My photography teacher keeps ranting to us about how her uni only accepted 1 girl per class. She probably wants us to be envious or intimidated. I'd rather she just do her job and teach

You couldn't tell by the clothes?

@@dtulip1 not old enough to tell for sure just by the clothes. Fashion from the 20th century keeps repeating

"They [Yale] keep five slots open for women. One unofficially for a Wellesley girl." That's the exact quote. Wellesley Women's College. Prestigious school for Women. Women from this college were known to be above reproach. The best of the best. Well trained in academics, modesty, strick religious practices, and a wide swathe of positive attributes. Seeing she had down as her goal of pre-law would show Yale that she that she had her head on straight, and was dedicated to her goals.

I’m betting they never filled more than 2 and never the Wellesley girl’s slot.

I love how sweet and elegant you describe how your mom orchestrated her life, but your dad can't manage his crap! 😂😂 I imagine a man who is extremely difficult to deal with and even harder to connect with emotionally. It's funny how someone so put together finds love and contentment with someone so opposite of themselves.

Your dad’s a piece of shit who used your mother and you guys are praising her for putting up with just mental emotional abuse of a husband who couldn’t be an actual partner It’s sad your mom felt she had to do it all and couldn’t rely on her husband to help her out Your mom deserved better And you should recognize by now that your mother deserves better

Sounds terrible, honestly.

so you had a parent who did 150 percent of the work and one that only did 50

No offence to your mother, but that just sounds like a woman who didn’t know how to ask for help and couldn’t rely on her partner, and didn’t know how to stand up for herself. I don’t really consider people doing it all a good thing you shouldn’t do that to yourself you should be able to rely on others. You shouldn’t want to work yourself hard just to say you did. You don’t win life by struggling more then others you win by being happy and fulfilled in all aspects of life.

And they end up doing the housewife thing anyway, well, ya know, after sleeping through half the highschool roster. And today's housewife is not really a housewife anymore. Cleaning and cooking is not a housewife. Back then you would do the finances, manual housework, schooling children after their classes, teaching your children how to live instead of just sending them to school and saying the generic "how was class" everyday. Most had gardens, orchards, cellars etc. Youd be hard pressed to find an actual housewife nowadays. The women are too busy complaining about how unfair life is for them while they collect a check off of OF.

​@@nightwings8984I feel like you're talking about a very specific person rn

@@spookyspirits4462 I'm not sure how almost any of that is pointed at 1 person

@@nightwings8984 🧐

A man nowadays cant afford to provide all those things, buy a house, build the cellar, provide for the children, or satisfy their wives sexually or even emotionally provide for the kids. They just a woman as a sex slave, a maid, and a nanny but also want her to work a job and also take care of the kids and also be his mommy and accept that she'll probably never have any good sex ever again. So boo hoo. If men and women hate each other so much why do yall keep having sex with each other?​@nightwings8984

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What movie?

@@paydenstdenis7880 I don’t even know 😂

@@paydenstdenis7880its called mona lisa smile, its a beautiful movie and highly recommend it. its got a lovely cast and a heartwarming storyline. i found this movie on netflix one night when i couldnt sleep and its become a comfort film for sure

@@paydenstdenis7880Mona Lisa smile

Not just a house wife. Without a supportive husband it's hard to have a job.

​@@miacyr3125 How so?

Funny how women get married, yet think about their wants and needs as much as they did when they were single. Family comes first if you're married. As husband all of our wants aren't met either. If you're not built to be part of something bigger, stay small.

Lord...yes, with most men. Better did some training or education and keep your own money!

Girls like you and me we learned to be aware of what goes on at home, so we won't make the same mistakes our mothers made. I learned that education even just a HS diploma can help better jobs. I knew this and told my mother I will not quit HS due to my need to make sure to have a decent job with benefits and to buy a car which I did with half of my income which I provided half of what I earned to provide for my mother's family. It is wrong to push young girls to be the financial support only temporary or we won't have a chance to have a life of our own. I learned to take that as law - and eventually moved out at 28 to have that life I should have.

In that era woman were forced to choose... How sad..

​@@anneleonard739 My grandmother career was to be an Ranchers wife and well respected member of the community. She worked hard at home had her own garden, canned, pickled, did an lot of hand craft and sewing. Everyone came by during an fruit harvest to help because they loved grandmother jams. She had lots of friends in the community was vary active and in her quite way made sure no one went hungry. In her last decade of life she was an active member of the volunteer fire department. She maned the radios 24/7 at her house.

cool story. not in this time period...

It really depends on what type of career and how involved you want to be in your kids lives.

"from both parties" is so true. One person can't do everything and men forget that sometimes

So a woman who doesn't desire anything else but a good marriage, raising children and maintaining the house, isn't normal? You have just insulted millions of women, one of those being my mother. Let women chose for themselves and don't you dare belittle any of them for their choice. It's disgusting and sexist, every person regardless of sex deserves to chose their own path, they should get support for their choice, not pushed towards whatever someone else thinks is the normal thing to do...

It depends on what you truly want. She wanted to be a mother more than anything, and realized that being in school it would mean to sacrifice time with her future children. She wasn't willing to do that. She chose to sacrifice school for the well being of her kids. Now that is love and determination ❤

Why can't a woman's dreams lie with or revolve around a family, around her children, around being a mother and a wife? Is it wrong if she only dreams of that? The gift of motherhood is a gift that is given only to women. If the woman wanted her dream to be based on motherhood, she could and she should.

Teacher never had marriage. So she really wasn’t modeling you can have both. She was modeling that just cause you get engaged does not mean that plans will change and it will be alright. So also just cause you go to college doesn’t mean you have to go to grad school. Teacher was not even fulfilling her own dream of studying art in Europe until the end. The blond is trying to please the teacher and herself and everyone. She stood up for herself on that porch. Finally.

@@tweetdezweet ten years before the country was in the middle of WW2 and women building airplanes to pity sakes.

More recent Wellesley student here. Not anymore. Harvard boys f*cked their own reputation. MIT and Olin boys still have a chance.

The Wellesley campus is so beautiful. I studied at BU but a friend and I drove out there one beautiful fall day to walk around the campus.

She got her job in the 1990s? It wasn't really an issue for women to get an education or jobs back then, in the 1990s.

Judging from the language and the username, this person is Indian. Indian women, especially from small towns have to fight harder to do what they want. My mother has a masters and a few other qualifications (trained seamstress, trained teacher, trained artist) but she didn’t get to work because for the longest time she wasn’t allowed to because she is the “daughter in law first, a person next”. All of this happened after 1994, the year my mom got married.

​@@attabanana4709You know that everywhere is not a first world country right?

I agree 100%!! Something is always sacrificed because you cannot do both sucessfully, either home and kids will suffer, or the job. Now that most women have to work to keep afloat financially there is alot I resentment in marriages because alot of husbands still do not do their share of housework. Sorry societal norms, but if women are forced to be major contributors to finances in the home, men should be forced to help with housework.

So true ​@@kimkaragiannis848

Which movie is this?

Wait what, this is Mona Lisa Smile, not an animated movie so I'm utterly confused if this is a bug or a joke bc this has like 8 likes rn😭

I would love to know which Studio Ghibli movie you are referring to - I absolutely love those movies!

Having a helpful partner is key, I agree, only with help from a husband, can it be done successfully.

Watch the movie

The time frame, this is filmed in is a time frame when women literally only went to college to find husbands because you weren’t supposed to have your own career that was for poor women who couldn’t get married and even then there’s only certain jobs those women were supposed to do

Because what would happen if she got divorced? Was in an abusive relationship, or her husband died? Having a degree or career can and will save her life.

Education and knowledge gained is NEVER wasted. This can be passed on to anyone .. one's children, friends, etc. My mum had the basic Education n then got married. She's a homemaker n v busy but she reads and the knowledge she gains she shares with and with anyone who comes her way... always encouraging and helping people. She's AMAZING!!!! So whatever u learn is never wasted!!!

Because education and knowledge for the sake of it is important for one’s soul?

@agnespilloud6258 While that does make sense. I don't think she'll get an education by not showing up to class. Also, there are cheaper ways to learn things for the hell of it than signing up for college classes.

Title please?

@@ajibolaabisola4791 Mona Lisa Smile

@@ajibolaabisola4791 Mona Lisa Smile

​@@ajibolaabisola4791 Mona Lisa Smile

Not really. God forbid someone have a different thought to yours. You know, maybe you should watch this movie

​@@cottoncandiez8872 different options that are misogynist?😂 Lmao so we can say slavery was good and that would just be a different option right? Men literally being straight out misogynist and wanting to a certain group of humans to be opressed

Well, their main goal in life us ti shit on women, so it is expected.

@@cottoncandiez8872nah here are people insinuating that women who want careers are selfish wh*res who do OF

Really you think it is crule? I mean, that's right she CAN both. The girl in this movie crealry has ambicion to do it, but she feel like she NEEDS to setal down for just one, which is unfair

Back then, women were told and encouraged ONLY to be house wives and mothers though they wanted both. I was watching a documentary on KZfaq about that time era and women, and in the comment section of that documentary actual women who were adults in that time era commented that they were not happy it was like that then because a lot of them had wanted to work and have families at the same time. But because it was frowned on then they didn’t do that and regretted it. Some women were like ‘yes, we were encouraged to go and get a degree BUT then we were expected after college to let all that education go to waste and just be a wife and mother.’ A lot of those commenters were not happy about that. It was eye opening that comment section.

@@liliesandroses6323 Both are unfair. She thinks she CAN do both. But you don't realise what the household expectations are from that era. The men NOT even lifting a glass of water! Haven't you seen that scene where he taps & wife should come pour coffee again (I guess it was some Why she killed her husband or some movie like that) Her friend even pointed out she's not your slave. Not your servant. Atleast ASK politely. But the housewives were brainwashed to this extent, in the west, in this scene, she says, NO, I'm happy to do so for my husband who provides! I was also sheltered, pampered. I'd all my time for B school. To study. Even as an Indian daughter, despite so much work mom did everything. Now I realise how amazing my childhood was. Mom doing everyone's chores. But it's so hard for mom when she had to do so much at work outside as a University professor. When women get to work outside nobody shares their household duties. Not just their own chores. But entire family's. Yes, they should go fulfill their dream But it's *cruel* to expect them to still be the best homemaker ever. They need time to BREATHE for heavens sake.

@@SnowLeopardForever I'm aware. But you're not. The housewife was supposed to do EVERYTHING. Even fill your coffee mug everytime it finished as the man didn't even lift a glass of water. Doing all of that leaves no time to work outside. "Both" is a TRAP. In India, women work. And they're expected to do "both". That's the most cruel thing ever. All family members must HELP do chores if she has to devote so much time to study, to work outside too. Expecting her to still do tasks that need 24 hours is bizzare.

You didn’t understood the movie then

Because you have to declare lol. Guess you haven’t been to university

@@AL-fl4jk ofc I did. But i didnt declare a major I wasnt gonna apply for.

Pre law is not supposed to be an actual major. Maybe at some universities but never at Wellesley

Pre law is not a major. Full stop. There's just certain areas of study most will complete their undergraduate in when their intention is to apply to law school. And even then, there's a few states where law school isn't required.

Mona Lisa smile

If there was a village, that wouldn't happen.

Mona Lisa’s Smile

She does want to go.

@@teresamagnusson no. Since she had not gotten engaged yet she was following the College path to graduate school. The teacher put as much pressure on her to fill out the form as Betty did in encouraging marriage. The teacher was to be married herself. It was only Pearl Harbor and them both changing by the end of the war that had her continue with education instead. If she is allowed to change lanes in life at 20 or 22 why can’t her student? The teacher was not even doing what she wanted to do. At the end they all were. Ginnifer’s character confessed to the boy and they became a couple. The teacher left for Europe to study. Her passion and one she realized every student didn’t have for longer than the prescribed years of education. The married woman got a divorce and may go to grad school. Or will get a job. And this student was married and would have the center hall colonial. This was a privileged bunch of students. Why is the student sleeping the married guy the good one in this? But the married woman being cheated on the bad woman in this? Aren’t the husbands stepping out bad? The student sleeping with the married man is doing so cause her family miserable, so everyone else’s should be. How dare it be hard not to get the pill so I don’t pregnant. For a bunch of seemingly smart and rich people they were as dumb as everyone else. I actually did both but not at the same. I went to college, working during college part time. Then grad school then full time for years until I became a parent and decided to stay home. My husband always was home first when married when both working. We fended for ourselves most the time or had a lot of left overs. It is not rocket science. The students in this film would for the next 12 years proceed to give birth to most entitled anarchic generation in history.

@@teresamagnusson no she does not want to go. She wants to get on with the next stage of her life with the guy she dated a while. It was the baby boom period for pity sakes.

​​@@kristinesharp6286Of course she wants to go. There are no excuses. Time period is irrelevant. She discusses wanting to go.

@@teresamagnusson with the teacher. Before she decides to get married. I think it was before the engagement. The person who wants her to go. And she discusses marrying with the married student cause the married person wants her married. But on the porch she speaks truth. 5% of women had college degrees. She will be in this category. Saying she is miserable for not getting a grad school degree is ridiculous. She picked moving onto her next stage of life. Family. Why are so many upset about 70 years ago? Now more women enroll in college than men. Seems a lot of women currently angry.

1953

Mona Lisa Smile

Monnalisa’s smile

Your taste in movies is terrible

@@wesleypepple7525hush

Mona Lisa smile

Why do women even have desires to do anything besides birthing and raising children if that is apparently all we’re supposed to do