I hate to say it, but I watched the whole video and it was really good. Lovely stuff benchmarcus
@Gamingtechgg3 жыл бұрын
@Boba Fatt he got slow ram :D samsung b die baby
@awex73 жыл бұрын
haha my man
@vanitykillsfr3 жыл бұрын
Damn Marcus getting some clout
@PcCentric3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tommy Tech! 😅
@quickfoxx99153 жыл бұрын
@@PcCentric Hi! :)
@bafon3 жыл бұрын
Pc-Enthusiasts be like: "EEEWWW ketchup and mustard cables....." Also Pc-Enthusiasts: "Ooooh sleeved ketchup and mustard cables, NOICE".
@nervosadustbolt96423 ай бұрын
Don't piss on my leg and tell me that it's raining, dawg.
@PoserGalore3 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely a serious video when centric pulls out a notebook for notes 📝
@Nxrreshh_3 жыл бұрын
🤣💯
@dannygunns78313 жыл бұрын
Should have shown 1% lows because thats where the biggest difference most likely will be in cpu bound scenarios
@dontfollowme4057 Жыл бұрын
Average FPS is all that really matters.
@kalumander Жыл бұрын
@@dontfollowme4057 It's actually the very opposite.
@lennywhere9 ай бұрын
@@dontfollowme4057 this is so wrong, it's crazy
@monyon40026 ай бұрын
@@kalumander so would faster have way better 1 percent lows?
@nocturneuh3 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@jayeshajitsaria35333 жыл бұрын
you didn't mention anything about the CL timings they play equally important role and this video shouldn't have been made without mentioning them
@Gamingtechgg3 жыл бұрын
true
@bafon3 жыл бұрын
If he included different CL timings, say CL14 to CL20, and at all the different speeds to see the impact, it would be fairly "scientific" but only with results regarding the Intel chip. Would be much much better if he had a range of cpu's from both Intel and AMD, a huge bonus would be to see a higher end ddr3 platform in the comparsion as well :) Could 1800Mhz CL9 compete with 3200Mhz CL20 Rgb gamer ram? Ddr3 triplechannel vs ddr4 dualchannel?
@Demon09-_-2 жыл бұрын
@@bafon the hard part would be finding a cpu that has enough cores and still has a good single core performance that was on ddr3 but it would be cool to see some ddr3 vs ddr4 shoot outs
@philosopherkurdmuffins98352 жыл бұрын
What are CL timings?
@TunaDad2 жыл бұрын
@@philosopherkurdmuffins9835 CAS latency. The Higher the speed of the RAM, the higher the latency (slower), unless you pay more for B-die (look that up on yt) which can have high clock speed and low CL timings.
@craggyrock703 жыл бұрын
Like others, would love to see how timings effect ram, so 3600c16 vs 3600c18, as well as 3200c16 vs 3600c18, as prices for these vary
@Sablespartan2 жыл бұрын
Same. Kinda hard to find content highlighting the latency as well
@jakobe_bryantgaming55802 жыл бұрын
I would say in all cases, latency is important (mainly affected by primaries and secondaries), bandwidth is subjective based on the workload, if there's enough bandwidth per second, its not an issue (affected by secondaries and tertiaries).
@imperia6368 Жыл бұрын
8GB 3200 mhz Or 32Gb 1600mhz Which is better for gaming ?
@craggyrock70 Жыл бұрын
@@imperia6368 8gb 3200 single stick? You'll want 2 sticks at least...ram is cheap.. you can get 2x8gb 3200 for £45. But 3200 will wipe floor against 1600, but 8gb by itself not enough really
@imperia6368 Жыл бұрын
@@craggyrock70 I have a ram in my mother board(2*4 8gb)which 3200mhz i brought a ram which is the same data rate but when it got home imisread it while purchasing the new one was 3200 Mt/s not 3200 mhz Now am stuck should I buy 16* 2 gb 1600 mhz ram
@CurvedSlightly Жыл бұрын
PS. You've got the AIO in the wrong place, basic thermodynamics, lad.
@aschoolpencil64133 жыл бұрын
I literally went a year with my 3000mhz ram running at 2133mhz not knowing until my frame stuttering got so bad. I checked bios and I found that out. Changed it and will never look bad and What a difference
@PcCentric3 жыл бұрын
Ouch, its so easy to do
@theotunfisk57573 жыл бұрын
And he answers to you
@aschoolpencil64133 жыл бұрын
@@PcCentric yup lol, just never checked until I got fed up with my game stuttering and finally checked 😆
@lordbrhoom80353 жыл бұрын
2:40 "You Should Definitely Be AWARE " Proceeds to drop RAM on the keyboard menacingly.
@masterpainter78 Жыл бұрын
The amount of gain matters. IF you go from 1333 to 1866, its easy to show a double digit FPS increase. When you go from 3200 to 3600 you are looking at 1-3 FPS increase. Also giving the PC enough gigs of RAM can have similar and even better gains, bear in mind that gigs of RAM usage scales with most applications and window's and chrome eats loads of RAM and in fact on 32 gigs and below window's off loads a whole lot of gigs worth to your pagefile for your SSD! So having 64 gigs of RAM means almost no pagefile usage and free's up how the PC uses resources when gaming.
@Uchihagaara93 жыл бұрын
These jokes are killing me, my wife is starting to wonder why I'm laughing at my computer all the time!
@TapiTalk3 жыл бұрын
Great vid and timing! I'm currently still waiting on my ram, I've got every other component. I just want to start the build haha. Thanks for all these videos, they have been super helpful for me.
@blastedgaming165 ай бұрын
Start the build and add ram later
@lucadumbrell2 жыл бұрын
i had 2400 speed ram with my ryzen 5 3600 and everything ran like crap and it loved to crash, i upgraded it to 3200 speed and it made the world of a difference.
@22o210 ай бұрын
what gpu?
@lucadumbrell10 ай бұрын
I had a gtx 1050ti ar the time, I then got a 3060 with the same ram and it was fine, I now have 64gb of 3200 speed and its still fine
@22o210 ай бұрын
i recently upgraded my gpu from 1050 ti to 2060 super and im running on 2400mhz 16gb ram. do you think 3200mhz 16gb would make a difference. or should i get 32gb?
@mongoosemcmongoose27863 жыл бұрын
Def agree in the CL timings from other comments What I've seen from other sources seems to day that 3200 at CL16 is basically the equiv of 3600 CL18 so just go with whichever is better priced for example a corsair vengeance pro RGB CL16 @ 3200 MHZ for 2x8 (16gb) is $88 and a CL18 @ 3600 MHZ is $105 so you're paying basically 20% more for the same speed
@jakobe_bryantgaming55802 жыл бұрын
This is just plainly, not true. While they have the same latency, 3600 has more bandwidth per second. Think of ram as short term "memory" for a brain. The faster you can remember it, the more you can put each cycle (Hz) of the brain to use. It doesn't just come down to latency. You wouldn't choose 2600 cl13 over 3200 cl16.
@mongoosemcmongoose27862 жыл бұрын
@@jakobe_bryantgaming5580 no. they are essentially the same in performance my guy. keep trying.
@imperia6368 Жыл бұрын
8GB 3200 mhz Or 32Gb 1600mhz Which is better for gaming ?
@mongoosemcmongoose2786 Жыл бұрын
@@imperia6368 neither
@Manakuski3 жыл бұрын
Yes, ram speed definetally affects framerates in games. It also depends what cpu/motherboard/gpu you have. If you aren't GPU-bottlenecked, faster ram definetally helps, it just depends on the game. For example in Call of Duty Warzone you really do need the fastest and lowest latency ram you possibly can get. Fast Samsung B-die espeically when tuned to low latency and high bandwidth can increase your framerates by up to 20-50fps with an overclocked CPU as long as you are not limited by your graphics card.
@Nobody0006111 ай бұрын
Well, as far of the video the higher the resolution the less it matters. I play 2k so I guess shouldn't be concern about ram speed that much. It is not worth the hazel
@AfshinBarani Жыл бұрын
3200 CL14 or 3600 CL16 are the sweet spots. I've tested alot of ram in my PC with a 12900K and after those speeds the difference becomes very negligible. Personally i have a 3200 with 14-14-14-36 timings and it works great.
@threecats82193 жыл бұрын
There's one potential issue with this test, although I do not know how significant. ... When testing the same RAM at different speeds, you have to take into account the CAS, RAS, etc, latency 'timings'. (Like e.g. CL timings.) The timings of the RAM on one particular set of RAM, will increase as the frequency of the RAM increases. That means that the processing of data that the RAM does, takes longer. E.g. the time it takes for the RAM to respond to a signal to work with data, etc. However if you had four sets of RAM with the same timings at your chosen frequencies of RAM. Then you could likely see more increase in performance.
@dontfollowme4057 Жыл бұрын
Ya ram timings have negligible performance impact.
@kindzadza1342 жыл бұрын
RAM speed and configuration are more significant when you are having an iGPU, since they rely 100% on main RAM. I am witnessing this first handedly - my laptop Ryzen5500U is significantly faster with a dual channel 2x8GB 3200Mhz instead of a single stick. If you already have a powerful GPU with enough dedicated GDDR memory and dual channel main RAM the speed does not affect so much the performance.
@randomcomments50343 жыл бұрын
Something that you didn't show in your charts were the 1% lows, Ram speed is important, but also the timings are even MORE important when it comes to frametimings as well. Just some feedback for next time. Really liked the presentation of it all thought. Good job
@electrobuzz.3 жыл бұрын
I got 3600mhz because I have a Ryzen CPU and I am currently using the igpu of the 5600g untill I have a dgpu and ram speed matters a lot more for apus.
@samhintz84793 жыл бұрын
bro i’m in the exact same boat. just waiting till gpu prices drop to be able to get a dedicated gpu.
@jamesm5683 жыл бұрын
3600MHz is perfect for an APU but would try to avoid CL18 if possible.
@electrobuzz.3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesm568 I got some cl16 sticks !
@electrobuzz.3 жыл бұрын
@@norton9216 Uhm gpu and apu prices aren't really linked... Like you can get a 5600g on amd's website pretty much all the time.
@hksiewww3533 жыл бұрын
Should be comparing the same cl timings at different frequency to have a more apples to apples comparisons.
@G-flo2 жыл бұрын
"Make sure you enable the XMP Profile before you start your PC." Me running my first build for 2 years now: wat ._. See this is why there should be a PC building school where they teach this stuff. Glad I know now. Thanks b0ss
@danpugh45293 жыл бұрын
👍🏼 good guidance clearly explained as always!
@jasonswearingin10093 жыл бұрын
Personal experience is that RAM Latency times and cooling effeciency have the greatest impact on RAM performance. Motherboard expandability choice of storage medium and a high quality PSU(that goes about 200 to 250 watts over what your build needs for overclocking headroom) are also big factors that affect your build performance.
@Faith_Soprano3 жыл бұрын
Don't feel bad dude, I never finished Hollow Knight, even though it's probably one of my all-time favorite games. I kept thinking it would be so sad to have finished the game, so I ended up never finishing it. This way, it's like I'll be playing it _forever_ ...
@PcCentric3 жыл бұрын
One day....
@Faith_Soprano3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'll be one of those old people with unfinished business. "There's something I've been wanting to do for so long. So long... And now that I'm 113 and the world is about to end, perhaps, it's time...to finish Hollow Knight."
@phantomasuras3 жыл бұрын
I had the same problem but I force myself to do it because I think the developers wanted to create an experience for and us not finishing them would be a little disrespectful, or at least that's how I see it.
@Faith_Soprano3 жыл бұрын
@@phantomasuras I largely agree with you. That's why I rarely ever abandon a book, even if I don't like it that much. It's worth mentioning though that Hollow Knight specifically has 3 endings. I've done the 'basic' ending, so I have technically finished the game. And then I got to the final boss of the more complete ending, and I just never finished that boss fight. I just kept putting it off and doing other things in the game. And then my GPU died.
@andreimihai1643 жыл бұрын
@@Faith_Soprano sad, what gpu?
@timewizard17192 жыл бұрын
Your such an amazing teacher I’ve learned a lot about most of the components and I don’t even own a computer but have been considering heavily about transferring over from console
@philosopherkurdmuffins98352 жыл бұрын
Oooh! You should, it’s so much fun!
@Sammitch3 жыл бұрын
Ironic sponsorship because most omen prebuilts I have seen come with one sick of ram
@aspiretospidey3 жыл бұрын
And as if by magic the day I decide to research ram this video is made, love the vids benchmarcus😁
@TorinHall3 жыл бұрын
super helpful as usual 👍
@ParachutinLink3 жыл бұрын
no mention of the CAS latency, which is what is holding me back the most with my Ryzen 9 build, great video anyway
@chrispittmanComputing3 жыл бұрын
Memory speed is not as important with Intel. Ryzen speed maters.
@ParachutinLink3 жыл бұрын
@@chrispittmanComputing so? I don't want an Intel build
@smhjxsh69243 жыл бұрын
all your videos are super helpful. this christmas i plan on upgrading my pc with a £1000 budget and your videos give me inspiration xDD
@tacct1kk7153 жыл бұрын
For 1440p and 4k gaming 3200 MHz is litterally the same at 1080p definitely go for 3600 other than that theres no reason to pay more for 3600
@blueninjanoname7338 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for actually answering what i was looking for. Other videos tend to go off
@Ornal643 жыл бұрын
I was overlooking ram on Ryzen 1000, 3000 and 5000 CPUs. Conclusion, get ram kit with max speed supported by your CPU and don't waste time.
@oli.leighton3 жыл бұрын
Just ordered my Meshlicous Itx Build went for the 3200 ram can’t wait to put it together 😆
@PcCentric3 жыл бұрын
Best ITX case 🔥
@WolfIsMySpiritAnimal2 жыл бұрын
You should have explained cl timings and how that can effect performance. A lot of people get confused by it, as I did when I started researching. cl16 3600mhz or cl19 3600mhz makes a big difference.
@maxmustermann5231 Жыл бұрын
So I know it's a pretty easy game but for check CPU and RAM speed you can use Minecraft. It's basically only needs CPU and RAM speed so it would be perfect. With an shader and flying in creative in one direction it should be easy to reach some limits
@levilah34263 жыл бұрын
When he speaks he speaks with his whole body too
@NoLuv4Hoz3 жыл бұрын
I imagine this must be what a British person on meth must look like.
@kay94912 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video I REALLY NEEDED THIS👍👍
@TheUrbandilema3 жыл бұрын
War zone loves also higher ram ...I made the same error with my pc...the ram speed was 2133 and then I activated the xmp I was amazed to see it changed
@SKHYJINX2 жыл бұрын
Gained 40fps when CPU limited Downtown going to 4266C16 manually from 3200C14 Bdie.
@adamq92708 ай бұрын
Great tutorial! Thank you!
@NovaeXelon3 жыл бұрын
First time seeing one of you videos. Was alright. Some pointers: 2.133 is not "the motherboard being conservative", its the DDR4 standard defined by JEDEC. Also it would be nice to have an AMD system in there as well. Also also some games that are heavy on simulation like Total War or Anno.
@verskil Жыл бұрын
Lenovo Ideacentre (AMD RX570 4gb). Just upgraded the RAM from stock 2x4gb to 2x8gb Corsair LPX (2400mhz) to run MW2 as smooth as possible. The system runs so much faster and smoother in general now. MW2 ultra pre-settings from 50fps to a steady 70/75fps (no overclocking)
@mullerstephan3 жыл бұрын
conclusion: it doesn't really matter. Unless you want to waste your money, get 3200 MHz.
@MaZEEZaM3 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the whole video? He clearly says that he was surprised at the difference between 3200 and 3600MHz ram and for the few dollars difference, absolutely go with the 3600MHz ram as it makes quite a difference.
@mullerstephan3 жыл бұрын
@@MaZEEZaM looks like you weren't paying attention: its only worth it with a high end card and then your ONLY get a few more frames. and you need to void the warranty since you are activating XMP 2.0 So, for most people out there, not worth it.
@hakimzenian3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, this content is just what I need at the moment
@duckduckbashdash75312 жыл бұрын
Your personality is amazing, I literally lol at your jokes - hello from a fellow Brit 😂
Jesus man 400k+ subs been subscribed since like 5k and i also have you on my friendslist on origin
@srinathr2006 Жыл бұрын
bro, you should've measured 1% lows. Low latency ram helps to achieve more stable gaming.
@IslamGhunym Жыл бұрын
This video totally conflicts with my years of testings..... idk what kind of weird timings configurations are there so that all speeds are giving so close results, but I believe this video is misleading dude even tho it is 1y old, that's still not enough to justify the results. RAM speed does matter dude and a lot more than what you found.
@DK-ed3my2 жыл бұрын
I have a a320m-s2h-cf motherboard. What is the best RAM that i should get? thanks
@tech_jims3 жыл бұрын
Great video hope you enjoy your weekend 😀
@AvroBellow Жыл бұрын
I have 32GB of DDR4-3200 and I'm glad because I got it for literally HALF the price of similar DDR3-3600. I always say that it's better to have more RAM than faster RAM.
@tylerschrader682 жыл бұрын
I know nothing about the pc world. But these videos are helping out a ton!
@willyblondehair80703 жыл бұрын
Ayyy my favorite pc KZfaqr has uploaded
@ivanlimzg3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2666 2x8 kit but it was always running at 2100 until today when i enabled XMP. Haven't really tested the difference tho
@HardwareFRA3 жыл бұрын
Thx for the vid.
@condim323 жыл бұрын
nice video. i would love to see the differences with an amd cpu
@Ignisan_66 Жыл бұрын
My CPU i5-7400 can only support up to 2400 mhz.
@rafaelarturo1113 жыл бұрын
Excellent, excellent video, thanks for sharing!
@burhanuddina7483 жыл бұрын
Explained very well👍
@filayao61802 жыл бұрын
It's confusing...haha what 32gb ram should I get??? Cl 16 18? What 3200 3600??
@finley12343 жыл бұрын
Not the oven omen sponsor again...
@agentfaz87593 жыл бұрын
I changed my ram speed from 2933mhz to 3133mhz. Now I have a led on my motherboard and can't get into my bios to change the speed.
@timothyleung4688 Жыл бұрын
Just saying. It boot cycles because you need to set the memory clocks to half of what it shows in the BIOS if you are doing it manually. If you run on an AMD CPU you also need to set the infinity fabric memory to the same clock as the memory clock. Usually when you set the memory clock to 3200Mhz the actual ram speed you would put in the BIOS is 1600Mhz For 3600Mhz it would be 1800Mhz and so on.
@ThatZidaneGuy3 жыл бұрын
LOL Don't feel bad Marcus... I haven't finished Uncharted Lost Legacy either and I purchased it on day one! Awesome Video! Lots of takeaways from this one. Also got another tip from ya in this vid... Gotta be more animated.
@itsdeonlol3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Have a great weekend sir!
@gamepilation75692 жыл бұрын
so at 4k gaming even 2133 mhz is almost at par with 3200 mhz or 3600 mhz speeds . whoever gets a 3080 or more certainly will not game at 1080p , and at 2K even 2133 mhz is good enough. i really did not see that coming.
@allenglass33623 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy all your videos! I’m new to PC gaming bought an HP Omen with R7 and 3060rtx but having some high temps on cpu when editing
@PcCentric3 жыл бұрын
Desktop? Can you add another fan?
@allenglass33623 жыл бұрын
@@PcCentric thank you I’ll have to see if maybe I can fit another fan or maybe upgrade the ones that came with PC
@imperia6368 Жыл бұрын
8GB 3200 mhz Or 32Gb 1600mhz Which is better for gaming
@Puzzoozoo3 жыл бұрын
Saved me some money for when I buy the parts for my next [gaming] PC.
@Penguuproduction Жыл бұрын
Correction first time it goes into bios anyways
@NoLuv4Hoz3 жыл бұрын
After you've put all the money you can toward getting the fastest gpu and cpu, you shouldn't have much left for worrying about ram speed or you did something wrong.
@richoandy3 ай бұрын
my monitor is only 144hz, so having it running at 2900mhz is already enough I would say
@Frznngr7 ай бұрын
use to be that good ram gave you up to 10 % more fps so what has changed.... is it the mem controller on the cpus or how games are run now or how the ddr 5 ram works now ? or Moby windows made some changes ?
@double4iampoor Жыл бұрын
probably a bigger difference if you ran low settings at 1080p
@SMPLHobbies3 жыл бұрын
Your link in your description for the 1440p monitor you use goes to an Omen PC. Not the right link?
@kepler22-b2 жыл бұрын
Someone more experienced than me “BENCHMARCUS” that is the years most underrated comment right there 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Fakerulez7072 жыл бұрын
Sorry for being a noob for asking this but does it even matter if all I do is play at 1080p 60fps locked? Because, like you said, it only matters if the game is CPU bound which is usually the case if one is planning to play at a higher fps.
@darrens3494 Жыл бұрын
I wonder this too actually. I too play at 1080p 60fps
@BuddyPickleball2 жыл бұрын
So if RAM doesn't really matter, then why do all Tech YTers tell me to enable XMP all the time?
@pyjamas25793 жыл бұрын
Dam, are we not going to talk about that liquid cooler
@Nobody0006111 ай бұрын
In short if you are playing 2k or 4k ram speed doesn't matter for most part
@scannerz19863 жыл бұрын
I updated my bios last week, booted up some games, all of a sudden, bad fps. Took me a week to realise the speed had defaulted from 3600mhz back to like 2188mhz or something. What a idiot, lol.
@danzero5278 Жыл бұрын
Question, right now my pc is using 2 2400mhz ram sticks and the motherboard only supports up to 2133mhz, but when I check the speed of my ram at the task manager it says that my ram speed is 2400mhz, does this mean my pc is using 2400mhz ram speed?
@perfectionpersonified05 күн бұрын
😢no one answered him in a year
@jinx8624 Жыл бұрын
I have been using 2400mhz ram in 2144mhz for 5 years before i knew about xmp also yes 2400mhz is still slow and the worst part is i payed £50 for a single vengeance lpx 8gb 2400mhz in 2018
@jamesm5683 жыл бұрын
I don't use any Ram below 3600 MHz, and always stay below the timing of CL 16.
@ChaosLycan133 жыл бұрын
higher ram speed does help multitasking, that's what i know and experienced
@zues121510Ай бұрын
Damn lucky for me my ram easily overclocked from 3200 to 3600
@SMRakib-ql5tx3 жыл бұрын
Waiting for this video...🥰🥰 we want more videos like this...
@eldibs3 жыл бұрын
You finished Control? What was your favorite mission, and why was it the Ashtray Maze?
@PcCentric3 жыл бұрын
Haha, 💯
@Secarious Жыл бұрын
I was hoping you'd tell me it doesn't matter after my PC crashes whenever I have xmp enabled..
@slydehaze013 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@Roll_the_Bones Жыл бұрын
Noice work!
@TechGuides3 жыл бұрын
Yes, cheers :)
@ottpreemet Жыл бұрын
I'm looking for RAM and couple questions have come up for me 1. Is Vengeamce RGB Pro (can be SL) good (particularly for i5 12400F build)? 2. I haven't seen reviews about T-Force Delta RGB. Is that good? 3. If I had to choose between these which one would be better (for i5 12400F)? 4. If there is any other under 80€ RAM that performs as well or better then I'd love to know.
@AlienMuffi3 жыл бұрын
You have a nice Poster from Kurzgesagt in the Background 😉
@miracula77822 жыл бұрын
Welp, too bad my PC posts nothing but bluescreens after 30 minutes of gaming with XMP profiles enabled, and even when the ram gets clocked manually. Then again, I play at 1440p anyway, so I guess I'm fine.
@somerandoasshatontheintern83373 жыл бұрын
how about ram speed comparison for ryzen apus and non apus? :)
@helthuismartin2 жыл бұрын
Buy Corsair LPX 2X16GB sticks 3600 MHZ. I have them and they are very fast and high quality.