange in many countries (like the US), but it’s somewhat the “norm” in Europe (where there isn’t really much GA and regional carriers are not hugely extensive either). I did a bunch of different flying and got my PPL when I was fairly young and then eventually went on to do my licence and found myself on the Airbus after flight school : ) I hope that satisfies your curiosity ; ) Cheers, all the best!

Not yet, but now that the ATR is released Hans is back to wrenching on the CRJ.

Hi David, No, the CRJ still has most of its original issues, unfortunately. From what Joe is saying, it sounds like that might change at some point in the future though (fingers crossed). Cheers, all the best!

That’s good to know, Joe! Although I do hope Hans keeps plugging away at the ATR also ; )

Thanks very much Tickle! I certainly try my best to display any product in an entertaining and positive light, whilst including any blemishes I find along the way haha (some addons hold up better to that approach than others ha). I would imagine, trying to use such an aircraft on the console can be a bit tricky at the best of times. I know some PC users were also very miffed about the lack of keybinds. I’m surprised re the interactive checklists, as I think the aircraft had them on the PC (unless my memory is completely failing me). I think the lack of documentation is a little bit unforgivable and it’s annoying that we’re seeing this trend continue (all the more so, when the addon is this complex). A manual should be considered an important part of any addon, not merely an “optional extra”. Still, it’s great to see that the first update is already out. I too am wondering what sort of updates we’ll see going forwards. . . Cheers once again and all the best! : )

I think there’s a couple of reasons Andy; 1) Unlike with FSX, it’s now very easy these days, for devs to update products after the fact (with almost everyone having a decent internet connection. 2) Most “Asobo” aircraft are released to tie-in with a specific sim update and therefore have a specific deadline for release. I think this tends to lead towards products being rushed out. 3) I think it’s also just a case of “because they can”. Putting a product on sale before completion, seems to have become industry standard with most forms of software, unfortunately. People seem to be willing to buy a product, regardless of whether or not it has been finished. Devs are aware of this and obviously the practice means they can get the money rolling in sooner rather than later. Personally, I’m generally not a fan of this “early access” model, but I’m pretty sure it’s here to stay. The ATR has received a couple of significant updates at this point though and given the price, I think the addon is in a fairly decent place now (though there is still work to be done). Cheers, all the best! : )

Hi Takis, I’m afraid, I can’t really go over everything in a single KZfaq comment but, there’s no auto throttle in the ATR so, thrust / speed are always controlled manually. For VNAV and VS, the aircraft will fly the programmed / selected profile and it’s up to you to adjust the throttles, in order to maintain your desired speed. For IAS hold, the aircraft will instead hold the selected speed and you can then adjust the power levers, in order to adjust your rate of descent. I hope that helps a little? All the best : )

@@IntotheBlueSimulations it helped a lot and thank you so much! I was confused exactly with that if it has auto throttle now I understood because I was always overspeeding the aircraft so thank you once again!!

Ah great, I’m glad it helped! You’re most welcome. Cheers : )

Hi Mr Bu, I may look at the Osprey at some point, but it’s not high on my list at the moment I’m afraid. The Osprey does look excellent though and I’m sure it’s great fun. As and when I’m a bit less busy, I will perhaps take a look. Thanks for the suggestion! All the best : )

I wouldn’t say so, rymd. The ATR is broadly as complex in terms of the systems / autopilot and perhaps even a little bit more complicate to operate in some respects. It might seem logical that a turboprop should be easier to fly than a heavier jet, but often that isn’t the case and I wouldn’t say that it is with the ATR at any rate. I hope that helps. All the best : )

Apologies for the very slow response, Jordan. Are you on the console by any chance (it seems most people having CL issues, are on the Xbox)? Hopefully the recent update has fixed your issue? Cheers, all the best : )

@@IntotheBlueSimulations thanks mate. on pc actually but managed to fix it just by reinstalling the add on 🤷‍♂️ so no idea what that was about

You’re welcome, Jordan! Haha, well I’m you managed to get things sorted : )