yes as homophobia is the real sin

Homophobic come whej homosexual exist

@@pastorbri let homosexual don't be ex ist

@@Meliodasthesinofwrath assume english is not your main language?

@@Meliodasthesinofwrath mmm yeah doubt english is your main tounge?

In Leviticus 18 it speaks of sex during menstruation being forbidden. Does that still count as a sin or are we free to ignore that as it does not suit us?

Hello, are you married? My wife's menstrual days are now behind, but while it was going on, she would be down for maybe a day or two and would not have the energy to have intimate relations. Generally speaking, the female body is going through a lot and needs rest & recuperation. It is only an act of love towards her not to approach her during her period. The things outlined in Lv. 18 is God's way of saying "don't hurt yourself or your neighbor, especially your wife." He made it a law for the JEWS as a special blessing so that they could stay healthy and light of all that was going on around them. And also because He knew people had a rebellious nature and needed the rod. What do you think?

You may be right. I have no experience whatsoever with women and their sexual needs. All I know is that fundamentalist hypocrites insist on Leviticus 18 - the Holiness Code - being followed to the letter but are happy to ignore this command. It is inconsistent, David

Thanks for the reply. Can you give me some evidence or proof of fundamentalist's actual hypocritical acts? I don't have the statistics but I would assume many Christian husbands will forgo getting intimate with their wives during their periods.

OK but it is a long list. I suffered badly at a fundie church years ago so I may not be unbiased in this.

I'm learning a lot of things - some useful, and some nt.

@@fornax5798 I love you.

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Show me where homophobia is a sin

@@legionofgod6691 in real life, not in your favorite fairy tail.

but romans was about paul condemning the heterosexuals he saw who used same sex acts in their idolotry cults which was unatural for straight folk, so God gave them over to a reprobate mind.

Deserving death you say. But who is the judge? The humans, the creation, or God, the creator?

@@daviddragan7616 God would be the judge except he never said this to judge on.

@@pastorbri My bad. I read his comment again and got the message. Still, I don't know why he pointed it out if he is not going to expand on his opinion. It can come out as judgemental.

@@daviddragan7616 well thats homophobics for u

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abby pepper to look for the homophobes lol

@@janereinl8740 Where is the fear? Homosexual desires or not, we are all sinners in need of a savior.

SammyT253 But Jesus the savior died from the coronavirus last Thursday, and rose again on Easter Sunday. haha.

@@wickedness_666 which religion are you? And it's not nice to make fun of other religions....

The jews meaning non believing in Christ Jews? You must differentiate between national Israel and spiritual Israel ... but the Israel of God or the true Israel which include converted Jews and converted Gentiles then yes these Jews are the chosen ones who get heaven .

Alex nobody Gay people don’t harm society anymore than you or me

@Delusional Sexy Pants True, but the question is actually about God’s law (don’t engage in homosexual intercourse) and if we submit to it or not. It’s not a statement about contribution/harm to society; to your point, I can harm society as a pharisaical, religious hypocrite no matter what my orientation.

Do you guys not know that the wage of sin is death? And that Jesus Christ came upon the earth to not abolish the Law but to fulfll it? Have you people not read?

Alex nobody, Then that makes you the murderer. Then you just killed somebody because they stole something and you thought other people would get encouraged by him.

Alex nobody, Besides there’s no perfect society and has never been so get your fucking head out of your non existent U-Topia

Scripture does not distinguish categories of laws. The entire mosaic law has been annulled Eph 2.15. "Written code" is not how we obey God Rom 7.6. We obey God by the fruit of the spirit, developing a character that imitates Christ's self-sacrificial love, against which there is no law Gal 5. love satisfies ALL God's commands Rom 13.9. BTW that means that a same-secs relationship characterized by mutual respect, kindness, faithfulness, sincerity and so on is loving, and thus according to scripture obeys God.

So men having sex with men is okay, right?

The Law indeed has some difficult passages which need addressing and so will I do. The Law was presented to the recently taken out of slavery Israelites, whom might I add, were not the greatest of followers or the most faithful (for example in exodus 32:1-6, in which, after Moses left for just a few days, they Immediately turned to worshipping random idols and other gods after seeing the literal Sea being split in half). Had God given a perfect Law, what would they have done? Would they have accepted it and kept it? No, Israel struggled and defiled the Law even when it was shifted to fit to what they could accomplish with their hard hearts, as shown all over the OT, for example in Judges. The reason stoning, such a harsh punishment is employed, is because they had Just gotten out of Egypt, the same society that had the Pharaoh's wife be killed if he ever died and killed slaves, which Israelites were, for the Slightest of things. Had God given them correct punishment, they would not have taken the Law seriously and they would definitely not keep it. The Law is also not perfect, outside of its punishment, when it comes to the actual Law, for example with allowing "slavery" or more accurately debt-paying servitude which that itself isn't great either since until the servant payed his debt, he was as property, even if he was to be treated humanly, as we see with Laws such as exodus 21:26, or verses such as 21:20, though both of them imperfect, because of the hard heartness of Isreal. These things are shown, both from the overall tone of God and the way Israel is portrayed all over the OT but also explicitly stated in Matthew 19:7-8, wherein, Jesus, after being questioned about divorce, points out that the only reason Moses and God allowed for it was because of the stubbornness and hardness in heart of Isreal. That it was not meant to be so morally, for what God has put together in the holy bond of marriage is not to be torn apart by man Unless a good reason is given such as sexual immorality in the marriage (I.e. if the man or woman abuses each other and forcing them to have intercourse, if one cheats on the other etc etc.). It is also shown in Numbers 27:1-11, wherein it is deliberately shown in action, with Isreal essentially demanding a king and though God states that it is not right and that they have disgraced him in this way, he still allows it due to Isreal's stubbornness, so that they can at least follow the Law and God under a human king. The Law was made up of three parts;The 10 commandments (moral Law), the ritual law (sacrifices and such for the washing of sin) and the 'government' law. The only perfect part of the Law are indeed the 10 commandments.

It didn't say "put men who are attracted to men to death", it said "put men who lie with a male a womanly bed to death". We don't have that concept anymore so people think it's about homxoesuality. Regardless of what Leviticus actually meant (it's disputed), we no longer follow it Eph 2.15, it's not how we obey God Rom 7.6, and risks angering God to impose it Acts 15.10.

thats homophobics stuffed then

@@wickedness_666 thats the homophobic lifestyle for ya sadly

pastor brian How the fuck is it sad for me? I’m not a homophobic person. I fucking hate homophobic people who talk shit about gay people. I am for homosexuality. Go back and reread my previous reply. We’re you fucking pay attention? Fuck no. You need to pay more goddamn attention next time. Again, I’m not a homophobic cunt. So yeah bro, you must’ve not paid attention. Get your head outa your ass, and fucking focus goddamn it.

@@wickedness_666 I assume reading is not ur strong point as I was agreeing with u....maybe go back to school and learn to read mate?

pastor brian Reading is my strongest point, fucking idiot. What the fuck do you mean? Haha. Sometimes, I wonder if you can’t read correctly cause you’re too much of a dumbfounded dip shit that can’t process, and absorb the shit you read, especially my replies. Haha. Go back to school yourself, and learn reading all over again if you’re too fucked up in the brain to read correctly, and can’t absorb shit.

Dark Blue Christianity is a cult religion. Do not follow it. Religion is screwed up entirely. It’s nothing but worshipping a god whose a terrorist, and whose a danger to America. And other countries. Jesus Christ is a terrorist! Don’t follow his words. His words are poison to the mind.

Just a question: do you believe in god out of fear? Do you only believe in god because you're like a scared child that fears life on Earth and fears you're going to a lake of fire? Do you believe in god because you want something,out of interest?

Bernardo Carneiro No. I don’t believe in god out of fear. If so, then your god would be one of the most mass murderers of world history. Your God is a part of a terrorist extremist group, such as Isis. In fact, your god died last year. He was Abu Baker Al-Baghdad’s I. The leader of Isis. If you support, Isis, you better stop supporting them. They are not a good group whatsoever. They’re one of the most cruel, evil, and demonic terrorist extremist groups of all time. Do not support terrorism. Stay the hell away from it. It’s wicked as hell. Terrorism is not allowed in the U.S.

@@wickedness_666 Im an atheist brother

@@wickedness_666 to me,Allah or whatever is just as stupid as the christian god or something. The only god-related things im interested in are greek mythology,norse mythology and Indian/Japanese mythology, because it's awesome. But I don't believe in any god whatsoever

Its interesting how you perverting the verse? In Jewish laws there should be witnesses 2 or 3 and woman who was caught in fornication must be judget with the man! But for judgment they bring only woman alone, which is lawlessness. Yes God is merciful but when we dont repent and show tolerance toward homosexuality , that time wait how judgment can start from you not from homosexuals. Might be they are blinded but you can see but not saying that they are on the way of destruction. But wait western christianity says we must be tolerant to gay people. To whom you serving to God or to human

He doesn’t like sinners and if love is involved with the Noah’s story and Sodom and Gomorrah then that’s the variation of love I could do without! Ps For shit and giggles check up the story of Sodom and it has little to nothing to do with lust nor does it have masculine connotations, and another interesting fact from Christian Theists that the ancient Jewish word Yada ( to know ( current Christianity define as to know carnally)which was translated to Greek them into the King James Bible has been used over 900 times and yet only 14 times has that word been used as a sexual connotation including Sofom and Gomorrah

@@svenerikmoeller8809 , he doesn't? For someone to not love everyone John 3:16. He sure does. He's not going to condemn the world John 3:17. He hung around sinners- Jesus, Friend of Sinners:

@@bcg3166 Yeah a friend when they were alive but how about after???! Does Jesus have the power of souls of the departed and does he have the ability to send the souls to either heaven or hell and if so how can any sentient being with morals send someone who is their friend for damnation for all eternity??! Christianity is founded on Judaism which in turn was heavily influenced by Zoroastrianism after the fall of Babylon. Zoroastrianism was the first to introduce Satan vs god and the ancestors of Jews back before the fall of Babylon believed god was married to Ishtar and if you were really really bad you did go to hell to be punished before ascending to heaven!

@@bcg3166 Just want to say this, out of all religions yours is the most mocked yet when it comes to sacrifice and helping others your near the top and that I respect. Practice not preaching

@David Custer stfu homophobe

I believe that the punishment of the law apply but only to true God-led states(only the state of ANCIENT Israel has ever truly followed God),and the only change the messiah brought to the punishments of the law is that if people confess faith in the messiah and repent they get a second chance (as with the example of the adulteress who the messiah saved from stoning by the pharisees),notice how in the example of the adulteress in the end he told her "sin no more",meaning if she had sinned more she should have been rightly punished, that's why I only believe in only a second chance ON THIS SUBJECT on other subjects I believe as the messiah said that we should forgive 77x7 times.

I, on the other hand, heard the most elusive, roundabout, long-winded, vague, answer I have heard in a very long time, forced and stuffed to fit modern sensibilities at the expense of legibility.

@@incomingincoming1133 It's because you haven't read the Bible.

Curt hi it is obvious to two groups of people (a) those who don't think much about what they are reading in the Bible and (b) those who pick and choose verses to suit themselves. It seems that texts on homosexuality are universal yet a prohibition on having sex during menstruation (just three verses away) was only for the people of Israel four thousand years ago. Hypocrisy. The texts on incest still apply but not the ban on lending money at interest. Hypocrisy. The ban on elders having tattoos is upheld but still more verses are ignored. Hypocrisy.

I am trying to understand context, but I am confused when to use it or not. Which teachers have the authority and knowledge to decipher this? What if I don't agree with their authority?

Curt Christiansen You are reading things into the Bible to suit yourself. The whole of Leviticus is about keeping the people of Israel SEPARATE. Most of what it says is specific to time and place. But it seems we have to take some verses strictly yet we can freely ignore adjacent verses. What is obvious there is the hypocrisy - I can see that and that is what is going on. David

Jimmy B. I do appreciate you taking time and trouble to write down an account but I still have questions and some of your points seem wrong to me. Am I right in thinking that the New Covenant started with Jesus' resurrection rather than with his birth. So the Gospels still lie in the Old Covenant, right? I agree with much you say about the fulfilment of the Law. You express that well. I notice that Paul's letters dominate your theology and I would ask that you be wary of that - it's a classic sign of fundamentalism to take Paul literally but take Jesus figuratively. So tattoos are now OK? Many Christians would disagree with you on that. The 10 Commandments - I am sure that you are at Church like me every Sunday - but do you observe that day of the week by doing nothing - no work, no shopping etc. The Sermon on the Mount is largely ignored in Christian Churches as it is felt that Jesus set impossible standards which we have no chance of attaining. I am still unclear - the prohibition of male to male sexual contact - still in force or not? the ban on couples having sex during the woman's menstruation (3 verses away from the above verse) - still in force or not? the ban on lending money at interest - still in force or not? Regards, DAVID

You have posted a lot for me to think on here. You must both think and type fast. Jesus and Paul do teach different things. On wealth and possessions Jesus is far more radical than is Paul. Jesus tells the rich young man to sell all he has and give the money to the poor and he speaks in the Sermon on the Mount about not taking a wage and living by faith 'Do not worry'. In the parable of Dives and Lazarus, the rich man goes to hell for his callous indifference to need; Matthew 25:31-46 makes the same point. Jesus talks about the camel through the eye of a needle and about worshipping riches in Heaven not Earth. He wants us to get as far from materialism as we can. Paul says we should be content whether we are poor or rich and the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. So in 21st century UK and USA we ignore Jesus' teaching on this - he could have saved his breath for all the notice we take of him - and we cling to Paul's teaching saying 'I know I am rich but I am content and I don't love money. Jesus and Paul also differ on homosexuality. Jesus says nothing directly - it does not seem a big issue to him. But Paul sees it as a serious sin and as a major issue. I find Romans 1 very hard to read but there is no denying his anger. The Gospels are a transition stage - very well reasoned. I have learned something profound tonight. The 'ask Pastor John' videos are hit and miss = sometimes wise, other times, well, not so wise! . Bestiality is prohibited only in the OT - no mention of it in the New. Is that OK now? I still don't understand why we follow the Law on male homosexual behaviour, incest, bestiality, loving your neighbour but we don't on tattoos, usury, sex during menstruation, Jubilee social justice etc. It is picking and choosing however you say it. The question is whether the picking and choosing is on consistent Biblical principles or is it just to suit us? I know what my experience is. "Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?" That sounds a bit like the traditional understanding of the Christian life for a homosexual person - lifelong celibacy. It's grim, desperate, depressing, isolating, lonely, tedious, repressive - unbearable or as near to unbearable as you can get. Blessings, David

the reason for the clear warning in any of God s 4 books are for the people to think on how severe the punishment of the hell fire can be if they insist on the big sins so they may dont commit it. you have to accept that act is a sin in the eyes of God so they have to repent. Im only here to read comments on how people are realy good on hiding the truth on the homosexuality matter. you seem to understand this. because we are not judgers the very first rule of God is to obey the laws of the country you live in. but you have to know the sins. but people close their eyes to the warnings.even the things Jesus said from his blessed lips.they love to interpret it to something else. I also came across lot of christian think Jesus died for all of their sins majority of you think that way. But I asked priests if God was so loving and caring why did he destroyed people before us for their sins. the same sins are so normal right now. like homosexuality. loan on interest. sex without mariage. İs God bipolar to destroy people then let people kill his son or prophet to wash the sins of people that are living right now.despite he is the only divine creator a being outside of time the all knowing. I also asked why the first 300 years christianity did not had the consept of trinity. who are the heretics are now the early christians or now. they believed Jesus was messiah and prophet and what about the christians rushed to the arabian peninsula when they heard of last prophet is now has the last testament. they knew it from scriptures. what are the scriptures they are talking about. I ll not trust people interpret words of their savior despite its cleary there for everyone. and not even question the first 300 years of christianity when they were beliving Jesus to be prophet. gospel is hogwash watered down with how God loves everyone. that is not true. he destroyed people before us to know how severe the punishment is and to be sign for the mankind. and you know that.Quran has scientific signs no human kind knew look at how god describes human embryo in quran 6. century man could knew this? the true stories of the prophets look at prophets in quran vs bible, and the antichrist how will he emerge how can we know that this mans is the falsemessiah is thought is islam . I have yet met a christian that knows who is the antichrists is .or how to differentiate him. there are lot issues mate and noone of it is answered because many of the church fathers speculated on something about Jesus s words. then others thought his speculations are Jesus s exact word so now they speculated on top of those speculations. the first 300 years of christianity is same as islam. and there are no room for the change. we will not get a nother prophet. except that Jesus will return some day in time of need to fight the antichrist but that makes large chunk of people heretics who will save them before or after Jesus. Quran 5.116. And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Did you say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah.?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would indeed have known it. You know what is in my heart, You I know not what is in Thine. For You know in full all that is hidden. 5.117. "Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, 'worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up Thou was the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things. 5.118. "If Thou dost punish them, they are Thy servant: If Thou dost forgive them, Thou art the Exalted in power, the Wise." 5.119. Allah will say: "This is a day on which the truthful will profit from their truth: theirs are gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal Home: Allah well-pleased with them, and they with Allah. That is the great salvation, (the fulfilment of all desires). 5.120. To Allah doth belong the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is therein, and it is He Who hath power over all things.

true, homophobobics want to interpret and reinterpret the scriptures to suit their earthly desires.

Well put David. The lord knows we are all weak in the flesh that's why he will always forgive us if we repent .we must examine ourselves daily and tell the lord we are sinners and be truthfull where are hearts are at

You sounded like you were going to hit the nail on the head but you turned at the last minute there. It is actually required for our society to put them to death. If you love your homosexual friends and family enough to spare them, you do not love or understand God enough. It is our duty, not our decision.

Surfer Josh timestamp?

@@Yoshiii99 9:30 He may not have been aware of how that is an issue. But we do need to be distinguished from the nations. We are a peculiar people.

If you study Islam you will notice it does have in common slavery and killing gays just like the Bible but there is no child murder. The prophet Muhammad went as far as saying to treat your slaves like brothers by feeding them clothing them and one of the best deeds a man can do is to free a slave. There are dozens of hadiths that say that freeing slaves is an expiation to sins. The reason why slavery exists is to force hostile populations to live side by side with muslims and see how they act, pray etc. Also an explanation I have found is that some people are slaves as God wants to test them. Abu Dharr (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “They are your brothers whom Allah has put under your authority, so if Allah has put a person’s brother under his authority, let him feed him from what he eats and clothe him from what he wears, and let him not overburden him with work, and if he does overburden him with work, then let him help him.” Narrated by al-Bukhari (6050)

Lmao 🤣🤣🤣 so true

It's not for everyone ,God is not for you

Well if the one who makes the law decides to change it, then the law can change. The law is not the center focus of the Bible, but the maker of the law is. Only Jesus has the authority to redefine the law because he is God and he proves that through his life and work in the fulfillment of prophecies.

@@SteveTheWizard Why can't you understand? If moral truths change overtime, they are not absolute and therefore not objective. If God says: "Stone all the adulterers!" in ancient Israel, and then later Jesus says: "No, let the one who is without sin cast the first stone! (in other words, don't stone her at all)", that is not an objective law. The apologetic of claiming Jesus fulfills the law may work for the sacrificial system, but when God decides to do a full u-turn on quite a few things in the new testament, that simply shows relative morality.

@@redfordwilson5042 How we are commanded to interact with a moral law is not the definition of the moral law. Just because we no longer kill adulterers does not mean adultery is no longer wrong. The morality hasn't changed, simply the punishment for the crime has changed. There always has been an objective moral law that hasn't changed. Even before it was revealed to humanity sin was still sin, but the proper punishment (earthly or heavenly) for those sins has changed as God is the ultimate judge of those things. He can change the punishment without changing the law and still have an unchanging moral law.

Civil laws change. Moral ones don't

Why is no one asking a rabbi about that?

If you attempt to protect your flesh by force you will eventually perish, for he who lives by the sword dies by the sword. Pray the blood of Jesus over your life, ask for His holy fire protection all around you. Then, by Divine Grace, God will deflect any attacks against you before they arrive, and you will be kept safe.

@@Kariegoz and any homophobic that touches me would feel the power of the law.

Exactly. True Christians don't hang their hats on one verse that runs counter to the entire rest of the book.

the bible both old and new testament says to kill homosexuals. 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. see even in the new testament it says it still punishable by death.

God was speaking of the Israelites, only, L. S. _1 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “Say to the Israelites...."_ (Leviticus 20: 1-2)

@David Custer Test everything he says, against scripture. Not your own emotions.

@@joelnenadovich8141 I mean he backs up most of his points with a scriptural occurrence

Is it ever moral to draw the line anywhere for any reason on what is allowed sexually?

You really have to ask that question??? People like you are the reason laws and religion were invented. Try listening to what your conscience tells you. Oh and in case you didn't get that, the answer is NO! It's never been moral to kill anyone, unless in self defence or defending others who's lives are being threatened.

@@matthewcorcoran2891 I am not a Christian so it doesn't matter for me either way. But I find it troubling that a third of the world has sht like this in their holy book and that they are fine with it.

@@alexp8924 I see, well I take it back then. You should phrase your questions better though, in order to avoid ambiguity.

Thou shalt not "murder", which can be thought of as pre meditation, or with malice, or no real reason. There are very few times you can kill someone and still be right with God. Self defense, being the basis for most of those reasons.. and biblical instruction. It is written in the Bible that a man who lays with another man as he does a woman, is an abomination and should be put to death. There is no room for your own interpretation. They must be put to death, we cannot pretend to know more about death than the almighty.

Because Christians want to dictate other people's will. What else is new.

Well essentially, you have to listen to the morals, not the ritual Law, which Jesus ended by being the eternal sacrifice or the government Law. The Law was presented to the recently taken out of slavery Israelites, whom might I add, were not the greatest of followers or the most faithful (for example in exodus 32:1-6, in which, after Moses left for just a few days, they Immediately turned to worshipping random idols and other gods after seeing the literal Sea being split in half). Had God given a perfect Law, what would they have done? Would they have accepted it and kept it? No, Israel struggled and defiled the Law even when it was shifted to fit to what they could accomplish with their hard hearts, as shown all over the OT, for example in Judges. The reason stoning, such a harsh punishment is employed, is because they had Just gotten out of Egypt, the same society that had the Pharaoh's wife be killed if he ever died and killed slaves, which Israelites were, for the Slightest of things. Had God given them correct punishment, they would not have taken the Law seriously and they would definitely not keep it. The Law is also not perfect, outside of its punishment, when it comes to the actual Law, for example with allowing "slavery" or more accurately debt-paying servitude which that itself isn't great either since until the servant payed his debt, he was as property, even if he was to be treated humanly, as we see with Laws such as exodus 21:26, or verses such as 21:20, though both of them imperfect, because of the hard heartness of Isreal. These things are shown, both from the overall tone of God and the way Israel is portrayed all over the OT but also explicitly stated in Matthew 19:7-8, wherein, Jesus, after being questioned about divorce, points out that the only reason Moses and God allowed for it was because of the stubbornness and hardness in heart of Isreal. That it was not meant to be so morally, for what God has put together in the holy bond of marriage is not to be torn apart by man Unless a good reason is given such as sexual immorality in the marriage (I.e. if the man or woman abuses each other and forcing them to have intercourse, if one cheats on the other etc etc.). It is also shown in Numbers 27:1-11, wherein it is deliberately shown in action, with Isreal essentially demanding a king and though God states that it is not right and that they have disgraced him in this way, he still allows it due to Isreal's stubbornness, so that they can at least follow the Law and God under a human king. The Law was made up of three parts;The 10 commandments and general moral instructions (moral Law), the ritual law (sacrifices and such for the washing of sin) and the 'government' law. The only perfect part of the Law is the moral Law.

The New Testament has no demands to put adulterers to death. Jesus actually stopped such an execution saying "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Yes, there are many "failed Christians" out there who don't know what Christianity is, and the media jumps on that.

Actually it said “boy molestors” the fact that the original Greek work was mistranslated to say homosexuals is what has society as it is today.

@@rainbowvibes3151 boy molestors? Lies.

Translation mistake? Maybe U can tell that to jesus. That u heard or someone told u that the translation was wrong. Good luck.

@@kar3n35 not about to argue nor debate with u or anyone else. Nobody told me nothing nor did I hear it🙄it’s called research maybe you should try it. Trust this 1 saying everyone is arguing about is not the only thing that has been mistranslated.

@@sofiabravo1994 if you say so🤷🏽‍♀️

It says to put gays to death in a few places in the bible. Where have you been

Amen, they hate Christ, I know ex homosexuals those are the ones that want Christ the rest rather die in sin rather than to give Christ a handshake, every sinner has a chance given by Christ and they abhor Him, they don't want nothing to do with Christ Jesus

@@Ed-yu3cw , I'm in love with the transgender community. Now, what? I can't wait.

​@@bcg3166well, your choice

Contemporan Poet exactly it does not make sense, but people have to understand that the Bible has been written and re-written hundreds of times into several languages. Historically, the Bible was also compiled years after it was written. The scrolls that make up the Bible were scattered around the world and found in their original language years later, therefore there are bound to be some inconsistencies in the book that gave rise to a whole religion. Personally, I can’t blindly follow whatever the Bible or any religion entirely says because there is no guarantee of everything being God’s word. The Ten Commandments and the Book of David seem to be the texts with most integrity. To be honest, I believe that following the Ten Commandments is probably the best guide to living life. If you take life at it’s core people are bound to make mistakes, but it doesn’t mean that because you do something sinful in life that you becomes bad person forever. I, personally, do not think being queer is a sin and I don’t know whether God thinks of homosexuality as a sin or not only God knows. I do know, however that people suffer tremendously with being queer for many reasons. Furthermore, regardless of who people love, I know that what matters the most is the goodness found within people.

It’s do not murder. Not kill.

It’s do not murder. Not do not kill.

You are wrong. Moses didn't address the "human race", he addressed the Israelites. The human race do not collectively belong to God. He has made that obvious in the bible countless times.

The new death we put them to is the death of the law of sin and death not a physical death that will not last. it is easy to kill someone for us people who are murderers by nature, bit it is much harder to tell them they shall die for eternity if they do not repent. How can we who have escaped judgment judge others? We should be found of God hypocrites. The same one who came to fulfill also said that there was a servant who required the life and slavery of his fellow servant when he should have forgiven and shown grace like his Lord did to him. In the words of Jesus himself, I am come an ensample that ye should do unto one another as I have done unto you and again, do ye likewise.

I am interested. Please explain more.

@@illusiveman1 I would warn you that there is a speech we are not to partake of and a hearing we do not have part with. Take heed that you hear no other doctrine other than the Doctrine of Faith unto Salvation, wherein Christ, by himself,.sanctified us and makes us holy in his own blood. And besides this there is no other necessity for righteousness and holiness. Amen

@Halloechen Studios a god that obviously changes his morals throughout history

@@__-io6pl does he change his morals? Or is it that he's changed the punishment due to the new atonement provided through Christ? If he had change his morals he'd have went from homosexuality is bad to homosexuality is good. It's clearly still bad, however due to the atonement through Jesus the punishment is different

@@josiahlutchman4913 God commanded people to kill people that committed homosexual act, and their blood will be on their own heads. It was a morally good punishment in the past, this is surely an absurd sense of morality for a supposedly loving God that you (probably) believe.

​@@seekerandthinker I think you just underestimate the severity of sin. The wages of sin is death. We all need a savior, the only one being Jesus Christ, or we will all likewise perish.

​@@mama-cita Then explain to me, why is a homosexual act is a sin? Who made that rule? The God you believe so much commanded people that committed homosexual act to be punished by death, as well as a virgin wife stoned to death. Is that an entity worth to be called a loving God? Make it made sense at least

It says to kill homosexuals. But that’s because the Bible was written by homophobic men. Sorry,homosexuality is,natural for those who are homosexuals they didn’t choose to be gay. Just like a straight person just can’t choose to be gay. It’s something they have no control of. When they see another person of their gender they get sexual feelings towards them. And when they see someone of the opposite sex they feel nothing. Homosexuality exist all throughout the animal kingdom for the facts it is natural.

@@rrjkss3992 Where does it exist in the animal world? 😂😂😂

Dimains every where that’s where . There’s gay lions , giraffes, bears, dolphins, etc

@@rrjkss3992 Um, no.

@@rrjkss3992 Dont forget the penguins!~

Wrong perspective

@@JacksTestimony thanks for the helpful comment

Andrew, Piper's basic point is simply that different commands apply differently to people in different contexts. Surely you don't have an objection to that in principle, right? The gist of the video is that the Old Testament applied to the Jews under the Old Covenant and the New Testament applies to Christians under the New Covenant. These are two very different audiences in two very different contexts and that's why you see differences in the commands. Maybe you're right- maybe whatever version of Christianity you've been studying doesn't have anything to say to you. But God has something to say to you. A lot, actually. Please let me know if you need further clarification.

@@ravikeller9626 it’s about time he gave us another “new” covenant then. Surely we are a very different audience, in a different context, to first century Christians. If God has something to say to me I’d be very happy to hear it, but he seems to have been curiously silent for 2 thousand years.

@@andrewsandilands8974 if God spoke you’d already be a Christian…..He wants your faith and you lack that

you are dead already spiritually speaking

It says should be, not WILL be. We SHOULD take shower, but we arent forced to physically.

Jesus also says that throw the first stone at this lady if you haven't sin or something like that

The Bible does tell Christians to put homosexuals to death, and for most of their history Christians happily obliged, often going the extra mile of torturing homosexuals to death.

If we don’t follow the Old Testament then we must forget about the creation story Noah’s flood Moses parting the Red Sea etc. etc as all fraud

Israelite*

I don't get the people who hate people who don't follow their religion/cult the point they think they should be stoned to death

@@guiden1954 I hate KZfaq

No, bigotry literally *can't* be up for consideration.

​@@guiden1954Thanks for not understanding.

God bless u, great comment i needed to hear this

@@antichristobama9127 God bless you as well and please spread these scriptures since these are the ones which most all pastors today WILL NOT show their congregation, and as we know, the congregation is doing less and less of being diligent to read and study the COMPLETE Word of God... they want to first have a belief/desire and then go cherry picking, scripture mining, and manipulating scriptures into backing up their own desires instead of what the complete Word of God teaches

Good points

Thank you for a great message. Greetings from Northern Ireland.

Get the led out: Don’t forget that the one man who holds true over anyone that followed or continues to follow him today was Jesus and he did pursue the sick and the broken. The sinful and the proud. I’m not saying that we should surround ourselves with sinners and be content. But in this world you will face those who are lost, who know not what they do. They need to be aware that we walk by faith and not by sight. The moment you judge another man for his sin, is the moment you will be judged for you’re sin as well-for no man is perfect. We all sin. Therefore love one another as Christ Jesus loves as well as those we desire to persecute.

@Nico Polis Do not believe such kind of stories.

@@e.l.243 God does not care what you think of Him . He is God King Creator . Since our soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq were reading a book called " A Divine Revelation of Hell " by Mary Baxter , l hope you listen to it. . Check to see if it is still on You Tube .

@@e.l.243 By the way , atheos in Greek does not mean no God , it means WITHOUT God . All atheism is based on an emotive response .

They are demons not Jesus showing hell .. Real death and NDE is different... Spirits can trick you

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Underrated comment 🤣

Ask the police and the courts. They are the ones in place to execute criminals. If they don't see homosexuality as a crime now then there is nothing you can do. You don't even understand what a law is. You think they were just vigilante killers running around? It specifically says there must be two or three consistent witnesses to prove a crime and the executions were public after the judge pronounced the sentence, not private killing parties. If the Bible became law, then you would deliver those homosexuals to the judges. But if it was found that you don't have any evidence of their act and you are the only accuser then YOU would yourself be executed as a false accuser in God's law. But you can't even read the whole chapter and compare verses. Any lawyer and judge does that with government law, they don't just take one law and use only that. Laws are understood in relation to other laws. Your little joke just shows how dumb you are.

@@eric-jr2nf You need a hug?

😂😂😂😂😂 Wowzers

Actually, we do get what we deserve. Just not yet. Later, after death

This is dealing with a question of civil administration of justice: Christians who steal or defraud etc. ought still to be punished even in the "age of grace".

Yes if we break the law and get justice we have to go to jail or pay the fine. As we have a justice system here on earth, God is a just God and the wrong must be judged and paid. The problem is that we all have broken the law hundreds of time for which God must judge and condemn us. But God so loves us such that He came down in the person of Jesus, live a righteous life but then paid the pentaly of all our sins upon the cross. If we place our trust and hope in Jesus's goodness on our behalf, then we will not get what we deserve because the fine was paid by Jesus.

Romans 1:32

THATS THE POWER OF THE HOMOPHOBIC LIFESTYLE!

@@jevs1555 no am just christian ta

Let's go motherfucker, put your hands on me and I will show you to your maker. My state has stand you ground laws

Your saying to kill all gay people like Hitler did the jews???

I believe that the punishment of the law apply but only to true God-led states(only the state of ANCIENT Israel has ever truly followed God),and the only change the messiah brought to the punishments of the law is that if people confess faith in the messiah and repent they get a second chance (as with the example of the adulteress who the messiah saved from stoning by the pharisees),notice how in the example of the adulteress in the end he told her "sin no more",meaning if she had sinned more she should have been rightly punished, that's why I only believe in only a second chance ON THIS SUBJECT on other subjects I believe as the messiah said that we should forgive 77x7 times.

@@linin3288 if someone is gay they are gay...thats like you saying someone should repent for being short....the Bible says they should be put to death. Sounds like that's hitlers logic...kill everyone that is a certain way..terrible

Isn’t that why they killed Jesus?

As a Christian, yes.

@Drewstar as contraire; I’m a supporter of LGBTQ+ groups, and in fact, I’m LGBTQ+ myself. And I, too, am a Christian. It’s not my job to judge those kinda people; it’s my job & the jobs of others who give a damn to HELP those groups of people get the acceptance & equality they do deserve, in the same way that I should help the homeless, poor, children, elderly & immigrants (legal ones, mind you).

@@happytortoisee No

No he didn’t did he? All these “loving” “that’s been done away” teachers either hide or apologize for God and his Bible whether it’s Leviticus or Romans 1. No need to apologize these people are supposed to be punished according to Romans 1 by the government Romans 13. (“Terror to evil doers wielding the sword…” anyone anyone Bueller Bueller??)

Rick L - I would happily see trolls banished from youtube. Just be careful you are not equating genuine critical commentators with trolls. David

FILTH? Sis, I took a shower today and am smelling FRESH.

@@suppacoo7268 nah mate you smell fucking disgusting init

Just because you are a christian does not protect your from critiques, mockery, comebacks or any other form of free speech. You have the right to make a statement, the others also have the right to comment your statement. Just because your statement may be right or you believe that it is, that does not make you immune to critiques. Yes, I am a christian also.

David Dragan, I think she meant the commenters purposely provoking people by posting irrelevant and hateful things - aka. trolling. The Bible and Jesus is definitely clear on the fact that Christians will face hate and persecution, so that’s alright :) God bless you, David

They have a transcript here: www.desiringgod.org/interviews/doesnt-the-bible-tell-christians-to-put-homosexuals-to-death There's one for every video in the video description.

No God does not change. When people made animal sacrifices in order to wash away their sins, God looked forward in time to the blood of Jesus. The animals never really did anything they were only an arrow pointing to things to come. The old testimate was imperfect because it was looking forward to Jesus, and since Jesus had not yet come some things were different. The law was given to us to show that we needed a saviour. It was impossible to follow all the commands, and God knew this. He was showing his people that they needed something else. Jesus came and brought the perfect system meaning that many aspects of the old are unneeded. Now we only follow laws that are repeated in the new testament. The jews do not believe Jesus was the messiah therefore they missed the whole point of the law and they still follow old testament commands. Jews are not Christians because they are missing the Christ part.

@@barneyfifem.d8411 I understand the doctrines and dogma of the faith. My questions were more rhetorical.

Well then have a great day

@@barneyfifem.d8411 As a side note to all the religion debates,......I have to say that Barney Fife was one of the best comedy characters of all time. Just a comic genius! After Don Knotts left The Andy Griffith Show,....that show just wasn't all the funny anymore.

@@DRayL_ Exactly. He made the show. He was the reason it was so popular, and the reason I love it so much myself.

I know this is an old comment, but I read Romans this morning and feel like it applies here: One indeed believes to eat all food , but he who is weak eats only vegetables. He that eats, let him not despise him who does not eat, and he that does not eat, let him not judge him who eats, for Elohim received him. Romiyim (Romans) 14:2‭-‬3 TS2009 bible.com/bible/316/rom.14.2-3.TS2009 He who minds the day, minds it to יהוה. And he who does not mind the day, to יהוה he does not mind it. He who eats, eats to יהוה, for he gives Elohim thanks. And he who does not eat, to יהוה he does not eat, and gives Elohim thanks. Romiyim (Romans) 14:6 TS2009 bible.com/bible/316/rom.14.6.TS2009 For the reign of Elohim is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Set-apart Spirit. For he who is serving Messiah in these matters is well-pleasing to Elohim and approved by men. So, then, let us pursue the matters of peace and the matters for building up one another. Do not destroy the work of Elohim for the sake of food. All indeed are clean, but evil to that man who eats so as to cause stumbling. Romiyim (Romans) 14:17‭-‬20 TS2009 bible.com/bible/316/rom.14.17-20.TS2009 Romans 14 overall says (from my understanding) that it depends on yourself, whether certain food is acceptable to you or not. Best wishes and I deeply respect your diet choices. Cheers 👍

@@chessversarius2253 the fact that I've never seen this scripture is proff enough of how terribly weak of a Christian I've been. Only relying on the word presented by leaders

@@josiahlutchman4913 Everyone starts somewhere, so don't be too hard on yourself 👍 Start reading the bible for yourself and soon you won't have to rely solely on a leader. However, having a good pastor is great, so try to get one. Just make sure not to look for the "perfect" one. I'm convinced that everyone got something wrong somewhere, that's why we should talk about our believes. My personal suggestion/ routine for Bible reading: Every morning *20minutes* . Do it before school/ work, not after, because else you'll feel too tired. And when you do it like this, it gives you a feeling of accomplishment early in the morning. I wish you much success 👍 and I'm sure, if you really want to do it, God will make sure you are able to. "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom and the knowledge of the Holy is understanding" -Proverbs 9:10

OK. You do realize that there are no unclean foods anymore? See Acts chapter 10. Bacon is no longer considered unclean.

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"judge not and you shall not be judged" - you haven't read that passage in a while, I take it. Also, "judgement must begin with the house of God"

Jesus is not God

@@nicosiabrown3934 ​ @Nicosia Brown 1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was within God, and the Word was God. John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. May Jesus who IS God; have mercy on you on Judgment Day "Blasphemer!"

You say, "It is impossible for Jesus to be the Son and God too!" Matthew 19:26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. I rest me case. Praise Jesus the God Almighty.

@@MrPatdeeee The NT is bull crap. God never claim Jesus to be His Son and God doesn’t like human sacrifices. Why would He kill Himself? God said come to Him not a middleman,

@@nicosiabrown3934 Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. I thought Isaiah was OT. But then I could be wrong of course... Now YOU "Buster Brown" or "Sister Suzie"; are a Blasphemer if there ever was one. YOU have NOT a clue what is truth. And that is YOUR business. But on "Judgment Day"; YOU are going to rue the day YOU were born; just before Jesus (who IS God); casts you into a "Burning Lake of Fire" (hell) Whether YOU believe it or not. Finally: I have a enough of either your islamic, Judaic or atheist, etc, "Espouses". So IF you are a muslim (and I think you are); YOU will also know that YOUR so-called Qur'an; is a satan-led, Godless LIE. And satan laughs at you and your "ilk; all the way from here to hell. END of story. I shant read your hogwash again. So flay away Buster Brown or Sister Suzie...And many Jesus have mercy on your worthless souls.

It is actually rather simple. God gave us a law, if we broke it we die. If we believe, now rather than back then, in Jesus the Son of God, who once and for all died for us, we will not have to die ever again, but rather inherit eternal life. Simple.

And there is the problem with any religion

@@2ndPigeon that's why am not a part of them

But in Mathew 5: 17 it states “Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.” This means that the law in the Old Testament wasn’t complete and in the New Testament it becomes fulfilled with the will of God and so it never changed but it became fulfilled sorry if this doesn’t help you and I really hope you can become connected in his word

@@ty-zacharybartholomew5481 actually Jesus said he did not come to abolish the law but fulfill it so the cross fulfilled the law so the old law is dead .... is simple.

And it actually did lol 😂

why

You mean follow the words of men who made shit up.

Yikes

Mf what 💀😂

No it wasn't. Be real. You know it wasn't. Don't just say stuff because you think it helps "your side." Don't be a hack.

Can’t speak for everyone.

@Lance Wells indeed some of them we may not even able to blame for their desires but the responsibility of acting on them no doubt is theirs. Still others can and do decide to pursue lifestyles that lead them to desires with which they weren’t born.

@Lance Wells well try it out tmrw and see how that works.

@Lance Wells are you literally fucking saying gays are perverts? Wow, just fucking wow.

@Lance Wells beatiality is the rape of an animal, when was rape seen as ok?

Who are you exposing exactly?

I'm not sure what you mean. Are you claiming a dissonance between the OT and NT or something else? If you aren't relying on Scripture, then how do you know what God talks like?

Wtffff GOD TOLD YOU KILL THEM SO KILL THEM.WITHOUT QUESTIONING

Even more so then these other two, who exactly do you know has heard the voice of God at any time? He has given us his word through others and that so we might recieve it ourselves. Where then did you hear God's voice so you could judge exactly how he sounded? Of softness of voice is the point then surely John Piper is God to you because I have heard no hardness in his speech. If you judge by the appearance you will only appear to be right. Judge righteous judgement and you will be right.

You have missed the part where we start out unholy and by no means of ourselves have been redeemed by God's own Son, who loved us and gave his own life for us. If some other man gave e their life for you, you would thank him, but because it is God you reject him to justify yourself in darkness having seen nothing of your own soul. That which we see we have seen by faith and that not of ourselves it is the gift of God. The same gift I have you can gave if you would recieve that you are wicked and without ability to do or judge rightly unto repentance. But you would not hear me save by the grace of my Father.

Not really, as Chirst said, he came to fulfil the Law not to abolish it. The covenant is done, yes but the moral side of the Law cannot be done away with, objective morality does not change. Well essentially, you have to listen to the morals, not the ritual Law, which Jesus ended by being the eternal sacrifice or the government Law. The Law was presented to the recently taken out of slavery Israelites, whom might I add, were not the greatest of followers or the most faithful (for example in exodus 32:1-6, in which, after Moses left for just a few days, they Immediately turned to worshipping random idols and other gods after seeing the literal Sea being split in half). Had God given a perfect Law, what would they have done? Would they have accepted it and kept it? No, Israel struggled and defiled the Law even when it was shifted to fit to what they could accomplish with their hard hearts, as shown all over the OT, for example in Judges. The reason stoning, such a harsh punishment is employed, is because they had Just gotten out of Egypt, the same society that had the Pharaoh's wife be killed if he ever died and killed slaves, which Israelites were, for the Slightest of things. Had God given them correct punishment, they would not have taken the Law seriously and they would definitely not keep it. The Law is also not perfect, outside of its punishment, when it comes to the actual Law, for example with allowing "slavery" or more accurately debt-paying servitude which that itself isn't great either since until the servant payed his debt, he was as property, even if he was to be treated humanly, as we see with Laws such as exodus 21:26, or verses such as 21:20, though both of them imperfect, because of the hard heartness of Isreal. These things are shown, both from the overall tone of God and the way Israel is portrayed all over the OT but also explicitly stated in Matthew 19:7-8, wherein, Jesus, after being questioned about divorce, points out that the only reason Moses and God allowed for it was because of the stubbornness and hardness in heart of Isreal. That it was not meant to be so morally, for what God has put together in the holy bond of marriage is not to be torn apart by man Unless a good reason is given such as sexual immorality in the marriage (I.e. if the man or woman abuses each other and forcing them to have intercourse, if one cheats on the other etc etc.). It is also shown in Numbers 27:1-11, wherein it is deliberately shown in action, with Isreal essentially demanding a king and though God states that it is not right and that they have disgraced him in this way, he still allows it due to Isreal's stubbornness, so that they can at least follow the Law and God under a human king. The Law was made up of three parts;The 10 commandments and general moral instructions (moral Law), the ritual law (sacrifices and such for the washing of sin) and the 'government' law. The only perfect part of the Law is the moral Law.

@@stmp4160 The "law" (more correctly translated "instruction") is not made up of 3 parts, it is made up of 5, Gen, Ex, Lev, Num, Deut. In any case, the NT says: "we are discharged from the law, dead to that which held us captive, so that we serve not under the old written code but in the new life of the Spirit" "why are you putting God to the test by placing on the neck of the disciples a yoke that neither our ancestors nor we have been able to bear?" "He has annulled the law with its commandments and ordinances"

@@MusicalRaichu Genesis has no moral instructions from what I remember, what you described were the deuteronomical books(books of Moses), not the Law. I was speaking about the contents of the Law, not the books it is in. Also Jesus clearly stated that the Law is not abolished. Paul also made it clear that "just because we are not under Law but under grace does that mean we are free to sin? Of course not!". The moral part of the Law remains because what is moral and just remains as moral and just.

@@stmp4160 There is no "moral part" of the Torah. It's all or nothing (James 2.10). There are plenty of rules in there that we now see as immoral, some so illegal they'll land you in jail. Mosaic law is outdated. Jesus said he did not dissolve the law (Mat 5.17). It still exists and stands as foundational scripture. However, the old covenant with its stipulations has been annulled (Eph 2.15). It is no longer in force. We no longer obey God by following moral rules (Rom 7.6). Rules have limitations (Mat 5.21ff). Doing good and not harm has priority over rules (Mat 12.1-12). Instead we obey God by developing a kind, caring character (Gal 5). Doing good and not harm is sufficient to obey God (Rom 13.8-10, Micah 6.8, Mat 22.40).

@@stmp4160 There's no "moral part", it's all or nothing James 2.10. There's plenty of rules we now see as so immoral they'll land you in jail. It's outdated. Jesus said he did not dissolve the law Mat 5.17. It still exists as foundational scripture. The old covenant with its stipulations has been annulled Eph 2.15, no longer in force. We no longer obey God by following moral rules Rom 7.6. Rules have limitations Mat 5.21ff. Doing good and not harm has priority over rules Mat 12.1-12. We obey by developing a kind, caring character Gal 5. Doing good and not harm is sufficient Rom 13.8-10, Micah 6.8, Mat 22.40.