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Since you seem to do a lot of your reviews in the same area it would be cool to get a quick "time trial" run of each bike. Just so that we can get a ballpark estimation of how each one performs.

Seems like a fun bike... but the price definitely holds us back... i mean, 4 grand for a surron and in my country, austria, almost 14 grand for the cake. It doesn't heal cancer hahaha so 14k is tooo much. But nice video, keep the good work up 🤝👍

3:35 says it all. Ride-ability out of the box is key.

I rode this and the Ösa last week but on the street, it was a blast, the Ösa too, so low down with weight and big tires made it quite fun. The Calk rode great on the street, coming from a dr650 I didn't notice any oddities with the geometry or weight, haven't ridden a small dirt bike though, so to me it felt pretty natural, the DR carries it's weight high as well. I was very impressed with the suspension and breaks, again all on the street, but it was pretty fun hitting 65 in a 25 wail having people in the neighborhood smile and wave nicely to you, it's amazing how noise changes people's attitudes. To me it's between the cake and a surron, its just a matter of if you want to put all the time and energy into a surron to make it as good as the cake is stock, they have a digital readout on most of the bikes now, the ones I tried had a speedo and volt readout, all that good stuff. The DR650 is to me like the surron, it's not really that great untill you dump 4-6 grand into it, great shell, but needs work. The cake seems just great out of the box, without dumping 5 grand and hours of research into how to make it better or faster. But again the surron is compelling because of that aftermarket community that can make a product better over time, it's like the only open source ebike right now, that to me is awesome.

Thanks for uploading your point of view videos - keep up the great work! 👍🏾😎

I'm really looking forward to your full review of the Drill One and how the Cake Calk compares to that bike. I think these two bikes are more similar in comparison than with a Sur-Ron.

good feedback thanks man!

I do like your videos as I am interested in the progression of the Ebikes. A couple of thoughts on your videos. I appreciate riding the different bikes on the same trail for comparison. They look like really fun flowing trails. 1 - Would you be able to incorporate some slow technical "rock crawling" type terrain to convey throttle control/ergos/handling (such as high cg, fork rake, seat width, etc). 2 - At the end as you are discussing the bikes components, would you show them instead of the steady shot of your helmet. I understand the need to advertise 6D helmets (I wear a 6D also) and FXR gear, but the bikes are the star of the show. Overall, very good videos. Keep them coming!

Loving the review on this one! Can you shave the foam on the seat? How about sliding the triple clamps down on the fork tubes a millimeter or two?

Man I love watching your videos but I would die at least 3 times riding that track, lol.

That bike is sick it really looks like a blast but I know that it has to cost a lot. But I would love to have one.

love that you can change the brakes on the fly...

You should definitely review Pohl Bock e bock

Love the forks and the hub set for this bike. I’ve built a few 21& 19 wheels for owners of these so I’ve got to work with those awesome straight pull spoke hubs! Bitchin

Do you think that would be a viable fork for a Sur Ron? Curious what it weighs compared to what's getting swapped on to Sur Ron's.

Were you able to determine the actual run time for battery capacity? I'm curious since most specs quote "miles". I am interested in actual "Run Time". Thanks! and great video. I'm considering getting one of these bikes.

Great content, just subscribed 👍🏾

Please, do the Kalk ink review

How does this compare to Electric Motion Epure race?

You can always tape that wire to the side!! Or wrap, so how is the suspension and Seat feel!?

Thanks for the review. Man this is a nice looking dirt ebike. The price is 11k sounds like a great bike other then it not have a lot of dash information. I would like something with a nice dash for 11k.

Now that you have ridden both the stealth b-52 and the kalk, I would love to hear your comparison.

That design is a design all right.

Great video and commentary. How would you compare the Cake to the KTM freeride?

It looks like it should be on a wall in my living room, not being ridden! Great looking art piece. For the masses, I think the price needs to come down. I have personally just ordered a Sur-ron because the price is right.

U think it looks good ? Looks like IKEA made it . Hahaha

My son and I just did a 2 hour off road test ride on this bike. I was thoroughly impressed. He rides a YZ250FX and crosstrains on a mountain bike. I've got a KTM 350, 500 and 690. We were excited by the suspension, speed and "flickability" of this bike. It is definitely in a niche by itself. I don't think its fair to compare it to anything other than another e-motorcycle with similar weight and suspension. I wanted it as soon as I got off it. Admittedly, the price is tough to swallow. However, as the owner of a VW e-Golf, I will say how much I am thrilled by the lack of maintenance or upkeep costs. That vehicle costs nothing more than tires. I expect the same of this. This is the future of riding. Its a steep price tag now but with no maintenance, is almost justifiable. ;) I appreciate the review. I found it thorough and accurate. Riding it made me want to save up and buy one. I would have no problem riding this for 30-40 miles alongside my buddies on dirtbikes. Just my $.02.

would really like to see a test of the kuberg freerider 14kW from you :-)

Great vid again bud👊I think I'm in agreement with the majority that it is indeed bloody ugly 😬 Without riding one myself you can tell that it looks like it rides similar to a trial bikes body position ish.Big big fan of the super high quality custom built suspension and a low volt high power motor and battery drive system.Again though the cost of these machines is outside most people's spare cash bit of fun fund lol.Still think buying a rolling Moto bike chassis and adding a qs138 90 drive system is still the way to go and my next build project.That way you get the suspension and overall experience of a proper Mx bike with the exception of noise, most maintenance and huge amounts of torque 🤤 The next bike you need to get is the one and only TORP😍 now that is in my eyes gorgeous looking hybrid MTB/Mx bike👌👍

So this is gonna be long... I did a test ride on the Kalk a few days ago on a 1 mile single track loop. First of all major props to Cake for having these demo days. It really speaks to the confidence the company has in it's products. I rode both the version in the video "OR" and the " OR Race" version. The difference in for the most part the wheels and tires. The "OR" has propriety trials type tires and rims that are similar to a fat bike. The " OR Race" version has 19' front and 18' rear wheels and MX tires. The build quality of this bike is impressive. Much more on the line of a Honda or KTM than a Talaria or Surron. The bike has great power. 6kw nominal and 11kw peak and the throttle response is very linear and predictable. The brakes are Formula motorcycle brakes and will outperform ANY MTB setup. Ohlins suspension front and rear that when you turn the clickers they actually do something unlike DNM/Fast ace/KKE. I first ran it at level 1 power and level 1 regen which is no regen. Before I finished the first lap I switched to level 2 power and level 2 regen. Power level 2 felt very comfortable even on rock hard braking bumps and 1/2 buried rocks and regen was light. I switched to regen level 3 which I didn't think that was equivalent to a 4 stroke. Its more like engine braking between a 4 stroke and 2 stroke. The OR versions tires are not suited to hard core off-road riding. The bike wants to wash out and knife on every turn and didn't feel comfortable. The rep set the tire pressure at 19 front and back so that didn't help that. The seat is KTM hard but is so long that there is plenty of room to move around on. I then took out the Race and instantly the MX tires felt wayyyy better. I had so much more trust in the front end in turns, braking and in the mini jumps. The bike got good drive out of the turns unlike the standard OR wich slid out every time I tried to drive out of a turn. The Race version is defiantly the choice for off road with out a doubt. I set the bike to power level 3 and regen level 3. Power wise I guess it would be close to 125 level but instant torque and less top end. The brakes are set up moto style and there is an optional foot brake for the rear. The ergos of the bike are weird. The foot to seat height are long and the seat to bar length is short so the body position is an aggressive lean all the time putting weight over the front. It's too aggressive and leads to arm pump quickly. a 21" front wheel and higher bend bars could help it feel more normal. Unless you have a machine shop moving the pegs would be a major pain in the butt. The rear of the bike would slide all over because all of the weight is on the front end. The battery is above the motor putting a lot of weight up high which does not help turning stability. The dash design is really minimal with only 2 knobs and 5 or 6 lights so there is no way to tell detailed information. This may be available on the phone app but I did not have the opportunity to use it. For the price point you could build a Surron or Talaria into something close (or possibly better) performance wise but not with the build quality, or the suspension quality. For about the same money you could get a Electric Motion Escape R with a clutch. For a thousand or two more could get the Stark Varg which is in a different league. Overall bike is what I would call a "lifestyle" bike that would be good for a street/mild dirt combo that has a very unique look and vibe. Kinda like Ikea meets Apple. Either you totally dig it and are invested or your holding it wrong.. Cudos for Cake for making such a unique bike and its really cool to see so many choices in the ebike/emoto world.

Nice review, do you have an update?

I'm surprised you haven't made a video on LMX yet!!

Really dig your reviews 👌 One question; does it sound like theirs reverb effect when your talking and riding sometimes? Or am I tripping out...? Watched on headphones.

I really like these just wish they where a little cheaper they are beautiful bike though

whats the closest electric dirt bike comparable to a cr125 two stroke

Very nice. Clean looking. However for MX, offroad, dual sport I think that a donor bike and electric conversion is still best route (long term safety). Be it Sur Ron or other ... "electric dual sports/super moto" is scary at high speeds as they are mtb bikes with rocket attached. Converting say a Suzuki DR400SM to electric is very intriguing; you get a platform that is heavier but robust (e.g. Adventure Electric Build). If someone at Luna Cycle or Teznic would take my donor I would love to convert :)

The looks are a important feature. It’s non threatening. It doesn’t look like a dirt bike. You can take it places you’d never never get away with on a more traditional looking machine.

Good review as always. That thing looks so odd it is good to see that it rides the way it looks. For the price it would have be much better and not worse riding than the others available. Have seen a video of kids wheeling this thing forever so it might be better for fooling around on than riding fast offroad but then only for rich kids. I think the Ultra Bee that was not released at the time of this video might be the new standard for electric trail riding. Wonder if the newest version they call the Bukk has addressed any of the issues though it looks about the same .

Cake bike vs B52 comparison would be handy Also would love to see vid on the evolution rhino e bike vs the b52 the rhino bike looks sick AF

I got a dumb question is it waterproof it shoud be

Easy to assemble, great bike for the price.

Can you review the less expensive Ink model?

What about Delfast TOP 3.0?

Is it better than the Drill?

FINALLY

So it’s killing me.....it seems like the most similar bikes are the cake OR race and the EM Escape R on paper(specs) and size except the clutch of course. Can you give me any feedback on what you’d go for between the 2? I’m be chasing my little ones and doing the occasional burn down the powerline trail. Maybe playing in the backyard too. I understand the uses for both but I guess what I’m wondering is....does the EM fill the shoes that the Cake does and then some or does the Cake stand on its own ground still? Thanks!! Hard to get any comparisons cause most haven’t ridden any of these. I’ve ridden a surron/CAKE/Alta. Love the alta but I think its too much bike for what I’m doing as well as the KTM. Was going to buy the Cake until I saw your EM review....I honestly had never even heard of them. Thanks! We love the channel.

They need a 4 stroke 250 and 450 engine brake mode

Hi, where was this filmed, if I may ask?

Ok is expensive but no surron is like out of the box anymore after a while so if you count all the mods that people do.... this one is already powerful, has good suspension etc.

Wrap it around Jack to clean up the slack.

Does the engine brake regenerate the battery?

👍....enuf said!

When are these guys going to put a decent set of tyres for your eight grand electric bike

The best

Nice

So it costs more than the KTM Freeride EX-C? No contest. It does seem like a cool bike. Considering it has better suspension I'd assume they're roughly the same price wise after you get the KTM dialed. Regardless I'd still prefer a Freeride...

Question: would the 4 stroke breaking be a good thing on a steep and difficult down hill track?

I'm 6' 2" and my Kalk& felt odd as you said. With my feet in the right place I felt leaned forward too much and found myself with a deathtrap on the bars. I made 1" tall risers that also moved the bars back 2". Much improved relaxed grip and no arm pressure. The foot peg to seat height for my 33" inseam is nearly perfect and the pads are very solid and stable. As a trail ride / motocross your off the seat most times, the footing is excellent. I bought it for commuting, seat is a bit firm and I have some ideas to improve it. Yes it has a unique look, I am a big fan of function over form. I bought it for the quality components, suspension alone is top notch. Yes you can buy a less expensive bike but over time when you have replaced parts due to breakage or improvement, what have you invested? I expect many trouble free miles, 110 so far and not even a loose spoke.

dream bike but just got a surron instead

Cool bike! I saw this machine first on Sam Pilgrim's channel. Didn't know electric dirt bikes existed at all before that :) I actually like the looks of the Sur Ron better

What is the off-road range on a sur Ron like? Distance or time riding

A little tooo chunky looking for me but I appreciate the austerity of it all. Price is a bummer

Height? Fitment?

I tried one here in California at one of their demo days. It struggled to go from a dead stop up a steep hill. It was fun to ride in the flat spots but totally impractical IMO. KTM still has the best bike of the electrics for now.

What is range

You gotta test the vector vortex... bigger stonger faster... big range claims too.

How do you know how fast you are going? as far as speed as the example shows on Surron

anyone else want to just keep calling it the "cake walk"

For the price, would pick the Cake over the KTM freeride?

it's a fridge with wheels

YOU LOVE TO RIDE SAHARA BIKES @

The specs and power are solid. But man the price is to steep and I cant stop thinking how ugly it is. Having experience with these 4 bikes The drill one def better choice if not interested in surron or talaria. But will be hard to match the price. Many are going to find that surron and talaria need upgrades for more experienced riders but the drill one is very powerfull and strong. Just my opinion.

Bruce Wayne voice does it come in Black ?

Would love if this thing didn't cost the amount of a car! Would love to have one, but spending a car's worth of money on a bike isn't in my spending budget sadly.

These bikes look great. Could never justify them over the competition though. The specs are too low all the way around to justify the price.

How much?

Astronomical in price and chessy performance especially when the world is ending I get it...

If noah didn't build that ark .... he would of built this bike

Acceleration ? maximum speed ? and range at certain speed ? Three magic question to any ebike developers.

To steal Geico's line... 15 minutes with a 3D printer could improve looks 15%. The frame looks like 2x4s. 2 words... side panels. The back of the seat might get a subframe too.

Seems like you're riding pretty hard, but you don't sound exhausted. Like if the bike isn't making you fight it at all. If it wasn't for the price I'd be all over getting one. Maybe one day. The price of the segway dirt bike is just so much more affordable. It's almost half the cost, but maybe this is worth it. Maybe I'll just save some money a bit longer. Definitely don't think I'd ever buy a used electric bike or car.

sounds like Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet 👍🏼

Please test a ubco frx1

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14k vs a sur ron? Ayeee

Why is there an echo sometimes?

23k in Australia forget it what are they thinking

Snow White’s bike!

I hope it rides a lot better thna it looks because it looks awful

Keren by las wates

I hope I rides much better than it looks!

That thing is beautiful

That bike looks like it was built in the backyard by someone who doesn't own a welder.

Thanks for your videos. One thing though.... more shots of the bike and less of your face, as nice as it is, please. 👍👍👍

To buy this in Australia it costs $24 000 😮

$25,350?

The line have to around your arm

Worst geometry I've ever seen that swing arm and rake is just... horrific and they stuck Ohlin's suspension on it but left out a foot brake so you get to relearn using your hand for front and rear and they are pricing it at 14k when I can get a Yamaha yz450f for 12k? Yeah they are out of their mind roughly $1000 per hp. Best of luck to the Cake Cock machine or whatever it is called, but they don't make drugs good enough here in the USA to get me to buy one.

I have written an article about actual ownership of a Kalk& for WebBikeWorld. www.webbikeworld.com/cake-kalk-electric-motorcycle-review/#gallery