Does the Bible Actually Describe the Earth as FLAT?

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The flat-earth theory has been growing quite a bit in recent years, but what does the Bible have to say about it? In this presentation, Dr. Danny Faulkner reveals the truth about the shape of the earth according to science and God’s Word.
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@Claire-.-
@Claire-.- Ай бұрын
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Psalm 19:1
@Farmer4Truth
@Farmer4Truth Ай бұрын
Amen!
@mickjames7962
@mickjames7962 Ай бұрын
Exactly and handiwork means construction which is distinct and unique from his creation of nature. It’s not the ozone folks it’s the ceiling they can’t beak or get through. Evil is under quarantine.
@paulcurran4786
@paulcurran4786 Ай бұрын
And only a FE with a dome over it can include a firmament, right?
@cryptojihadi265
@cryptojihadi265 Ай бұрын
Which is the HEAVENS. Genesis literally says, God called the "firmament" HEAVEN! So, NO, it's not a HARD dome. Firmament is a word created specifically for that verse. Since it has ZERO definition outside of scripture, we are forced to rely on God's WORD to define it; and right in the VERY first chapter of the Bible, He does define it as HEAVEN. What's interesting is that heavens are almost infinitely vast, with Galaxies Sextillions of miles apart from each other. Nebula TRILLIONS of miles across and Quintillions of miles away from us, yet you FLERFS want to reduce that incomprehensible glorious creation into nothing more than a snow globe with a 24000-mile base. Now WHO do you think would be the one behind stealing Glory from God and trying to make Christians look like delusional fools?
@Farmer4Truth
@Farmer4Truth Ай бұрын
@@paulcurran4786 Right, like a snow globe with a foundation 🙃
@Homesteader1776
@Homesteader1776 Ай бұрын
What kind of king makes Himself nothing for His people? The Mighty One. What kind of king allows Himself to be humiliated and beaten for His people until He is unrecognizable and is still able to hold His head high? The Merciful One. What kind of king allows Himself to be hung on a cross for His people? The Righteous One. And because He has done this for us, I will make my life a living sacrifice unto Him. His name is above all other names His name is Jesus.
@John-kj5wh
@John-kj5wh Ай бұрын
Thats what matters. Even when i disagree with Flatters we usually can come to terms on that there
@HellNoMoreBiden
@HellNoMoreBiden Ай бұрын
​@@John-kj5whDo flatters believe in God? I ran into a guy in his late forties that was convinced the Earth is flat and he was trying to explain that to me, but he had no time lol
@mehallica666
@mehallica666 Ай бұрын
@@HellNoMoreBiden 95% of flat Earthers are deeply religious creationists!
@johnqpublic7608
@johnqpublic7608 Ай бұрын
@@mehallica666 _"95% of flat Earthers are deeply religious creationists!"_ the fist time i read that i read "cretins". i guess it still fits.
@donaldrodriguez8134
@donaldrodriguez8134 Ай бұрын
@@HellNoMoreBiden so all the Cathedrals around the world 🗺️ were built with Horses and Wagons To ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@TheMdames
@TheMdames Ай бұрын
Once you see, you can not unsee the truth.
@mumbles215
@mumbles215 Ай бұрын
When Dorothy looked behind the curtain, she too could Never unsee.
@TheMdames
@TheMdames Ай бұрын
@mumbles215 And she saw was a fraud he was!
@paulcurran4786
@paulcurran4786 Ай бұрын
But u can be led to believe yet another lie.....and be blind to its overwhelming faults!
@TheMdames
@TheMdames Ай бұрын
@@paulcurran4786 to much is given much is expected.
@paulcurran4786
@paulcurran4786 Ай бұрын
@@TheMdames ok....
@trasenagleeson5422
@trasenagleeson5422 Ай бұрын
Once you go flat you never go back
@someone-ke4qj
@someone-ke4qj Ай бұрын
Id prefer a couple big globes 🌎🌍
@RaptureReadyMamaBear
@RaptureReadyMamaBear Ай бұрын
To keep you in slumber with the tic tok of the marbles …
@WildberryAB
@WildberryAB Ай бұрын
You never, ever go back. Check it out, people.
@ShuwshanEmeq-xb3mk
@ShuwshanEmeq-xb3mk Ай бұрын
Once you see too far, the illusion is over! I live on the Grand Strand! All it took was binoculars!
@paulcurran4786
@paulcurran4786 Ай бұрын
Yeah, u go forward in the knowledge that it's not a globe but it's also not a FE, both have more holes than a bums cardigan! Luckily FE isn't the only alternative to the globe ✌
@lalaboards
@lalaboards Ай бұрын
If Wikipedia has to put up their declaimer ,tells you all you need to know .
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 Ай бұрын
or, it could be so stoopid it's deadly...
@lalaboards
@lalaboards Ай бұрын
@@tjjones621 Yeah and believing men can get pregnant in the medical industry is perfectly safe .
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 Ай бұрын
@@lalaboards even that is less silly than believing Earth is flat...
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 Ай бұрын
@@lalaboards "believing men can get pregnant in the medical industry" no legit doctor believes a man can get pregnant.. not sure what you are trying to say tho..
@lalaboards
@lalaboards Ай бұрын
@@tjjones621 Maybe you should learn the Difference between Alchemy and the scientific method .
@IAMhassentyou
@IAMhassentyou Ай бұрын
“Your word, LORD, is eternal; it stands firm in the heavens” (Psalm 119:89). “The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of our God endures forever” (Isaiah 40:8). “I the Lord do not change” (Malachi 3:6). “Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away” (Matthew 24:35).
@christiroseify
@christiroseify Ай бұрын
And not one single one of those scriptures addresses the shape of the earth... But good try
@lulamiledumisa432
@lulamiledumisa432 Ай бұрын
​@@christiroseify Over 100 verses describe the shape of the Earth, Genesis 1 and Revelation 20 make it explicitly clear that the Earth is a stationary plain enclosed by a dome that holds water above.
@christiroseify
@christiroseify Ай бұрын
@@lulamiledumisa432 You apparently lost track of who is saying what in this thread if you thought you needed to tell me this. Maybe go back through and re-read. I am the one arguing that the Bible says nothing about the earth being a sphere.
@phantom96aggie00
@phantom96aggie00 Ай бұрын
​@@lulamiledumisa432 no, it does not. But good try.
@fakechecknumber1198
@fakechecknumber1198 Ай бұрын
Personally, taking the way you are. God is awesome and his son died for us. So that we will not have to die. I mean, it's really awesome that we are here in this time. Because when the sacrifice is being held in Israel. The third temple will be built and then yeah.
@carolinedelia1096
@carolinedelia1096 Ай бұрын
Circle is not a ball or sphere. The plate that I eat off is a circle but isn’t a sphere
@ednja
@ednja Ай бұрын
I thank God that I never had to be a member of the Flat Earth Cult.
@peterdeans4635
@peterdeans4635 Ай бұрын
Look at a full moon, it is a circle against the darkness of the night sky, it is also a sphere. I always ask flat earthers why did they only consider this new think five or six years ago after knowing it was a globe all your life before that.✌️😊
@carolinedelia1096
@carolinedelia1096 Ай бұрын
No I considered this my whole life. I ask my mother when I was young if it was ok not to agree with my teachers theories. I prayed to Jesus and I gave him the problem of getting me into a good college. I didn’t know how he’d do it. I went out for track with a friend not my idea. Even though it never really liked running I hardly lost a race. Jesus not only got me into many prestigious colleges but he got me a full ride. God is great.. Trust me we have been lied to and I’m not hurt if you think I’m dumb I’m used to it. Jesus is coming soon and I can’t wait to know the truth. God Bless you Brother
@jimthomas1989
@jimthomas1989 Ай бұрын
​@@carolinedelia1096 , Proverbs 8 : 27 When ( HE) Created/Prepared/Established the Heavens , I WAS THERE ! When ( HE) set a Compass/ Circle upon the Face of the depth/ deep Jesus just said that he was there when his Father who is God Almighty created the Heavens and that the Face or Top of water has a Circle or Compass of the depth or deep Jesus just said that water bends around the EARTH ! And Jesus should know because he was there when God Almighty Created the Heavens and the Earth !
@jimthomas1989
@jimthomas1989 Ай бұрын
​@@carolinedelia1096 , God's name is YHWH and it's pronounced Yahweh in Hebrew and translated into English language is at Exodus 6 :3 and Psalms 83 :18 God's Son's name is Yeshua and translated into English language is Jesus Jesus is the SON of God Almighty Mark 1 : 1 Again Jesus is the SON of God Almighty Colossians 1 : 3
@lequanshockley3585
@lequanshockley3585 Ай бұрын
What people don’t understand is that it’s not a floating disc in space. Space only exists in the globe theory.
@Farmer4Truth
@Farmer4Truth Ай бұрын
Yes, they are arguing against something most people don’t believe.
@greenblood6186
@greenblood6186 Ай бұрын
"Theory". Lol.
@djcraigg69
@djcraigg69 Ай бұрын
Yet there's literally people on the ISS right now. 🤦‍♂️
@mumbles215
@mumbles215 Ай бұрын
Everything is “theory” that’s what the scientific method is. Question all
@revelari5250
@revelari5250 Ай бұрын
@@mumbles215no there’s theories and there’s theories that’s been proven over time and turn into as facts. if theory didn’t turn into facts you wouldn’t have a cell phone, computer, or a laptop.
@johnelder9875
@johnelder9875 Ай бұрын
Everyone is so busy arguing about flat earth that they aren't even focusing on their relationship with Jesus and spreading the gospel to the lost
@blueskyfanclub
@blueskyfanclub Ай бұрын
Why do you think atheists exist? Because they’ve brought in evolution, big bang, infinite universe science fiction…all brought in on the Trojan Horse called the Heliocentric Solar System. A godless system, and you refuse to acknowledge God’s true creation. Psalms 19:1
@BillAccardi
@BillAccardi Ай бұрын
First of all there is No argument. 2nd... you can't multitask?
@1GODISNOWHERE1
@1GODISNOWHERE1 Ай бұрын
Precisely! That's why I believe most of the people pushing flat earth are doing it to sell content and merchandise via UTube. Grifters, making a living off of gullible people that want to be a part of something like a conspiracy. The Body of Christ needs to get busy spreading the Gospel through loving their neighbors as themselves.
@macmac9371
@macmac9371 Ай бұрын
First of all the gospels of Jesus places righteous people on top of the firmament (sea of glass) rev 15:2. You have to know where to go and who calls you up during the time of revelation.
@JoseGarcia-rt3fy
@JoseGarcia-rt3fy Ай бұрын
The Globe has made atheist. The Flat Earth has led former atheist into believers in Christ.
@stevenundzid4765
@stevenundzid4765 Ай бұрын
What amazes me is that someone says they are christian and will believe NASA before the man that walked with God
@flight2k5
@flight2k5 Ай бұрын
Who walked with God and claims it’s flat?
@stevenundzid4765
@stevenundzid4765 Ай бұрын
@@flight2k5 Enoch walked with God and his teachings don't line up with NASA. NASA says we went to the moon do you believe that?
@CalebPaulk
@CalebPaulk Ай бұрын
​@stevenundzid4765 Given that there are photos and videos (one of which can not be faked) of people on the moon.
@stevenundzid4765
@stevenundzid4765 Ай бұрын
@@CalebPaulk Well if you believe we went that's what you believe. But don't you find it odd we cant go back and they lost all the technology
@someone-ke4qj
@someone-ke4qj Ай бұрын
That being said we don't even know if the book of Enoch is the same one, it could've been made in Alexandria or who knows. It's not in the bible for a reason and all the apocrypha is highly dubious to me as well. Does not feel the same.
@Qriusme
@Qriusme Ай бұрын
Just read Genesis 1 with a clean slate wanting to trust in Gods word as truth.
@johnqpublic7608
@johnqpublic7608 Ай бұрын
we can easily verify that the earth is a sphere. so reading any scripture is irrelevant.
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
When we do, we see that it doesn't comment on the shape of the planet. And forbids some of the arguments Flat-Earthers use. (Example, requiring birds to be of the expanse in the same way fish are of the sea, so the expanse includes the atmosphere and can't be a depthless solid-surface sky.)
@mustaffa1611
@mustaffa1611 Ай бұрын
Yes the earth is flat with a dome over it like Genesis says but also in Genesis the snake tells the truth and 'God' is the liar. 'God' said Adam and Eve would die is they ate from the tree and they didn't.
@annep.1905
@annep.1905 Ай бұрын
@@mustaffa1611 Genesis does not say that the earth is flat with a dome.
@mustaffa1611
@mustaffa1611 Ай бұрын
@@annep.1905 it mentions the dome that separates the waters from above and the waters from below.
@kennethhiggins5508
@kennethhiggins5508 Ай бұрын
Heliocentrisism is not biblical cosmology.
@PanhandleFrank
@PanhandleFrank Ай бұрын
The word “cosmology” isn’t in the Bible.
@CanaldoFakeflip
@CanaldoFakeflip Ай бұрын
Exactly. Heliocentrism is a distraction
@msquiggle3590
@msquiggle3590 Ай бұрын
Almost like the Bible gets a lot of stuff wrong
@JesusSaves86AB
@JesusSaves86AB Ай бұрын
​@@msquiggle3590Not thr KJV
@msquiggle3590
@msquiggle3590 Ай бұрын
@@JesusSaves86AB Oh you mean how it says that dinosaurs lived with people or that people lived to be 900 years old or that death didn't exist before someone ate a fruit or that there was a global flood that wiped out everything on earth sans a boat full of animals?
@TAHbKA1980
@TAHbKA1980 Ай бұрын
How about this? “can you, with him, spread out the sky, hard as a cast metal mirror?” ‭‭Iyov (Job)‬ ‭37‬:‭18‬ How about the waters above the firmament? Where are they and what’s holding them ? Where did the flood waters go? The firmament is a firm construction. Why do we need explanations for things? Just like Greeks did in the times of Christ and apostles. How about you just believe the Bible 🤷‍♀️
@farfiman
@farfiman 23 күн бұрын
"Cast metal mirror" just mean clear skies. The were no mirrors like we have today. Most were polished metal.
@itscommonsense3128
@itscommonsense3128 Ай бұрын
DOESNT GOD SAY WE CANNOT MEASURE THE ENDS OF THE EARTH OR KNOW ITS DEPTH THEREOF ECT?
@johnqpublic7608
@johnqpublic7608 Ай бұрын
clearly the bible is not correct about everything.
@Starbuckin
@Starbuckin Ай бұрын
@@johnqpublic7608 You're gonna find out one day that you don't have a clue and never did.
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
Where? And who, Job, or all people in the future?
@johnqpublic7608
@johnqpublic7608 Ай бұрын
@@Starbuckin sorry child, but it's trivially easy to verify the spherical size and shape of the earth with nothing more than high school math. smart people figured it out more than two millennia ago. today it's kids level stuff. the only people that you can fool about the shape of the earth are the deluded dunces that fall for the flattardia hoax in the first place.
@onlyupdoots7157
@onlyupdoots7157 Ай бұрын
Yes: Proverbs 25:3 KJV - The heaven for height, and the earth for depth, and the heart of kings is unsearchable.
@stevekelton2937
@stevekelton2937 Ай бұрын
The word ball is in the Bible. I believe God knows the difference between a ball and a circle. He also says the earth is immovable, and i believe God's Word over man.
@paulcurran4786
@paulcurran4786 Ай бұрын
Craic Jack 😄✌
@JosiahK555
@JosiahK555 Ай бұрын
It says we can't move the earth. Doesn't say the earth doesn't move. Even if it did. We know it moves. It's measurable. Observable. And no fe theory actually holds up under scrutiny.
@Cienciasbiblicas9536
@Cienciasbiblicas9536 Ай бұрын
Esfera en hebreo es Kadur כדור
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
And it says David was immoveable, and that an army surrounded a camp in the shape of a "ball" (duwr/dur). I like to believe the entirety of God's Word, not cherrypicked reinterpretations.
@SamuelQuaye-zs4uc
@SamuelQuaye-zs4uc Ай бұрын
Thank you
@firmbeliever3847
@firmbeliever3847 Ай бұрын
Sun moon stars IN the firmament! How do you not understand that. Joshua told sun & moon to stand still NOT earth. Does God's footstool move? To believe the earth is a moving sphere is elementary.
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
Firmament is a mistranslation. In the expanse wouldn't be a problem for us if space is included in expanse (I think it is, but "in" also might be like our modern "in the sky"). And in Einsteinian physics, which AiG accepts, everything is at rest in its own reference frame in a sense.
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
For Joshua, would God need to demand that he speak in literal modern terms and from the sun's reference frame? Why? He's on the Earth. God didn't need to teach him cosmology to do what he prayed for, however he did. Also Glenn Miller has shown that more likely doesn't mean the length of daylight was longer than normal, but not shorter, which they thought it would be due to the storm (remember the hail?). Even if wrong, phenomenal language is normal in the Bible, so to argue based on that is circular reasoning. Like if we say it's raining cats and dogs, you run to the window and scream "WHERE?! I DON'T SEE NO CATS OR DOGS FALLING FROM THE SKY! I JUST SEE RAIN!"
@johnqpublic7608
@johnqpublic7608 Ай бұрын
probably because there is no such thing as the "firmament".
@johnqpublic7608
@johnqpublic7608 Ай бұрын
_"To believe the earth is a moving sphere is elementary."_ it is elementary, precisely because it is so easy to verify.
@firmbeliever3847
@firmbeliever3847 Ай бұрын
@@johnqpublic7608 How? Its never been verified. NASA's "pictures", LOL. Look into it youll see just like i did. Keep in mind they taught both of us the same thing in school, i know what you know.
@ShopharTemple
@ShopharTemple Ай бұрын
All i know is, God's creation is absolutely amazing. I will never be in a position where i will be able to see it for myself. But, when the Lord calls us into the clouds to ever be with Him, i will try to remember to look back and finally know for sure. The only important thing anyone needs to know, is that the Lord Jesus Christ died for our sin, and rose again the third day to give us eternal life with Him.
@Procopius464
@Procopius464 Ай бұрын
The shape of the earth is not a mystery. You don't have to wait for God to fly up into the clouds, there are airplanes you can get in. Only toddlers and idiots don't understand that the Earth is round. They knew it in the medieval period, and earlier.
@2besavedcom-7
@2besavedcom-7 Ай бұрын
What do you mean by "look back"? If you're saved and get taken up to "meet Yahshua in the air," you'll be coming straight back to the new earth and new heavens.
@sheilacape4794
@sheilacape4794 Ай бұрын
Your not gonna want to look back!!!
@annep.1905
@annep.1905 Ай бұрын
You can know for sure now. The earth is a sphere.
@RAS556
@RAS556 Ай бұрын
All you know? It's not that hard. In fact, globism is a 1000% easier to deal with than any other modern deception grounded in the realm of emperical debate. Every common sense emperical experice you personally have had has only shown you a flat and level horizon. The onus is on globers to give me one good and emperical invincible reason to think I live on a ball, a ball where objects that disappear over a "curve" can be brought back into focus with a zoom lenz, a ball but where all observable water is level, a ball that no-one has ever circumnavigated north to south, a ball where no one is allowed to get close to or travel past the ice wall that encircles us, a ball of which we have no actual, real, authentic, unmanipulated picture, a ball that is now quickly becoming "oblong" and a "closed system" and where we have never gone back to the moon because "we lost the data". You can figure this out. You can know. Be courageous today when you are still outnumbered in the nose count, but tomorrow (10 to 15 years) flat earth will be as mainstream as creation.
@KittyClark4433
@KittyClark4433 Ай бұрын
Lets not get caught up in distractions. I have seen info on both sides. Its interesting to think about different things. BUT make no mistake, our salvation is in Jesus alone. Lets keep our eyes on Him.
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 Ай бұрын
When it comes to the map of Earth both sides use, they are identical... Yes, salvation is in our Savior, but flatearth is satanic deception that separates believers from Him.
@qwerty-so6ml
@qwerty-so6ml Ай бұрын
@@tjjones621 Only one Gospel: The Gospel of Reconciliation. Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself. We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness. If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever. Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of ELOHIM(gods). REPENT FALLEN ANGELS.
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 Ай бұрын
@@qwerty-so6ml I've made no such claims either way. The best advice I can give you is to consider it's possible you are being misled...
@qwerty-so6ml
@qwerty-so6ml Ай бұрын
@@tjjones621 Titus 3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Shalom.
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 Ай бұрын
@@qwerty-so6ml Anyone who claims the globe Earth is Satan's lie is complicit in that lie every time they use a map for turn by turn directions. Prove me a heretic...
@kennethhiggins5508
@kennethhiggins5508 Ай бұрын
Look, most flat earthers must appreciate the fact that they were where this guy is at one time. If he continues to pursue this he may eventually come around and then again he may not. You must admit at first it is a shock to your world veiw. Especially if you been indoctrinated in it
@whompittoya
@whompittoya Ай бұрын
So what I watched is a “preacher” explaining Gods creation using everything BUT the Word of God. Interesting.
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
Where did he call himself a preacher? He's a scientist.
@vld7850
@vld7850 Ай бұрын
EXACTLY!
@keeptrying2understand62
@keeptrying2understand62 Ай бұрын
Exactly. I thought that was very weird too.
@annep.1905
@annep.1905 Ай бұрын
@@keeptrying2understand62 That's because this is taken from a much longer video in which he does quote the Bible as well. It's also to draw viewers, which is not the best policy, but then Christians are not always using the best policy when it comes to attempting to draw viewers.
@jasonnordin
@jasonnordin Ай бұрын
He’s using science to support the *proper* comprehension of God’s Word to *primarily* address “professing Christians” who have taken God’s Word *out of context* to have a *false* comprehension of God’s Word
@tjammer21
@tjammer21 Ай бұрын
I like how KZfaq slaps the ol' "Context, Flat Earth, Wikipedia" thing on this just based on the title. Obviously if they'd watched the video, they'd know it wasn't needed. In fact, it's never needed, never heeded.
@kristinp4711
@kristinp4711 Ай бұрын
YT slapping a “correction” on this video should be proof it’s flat just with that lol.
@johnqpublic7608
@johnqpublic7608 Ай бұрын
@@kristinp4711 yes, because all the dullards want to pretend that they are "skeptical" of authority.
@wapper7777
@wapper7777 Ай бұрын
@@kristinp4711honestly you have a point…
@GhostScout42
@GhostScout42 Ай бұрын
@@kristinp4711 so now be base our worldview on what youtube believes?
@ronaldraygun3591
@ronaldraygun3591 Ай бұрын
@@GhostScout42base it on what they don’t want you to believe, break free.
@pam2viph
@pam2viph Ай бұрын
I don't understand the purpose of the music in the background. it's distracting
@jtjjbannie
@jtjjbannie Ай бұрын
@@razark9 If you are trying for stupidest comment of the year award, you are off to a great start.
@ElizabethRussell144
@ElizabethRussell144 Ай бұрын
I like it : )
@icouldbewrongbutithink5279
@icouldbewrongbutithink5279 Ай бұрын
@@razark9I watch videos in 2x speed and the music has no affect. You have an axe to grind clearly, but I would remind you all forms of information is a form of brainwashing.
@ruthmayforth5933
@ruthmayforth5933 Ай бұрын
Both the type of the music and its volume distracted from the message and made it very hard to hear and concetrate on, I agree.
@cherylcogan3542
@cherylcogan3542 Ай бұрын
Yes, I also found it very distracting and hard to listen to. Their other videos, at least I haven't found any, don't have any music and much easier to listen to, would like to turn off this background music, way too loud.
@Derkbot37
@Derkbot37 Ай бұрын
Even some pilots are coming out now saying they don’t adjust their flight for the curvature of the earth. The devil is a liar.
@Zodiac4711
@Zodiac4711 Ай бұрын
No, they simply remain at the same altitude and it automatically follows the curvature of the earth.
@Derkbot37
@Derkbot37 Ай бұрын
@@Zodiac4711 there is no adjustment downward. To stay at the same altitude you would have to always be slightly adjusting downward so to maintain the altitude. Pilots don’t do this.
@nikorn24
@nikorn24 Ай бұрын
​@@Derkbot37 That's not how planes work 😂
@CalebPaulk
@CalebPaulk Ай бұрын
​@Derkbot37 No you wouldn't. Gravity makes the adjustment for you.
@Zodiac4711
@Zodiac4711 Ай бұрын
@@Derkbot37 "there is no adjustment downward." A pilot constantly adjusts speed, direction and altitude. Do you really think they don't touch the control stick for hours? Ask a pilot or watch the videos by Wolfie6020.
@blueskyfanclub
@blueskyfanclub Ай бұрын
What does Faulkner say about water always finding it’s level when undisturbed? You cannot get water to curve over any curved surface…no experiment has ever shown that it’s possible.
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
Begs the question of whether gravity is attraction to mass. Basically your argument circularly assumes Flat-Eartherism to argue for Flat-Eartherism. If gravity attracts mass, just as we see it doing everywhere we can look (like wrapping Jupiter into a sphere with moons spinning around it, like Earth sphere with its moon), then water finding a level HAS to be "curved" around the spherical planet.
@blueskyfanclub
@blueskyfanclub Ай бұрын
@@logicianbones gravity is a theory and not a very good one either. Gravity is responsible for holding trillions of tons of water against a centrifugal force of a spinning ball, and yet allows bugs, birds and seeds to float in the air. Density and buoyancy and the electrostatic energy answers the questions of up and down, not the science fiction of gravity. As far as Jupiter and moons, those are lights in the firmament. No one has been or can go there to view them.
@2besavedcom-7
@2besavedcom-7 Ай бұрын
You're confusing the term "level" with "flat." Read the comment above and then google some pictures Lake Pontchartrain Bridge which was built to the Earth's curve (most are too short to take curvature into account) and is clearly visible.
@blueskyfanclub
@blueskyfanclub Ай бұрын
@@2besavedcom-7 no it wasn’t built to the curve of the earth. That is a lie. I’ve seen the debate, I’ve seen the pictures. Evidently, you’ve seen only one side of this debate and you choose to believe it without investigating. Go bring up the bridge in China…the longest bridge, and look at those pictures…no curve at all. Btw, take a drive on any of those long bridges…you will not detect an 8” per mile squared curve, which is the calculation for the curve of the earth.
@blueskyfanclub
@blueskyfanclub Ай бұрын
@@logicianbones I’m being censored here…I commented to you, and my comment is not here. Why the censoring??
@JoseGarcia-rt3fy
@JoseGarcia-rt3fy Ай бұрын
Some how nasa is the only government agency that doesn't lie
@cryptojihadi265
@cryptojihadi265 Ай бұрын
CLASSIC Flerf idiocracy. The Globe model is 2500 YEARS OLD. LONNNNNNG before NASA was created. The Heliocentric model is over 500 YEARS OLD, ALSO well before NASA. The fact that you can't see such an OBVIOUS flaw in your argument, lets us know EXACTLY why you fell for the demonic flat earth hoax.
@cryptojihadi265
@cryptojihadi265 Ай бұрын
@@RidgewayMountainhauser Not too mention completely irrelevant as both models were established HUNDREDS of years before NASA.
@JoseGarcia-rt3fy
@JoseGarcia-rt3fy Ай бұрын
@@cryptojihadi265 yes ,but pilots flight manuals even today say they are based a stationary plain
@charlespoe5155
@charlespoe5155 Ай бұрын
Or their own document 1207 that states in the summary of its 100 pages about how aircraft flies over a flat, non rotating earth. For over 50 years they say we are on a ball earth. Which is it?
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy Ай бұрын
@@cryptojihadi265 Flat earth has only been around for less that 200 years. Hardly hundreds before NASA.
@kangjames2492
@kangjames2492 Ай бұрын
The lights being round in your house doesn't make your house round. This will fool a lot of people who haven't done there research and are new to this. He is being deceptive and is a gate keeper from truth.
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy Ай бұрын
What are you babbling about?
@kangjames2492
@kangjames2492 Ай бұрын
@libertyresearch-iu4fy Educate yourself and don't regurgitate what a lifetime of indoctrination has poisoned you with.
@kangjames2492
@kangjames2492 Ай бұрын
@libertyresearch-iu4fy The is flat, and God's true creation is being hidden from us in plane sight. We see that the stars are fixed and close. We see the sun and moon travel in a circuit above us. We see that water finds its own level and is flat. With 70 % of this place, we call earth, being water, makes the nature of earth the same "flat and level" with on the land being above sea "level." All the seas/oceans are connected, making them all level and exact to each other.
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 28 күн бұрын
The devil twists scripture, what you see with your eyes will always be true. And scripture will match what you see, because it is true. You are the one being deceived.
@kangjames2492
@kangjames2492 28 күн бұрын
@Yipper64 The scriptures support the earth being flat. The earth is circular and not a sphere. The bible says the earth is fixed and unmoveble and on pillars. The bible says there is water above and below. The bible says that the sky is solid and hard like a molton looking glass and that there is water above it. The bible says that there is water beneath and everywhere you go on earth, If you dig deep enough, you get water. The bible says that the stars are fixed in the firmament. The bible says that the sun and moon travel in a circuit above us. There are tons more if you are looking for the actual truth..... Look up " 200 proofs the earth is not a spinning ball" by Eric Dubay on KZfaq. There is a lot of junk info designed to mislead. Start with this Doc if you wanna be awakened.
@IAMhassentyou
@IAMhassentyou Ай бұрын
Titus 3:5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, Ephesians 2:8,9 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith- and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. John 3:6-18 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
@joshbenton4080
@joshbenton4080 Ай бұрын
Amen!
@jahk603
@jahk603 Ай бұрын
@MilTec.b "There is no such thing as gravitation pull, we lied to you." - Michio Kaku. I wouldn't be trusting the words of lying godless men who hate Jesus when it comes to what they have to say about anything; let alone where you live and what God does.
@zybyz
@zybyz Ай бұрын
@MilTec.b”He commanded, and it STOOD FAST” - psalm 33:9. That means “stood still”. According to the Bible, the earth does not move. God made the sun stop moving in the sky. It doesn’t say he stopped the earth from moving. It says the sun stopped. Stop calling God a liar.
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
​@@zybyz It also said it "did not hasten". Which is literal? Did it stop from left to right, or merely not speed up? See other threads. It has nothing to do with lies. Nonliteral language isn't a "lie". Is Jesus a loaf of bread?
@lynettesmith6635
@lynettesmith6635 Ай бұрын
So you are going to keep trying to debunk the Bible with human agendas? Not a good idea.
@grant6173
@grant6173 Ай бұрын
Agendas? Does the Bible mention McDonald's or Walmart. Do they exist? What about microwave ovens? What about you?
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy 27 күн бұрын
You believe your own human agenda, which is pretty stupid if you ask me.
@central3425
@central3425 10 күн бұрын
Flat earth is an atheist's lie. Don't believe it
@JoseGarcia-rt3fy
@JoseGarcia-rt3fy Ай бұрын
The whole point of the rainbow is to let us know that the firmament is up there holding back the waters from flooding the earth again
@paulcurran4786
@paulcurran4786 Ай бұрын
Which also tells us the firmament is between us and the sun....
@travisbicklepopsicle
@travisbicklepopsicle Ай бұрын
That's the purpose of rainbows? Do you know what causes rainbows to form?
@paulcurran4786
@paulcurran4786 Ай бұрын
@@travisbicklepopsicle It's not the purpose of rainbows, it's how they come to be and how we know they weren't there before. If they were there before, the promise God made to Noah wouldn't have any weight to it, it'd be like if he said "this tree is my promise", wouldn't give any solace to Noah. The suns light passing through the firmament causes the light to slow down and separate into its elemental colours, that spectrum is then displayed on the rain that acts like a canvas....works much like a projector & screen. This doesn't work in FE with the sun being inside the dome.
@JoseGarcia-rt3fy
@JoseGarcia-rt3fy Ай бұрын
@@paulcurran4786 actually it only works on the FE model .Light has to pass through water then hit a reflection .you can do the experiment indoors all you need is a bowl of water, a mirror at the bottom and a light shining through the water hiting the mirror. If you want the color spectrum like a rainbow you will need a curved mirror. Outdoors we have the curved FIRMAMENT for that.
@JoseGarcia-rt3fy
@JoseGarcia-rt3fy Ай бұрын
@paulcurran4786 actually it only works on the FE model .Light has to pass through water then hit a reflection .you can do the experiment indoors all you need is a bowl of water, a mirror at the bottom and a light shining through the water hiting the mirror. If you want the color spectrum like a rainbow you will need a curved mirror. Outdoors we have the curved FIRMAMENT for that.
@ig00g1e
@ig00g1e 29 күн бұрын
Evolution, materialism, and NASA is one cohesive system and message. It must be frustrating keeping your feet in both systems and trying to put them together. Come out of them my people.
@katamas832
@katamas832 29 күн бұрын
Those have *literally* nothing to do with each other, and can be held without one another. But okay
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy 27 күн бұрын
Why don't you quit worshiping your pancake?
@mindsetmatters370
@mindsetmatters370 Ай бұрын
Actually, I have a book which is based on Flat Earth theory proposed by leading Scientists as far back as 1800s. One of these scientists was the British Astronomer Royal [the Head Man so to speak]. So your contention that this is a very recent "phenomenon" is incorrect. In addition the arguments put forth in this book are very compelling. Just saying that perhaps a more objective approach would be more helpful if we are to get the the truth?
@dorvinion
@dorvinion Ай бұрын
It is a recent phenomenon. I've been a heavy internet user for 30 years now. I didn't see flat earth nonsense anywhere until after 2016. Its emergence cannot be organic. Some malevolent entity (government intelligence services most likely) has to be behind it
@alflat885
@alflat885 Ай бұрын
True and keep researching, it is flat, as the bible describes many times. Watch Bob Skiba , The Potter's Clay, Taboo Conspiracy iii, DITRH, Paul on the Plane, Eric Dubay.
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
He's talking about the uptick in its popularity. This is a short summary vid. He and others talk about Flat-Earthers existing in older times, including two Medieval. Maybe his wording here could have been clearer, but you're misunderstanding what he's trying to say clearly based on that past context.
@johnqpublic7608
@johnqpublic7608 Ай бұрын
@@alflat885 stop spamming flattard conmen.
@johnqpublic7608
@johnqpublic7608 Ай бұрын
i bet he wasn't "the head man". i bet he was a fringe religious loony.
@markksargent
@markksargent Ай бұрын
Long Live Flat Earth, truly. Do your own research, ask questions, open your mind to the truth. All the world is a stage, built by God.
@christopheespic
@christopheespic Ай бұрын
"open your mind".... Try and open your eyes instead 🙄.
@jonnycake30
@jonnycake30 Ай бұрын
All the world is a stage is quote from a Shakespearean play. You're the uneducated one.
@matthewmcdevitt6792
@matthewmcdevitt6792 Ай бұрын
@@christopheespic I did -- I see no evidence with my eyes for Globe Earth. With a Nikon P90 one can see WAY too far according to the official figures for drop off. And no, "refraction" is not a magical fairy that erases the curve like a Photoshop tool.
@sliglusamelius8578
@sliglusamelius8578 Ай бұрын
@@christopheespic He's trolling. Nobody believes in a flat earth, not even so-called flat earthers, who are faking it. Seriously, they have to be trolls.
@vld7850
@vld7850 Ай бұрын
@@matthewmcdevitt6792 TRUE!
@solidtruth-sn8mp
@solidtruth-sn8mp 12 күн бұрын
.....The Fact that this topic is still talked about proves that TRUTH is ultimately going to come out..... TRUTH is we don't live on a spinning ball, the Earth is still and Motionless, it only moves during earthquake, water finds its -----level---- there is a term....... Sea Level------water is always flat. The Earth will always remain Flat.
@nikorn24
@nikorn24 12 күн бұрын
Actually, the only reason that this topic is still talked about is because it's easy to spread misinformation (like flat earth nonsense) using the internet, and there is always going to be a small number of people gullible and uneducated enough to believe it. For example, you seem to be under the impression that the term sea level has something to do with flatness, when it must definitely does not, but you heard some other flat earthers mention it and so now you do to. That's kind of how it works 😂
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 11 күн бұрын
You use the same map of Earth all the globies use to navigate. Me thinks you are being a hypocrite.
@joetomgizzledancer
@joetomgizzledancer Ай бұрын
Isaiah used the word "circle" in ch. 40:22, but used the word "ball" in ch. 22:18. Why do people always skip over that fact. He knew the difference between the two words but wrote them as he did. So the point @11:00 mark is not a very good disproof.
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 Ай бұрын
Because the word circle in 40:22 is used in a phrase "circle OF Earth" which can mean a flat disk or anything circular including a ball shape. A sphere is a three dimensional circle. In 22:18 it reads "..and toss thee like a ball .." "Ball" here is a direct simile. Yes, He knows the difference, but man doesn't always get grammar correct.
@onlyupdoots7157
@onlyupdoots7157 Ай бұрын
You are correct. Strong's H2329 circle, circuit, compass. Clear as day.
@joeythebushkangaroo1
@joeythebushkangaroo1 Ай бұрын
Moses was inspired by Holy Spirit to use the word CIRCLE for the Sun at Job 26:10, yet we know the Sun is a sphere...
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 Ай бұрын
@@onlyupdoots7157 Yes, no doubt about it, the word is circle... but the phrase is "circle of Earth." He is reading it as "the circle earth."
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 Ай бұрын
@@joeythebushkangaroo1 They just can't understand that a circle doesn't exist in reality and is only a 2D geometric concept. There are no circles because they only have 2 dimensions. There are only circular 3D objects... like balls and hoola hoops and pizzas. smh
@vjench1836
@vjench1836 Ай бұрын
Explain that to me now pastor and please don't tell me Joshua didn't know how the universe was - He spoke to the Lord in the presence of Israel Joshua 10:12 On the day that the LORD gave the Amorites over to the Israelites, Joshua spoke to the LORD in the presence of Israel: “O sun, stand still over Gibeon, O moon, over the Valley of Aijalon.” 13So the sun stood still and the moon stopped until the nation took vengeance upon its enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? “So the sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day.” 14There has been no day like it before or since, when the LORD listened to the voice of a man, because the LORD fought for Israel.…
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy 27 күн бұрын
God did it, and Earth is spherical. Just go back to worshiping your pancake, flattard.
@ShopharTemple
@ShopharTemple Ай бұрын
They say the earth is rotating around the sun in an oval shape path. But then the sun is 400 times bigger than the moon, and 400 times further away than the moon and that's how we get an eclipse because they're both the perfect size. But if the path is an oval, the size of the sun in our sky would change throughout the year. Also, how could the sun be 400 times bigger than the moon, but millions of times the size of the earth at the same time? Isn't the moon smaller than the earth? That math ain't mathing
@katamas832
@katamas832 Ай бұрын
The distance throughout the orbit doesn't change to matter significantly. It's still enough to roughly cover the Sun. No, the Earth can *fit* inside the Sun millions of times, that's a different measure to size. The size we are talking about in one case is 2 dimensions, and 3 dimensions in the other.
@galileog8945
@galileog8945 Ай бұрын
Google has what you want to know. It is amazing. You will find out in 5 minutes.
@seanvogel8067
@seanvogel8067 Ай бұрын
The eccentricity of the earth's orbit around the sun is 0.0167, so it is almost circular. Earth is 93 million miles from the sun and the sun is 864,000 miles in diameter.
@JosiahK555
@JosiahK555 Ай бұрын
The variation in distance is not significant. It's close to a circle but certainly not a circle... sometimes the moon might not cover the whole sun. This is called an anular eclipse. The moon is slightly further from the earth and appears slightly smaller.
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 28 күн бұрын
how often do you look directly at the sun to judge its size?
@JoseGarcia-rt3fy
@JoseGarcia-rt3fy Ай бұрын
Actually the earh is compared to a foot stool (flat). Not once is earth compared to a ball yet it is mentioned in Isaiah 22:18 to describe something else.
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy Ай бұрын
Yeah, and Heaven is a throne then reality sets it that this is poetic language. DERP
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 28 күн бұрын
So like a literal foot stool? Where is the throne? LIke is that a physical thing as well? We have good enough telescopes we should be able to see the throne for witch the earth is a foot stool. Why hasnt God used the earth as a foot stool yet by the way? Why havnt we seen God's giant feet?
@JoseGarcia-rt3fy
@JoseGarcia-rt3fy 28 күн бұрын
@Yipper64 stars and wandering stars are within the firmament. I don't think anyone has seen above the firmament. A throne is a symbol of a king's or queen's authority, power, and claim to rule, and can also represent both divine and secular rule. A foot stool is a physical object. Earth is a physical place those who do believe in the FE it would make sense for it to be discibed as God's foot stool and not a ball.
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy 28 күн бұрын
@@JoseGarcia-rt3fy The expanse is billions of light years across. The firmament is the Universe, skippy.
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 28 күн бұрын
@@JoseGarcia-rt3fy So a throne is not a physical object, but a foot stool is. I guess seats dont exist. Makes sense to me.
@kathyweckerle6880
@kathyweckerle6880 Ай бұрын
Isaiah 40:22 refers to the “circle of the earth”. CIRCLE - a round PLANE figure whose boundary (the circumference) consists of points equidistant from a fixed point (the center). PLANE - a flat surface on which a straight line joining any two points on it would wholly lie. FACE - In solid geometry, a face is a flat surface (a planar region) that forms part of the boundary of a solid object The Bible, God’s written word, uses these terms of geometry (Circle and Face) in context of earth, dry land. Romans 3:4 KJV [4] God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
@ceedee873
@ceedee873 Ай бұрын
Amen!
@PanhandleFrank
@PanhandleFrank Ай бұрын
Circles don’t have corners. Try again.
@kehindeakiode2865
@kehindeakiode2865 Ай бұрын
Your point was addressed in the video.
@burnttoast2790
@burnttoast2790 Ай бұрын
@@PanhandleFrank If I recall correctly that verse could just as easily by described as quadrants. But then again, the biblical authors were the sort of people to think pi was equal to 3, so maybe they _did_ think circles could have corners.
@PanhandleFrank
@PanhandleFrank Ай бұрын
@@burnttoast2790 Pi IS equal to 3. 3.1. 3.14 3.142 3.1416 3.14159 You smell what I’m cookin’?
@IAMhassentyou
@IAMhassentyou Ай бұрын
Acts 4:12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.” John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Matthew 8:18-22 18 When Jesus saw the crowd around him, he gave orders to cross to the other side of the lake. 19 Then a teacher of the law came to him and said, “Teacher, I will follow you wherever you go.” 20 Jesus replied, “Foxes have dens and birds have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head.” 21 Another disciple said to him, “Lord, first let me go and bury my father.” 22 But Jesus told him, “Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead.”
@iriemon1796
@iriemon1796 Ай бұрын
How do you know the Bible is accurate? You just believe it. Belief =/= fact.
@IAMhassentyou
@IAMhassentyou Ай бұрын
@@iriemon1796 why would you ask a question then answer it yourself? You seem to be so well-informed you shouldn't be asking any questions. 😆
@iriemon1796
@iriemon1796 Ай бұрын
@@IAMhassentyou Thanks for confirming my point. Why would you make a statement of fact that is simply what you choose to believe?
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
​@@iriemon1796 Strawman. We "test everything" as it orders, and see that it's proven.
@iriemon1796
@iriemon1796 Ай бұрын
@@logicianbones What is the "strawman", who is "we", what do you test, and what does that have to do with the accuracy of the Bible?
@dustinrollings9440
@dustinrollings9440 Ай бұрын
"We've always beleived that the Earth was made before the sun. Several days before the sun. That's not a problem." - Dr. Danny Faulkner
@zerosteel0123
@zerosteel0123 Ай бұрын
That's what the Bible teaches. What's the problem?
@IAMhassentyou
@IAMhassentyou Ай бұрын
The Bible is pretty clear on that. We are Christians who stand on the Bible. The problem is what, exactly? 🤔
@IAMhassentyou
@IAMhassentyou Ай бұрын
On the fourth day, God created the sun, the moon and the stars. He created the earth on days 2 and 3. Genesis 1:6-13 Then God said, "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." 7 Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day. 9 Then God said, "Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear"; and it was so. 10 And God called the dry land Earth, and the gathering together of the waters He called Seas. And God saw that it was good. 11 Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth"; and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13 So the evening and the morning were the third day.
@abelincoln.2064
@abelincoln.2064 Ай бұрын
And it isn't. God created the Universe over 4 days ... starting day 1 with an empty Universe & Earth .. and then a bright Light .. that completely surrounding the Earth. Over four days the bright light darkened and forced the stars in the space of the Universe ... and then God created the Sun, moon and rest of the Solar System ... and put Earth into its orbit ... producing a 24 hour day and a year. The Light at Day 1 .. was all the energy & matter .... of the Universe in hollow sphere surrounding tiny Earth at the center. And over 4 days ... at greater than the speed of light ... this energy "expanded" away from the Earth forming the stars, galaxies, planets etc ... and filling the empty space of the Universe. This is why we have the redshift data and Cosmic Mircrowave background Radiate ... the flatness of the Universe ... and the same background temperature in all directions. The expansion and formation of the the objects in the Universe ... was over 4 days ... energy sphere surrounding Earth. And the Universe is not still expanding ... due death, decay & the speed of light started at the fall of Man, but Gravity that influences the the velocity of light ... was still present during the 4 day expansion. So we are seeing the remnants of 4 day expansion .. which appears to show the Universe still expanding. It is not..
@dustinrollings9440
@dustinrollings9440 Ай бұрын
@@IAMhassentyou There is ample evidence that demonstrates the sun existed first, and the earth formed millions of years later. We know how solar systems form, and it’s not planets first in the course of a few literal 24 hour periods. You have a book of spells, curses, and blood magic that tells a story.
@ff144k
@ff144k Ай бұрын
sorry. the earth is measurably flat.
@daddy4934
@daddy4934 Ай бұрын
"The Earth is measurably flat" Awesome. So now please pick two distant coordinates anywhere on Earth and show me how you'd calculate the distance between them. I need to see your maths.
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy Ай бұрын
Do you have a 25 mile tape measure?
@Madcow7777
@Madcow7777 25 күн бұрын
If it were flat every single plane time table we currently have would be wrong. Every plane time table you see says it’s an oblate sphere. It’s hard to get passed the mountains of evidence. All those time tables are very precicicely measured
@ff144k
@ff144k 25 күн бұрын
@Madcow7777 what is plane time table? time zone? time zones are locally decided. ever been to China?
@daddy4934
@daddy4934 25 күн бұрын
@@ff144k So you meant to say there is no accurate FE map and you couldn't calculate the shortest flight path between two distant coordinates anywhere on Earth. Problem solved, you lied, Earth isn't measurably flat.
@ismaellopezlara
@ismaellopezlara Ай бұрын
What was Earth orbiting around during days 1, 2, and 3 of Creation Week? Because the sun was not created until day 4. That right there in Genesis 1, who you claim to believe, debunks heliocentrism.
@kevinskinner4986
@kevinskinner4986 Ай бұрын
Of course it does. Assuming that that actually happened. Actually wait..... if God's all-powerful, couldn't he just..... make the Earth revolve around nothing?
@annep.1905
@annep.1905 Ай бұрын
Might just as well ask where the light came from on days 1, 2, and 3. The absence of the Sun on those days does not disprove a heliocentric solar system. It merely proves that God did not need the Sun to set the earth in motion.
@hesavedawretchlikeme6902
@hesavedawretchlikeme6902 Ай бұрын
We don't know exactly how the earth stood there, God is sovereign and hangs the earth on nothing according to His word He has told us. He asked Job many of the same questions here in the later chapters of that book. Why are all the other heavenly bodies (planets) spheres? Why do all the other countries see the earth as a globe with their telescopes, or photos from their satellites? Is anything impossible with Our Lord God? ....no
@ajforms4818
@ajforms4818 Ай бұрын
supremely lame , and easily one of the most ignorant things I have ever read.
@peterwiebewall5608
@peterwiebewall5608 Ай бұрын
Greetings dearly beloved in the name of Jesus Christ our Saviour and Lord, from Pastor Peter Wiebe Wall, Alberta Canada 🇨🇦.
@johnqpublic7608
@johnqpublic7608 Ай бұрын
do you have a lot of flat earth dunces in canada?
@susettemclachlan8765
@susettemclachlan8765 17 күн бұрын
This is not about the legitimacy of the ministry of Answers in Genesis. This is about believing the Bible (fully supported by the laws of physics and our daily experience of reality) and believing God’s Word over man’s. My Bible is a Flat earth book. And since God opened my eyes to this truth I have FE marked in the margins of my Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and nothing can make me unsee it all over God’s Word, now that I do
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 16 күн бұрын
Your Bible is not a flat earth book. No verse in any version, including yours, says Earth is "flat" while there are others that say sphere, ball and globe. Even "the circle of the earth" in Isaiah 40:22 proves the Earth is a sphere. Your map confirms. So, if you think the globe Earth is Satan's lie, you are complicit in that lie every time you need turn by turn directions.
@cathygray4454
@cathygray4454 Ай бұрын
And I think this is one of these divisive tactics the enemy uses to further separate the church from itself, one another
@moogle_k
@moogle_k Ай бұрын
The truth is divisive. luke 12:51 "Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:” If someone is offended by the truth, then they are more comfortable with lies. Who's the father of lies again?
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy Ай бұрын
@@moogle_k You wouldn't know truth if it broke your nose.
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 Ай бұрын
Exactly. Flatearthers turn unbelievers off to the possibility of being converted.
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 Ай бұрын
@@moogle_k How would you know? You use the globe map to drive around and tell people Earth is flat. We know you by your fruits.
@nathanmyers8122
@nathanmyers8122 Ай бұрын
The whole world will see christ return ..kinda hard on a round earth...
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 Ай бұрын
Supernatural events don't rely on Earthly substances.
@central3425
@central3425 10 күн бұрын
Not hard at all if the glory of god envelopes the whole earth SPHERE. Don't believe the flat earth nonsense, it was started by atheists' to trick Christians.
@SK-bw2cv
@SK-bw2cv Ай бұрын
Ancient Sources (AIG) Ancient sources, such as Aristotle, also mentioned that the hulls of ships disappeared before their masts did as ships sailed away. This would happen only if the earth is spherical. Without optical aid, this is difficult to see. However, one easily can see a related effect. If one is perched atop the mast of the ship, one can spot land or other ships before people on the deck can. This is why spotters often were placed in a crow’s nest high above a ship’s deck. If the earth were flat, there would be no advantage to being above the deck. A similar thing can be observed on land. The Door Peninsula in Wisconsin forms the eastern shore of Green Bay. The distance across Green Bay from the northern portion of the Door Peninsula to Northern Michigan is more than twenty miles. Looking across Green Bay from the beach on the west side of the Door Peninsula, one cannot see Northern Michigan. However, if one ascends the bluffs above the beach, one can see the shoreline of Northern Michigan. This is possible only if the earth is spherical.
@Maxim.Teleguz
@Maxim.Teleguz Ай бұрын
@Nemesistyxso many people just want to be ignorant and ignore facts it’s crazy.
@Maxim.Teleguz
@Maxim.Teleguz Ай бұрын
Are you going to conduct the research 🔬 on perception or will you keep your comment up with the ignorance you are displaying.
@johnqpublic7608
@johnqpublic7608 Ай бұрын
@Nemesistyx _"The wheels start to appear hidden..."_ stop lying. why are all flattards such deceitful pieces of excrement?
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
​@Nemesistyx Um, no they don't. Not unless you're putting your eye BELOW the desk's surface, which would more closely approximate a (poor) analogy for the spherical model. In the Flat model that isn't supposed to happen. For flat water they have to appeal to light bending, same as we do for temperature inversions -- but ours actually is proven.
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
​@Nemesistyx So you conceded your other argument? They argue the firmament is a solid surface far above, so it couldn't bend light down here. The ones I've seen say instead that the atmosphere bends it or some other magical effect, not the "firmament" (which is a mistranslation anyway, as raqia, expanse, has birds "of" it in the same way fish are of waters, so clearly it actually would include the atmosphere, so you would be saying the EXPANSE bends the light! Yet Flatters object when we say that for temperature inversions...).
@CanaldoFakeflip
@CanaldoFakeflip Ай бұрын
Earth takes shape like clay under a seal. Sounds pretty flat to me
@nikorn24
@nikorn24 Ай бұрын
But it's not flat though. I guess that means the bible is just wrong 🤔
@CanaldoFakeflip
@CanaldoFakeflip Ай бұрын
@@nikorn24 You are free to believe whoever you like. I stick with God's words.
@nikorn24
@nikorn24 Ай бұрын
​@@CanaldoFakeflipStick with god's words all you like, they're still wrong 🤷
@Farmer4Truth
@Farmer4Truth Ай бұрын
@@nikorn24The Word of God is never wrong, but it’s up to you to either believe what it says or dismiss it as not literal.
@nikorn24
@nikorn24 Ай бұрын
@@Farmer4Truth Well if that word is "the earth is flat" then it quite literally is wrong 😂 Sorry
@RudyKelmendi
@RudyKelmendi 24 күн бұрын
Why are bubbles round and not square or triangular. Everything in the universe or round, it’s the law!
@sunshinehoward9649
@sunshinehoward9649 22 күн бұрын
sorry Rudy, you can make different shape bubbles. even squared ones. just have to have the tools and know how. but I do hear you.
@danbeaulieu2130
@danbeaulieu2130 Ай бұрын
I've read the bible. It's pretty clear that the earth is flat.
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 Ай бұрын
no verse in any version says Earth is "flat" and several say sphere, ball and globe. Which bible are you reading???
@danbeaulieu2130
@danbeaulieu2130 Ай бұрын
@@tjjones621 name one verse.
@danbeaulieu2130
@danbeaulieu2130 Ай бұрын
@@RidgewayMountainhauser Indeed. And I'll go with it being wrong
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 Ай бұрын
@@moogle_k Wait... I can get PAID for laughing hysterically while pointing at the globe map all fe'rs are holding in their hand??? Where do I sign up? If you had corrected me, you could show me the map of the Flatearth, clown.
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 Ай бұрын
@@danbeaulieu2130 Easy, but you could have just done your own research... Isaiah 40:22 Aramaic Bible in Plain English: And him who sits on the sphere of The Earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretched out the Heavens like a vaulted bowl, and stretched them out as a tent for a dwelling Peshitta Holy Bible Translated: And him who sits on the SPHERE of The Earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretched out the Heavens like a vaulted bowl, and stretched them out as a tent for a dwelling The Message 21-24 Have you not been paying attention? Have you not been listening? Haven’t you heard these stories all your life? Don’t you understand the foundation of all things? God sits high above the ROUND BALL OF EARTH. Italian Bible. Egli è quel che siede sopra il globo della terra [GLOBE] Dutch official bible talks about a KLOOT ( old Dutch for ball) Amos 9:6 Geneva Bible 1560 He buildeth his spheres in the heaven, and hath laid the foundation of his globe of elements in the earth: hee calleth the waters of the sea, and powreth them out vpon the open earth: the Lorde is his Name. Latin Vulgate qui sedet super gyrum terrae et habitatores eius sunt quasi lucustae qui extendit velut nihilum caelos et expandit eos sicut tabernaculum ad inhabitandum - “It is he that sitteth upon the globe of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts: he that stretcheth out the heavens as nothing, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.” Isaiah 10:20-23 The Message And on that Day also, what’s left of Israel, the straggling survivors of Jacob, will no longer be fascinated by abusive, battering Assyria. They’ll lean on God, The Holy-yes, truly. The ragtag remnant-what’s left of Jacob-will come back to the Strong God. Your people Israel were once like the sand on the seashore, but only a scattered few will return. Destruction is ordered, brimming over with righteousness. For the Master, God-of-the-Angel-Armies, will finish here what he started all over the globe. Isaiah 23:6-8 The Message Visit Tarshish, you who live on the seacoast. Take a good, long look and wail-yes, cry buckets of tears! Is this the city you remember as energetic and alive, bustling with activity, this historic old city, Expanding throughout the globe, buying and selling all over the world? NOW YOU SHOW ME JUST ONE VERSE THAT USES THE WORD "FLAT" TO DESCRIBE EARTH. :)
@user-zb6uf3us1w
@user-zb6uf3us1w 13 күн бұрын
If I look through a telescope when a boat is traveling away from where I am and after watching it hours and I still can see the bottom of the boat 25 miles away it means there is something wrong that I can still see the bottom of the boat where its floating on the water. Do the water temperature difference from the air temperature has something to do with making me still seeing the bottom of the boat when the earth curvature should make it possible for me to see the bottom? Wow
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 13 күн бұрын
Yes. Atmosphere affects the view. Ever seen a fata morgana? It's an amazing sight. Outside the box tho... we all use the map of the globe Earth for directions to the shoreline and to get the distances to the targets.
@brianchristopher8843
@brianchristopher8843 Ай бұрын
This was poorly researched and an over all failure. Yes the Bible says the earth is fixed, immovable, and a circle. Doesn't say flat or sphere but they did have a word for circle and sphere and the word circle was used.
@Farmer4Truth
@Farmer4Truth Ай бұрын
Also says it has foundations
@PanhandleFrank
@PanhandleFrank Ай бұрын
Circles don’t have corners.
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
Sorry but your comment is what is poorly researched. See other comment threads. All of those arguments have been debunked long ago.
@aservantinbabylon
@aservantinbabylon Ай бұрын
@@logicianbones None have been debunked. Zero.
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
@@aservantinbabylon Then show why. Engage the reasoning I and others have shown. And I know what a sound debunking looks like... it is.
@MrFinius
@MrFinius Ай бұрын
I have never seen a satisfactory explanation for eclipses or correolus phenomena in any of the numerous flat-earth models.
@dopestpost
@dopestpost 14 күн бұрын
Ever met a sniper?
@fakadaapada
@fakadaapada 5 күн бұрын
can someone explain to me how moon eclipse work on flat earth model please ?
@AndrewFosterSheff69
@AndrewFosterSheff69 Ай бұрын
Your first mistake is assuming the flat earth is still rotating around the Sun in "space". There is NO outer space, only water! EXACTKY as God's Word told us from THE BEGINNING.
@AndrewFosterSheff69
@AndrewFosterSheff69 Ай бұрын
That image of the Earth shadow on the Moon is frankly ridiculous. Try making that same model with the correct scale and with Umbra and Penumbra shadows from a MASSIVE SUN. The Moon in the heliocentric model is TINY compared to the Earth, the shadow shape should have been STRAIGHT and very faded due to Light from the Sun being MASSIVE and the light being parallel . Wakey wakey! Lies Lies Lies
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
You kind of missed the expanse part. Read on in Genesis past the initial few verses LOL.
@MikeS-7
@MikeS-7 Ай бұрын
We must remember, we were once them. We have one of the best known scholars, the late Dr. Michael Heiser, on our side. If you let the book speak for itself biblical cosmology is flat earth. He is the voice of nonsense. His arguments are so easily dismantled.
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
@@MikeS-7 Heiser didn't let the book speak for itself; he imported (modern views of) other ANE views.
@Blossom-73
@Blossom-73 Ай бұрын
If there is no outer space, only water then the Sun, moon and the rest of the planets shouldn't exist.
@RoyDerksen-cj2mp
@RoyDerksen-cj2mp 24 күн бұрын
God separated the waters from above and below. We are on a plain under a bubble
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 23 күн бұрын
waters above are rain, snow, clouds, etc. and waters below are oceans, lake, ground water, etc. the firmament is correctly translated "expanse" and it begins at the surface of Earth. If we are on a plane Earth under a bubble, I will need to see your map please... spamming the same comment over and over only makes you think you are right in your own mind...
@gregcarlson8660
@gregcarlson8660 Ай бұрын
A circle does not have corners. Therefore, the argument of the circle of the earth (Isa 40:22) and the argument of the four corners of the earth (Isa 11:12) contradict each other.
@mephi654
@mephi654 Ай бұрын
Then why does ‘science’ use the expression “From the four corners of the earth” when speaking of a sphere? Because it’s an expression!
@jahk603
@jahk603 Ай бұрын
What happens when you quarter a circle? You get four corners in the middle; that's the point.
@jimthomas1989
@jimthomas1989 Ай бұрын
4 corners refer to the 4 directions North , South, East , and West From no matter where you are which would make a Sphere Then there is Longitude and Latitude Then there is why don't YOU send up your own camera and your own balloon while recording video of EVERYTHING and then show your findings to the entire WORLD !
@AUTOSAD777
@AUTOSAD777 Ай бұрын
You win dumbest comment of this video.
@ThatOneGeekyFamilytoo
@ThatOneGeekyFamilytoo Ай бұрын
I love how KZfaq is so pathetic, they put flat earth context on a video disproving flat earth… both biblically and scientifically…
@jbinpo
@jbinpo Ай бұрын
it does neither
@mustaffa1611
@mustaffa1611 Ай бұрын
should be simple to prove the globe if its a globe. lets see that curvature over a large body of water. lets get a real photo of the earth that is not CGI from all those space cameras that nasa says it has
@RealHooksy
@RealHooksy Ай бұрын
KZfaq didn’t put it on KZfaq, AIG put it on KZfaq 🤦🏻‍♂️
@saintlunaticv3602
@saintlunaticv3602 Ай бұрын
Except this video proved nothing bot.
@thomasfidone1741
@thomasfidone1741 Ай бұрын
@@mustaffa1611 yep you’re right if it was a curvature when you’re 100 miles out it’s 65 miles down from point A to point B. And we know that you can see Chicago 100 miles out from Lake Michigan from point A to point B. So when you stand on the Michigan side, it should be impossible to see the city of Chicago. But you can stand on Lake Michigan right now on Michigan and see Chicago. Chicago at this point should be 65 miles down and you should not be able to see Chicago so proves your curvature of the earth wrong.
@saulespino2510
@saulespino2510 Ай бұрын
One thing that the flat earth proponents have that scientists can/t seem to answer is this- how can you zoom in on a ship with binoculars after you see with your eyes go under the horizon.
@SuperDavidEF
@SuperDavidEF Ай бұрын
You can't. They lied. Flat Earthers always lie, because the truth is incompatible with a "flat earth" belief.
@ronaldraygun3591
@ronaldraygun3591 Ай бұрын
The curvature formula doesn’t add up
@msquiggle3590
@msquiggle3590 Ай бұрын
Zoom in on a ship going over the horizon. Oh look, the ship disappears bottom first. Almost like it's going over a curve
@msquiggle3590
@msquiggle3590 Ай бұрын
@@ronaldraygun3591 That's because you're using the wrong formula. 8" per mile would yield a parabola. The correct curvature formula is h = r * (1 - cos a) h: drop in curvature over a distance r: radius of the Earth a: angle formed between your observation point, the center of the Earth, and the point you are looking to do the calculation on
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
Faulkner has much about this in his book. You're talking about atmospheric refraction (from temperature inversion) which is fully explained. But you seem to maybe imply that binoculars change it, no they don't. But even if it wasn't fully explained, that wouldn't prove a flat Earth, which is already disproven many other ways. Also FEers would have the same problem in reverse times a gajilion since this is RARE (and happens precisely when temperature inversions would happen).
@JaniceCrowell
@JaniceCrowell Ай бұрын
Charlie Duke’s testimony is amazing. I had the privilege to meet him on 1986.
@fanbutton
@fanbutton Ай бұрын
The man is a 33rd degree free mason...sworn to secrecy...a professional liar.
@nigelrobinson5991
@nigelrobinson5991 29 күн бұрын
saiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in
@moogle_k
@moogle_k 28 күн бұрын
H1754 Dure: a circle or ball. H2329 khoog: a circle, circuit, compass Isaiah 40:22 "It is he that sitteth upon the circle[H2329] of the earth" Isaiah 40:22 uses form H2329 khoog, which means a circle, circuit, compass. The ancient Hebrews DID have a word, "Dure", to describe a spherical ball shape of the earth when the Bible was recorded. Here's the biblical example of a round ball being used; Isiah 22:18. "He will surely turn and toss thee like a ball" [H1754 Dure:]
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 28 күн бұрын
circle of earth means a ball shape. Also, earth is not capitalized...
@farfiman
@farfiman 23 күн бұрын
In hebrew it doesn't say circle. The meaning is "around ( the land)"
@campparsonssundayschool7844
@campparsonssundayschool7844 21 күн бұрын
“..stretches out the heavens as a curtain” = expanding universe.
@Godblessed2
@Godblessed2 Ай бұрын
If the earth was flat, all of the house cats would have shoved everything off by now
@neatnateable
@neatnateable Ай бұрын
Love it.
@kimdawcatgirl
@kimdawcatgirl Ай бұрын
Except the waters are held in by bounds, and cats generally don't like water.
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy Ай бұрын
The Earth is made of catnip, which distracts them.
@peterjarvio8335
@peterjarvio8335 20 күн бұрын
On the flat earth, where everyone lives, the edge is Antarctica. Cats don't like cold weather, they would never get that close to the edge.
@SK-bw2cv
@SK-bw2cv Ай бұрын
Visibility of the Stars (AIG) Another argument involves the stars that are visible in the northern and southern parts of the sky. The North Star lies within a degree of the north celestial pole, the direction in space that the earth’s rotation points at. As the earth rotates each day, the stars, the sun, and the moon appear to spin around the north celestial pole, so the north celestial pole remains fixed in the sky. In the ancient world, many people thought that the celestial sphere rotated each day around a non-spinning earth. For our purposes here, it doesn’t matter which is the case. The north celestial pole makes an angle with the northern horizon. We call this angle the altitude of the north celestial pole. Since the North Star is so close to the north celestial pole, we can approximate the altitude of the north celestial pole with the North Star’s altitude.
@donaldrodriguez8134
@donaldrodriguez8134 Ай бұрын
SO we are TRAVELING at millions of miles per hour into OUTER space and the stars ✨ are all still in the same position after millions of years ? 🤣🤣🤣
@TheSwordandPearl
@TheSwordandPearl Ай бұрын
Make it make sense
@PanhandleFrank
@PanhandleFrank Ай бұрын
Straw man much? Dr. Faulkner said nothing about *“traveling into* outer space.” Earth orbits the sun.
@burnttoast2790
@burnttoast2790 Ай бұрын
They aren't, actually. In fact, if you check written accounts of ancient cultures doing their own stargazing, you'd learn that one of the stars in the Little Dipper's bowl, Kochab, was closer to the northern pole. But as our solar system drifts, so do the constellations from our perspective. Thus, the Little Dipper moved such that the tip of the handle, Polaris, was the new pole star.
@welcometoWWW
@welcometoWWW Ай бұрын
God tossed you out of Heaven. You have _fallen_ into time. Given this, I'd say it's fairly reasonable to imagine God chucked you with such an incredible speed and force out of Heaven so as to literally create space-time. Welcome to life buddy. Bible never says the Earth is flat.
@PanhandleFrank
@PanhandleFrank Ай бұрын
@@welcometoWWW "God tossed you out of Heaven." Umm, SCRIPTURE(S) please?! 🤔
@JesusChristIsKingOfKingsAmen
@JesusChristIsKingOfKingsAmen Ай бұрын
This is absolutely ridicolous, the Bible does talks about a geocentric model, not a globe, there are 240 verses that talk about foundations, pillars, ends, firmament (dome) Isaiah 40:22 means flat circle and many others, the heliocentric model is just a theory, nobody ever proved it, if you don't have knowledge about what you are talking about then you better not talk about it.
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
"if you don't have knowledge about what you are talking about then you better not talk about it" So those of us who have looked properly into it would say to you... You briefly allude to many debunked arguments. Read the other comments here or read Faulkner's book, or what JP Holding has on this.
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
The idea that it looks like it teaches a geocentric model is admittedly understandable -- it's not for nothing that geocentrism was popular, legitimately, in the middle ages, though Flat Earth wasn't, despite modern misconception. However, we agree today from an Einsteinian physics perspective that the Earth is as rest and in a sense the sun goes around it (from Earth's reference frame only). Or it could be using phenomenological language which was normal. Either way we have no problem.
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
From there the arguments you allude to go downhill. First, number of verses mentioning things like pillars tells you nothing about how those verses are using pillars. One that's often cited from Samuel for example clearly talks about pillars ABOVE the land, yet Flat-Earthers somehow miss that and claim it's pillars BELOW the land.
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
There are also huge numbers of verses that make it clear that erets ("earth") usually means a land such as the land of Israel, yet FEers act like it means planet (or world) Earth with a capital E, which it doesn't. Read the whole thing, not just cherrypicked, out of context Flat-Earther lists of verses isolated. Ends of the land of Israel for example has nothing to do with the shape of our world as a whole.
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
Firmament is a mistranslation. See other comments for more. It's expanse.
@zerosteel0123
@zerosteel0123 Ай бұрын
Oh boy. Here we go.
@sliglusamelius8578
@sliglusamelius8578 Ай бұрын
The video is saying that the earth is a sphere, something known by all cultures since way before Christ.
@donaldrodriguez8134
@donaldrodriguez8134 Ай бұрын
@@sliglusamelius8578 Yeh they used what Science to prove that ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 they used Horses and wagons and Feather 🪶 pens to calculate the earths shape ?
@LindseyDisney
@LindseyDisney Ай бұрын
The story of Noah's ark proves the earth is a sphere. The earth was flooded till every mountain was covered with water. Given that the highest points of the earth were covered with water, the ark would have floated off the edge of the earth if it were flat. But the ark did not go off of any edge, therefore the earth has no edge. Therefore the earth is not flat.
@msquiggle3590
@msquiggle3590 Ай бұрын
​@@donaldrodriguez8134 Their eyes and their brains. "Oh look, the stars change throughout the year." "Oh look the earth casts a round shadow on the moon." "Oh look, ships disappear bottom first over the horizon." "Oh look, the constellations change depending on where on Earth you are." "Oh look, stars move counter clockwise in the northern hemisphere and clockwise in the southern." "Oh look, when it's summer in the northern hemisphere, it's winter in the southern." And on and on and on. That's without any math or measuring instruments or anything. We calculated the circumference of the Earth over 2000 years ago with 2 sticks and some shadows. We've known it's a sphere for such a long time.
@zerosteel0123
@zerosteel0123 Ай бұрын
@@sliglusamelius8578 yes, I know 🙂
@zbyszekkopec908
@zbyszekkopec908 12 күн бұрын
The Earth is flat with Firmamennt.
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 11 күн бұрын
If you think the globe Earth is Satan's lie, I will need to see the map you use for turn by turn directions....
@central3425
@central3425 10 күн бұрын
WRONG, its a sphere just like the bible states, what the church has known for thousands of years and what sailors hundreds of years ago knew. Its a GLOBE. The modern flat earth movement was started by ahetists, do not be deceived.
@trasenagleeson5422
@trasenagleeson5422 Ай бұрын
These people worship science
@jahk603
@jahk603 Ай бұрын
scientism
@nikorn24
@nikorn24 Ай бұрын
Understanding science isn't worshipping science. That's like saying accountants worship maths because they use it 😂
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy Ай бұрын
Do you worship pancakes?
@nikorn24
@nikorn24 Ай бұрын
@@libertyresearch-iu4fy I do. Fluffy, light, delicious. What's not to worship?
@thetruthstrangerthanfictio954
@thetruthstrangerthanfictio954 Ай бұрын
@@nikorn24 I agree with you. Some people do worship science but not these people. If they did they would believe in Darwinism.
@Yashael341
@Yashael341 Ай бұрын
I've seen the end of a selenelion. It was partial by the time I got to witness it. I was surprised how bright the moon seemed to be when I got to see it.
@erickedmondromanharris1549
@erickedmondromanharris1549 Ай бұрын
Job 37:33 That is why my heart also trembles, And jumps from its place. 2 Listen carefully to the loud noise of his voice, and to the sound that comes out of his mouth. 3 Under all the heavens he directs it, And the light from it to the ends of the earth. Deuteronomy 4:18-19 15 “On the day the Lord spoke to you in Horeb, in the midst of the fire, you did not see any figure. Therefore, be very careful 16 not to corrupt yourselves by making idols or figures that have the form or image of a man or a woman, 17 or of animals that walk on the earth, or of birds that fly in the air, 18 or of reptiles that They crawl on the ground, or from fish that live in the waters beneath the ground. 19 Otherwise, when you look up and see the whole host of heaven-that is, the sun, the moon, and the stars-you may be tempted to bow down before them and worship them. The Lord, your God, has given these stars to all the nations under heaven. Ezekiel 1:22 and 26 22 And above the heads of the living creatures appeared a dome like a marvelous crystal, stretched over their heads. 23 And under the expanse their wings were straight, reaching out one toward another; and each one had two wings that covered his body. Ezekiel 1:26 26 And above the expanse that was over their heads, like the appearance of a sapphire stone, was the likeness of a throne, and on the likeness of the throne, was a likeness like the appearance of a man upon it above. כווּמִמַּ֗עַל לָֽרָקִ֙יעַ֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר עַל־רֹאשָׁ֔ם כְּמַרְאֵ֥ה אֶֽבֶן־סַפִּ֖יר דְּמ֣וּת כִּסֵּ֑א וְעַל֙ דְּמ֣וּת הַכִּסֵּ֔א דְּמ֞וּת כְּמַרְאֵ֥ה אָדָ֛ם עָלָ֖יו מִלְמָֽעְלָה: Psalm 93:1 יהוה queen; she dressed herself in magnificence; יהוה clothed herself, she girded herself with power. She also established the world, and it will not move. Psalm 104:5 You established the earth on its foundations and it will never move from there; Isaiah 45:18 For thus says the LORD who created the heavens (He is the God who formed the earth and made it, He established it and did not make it a desolate place, but formed it to be inhabited): I am the LORD and there is no other. אֲנִ֥י יְהֹוָ֖ה וְאֵ֥ין עֽוֹד Psalm 75:3 The earth and all its inhabitants tremble, but I support its columns. Psalms 96:10 Say among the nations: יהוה queen. She also affirmed the world, it will not be moved; She will judge the people in justice. 1 chronicles 16:30 Tremble at his presence, all the earth; Certainly the world is well established, it will be immovable. Isaiah 14:13-14 13 You who said in your heart: I will ascend to heaven; I will set up my throne on high above the stars of God, and I will sit on the mountain of the testimony on the sides of the north; 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, and I will be like the Most High. Proverbs 30:4 Who ascended to heaven and descended? Who collected the winds in his fists? Who wrapped the waters in his mantle? Who established all the ends of the earth? What is his name or the name of his son? Certainly you know it. Isaiah 2:22 Stop considering the man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; for what is he to be esteemed for? Genesis 1:14-19 14 Then God said: Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night; and let them serve as signs for the seasons, for days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth. And it was like that. 16 And God made the two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night; he also made the stars. 17 And God placed them in the firmament of heaven to give light on the earth, 18 and to govern the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that he was good. 19And there was evening and morning on the fourth day. Ecclesiastes 1:1-7 1 Words of the Preacher, son of David, king in Jerusalem. 2 Vanity of vanities, said the Preacher; vanity of vanities, everything is vanity. 3 What profit does a man have from all his labor under the sun? 4 Generation goes, and generation comes; but the earth always remains. 5 The sun rises, and the sun sets, and hurries back to the place from which it rises. 6 The wind pulls towards the south, and circles around to the north; It spins continuously, and the wind returns to its spins again. 7 The rivers all flow into the sea, and the sea is not filled; to the place where the rivers came from, there they return to flow again. Joshua 10:12-13 12 On that day when the Lord delivered the Amorites into the hands of the Israelites, Joshua said to the Lord in the presence of all the people: "Sun, stand on Gibeon, moon, stand on Aijalon." 13 The sun stood still and the moon stood still, until Israel took revenge on her adversaries. Isaiah 43:6 6 I will say to the north: Go this way; and to the south: Do not stop; bring my sons from afar, and my daughters from the ends of the earth, 7 all who are called by my name; For my glory I have created them, formed them and made them. Psalm 136:7-9 To him who made the great luminaries; His great love endures forever. 8 The sun, to illuminate the day; His great love endures forever. 9 The moon and the stars, to illuminate the night; His great love endures forever. Isaiah 38:7 I will defend this city. 7 And this is the sign that I will give you to confirm what I have promised you: 8 I will cause the shadow of the sun to retreat on the ladder of Ahaz the ten steps it has already descended.” »And the sunlight went back the ten steps it had already descended! Isaiah 13:9-10 Look! The day of the Lord is coming-a cruel day, of fury and burning wrath-; He will turn the earth into desolation and exterminate sinners from it! 10 The stars and constellations of heaven will cease to radiate light from it; The sun will be darkened as it rises and the moon will no longer shine.
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 Ай бұрын
Ok, but Earth isn't flat tho..
@erickedmondromanharris1549
@erickedmondromanharris1549 Ай бұрын
@@tjjones621 it is NOT a sphere.
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 Ай бұрын
@@erickedmondromanharris1549 Ok. What is the name of the map you use to navigate Earth?
@erickedmondromanharris1549
@erickedmondromanharris1549 Ай бұрын
@@tjjones621 I have a set of better questions: How does atmosphere stay around without a container from space? How do oceans curve around a spherical Earth? How is it that the constellations are still together and with the same paterns year after year? Why is there a star like Polaris that stays fixed above the magnetic North everyday all year-round every year since the beginning of history? Why is space fake, movie filmed and totaly sci-fi?
@markduell2468
@markduell2468 Ай бұрын
It's 2024 and we are still having discussions about this topic. Unbelievable.
@Necrodudeman
@Necrodudeman Ай бұрын
I can't believe it too. This discussion is pointless.
@cs5250
@cs5250 Ай бұрын
It’s because the ark museum is in the Bible Belt where people believe flat earth
@davidh5429
@davidh5429 Ай бұрын
​@@Necrodudeman The lies of the government are so great, literally nobody trusts anything or anyone anymore. So they look for opposites.
@KennethIligan-wo4pg
@KennethIligan-wo4pg Ай бұрын
The fact that they're still having a discussion on what a woman is and what a man is, and they believe in everything that is okay to have sex with a lot of people. And they believe that a man can become a woman and a man can be pregnant, do you even realize how ridiculous that is.😂
@williambillycraig1057
@williambillycraig1057 Ай бұрын
@@cs5250 Flat Earth proponents can be found across the United States and worldwide. However, it is worth noting that the Flat Earth Society, one of the most prominent organizations for flat earthers, is based in California.
@tima9854
@tima9854 Ай бұрын
Globe vs Flat is one thing. I think we should talk about the Firmament and The Luminaries first. As it is written in the scriptures, 1 The Hebrew word for Firmament is a solid structure or Giant Dome over the earth. Solid like a rock, transparent like glass and holding the waters above. A MAGNIFICENT creation by the Word. It divides the waters above from the waters below. Just like the waters in the oceans, seas, lakes, rivers, etc. are above the Firmament. And the clouds and rain are below the Firmament. I know I can not pass through a solid, can you? Don’t forget that the windows in the Firmament were opened and flooded the whole earth above the height of Mount Everest and then some. That’s a lot of water. 2. The Sun, The Moon and The Stars ALL have a path that they are commanded to follow AROUND the Earth. The Earth is stationary and the Sun , Moon and Stars rotate around the Earth. The Earth is the centre of attention. Read All the scriptures available to you today.
@kevinskinner4986
@kevinskinner4986 Ай бұрын
The reality is this: Eventually, somebody's going to say "I don't believe that firmament even exists" and they're going to throw a big rock at it. What are you going to do if that rock goes straight through?
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
You say "as it is written" as if what you're going to show next is a quote from the Scriptures... then instead you have Flat-Earther eisegesis. The HEBREW word is expanse and not solid. See other threads; I went through line by line in Genesis showing it has to include air; birds are "of" it in the same way fish are of water. Same to the other points. All of this has been debunked!
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy Ай бұрын
Please explain to me why a firmament would not work on a globe. I can't wait.
@locinolacolino1302
@locinolacolino1302 Ай бұрын
@@kevinskinner4986 The United States tried in the 1960s, except by launching nukes instead of rocks. Search up 'Operation Fishbowl' (funny name for an Earth that supposedly does not have a bowl on top of it). Anyways, they had to cancel the project and abort the remaining nukes as not a single one scathed the firmament.
@annep.1905
@annep.1905 Ай бұрын
@@kevinskinner4986 They already have: rockets, ballistic missiles, satellites...
@jonathonearl482
@jonathonearl482 Ай бұрын
I think many of us would like to see a live debate or discussion about this Flat Earth Theory between Dr. Danny Faulkner and PhD. Vincent Rhodes!
@kennethmheck1
@kennethmheck1 Ай бұрын
For those interested, the word "earth" in Genesis doesn't mean the third planet from the sun. The biblical earth always includes vegetation and animals, plus human beings. This excludes the seas and oceans, the polar regions, mountainous areas with glaciers, deserts, and even swamps, everglades , etc. where human beings don't live readily.
@rmac1199
@rmac1199 Ай бұрын
I noticed you hand selected ONE thing you thought you could manipulate and twist as your father, the Father of the Pharisees, did back when Yeshua walked the earth. But you never opened Genesis or Isaiah and looked at the Hebrew words, or even read Genesis to see what Yeshua told Moses to write. Because you don't want people to know that Yahweh and Yeshua say the world is like a tent with the Raquia stretched above separating the waters above from the waters below. King David, Thousand of Years Later still knew there were waters above our sky.
@A-childOfGod-pp4ge
@A-childOfGod-pp4ge Ай бұрын
AMEN!
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy Ай бұрын
yeah, it is stretched. It is not a snow globe like a pathetic pancake god would make.
@JohnSmith-gy4qj
@JohnSmith-gy4qj Ай бұрын
I cant listen r to this because if the stupid background music. What If you are driving a long distance like a thousand or even five hundred kilometers. And you've got a two-way radio. You need to have a radio with a variable frequency on the antenna. Back in the good old days. Before this was made automatic by my boss in my last job. AM. Every three or four hundred kilometers pig would have to stop their car. Guy founded the areas and change the position of the frequency on the area before this process was made to be automatic. Now this wouldn't have to happen if the earth was flat. So please, flat earthers explain this phenomenon, to me.
@ajforms4818
@ajforms4818 Ай бұрын
Wait what? You ignore 200 or more references in the Bible that when stitched together, point to the Earth being an Enclosed Structure with a brass dome-like mirror stretched all across the sky for thousands of miles in every direction; but can't get past a phenomenon that you don't understand? You made up your mind decades ago didn't you. Well so did I but I changed my mind about ten years ago at about age 60. I doubt there are ten more years left in this old Earth, so if you want to get on board with God, you better make up your mind ASAP
@miscamisca6775
@miscamisca6775 21 күн бұрын
I find it hilarious that AiG have to debunk flat earth >< It is funny on so many levels
@central3425
@central3425 10 күн бұрын
Yeah, people are being tricked by flat earth lies. Athetists started the modern flat earth movement.
@John-kj5wh
@John-kj5wh Ай бұрын
I respect their positions but it doesnt say it in the Bible anywhere period. Also makes no sense. Why is it daytime in australia while night in nyc? Why couldnt you see the sun over polynesia from the sears tower in chicago? Seasonal offsets as well. Different constellations between hemispheres. The shadow of the eclipse being elongated in a way only a sphere could do.
@johnqpublic7608
@johnqpublic7608 Ай бұрын
why would you respect willful ignorance?
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
And even worse, their 'spotlight sun' would be reaching the whole south pole half the year, yet missing places even closer on the popular new flat circle model. So basically they need magical light-bending that happens to make everything look exactly like a sphere. Untestable ad hoc... I guess it's all an evil Spherical Earth holodeck on a flat Earth we just conveniently can't see except when temperature inversions happen LOL.
@davidgardner863
@davidgardner863 Ай бұрын
@@logicianbones, Do any flat earthers have an IQ above 60? I don’t think so.
@firmamentalist6167
@firmamentalist6167 Ай бұрын
I soooo much expected to look in these comments and find anti-FE comments but my heart is warmed to see how many disagree with AIG on this. I supported AIG for many years, until I became FE. Now I realize that AIG is a wolf in sheep's clothing. When you preach half truths you preach no truths at all.
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 Ай бұрын
You have made a grave error. You are still using the map of the globe Earth to navigate. If you think the globe is Satan's lie, you are complicit in that lie every time you need turn by turn directions...
@johnqpublic7608
@johnqpublic7608 Ай бұрын
_"my heart is warmed to see how many disagree with AIG on this."_ it warms your heart to see flattard ignorance in the comments? _"Now I realize that AIG is a wolf in sheep's clothing"_ unfortunately, you're just an ignorant dolt.
@charlespoe5155
@charlespoe5155 Ай бұрын
Why is the compass still used today without technology. It was invented in the 12th century to navigate. I don’t have to calculate for that curve when using that.
@firmamentalist6167
@firmamentalist6167 Ай бұрын
@@tjjones621 You made an assumption of gigantic proportions that flat maps are based on a spherical earth.
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 Ай бұрын
@@firmamentalist6167 It's not an assumption. You use the map of the globe Earth to drive around too... Which map do you use for turn by turn directions?
@user-io4gk1kc4o
@user-io4gk1kc4o Ай бұрын
The earth is flat get over it
@supersilverhazeroker
@supersilverhazeroker Ай бұрын
the firmament is outer space is it not? as the stars are placed in it?
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
Sort of. First, "firmament" is a mistranslation. It's expanse, and the stars could be in it in that sense. However, the Genesis language may mean "in" in the same sense as our modern word "sky" as in, we see them if we look up in that direction, while the "expanse" might refer only to the atmosphere. I've looked into this in-depth and it's a bit ambiguous, but I think it includes space.
@lifeontheroad_
@lifeontheroad_ Ай бұрын
The Bible also describes it in Job and in Ezekiel as hard. What does firm mean?
@supersilverhazeroker
@supersilverhazeroker Ай бұрын
@@lifeontheroad_ i don't really know what the firmament is, but in ezekiel it's not talking about "the" firmament, but a likeness of it, presumably it's then not referring to outer space, unless it's just talking about a starry expanse or something, but he could see above it etc. i don't (at a quick glance) see anything there about it being hard though. modern translations say expanse, the dutch SV(1637) also says something to that tune. job doesn't pull up when i search for firmament in KJV pure bible search.
@lifeontheroad_
@lifeontheroad_ Ай бұрын
@@supersilverhazeroker Ezekiel 1:22. Job 37:18
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
@@lifeontheroad_ Job is explicitly talking about clouds, man. Read it.
@BahaaFahmy-ch2lg
@BahaaFahmy-ch2lg Ай бұрын
Separation of church and state, works in reverse also. There is one authority whom you could ask in prayer. Once I stupidly asked (in prayer)about a silly contradiction in the Bible. Even though I knew better. I received a visit with the firm answer " The Bible is perfect in every way, without error or contradiction"
@user-jt3ex9pl8s
@user-jt3ex9pl8s Ай бұрын
👑👑👑👑Please 🙏🏻pray for salvation for Chris, Pete and Nick who no longer believes in Jesus 😢
@jtothed81
@jtothed81 Ай бұрын
Who???
@GoemonLovesFujiko
@GoemonLovesFujiko Ай бұрын
@@jtothed81they just told you.
@jtothed81
@jtothed81 Ай бұрын
@@GoemonLovesFujiko More specifically, who are they, and why don't they believe anymore? OK now?
@GoemonLovesFujiko
@GoemonLovesFujiko Ай бұрын
@@jtothed81 obviously people op cares about. How is this difficult?
@bigd-ui6zs
@bigd-ui6zs Ай бұрын
Praise Lord Jesus!
@38calibercoffee
@38calibercoffee Ай бұрын
Let's say that the earth is flat. Now what?
@FierceMouse
@FierceMouse Ай бұрын
Um, we are the center of the universe and God and the son's of God all have their eyes on us. It disproves the Gnostic lie that human life is not precious. Your soul matters. Yours!
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
Then it would mean that vast numbers of Christians who witness its sphericity and report on it must be in on some evil conspiracy, as Faulkner points out.
@mustaffa1611
@mustaffa1611 Ай бұрын
@@FierceMouse exactly, and we know where heaven is. I like asking glober Christians where is heaven then and the looks and answers are always very interesting.
@Farmer4Truth
@Farmer4Truth Ай бұрын
We continue to walk as our Messiah taught us and share the Gospel Of His Kingdom!
@sashaalpatru8100
@sashaalpatru8100 Ай бұрын
​@@Farmer4Truth So you can't do that if it's a sphere? 😅
@John-kj5wh
@John-kj5wh Ай бұрын
The eclipses are a very good point as well i have not yet considered that
@mustaffa1611
@mustaffa1611 Ай бұрын
we just had a couple selenelion eclipses this past decade where both the sun and moon are visible above the horizon during the lunar eclipse so we know for a 100% fact that the earths shadow does not cause a lunar eclipse.
@MrFinius
@MrFinius Ай бұрын
It's not about shape but it is about earth-speed and locality. I believe the third little mentioned option that fits Scripture and science ie. A geocentric universe with earth a sphere at the centre stationary with the heavenly bodies moving about the sun while the sun goes around the sun.
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy Ай бұрын
What?
@coreya151
@coreya151 Ай бұрын
Dear Flat Earthers: Take a long exposure picture or a series of pictures of the night sky from both the north and south hemispheres. If you face the camera East both times, you'll have the stars appear to spiral around Polaris on your left when you're in the Northern Hemisphere and you'll have the stars appear to spiral around Sigma Octantis on your right in the Southern Hemisphere. If Earth is a globe spinning in space, this is how it will appear. If it is flat, you will not see any spiraling on your right in the Southern Hemisphere because the sky would appear to spin in the same direction relative to the ground as in the Northern Hemisphere. I have never been anywhere in the Southern Hemisphere, so I've never had the chance to do it, but I don't recall ever hearing about a Flat Earther from Australia or New Zealand. Let me know how it goes...
@ceedee873
@ceedee873 Ай бұрын
I'm a "flat earther" from Australia, so I suppose there is a first for everything :) I don't understand why Australia and NZ can't exist on a FE, people that think like this haven't really looked into the cosmology behind the concept, FE is stationary as well, what's outside of the firmament is waters like it's described in Genesis. What that shows is the firmament, if it was a ball spinning through space you would have streaks across the sky and not circles after the long exposure, it always points towards the cardinal north, and the stars are fixed in their positions, no amount of observation shows the stars moving unless it's the planets or "wandering stars" as they used to be called. If astronomy is truly the world's oldest form of science, then why did it take Catholics so long to come up with the big bang theory for example? In the late 1800s no less, out of the thousands of years of observing the sky.. not one person ever postulated the idea of the big bang?
@kathyweckerle6880
@kathyweckerle6880 Ай бұрын
Are you saying stars on a level earth could not appear to spin two different directions? Did you know that if you have a Clock with a transparent face in front of you it will look like it’s going clockwise and if you move it straight behind you and look back at it it will look counterclockwise? The clock handles are still moving the same direction either way you look at it, while you stand on a level floor.
@kehindeakiode2865
@kehindeakiode2865 Ай бұрын
​​@@kathyweckerle6880ah, so you mean people in Australia are on the underside of the earth relative to people in Europe. Interesting. Amazing how they don't just fall off, right?
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
It can be done for the southern direction even in most latitudes of the north too. We'll still see the curves of the circles around an area below the horizon. In another thread here I include more detail of a way to do this without even the need for any camera or anything, just eyeballs. We just won't see the lower ends of that circle.
@logicianbones
@logicianbones Ай бұрын
​@@ceedee873 That's the OLD Flat-Earth model that even most modern Flat-Earthers have been forced to admit is debunked, that had a spherical solid sky around a flat circle with the sun going below the flat circle, and north was to be a point on one end of the flat circle and south the opposite end, with a stellar north and south too. New model has no stellar south and puts north in the middle of the flat circle. The latter is the model this video is addressing.
@garrgravarr
@garrgravarr 28 күн бұрын
Answers in Genesis is happy to reject entire branches of science but flat earth is where they draw the line 😂
@moogle_k
@moogle_k 28 күн бұрын
That's because he seeks out his primary faith based pseudoscience belief system for his answers and not Genesis.
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 28 күн бұрын
@@moogle_k I am surprised you spelled pseudoscience correctly...
@johnqpublic7608
@johnqpublic7608 28 күн бұрын
@@moogle_k _"That's because he seeks out his primary faith based pseudoscience belief system for his answers and not Genesis."_ when the flattardia assertions of genesis are easily disproved, you really have no choice. either admit genesis is wrong and embrace reality or follow the iron age ignorance.
@melocruz2226
@melocruz2226 Ай бұрын
I appreciate his conversation regarding this topic. I just find it humorous that individuals are so bent out of shape in this comment section . Whether the earth is a globe 🌎 (which I believe) or flat , our priority isn’t to sow strife against each other but to see God’s creation and declare His glory, power, and dominion over all. At the end of the day, the shape of the earth isn’t what will save you.
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy Ай бұрын
Flat earthers would contradict you.
@johnqpublic7608
@johnqpublic7608 Ай бұрын
mixing flattardia with christianity will only bring mockery and drive intelligent people away.
@imkingofmymind1
@imkingofmymind1 Ай бұрын
I think this is part of a longer presentation by this gentleman. I have no idea how to deal with this though. It’s obviously a distraction, because there are so many much more important things to be talking about. So the question is basically, how do we keep the flat earthers from being a huge distraction, whilst not spinning our wheels trying to deal with it.
@DivergentDroid
@DivergentDroid Ай бұрын
Danny's Heresy is Not less important than other things, It's Way important especially for Christians because it teaches others to commit that same heresy.
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy Ай бұрын
@@DivergentDroid Says the cultist.
@dulcetsimone1482
@dulcetsimone1482 Ай бұрын
I'm not a flat Earther or round Earther. I know nothing about flat earth and as far as the globe, all I have is what the government, movies, and the public school system has told me. That's not sufficient evidence to me. But what I can tell is when someone is undermining their opponent, and not going after the most knowledgeable on the subject. He's saying that when he talks to flat earthers, he's constantly getting "I don't knows". He's not taking the debate seriously and will not be converting anyone from the other side. He's just going to get a bunch of confirmation from people who already agree with him.
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 Ай бұрын
As long as you are using the globe map to drive around, you are a glober.
@johnqpublic7608
@johnqpublic7608 Ай бұрын
_"He's saying that when he talks to flat earthers, he's constantly getting "I don't knows"."_ the prominent flattard conmen won't commit to any details about flattardia, because they know how easy it is to disprove.
@hollymills4096
@hollymills4096 Ай бұрын
This guy doesn’t believe in Biblical cosmology
@JosiahK555
@JosiahK555 Ай бұрын
that's because there is no such thing.
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy Ай бұрын
You believe in flat earth, which is a fallacy. Congratulations.
@rachelrasmussen1101
@rachelrasmussen1101 Ай бұрын
Or you don't understand Biblical Cosmology.
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy Ай бұрын
@@rachelrasmussen1101 I understand it perfectly, and the Bible says NOTHING regarding the shape of the Earth. Change my mind.
@rachelrasmussen1101
@rachelrasmussen1101 Ай бұрын
@@libertyresearch-iu4fy I wasn't talking to you, luv. I was talking to the OP.
@user-id7rl8ry1c
@user-id7rl8ry1c Ай бұрын
Light does not travel more slowly in colder air!
@davidm4566
@davidm4566 Ай бұрын
I don't know why anyone would say the Earth is flat. Even the Bible describes it as round and hanging on nothing. This is opposite to what people believed back then, so it gives credibility. Verses to show this: Isaiah 40:21-22 Job 26:7 Proverbs 8:27 Job 26:10 We can also see that the Earth is round with our eyes. We see the Earth's round shadow on the moon. We can also look at the horizon as we go up in an airplane or even a tall building. Look from far left to far right and the horizon curves.
@AUTOSAD777
@AUTOSAD777 Ай бұрын
Show us curvature at 30,000 feet or you're lying. You guys change the goalposts constantly. Boats go over the curve at 3 miles, but the curve is too big to see at 30,000 feet. Which is it?
@SK-bw2cv
@SK-bw2cv Ай бұрын
Curvature of the Earth (AIG) Not only is the earth curved in the north-south direction, it also is curved in the east-west direction. There is a time difference of three hours between the east and west coasts of the United States. That is, the sun rises and sets approximately three hours earlier on the east coast than it does on the west coast. This is easily verified by anyone who has flown between the east and west coasts of the United States. Not only will your watch show that there is a time difference of three hours, but your body will notice the difference in time as well. If one drives from one coast to the other, the trip will take several days, so our bodies will not notice the time difference as much. However, our watches reveal that the time has changed. Such rapid transportation was not possible in ancient times, but the ancients could see this time difference a different way. A lunar eclipse obviously must happen simultaneously for everyone on earth, but it will be different times at different locations. For instance, a lunar eclipse may start shortly after sunset in the eastern Mediterranean, such as in Greece. However, in the western Mediterranean, such as in Spain, the moon would already be in eclipse when the moon rose that night. This means that the lunar eclipse began before sunset/moonrise in Spain, but after sunset/moonrise in Greece. Communication was such in the ancient world that people were aware of this effect. This shows that the earth is curved in the east-west direction. If the earth is curved in both the north-south and east-west direction, the most likely shape of the earth is a sphere.
@johnqpublic7608
@johnqpublic7608 Ай бұрын
@Nemesistyx _"even the south pole itself isnt the most southern point...."_ you're wrong and stupid. there is no "south pole" in flattardia.
@mustaffa1611
@mustaffa1611 Ай бұрын
if there is curvature then it should easily be visible yet its not and all bodies are water are flat. frozen lakes of hundreds of miles long in canada and russia and they are perfectly flat with no curvature.
@msquiggle3590
@msquiggle3590 Ай бұрын
@@mustaffa1611 Watch a boat go over the horizon. It goes under the horizon bottom first. This wouldn't happen on a flat Earth, it would just get smaller and smaller until it was just a tiny point.
@mustaffa1611
@mustaffa1611 Ай бұрын
@@msquiggle3590 dude there is easily a thousand videos proving boats don't go over the horizon. even the nasa fan boys even quit using that argument like 5+ years ago
@msquiggle3590
@msquiggle3590 Ай бұрын
@@mustaffa1611 iPE8ERYsQW4?si=zWkra6Vwe0UiB9CI I've literally taken pictures of boats going over the horizon with 1000mm lenses, what are you taking about?
@timkirwin7328
@timkirwin7328 Ай бұрын
The amount of non sense in this video is amazing. You can believe human written history, or you can believe GOD'S words. Pray for your bias' to be put aside and read the scripture. Or just believe what your told.
@SkydivingTunnelGod
@SkydivingTunnelGod 29 күн бұрын
Biblical Hebrew doesn't have a word for sphere.
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy 27 күн бұрын
I can believe God's words; I just can't believe your interpretation, flattard.
@Juliang61
@Juliang61 Ай бұрын
I don't think he talks fast enough WOW. Good stuff tho
@yankeesiowa
@yankeesiowa 26 күн бұрын
Looking into flat earth allowed God to open my eyes to his creation. What I was taught was evolution from monkeys and we're just a random ball flying through space. But now I see and believe that makes no sense. It takes away from our special creation. The Bible is true. Is it flat? Is it a ball? Doesn't matter. What matters is God be glorified. So thank you Lord for showing me your creation and allowing me to give you praise while living in it. Please forgive me when I take it for granted. Love God and Love people.
@tjjones621
@tjjones621 25 күн бұрын
So, it doesn't matter, but you mock the ball version...
@johnqpublic7608
@johnqpublic7608 25 күн бұрын
associating flattardia with christianity will only bring mockery on the church and drive intelligent people away.
@cptcosmo
@cptcosmo Ай бұрын
If you think the earth is flat, then please explain the Coriolis effect. I'll wait... ask any military sniper or rifleman about the Coriolis effect.
@Acacian141
@Acacian141 Ай бұрын
And how it's never a factor lol. I'll sit here in my helicopter waiting for China to come around lol
@Acacian141
@Acacian141 Ай бұрын
Ask the navy how they target objects 100 miles away using a laser. Last time I checked lasers shoot straight
@alflat885
@alflat885 Ай бұрын
Indeed! The Coriolis effect, you have never experienced yourself! If there was such an effect, THINK... Planes could NEVER EVER land on a runway by this same so called "coriolis" effect. Then, if you really believe in the bible, stop listening to what they want you to think you know and Research flat earth for yourself. It is flat, as the bible describes many times. Watch Bob Skiba , The Potter's Clay, Taboo Conspiracy iii, DITRH, Paul on the Plane, Eric Dubay
@IAMhassentyou
@IAMhassentyou Ай бұрын
@@Acacian141 that's why their lasers cannot shoot from the middle of the Pacific into the middle of China. They have a certain range that is limited because of the curvature of the earth.
@IAMhassentyou
@IAMhassentyou Ай бұрын
@@Acacian141 they would actually have to wait for a target to get in range before the could use it. If the Earth were flat they could shoot it from Los Angeles to Beijing, no problem. They can't.
@ShuwshanEmeq-xb3mk
@ShuwshanEmeq-xb3mk Ай бұрын
Lexicon :: Strong's H5377 - nāšā' Transliteration nāšā' Pronunciation naw-shaw' nâshâʼ, naw-shaw'; a primitive root; to lead astray, i.e. (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce:-beguile, deceive, greatly, utterly.
@ShuwshanEmeq-xb3mk
@ShuwshanEmeq-xb3mk Ай бұрын
@RidgewayMountainhauser They hide flat earth because it's a clock. The sun and moon move exactly a quarter turn with each phase of the moon.
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy 27 күн бұрын
Strong's H5375 nasa means to lift. The one you quoted is 'nasha'. I despise liars like you.
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