I hate to say it, but I watched the whole video and it was really good. Lovely stuff benchmarcus

Pc-Enthusiasts be like: "EEEWWW ketchup and mustard cables....." Also Pc-Enthusiasts: "Ooooh sleeved ketchup and mustard cables, NOICE".

It’s definitely a serious video when centric pulls out a notebook for notes 📝

Should have shown 1% lows because thats where the biggest difference most likely will be in cpu bound scenarios

you didn't mention anything about the CL timings they play equally important role and this video shouldn't have been made without mentioning them

Like others, would love to see how timings effect ram, so 3600c16 vs 3600c18, as well as 3200c16 vs 3600c18, as prices for these vary

PS. You've got the AIO in the wrong place, basic thermodynamics, lad.

I literally went a year with my 3000mhz ram running at 2133mhz not knowing until my frame stuttering got so bad. I checked bios and I found that out. Changed it and will never look bad and What a difference

2:40 "You Should Definitely Be AWARE " Proceeds to drop RAM on the keyboard menacingly.

The amount of gain matters. IF you go from 1333 to 1866, its easy to show a double digit FPS increase. When you go from 3200 to 3600 you are looking at 1-3 FPS increase. Also giving the PC enough gigs of RAM can have similar and even better gains, bear in mind that gigs of RAM usage scales with most applications and window's and chrome eats loads of RAM and in fact on 32 gigs and below window's off loads a whole lot of gigs worth to your pagefile for your SSD! So having 64 gigs of RAM means almost no pagefile usage and free's up how the PC uses resources when gaming.

These jokes are killing me, my wife is starting to wonder why I'm laughing at my computer all the time!

Great vid and timing! I'm currently still waiting on my ram, I've got every other component. I just want to start the build haha. Thanks for all these videos, they have been super helpful for me.

i had 2400 speed ram with my ryzen 5 3600 and everything ran like crap and it loved to crash, i upgraded it to 3200 speed and it made the world of a difference.

Def agree in the CL timings from other comments What I've seen from other sources seems to day that 3200 at CL16 is basically the equiv of 3600 CL18 so just go with whichever is better priced for example a corsair vengeance pro RGB CL16 @ 3200 MHZ for 2x8 (16gb) is $88 and a CL18 @ 3600 MHZ is $105 so you're paying basically 20% more for the same speed

Yes, ram speed definetally affects framerates in games. It also depends what cpu/motherboard/gpu you have. If you aren't GPU-bottlenecked, faster ram definetally helps, it just depends on the game. For example in Call of Duty Warzone you really do need the fastest and lowest latency ram you possibly can get. Fast Samsung B-die espeically when tuned to low latency and high bandwidth can increase your framerates by up to 20-50fps with an overclocked CPU as long as you are not limited by your graphics card.

3200 CL14 or 3600 CL16 are the sweet spots. I've tested alot of ram in my PC with a 12900K and after those speeds the difference becomes very negligible. Personally i have a 3200 with 14-14-14-36 timings and it works great.

There's one potential issue with this test, although I do not know how significant. ... When testing the same RAM at different speeds, you have to take into account the CAS, RAS, etc, latency 'timings'. (Like e.g. CL timings.) The timings of the RAM on one particular set of RAM, will increase as the frequency of the RAM increases. That means that the processing of data that the RAM does, takes longer. E.g. the time it takes for the RAM to respond to a signal to work with data, etc. However if you had four sets of RAM with the same timings at your chosen frequencies of RAM. Then you could likely see more increase in performance.

RAM speed and configuration are more significant when you are having an iGPU, since they rely 100% on main RAM. I am witnessing this first handedly - my laptop Ryzen5500U is significantly faster with a dual channel 2x8GB 3200Mhz instead of a single stick. If you already have a powerful GPU with enough dedicated GDDR memory and dual channel main RAM the speed does not affect so much the performance.

Something that you didn't show in your charts were the 1% lows, Ram speed is important, but also the timings are even MORE important when it comes to frametimings as well. Just some feedback for next time. Really liked the presentation of it all thought. Good job

I got 3600mhz because I have a Ryzen CPU and I am currently using the igpu of the 5600g untill I have a dgpu and ram speed matters a lot more for apus.

Should be comparing the same cl timings at different frequency to have a more apples to apples comparisons.

"Make sure you enable the XMP Profile before you start your PC." Me running my first build for 2 years now: wat ._. See this is why there should be a PC building school where they teach this stuff. Glad I know now. Thanks b0ss

👍🏼 good guidance clearly explained as always!

Personal experience is that RAM Latency times and cooling effeciency have the greatest impact on RAM performance. Motherboard expandability choice of storage medium and a high quality PSU(that goes about 200 to 250 watts over what your build needs for overclocking headroom) are also big factors that affect your build performance.

Don't feel bad dude, I never finished Hollow Knight, even though it's probably one of my all-time favorite games. I kept thinking it would be so sad to have finished the game, so I ended up never finishing it. This way, it's like I'll be playing it _forever_ ...

Your such an amazing teacher I’ve learned a lot about most of the components and I don’t even own a computer but have been considering heavily about transferring over from console

Ironic sponsorship because most omen prebuilts I have seen come with one sick of ram

And as if by magic the day I decide to research ram this video is made, love the vids benchmarcus😁

super helpful as usual 👍

no mention of the CAS latency, which is what is holding me back the most with my Ryzen 9 build, great video anyway

all your videos are super helpful. this christmas i plan on upgrading my pc with a £1000 budget and your videos give me inspiration xDD

For 1440p and 4k gaming 3200 MHz is litterally the same at 1080p definitely go for 3600 other than that theres no reason to pay more for 3600

Thanks for actually answering what i was looking for. Other videos tend to go off

I was overlooking ram on Ryzen 1000, 3000 and 5000 CPUs. Conclusion, get ram kit with max speed supported by your CPU and don't waste time.

Just ordered my Meshlicous Itx Build went for the 3200 ram can’t wait to put it together 😆

You should have explained cl timings and how that can effect performance. A lot of people get confused by it, as I did when I started researching. cl16 3600mhz or cl19 3600mhz makes a big difference.

So I know it's a pretty easy game but for check CPU and RAM speed you can use Minecraft. It's basically only needs CPU and RAM speed so it would be perfect. With an shader and flying in creative in one direction it should be easy to reach some limits

When he speaks he speaks with his whole body too

Thanks for making this video I REALLY NEEDED THIS👍👍

War zone loves also higher ram ...I made the same error with my pc...the ram speed was 2133 and then I activated the xmp I was amazed to see it changed

Great tutorial! Thank you!

First time seeing one of you videos. Was alright. Some pointers: 2.133 is not "the motherboard being conservative", its the DDR4 standard defined by JEDEC. Also it would be nice to have an AMD system in there as well. Also also some games that are heavy on simulation like Total War or Anno.

Lenovo Ideacentre (AMD RX570 4gb). Just upgraded the RAM from stock 2x4gb to 2x8gb Corsair LPX (2400mhz) to run MW2 as smooth as possible. The system runs so much faster and smoother in general now. MW2 ultra pre-settings from 50fps to a steady 70/75fps (no overclocking)

conclusion: it doesn't really matter. Unless you want to waste your money, get 3200 MHz.

Thanks a lot, this content is just what I need at the moment

Your personality is amazing, I literally lol at your jokes - hello from a fellow Brit 😂

CPU: Intel Core i9 9900k Cpu Cooler: NZXT Kracken x53 73.11 CFM Liquid Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming Atx LGA1151 Ram: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB(16x2)DDR4-3200 CL 16 M.2: Samsung970 EVO Plus 2TB M.2-2280 NVME M.2: WD Black SN850 1TB GPU: Geforce Rtx 3090 Case: Nzxt H510 Atx Mid Tower PSU: Corsair RM(2019) 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX

Did you ever see the sloth from Ice Age?

Very helpful, thank you 🙂

Jesus man 400k+ subs been subscribed since like 5k and i also have you on my friendslist on origin

bro, you should've measured 1% lows. Low latency ram helps to achieve more stable gaming.

This video totally conflicts with my years of testings..... idk what kind of weird timings configurations are there so that all speeds are giving so close results, but I believe this video is misleading dude even tho it is 1y old, that's still not enough to justify the results. RAM speed does matter dude and a lot more than what you found.

I have a a320m-s2h-cf motherboard. What is the best RAM that i should get? thanks

Great video hope you enjoy your weekend 😀

I have 32GB of DDR4-3200 and I'm glad because I got it for literally HALF the price of similar DDR3-3600. I always say that it's better to have more RAM than faster RAM.

I know nothing about the pc world. But these videos are helping out a ton!

Ayyy my favorite pc KZfaqr has uploaded

I have a 2666 2x8 kit but it was always running at 2100 until today when i enabled XMP. Haven't really tested the difference tho

Thx for the vid.

nice video. i would love to see the differences with an amd cpu

My CPU i5-7400 can only support up to 2400 mhz.

Excellent, excellent video, thanks for sharing!

Explained very well👍

It's confusing...haha what 32gb ram should I get??? Cl 16 18? What 3200 3600??

Not the oven omen sponsor again...

I changed my ram speed from 2933mhz to 3133mhz. Now I have a led on my motherboard and can't get into my bios to change the speed.

Just saying. It boot cycles because you need to set the memory clocks to half of what it shows in the BIOS if you are doing it manually. If you run on an AMD CPU you also need to set the infinity fabric memory to the same clock as the memory clock. Usually when you set the memory clock to 3200Mhz the actual ram speed you would put in the BIOS is 1600Mhz For 3600Mhz it would be 1800Mhz and so on.

LOL Don't feel bad Marcus... I haven't finished Uncharted Lost Legacy either and I purchased it on day one! Awesome Video! Lots of takeaways from this one. Also got another tip from ya in this vid... Gotta be more animated.

Nice video! Have a great weekend sir!

so at 4k gaming even 2133 mhz is almost at par with 3200 mhz or 3600 mhz speeds . whoever gets a 3080 or more certainly will not game at 1080p , and at 2K even 2133 mhz is good enough. i really did not see that coming.

Really enjoy all your videos! I’m new to PC gaming bought an HP Omen with R7 and 3060rtx but having some high temps on cpu when editing

Saved me some money for when I buy the parts for my next [gaming] PC.

Correction first time it goes into bios anyways

After you've put all the money you can toward getting the fastest gpu and cpu, you shouldn't have much left for worrying about ram speed or you did something wrong.

my monitor is only 144hz, so having it running at 2900mhz is already enough I would say

use to be that good ram gave you up to 10 % more fps so what has changed.... is it the mem controller on the cpus or how games are run now or how the ddr 5 ram works now ? or Moby windows made some changes ?

probably a bigger difference if you ran low settings at 1080p

Your link in your description for the 1440p monitor you use goes to an Omen PC. Not the right link?

Someone more experienced than me “BENCHMARCUS” that is the years most underrated comment right there 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Sorry for being a noob for asking this but does it even matter if all I do is play at 1080p 60fps locked? Because, like you said, it only matters if the game is CPU bound which is usually the case if one is planning to play at a higher fps.

So if RAM doesn't really matter, then why do all Tech YTers tell me to enable XMP all the time?

Dam, are we not going to talk about that liquid cooler

In short if you are playing 2k or 4k ram speed doesn't matter for most part

I updated my bios last week, booted up some games, all of a sudden, bad fps. Took me a week to realise the speed had defaulted from 3600mhz back to like 2188mhz or something. What a idiot, lol.

Question, right now my pc is using 2 2400mhz ram sticks and the motherboard only supports up to 2133mhz, but when I check the speed of my ram at the task manager it says that my ram speed is 2400mhz, does this mean my pc is using 2400mhz ram speed?

I have been using 2400mhz ram in 2144mhz for 5 years before i knew about xmp also yes 2400mhz is still slow and the worst part is i payed £50 for a single vengeance lpx 8gb 2400mhz in 2018

I don't use any Ram below 3600 MHz, and always stay below the timing of CL 16.

higher ram speed does help multitasking, that's what i know and experienced

Damn lucky for me my ram easily overclocked from 3200 to 3600

Waiting for this video...🥰🥰 we want more videos like this...

You finished Control? What was your favorite mission, and why was it the Ashtray Maze?

I was hoping you'd tell me it doesn't matter after my PC crashes whenever I have xmp enabled..

Nice video

Noice work!

Yes, cheers :)

I'm looking for RAM and couple questions have come up for me 1. Is Vengeamce RGB Pro (can be SL) good (particularly for i5 12400F build)? 2. I haven't seen reviews about T-Force Delta RGB. Is that good? 3. If I had to choose between these which one would be better (for i5 12400F)? 4. If there is any other under 80€ RAM that performs as well or better then I'd love to know.

You have a nice Poster from Kurzgesagt in the Background 😉

Welp, too bad my PC posts nothing but bluescreens after 30 minutes of gaming with XMP profiles enabled, and even when the ram gets clocked manually. Then again, I play at 1440p anyway, so I guess I'm fine.

how about ram speed comparison for ryzen apus and non apus? :)

Buy Corsair LPX 2X16GB sticks 3600 MHZ. I have them and they are very fast and high quality.