Aaron the interrupting is annoying. I like the points you’re making but you have to let people finish speaking. Please 🙏🏻 Also, one big thing you’re missing Aaron about you’re point how the “best cars with the best engines” haven’t done well. Vaughn won in 2020 with his v8. You have to also consider, even if the car is the best, it’s the person who drives that car. That’s why random cars sometimes do well, the persons talent. Tuerck won LB with a freaking Corolla hatch for god sakes. Who would expect that to be a winning car? There are so many variables to this discussion that it’s hard to pinpoint one in particular, but Wout builds cars that give the absolute best chance to perform well. You wouldn’t build a car to compete in FD that doesn’t mechanically make sense. Grassroots drifting is completely different than FD. A shit box can shred like no other but usually, like I said, that’s the persons talent.

It would be interesting to hear Wout and Denofa discuss car setup.

Dang I could listen to this man talk for hours, thanks for introducing me to his channel! As an engineer myself, I definitely related to a lot of the philosophies that he's preaching. One comment for Aaron, might want to consider being conscious about letting people finish their points, I've noticed it in the past, but in this topic where you clearly disagreed / were trying to contest his points, it was extremely obnoxious where you'd be cutting in whilst he was talking. Drive me nuts when people do that to me haha. Awesome content anyway. Keep it up!

Aaron always plays devils advocate while Wout is so serious about car setup lol. But in all honesty these two have some of the best drift conversations on youtube.

In racing getting the last 100th of a second rally matters but for drifting allot of things come down to personal preference imo

I think one of the reasons why there isn't a "meta" build in drifting is because it's a judged sport, unlike road racing where it is much easier to identify what works and what doesn't, so I don't think it will reach the bottom of the funnel any time soon. IMO teams that come up with the best synergy between resources, crew, car, and driver would be the most competitive.

Aaron! Stop interrupting the people you’re interviewing!

Lmfao!! I love Duarte waking in on the interview! So great! 😂

Just an fyi I love watching and listening to you 2 talk and it never gets boarding! If one of you doesn’t like what you hear you don’t let it pass you by and it’s awesome!

Man Wout is so right about his point a view. Totally right if FD was like a FIA organization nobody would care. I LIVE for obscure car and setups that do good. Feels like this sport is still obtainable. But nobody dreams of being Lewis Hamilton but I definitely want to SHREDD like Chelsea!!!!

the interview ive been waiting for! always a banger!

Even with the example of James Deane, he moved weight from the rear of his euro fighter forward to get closer to 50/50 weight distribution. Previous i believe it was 52% rear.

I can listen for hours to the 2 of you! 🤣😅💥👊🏼😎

Love when these two guys chat

Also I think the way Aaron interviews and ask questions comes off a little offensive to those that don't know his personality. He seems like he's arguing when he's just genuinely asking questions

Love listening to Wout talking about drifting

Whats hilarious is a Sikky commercial played right before this video. 🤣 if you know you know.

Drifting has lots of competitive platforms and parts. I think what's dictating winners is drivers that understand physically why their car moves how it does, and teams that know how to keep a car on track.

It's like me and my bmx bike. I can get a cookie cutter bike and still do the same tricks and all I do now but having a custom setup and getting a half degree different headtube angle or whatever make it feel more comfortable to ride. Sure in drifting people are great drivers with terrible setups but if you're building from a bare chassis it would be more beneficial to be mindful of weight balance and all to squeeze ever little bit out of it to make it competitive. It might only make a slight difference but that could mean a lit when your at the limits.

Loved doing this interview

Greetings from Southwest Texas once again great interview this content is always interesting because you don't know what is going to be talked about and it's good when you can find the topic that the people are so passionate about and can back up what they're talking about thank you once again Aaron for putting this content out

I really love the way you preach Aaron about drifting and builidng a car, but holy shit you were annonying and Wout said that when he said you're just cherry picking the examples. I guess you were trying to keep this interesting but I would have lost my shit hahahahahahahhaha.

I love the swollen heads in the cover clip!

Very good subject, thanks for the content Aaron.

Love the interview. I understand where Aaron's coming from (in wanting to get a word in before he forgets), and I appreciate Wout is going to say what he wants. The end. Love it.

Aron you gotta think of weight distribution in 3D, not just front and back. For example iron/alum heads will make more of a difference than iron/alum block with weight transfer(also pushrod vs over head cam). Drift is more like drag car setup than road racing in my opinion. What he is saying is that drifting is such a wide range/field, the best/winner is one who can adapt fastest. There is not always a clear mechanical advantage winner like in most other Motorsports. Also lets be real drifting is more like figure skating since it's a judged sport.

I love this type of videos ❤️

This is a bit frustrating to watch. Up until minutes 9 you guys are talking about 2 different things. Top level Competitions car vs drift week cars.... i don't think anyone is clocking lap times on drift week while say in FD they do and it seems like where the smaller details matter the most is at the top level of Competition.

I like this guy he's real

Good stuff right here need more

If every fd team was unlimited budget and unrestricted in what parts could be used thats when you will see that funnel get smaller as to what the perfect setup combo is. As was said, we aren't there yet.

Aaron let him speak! We want to discuss these issues!

To add to their discussions on Formula D dominations. If you look at the FD season champions in the last 10years... you'd notice it's not just the drivers winning the championships but they're backed by manufacturer support and a powerhouse of a team. W/ the exception of Essa, who i'm not too familiar with about his championship season.

My understanding is that Tuerck’s Corolla is basically an E46 suspension design

Haha, I love it when couples banter back and forth over drift set ups.

Duarte with the appearance!

I agree with you, so much effort is funneled into solving non issues, maybe a bit of copium.

I will always stand by the setup aspect of drifting I’ll argue with ppl Bc they have a v8 and can just roast tires, I have to setup I have a low hp i6 I have to really setup the car tire pressure weight reduction etc just to get as much as I can, I’m still new tho still learning

So take the pro drifter and let him run both set ups and you will see the difference, it might be small, but it might win.

My impression is that tire rules let engines be competitive. If you could run more and more tire to match your 1200, 1300hp engine, then the big displacement cars would be able to run away.

Well and that's the thing is every track is different and every driver is different and I get building a car for yourself as far as you feeling the car and responding to it.there is so many factors to every event maybe even every lap.

I love these interviews ✝

Everyone comes from their specific background and what they are comfortable with, chassis and power train wise. Long story short. Driver skill/experience/background and comfort in a certain chassis dominates all across the board. Doesn’t matter if it makes sense and is scalable for everyone it works for that individual/ team. The same reason why when people change a current chassis to a “better” chassis they almost never surpass the performance outcome of the previous chassis

Aaron I love you mate but your opinions clouded you in this interview. Can an OK chassis and driveline be competitive? Sure, depending on the driver. Can an OK driver be MORE competitive in a well thought out and setup car? Maybe. Could a great driver drive better in a well built car? Absolutely. Can an average driver win FD in a cobbled together car because they want to upset Chelsea with an SR in a Chrysler 300C? Chances are low. If you're building a car for Pro 1 FD are you trying to build to the highest standard you can or just make it work? When there's so much on the line do you try to mitigate risk or introduce it? Do these teams with tire sponsors care about a lighter rear for tire wear or do they want more weight to get bulk grip to pull on you mid-corner? Apples and oranges...

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I think a car with good weight distribution definetly helps, but if u got the money to override that with power then ig anything is possible

wout is the man. when we gonna get the 6hour wout convo?

My XJ buggy makes zero sense on paper if you're using conventional wisdom. It's a big handful on track too. But the few people I've let drive it have confirmed it's an absolute riot to drive, even if it's different and difficult. I still say technique and driver skill is way more important than chassis dynamics.

Didn’t Vaughn win in 2020?

Wout is the man!

Wout is the man

It’s was a really good listen Get onto talking again and going deeper into the can of worms 🐛

RB Army here!

James DID get beat by Forrest for sure.

@drift jesus, how’s your friend from New York doing? The f80 m3 guy

I’ve been in a perfect simulation playing games while you’ll did it in real life it’s the EXACT same way in the game accept we have a “perfect” simulation with no limitations. On the none “suspension engineering side”. Also the Chelsea statement it’s true, but it’s also the “standard by the book” setup with 30% wants Vs needs. I’ve made setups for drivers on the more extreme side than James Deane with a Taylor hull/Vaughn style even. Perfect weight distribution for a drift car Is actually between 51-53 percent front bias not rearward unless track get smaller again or less power. Also the chassis difference HAS BEEEN BEEEN happened you can’t even add a 4 link Japanese style straight axle setup to a AE86 or the reason a Miata NC is not competitive on top of the need for a Minimum weight vs tires size in formula drift it’s trash which is why there’s no skill gap either. The formula drift rule book caters to newer longer wheels based cars with more weight because if the tire rules too. Not to mention the drag slicks engineered specifically to drift like Daigo on Achilles 123s XD

It's pretty simple that most people can learn to drive AROUND an imperfect setup. If you're doing a clean chassis build, and have the budget, why not make it perfect?

Well of course there isnt a best dominating chassis/engine combo in FD. It all depends on driving skill. A V8 mustang/ Corvette or 2J s chassis means nothing if you can't get deep into those outside zones or keep up with your competitors, or worse break your car lol

Says James Dean will destroy with a RTR 10 months ago and now he is in a RTR

Damn, from one Aarón with Add to another Aarón with Add, let the man finish lol.

Arrrr yes it's everything

Weight distribution is definitely important in a 1000+whp FD car. It's not important in a 220whp E36.

Who's the "brian" he is talking about?

Vaughn got the 2020 season

I feel like old mate totally missed Aaron's whole point about the interview but was interesting none the less haha

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I love the content that is made available, but the amount of interruptions by Aaron were off the charts here. I need to use the word annoying. Sadly.

Bobble heads make me think the video is geared toward kids. Not the way to captivate your actual audience... that’s something for jake Paul or some shit.

aaron comes off sooo douche' hahah he comes off so rude but i remember him saying in a prev cideo that he means well.. its just who he is... its just super IN YOUR FACE while trying to watch these videos haha

Lesson taken: become European dentist.

Wout is just better

dirifitng is dumb and silly and id like it to remain that way

Felicidades, es un buen ejemplo. 255 sentadillas son unos PORNTINDER.Uno muchas y un buen ejercicio. Se deja ver que hay muy buenos resultados 😍👍 Saludos desde la Cd.. de world 🌹😉💖 los mortaleso abian apreciado tan hermosa mujer.k

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Nope not for Jesus lol

Lol Aaron doesnt understand the difference between cars and driver

What dose this sound like ur taking pansy pot shots at Luke fink ?

Aaron’s interrupting almost made this unwatchable

Would you please stop interrupting the man. He took the time out for you and we would like to hear him finish his responses. Rude af.

Aaron thinks he’s woke