@fullswing Dr. Robert Schoch is a tenured and respected geologist at Boston Uni. Don't worry, his peers are paying close attention to his 35 years or so research. We can't rewrite history...but we can discover new history.

Saying something is nonsense is surely rebuttal?

I would add to your points about lack of evidence of prior civilisations: Regardless of whether the people lived on a coastline, now submerged, building the Pyramids and Sphinx required 1000s of people. Were they bussed in and out every day? If so, where is the evidence of the highway? It would have been impossible to construct such large edifices and leave no trace. Damn, I forgot, they might have been beamed down from the mother ship.

You're as cute as a blibbety blobbety button! Look closely at the Narmer palette - it shows the Sphinx, with a different style of head and headdress/buttered hair/wig, partially buried even then, but no pyramids - it shows mastaba-like buildings that may have been extended into pyramids later. I think the causeways were originally small, raised canals with lock gates, that could effortlessly raise the stones to the base of the pyramids, the water required to operate the causeway, and the counterbalanced hoists for raising stones, was provided by the subterranean ram pump system, that is evident in the foundations of the stone pyramids.

@fullswing Any grade-school child could look at the eroded walls of the Sphinx enclosure and recognize immediately the tell-tale signs of extensive water erosion. One can be a moron and deny the evidence of their own eyes, but that doesn't change the fact that water erosion is water erosion and no amount of PHDs are needed to recognize the very obvious. So who ya gonna believe? The "experts" or yer own lyin' eyes??? Once you wake up from your establishment-induced hallucination you need to get around to figuring out just when it was that such a volume of water was present on the Giza plateau. Let us know what you come up with.

uh, no 2 workers appear in your capital and they now are 15% more efficient

@@Kanoshe you are using a different version of the Pyramids

@@Kanoshe Uhh no, still wrong friend! The pyramid unlocks all forms of government, until someone else discovers monarchy.

I agree with everyone.

Nah, the pyramids give you a free builder and a free builder charge for every builder. Easily an S tier wonder

True true but some believers of these types of theories are big racists , like some if you check out their profiles or whatnot in facebook/twitter/reddit ,they would give to credit aliens and gods in building those ancient cities/structures than giving credit to people of that region "the people/civilization of this are is not that intelligent at that time to do this kind of feat" - every conspiracy tv show hosts ever

@@snoot6629 ah yes, all people who like having creative thoughts about the world around them and how everything humanity has made came to be are rampant racists. Thank you for that insight. Grow up.

@@ToffeePlays19 i did not said that , i said " some believers " often times want to credit aliens and other supernatural stuffs instead of actually acknowledging the people who built those impressive feats of architecture , hence "the people/civilization of this area is not that intelligent at that time to do this kind of feat"

@@ToffeePlays19 Creative thoughts= " Must have been done by a civilization we've never heard of ", or " they couldn't have moved those huge stones ", or " This level of precision is unattainable even with today's technology ". Are those the kind of creative thoughts you're speaking of? How is it that the alt history crowd always seem to have the same " creative thoughts "? And they have been having these same creative thoughts for better than 70 years. This ain't nothing new. Check out " Worlds in Collision " 1950, Emmanuel Velikovsky. The racist part is refusing to accept that Indians built Tikal or Machu Pichu. Or that indigenous hunter gatherers entered the Nile valley around 17,000 YBP, progressed through the neolithic to pastoral, herding lifestyle, to then agriculture and settled farming communities that eventually lead to one of the greatest civilizations mankind has produced, past or present.

@@russellmillar7132 ‘they couldn’t have moved those huge stones’ is just a testament to someone’s fascination with how the pyramids could possibly be constructed by a civilisation without sophisticated metal tools and machinery... how is that anything to do with racism? It’s really difficult to explain how an ancient culture could build such a massive monument without the right equipment especially considering the bricks used to create the pyramids were actually not particularly local to where they were built

We? i hope your a black man of nubian/kushite origin... cos these pyramids defo werent built after the islamic invasion in the 7th century

@@hebisty4163 Yeah, that's why koptic christians are black, or wait no they aren't. There also are no evidence for large displacements of egyptians during islamic expansion or mass settlement of arabs in egypt.

Nobody said it hasnt rained in 12 thousand years.

@@ciamciaramcia99 Yes there is, but you're eurocentric view won't allow to be open to the evidence...

Maybe you are the idiot for not being open to new evidence that contradicts the current thinking. In whatever field of endeavor that might be. The weathering inside the Sphinx enclosure attributed to rain by Schoch hasn't appeared over the whole Giza Plateau. The pyramids and the sphinx's head should show the same level of ware. [And I think you meant were]. "We're" sounds like you are including yourself as a "pyramidiot". I won't argue.

TAURI KREE

Jaffa!

The pyramids are autonomous. They built themselves. Please show respect.

@@letyvasquez2025 Shol'va

@@BadyTheProgram Rock the Ca’shba

Nailed it

Translation: They just wanna proof their wild fantasies, instead of finding out what objectively happened.

@Cool stat You determine the validity of research and evidence based in wehter it's been conducted and found by Europeans?

Or just to get attention and funding...

Wrong, it is the absolute bias of the insiders that we are all complaining about

Thank you!

You have to check out Bright Insight then.

Google Search Robert Schoch, PhD You'll recognize - his credibility.

@@Anuisgod Bright Insight is one of the least credible people I've yet come across on KZfaq. He substantiates precisely none of what he claims, makes wild leaps of reasoning and starts with conclusions and then tries to work backwards from there. He seems like an intelligent enough guy to know much of what he's spewing is utter nonsense, which makes him even worse in my opinion. He's a charlatan and nothing more. I suggest you stay away from that particular brand of over-hyped pseudo-archaeology and actually start doing some reading for yourself. Once you do you'll quickly start realizing the whole "lost ancient civilizations" thing is a house built on a foundation of sand.

@@rfwhyte Hahahha sure, now get back to Smithsonian kitchen.

Yes - it however is nothing new. The advent of "pseudoscience" as a business has been a problem for academia for decades. Such as the late Carl Sagan as an example wrote about it as far back as the 1970's. Since the advent of the internet and entertainment television via "niche cable channels" however what was once limited to fringe print media and the occasional television program - which appropriate disclaimers - has largely spread to the internet where anyone can claim anything absent any real pushback. Moral of the story: channels like this have become a necessity. Just as a virus can continuously spread if measures are not taking to mitigate that spread = so ignorance begets ignorance ad infinitum unless the cycle is broken by more credible information and facilitating understanding. Sunlight continues to be the best disinfectant. The problem of pseudoscience/history stems from the entertainment genre via movies and televisions. It is maintained however in large part owing to = a failed educational system which does not teach people how to recognize such trash so as to realize it is more Hollywood than actual history. So Schoch et al = are "bottom feeders" who are exploiting the ignorance and gullibility of their minions to monetize the response. 🤔 _"A sucker is born every minute"_

thats hot

The location Egypt is at was a rainforest many thousands of years ago

good old green sahara

Was that a pun?

@@brendananderson9102 two of them

You should check out Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock podcasts, and also Cosmic patterns and cycles of catastrophes (by Randall Carlson) ;)

So why are the pyramids made by later dynasties so much smaller and less "professional"?

The idea is that there was a civilization that was almost as advanced as modern humans but some sort of catastrophic event occurred that caused large parts of humanity to die off and we regressed technology-wise to the just before the bronze age and that most of the bronze age myths were us trying to remember the world before

@@desperatelyseekingrealnews Why isn't Rome building new aqueducts all over Europe anymore?

@@homebrewedthoughts2033 this is laughable af, there would be evidence left behind of all their constructions and their effects on the environment

@fullswing, come now, that's a bit harsh. The only reason a scam artist exists is because they're really good at introducing curious people into nonsense.

Try to be more sceptical and keep learning from multiple, reputable sources, official science journals or Wikipedia for that matter. The more you know, the less vulnerable you are to BS.

More worship of the recent. The Nile has been there for Millenia. So have humans. So why not have repeated civilization cycles. Interrupted by solar outbursts floods and ciimate catastr

@@wernerretief4569 Because in order to have civilizations, humans had to evolve their technology from stone tools and being hunter/gatherers to discovering metal tools and learning agriculture/domestication of animals. Also while they were doing that they had to leave behind evidence of their existence and how they lived. The earliest evidence of the arrival of civilizations forming was 5000-6000 years ago in Mesopotamia. We have archaeological evidence of humans from over 100,000 years ago and we know about when humans made these technological leaps. It's fine if you want to assert that civilizations sprang up sooner, but you have to support it with hard evidence.

@jimralston4789 Civilization=/= Oldest known permanent cities constructed. Not to argue with your point to the comment above you, more to say it's potentially a quagmire of BS to get into when using civilization to be synonymous with oldest known stone town ruins. People like Hancock will happily play into this misconception and conflate 'civilization' and 'intellectually capable' and try putting it against his idea of more nomadic hunter gatherer people prior to the "sudden" appearance of these massive constructions evidencing their "sudden" switch to civilization and "sudden" ability and intellect to technologically engineer "more advanced" structures. Like, boom, outta nowhere!

If your "egpytian" then most likely youre arab..... which has nothing to do with the people who lived and made those momuments.. and if you cared so much about your culture youd know that. ... so dont try that

@@oltch. although you’re rude I’ll humour you. here’s a question for you..where are the descendants of ancient Egyptians? Wiped out? Immigrated? What’s your theory?

@@koozdorah look it up. Its been done thru , at least taking mummies and getting their genetics. Look up king tuts genome. But even the slaves were semetic peoples. Arabs came to eygpt later. Much later , and took it over and populated it. This is common knowledge just look it up .

@@oltch. good words in a nice order which do not answer my question. You’re making a claim and asking me to google for you. Fine, since you mentioned Semitic slaves, it’s incorrect (www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.haaretz.com/amp/jewish/were-jews-ever-really-slaves-in-egypt-1.5208519). As to the claim that Egypt is mostly arab, that’s incorrect (egyptindependent.com/dna-analysis-proves-egyptians-are-not-arabs/). And if you want something more anecdotal (www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/dd6xp0/are_modern_egyptians_related_to_the_ancient/) I have no interest in continuing this conversation and will not be responding. You sir, are a bigot. Do not go around educating people about their identity which you know nothing about.

Not for the idiot who started this by telling me “don’t try that”, but for other people who might be interested...btw Egyptian Christians and Muslims both carry Egyptian blood, both mixed with Arabs and other ethnicities, but Muslims have mixed more with Arabs. Essentially in most cases we can’t tell a Christian Egyptian from a Muslim Egyptian by looks, they look identical. That’s because Arabs did not replace the Egyptian population, yes there were huge Arab migrations, but still the islamisation of Egypt happened mostly through conversion of Christians (unfortunately probably forced) mainly in the 9th and 14th centuries. Egyptians today are a mix of many things but those things do include (surprise surprise) Egyptian.

It was never discovered. The coptics and Arabs in Cairo always knew it was there. And it was not completely covered. The head was above the sand. Why do people spread so much misinformation online?

That's what I was thinking... so morning dew, in my opinion, can't be the main cause of the erosion. Maybe a bit in the years since the excavation but what declares the signs of water erosion when the sphinx was excavated wich is to be seen on the photos taken during it.

Next multi channel collab should definitely be debunking 'favourite' conspiracy theories

History / his story.. Like how all those fishtailed gods share common phonemes for mother and water, starting in West Africa to Egypt India Asia Europe and the Americas. YaMAya, NomMOs, MAtsya, MAnannán, Melusine. There's a lot more of them. Even Jesus is a fish, right? Weird how all those fishtailed gods coincide with symbols of fascism. Double headed axes and spears.. What about fake language like pig-latin? Yeshua = joshua Iesous = heil Zeus (like Spanish jesús) Jesus = Greek ge + Latin sus = EarthPig /jesus. Church comes from circe. Circe was a witch that turned Odysseus's men into pigs (way before the invention of Abraham or them turning Akhenaten and Sargon into Moses..). Jesus turned the legion into pigs at Gerasene. Legion + Gerasene = a garrison / a military (that's indoctrinated to support the fasces). Pig-latin is funny because everyone worships piggy-banks and we're all born in barns like Jesus and pigs. A manger is a trough. (pennies » fishtails, plebes consume the least valuable portions. Paradise / eden = a penned in place to domesticate cattle. Pastor comes from pastoralism = the domestication of cattle. ..For sure, abrahamic religions are poorly plagiarized from a dozen older religions and there's no archeological evidence of a place called Israel or a people called Hebrews until Rome invented them in the common era. #historyisfake

Can you please give me your dealer's number because whatever you're smoking is STRONG.

@@moodist1er No. Your processor is burnt out.

@@moodist1er There is mention of the isrealites in egypt in a chronicle of their conquerer, but everything else is bullshit. I hate abrahamic religions and that faltities they have been writing in the stake their last stand.

@karinschulyz5409 got’em.

Then why would these features only be on the Sphinx and not on surrounding structures? Also the Sphinx was buried under sand

@@travisaitch9963 I understand your premise. In general there are dissolved minerals and salts that come from various water sources, it could be that the apparent water erosion has come at different time frames with different mineral salt strengths, I know that will confuse many, but it might explain differences in erosion levels. Atmospheric levels of water may also have other dissolved salts as well. Salt has a very corrosive effect on many materials. Whether buried or not it still happens.

Yes.

Yes like Graham Hancock

@@Byronic19134 doesn’t he believe in Atlantis?

It is reasonable to believe atlantis once existed Similar to how it is reasonable to assume troy actually existed in some form or another

@@dj_koen1265 you need to grow a brain. We know troy existed because there is huge archeological evidence for it. Atlantis has none and is said to exist 10000 years earlier

Ratraccoon you're speaking logic! Stop it! Lol

Yeah, seeing is believing. Forget about the water erosion debate. The disproportionate figure may be more of a compelling case.

There is the theory of the sphinx was first constructed in the age of Leo, which is why it was originally in the form of a lion.

@@Horse2021 and if the Sphinx was built some 10-12 thousand years ago, at least before the time Egypt was wet, it would have faced Leo in the sky. The physical evidence, motive, all point to an earlier build date.

So let's abandon all opposing evidence because of the heads shape and three eroded walls?

Thanks, it's been an interesting ride lol. I do have a couple of videos on that area of the world and deffo plan to do more.

Perhaps you could do a few of those for June, July, and August. Y’know, during Sumer!

@@StefanMilo This comment sections should be archived. It's HiLarIous!

Follow the white rabbit: 1 - limestone is naturally porous. 2 - the Sphinx was carved from the limestone bedrock = ergo it is still attached to it. 3 - below the Giza necropolis sits the Nubian Sandstone Aquifer System = ergo there is groundwater a mere 4-5 meters below the Sphinx. You can coincidentally see videos here on YT of Egyptologists and geohydrologists drilling below the Sphinx to hit groundwater. 4 - so groundwater naturally upwells through the porous limestone bedrock to the surface. There is reacts with the calcium in the limestone to form salt precipitates which denudes to surface of the limestone causing it to flake away to touch. This process is called = "efflorescence". 5 - finally limestone as a "sedimentary rock" forms in layers of varying densities. As such the Sphinx which was carved from the bedrock is "softer" in some areas and harder in others. It was formed from the Mokkatum Formation which has 3 main density layers. Thus the upper face/head is medium hard - the neck and upper back is the softest part - while the bottom of the body is the hardest stone. This means that the structure erodes at different rates in different areas based upon its relative density there. Moral of the story: the Sphinx was buried for centuries up to its head in sand. Thus how could rainfall erode was what buried under meters of accumulated sand??? Meanwhile the exposed head and upper back as the softest parts of the structure were also the most badly eroded as a result of efflorescence from groundwater evaporation from below. They were exposed and accordingly blowing sand basically etched away the already crumbling surface of the limestone it was carved from. Consequently French engineers in the 1920's reinforced the Sphinx using concrete and steel rebar to buildup the neck and headdress area as well as fill in a large crack in the back and a hole in the top of the head. On a side note. A few years ago the Egyptian Dept. of Antiquities via a USAID grant hired a US water systems company to install underground water pumps around the plateau to lower the water table and divert it away from the necropolis to slow the erosion which is destroying the Sphinx even now. It requires constant maintenance to try to preserve it. So forget about rainfall. Something new to think about.

@@varyolla435the theory is obviously that it wasn't buried in sand last time there was rain fall 😂 I can't believe you wrote that whole essay and couldn't comprehend that.

@@pierer91 Sorry if reading is difficult for you - let alone understanding what you read. Fortunately you can take classes to address this apparent problem.........

@@varyolla435I love it when illiterates call a very short text “an essay.”

Unfair to make a definite answer without the two having a debate on the topic. Maybe Schoch has an explanation to his points or maybe can debunk them. He wouldn’t be doing this for 35 years if there was this much disproving evidence. Not saying Mr Schoch was right or anything but I’m saying it’s not entirely impossible

@qoizr7505 Nope. Despite what you may have been led to believe, debates are not how one demonstrates the validity of their claims. "Winning" a debate doesn't equal demonstrating your claim is true or factual. "He wouldn't be doing this for 35 years if there was this much disproving evidence." A couple of things about this idea. 1) Mark Sargent & other grifters have been presenting flat earth conspiracies for about 7 or 8 years. 2) Formerly doctor, Andrew Wakefield, has been lying about vaccines for about 25 years now. With 1) there is literally all of known physics to refute it. Children of about 7/8 years old, using nothing but their eyes and understanding of 3D shapes can refute it. It's a conspiracy first and foremost, evidence the earth isn't flat, is not at all an issue for most believers, it's the nefarious "they" that "hide" the "facts" that you debunk to help people out of that level of insane conspiracy. Reality, sight and a 7 year old's grasp of geometry refutes flat earth, yet Sargent and others make a pretty penny lying to people about it. With 2) Wakefield is a fraudulent POS. He has purposefully used natural fear of parents against them. His paper that he started the current anti vax movement with was not only thoroughly ripped to shreds by peer review, but there have been literally hundreds of studies and experiments, from researchers in a variety of relevant fields, presented in papers. These papers have been peer reviewed, and accepted, and not one has found any evidence of the BS Wakefield claimed in his debunked paper. He lost his license, his original motivation (his patent for his own measles vaccine) and BS study data results, were thoroughly exposed by a dedicated investigative journalist, (fun fact, a bunch of the stuff that proved just how much Wakefield was a lying POS, was obtained because Wakefield tried to sue the journalist investigating him, who was able to get copies of Wakefield's "research" work as part of the case discovery process. ) Yet Wakefield makes a fortune (albeit Stateside now) to this day. Lying about vaccines. And, the most important point is... It is not up to legitimate scientists, researchers, historians and what have you, to "debate" or debunk these dickheads when they just assert random BS and pretend "unanswered questions" is somehow evidence of their randomly asserted BS. It is up to these dickheads to evidence their case and have it stand up through peer reviewed research papers. The question that should be asked at this point is not "Is it more likely this person is wrong, or that literally thousands of researchers, with expertise in a number of different fields, from countries all over the world, are wrong, or part of a global conspiracy to deny such an obvious truth?" Although that is a good one.. The question to ask is: Why do these people _always_ misrepresent the "other side's" consensus / claim / ideas / data so consistently in their "work" ? And, why do they _never_ stop doing that when they have been told, repeatedly had it made clear, that what they are telling people the "mainstream" expert opinions are, is a false narrative? I assert it's because they're liars, obviously they're liars; they just keep on lying even when it's easy for them to google what it is that the experts _actually_ say about whatever subject.

Like all his debunking videos. Follows the same totally unscientific approach and is totally biased towards his own political, egotistical or religious beliefs. Science should follow proper scientific method not fit the line of whatever you believe in and ignore facts.

The head is a different type of stone which is much harder and tougher so it resists erosion better. Just google "sphinx rock layers" and look at the image results and you should get a whole load of results which shows the different layers.

@@dukenails7745 For example?

@@dukenails7745 I didn't hear one political or religious argument. He listed proper scientific evidence: climatological evidence that the Sahara was wetter 5000 years ago, no trace of archaeological evidence of a civilization capable of building the Sphinx 15000 years ago, no bronze tools as it hadn't been discovered yet, there are many other sources of erosion including groundwater, dew, hail. He listed proper scientific explanations, it's people who have formed an intractable opinion that won't consider them.

Indeed.

So where are these supposed historical records then........

_"Facts are stubborn things"_ - John Adams. 😉

conspiracy confirmed after all! 😂

check the closed captions... 🤣😂

Indeed, a mistake often made by even so called experts within the field. But I only need to drive on the road in my country to see that most people have great problems with the meaning of min and the meaning of max. We have a max speed we are allowed to drive, and most car drivers here treat it as a min speed instead. I don't see how when they enter their office they all of a sudden understand these concepts proporly and then forget all about them the moment they step into a car again.

@@BlacksmithTWD driving is completely different. Most people want to go faster than the maximum limit. Do you live in the United States? Do you not exceed the speed limit almost all the time? I drive a little slower now that I'm in my 40s, but I still exceed the speed limit generally speaking. If only by 5 or 10 mph.

@@jamisojo No I happen to live in the Netherlands and no I happen to obey the speed limit almost all the time, never had a ticked for speeding my entire life at least (also in my 40s now). I happen to have a friend who doesn't like me driving as I'm driving 'too slow' according to him, as he is used to exceeding the speed limit by about 10 km/h and in practice treats the max speed as a min speed (so I don't like traveling with him driving either), where I tend to drive 5 km/h below max speed up to max speed (especially when driving with a small trailer as he seems to forget that when driving with a trailer the speed limit is 90 km/h instead of 130 km/h). Though I get an idea of what you are trying to get at, and to some extend I don't disagree, however, seeing the number of people who ignore the speed limit and then when I drive the speed limit they pretend I'm the one who's breaking the traffic laws, I think you are mistaken at least about that group. Contrary to them you are willing to admit it when you choose to break the traffic rules, and as such at least you still seem to know the difference, unlike my friend or the guy who was asked what his main traffic frustration was and answered : "people who drive below the minimum speed", while where I live there is no minimum speed, here there only are maximum speeds in the traffic rules (though we do have a rule against unneccesary obstruction of ongoing traffic, never got a ticket for that either). Though probably driving in the Netherlands is more complicated as driving in the US as we happen to be more densly populated and as such have more different speed limits per driven kilometer/mile. Also depending on the time in the day the speed limit differs. Obeying traffic rules has gotten worse over the years as our government decided on increasing penalties while lowering traffic rule enforcement (about the same number of police officers for traffic rules as 30 years ago while the number of drivers more than doubled), though traffic safety has been increasing (except the last 5 years, after raising the maximum speed from 120km/h to 130 km/h, while for trucks it remained 80 km/h), but this is mostly caused by improved infrastructure.

Barb Mulvaney it’s a simple joke. You act as if that man insulted your entire family and your entire linage.

Barb Mulvaney maybe you should get some fresh air.

Barb, it was a joke. I get the feeling your religion of ancient space aliens was called into question and you got upset.

@Cat Magic calm down

@Cat Magic I just made it 71🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

Allegedly

@@desperatelyseekingrealnews Yeah like 99.9999% allegedly.

The only theory that makes sense!

@@StefanMilo the can tell rain erosion from the Death of Gullies running down the side as well as the Seciment. And. Were is the Salts And how do you even know it Kafre who made had that Dranage cannal . Why was was there even a Drainage cannal. And how can they Built such huge Trases without leaving a Trase. Can you hear how contradictory that is. And look life after humans. Can such a civilian that built the Hover Damb or Rushmore . Leave no trase of Houses. Or anything

@@osmosisjones4912 yo, are you okay? He'd have to build the drainage canal because rain, explaining erosion. I may have myinclination about watchers, but to just assert this nonsense will get is nowhere closer to the truth

@@janecasper846 but hadn't heavily rained there for over ten thousand years.

@@osmosisjones4912 Did you watch the video? It was wet in Kaffus time.

they have more trees back then.... we are destroying the planet earth

(the foundations) a man can only piss so high.

By hunter gatherers who are on the cusp of developing agriculture maybe even already are early agricultural communities. The scale of the two monuments, their style, and the technology required is hardly comparable.

You are brushing the controversy under the rug. It doesn't fit the current understanding of anthropology. www.google.com/search?q=gobekli+tepe&rlz=1C1GGGE___US623US623&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj_yp2NhO7gAhUC_4MKHfY4AS4Q_AUIDigB&biw=1536&bih=760#imgrc=pGQejBaSsfEciM: This predates the pyramids by 4500 years

@@StefanMilo Well, I came in to point out how biased and unscientific your contentions are, and then I found this equally clueless comment, if not more. If you had any experience in archeology, as I do, you'd realize what a bonehead comment it is to contend that the Sphinx and Gobleki Tepi are not on par regarding scale and scope. Gobleki Tepi is only 10% excavated. The stoneworking skill necessary to not only quarry, shape, and place the stones but to carve the reliefs does not happen while wandering the savanna hunting antelope. Those skills must evolve over generations, if not centuries or millennia. Likely you were attempting to pass off GT as the work of a nascent settlement. No, this was the work of a highly organized society, which already existed 12,000 years ago.

@Nick Nack What's your evidence? Mine is experience, and a degree anthropology, studying what it takes to for civilizations to evolve from hunter-gatherers to an organized civilization.

@Nick Nack I already know what the literature says. And, having been in Academia, I have witnessed firsthand how skewed the results get on an archaeological project. Yes, feet are held to the fire to not skew the results, but the results get skewed for purposes of perpetuating one's career by fitting facts into previous conclusions. For example, what is the oldest date of human habitation in North America? The Clovis level, right? You and I both know that is b******* and that there is an emerging preponderance of evidence that blows right through the Clovis level. You also know that less than 10% of Goblecki Tepe has been excavated. It is much too soon to draw conclusions about any lack of pottery or other signs a settlement. In addition, there are indications that there are sites adjacent to Gobleki Tepe. Let's take a look at the recent discovery of a void in the Great Pyramid. Zahi hawass says it isn't there. Why? Because he doesn't believe in radar. The ministry of Antiquities goes to Great Lengths to ignore anything that doesn't fit in with their notion of Egyptian antiquity. For example, the Great Pyramid is the tomb of Khufu. More b*******. None of the pyramids were tombs unless the Builder is just got a wild hair and decided not to do anything that they had done previously and afterwards to create a tomb. Khufu simply rework was already existing. Same with the Sphinx. Go ahead, try and tell me that isn't water erosion. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Exactly. So, pardon me for being crass, but put your head back up your ass and go write another paper. Make sure you don't say anything that someone else hasn't already said.

The Sahara goes through cycles of being intense desert and grassy forested land. The last time the Sahara was a lush location was around 5000 years ago, allowing for a vast opportunity for habitation and advancement of technology through northern Africa. The entirety of the Sahara covers part of a continent therefore the potential for hundreds of microclimates existed during these lush years.

Easter island used to be full of trees now theres not a single one

What he doesn’t mention is Giza gets around half an inch a year in rainfall currently. So that’s around 1.5 inches of rainfall a year, and the largest estimate I could find is 5 inches for desert areas such as Giza. Absolutely outstanding.

@@jujubucks12 yeah and that’s actually due to the native islanders who chopped down all the trees

@@kabedonovan5555yeah i noticed that haha. Claiming there was 3 times more as if 3 times next to nothing is a lot 😂

You do not even need to do that. Simply asked them = "then who did???" Invariably they can not answer - at least not intelligently. It will always be allusions to some supposed "lost civilization" for which coincidentally nary a pottery shard exists to show it was actually real. Such unsubstantiated speculation coincidentally is known as "argumentum ad ignorantiam". Ironic in that the pyramids or Sphinx survived whereas nothing else about them did. lol!

"Pyramidiots" = are a niche industry now I'm afraid. For far too long academia ignored them. Subsequently this is what we now see = a diverse online and cable television based industry whose presence is actively undermining academic conclusions. Academia needs to become more proactive in challenging this shite. Such as the late Carl Sagan as an example wrote and spoke about the pervasive nature of "pseudoscience/history" as far back as the 1970's - but few paid attention. 🤷

It was only covered up until 500ad, before that it had two thousand years for sand blasting

Ah alas! Ah sphinxidiot

..... Because sand completely stops erosion and water. 🙄😕😕

What water erosion? There is not any.

@@honeysucklecat ?

@Alex V preach.

And for decades the US government claimed UFOs were a farce and invented the phrase conspiracy theorist. Ha a few months ago we couldn't get "scientists" to agree on masks being a good idea.

@@johnmaccallum7935 .... Still haven't seen any UFOs. .... Still haven't seen any government proof of aliens.

@@jamisojo and you're not going to as of course you can believe in everything your government tells you or doesn't tell you.

@@johnmaccallum7935FOs were a farce tho. Also the phrase ‘conspiracy theorist’ dates back to the 1850s.

Any scientist should have an open mind and if this guy is teaching you anything you have to be a very poor archaeologist.

Oh your an Egyptologist? Hahahah Probably not. Right? It’s unwise to assume your knowledge extends to areas you know almost nothing about.

Bluederrick1 oh, and you're a geologist???

@Sf Ski & he seems to have ( i saw it on ancient aliens ) level of understanding of schochs theory

Skiddly ploppity ding dang doo

That’s not where the carts go

yes it does fill up with sand very quickly but one can assume that the monument has been kept up with until Christianity took over as with other monuments this is over 2,000 years of possible weathering

@@shadymerchant1198 The Egyptians record having to occasionally rediscover and dig out the thing. The Sphinx was buried entirely when Thutmoses had his dream and ordered it uncovered.

There are, at minimum, 2 distinctly different levels of technology employed on and around the plateau. The highest quality craftsmanship is predynastic followed by a much more mundane and somewhat perocial technology. Something seen in ancient megalithic structures around the world. Quite starkly, in S. America. The evidence, unequivocal now in my opinion, of a worldwide cataclysm that caused the extinction of vast numbers of Pleistocene creatures also brought humanity to its knees, along with the accumulated knowlege of 10s of thousands of years. Trying to shoehorn civilization into a single linear timeline is foolish.

@@shadymerchant1198 if we talk of extraordinary evidence required, your point is good but not evidence

@@6point8esspcee68 you are an idiot if human civilization existed long before it is currently believed to have existed and it was far more advanced then us there would be some trace left behind mass graves synthetic materials stainless steel is effective eternal not to mention a genetic legacy there is none of this Shoehorning civilization into a linear timeline may be foolish but it is far more foolish to say I don't understand how the ancients did something so it must be a ancient super advanced society that mysteriously vanished only leaving behind a few piles of rock

@FilthyDank Wasteman the 11th oh god I've gotten that reply so many times...

I disagree, goebkli tepe is a HUGE site if I am not misstaken only 10% has been escavated and the site is way larger than what we have to work with. How could a nomadic people of hunter gatherers ever carve and haul these huge stones if they didn't have an advanced civilization with the ability of agriculture, science, and mathematics. The precision in these stones are amazing and the worksmanship is incredible.

I find the smile relaxing, and that is conducive to science.

There are many earlier examples of egyptian architecture, the great pyramid was not built in a day. There are a lot of more ancient tombs that lead to it, from mastabas to the pyramid of Djoser, to the three pyramids of Snofru and finally to Khufu's great pyramid. Also, they obviously had architectural plans, most probably drawn on papyri which do not survive very easily and were possibly also considered sacred or something and maybe destroyed? I don't understand why this looks so incredible to all conspiracy theorists, it is a big building that would have required a lot of raw material and workforce but it does not need that many technological skills or equipment, just a lot of money, sweat and time. Also why is everyone focused on Egypt and not the near easter ziqqurats lol. i think you are the mainstream conspiracists here ahhaha If you really want to solve your doubts, get a degree in archaeology and go excavate it yourself

@Sf Ski they already asked engineers 😅

@Sf Ski alright, so then it is aliens. Of course we will never know for sure how they did it, they are dead! But they didn't create anything otherworldly, they were very good architects and had a lot of resources that's it. I don't get why if we can't say for sure HOW Egyptians built their ramps, then it means they didn't built it. Jesus we don't know how Romans made their bread, does that mean that the bread we find in Pompei it's not Roman? If a pyramid is slathered in egyptian writing, frescoes and allover culture, if there are earlier examples of an evolution of the pyramid shaped tombs and if the pyramids are surrounded by Egyptian contex and fit well whitin it (mythology and all), then why is it so unbelievable that they could create impressive structures??? But no it must be aliens or some kind of older civilization that had superior technical skills but of which there is absolutely NO PROOF of existence. I really really don't understand why it is so difficult to believe.

@Sf Ski alright then i give up. Go on with your research and good luck solving the pyramid mystery. Just one last note: you can't find three articles that prove YOUR theory and call it a day, you should read also all the ones that contradict it and only then make up your mind. Also maybe ask yourself why the people who built the pyramids didn't leave any other trace beside them, and why it is ok for them to appear out of the blue and have a perfectly evoleved technology, but not for the egyptians. Bye bye

Numpty

Well said. I am shocked to see everywhere fringe theories that require logic flips or worldwide conspiracies to legitimize. It upsets me and there are tons of people wasting time to argue the least likely hypotheses with zero evidence or often contradict the existing evidence and don't even pass simple scrutiny.

@@pavel9652 Blame Ancient Aliens.

Erosion

Ey at least they don’t need to be pinned back 😂

Yeah, it's odd that as many times I've seen him, I never noticed how close his ears are to his head. He's still cool af as far as I'm concerned! 😊

Lol

I heard they were shot off by Napoleon...

I believe, because in all tombs of the dynasties believed to have built them, the tombs were all decorated with hieroglyphs. In any of the pyramids inner chambers, were bare of any adornments, or sarcophagi. While tomb raiders might have stolen all golden objects, and while they might excise the hieroglyphs, the walls were smooth (indicating there were no hieroglyphs), and there were no large, heavy, stone cases that surround the golden coffins of the dead. It's a little contradictory to understanding, which allows for speculation and conjecture (which is partly the basis for fun scifi movies). I agree about the sphinx/pyramid dating.

I don't think even the History Channel is all that factual, scientific or evidence based anymore. So, being not typical History Channel as it is now is a good thing.

It's a non-debunkable, debunk-proof, because there's always a possibility that artifacts of extreme antiquity just haven't been dug up. I mean, basically the thesis demands that more archaeology needs to be done. There's no way to make a case that less archaeology should be done! Or I suppose you could attack the individual proponents of "forbidden archaeology", which would simply justify their paranoia. Maybe accept that these those people aren't really enemies of archaeology. You can say they're wrong and criticize their PR techniques, but the minute you make them an enemy, they've basically won the argument. The only response is to do more, better science.

@@squirlmy So they can propose any ludicrous theory they imagine and we can't criticise because technically it's not 100% impossible that in future we find some evidence for it? By, that logic you cannot criticise anyone's theories no matter how ridiculous they sound.

@@ciamciaramcia99 wouldn't the idea be that we can criticise their conclusions, but not disprove them

Wouldn't they fuel archeology because of an extreme fascination with the subject?

The head dressing carved in the Sphinx can only be from the middle kingdom(or I suppose later). One of best candidates that I've seen for the Sphinx head is Amenemhat II. He was a pretty cool king. This doesn't mean Amenemhat carved the Sphinx; just that he, or someone later than him had his face carved onto whatever it was before.

You might be interested in watching ted talks how to green the worlds deserts and reverse climate change. It covers what you are describing with rain, and how they have managed to reverse the problems with the water loss. The before and afters at the end are amazing

Ive always been jealous of that kind of rain, i live in western Washington (just south west of Seattle) and in an average year we get 60-70 inches (150-180mm) of rain a year and between 160-180 rainy days a year. I kind of wish the rain would just dump and the clouds would go away for awhile. At the same time i do love living here because there's one of the worlds few temperate rain forests (Hoh Rain Forest) about a 4 hour drive from my house. That place can get crazy though, there's a section that gets 200+ inches of rain a year.

@@arthas640 I did not realise there is a rainforest 4 hours drive from Wahington, I feel rather silly. Thank you for adding some information to my day, I'm going to educate myself about it.

@@somniumisdreaming its gorgeous, google "the hall of moss, washington" (it's the name of a park, not an actual hall) or "the Hoh rainforest" for some nice pictures. Forkes Washington, where Twilight is set, is an old logging town in the rainforest

The Sphinx suffers from = efflorescence - still does by the way. There is a video here from a few years back which shows Egyptologists/hydrologists drilling beneath the Sphinx to strike a moisture level a mere 4-5 meters down. This is because = the Giza Plateau rests atop the Nubian Sandstone Aquifer System with the Nile running just to the east. So while atmospheric moisture from rain and condensation from the heating/cooling of the porous limestone bedrock accounts from some of the denudation of the structure a lot is a result of underground moisture upwelling from the aquifers below = in other words the structure "sweats". Consequently several years back via a USAID grant the Egyptian government contracted a US water systems company to install underground pumps around the plateau to lower the water table and divert it away from the necropolis. The Sphinx itself requires constant maintenance being coated with a neutralizing agent to mitigate the calcium-acid precipitate which forms from said moisture transit. p.s. - the sad irony here is that in the last century when the Sphinx was fully uncovered it has = eroded even faster - its' entire body surface now being exposed to blowing sand. When it was buried efflorescence still occurred of course but the buried parts were protected from said abrasion. Today it is basically being "sandblasted".

Good on you, sir! I personally enjoy watching conspiracy videos from time to time, but I always find the debunking more clever anyhow. Have a good time with your conspiracy videos!

Let me start by saying I don't believe what you call conspiracy theories. I do believe in this video he overlooked some evidence though. Why was the Sphinx carved in the shape of a lioness, with its face later remodeled to look like Khufu? How is all this erosion possible when we know for a fact the Sphinx was buried completely understand for a lot of recent history? Crystals forming does not explain why the erosion looks to be runs of water, it wouldn't just randomly form like that from condensation from dew. As far as some of the objects inside the pyramids, perfectly square corners in granite? Sarcophagi that aren't even disconnected from the lid, but just carved completely out inside with a few inches gap? Polished hieroglyphs that to this day have not lost their luster? Strange chambers that aren't really explained, with copper rods at the end of them? And underground chamber similar to the warden Cliff towers Tesla designed meant to create free wireless electricity? It seems too simple to discard all of these facts along the guys of conspiracy. I hope one day we will have enough knowledge to reasonably explain everything without simply ignoring one side or the other

Great vid

@@dreddykrugernew Don't even bother trying to reason with a debunker. You'll only get to be ridiculed.

@Stefan Milo, how about Delphinium Flowers comment? Do you have a retort??

This is a random question, but as Serbs. What is ur opinion of Ukrainw and Ukrainians..i know there is a large segmenf that is very pro Russian and since Ukraine is at war with Russia. They despise Ukraine..and call Ukrainians nazis..but i dont know what other segments think...

Agree!